1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. Now, I want to know what engineer 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: in their right mind mounts something as delicate as a 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: fuse box and fusible links on top of a device 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: that spews acid. The Car Doctor, a check engine light 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: only comes on if the vehicle is exceeding one and 6 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: a half times the federal emissions level. 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, The 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: are open. 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at eight 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: five five five six ninety nine hundred. 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: And now he Ronnie. 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I think the reason cars break in a lot of cases, 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: it's circumstance and situation. Hello and welcome ronin Innie in 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor here at eight five five five six 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero, here to take your call, 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: solve your problems, answer your questions whatever you might have 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: on your mind regarding your automobile, your mechanic, and anything 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: automotive related. There's information about this radio show on our website. 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Cardoctorshow dot com. If you want to, you can download 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: podcasts right from there. I should point out too, by 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: the way, I received a couple of email requests and 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: more than a few conversationals requests about Uncle Steve. 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There's all sorts of ways to 47 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: listen to this radio show that way, but you can 48 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: also go over to iHeart or iTunes and subscribe and 49 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: it will be automatically delivered to your inbox. And I 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: should also point out that if you want to stream 51 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: this radio show you can also you can stream it 52 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: during live show hours Saturday two to four pm Eastern Time, 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: where you can stream it anytime day or night, and 54 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: you can do that right from our website cardoctorshow dot com. 55 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I think cars break because of situation and circumstance. I've 56 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: been thinking about this lately. I had a two thousand 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: and four Nissonic Steric come into the shop at RI 58 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: Automotive this week and it was cut and dry repairs. 59 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: It's not a repair of the week worthy conversation. It's 60 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: not anything like that. The issue with it was it 61 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: had to check engine light on on a P zero 62 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: four to twenty, which is a cat efficiency code, and 63 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: diagnosed it and it's a bad catalytic converter on a 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: two thousand and four Exterra there are two cats, and 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: the one we were concerned with was the one that 66 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: is monitored, or the one that the two sensors worry about, 67 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: is another way of saying it is that the one 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: in the exhaust manifold, so that had to be changed. Well, 69 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: by the time you get done with that, it's a 70 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: it's a catalytic convert. You're gonna use the one from 71 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: the dealer because the ore the ones that are gonna work, 72 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: and a couple of two sensors. You're gonna spend fifteen 73 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: hundred dollars in parts, every bit of five hundred dollars 74 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: in labor because of all the rust and bolts and 75 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: tapping and threading, and it was like building a model. 76 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: And I got done with it, decided I wanted to 77 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: run the monitors, as I usually like to do when 78 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I finished in emissions repair. So I went out to 79 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: run the monitors because I was planning to inspect the 80 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: vehicle and during the course of road testing getting monitors 81 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: to run, it's set a pending fault code in the 82 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: evaporative emission system P zero four to four to two 83 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: small leak. Hmm, look at that, Why is it doing that? 84 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: Then I thought about it. I said, well, let's see, 85 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: it came in on an empty gas tank. It came 86 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: in the yellow warning light was on and the gauge 87 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: was on a because the person doesn't like to put 88 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: fuel in it. And I said, you know, I put 89 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: gas in it because obviously I don't want to get 90 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: stuck on the road. I filled it up halfway and 91 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: I thought, maybe because now the monitor is going to run. 92 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: Because keep in mind, if you're a regular listener, you 93 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: know you've heard me say that evaporative emissions monitors won't 94 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: run on the majority of cars between when it's less 95 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: than a quarter or more than three quarters of a tank. 96 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: It has to be between the three quarter one quarter mark. 97 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: But then I thought about it and I said, no, 98 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: that's not the case. It just had to be the 99 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: situation on how she's driving, where she's driving, and not 100 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: taking the right type of trips to actually allow the 101 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: evapp monitor run. I never got the code to set 102 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: it came up as pending. I did a little research, 103 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: diagnosed it, and the gas tank was bad. The fuel 104 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: tank rusted away around the top where the sending unit sits, 105 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: and it's a really poor design. It really is. If 106 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: you look at it. The way Nissan designed this, the 107 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: area where the fuel tank, where the fuel pump sits 108 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: into the fuel tank, that unit area is recessed, so 109 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: it goes down and it forms a little metal well 110 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: in the top of the tank, which is really great 111 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: when you think about it. You're driving down the road 112 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: at fifty five sixty miles an hour in rain, snow, slush, 113 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: all the water gets up on top of the tank 114 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: and it falls into the well, which is a recess 115 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: and it lays there. So it's a situation and a 116 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: circumstance failure. It's the way the engineer designed it. And 117 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: this is one of those moments where I say, why 118 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: didn't they just make it so that it went the 119 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: other way instead of a you know, going in instead 120 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: of an inny, it was an Audi. It was like 121 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: your belly button. If it was an Audi, all the 122 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: water wouldn't collect there and it wouldn't rust out. But 123 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: maybe Nissan likes selling gas tanks. I understand they had 124 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: recalls for these, but this one fell out of the 125 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: guidelines of it, so it needed a fuel tank. Which 126 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: is a difficult conversation to have because you've just explained 127 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: to the customer that you know, you've got a catalytic 128 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: converter fault. And now they get it now, and they understood, 129 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: and they were They were great about it, they really were. 130 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: They realized that it was just something that was there. 131 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: But that wasn't enough for me. I had to go 132 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: back and dig a little bit. I went back and 133 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: I started reading through their file. About seven months ago, 134 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: the vehicle came in one time for a check engine 135 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: light scanned it P zero four four two small leak. 136 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: Now you're faced with an issue here as a mechanic. 137 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: The gas tank at that time, the fuel cap, I'm sorry, 138 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: the gas cap at that time wasn't on properly. It 139 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: didn't seat right, So I screwed the cap on right. 140 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: They had just purchased guests. They had put guests in 141 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: it that day. Do I recommend to diagnosis? Do I 142 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: go through one hundred and fifty six dollars chart to 143 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: smoke a system and go through the usual suspects and 144 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: look for an EVAP leak that may not be there. 145 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: Do I allow the vehicle to go back out and 146 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: be driven and if it is at fault, if they're 147 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: driving under normal conditions, normal circumstance that light'll come back on. 148 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: I opted for that because I thought it would help 149 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: save them money. You know, that vehicle ran from early 150 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: April through October with no repeat, no failure, no repetitive 151 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: check engine light until it set the cat fault. And 152 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: then after the cat fault, the conditions were right, it 153 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: finally ran the EVAP monitor And wouldn't you know what happened? 154 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: When I was driving it and it started to tell 155 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: me upending four four to two and it came up again. 156 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes it really is all about circumstance and situations. And 157 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: when you look at it, if that engineer had only 158 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: made it an OUTI instead of an INNY, that Nissan 159 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: repair sure would have gone a whole lot smoother. Something 160 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: to think about. Well, and welcome Ronie in the car 161 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: doctor here eight five five five six zero nine nine 162 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: zero zero. Some weeks at the shop, you just say 163 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: to yourself, how did I get into this situation? I 164 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: started out wanting to work on cars, and now it 165 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: just it's just snowballs downhill. And that's part of what 166 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: a repair it goes at the territory. It's like my 167 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: friend Tim says, you know, you know, getting bruised is 168 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: part of the job. Getting hit in the head is 169 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: part of the job. Having an additional problem is part 170 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: of the job. Chicks dig scars, band aids and bruises, 171 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: and Tim's always right, and uh usually says the part 172 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: about getting hit in the head after working with me, 173 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: And that's a story for another day. I'll tell you 174 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: that story someday. But right now, let's pull over. Let's 175 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: take a pause. Eight five five five six zero nine 176 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Running in in the car doctor. We'll 177 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: be back to open the garage doors right after this. 178 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back, ron Ni and the car doctor. By the way, 179 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: stick around because down around the bottom of the hour, 180 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to the folks from Powerframe Batteries, 181 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: talking a little bit about some of the expected battery technology, 182 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: well not the expected, but battery technology as it's improved 183 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: over time. We're gonna talk about powerframe grid technology, but 184 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: also a little bit of common sense on picking a 185 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: battery for this coming winter as as we go forward 186 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: and it is getting colder out. So I was looking 187 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: at Big Tony when he came in today from the train, 188 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: and Tony was wearing his hat as glotches his overcoat 189 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: a scarf. I almost didn't recognize him except for the 190 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: fact that he had the Giants beanie on and he 191 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: was like, oh, pro the Giants finally won a game. 192 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Way to go down. Okay, let's get over and talk 193 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: to Greg Greenwich, New York, twenty eleven Subaru and some 194 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: issues with noise. Greg, Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir. 195 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: You're on at eight five five five six zero nine 196 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. 197 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: How can I help? 198 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, good show and long time listener. 199 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. 200 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 4: I have the eleven Forrester. I've got issues when I 201 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: bought it at around nine thousand miles, but not really issues. 202 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 4: We just don't startup on a cold morning or any 203 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: morning after it sits all night. It has a good noise, 204 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: almost like it's dry. It's not getting any oil pressure. 205 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 4: And my neighbor of mine did a all data scan 206 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: and he says, oh, yeah, that's coming up as the 207 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 4: left hand tensioner needs to be changed out, something to 208 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 4: do with it's not getting lubricated right, which is great. 209 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 4: But I said, I brought it over to anything Vermont, 210 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,359 Speaker 4: subru and Glens Falls and in Saratoga, all three dealerships 211 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: all that's fine, that's normal. And I'm worried about having 212 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 4: this motor die on me and we get ruined. 213 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: You know. 214 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 215 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this, Greg, when when 216 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: you look at this or when they when they look 217 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: at this and you talk to them, do you bring 218 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: up the bulletin do you have convert because you're right, 219 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: there's there's actually two bulletins. There's there's one that talks 220 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: about and it's bulletin number. You got a pencil handy, 221 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: Let me ask you that real quick. 222 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: Actually I don't okay, I don't. 223 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: Trying grab one while we're talking. But if you get 224 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the bulletin, oh two dish one seventeen dish eleven R. 225 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: And if you download the podcast of this radio show 226 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: from cardoctorshow dot com, if you go to uh twenty 227 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: after in the second hour, you can hear me give 228 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: that number again. It's O two dish one seventeen dish 229 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: eleven R. There's issues with the pivot and the rocker 230 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: arm that are creating noise, isn't it. Yeah, it's non detrimental, 231 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: as the bulletin says, as I recall, but it is 232 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of unsettling and it doesn't sound right. It sounds 233 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: like a rattley clanky, old pile of bolts, and I 234 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: can't imagine why anybody would want their engines to sound 235 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: like that so that you can go back in the 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: next year and say, hey, I want to buy another superrow. 237 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: I enjoy listening to the noise. So that's one bulletin. 238 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: The other bulletin is ten dish oh, seven dish eleven. 239 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: That's more common, and that's the one that deals with 240 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: the timing chain tensioner. That one also says this is 241 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: non detrimental, which really boggles my mind. They've come out 242 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: with two bulletins that say, hey, it's not a problem, 243 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: but just in case you want to spend money and 244 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: fix it, here's the repair. Uh you know it. To me, 245 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: it's a mark on the company. It's what Subaru is 246 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: become in recent times that they've lost some of their 247 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: edge for trying to make people happy. And I realized 248 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: there's a ton of just loyal Subaru owners out there 249 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: that just kind of follow them along. But you know what, 250 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: it's time to wake up and stop drinking the kool aid, 251 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: because to me, this is something they should repair. It's 252 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: it's it's an obnoxious noise, right, Greg, I mean it 253 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: bothers you exactly. 254 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: I mean, other than the startup and then it gets 255 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: oil pressure, it's fine, as quiet as a mouse. Other 256 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: than that, it works, rate, drives good. Other than you know, 257 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 4: when you don't put stut of snows on it like 258 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 4: I found out, I would. 259 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: I would find an independent Subaru tech you know, there 260 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: are guys out there that just specialize in Subaru, you know, 261 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: or even a good quality independent shop that can deal 262 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: with this particular repair that's got whatever tools they might 263 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: need and scan tools, support and so forth, and just 264 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: let them fix it, pay somebody to fix it, and 265 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: move on. Because what Suberu doesn't realize what any whatevery 266 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: manufacturer doesn't realize. You like this car, don't you, Greg? 267 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: Yes? I do? 268 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: But this noise is bothersome And this noise puts you 269 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: one brick away from going what am I driving this 270 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: thing for? If anything else goes wrong with it? Because 271 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind, subconsciously you're thinking, maybe 272 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: this isn't such a great car. And now if something happens, 273 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: if the engine were to fail and it was somehow 274 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: related to all this, you'd be over the edge and 275 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: that's bad and it would prevent you from buying another one. 276 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: Car companies need to wake up and realize that the 277 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: buying experience doesn't stop when the warranty expires. 278 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: All right, sir, thank you very much. 279 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Good luck to you. Let me know 280 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: if I can do anything else. Yeah, that's I mean, 281 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: it's crazy. They just, you know, well, warranties up. That's it. 282 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: Paul us back when you want to write another check, though, 283 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: we'll be let to try and take care of you. 284 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 285 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to Stanley Ridge with New 286 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: Jersey ninety three Cadillac Fleetwood and some exhaust noises. Stanley, 287 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: you're on with the car doctor, sir. How can I 288 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: help you at eight five five five six zero zero zero. 289 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I have a ninety three Caddy which very much. 290 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 5: I've had it since it was brand new, and in 291 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 5: the last few months I've heard and smelled exosk and 292 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 5: I brought it up to a place where I respect 293 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 5: his work. I've been there before and he's made several 294 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 5: unsuccessful tries to get the leak to stop it. Apparently 295 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 5: a way upfront in the car okay, And he's made 296 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: several attempts and I had each time bring it back 297 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 5: because was still hearing a slight roar from the front. 298 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 5: And also we're smelling it, and I think he's at 299 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: the end and doesn't know what to do. 300 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: All right, let me ask you, Stanley, is this front 301 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: wheel or rear wheel drive? 302 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 5: It's real wheel. 303 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: This is real wheel. So this is the Is this 304 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: a five Leader or is this the Is this one 305 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: of the hteam motors? Which engine is in this? 306 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 5: It's probably the former. 307 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: The former the five Leader? Yes, right, yeah, ninety three. 308 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to rob back to ninety three. This is 309 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: a three H seven old motor. This is the Y motor, 310 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: and it's probably a leak at the manifold where the 311 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: manifold comes together. Is he having issues with getting access 312 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: to things because bolts are rustying in the way or 313 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: is it a matter of parts or is it a 314 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: matter of is he on a budget? Are you just 315 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: saying to him, hey fix my car, I don't care 316 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: what it. 317 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 5: Costs, or hey fix my car, And yes, it doesn't 318 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 5: matter what it costs. Do whatever has to be done 319 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 5: to get it fixed. Okay, I like the car and 320 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: I enjoy driving the car, and yes, so, but he 321 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 5: he has mentioned that it's a manifold problem, right, And 322 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 5: I'm going to guess that what you analyze is probably correct, right, 323 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 5: is it? 324 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it that he can't get parts for it? 325 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: I wonder I. 326 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 5: Haven't I haven't heard that. 327 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: How long you've been going to this guy? Sounds like 328 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: you got a relationship with him. Correct, Yeah, it's time 329 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: for that cup of coffee conversation. 330 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 4: You know. 331 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: You know, if you're a regular listener, you've heard me 332 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: say that it's time to go in, and you know, say, listen, 333 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: I've been coming here a while. I realize it's a 334 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: tough problem sometimes, and I'll fall into this trap myself. 335 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: You know, as mechanics, we're still human beings. We fall 336 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: into the trap of it's an old car, he doesn't 337 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: want to spend any money. Sometimes a mechanic needs to 338 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: be taken by the hand and look straight in the eye. 339 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: And you do this with somebody who got the relationship 340 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: with you know what, it's a. 341 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 5: Little more complicated than that, because unfortunately the man who 342 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: used to work on my car all the time passed away. Okay, 343 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 5: but it seems that finding another person in the shop 344 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: who's familiar with this and knows what to do. I 345 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 5: think may be part of the problem. 346 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Well, and then in that case it sounds like this 347 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: may not be the shop anymore. I can't. You know 348 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: what boggles my mind if the shop does that kind 349 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: of work and you walk in and say, listen, I'm 350 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: not opposed to spending money on this. Tell me what 351 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: it's going to take to do, and they say we 352 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: can't fix it. It's not worth fixing. First of all, 353 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: it's it's not worth fixing, is not their judgment unless 354 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: the car is there's extenuating circumstances, there's other things amiss, 355 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: there are other issues. If you're willing to pay the 356 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: freight and the car you know not I'm not going 357 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: to say justifies, but it's in good enough condition that 358 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: other things aren't going to break as a result of 359 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: trying to fix the first thing. I mean, it's a 360 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: matter of fix it. I don't see what the big 361 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: deal is. I'd have it, like I said, I'd have 362 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, conversation with the owner and say, listen, 363 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: before I take it in my business somewhere else, what's 364 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: it going to take to get this done. I don't 365 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: want to leave here. You'd be ten minutes and I'm 366 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: not looking And I'm not looking for that, Stanley, I'm 367 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: really not. I'm trying to get this guy to look 368 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: at it. I'm trying to maintain your relationship with him. 369 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: I've never, in all my years on radio, you know, 370 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: really tried to do that. And don't think anything different. 371 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: But I would just have a real candid conversation with 372 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: him and just explain, you know what, do you want 373 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: to work on this or don't you what's the issue now? 374 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: If the engine has to come out of the car 375 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to do that, he's got to 376 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: tell you that not a lot of shops pull engines anymore, 377 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: and that could be part of the problem too. It 378 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: could be that the bolts are stuck in the exhaust 379 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: manifold and they're not going to come out and they 380 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: have to be drilled out of the heads, and then 381 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: that becomes an issue. But there's got to be a logical, 382 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: clear cut decision here as to why it can't get fixed, 383 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: the spending money to go nowhere. That makes about as 384 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: much sense as the government sometimes, Stanley. Good luck Tia 385 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: in if you need more help, you know where to 386 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: find us. Eight five to five five six zero nine 387 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: nine zero zero questions about batteries. Batteries one on one 388 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: coming up next. I'm running aiding in the car doctor. 389 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere. 390 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, listeners, welcome back. We're on any in the 391 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: car doctor. You know, this time of year, everybody's thinking. 392 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: With fall here and winter approaching, it's battery time. It's 393 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: time to look the car over, the truck over and 394 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: make sure it's ready for winter and the cold weather ahead. 395 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: And we thought to bring out some of the finer 396 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: points and some of the optimal things you need to 397 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: know regarding your vehicle's battery. We've turned to the best, 398 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: Michael Wholesome. Michael is the manager of field sales for 399 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: Power Solutions, and we're glad to have them here with 400 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: us today. Michael, Welcome aboard, sir. 401 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 6: Thanks ver, I appreciate you having me on batteries. 402 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: You know, let's get this out in the open. There's 403 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: two questions I want to ask you right at the 404 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: top of my head. Are batteries really a full winter 405 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: concern or is it more of a year round event? 406 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 6: Now it really has become a year round event. And 407 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 6: if you look at how cars have developed over the 408 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 6: last ten years, becoming more electrical demanding. We have more 409 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 6: sophisticated you know, computer management systems, we have more accessory 410 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 6: loads on cars, and we have i've ever had before. 411 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 6: So all that demand has has put more and more 412 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 6: stress on the battery. 413 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: So you know, when we look at a battery and 414 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: we think what makes a battery tick, for lack of 415 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: a better word to put it, it's the grid, right, 416 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: So why is the grid in the battery? So gosh 417 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: darn important. I think the listeners need to hear this again. 418 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 6: Well, in particular the positive grid. And you know, if 419 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 6: you think of it, that's really the backbone of a battery. 420 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 6: You know, that's where you're you know, the positive grid 421 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 6: is the delivery system for electrical energy, but it's also 422 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 6: extremely essential for the recovery of the battery after it discharges. 423 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 6: So a good design and a good manufacturing process is 424 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 6: going to you know, make that battery better. So the 425 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 6: positive grid gets compromised by corrosion, and you know, that's 426 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 6: one of the leading causes of battery failure. And corrosion 427 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 6: comes from a couple of different sources. It comes from 428 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: repetitive cycling. We talked about the high electrical demanding platforms, 429 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 6: so that battery constantly going in a discharge recharge cycle, 430 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 6: and then you have heat heats a catalyst and it 431 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 6: accelerates the corrosion process and heat comes again from the 432 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 6: charging cycle, but it also you can take into account 433 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 6: the ambient temperature that's under the hood. So powerframe technology 434 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 6: is designed to address these stress points and it gives 435 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 6: you up to sixty six percent more corrosion resistant than 436 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 6: other grid designs. 437 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: Now, two questions. How long has powerframe grid technology been 438 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: available in consumer batteries? And the second part of that 439 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: question is I used to think, and I'm learning to 440 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: say that a lot in my career, I used to 441 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: think that the way to do things were this and 442 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: that when when you purchase a battery by the biggest 443 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: battery electrically you can find. Is that still a true statement? Also, 444 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: you can answer me in either order. 445 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 6: Well, I'll answer your first question, and it was, you know, 446 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 6: powerframe has actually been around for over fifteen years and 447 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 6: it was developed through field testing using taxicab fleets in 448 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 6: Las Vegas, which you can imagine as some of the 449 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 6: Harse's harshest driving conditions and it accelerated. You know, the 450 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 6: real life of the life of a battery. But yeah, 451 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 6: you know, you know the days of picking a battery 452 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 6: by cold cranking amps. If you think about, you know, 453 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 6: back twenty thirty years ago when we actually had a 454 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 6: crank a car and you would you know, the ignition 455 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 6: had to work for ten to fifteen seconds before the 456 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 6: car would start. Now, ignition systems are so efficient that 457 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 6: it's it's a flick of the wrist or a push 458 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 6: of the button and there's not as much demand on 459 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 6: the starting. But now it has to do with how 460 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 6: well that battery laughs in these repetitive cycling applications. 461 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: Sure, I mean, look at start stop technology now, right 462 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: the car starts in the blink of an eye sitting 463 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: in a traffic light or stops on and that the 464 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: battery has no real load on it compared to something 465 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: thirty years ago because of the way the vehicles are today. 466 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, that makes perfect sense. So vibration is still 467 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: an issue though, right, I mean, let's talk about that 468 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: the effects vibration has on a battery. Does how does 469 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: or does powerframe grid technology help prevent the bad part 470 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: of vibration, bad vibrations the beach blazer. 471 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 6: Well, you know, you know, we can, you know, equate 472 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 6: vibration to hitting potholes and I'm sure we've all hit 473 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 6: our share of those while we're driving, and that impact 474 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 6: will have a detrimental effect on the battery, and one 475 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 6: that some of the active material we call taste on 476 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 6: the grid will shed off, and enough of that will 477 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 6: impact the capacity and the life of the battery. But 478 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 6: also when we talked earlier about the corrosion of the 479 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: grids and what that corrosion does, it weakens the structure 480 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 6: and vibration can then fracture some of these areas of 481 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 6: the grid that show signs of fatigue, and if that happens, 482 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 6: that can lead to short circuits in the battery, and 483 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 6: it also diminishes the capacity of the battery. So the 484 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 6: manufacturing process of powerframe is basically taking a bar of lead, 485 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 6: rolling and compressing that lead composite to precise thickness and 486 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 6: in that density of that material, then will you resist 487 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 6: corrosion and metal fatigue. But also you know where the 488 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 6: powerframe comes from, and it has a reinforced frame around 489 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 6: the grid itself, and that protects the frame from warping, 490 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 6: and that also leads to short circuits. 491 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: So basically, paraframe grid technology is that better mouse trap 492 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: that everybody's looking for. 493 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 494 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 495 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this something we don't talk 496 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: about a lot here on the Car doctor. Power frame manufacturing, 497 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: the way they make powerframe grid technology, if I can 498 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: say it that way, but power frame manufacturing plants I understand, 499 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: operate and produce fewer greenhouse gases. 500 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 6: That's correct. So if you look at the you know, 501 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 6: the conventional way of making grids was casting, so that 502 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 6: grid casting required to melt lead down and pour the 503 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 6: molten lead into molds. Well, that process of melting lead 504 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 6: contributes to releasing of gases into the environment. So when 505 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 6: I talked earlier about the power frame rolling out lead 506 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 6: into a strip and then it gets stamped, and all 507 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 6: that material that gets punched out is then recycled, so 508 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 6: there's no gases that are coming from melting down the lead, 509 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 6: and all the waste is recycled, so it it eliminates 510 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 6: twenty percent of greenhouse gases during the manufacturing process. 511 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: Wow, sounds like a win win on all sides between 512 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: the technology and the way they're made. It's good for 513 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: the environment, it's good for the vehicle, and it's good 514 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: for the consumer. You can't complain about that. How do 515 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: the consumers determine what has power frame good technology and 516 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: doesn't what brand aftermarket batteries use it? 517 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 4: Well? 518 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 6: Currently, Powerframe is found in battery sold by Advanced Autoparts 519 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 6: in their carqust locations. So all you have to do 520 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 6: is look for that Powerframe logo on the label and 521 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 6: at Advanced Autoparts stores you can find that in their 522 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 6: Gold and Platinum line of batteries, and at Carquest and 523 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 6: their silver, gold and Platinum. 524 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, listen, neat stuff. I think it's got to 525 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: be comforting for people to know they have alternatives and 526 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: there are ways to improve on their next battery purchase 527 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: by what they can buy. They can buy into the 528 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: better technology now. 529 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 6: So if yeah, if you want to find a retailer 530 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 6: near you, just go to powerframe dot com and you 531 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 6: can search for the closest location. 532 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: Right. 533 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. That was my next question is is there a 534 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: place the listeners can go say that again? Give that 535 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: to me again when. 536 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 6: We're talking powerframe dot com. Okay, And there's a search 537 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 6: function for finding the nearest retailer cool beans. 538 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: Hey, Mike hals them. We appreciate you taking the time 539 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: today and helping inform the listenership, and then we'll have 540 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: you on again real soon. You take good care of 541 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: a good rest of the day. 542 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 6: Thanks Ryan, I appreciate it. 543 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. I'm r on a any in the car Doctor, 544 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: and we are back right after this. 545 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 5: I ain't ever been with mom. 546 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back. Why don't they need the car doctor 547 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: hitting it hard and getting through the hour? Join me 548 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: as we continue this trip together, talking about your automobile 549 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: here at a five five five six zero nine nine 550 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: zero zero. Next up is Robbie from Valhalla, New York 551 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: with some questions and comments. Robbie, welcome to the card Doctor. 552 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: How can I help? 553 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 7: How are you doing all right? 554 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: How are you so? 555 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 7: I'm not bad? I don't know rainy some Saturday? 556 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, so. 557 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 7: I sent in an email, and I've got a two 558 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 7: part question. I have a number of personal vehicles, and 559 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 7: then I've also got company vehicles as well. And what 560 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 7: I'm really looking forward for is a scan tool. Okay, 561 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 7: that will suffice majority of my needs for majority of 562 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 7: the vehicles. Right, and goodhead the cars range, you know, 563 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 7: across the board from high end to regular. You know, 564 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 7: fort runs right. 565 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: That's and that's why I wanted to talk to you. 566 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: I've got your email in front of me, Robbie, just over, 567 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: just so we' roll on the same page. It's quite 568 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: a list. The family vehicles are, you know, two thousand 569 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: and six, BMW twenty eleven, Mini Cooper twenty eleven, Ranger 570 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: Over twenty ten, Toyota twenty ten, Mercedes seventy two, charger 571 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: of fifty five to four to seventy two, Mercedes business vehicles, 572 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: four trucks, Dodge trucks, Nissan, and a Volkswagen. Oh you 573 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: got one of those Folkswagen tdies. Yeah, good luck, good 574 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: good luck with that, my friend. 575 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll get. 576 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: You know, either that or they've got this phenometer doctor 577 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: and you don't know the difference. That'll be the next 578 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: thing that comes out. That's yeah, that'll be it. The 579 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: scan tool I had in mind because I wanted to 580 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: talk about this. I thought it was a good conversation. 581 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: You know, you have that eclectic collection of vehicles. It's 582 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: it's easy for a scan tool manufacturer to come up 583 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: with something that'll work on the Ford the GM the Chrysler. 584 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: That doesn't impress me. It's you need the scan tool 585 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: that'll do the BMW, the Mini Cooper, the Range were 586 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: over the Mercedes. Those are the tough ones here, all right, 587 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: and without breaking the bank and spending you know, upwards 588 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: of ten to twelve thousand dollars, which is probably out 589 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: of the question. I'm kind of thinking I wouldn't I 590 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't make I wouldn't make you spend that much money anyway, 591 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,239 Speaker 1: because I want you to go out and buy another car. 592 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: I want to see how big we can get the 593 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: fleet up to in the next year or two. I 594 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: think it's interesting the way this is growing. 595 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 7: Trying. Yeah, like it. 596 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: I can tell I'd like to see the size of 597 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: your garage, you know. I'm thinking you want to go 598 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: to LAUNCHTECHUSA dot com and look at the launch scan tools, 599 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: specifically the CRP two twenty nine android based touchscreen. All right, 600 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: good solid tool, it'll pull codes, it'll give you data stream. 601 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: They've got great tech support. It's if memory serves me correct, 602 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: And I tend to get a little confused on pricing, 603 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: so don't hold me to this. I think it's in 604 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: the four to six hundred dollars range. It might be 605 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: a little less, it might be a little more, but 606 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: it's definitely well under a grand from what I remember 607 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: when I read about it, and I actually have one 608 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: in the shop I use as a door tool. Now 609 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it also does some of the other 610 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: things that a lot of the other scan tools won't 611 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: do oil light resets. It'll do steering angle resets, because 612 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm also thinking maybe somewhere down in the future you're 613 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: going to have need for some of that. Of so, 614 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: and the way launch works, they're always making improvements and changes. 615 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: Their software updates I find are second to none. The 616 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: tool does it by itself. It's logging in and bang 617 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: away it goes. So take a look at launch Tech USA. 618 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: Give them a call. 619 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 4: You know. 620 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: The only complaint I have about launch Tech is some 621 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: of their English is pigeon English for lack of a 622 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: better way to put it. You know, it's it's just 623 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of written funny, and it catches your head 624 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: and you go, huh. But I'll tell you what I 625 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: can overlook that that's like one percent out of it, 626 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: the ninety nine percentile, the ninety nine point nine percent 627 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: tile of the Launch tools and it doesn't affect how 628 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: they work. They just flat out work. So definitely worth 629 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: looking at. What's the second part of your cuts. 630 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 7: And that's just going to the skin tool. When you 631 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 7: say it's Android based, does that mean I need to 632 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 7: have an Android help base. 633 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: Nope, that's just no, that's just the operating system. This 634 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: is a complete self this is a complete self contained unit. 635 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: And if memory serves me correct, the CRP two twenty 636 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: nine from Launch will have the BMW and the Mercedes 637 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: connector if not, verify that with them. What does it 638 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: take to get and what's the additional cost? And tell 639 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: them what you've got, tell them your list, what would 640 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: they recommend? And they'll be very glad, you know, I'll 641 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: say this. They are a very proud company. They're always 642 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: glad to help their customers and they're always glad to 643 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: make recommendations. You'll find more at launch tech USA dot com. 644 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: Second part to the. 645 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 7: Question, Okay, so I have the seventy two charger. It's 646 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 7: got a four forty in it. It's not it's not 647 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 7: very well worked on. It's probably taken out of an 648 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 7: RV or a truck or something and somebody put it 649 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 7: in this really beautiful, beautifully restored you know, seventy two 650 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 7: charger right, and I've got it down at a shop 651 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 7: not too far from where you are in Boonton, and 652 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 7: it just seems as though someone's fishing for some things. 653 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 7: You know. I've had it there for almost two months, 654 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 7: a little over two months now, and and I went 655 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 7: to pick it up two weeks ago, and it was 656 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 7: having trouble when they were pulling out of the garage 657 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 7: when they're it was having trouble idling right, and it 658 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 7: was like almost like a missile. It was flooding, or 659 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 7: you know, it was more flooding because I could smell 660 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 7: the fuel right at the end of the cut. 661 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Robbie, hold that thought. Because I'm 662 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: going to be tight against the clock. I don't want 663 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: to rush this. Let me pull over, take this plus, 664 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: stay right where you are, mon A Ny and the 665 00:33:35,880 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: car Doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome back the 666 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: car Doctor. Let's get right back to our coll Robbie 667 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: from Valhalla, New York. Robbie, you're still there, sir, Yes, sir, okay, 668 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: if you could finish that and then let me get 669 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: to an answer before the clock takes. 670 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 7: Us go ahead, so the charger and it seems like 671 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 7: it was flooding, flooding fuel. Long story short. They're telling 672 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 7: me that they've replaced the fuel pump multiple times with 673 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 7: a with a new pump that obviously knew is never 674 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 7: ever worked. That's right, Ye, So so they've replaced it 675 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 7: four times now. And now he's telling me that it 676 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 7: might be a fuel regulator as well. 677 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: Well. 678 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 7: And I have a couple you know, the other cars 679 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 7: that have car breakers on them, none of them have 680 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 7: fuel regulators. 681 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, why would you need a regulator on this car? 682 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 7: I have no idea. I think you know that it's 683 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 7: it seems like someone's just fishing, or they don't know, 684 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 7: or they did something that they actually messed up. Whatever 685 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 7: was actually working because it didn't have any of these 686 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 7: problems before. 687 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: Right, Well, I could buy that. You know, dirt in 688 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: the system is causing the needle to flood and you know, 689 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: causing the car up to drip and creating a flooding 690 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: out issue. And I guess what he's thinking is high 691 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: fuel pressure is pushing the needle off its seat. But 692 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: then what type of a fuel pump is he putting 693 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: in it that doesn't make any sense to me. Listen, 694 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: older car. You got to go back to basics. And 695 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: what I would probably do is the fact that the 696 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 1: car sat a couple of months, and maybe it sat 697 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: a little bit before you gave it to him. How 698 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: clean is the fuel is they're contaminant in the fuel, 699 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: and then work your way forward. If the fuel system 700 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: is clean, if the fuel sample is clean. And he's 701 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: having problems getting the pumps, there's good pumps out there. 702 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: You've got to find them good good manufacturers. To go 703 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: through four pumps and have the same repetitive problem. You know, 704 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and 705 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: over again expecting different results. I think it's something like that. 706 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: I think that's insane. So I would sit down and 707 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: have a conversation with him, and if you have to 708 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: pay what you owe them, get it out of there 709 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: and get it to somebody that can diagnose it and 710 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: repair it. Because it sounds like this guy's going down 711 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: the long path. I'm on any in the car doctor 712 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 713 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: See you