WEBVTT - The Tuna Bowl with Berj Najarian | Jets vs. Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>Like who is more mysterious? You were Ernie Adams, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you don't know. That's Bill can't. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>give me the Patriot technique. You can't just lean on

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<v Speaker 1>ask coach, can't. This is something we used to get

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<v Speaker 1>taught all the time. If you got flustered with the

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<v Speaker 1>question with the media, Bill would always say, just bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Just just tell him to ask me, because they've already

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<v Speaker 2>asked already.

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<v Speaker 1>They've already asked already. Today we have a very special guest.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Belichick's right hand man.

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<v Speaker 2>He's Bill Belichick's right hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, man of mystery. But anyone who played for the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots new bearers.

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<v Speaker 4>He knows where the buyser. Barry the guy who knows

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<v Speaker 4>where everything is, everything's up to, but you don't know

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<v Speaker 4>who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>By design, No, by design everything to do with any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of operation.

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<v Speaker 2>Bears was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Former Patriots Director of Football Ops slash head coach administration,

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<v Speaker 1>Bears Nagerian.

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<v Speaker 2>The coaches I've worked under, pat Riley, Bill Parcells, Jef

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<v Speaker 2>Van Gundy, Bill Belichick, Bill O'Bryan, Like, I'm doing all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So are you the coach whisper? Are you the coach,

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<v Speaker 1>whisper or bears. Now we are going over the Tuna

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl Jets versus Patriots, Week three, nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And this one has massive storylines. The year before Hatriots

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl loser, and this game was just off the

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<v Speaker 2>chartist hype due to a lot of circumstances center me

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<v Speaker 2>around the man they called Tuna.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the misconception of building you know?

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<v Speaker 2>With Bill?

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<v Speaker 1>Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are on a mission to find the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>game of all time. This is another Games with Names

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<v Speaker 1>Boston edition episode. Feels great to be back in the

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<v Speaker 1>town back baby. It's always great to be back in

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<v Speaker 1>this town. I act like the Bay back baby baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Where anytime I come back here, I live in La now,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I go on a trip or something, I

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<v Speaker 1>go back to LA. It's starting to feel home, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I with my new routine everything, but anytime I come

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<v Speaker 1>back to Boston, I go to my condo or my place.

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<v Speaker 2>This feels like home. It's home.

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<v Speaker 1>So many great memories, so many unbelievable people that I've

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<v Speaker 1>met that have been pivotal parts of my life and career.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just great to be back. And today we are

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<v Speaker 1>covering the Tuna Bowl from Week three of the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven season with former Patriots Director of Football Ops

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<v Speaker 1>Slash head Coach Administration Slash instagram Sifting and current chief

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<v Speaker 1>of staff for Boston College Football Bears, Nigerian Man of Mystery,

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<v Speaker 1>Man of mystery. But we all anyone who played for

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots New Bears. He was like, he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, who's the sidekick to the principal system principle?

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<v Speaker 1>He's kind of assistant principle, not really because he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that one.

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<v Speaker 4>When people ask him, I'm saying, he knows where the

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<v Speaker 4>buyers are buried. He's the guy who knows where everything is.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything's up to that's ugged in, but you don't know

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<v Speaker 4>who he is.

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<v Speaker 2>By design, it's a big at.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a buffer. He's the buffer.

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<v Speaker 5>He's seen a lot of thing. You've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of stuff go down, seeing a lot of great football,

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<v Speaker 5>been part of a lot of great football, built dynasties.

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<v Speaker 4>With Bills just texted me that he's Smithers.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just gonna say is that a mister Burne

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<v Speaker 5>Smithers tye.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he's cooler than Smithers.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good that's a good little uh across the

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<v Speaker 1>the way from ol the Soft.

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<v Speaker 5>Swiss Soft don't miss baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, great interview.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great interview. This is an insane interview. We

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<v Speaker 1>get into talking about being Bill Belichick's right hand man.

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<v Speaker 1>Still Is I think still Is kind of feels like

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<v Speaker 1>it even though he works for Billy Oh and he's

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<v Speaker 1>Billy O's right here man at Boston College. The drama

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<v Speaker 1>between Parcels and the Patriots back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of drama, A lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Of drama, jumping ship, bad blood, rematch, revenge, Hatesvitz Jets,

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<v Speaker 5>Pattatriots Jets, full soap opera, and all the behind the

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<v Speaker 5>scenes things.

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<v Speaker 2>It took to build a dynasty.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of hard work, a lot of hard work,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people, not just the team, not

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<v Speaker 1>just the coaches, but the people like the people like Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we get into wrapping it up with the

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<v Speaker 2>old hot line.

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<v Speaker 5>Love it got some good calls this week. Let's go

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<v Speaker 5>get in.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on September fourteenth, nineteen ninety seven, Foxboro Stadium, Foxboro, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Parcells returns to New England for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>after leading to them to a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>But this Sunday night soap opera won't be settled in regulation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the tune.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>That was awesome. Welcome to Games with Names.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we have a very special guest. We have

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<v Speaker 1>Bears Nigerian joining us here in the nuthouse, Boston version,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston version. Welcome to the studio, Jewels, great to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable. Is it unbelievable? Yeah? It is. I mean we're

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<v Speaker 2>together hours and hours and years in like a hallway

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<v Speaker 2>or an office or a locker room or field, and

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<v Speaker 2>that we're sitting in here in your studio, on your set.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my house. This isn't a studio or a set.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this.

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<v Speaker 1>We do this in the real places that we live

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<v Speaker 1>because we want real conversations. And I just hope that

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<v Speaker 1>the world gets a real conversation from the Bears, the myth,

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<v Speaker 1>the man.

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<v Speaker 2>The legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we are going over the tunabwl Woo Jets versus Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>Week three, nineteen ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Why this game, Bears, This is a big game man

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<v Speaker 2>for so many reasons. It's a huge game. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this game, this is one of the most hype games ever,

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<v Speaker 2>every regular season games, I swear like regular season games

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<v Speaker 2>to that point. It's one of the most hype games ever.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was I was actually part of it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think most people by this point might think of me

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<v Speaker 2>as a Patriot, as they should twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Years as Robert Craff said, we are all Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>We are for sure. But before I was a Patriot,

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<v Speaker 2>I was a jet And that was actually a jet

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<v Speaker 2>Week three, nineteen ninety seven for the Tuna Bowl, and

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<v Speaker 2>this game was just off the charts hype due to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of circumstances center around the man they called

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<v Speaker 2>Tuna Bill Parcells. Yeah, there are numerous players, great players,

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<v Speaker 2>Patriot Hall of famers, Pro Football Hall of famers, in

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<v Speaker 2>this game. There was this There was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>emotion going into this game and during this game before

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other things happened in the years to come,

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<v Speaker 2>but this is really a milestone event before social media. Nowadays,

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<v Speaker 2>social media is what hypes games, right, Twitter, Instagram, all

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<v Speaker 2>these things. There's social media and it's off the charts.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there was no social media. There was barely

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<v Speaker 2>on the internet. It's barely on the internet in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seven. So games were hyped by splashy headlines and

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<v Speaker 2>newspapers and sports talk radio, which were live in humming

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<v Speaker 2>in New York and Boston at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Humming, Yeah, is this the greatest game of all time?

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<v Speaker 2>Bears, No, it's not the greatest of all time. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say that. I can't say it. I'm just saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of guests. Yeah, I mean I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't sit here and break down a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>plays and do exces, and but I can do themes

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<v Speaker 2>and storylines, and this one has massive storylines. The year before,

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots Super Bowl loser is Tuna in Is He's out.

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<v Speaker 2>He's out, and there's a lot of fallout that came

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<v Speaker 2>with that. As people know the men's beloved in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>He was beloved here as Patriots coach, went to the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl. But then he leaves and it's not all good.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some venom toward him. There's a lot of hype

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<v Speaker 2>in the media and week three, here we are the

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<v Speaker 2>next season, the very next season, coming off of Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl year, the Jets are coming off of a one

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<v Speaker 2>in fifteen season. But there's a lot of excitement, optimism

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<v Speaker 2>with the rival of Bill Parcells and his staff and

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<v Speaker 2>the people in Foxboro. Man, you know, like they were

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<v Speaker 2>ready for this game, a night game. There weren't that

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<v Speaker 2>many night games in Foxborough leading up to that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many, but I don't think there were

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of night games even in that stadium. And

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<v Speaker 2>the fans were ready to go, ready to go, fueled up,

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<v Speaker 2>egging busses like not one or two, I mean like

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<v Speaker 2>egging buses.

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<v Speaker 1>This is back when fans could be fans. This is

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<v Speaker 1>back when fans could be fans. Jack Eggs on the bus.

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<v Speaker 5>It is in Jellette either, this is in Jellette. It

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<v Speaker 5>was old Boxborough st sixty thousand plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty thousand plus right, I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Going back and watching this tape. There was a world,

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<v Speaker 5>it felt like a bizarro world where the NFL Sunday

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<v Speaker 5>Night Football was on TNT TNT and Craig Sager was

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<v Speaker 5>on the sidelines of a football game and Vern Lndquist

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<v Speaker 5>was up in the booth for T and T with

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It was wild.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a ninety seven football I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when football was football. All Right, we'll dive

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<v Speaker 1>into that bear.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get back to the game. But it is a

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<v Speaker 2>cool game. Oh, it's amazing. We're gonna get to the game. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get to the game, because that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>why we're here, right, No, that we're here to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this game.

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<v Speaker 1>All the reason why we're here.

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<v Speaker 2>All the reasons. But what's life looking like for you

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Good? It's going great. You know at Boston

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<v Speaker 2>college's been there like four months now. It's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say some things are very similar, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>football's football, and if you walk into a Bill O'Brien

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<v Speaker 2>team meeting or Bill O'Brien staff meeting, you're hearing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Bill Belichick themes, philosophies, but with a different

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<v Speaker 2>with a different twist. They have very different personalities for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but at its core there's some similarities there. But b

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<v Speaker 2>C is a great place. He knows what he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll be it's good to be at a place

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<v Speaker 2>with an identity. BC has an identity, knows what it's

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<v Speaker 2>what it is that education and building the whole person

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<v Speaker 2>and playing good football given to the community and like

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he's about. It's a great fit with him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great fit with me to be with him,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I know the guy so well. Great

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<v Speaker 2>think about this I've been and we go back to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the coaches I've worked under, and we can go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the next, pat Riley, Bill Parcells, well, Jeff

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<v Speaker 2>fun Jeff Fan Gundy. I think Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill O'Brien, like, I'm doing all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So are you the coach whisper Are you the coach

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<v Speaker 1>whisperer bears?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I wouldn't say that. I'm just just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to help out man.

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<v Speaker 1>Like who is more mysterious?

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<v Speaker 5>You were?

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<v Speaker 2>Ernie Adams, I don't know. I don't know. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know that's Bill or Bill. Oh you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't give me the patriot technique. You can't just

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<v Speaker 1>lean on ask coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something we used to get taught all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>If you got flustered with the question with the media,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill would always say, just bring it back to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Just just tell him to ask me, because they've already

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<v Speaker 2>asked already.

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<v Speaker 1>They've already asked already.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know. I mean maybe I am a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. I don't go out there. I mean maybe

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<v Speaker 2>other than now and talk about myself and what I

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<v Speaker 2>do is the people. No one knows.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why we wanted to bring you in here

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's like it's because of people like you

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<v Speaker 1>that people outside the building don't really realize how much

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<v Speaker 1>of a team sport winning in an organization is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just about the players and the coaches. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>the people, the operations and people. It's about the facility people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the equipment, equipment for sure, it's about the

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<v Speaker 1>training staff. And that's what we want to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on here. Can you tell the people what your role

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<v Speaker 1>was with the Patriots?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there are a lot of specifical what was

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<v Speaker 2>the actual title? And then we can get in what

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<v Speaker 2>your role it was kind of lengthy director of football

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<v Speaker 2>slash head coach administration. Okay, you know what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>It means that I help him. What it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>is I don't coach players.

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<v Speaker 5>You know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I never coached you, never talked to you about your

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<v Speaker 2>technique or a route or whatever defense. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that. We can eliminate that I don't do. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't do treatments on players.

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<v Speaker 1>But mental treatment. You gave me mental treatment barriers when

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<v Speaker 1>I needed it. Sometimes I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep going. But you know, he's involved. He is responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of stuff, a lot like Honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>think about sometimes, like who in the NFL, other than

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the commissioner, like handle more than him. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>every contract, every play, every higher and every whatever. Dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with lots of things. So when he was at Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he took you know, all that on himself,

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<v Speaker 2>like everything, and then when he realized second time around,

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<v Speaker 2>like he doesn't need to do all that, like give

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<v Speaker 2>all that's a lot of that to somebody else to

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<v Speaker 2>handle all the other shit, as he put it, So

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that's important, you know, all the operational things, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, making sure travel is right the way he

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<v Speaker 2>wants it, making sure you know, everybody's on the same

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<v Speaker 2>page with whatever the schedule or how we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>handle some event that's coming up, or what's really important

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<v Speaker 2>at the Patriots organization is as good as it is

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<v Speaker 2>on the field, it's very sophisticated and accomplished off the

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<v Speaker 2>field with business things and sponsorships and pr and all

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<v Speaker 2>those things. Like it's elite, so the football team has

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<v Speaker 2>a part in that. So I was kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>go between and a lot of those things like fulfilling

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<v Speaker 2>obligation to a corporate partner and we need players you've

0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.760
<v Speaker 2>been in allow all those things. So a lot of

0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.520
<v Speaker 2>that would go through me, and he don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>really deal with that stuff, but we got to make

0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.360
<v Speaker 2>it happen. We got to make it work. So like

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<v Speaker 2>picking an event that you did through the club, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was probably involved in it somewhere along the line.

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<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of things with access to the team,

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<v Speaker 2>which is very important, you know, showing behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 2>things which we didn't do every day, but we did

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<v Speaker 2>a fair amount over the years. Like we did like

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<v Speaker 2>that's got to go through somebody between me and Stacy James,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we would get in there, we'd see

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<v Speaker 2>the footage and I, let's use this, that looks good whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and like that's like a weekly basis during the season.

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<v Speaker 1>So you feel you had a lot of hats, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of hats, which is blig lessing for me because it

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<v Speaker 2>allowed me to interact with a lot of people a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wasn't like just doing sitting at my

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<v Speaker 2>desk doing one thing. I was working with everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was. Bears was with everyone. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in every meeting. He was the first person you saw

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<v Speaker 1>when you walk through the door because his office was

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<v Speaker 1>at the entrance, and you know, you would see Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably just came in from his seventeen mile run

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Always running. The guy's in elite shape.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he'd be handing out red scheduled like everything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with any kind of operation, Bears was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. Can you what was like the most taxing day

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<v Speaker 2>for you for work? Yeah? What was it like? Because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like Tuesday's players day off.

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<v Speaker 1>Our Thursday was always an elite tax day for the

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<v Speaker 1>player because it was third down. It was our last

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<v Speaker 1>day of practice. Fast Fridays the next day you travel

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. What was your most taxing day that you

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<v Speaker 1>like had to use all that brain power.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely Monday and tuesdays during the season for sure. Probably Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, you come in and I like to

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<v Speaker 2>watch the game, the TV copy of the game. Like

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of Monday, I'd like to have watched

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<v Speaker 2>that just to kind of see, you know, what the

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<v Speaker 2>world is seeing. You know what's me? Is it a

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<v Speaker 2>signed or you did that on personal You know, with

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<v Speaker 2>Bill over the years, there are a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>that were assigned that he expected and he asked for.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are also things that I just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>did that and gave you worked proactively, not reactively. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And Sam, you hear that, Sam, see you around corners,

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Man.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would you know, out of watching the game,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I would say hey, Bill or write it down

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<v Speaker 2>and it to him. A few things that came out

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<v Speaker 2>of that. You know, Okay, that's good for him to know.

0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Then he wouldn't have otherwise known like what, here's what,

0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 2>here's something the announcers said that their coaches said about us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we won the football.

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<v Speaker 1>Look you say something to the media, I'll fucking tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the game plan.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, Sometimes they do sometimes they do they

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<v Speaker 2>or if you build it over the course of a

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<v Speaker 2>whole season, going back to training camp, like you know

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys are open, so you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like the entire game plan and you know, one comment,

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<v Speaker 2>but over the course of like ten games, you might

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<v Speaker 2>get some themes which everything's logged. Yeah. Sure, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if we won, if we won a ball game, which

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we won a lot of ball games, they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be game ball winners. They're gonna be quotes on

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<v Speaker 2>the they're gonna be I do know. No, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>game I take that. No, I didn't say I gave

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<v Speaker 2>game balls. But game ball winners get pictures on a wall. Okay, pictures,

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<v Speaker 2>so not it's not all me, but it starts with

0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.840
<v Speaker 2>the photographers that Dave Silverman's and those guys, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know right there, like they take thousands of photos during

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<v Speaker 2>a game. Well those kind of get filtered down.

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<v Speaker 1>Filter, you filter them every you go through every photo.

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<v Speaker 2>And now our stuff, I might go through like sixty

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<v Speaker 2>to get to the twenty two or so that we

0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.080
<v Speaker 2>put up, you know what I mean. And for the

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, sometimes there was some backlash on that,

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<v Speaker 2>like where's my picture?

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<v Speaker 1>I used to get this all the time for the listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you'd walk in every week after a victory

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<v Speaker 1>and we'd have highlighted pictures throughout the facility of that

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<v Speaker 1>week's game. A big play moment, a big block, a

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<v Speaker 1>big touchdown, the lineman celebrating in the end zone, something

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, basically showed what we did in that

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<v Speaker 1>week's game. And you know, you walk in and we

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<v Speaker 1>all knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Bears picked the photos. We all knew Bears picked the photos.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's a line of guys, but Bears was a

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<v Speaker 1>lead and sometimes you know, you go in there like

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<v Speaker 1>for US players to have your picture on the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>At least for me, I loved it, like you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go in. That means they recognized you or what

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<v Speaker 1>you did in the game as something of some importance.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's all we were trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To do there is just try to get a little

0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.960
<v Speaker 1>something nice out of you know coach, you know, because

0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.080
<v Speaker 1>he was very stickler. He was hard on you, but

0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.879
<v Speaker 1>he needed that. But that was his way of showing appreciation.

0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>So Bears was at the forefront of that. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you go in after a game and you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. I'd walk through all every hall, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>walk through every hall, I see, I bet Bears, where

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<v Speaker 1>the fu's my photo?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Did you have? Were there any other guys like

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<v Speaker 2>that or a lot of times it was you get

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<v Speaker 2>it from Andrew. Sometimes old lineman. You know they oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>they but a lot of times, you know you think

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<v Speaker 2>that old lineman like they don't really want that right,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know some of them did. But it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just the photos too. We had a we had an

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<v Speaker 2>award called Hatred of the Week, which wasn't necessarily the

0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.679
<v Speaker 2>guy who scored it, winning touchdown or made you know,

0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 2>interceptions or whatever. It was a guy who overcame some

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.920
<v Speaker 2>adversity or did something extra, like more of a you know,

0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 2>great teammate type of one award, and there would be

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<v Speaker 2>a little comment or a little blurb on you know

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<v Speaker 2>what it was. He dealt with an injury, or he

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<v Speaker 2>played like six positions and you know, in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>or it was ready to go, or had you know,

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 2>some family situation, and so that would be a decision.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also like that that big portrait on the wall

0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:34.200
<v Speaker 2>that there would be the score of the game, the opponent,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a little a little one liner there. It

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<v Speaker 2>might follow up something that he talked about during the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you coming up through all those ones? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>are you? I would well, in the end, in the

0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.040
<v Speaker 2>end he would look at it, but I would like

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<v Speaker 2>that would be part of Monday, think about, right, what

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<v Speaker 2>are we gonna do? And you know, give it to

0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 2>him And most of them were like, yeah, that's good.

0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:54.879
<v Speaker 2>Or sometimes I won't say say this too. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a press conference, is a team meeting? You know, I

0:20:56.960 --> 0:21:00.600
<v Speaker 2>would a lot of times give him a thoughts on

0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 2>things to say to the team. You know, something was

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.040
<v Speaker 2>handled well. Or here's something we talked about last week,

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.639
<v Speaker 2>and maybe you didn't really remember exactly what it was,

0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.400
<v Speaker 2>but here are the three things we said. All right.

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Here they were we talked about this, it happened, talk

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:17.119
<v Speaker 2>about this didn't happen. You know, Wow, how many hours

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 2>do you think you put in a week?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I don't know. You know, early

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.879
<v Speaker 2>in my career I was, uh, I was kind of

0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:29.879
<v Speaker 2>paranoid about leaving, like you don't want to leave, you

0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.639
<v Speaker 2>don't want to leave. But later on I got you know,

0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 2>I got kids and whatever I would leave, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Like, so it's too by the day,

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 2>like every morning I'm in by whatever six or something

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 2>like that, go for a run and then whenever that

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 2>then we go. Mondays leave around eight thirty Tuesdays leave

0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:53.639
<v Speaker 2>around eight thirty nine. Wednesdays, eight thirty Thursdays somewhere in there,

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and then Friday Friday. It's like five or so so

0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:58.880
<v Speaker 2>total a of them. Whatever that is, I don't know.

0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of hours hours. Tell you what, though,

0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't a day, not one day twenty four years

0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 2>driving up to that place was and I thought, no,

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be here today. That never happened, Jesus.

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I used to think that everything after we doubt that.

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<v Speaker 2>After weeked, I doubt that, well after week eight. It hurts.

0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there. What the fuck am I thinking about?

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<v Speaker 2>You're still the first guy in somehow.

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<v Speaker 1>So Scarnakio was. I tried to beat the rookie my

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 1>rookie year. I beat him once. He was like three

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 1>forty five. I just wanted to see if I could

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:31.479
<v Speaker 1>beat Scarnakia.

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<v Speaker 2>He was probably got it in at three forty didn't

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.360
<v Speaker 2>he get in like four or something. He's probably stick

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 2>that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Bears, What was your most obscure task?

0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:46.879
<v Speaker 2>The most obscure task? I mean, Bill had some needs

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 2>on a road now, like he wants his office. Like

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 2>it's not like on the road, like we don't just

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<v Speaker 2>go to a hotel. I think some teams, like they

0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 2>go on the road, they show up, they might meet,

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 2>they might not. They go out to dinner, go to bed,

0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.479
<v Speaker 2>get up and go play. It's not like that at

0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.840
<v Speaker 2>the Patriot. No, you know, you get there and then

0:23:06.040 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 2>we're like scrambling at the hotel to recreate our offices

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.560
<v Speaker 2>at Gillette Stadium, especially if it's not a one night stay,

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 2>for the two nights stay or a week long stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're in your office, like you have the ball

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:19.520
<v Speaker 2>you have a ballroom where it's chopped up, and then

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 2>there are different spots in the hotel that you turn

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>into an office. So Bill's office has got to be

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:29.720
<v Speaker 2>like it's got to be detailed, obviously, the work space,

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:33.199
<v Speaker 2>the screen, the treadmill, the place to hang closed, the

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 2>iced tea. The So Bill's not a coffee Guy's a

0:23:36.119 --> 0:23:39.640
<v Speaker 2>nice tea guy. Right, Bill's not a coffee guy at all,

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 2>thinks iced tea? Yeah sweet, it's unsweetened lemon. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're telling me Bill is not just sitting in

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 5>the corner at the little desk with the with the

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 5>Bible and the little pad like doing his work there.

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<v Speaker 5>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, you might not even get to that

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 2>you might even get to that room until you know,

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>four hours after we arrive, you know, after going meeting

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 2>with the media, work meeting with the staff, meet with

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the coaches, and meet with the scouts after that, and

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 2>then and then eventually get to the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like people don't like we'd all have like a

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>two hour like hour break before meetings started or treatment started.

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.919
<v Speaker 1>When you get to the the hotel of the away

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 1>game and you know, we'd have some time downtime where

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<v Speaker 1>we can go change, get out of the suit because

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you had to wear a suit during travel. Bill had

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>be in that goddamn suit until about ten thirty at night.

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, lose tige and all.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, his feet had to hurt. Man. You know

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 2>what's it? Didn't you guys use to have weight challenges

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 2>we did. That was pretty good. That was at the Jets.

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 2>That was that started at the Jets at least. Yeah,

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 2>everybody had had a goal. This was serious too. There

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 2>was the contracts involved. There were there were sabotage. There,

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 2>there was sabotage. There would be like and Bill did this,

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 2>uh he would put it was like maybe six or

0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 2>seven of us, like you know, trying to lose different

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 2>amounts away Like I wasn't trying to lose that much,

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 2>but whatever, but I was in it. But he would

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 2>put he would put like a slice of pizza in

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 2>someone's desk drawer or some cookies in there. The you

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:17.640
<v Speaker 2>know when the weigh ins are about to come up,

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 2>and there were penalties about it if you try to

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>tamper with a scale, which that happened. This was prey Dope,

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:33.199
<v Speaker 2>pre dayball. This was this was Mike, Mike Tannemoum, Scott Pioli,

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Charlie Weiss, Eric Mannging, and Charlie Weiss. Actually he had

0:25:36.960 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 2>he had like a serious I don't know if actually

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 2>how serious a condition was. He had like a really

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:46.639
<v Speaker 2>uncontrollable like nosebleed one day like right before away in

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and like they wouldn't let him out of the beat,

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 2>like they would have let him out man, Contracts and

0:25:53.840 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 2>contract right, it turned into a big deal like Tagli

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>But it works, man, it worked, Yeah, yeah, it worked. Man.

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Everyone made their weights. So I mean, well, not not

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 2>very healthy, but healthy competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you take us through a game day? What do

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 1>you what's your what's your process? What do you think?

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing on game day. Are you going

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>there to the facility to check the game clocks and

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>report to Bill like eight the wins this? Or are

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 1>you just straight getting the team right and what are

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>you doing on the game day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it varies different things, Like I've I would always

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I would be the one to submit the inactive form,

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, like the players, and you know a lot

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>of weeks there's like so there's six or seven depending

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 2>on what it is now, but six or seven players

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 2>who are on the active roster who are not active

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:46.840
<v Speaker 2>for the game. So that's that's to get submitted to

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 2>the league. And there's some other information you got to

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 2>put on there too, But the inactive form is important

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of times it comes down the last second,

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 2>like is this guy healthy enough to play? Is he not?

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 2>He's going through a workout, and it could go up

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 2>to like ten minutes left. I remember, hey, I'm sure.

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember do you remember the when I had

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a broken when I broke my arm and it was

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>my rookie year and I was like, I got a

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>surgery and I was like maybe fourteen days out of surgery,

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm leaving on Friday to go to my house

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>because I just started practicing in that second week, and

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.360
<v Speaker 1>as I'm leaving Bars was the guy that would stop you. Hey,

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>coach wants to talk to you. What do you mean

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>coach wanst talk to me. Yeah, but my going you

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>might have to go get your suit, remember that. Yeah,

0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I had to go get my suit.

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, he goes.

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I think Bill wants you to travel because it'll be

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 1>good for uh, you know, uh just matchup looks. People

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>will just to see you travel. I'm like, all right, cool, awesome,

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'll go get my suit travel. And then

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I did the game day workout. Yeah, and on game day,

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there the night before, me and Slate actually

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.679
<v Speaker 1>we shared a room on the road early in our career.

0:27:58.320 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there like, I don't know if I could

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>do this, Slate, I don't know I could do this.

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>This is fucking terrible. Sunday night football. Was it Sunday

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>night and Monday night?

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it was a Sunday Sunday night, Yeah, Sunday.

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 1>So I go, I go to bed terrified. Wake up

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the next morning. I wake up Slate, I'm like, it

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Sunday night football.

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm going I'm gonna go.

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>So I do my workout. I mean I haven't. I

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>just broke my arm and I'm doing workout before the thing.

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, Coach, I think it's gonna be all right.

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>He's like, all right, puts me in first touchdown. You

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>were the first one to let me know.

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 2>There you go. See, I got I got more fun

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 2>facts for you Sunday, say too, we'll get to what

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>do you got. I got a fun facts for you,

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>which that relates to game day. So you asked, you know,

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 2>one of the things I do, I talk about access, right, Like,

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 2>so every every team has people that work with NFL Films,

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 2>right and and NFL Films is has the right to

0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 2>mike players up right, got some good ones here, don't we.

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 2>So you know that goes through Stacey James. It goes

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>through me, like who are going to make up? Here's

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>who we want who? You know, team has a little

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 2>bit of influence on who it can be and maybe

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>we should stay away. Some guys don't like to be miked.

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>And then afterward, you know, is a process of whatever

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>whatever they put out there, whatever footage they have. Well,

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 2>in the history of the National Football League, someone has

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>the most postseason miked up games the most postseason miked

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 2>up games in the history of the National Football League.

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Tom Brady, my homes Kelsey, I'm into this stuff and

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I happened to be involved eleven for number eleven? What

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:53.800
<v Speaker 2>about that? Good guess this guy right here, let's go

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 2>whose house? I'm sitting in more postseason wires than anyone

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 2>else in the history of the National Football How about that?

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 5>Hell? Yes?

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Now? Why a good question? Well, you know, like I said,

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 2>there's a process. We were undefeated for a while. We

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 2>were until the last one. We were you know, there's

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>something that we're overly superstitious. But you know, it's going

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 2>pretty good there for a while. Did it performed a

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of great plays in there, game winning plays, you know,

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 2>entertainment value. They wouldn't they wouldn't keep asking unless it

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>was good, you know, good material, some good material on there.

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>So he kept asking. We kept saying, Yes, that's awesome.

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 5>There's incredible quotes doing there.

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate incredible. Now, Bears, you had to sift through

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>all the footage. I love you Bill, I love you

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>Bill on there on the stage. Yeah, you're too old.

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>There's a couple of them. I do love Bill, I

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>got it. I caught it.

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 4>We're huge fans of NFL films here. What is the

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 4>process like after the fact? So are you reviewing the footage?

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 4>They send it all the miked up? How does that?

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a is a great trust with those guys,

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 2>like they're not out to ever make anyone look bad.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 2>So pretty much what they what they want is what

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 2>it is there. But there are times like, eh, there's

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 2>something going on that maybe you don't know about that,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe we would rather not having there, so they'll, you know,

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>they'll generally work with some. I mean, I don't know

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>if you've ever and all those eleven wires, it's a

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of a lot of footage. Ever been anything? Has

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>ever been anything that you like? Maybe there are some

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but nothing nothing that we thought was

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>so egregious that we've demanded nothing that was public.

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>But I remember one of the super Bowl parties, okay,

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>remember we had they had like the there's a PG

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 1>version and then there's like a rated R version. Okay,

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>remember one of the super Bowl parties we had like

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the rated R ship of Yeah, that was there's some

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff there that I was like, I wouldn't have gone

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>well if it.

0:31:54.880 --> 0:32:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Went public, Well it didn't. So yeah, so see another way,

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 2>we're connected. We are connected, man, connected.

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, what's the biggest misconception of Bill Belichick?

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, seeh I butter you up, Butter you up. Eventually

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 2>we're going to get to the sign on the door.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, speak your job, speak for yourself, Speak

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 2>for yourself. That's on the way out. You know. Can

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you my last day there, when I left, my last

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>day there, I saw I saw on the door. Speak

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 2>for yourself. I'm gonna remember that today for the rest

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 2>of this conversation. But anyway, nor the noise, the hype,

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 2>manage the expectations. Speak for yourself. That's on the way out.

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 2>What's on the way in. Do your job, work hard,

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>be attentive, and put the team first. Put the team first.

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, man, this is this is the

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 2>way of life. Man. This isn't like mottos and slogans.

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not. So what's the misconception of building? How many

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 2>times he said uh F and Foxborough Hi? I mean

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I was in every meeting for twenty years. For twenty years,

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe he said it every day on the field or

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>in privately. I wasn't there, so I didn't hear it.

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Like the amount of times I hear, you know, I

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>could get someone from Foxboro. He didn't say it that

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 2>many times. He did not say it that many times.

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>It makes it be twice a year if it happened

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to maybe maybe twice a year.

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you out of one hundred meetings.

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Some guy making eight, ten, fifteen million dollars sitting there

0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>watching film and he hears that, he's gonna remember that.

0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>So it may have only been twice a year.

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>But if you were on the team for six years, Okay,

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not a math guy, but that's twelve times.

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>But not all directed at you.

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 1>No, but you hear Foxborough High, it's because it's gonna

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>stick out because they can't execute a snap.

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't because you know, you know, couldn't make a

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>play in triple coverage. He couldn't you do a snap

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>or two yard past. So that's the biggest misconception, is

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Foxborough High. That's the biggest misconception. But that's a everyone here, guys.

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Foxborough High never happened because no, no, no, no, I

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't say never. It's not as much as people think

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what else about Bill. He's funny. I mean,

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that's starting to come out. A very funny

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 2>guy sometimes like he's not trying and you you know,

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>you try to suppress the laughter, but he can be

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 2>very funny. Well.

0:34:21.800 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>His his way of getting at you is through like

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>statistics and numbers, like and his knowledge of the game.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 2>He'll sit there.

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>And he'll prove a point by bringing back an all

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>time great that he coached, and he'll give out the

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>actual number of snaps, the number of plays that you've done,

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 2>This is what this? Did you know?

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 1>That's his way of getting But it's kind of like

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting there like that's kind of funny.

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Another one i'd say, you know, and not that he

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>doesn't get after players. He gets after players and staph.

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>For sure, there's you know, there's yelling, but it's not

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 2>like it's not all the time in your face. To me,

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.879
<v Speaker 2>it's not that you're trying to avoid that. You're trying

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 2>to avoid the like the most slight expression like you

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>screwed something up and you're gonna get like that's all.

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Did you see that? I don't if you even noticed that.

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 2>I saw that one. You know, it's not like it's

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 2>not in your face, like that's a parcels fear like

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 2>that could happen. But with Bill's more of those types

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 2>of things that you're trying to avoid.

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like disappointing your father.

0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't want to disappoint the guy.

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>He was like, he didn't have to say anything. Is

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>or the way he hit the Remember he hit the

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>podium so hard. He hit that podium hard because I

0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>was right there. Yeah, I was, guy's got some cowbos hands.

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>You guys, did you watch the roast?

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Was that the roast? Yeah? This is a yeah, I was,

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I was there. That was that was something else that

0:35:57.680 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. Man, I went with Billy out we

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 2>had we were actually out there. We were out there

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 2>because there was some Boston College alumni events we were

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>out there for, which is awesome, and it just so

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 2>happened to coincide. So we went the whole thing. Just

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 2>walking into the forum starting with that, like that's pretty cool,

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 2>just knowing the history and all the stars and everything,

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the photos on the walls and stuff, and then you

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>go in and it's like this you know high and

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 2>you know extravagant event and then like, okay, this is nice.

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Lots of people around and here we go, lots of laughs.

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 1>It feel weird going to the Patriot roast, the Tom

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Brady roast, whatever the roast was with Billy O as

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a BC guy. Uh well, you guys, you guys were

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>both in it, so you guys felt.

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we're close enough to it. I didn't. I didn't.

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I felt, you know, more inside than outside on that

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>just because all the people and yeah, you know, but

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 2>a lot of laughs and a lot of moments like

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.959
<v Speaker 2>I did that, like several times, there's as our table.

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how this came about, as me Billy,

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Michael Crabtree and Charles Woodson and one of their guys like,

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 2>that's our table. And then at the next table, Kim

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Kardashian and her crew. You probably know that. You probably

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>know right next to come on, right, it's army and

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 2>let's see army. And right there.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 5>I did.

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:30.880
<v Speaker 2>I was going to after, but she went the other way. Whatever.

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, who knows. Next time? Next time I

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.920
<v Speaker 2>went and saw Andrew Schultz instead. He was nicky Lazer,

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:46.280
<v Speaker 2>was very funny, really good. No, there's like professional athletes.

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, people think I could do that. I did

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 2>that in high school. I could you know, I could

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 2>have done that. These comedians and you can't do that.

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:55.600
<v Speaker 2>You're not a profession you can't do that.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>These comedians like they there, that's their that's their environment,

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that's the mojo.

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 5>But after seeing Bill for all these years and knowing

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 5>Bill for all these years, how do you think Bill

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 5>did up there?

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Right? I mean I was happy that people got to

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>see that. Oh yeah, because we see that and we

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 2>know that, and I mean I was happy he got

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 2>out basically alive. You know, he took some shots, he

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 2>took some shots, but you know, it was like arapeutic.

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like a big therapy session.

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I was just wondering, like I was wondering as like,

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 2>hopefully this stuff isn't going to carry over, like that

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 2>was what happened at the roast. Days at the roast,

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and now we move on, like or is the bar

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 2>changed as the standard changed? Oh what do you think?

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty four?

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>It's fucking there is no bar, no bar, no bar, bears,

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I like bars.

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 4>Before we move on from the roast, you just mentioned

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 4>earlier that some of Belichick's humor was in like stats.

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 4>He gave Amandola one at the roast.

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 2>That was good. Well, you know a little back and

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 2>forth there, there is, there's some back and forth so

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 2>which maybe goes back to something that you know about.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you just sit back and forth, back

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and forth.

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.800
<v Speaker 1>So when when someone goes and says something about Bill,

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 1>who's the person that brings the information to Bill that

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:16.799
<v Speaker 1>someone said something about Bill?

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Listen, I'm not I don't know what happens outside of me.

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it's me sometimes probably other people sometimes, like you know,

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I keep them informed even now I might shoot him

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 2>an email, but I just you know, you know, it's

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 2>ingrained in me.

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta kiss the rings as a godfather.

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 2>It's a relationship.

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Now, well segue to you dipped into it being it's

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>a way of life, a patriot. It's a way of life.

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>What does the patriot way mean to you? Bear? What

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>is this is a hard big jay journalism?

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 2>I know it's not it's not a term, you know,

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 2>it's not really a term that was used in the building, right. Yeah.

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:02.359
<v Speaker 2>For me, it's like never thinking that you're there, never

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>thinking you're even good enough. You always do more like

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>you could be there however long you want and had

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 2>a good day, but there's well I could do all

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 2>these other things, you know, and we'll get to that

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 2>the next day. Always chasing something I don't. I can't

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 2>really name any of the real champion, true patriots that

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 2>cared about credit, you know. No, it was not only

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>just things about like we have to do this, this

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and this, but it's also like, well, we don't need

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.439
<v Speaker 2>to do all these other things, you know, like let's

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 2>focus on what matters, you know what I mean.

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I always tell everyone that, you know, like what

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>everyone in his ass I go. I don't know, Like

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it was accountability, dependability. It was almost being afraid to

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>be the guy totally.

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that fucks up. Yeah, because you didn't want to a.

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Let your teammates down, your coaches down, be be embarrassed

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>about it, right because everyone's putting in the effort, you know.

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>And I always tell everyone else. So you know, Bill

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>had a template and he had his rules, and he

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't really necessarily enforce them. It was the leaders on

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the team that enforced the laws. So like he was

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Congress and the leaders were fucking the sheriffs out there.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 2>We don't make the laws, yeah, we enforce them for them.

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 4>So who would bears be in this in this analogy, I.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Think bears would probably I don't know government terms very well,

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>but where would you be, Bears?

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I'd probably helped make some laws for him and a

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 2>team and the lobbyist. Not really, that's not my nature anyway.

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I make a suggestion and back it up with something.

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 2>They will always listen to anything you have it backed

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:48.000
<v Speaker 2>up with something.

0:41:48.080 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I tell that to everyone too. Yeah, everyone thinks this

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>whole collaborative narrative. Bill will take information from anyone. But

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>if you give him information it's fucked up information. You're

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna be in the god doghouse. You don't want

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to be in that goddamn doghouse. That dog house is

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:08.240
<v Speaker 1>about seventeen miles away.

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I help pass some legislation. I also help enforce it,

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 2>like with support staff, because all the things you just

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 2>said about. Don't want to be the one, don't want

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 2>to be the weak link, don't want to be the

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.320
<v Speaker 2>one to say I fucked that up, which everybody says sometimes.

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Like that applies to the support staff too, because we're

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>all in it together. Like, yeah, it's a massive organization,

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 2>big billion dollar business. But in the end, everyone's on

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 2>top of each other all the time. Like it's very close,

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 2>you know everybody, so you see what they do. There's

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 2>no hiding. Yeah, especially in a football locker room. Man,

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 2>you guys can sense things quickly. What do you mean?

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Like what like, no one who's legit, no one who

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:50.080
<v Speaker 2>we can count on.

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Given stories of any guys coming up to you saying,

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>suggesting or seeing one of these scenarios of being in

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 1>the locker room where guys can just sniff the fear

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>out of someone.

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Right. No, I don't have a specific story on that.

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I just know that you guys are very in tune

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 2>to just human nature and and people were also as

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I say, and you can tell through the sense of

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:16.839
<v Speaker 2>humor too, like it comes out you know what. We're

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>in tune too.

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.240
<v Speaker 1>We're in tune to knowing that anytime we posted anything

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.320
<v Speaker 1>on the internet that we could be getting a call

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>or a knock or a hey, coach will see you,

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 1>or hey, why don't you come over here?

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's true. Now can you take that's true?

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Can you take us through the social media scanning process

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that we had in the.

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get on to social media until like recently,

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years. I started Instagram. So I

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like, I'm not that I'm not out there like

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>scanning the internet. Yeah I can do that, but I'm

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 2>like scanning. I'm not scanning Twitter. Other people are well

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 2>versed in that, so it comes it comes to Bill is.

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Bill is famous for saying I could just be sitting

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 2>at my office mining my own business and stuff comes

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to me. That happened a lot of times with social

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 2>media stuff too, where it would just come to me

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 2>because every everyone knows we want to know, so if

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>they see it, it comes. Let me ask you this though,

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.319
<v Speaker 2>like how many times did you not post something that

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to post constantly? Okay?

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 4>My team, yeah, okay, we lived in fear for ten

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:20.799
<v Speaker 4>years about that. Can we do this, Let's word this

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.319
<v Speaker 4>this way, let's do this. You never want to get

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:24.399
<v Speaker 4>jewels to get the knock because if he got the knock,

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 4>we got the knock.

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and so how did it all turn out? We did? Okay?

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Could have been better, couldn't. We're always chasing man, So

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 2>that's what that's what the next chapter is for.

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 4>He was in talking about this, like scanning for social

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 4>media what players can get do? Was there a level

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 4>of like earning it too? Because we noticed as jewels

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 4>kind of got along, the leash got a little bit

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 4>longer for jewels.

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 2>For Devin, you know.

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 3>For.

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Post a lot. Yeah, he did a post a lot

0:44:55.360 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe his last year or so, but posted about a lot, right,

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:02.239
<v Speaker 2>that's different, man.

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 5>You know you're doing it right.

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Control what you can control. Yeah, some guys did get

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 2>more leash, but most No, you remember the posts that

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 2>we because guys were talking about it.

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>When I told the story about Bill being in the

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>hot tub?

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, did he ever come up to you?

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Did?

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Did he hear this story? Ever?

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Has Bill heard of any of our stories?

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean I can't I honestly I can't remember that

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 2>exact reaction. I'm sure it went something like, what the fuck? Yes,

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>there's no way he absolutely knows that story, right, No

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 2>question that one didn't slip through. Come on, what are

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 2>we doing?

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 5>What are we doing?

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 2>There's a fucking rule. We can't go Nuncle Berry in

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 2>the goddamn hoteb. I don't care if no one's in there. Yeah,

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree.

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>How has that changed over time? Though, like has he got?

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>He's clearly got and a little looser.

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Right with the whole. Maybe shouldn't have snapface. You know

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Bill's you know, I bet you never thought you'd see

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Bill in the media, right, No, wouldn't it be great

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:22.759
<v Speaker 2>if he got on social media at some point snap

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 2>face just asking is he's signing a deal with Snapchat?

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know he's launch snap face right right, No, No,

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna guys, he's gonna own it.

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Check from bears is joining only fans for content, exclusive

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>coaching technique content with his toes dangly now stop it

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>cut that out.

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Serious note by the way, like only fans, it has

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 4>one part of it, but also other stuff. If just posted,

0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 4>if Bill was not only fans, just posted old game

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 4>plans of old games, it would blow up everything and

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 4>be incredible, just purely for the.

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Football junkies, that's the question. But anyway, where were we

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>the threshold of show yeah stuff, No, no, no, no,

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 2>it was the threshold of him loosening up, which I

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 2>think he did. Yeah, maybe we shouldn't have.

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Was there one specific time anyone did something super crazy

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 1>on social that you could specifically remember him Bill, Like

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:32.279
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck are we doing?

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Her bears? Can you go get remember? Uh you remember them? Remembers?

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:40.879
<v Speaker 5>Do I love? Yeah?

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Good great guy, great guy, fun guy, you know, good player.

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Well one it was off season, of course, because you

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 2>know most things happened in the off season. He h.

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 2>He posted him shooting shooting guns in the backyard, like

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:58.839
<v Speaker 2>the backyard, not a range or like the backyard, just

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.839
<v Speaker 2>there's a target there, Like, yeah, that's not what we're

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 2>looking for. The coin of phrase, like it's not what

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:11.720
<v Speaker 2>we're looking for. But he didn't. Only Matt posted that. No,

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 2>this is like you you said, this is a good

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 2>idea to go post. Yea one didn't go well that

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 2>that was a that was a letter in a conduct detrimental.

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Conduct detrimental. You know what conduct detrimental is. That's that's

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 1>that's more.

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:32.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the more serious offense. That's a serious offense. So

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 2>there are different types of categories of discipline. There's being

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 2>related to a meeting, missing a meeting, losing a playbook,

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:48.400
<v Speaker 2>being overweight, and things like that. That's one category, and

0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 2>those have specific finds associated with them that are collectively

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 2>bargained and they go up year by year. Then there's

0:48:55.040 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>another category. Another category called conduct detrimental, which there's no

0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:04.439
<v Speaker 2>set fine amount. It's up to one week's game check,

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 2>and that could be things like disobeying coaches, you know,

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:16.280
<v Speaker 2>being disruptive within the team, firing guns, and posting anything

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 2>that casts the organization in a negative light, such as that.

0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:24.840
<v Speaker 2>There's a long list, speeding in the parking lot, speeding

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:28.399
<v Speaker 2>in the parking lot. Burning something in a hotel room,

0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't care, not a candle, incense, anything, If it burns,

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 2>leave it.

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.360
<v Speaker 5>The fuck out. And you're a noted candlesman.

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>You love your candles, all right, man, you have to

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 2>have to do that somewhere else, not in your hotel.

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 2>You can't do it. The conduct detrimental is more serious

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 2>that then that has to go to the NFL. Has

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.200
<v Speaker 2>that fine letter, has to go to the NFL, has

0:49:52.239 --> 0:49:54.400
<v Speaker 2>to go to the players Association, and you.

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 5>Guys determine the find amount.

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's up to yeah, so there you know.

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Now, how many times did you have to like talk

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Bill off the ledge of conduct detrimentally finding Matt light.

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Not that many, I don't think, Matt. See that's smart, dude.

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 2>A man knows how to take it to the edge.

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:23.279
<v Speaker 2>You know, and it's hard to really go after him.

0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that Matt ever got it.

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:26.839
<v Speaker 1>Was Bill scared to go at Matt Light because of

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the pranks that Matt Light would doodle?

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:30.840
<v Speaker 2>No, no, by scared?

0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you did you hear the email exchange?

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I heard? I heard. He still think Matt doesn't

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 2>believe me. But I didn't have anything to do with that.

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 2>I really didn't. I remember that, I remember the mouse.

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:45.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's pretty good. Pretty good. Got a hundred

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:47.320
<v Speaker 2>other ones in the locker room that I'm sure I

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know about.

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Was there any of those on that episode? The Matt

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Light episode. Everyone you guys got to listen to that

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 1>were tremendous?

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I heard it.

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Was there run any jokes or pranks that he left

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>out that you remember?

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's not. With Matt, there's there is one. Drew

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Drew was He was the godfather of it. I think

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:11.480
<v Speaker 2>that's probably where Matt got it from. Is Drew bluedselling.

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 2>He was legendary for doing stuff quarterbacks. And he's told

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 2>those stories like filling filling Tom's car up with like

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 2>the peanuts, right, you know things. I'm not a big

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 2>practical joke guy. Man, I'm just there to work.

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.160
<v Speaker 1>He's a patriot. There's the patriot way.

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:30.520
<v Speaker 2>He's just there, proud of a baby to work.

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:33.400
<v Speaker 5>Come on, whoopy cushions over here, Come on, let's we

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:33.839
<v Speaker 5>got work there.

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Grab what's going on in staff meeting?

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 1>When Matt light pulls this ship, it's what is like

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Scarnakio saying, like during this whole because you're in those No, I.

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't in a lot. I mean I was in the

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Saturday night night before the game staff meetings and some

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:52.959
<v Speaker 2>off season ones, not the everyday ones when they're talking

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:55.400
<v Speaker 2>to practice film and they gain you know, game plans

0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. They don't need me for those. Man, you

0:51:58.280 --> 0:51:59.839
<v Speaker 2>gotta all other stuff to do.

0:52:00.520 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what kind of action will get a not good?

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Not what we're looking for?

0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.479
<v Speaker 4>So Matt told the story where the it was about

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.640
<v Speaker 4>the email thing where he said something or the buzzer,

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 4>and he said specifically that you said the first thing

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 4>that walked in was not good. So what kind of

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 4>thing we'll elicit a not good from you?

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 2>There's a term believes is a term in football and

0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:25.520
<v Speaker 2>elsewhere it's below the line. You know, if something is

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 2>below the line, then we just can't have it, you know,

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 2>jumping off side, jumping off side, like shocking a damn

0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:37.839
<v Speaker 2>coach at his desk, Like that's just that's below the line.

0:52:39.360 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Every time to have the balls and the audacity to

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking a sneak into the head coach's office. Let's let's

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>put it. Let's paint the picture. This isn't an office

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:51.800
<v Speaker 1>that we all just like, hey, coach, how.

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:53.399
<v Speaker 2>You doing, coach? We don't do that.

0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I went in that office maybe three times, four times

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>in my career. I was there for twelve years, and

0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 1>three of them were like over con track stuff, and

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 1>after that one was suspended like.

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:07.839
<v Speaker 2>That covers it. That covers it.

0:53:07.880 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 1>And so for bat Light to go in there and

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:15.399
<v Speaker 1>have a full beanie of breaking an entry and like.

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 2>It was, you know what, I look at it this way.

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a grind. It's you guys. What you guys do

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 2>is a grind, and like very few people can or

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 2>would even have the mental toughness to go through it.

0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's got their way of getting through it, you know what.

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.960
<v Speaker 2>And that is probably his way it is.

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And I think Bill appreciated guys that did that kind

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of ship. Not he may not have showed it and

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.919
<v Speaker 1>he may have yelled, but like he knew how big

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 1>of a grind it was for us. And it was

0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:51.760
<v Speaker 1>because the guys like that light and the rich Ornbergers

0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and the guys that brought some light.

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Rabel.

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't see. I wasn't you got any good Rabel stories?

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, I'm a well, we'll do that one. I

0:54:02.239 --> 0:54:06.440
<v Speaker 2>have a great it's probably been told. All right, you

0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 2>know what, there's too there's too much. There's too much.

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:13.320
<v Speaker 2>And you know during rookie skits and other joke times

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:16.840
<v Speaker 2>where like we don't need to get into like male

0:54:17.480 --> 0:54:22.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, sexual conversation, Like it's too much like guys.

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why the guys did use that humor,

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:27.640
<v Speaker 2>but the Vrabel thing kind of goes down that pas.

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:28.560
<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna leave that out.

0:54:29.239 --> 0:54:31.400
<v Speaker 1>What was the best rookie skit that you ever remember?

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh? Wow, there's so many good ones. I mean, there

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 2>was a guy going way back to the offensive lineman

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 2>he did it. He did a pretty good Charlie Wise impersonation,

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:45.359
<v Speaker 2>really good. I think it was Dan Stevenson from Notre

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Dame but probably never played. But he could eat butter,

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 2>he could eat but no But back to what you're

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:57.080
<v Speaker 2>saying about Bill, Like I totally agree, Like he knows

0:54:57.239 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 2>that you need more than just like robotic activity all

0:55:01.160 --> 0:55:03.400
<v Speaker 2>day long. Yeah, but he also knows like who he

0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:06.719
<v Speaker 2>is and what his his game is and isn't. So

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:08.400
<v Speaker 2>if he's not, he's not going to go do that.

0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:10.120
<v Speaker 2>But if someone else is going to do it, then

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>now we have it. Yeah, it doesn't need to come

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:16.239
<v Speaker 2>from him, comes from Light or Rabele or you know,

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Dan Stevenson. Dan Stevenson, all right, was a rookie Actually,

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 2>uh no, it wasn't a rookie skip because Bill was

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 2>in it. It was just it was kind of like

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 2>just a team building thing that we broke the team

0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:31.279
<v Speaker 2>up and the coaches and everybody had a role in it,

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and they enacted they reenacted like a Broadway musical and

0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Bill actually sang in this. I remember O number nine

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:47.600
<v Speaker 2>now in front of the team. That was a memorable one.

0:55:47.680 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Not a rookie skip, but it was kind of like

0:55:49.120 --> 0:55:53.640
<v Speaker 2>talent show ish event. So so Bill's got well, what

0:55:53.760 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 2>year was this? It's probably around twenty twenty, maybe this

0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 2>is when? When was this the right before I think

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:04.560
<v Speaker 2>it's probably right Easter?

0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Was this the Jack Easter b thing where instead of

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:08.640
<v Speaker 1>doing rookie skits we all had to like.

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Do between things could have been in there. Yeah, I

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 2>remember that.

0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 4>Where the where is that footage?

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Well something something's wow.

0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Access Oliver's Twists starring Bill Belichick.

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:24.960
<v Speaker 5>It is Broadway debut.

0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back after this quick break. All right,

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:36.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's get back. We're gonna talk about New York. Yeah,

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:41.400
<v Speaker 1>let's let's go back to nineteen ninety seven, September fourteenth.

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:43.760
<v Speaker 1>This is a segment we like to go over pop

0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>culture things around the time the game took place.

0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Number one movie was The Game?

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:49.960
<v Speaker 5>You were this movie?

0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 2>I remember I didn't see. That's a great movie.

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:53.760
<v Speaker 5>Great San Francisco movie too.

0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Great San Francisco movie.

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Honey by Maria Carrey was number one song. We all remember,

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 1>huh Julian favorite.

0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I do love the real heads know your love

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 5>for Mariah Long Island Baby.

0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:08.799
<v Speaker 1>You speaking of music, you used to pick the practice music,

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:09.439
<v Speaker 1>din't you.

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I am a music I'll say I enjoyed that.

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 2>It's hard. It's hard to please a football team because

0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 2>you got a lot of There's so many, so many

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:22.320
<v Speaker 2>times you could listen to here's where you start. I'll

0:57:22.320 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 2>tell you where it actually started. It started with for

0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:28.160
<v Speaker 2>crowd noise. To simulate crowd noise at practice, we just

0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 2>played this is way before you just noise static, just yeah,

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.680
<v Speaker 2>like that was our noise. And it was brutal, brutal.

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:43.640
<v Speaker 2>So then we went to music and it was probably like, oh,

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe O one oh two, and I'm

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 2>playing I'm playing some hip hop song with you know,

0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:55.480
<v Speaker 2>regular lyrics, the lyrics and uh not clean, not clean,

0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 2>and and I'd been doing this and then one day

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:03.480
<v Speaker 2>un pleasant who was a veteran defensive lineman kind of

0:58:03.560 --> 0:58:07.040
<v Speaker 2>like I mean, not quite Matt Slater, but along those

0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 2>lines of Matt Slater of the team at that time,

0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and he went to Bill and he said, like, seriously,

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I do not want to hear some of these words.

0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Of course, build on say anything to me. So play

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 2>it again, Miller practice. But it comes over what after

0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you playing those songs? You know you can't play the

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 2>cleanler Okay. So from then on it was all clean lyrics,

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 2>hip hop, rock, bon Jovi and Springsteen. That's where you start. Yeah,

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe bon Jovi and Springsteen start until you know that

0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 2>gets old ish Bnjovi never gets old. But so then

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<v Speaker 2>we had it in country whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Who who is the number one guy to come up

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>to request music?

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:52.360
<v Speaker 2>You guys?

0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Let me pay the picture for you guys. Bears would

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>be out there like like dip lo. He had the

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 1>man a few big speakers and he had a turntable

0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and you'd see it there with his iPod and ship.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the middle of a practice. Yeah, day, a

0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 1>star of day? What is a rainy? Moss's song was

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 1>always a Friday practice. Every day?

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Star is b It was a jay Z.

0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Every time Bears would throw that on, Rady would look

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 1>at me, go, this is what they played on my birthday?

0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:29.880
<v Speaker 2>The Moss Man. I love them. I love that guy stories.

0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:32.959
<v Speaker 2>I got some Moss stories. But you know what, who

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:36.560
<v Speaker 2>was it? Steve CASCALSI he was. He was adamant about

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:40.320
<v Speaker 2>some songs now Christmas specific, Christmas song specific.

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<v Speaker 5>He was, Wait while we're on music, can I butt

0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 5>in here real quick? Bears? I was creeping on your

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:48.400
<v Speaker 5>Instagram before this, just to do my due diligence and prep.

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<v Speaker 5>How the heck was the Dead at the Sphere?

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<v Speaker 2>I was sous best show I've ever seen it. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean show I've been I mean I've been a dead

0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 2>fan a long time. They love their music. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it just for for me all that, it just works.

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw them here Fenway last year. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was great, and they that was the last tour,

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<v Speaker 2>that was it. And then here they are residency at

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<v Speaker 2>the Sphere and I was like, I gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So just it really no dates work, So I just

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<v Speaker 2>made the date work. Memorial Day. I was going alone,

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<v Speaker 2>but then I found a guy came with me and

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<v Speaker 2>we went and it was just it was incredible. Just

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<v Speaker 2>it's like an Imax. You've been in an Imax theater,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's that times one hundred. Yeah, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>It looked incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's mayor, I mean John Mayer's he's the tragician.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's jump into the game, Jack, can you

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<v Speaker 1>set the stage for the New York Football Jets.

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<v Speaker 5>Got to start out with the Jets. This is the

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<v Speaker 5>first year of the Big Tuna era Big tun which

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<v Speaker 5>is pretty crazy, and the first year of the Bears

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<v Speaker 5>era and the first year of the Bears right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually no, I started at the Jets mid season

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety five. Okay, I was I know it was

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<v Speaker 2>before I was before this this actual regime came in,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great for me. It was awesome because to

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<v Speaker 2>go back one step further, I started at the Knicks

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<v Speaker 2>as an intern total slap you know, in the ninety

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<v Speaker 2>four season, okay, and media relations. It was a media

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<v Speaker 2>relations intern, and it was awesome. Like I'm from New York. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in in the end. I mean, I'm Bostonian now,

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<v Speaker 2>but in my heart, I'm a New Yorker and New

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<v Speaker 2>York the New York sports scene is where this all

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<v Speaker 2>started for me. And when the Knicks are going like

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<v Speaker 2>they were going pretty good this year, like there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>like it in New York City. So I was with

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<v Speaker 2>the Knicks when they were going pat Riley, Patrick Ewing,

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<v Speaker 2>all these guys that they show now, John Starr, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I could name the whole team. So anyway, I started then,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was at the Knicks for a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years and that's when Van Gundia, but I wasn't full time.

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<v Speaker 2>That led to a job at the Jets in media

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<v Speaker 2>relations because the organizations knew each other. Whatever one thing

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<v Speaker 2>lent to another. Now I'm at the Jets, but I

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<v Speaker 2>continued working at the Knicks just on game days, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was amazing. Like I sat there, like at the

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<v Speaker 2>door where the celebrities and the media came in and

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<v Speaker 2>handed out credentials to tickets to like whoever it was,

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<v Speaker 2>and just like now, like there were some notable people

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<v Speaker 2>coming through there, media, Spike. Actually Spike, he was a

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<v Speaker 2>season ticket holder, so he had his tickets, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was the people that would come just for the game

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, need their ticket rules, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen A. Smith when he was a writer, a basketball

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<v Speaker 2>writer at the Philadelphia Choir. You know, like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people that you know, kind of moved up like

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<v Speaker 2>all of us, you know, they were something else in

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<v Speaker 2>the mid nineties. So the Knicks is and the Knicks

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<v Speaker 2>were very corporate, the very corporate organization owned by Viacom

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<v Speaker 2>and now Cable Vision, and it was an office building

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<v Speaker 2>in New York City. It was amazing. I took the

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<v Speaker 2>train in from Long Island every day. And so now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm at the Jets and it's very different. The Jets

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<v Speaker 2>were I own by a family, Leon Hess of hess Oil,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a family not even a family run organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Because he wasn't around that much. He was around a

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<v Speaker 2>couple times a year, so it was really kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a mom and pop type of organization. And I'll

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<v Speaker 2>jump ahead and down. The Patriots are a mix of

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<v Speaker 2>both run like a business, no question and killing it

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<v Speaker 2>as a business, but family run thin at the top.

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<v Speaker 2>So my first two jobs was kind of like both

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<v Speaker 2>ends of that. The Patriots kind of mixed it all together.

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<v Speaker 2>But I started the Jets midway through the ninety five season.

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<v Speaker 2>Team was horrendous. As much good fortune as I've had

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<v Speaker 2>in football, it didn't start that way. Three and thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>my first year, one in fifteen the second year. So

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<v Speaker 2>four and twenty eight is the first two years as

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<v Speaker 2>this is not what I remember at the Knicks, and

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<v Speaker 2>then here comes the new regime. Now Bill Parcells from

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, a New York Ey like all the way

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<v Speaker 2>baseball fan, like New York Giants like baseball fan, Knicks fans.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a little connection on that won Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 2>at the Giants, and just a New York guy. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was like welcomed, beloved in New York. And you

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<v Speaker 2>could tell right away like this is gonna this is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a totally different deal. Like if there's things

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<v Speaker 2>are a little loose. Well, we're going opposite, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just him hard nos tough in your face like

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<v Speaker 2>no bs guy like Bill Belichick, pat Riley, Bill O'Brien,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that that was the new kind of vibe

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<v Speaker 2>around the team, and there were some good players. It's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, I mean, not quite as good, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little like the Patriots when Bill Belichick got there,

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<v Speaker 2>where there are great players in place, but just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't quite gotten to where there were a few years before.

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<v Speaker 2>Jets had some good players now. To me, like I

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<v Speaker 2>think about this stuff like the history of rivalry, like

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in New York and like the Yankees

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<v Speaker 2>and the Red Sox in the old days the seventies

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<v Speaker 2>and the eighties when they're brawling like legit brawls and

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<v Speaker 2>games Thurman Munks and Carlton Fisk and like Bruins Rangers

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<v Speaker 2>fighting fans in the stands, like there was some serious

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<v Speaker 2>rivalries going on. But this this one took it like

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<v Speaker 2>to a different level because it wasn't as much on

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<v Speaker 2>the field. It was like the off the field stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>the off field drama with coaches and front office and

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<v Speaker 2>players switching teams and the whole New York Boston rivalry

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<v Speaker 2>and even at that time, and I know this because

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of them. I grew up in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>went to school in Boston, College in Boston. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of that going on in that eighties nineties

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<v Speaker 2>where there was an influx of young people from New

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<v Speaker 2>York going to college in Boston. That brought a whole

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<v Speaker 2>new kind of aspect to it of the rivalry, and

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<v Speaker 2>then this game was kind of took it to the

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<v Speaker 2>next level.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's like I was trying to think of any

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<v Speaker 5>like how to equate it to a modern sort of

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<v Speaker 5>rivalry and just can't. Like with the coaching changes of

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<v Speaker 5>the players, change of the back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like Andy Reid going to the Raiders it's keep

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<v Speaker 2>right and they're being messy on his way out with

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs, and then the best player then Mahomes having

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just a quick little this is one thing

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<v Speaker 2>with Curtis Martin, he's on the Patriots. It's like that

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<v Speaker 2>three years or two or three years, you know, good play,

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<v Speaker 2>very productive player, had some injuries. You know, if there

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<v Speaker 2>was a there was a contract aspect going on where

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots going to sign them where they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to sign them. So Parcells love Curtis Martin from his

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<v Speaker 2>time at the Patriots, so he signs Curtis. He was

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<v Speaker 2>restricted free agent. He signs him to an offer sheet

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<v Speaker 2>to come to the Jets. Okay, in this offer sheet,

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<v Speaker 2>it says that Curtis Martin has to be the highest

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<v Speaker 2>paid player on a team. I can't do this now,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Patriots couldn't match that because blood Cell was

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<v Speaker 2>there and he was you know, the Patriot didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>an established quarterback. It was Neil O'Donnell, the old from

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<v Speaker 2>the old regiam Is Glenn Foley Boston College, so they

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<v Speaker 2>could do that. That is since that's also one of

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<v Speaker 2>the many rules that have come up probably out of

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<v Speaker 2>this rivalry as well, is that that poison pill for

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<v Speaker 2>in the contract that you can't do that anymore. So

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<v Speaker 2>he went. So Curtis Martin ended up going to the

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<v Speaker 2>to the Jets, having a Hall of Fame career. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's just one thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this game that we're covering is his highest rushing.

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<v Speaker 2>Touchdown, right. I think he had like seven carries on

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<v Speaker 2>the game winning drive in overtime in this game, like

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<v Speaker 2>the you know Patriots had a really good team. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you one more. Who's on the sideline in

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<v Speaker 2>this game for the Patriots. Pete Carroll's the head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Turned out to be quite a I mean good higher

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<v Speaker 2>then and he's you know, National Championship of College super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl on the end. So great coach who a few

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<v Speaker 2>years before head coach of the Jets for one year.

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<v Speaker 2>They fired him after one year. So Pete Carroll was

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<v Speaker 2>the head coach of the Jets. Yeah, people don't really

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that as much in this game, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know there's another one.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'd love your because I didn't realize that you

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<v Speaker 4>were in the Jets organization before Parcels came in. What

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<v Speaker 4>was the vibe, the buzz, what was going on from

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<v Speaker 4>the Jets perspective when Parcels started the rmblings of potentially

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<v Speaker 4>joining the Jets while he was under contract with the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>From what I recall, it was, if you can get Parcels,

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<v Speaker 2>you get Parcels. Now, remember the team is four and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight, so if it wasn't Parcels, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>could have been somebody else coming in. You know as

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<v Speaker 2>a new head coach anyway. But if you get Parcels

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<v Speaker 2>that instant credibility right away and whatever he wants he

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<v Speaker 2>gets and he was gonna do and you're gonna get better.

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<v Speaker 2>Team was in the NFC championship game the next year,

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<v Speaker 2>twelve and four season. But yeah, that game, the Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>were good, the Jets were not good. So the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>was all on the Patriots. You gotta win this game.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't let this guy leave the way he left

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<v Speaker 2>and come back Week three, National TV, Patriots are two

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<v Speaker 2>and zero and win like that would have been disastrous.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Patriots had to win that game and barely did.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they were a better team, but took a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of body blows on the way. It's like Rocky one,

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<v Speaker 2>Rocky Rocky won, Apollo wins, but a lot was that

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<v Speaker 2>week of practice and prep. How was that week in

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<v Speaker 2>New York? In New York it wasn't nearly what it

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<v Speaker 2>was I think up here, because you like all the

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<v Speaker 2>information was there like newspaper and you know, the radio

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<v Speaker 2>like that was it. You could tell like up here

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<v Speaker 2>it meant everything down there was like the team's just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of getting started here try and try not to

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<v Speaker 2>piss him off, I personally, because I was into this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like I wanted to win. I wanted to win it

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<v Speaker 2>for him because I knew it was a big deal

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<v Speaker 2>for that. But within the team, I think they could

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<v Speaker 2>sense it. You know, once theuses are getting pelted, Like

1:10:01.200 --> 1:10:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the Jets buses didn't get pelted very much at one

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<v Speaker 2>and fifteen, like one of fifteen, busy get pelted.

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<v Speaker 5>Nine and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>You're getting pelted though ninety seven this year.

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<v Speaker 5>This year, big what a turn I mean, incredible turnaround

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<v Speaker 5>in one year go to one in fifteen and nine

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<v Speaker 5>and seven is just.

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<v Speaker 2>Notice, yeah, and right on the edge, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>right on the edge of the playoffs.

1:10:22.280 --> 1:10:24.040
<v Speaker 4>So something that kind of gets lost here a little

1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:26.919
<v Speaker 4>bit because there's a couple of times with coaching intrigue

1:10:26.920 --> 1:10:28.720
<v Speaker 4>back and forth between the Jets and the Patriots. Is

1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:32.559
<v Speaker 4>during this time here, coach Belichick was named head coach

1:10:32.640 --> 1:10:38.080
<v Speaker 4>for like six days, right and coach Parcels was coaching consultant.

1:10:38.920 --> 1:10:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Even that was uh, you know during those times, the

1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:44.360
<v Speaker 2>policies and the rules like it was a lot different

1:10:44.400 --> 1:10:46.440
<v Speaker 2>than it is now. There are a lot of loopholes

1:10:46.479 --> 1:10:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and gray areas, and you know, they were operated in.

1:10:51.200 --> 1:10:53.120
<v Speaker 2>But even that one was too far and the league

1:10:53.120 --> 1:10:55.799
<v Speaker 2>stepped in and had to broker a deal. They couldn't

1:10:55.800 --> 1:10:58.760
<v Speaker 2>just you know, let them be there as a consultant, mister.

1:10:59.680 --> 1:11:03.320
<v Speaker 2>That the staff started getting built, like Bill Belichick was

1:11:03.360 --> 1:11:06.200
<v Speaker 2>the head coach and Scott Peoli was hired and Mike

1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Tannebaum and things were kind of like set up. How

1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:12.679
<v Speaker 2>much Bill Parcells was, you know, involved, I'm not really sure,

1:11:13.320 --> 1:11:15.519
<v Speaker 2>but back the fact that Scott Peoly was brought in

1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:18.040
<v Speaker 2>and he was a Bill Belichick guy, means that Bill

1:11:18.080 --> 1:11:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Belichick was making some decisions. Scott didn't have any connection

1:11:20.920 --> 1:11:24.519
<v Speaker 2>with Parcels who brought in Charlie he came. That was

1:11:24.920 --> 1:11:26.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a good question. I don't remember the timing of

1:11:26.920 --> 1:11:29.680
<v Speaker 2>that because he was on Parcels staff. He was never

1:11:29.760 --> 1:11:32.240
<v Speaker 2>on Bill's. They were they were friends and they were close.

1:11:32.400 --> 1:11:34.160
<v Speaker 2>It was probably Parcels.

1:11:34.400 --> 1:11:39.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a little bit of the Patriot's Dynasty brain trust

1:11:39.520 --> 1:11:42.760
<v Speaker 4>inner circle was developed on this Jets team. Can you

1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:45.639
<v Speaker 4>speak a little bit to that. You mentioned Peoli, Mangini yourself.

1:11:45.680 --> 1:11:47.479
<v Speaker 4>Can you just talk about how that kind of happened

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<v Speaker 4>in New York?

1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:52.320
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, Scott with Scott Pioli in particular, he goes

1:11:52.400 --> 1:11:56.360
<v Speaker 2>back to Cleveland for several years with Bill Belichick. So

1:11:56.520 --> 1:11:59.040
<v Speaker 2>they had already like they had already been involved with

1:11:59.360 --> 1:12:03.559
<v Speaker 2>building a team team together and Mike Tannebaum came kind

1:12:03.560 --> 1:12:05.840
<v Speaker 2>of on the tail end of that. So they they

1:12:05.840 --> 1:12:09.400
<v Speaker 2>already had a working relationship. They had already done it

1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:11.640
<v Speaker 2>at an organization, and then they took that to the

1:12:11.720 --> 1:12:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Jets and then add parcels and it and then went

1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:19.320
<v Speaker 2>from there. So a lot of this actually goes back

1:12:19.320 --> 1:12:22.720
<v Speaker 2>to Cleveland too, with Bill Belichick and Scott, you know,

1:12:22.800 --> 1:12:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and Mike and Eric too. He's definitely in part of this.

1:12:27.160 --> 1:12:29.280
<v Speaker 4>And what was your process to kind of because you

1:12:29.320 --> 1:12:31.120
<v Speaker 4>were with the district before, to kind of get inside.

1:12:31.560 --> 1:12:34.360
<v Speaker 2>So like I said, like I was in media relations, okay,

1:12:34.720 --> 1:12:37.440
<v Speaker 2>And if you're in media relations and in the department

1:12:37.479 --> 1:12:41.680
<v Speaker 2>of five year five, you don't have natural crossover with

1:12:41.840 --> 1:12:45.480
<v Speaker 2>the defensive coordinator assistant head coach Bill Belichick like that

1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:49.400
<v Speaker 2>that something has to happen. What happened was and it's

1:12:49.439 --> 1:12:53.200
<v Speaker 2>actually a story that I tell people and my kids about.

1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:56.000
<v Speaker 2>You never know. So when I was at the Jets

1:12:56.439 --> 1:13:00.080
<v Speaker 2>in the previous regime, one of my jobs was to

1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:03.680
<v Speaker 2>work with the radio broadcast crew during the game and

1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:06.439
<v Speaker 2>right down stats like things that happened. Like they didn't

1:13:06.479 --> 1:13:10.120
<v Speaker 2>have all these great instantaneous things you'd have to maybe

1:13:10.120 --> 1:13:11.680
<v Speaker 2>for TV, but not for radio. So I did a

1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:13.519
<v Speaker 2>lot of things by hand, and I would like give

1:13:13.560 --> 1:13:17.240
<v Speaker 2>notes to the announcers. One of the announcers, the analyst

1:13:17.400 --> 1:13:20.679
<v Speaker 2>was Dave Jennings. About the name of Dave Jennings. He's

1:13:20.720 --> 1:13:23.720
<v Speaker 2>a great guy, passed away way too early. He was

1:13:24.040 --> 1:13:28.040
<v Speaker 2>a great punter for the New York Giants in the

1:13:28.120 --> 1:13:32.840
<v Speaker 2>late seventies early eighties. Like Giants weren't very good, he

1:13:32.880 --> 1:13:34.240
<v Speaker 2>was the at times he was the best player in

1:13:34.280 --> 1:13:36.800
<v Speaker 2>a team. But he was a Pro Bowl punter. And

1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Bill coached him when he was he coached special teams

1:13:39.640 --> 1:13:42.320
<v Speaker 2>at the Giants. I don't know this. I don't know

1:13:42.320 --> 1:13:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick, but Dave was a radio analyst like the

1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Scott Zolac Okay of the Jets, and he was a Giant.

1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:54.679
<v Speaker 2>And in New York, people are very passionate about their sports,

1:13:54.720 --> 1:13:58.080
<v Speaker 2>just like Boston, very passionate. But in New York there's

1:13:58.160 --> 1:14:01.480
<v Speaker 2>most two teams for every sport. So yeah, you got rivalries,

1:14:01.479 --> 1:14:03.639
<v Speaker 2>you got Yankees Red Sox, but you got it, also

1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:07.720
<v Speaker 2>got Yankees Mets. You know, there's a lot of tension there.

1:14:07.880 --> 1:14:13.439
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, absolutely, so the Giants and the Jets like

1:14:14.280 --> 1:14:16.720
<v Speaker 2>their enemies, and it went up at that time. I

1:14:16.760 --> 1:14:18.320
<v Speaker 2>don't know what it's like now, but at that time

1:14:18.760 --> 1:14:21.000
<v Speaker 2>it was a front office thing too. Like the Jet

1:14:21.000 --> 1:14:23.599
<v Speaker 2>people didn't really like the Giant people. So here's Dave

1:14:23.680 --> 1:14:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Jennings known as a Giants player, even though he played

1:14:26.240 --> 1:14:27.960
<v Speaker 2>the Jets a couple of years at the end of

1:14:27.520 --> 1:14:30.400
<v Speaker 2>his career. But he was a Giant and here but

1:14:30.439 --> 1:14:33.280
<v Speaker 2>he's a Jet color guy on the radio, and he

1:14:33.400 --> 1:14:35.040
<v Speaker 2>was blunt. He would tell it like it is. He

1:14:35.080 --> 1:14:37.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't sugarcoat anything. He would hammer the team. He'd hammer

1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:39.160
<v Speaker 2>the team when he went on the radio just as

1:14:39.200 --> 1:14:41.559
<v Speaker 2>a guest. And they didn't like him very much. But

1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:43.880
<v Speaker 2>what do I know, Like, I'm twenty something years old,

1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm there, I'm at practice, I'm talking to them. I

1:14:45.760 --> 1:14:49.200
<v Speaker 2>like the guy. So he became friends. Well. A few

1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:53.840
<v Speaker 2>years later, incomes the new regime. Incomes Bill Belichick as

1:14:53.880 --> 1:14:56.479
<v Speaker 2>part of the new regime. Dave Jennings introduces me to

1:14:56.520 --> 1:14:59.479
<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick because their friends from back of the Giants

1:15:00.120 --> 1:15:02.680
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of where it got started. And you know,

1:15:02.880 --> 1:15:06.479
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of in that little circle of Bill,

1:15:06.800 --> 1:15:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Scott Pioli, like Tanne Beum, Eric Mangini and that that

1:15:11.160 --> 1:15:13.400
<v Speaker 2>was kind of it. So that's how it kind of

1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:16.840
<v Speaker 2>got started. So the relationships which you know all about

1:15:17.960 --> 1:15:20.320
<v Speaker 2>do I, Yeah, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that, like, yeah, that was were they a close

1:15:23.960 --> 1:15:29.720
<v Speaker 1>knit group that whole little eventual Patriot coaching staff, Like

1:15:30.600 --> 1:15:33.080
<v Speaker 1>in the cafeteria where those guys al We's sitting next

1:15:33.120 --> 1:15:37.240
<v Speaker 1>to each other like talking and was at their rat pack.

1:15:37.560 --> 1:15:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it would be yeah, go out, you know, not

1:15:41.160 --> 1:15:43.080
<v Speaker 2>do that so much anymore, but it would be like,

1:15:43.120 --> 1:15:46.360
<v Speaker 2>go out somewhere. We went to the Belmont together. It

1:15:46.400 --> 1:15:48.120
<v Speaker 2>was the end of it was the end of mini camp.

1:15:48.120 --> 1:15:50.400
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty funny. It's the end of mini camp. Was

1:15:50.439 --> 1:15:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the last practice and then we get in the car

1:15:54.320 --> 1:15:56.720
<v Speaker 2>and go to the Belmont, fill up the trunk with

1:15:57.080 --> 1:16:01.200
<v Speaker 2>some beverages, get there. Bill's drive in. Bill's driving. We

1:16:01.240 --> 1:16:03.360
<v Speaker 2>pull in and it's a mess, like we don't have passes.

1:16:03.479 --> 1:16:06.439
<v Speaker 2>We're just kind of driving in and we got stopped there.

1:16:06.439 --> 1:16:08.519
<v Speaker 2>We're just trying to park and the guy's like, you

1:16:08.600 --> 1:16:11.400
<v Speaker 2>can't go here, and Bill points over. That's Eric Mangini.

1:16:11.680 --> 1:16:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Let us in say, nobody doesn't know who says Bill's

1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:19.120
<v Speaker 2>not funny.

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<v Speaker 4>We also there was a very limited media on you

1:16:22.600 --> 1:16:24.559
<v Speaker 4>when we're doing some research, but we found an article

1:16:24.640 --> 1:16:28.760
<v Speaker 4>from two thousand drove up that skip ahead a little

1:16:28.800 --> 1:16:31.880
<v Speaker 4>bit that when the Patriots or when Bill moved to

1:16:31.880 --> 1:16:34.719
<v Speaker 4>the Patriots, you guys all drove together from New Jersey

1:16:34.720 --> 1:16:35.480
<v Speaker 4>to Foxborough.

1:16:35.920 --> 1:16:41.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was it was Bill driving me and Eric.

1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:44.519
<v Speaker 2>That was that was a group that came up. What

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<v Speaker 2>kind of car by station wagon? I bet it is

1:16:47.880 --> 1:16:49.000
<v Speaker 2>a Bill station wagon?

1:16:49.040 --> 1:16:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's Bill did have that station wagon that

1:16:51.640 --> 1:16:55.799
<v Speaker 1>he was driving in that ninety five Brown's footage.

1:16:56.240 --> 1:16:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Was it a station what's.

1:16:58.520 --> 1:17:00.400
<v Speaker 4>The conversation like that, It's like, oh, we want to

1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:02.880
<v Speaker 4>do this. Is it already in work mode thinking about

1:17:02.880 --> 1:17:04.280
<v Speaker 4>what to do when you get to New England or

1:17:04.320 --> 1:17:05.920
<v Speaker 4>is it just like, hey, we should stop at this

1:17:06.000 --> 1:17:07.880
<v Speaker 4>last deli that's the last New York della.

1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably there's probably some of that, and it was

1:17:10.080 --> 1:17:11.800
<v Speaker 2>probably just how the how's this day going to go?

1:17:11.880 --> 1:17:14.559
<v Speaker 2>With the press conference and you know, just what's happening

1:17:14.720 --> 1:17:18.439
<v Speaker 2>in the next immediate hours and day. That was two thousand.

1:17:18.680 --> 1:17:20.800
<v Speaker 2>You know the three people who started the Patriots in

1:17:20.840 --> 1:17:23.960
<v Speaker 2>two thousand, three people. I mean there's more than three people.

1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:27.080
<v Speaker 2>But the what in the year two thousand. It was

1:17:27.080 --> 1:17:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Bill's first year, It's Tom's first year, and my first year. Man,

1:17:31.479 --> 1:17:32.559
<v Speaker 2>that's a pretty good company.

1:17:32.600 --> 1:17:33.320
<v Speaker 5>Talk about a trio.

1:17:33.400 --> 1:17:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, I kid, I kid, Come on, man, Ernie,

1:17:38.600 --> 1:17:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Ernie came back.

1:17:39.800 --> 1:17:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Ernie did too. Yeah, after killing it out there in

1:17:43.040 --> 1:17:45.400
<v Speaker 2>the business world. We won't get into that.

1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:47.920
<v Speaker 5>He got We're gonna get stocktcks out him one of

1:17:47.960 --> 1:17:50.240
<v Speaker 5>these days. Yeah, we were getting the good luck.

1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:54.280
<v Speaker 4>Let's jets real quick. Let's do Pats real quick.

1:17:54.479 --> 1:17:57.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, run through these these Jets real quick. As

1:17:58.000 --> 1:18:00.960
<v Speaker 5>we said, nine and seven narrowly missed the plays. Huge

1:18:01.000 --> 1:18:03.839
<v Speaker 5>turnaround from the year before one in fifteen, mo Lewis

1:18:04.160 --> 1:18:06.960
<v Speaker 5>We all know Lewis the loan pro bowler this season,

1:18:07.200 --> 1:18:08.920
<v Speaker 5>this was the first winning season for the Jets since

1:18:08.920 --> 1:18:11.880
<v Speaker 5>eighty eight. So, I mean, Bill Parcells came in and

1:18:11.880 --> 1:18:15.080
<v Speaker 5>it made that immediate one year, one year, the tuner

1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:16.439
<v Speaker 5>knew how to turn things around, and.

1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:17.960
<v Speaker 4>We did the same thing with the Patriots. Took him

1:18:17.960 --> 1:18:18.760
<v Speaker 4>to the Super Bowl like that.

1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:21.000
<v Speaker 5>This was one year. It was one year after Kishawn

1:18:21.080 --> 1:18:23.840
<v Speaker 5>was drafted number one overall in the ninety six draft.

1:18:24.040 --> 1:18:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Good great guy, good friend of mine. Didn't you work

1:18:27.120 --> 1:18:29.439
<v Speaker 2>with him? Yeah, he was the first pick in a

1:18:29.520 --> 1:18:31.960
<v Speaker 2>draft and he came like in ninety six and the

1:18:31.960 --> 1:18:33.439
<v Speaker 2>first thing he did is come to my office and

1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:35.680
<v Speaker 2>we just kind of hit it off right away. La

1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:37.920
<v Speaker 2>guy had some of our Mantian friends.

1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:40.240
<v Speaker 4>Hey, yeah, getting into its in this game too.

1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:42.920
<v Speaker 2>He did had a great touchdown and mo Lewis had

1:18:42.920 --> 1:18:47.879
<v Speaker 2>a touchdown. They forgotten what lewis patriot moment. He was all,

1:18:47.920 --> 1:18:50.160
<v Speaker 2>he's doing the interception for a touchdown.

1:18:50.600 --> 1:18:51.080
<v Speaker 5>It's crazy.

1:18:51.280 --> 1:18:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Which he outran Sean Jefferson had the wheels, baby had

1:18:55.520 --> 1:18:56.080
<v Speaker 2>the wheels.

1:18:56.720 --> 1:18:58.800
<v Speaker 5>And if we were and we're talking this Jets roster,

1:18:59.200 --> 1:19:01.960
<v Speaker 5>we've mentioned these games. We've mentioned the Neil O'donnald's. We

1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:03.760
<v Speaker 5>got Adrian Morrell, I mean he carried the ball three

1:19:03.800 --> 1:19:08.320
<v Speaker 5>hundred times, the Godfather. You took the words right out

1:19:08.320 --> 1:19:08.800
<v Speaker 5>of my mouth.

1:19:09.200 --> 1:19:11.920
<v Speaker 4>Him Jules have a similar place style. I've been told, Yeah,

1:19:11.960 --> 1:19:12.599
<v Speaker 4>we're both white.

1:19:13.880 --> 1:19:18.040
<v Speaker 2>More than that. And go look up the photo of you.

1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:20.719
<v Speaker 2>What are the similarities of our game?

1:19:21.200 --> 1:19:24.439
<v Speaker 5>Get open and catch the ball, simple as that, get

1:19:24.479 --> 1:19:26.120
<v Speaker 5>open and catch the ball, simple as that.

1:19:26.439 --> 1:19:28.320
<v Speaker 4>Should we roll on the real quick?

1:19:28.520 --> 1:19:30.759
<v Speaker 5>This was the ten and six Patriots seem pretty loaded

1:19:30.840 --> 1:19:33.000
<v Speaker 5>roster on both sides of the ball. We mentioned it

1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:35.639
<v Speaker 5>before then. There are even some names that carried over

1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:38.400
<v Speaker 5>into the Belichick era that you guys would know, the

1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:42.519
<v Speaker 5>Willie McGinnis, the Tie Laws, the lawyer Malloy's of the world.

1:19:42.840 --> 1:19:45.920
<v Speaker 5>Scott Zolac was backing up Bledsoe this year. It was

1:19:45.960 --> 1:19:47.880
<v Speaker 5>the first Troy Brown first year.

1:19:49.040 --> 1:19:53.000
<v Speaker 2>The can of the Jets, love so love soo. You

1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:55.400
<v Speaker 2>know has a fake I is that the rumor?

1:19:55.880 --> 1:19:59.160
<v Speaker 5>I think? I think there. I don't know exactly he's

1:19:59.160 --> 1:20:02.200
<v Speaker 5>got a I don't know exactly what you.

1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Got to ask him.

1:20:05.400 --> 1:20:06.800
<v Speaker 4>Had an incredible touchdown.

1:20:06.400 --> 1:20:08.080
<v Speaker 1>In this It'd be pretty incredible if he was an

1:20:08.160 --> 1:20:13.200
<v Speaker 1>NFL quarterback with one eye. Debt per section go ahead.

1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:15.680
<v Speaker 5>This was the first year of the Pete Carroll era,

1:20:15.760 --> 1:20:18.360
<v Speaker 5>as we mentioned, uh. This was Bledsoe's fifth year in

1:20:18.400 --> 1:20:22.120
<v Speaker 5>the NFL, so already pretty established in there, played under

1:20:22.120 --> 1:20:24.920
<v Speaker 5>Parcels all those years and they kind of butted heads

1:20:24.920 --> 1:20:27.080
<v Speaker 5>a little bit, is that right? Burge a little.

1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Parcels Bill and Bledsoe, I think, I mean I wasn't here.

1:20:30.360 --> 1:20:31.559
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, I got.

1:20:31.880 --> 1:20:34.400
<v Speaker 2>I've heard yeah, okay, And he does that with all

1:20:34.400 --> 1:20:36.000
<v Speaker 2>this the same thing with Phil Simms.

1:20:36.080 --> 1:20:38.679
<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, we've Phil was on here telling the stories.

1:20:39.320 --> 1:20:41.080
<v Speaker 5>The plane ticket is in the drawer.

1:20:44.320 --> 1:20:46.200
<v Speaker 4>I think, just audience think the big takeaway from this

1:20:46.240 --> 1:20:49.599
<v Speaker 4>Patriots team is that talking about this Parcels Belichick Jets

1:20:49.640 --> 1:20:52.160
<v Speaker 4>Patriots kind of back and forth, that this Patriots team

1:20:52.200 --> 1:20:55.240
<v Speaker 4>the core was really kind of a Parcels left over

1:20:55.520 --> 1:20:57.840
<v Speaker 4>that became the Belichick pick up for the early part

1:20:57.840 --> 1:20:59.880
<v Speaker 4>of the dynasty in the Patriots organization.

1:21:00.280 --> 1:21:03.240
<v Speaker 5>And this was to say, yeah, for sure, and two

1:21:03.240 --> 1:21:05.080
<v Speaker 5>more points we got to hit before we move on.

1:21:05.360 --> 1:21:08.519
<v Speaker 5>Coming off of lost in Super Bowl thirty one, we

1:21:08.560 --> 1:21:11.040
<v Speaker 5>lost to the Packers Terry Glenn's second year in the

1:21:11.120 --> 1:21:15.480
<v Speaker 5>NFL two and lost in the division around of Pittsburgh

1:21:16.200 --> 1:21:18.519
<v Speaker 5>to another coach with another good name, the chin baby,

1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:20.759
<v Speaker 5>Bill Cower, Bill Coward.

1:21:20.880 --> 1:21:23.960
<v Speaker 4>We kind of already covered the Parcels exit already, so

1:21:23.960 --> 1:21:26.880
<v Speaker 4>we can kind of we dig some some research on

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<v Speaker 4>the compensation for the draft picks back and forth, no

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<v Speaker 4>one really of note to really mention, so just kind

1:21:32.400 --> 1:21:34.320
<v Speaker 4>of that the League stepped in. There was some back

1:21:34.320 --> 1:21:36.400
<v Speaker 4>and forth. Parcels was pretty much out the door before

1:21:36.439 --> 1:21:38.680
<v Speaker 4>while the Patriots were playing in the Super Bowl. Some

1:21:38.800 --> 1:21:41.920
<v Speaker 4>intrigues and back and forth. We mentioned the consultation, the consultant,

1:21:41.920 --> 1:21:44.679
<v Speaker 4>the head coach of Belichick and then led us into

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<v Speaker 4>this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Our memories coming back up.

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<v Speaker 1>Parcels like, so, what is the first thing, what's that

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<v Speaker 1>first memory of Coach Parcels after working with him for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your five games, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is like my first memory of him period.

1:22:01.120 --> 1:22:03.240
<v Speaker 2>My interaction with him was maybe like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably like a couple of months into his time

1:22:06.280 --> 1:22:09.519
<v Speaker 2>at the Jets, and like, I don't really have anything

1:22:09.600 --> 1:22:10.880
<v Speaker 2>to do with him. We had a head of media

1:22:10.880 --> 1:22:13.519
<v Speaker 2>relations and someone else. But I got called up to

1:22:13.600 --> 1:22:16.160
<v Speaker 2>his office. The coach wants to see you. So okay,

1:22:16.720 --> 1:22:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I go up there and walk in and he goes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he said something about the Knicks because he like,

1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:23.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's always had let's say, that's one of

1:22:23.439 --> 1:22:25.720
<v Speaker 2>the things about Parcelsy. He has something with everybody, like

1:22:25.800 --> 1:22:27.840
<v Speaker 2>a little connection to kind of break the ice or

1:22:27.880 --> 1:22:30.400
<v Speaker 2>have a little personal rapport. So that was that was

1:22:30.479 --> 1:22:31.960
<v Speaker 2>it with me. But then he said, you see this,

1:22:32.360 --> 1:22:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and he takes out this laminated piece of paper. The

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<v Speaker 2>NFL schedule for next season had just come out, so

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<v Speaker 2>all the games are listed for each week, but on paper.

1:22:41.439 --> 1:22:44.240
<v Speaker 2>So he had this one sheet and on one side

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<v Speaker 2>it was week one, Week two, Week three, and then

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<v Speaker 2>on the top it was all the teams at l

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<v Speaker 2>ar z c AR all the way down and then

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<v Speaker 2>in each box and there was a grid of two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty six games. Who's playing, who, the time

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<v Speaker 2>of the game, and where it was in the day,

1:23:00.560 --> 1:23:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Like if it was not a Sunday, if it was Monday,

1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>you put m o wan ivers a Thursday. T So

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<v Speaker 2>can you do this? Okay, I'll do it and walk

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<v Speaker 2>out and there's a lot of information. But so and

1:23:10.040 --> 1:23:12.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to leave his office and he goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>just remember this one wrong, all wrong, okay, coach, not

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<v Speaker 2>like I did do a good job with this, thanks

1:23:19.439 --> 1:23:23.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot one wrong. All wrong, you know, And that

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<v Speaker 2>means like center it properly, and you know it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of information. It's not hard, but it's details. So

1:23:28.640 --> 1:23:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I can't f this up. Was he a

1:23:31.840 --> 1:23:35.840
<v Speaker 2>guy of those a million sayings? Yes, he had a lot. Yes,

1:23:35.960 --> 1:23:39.479
<v Speaker 2>he had a lot of sayings like, I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't bite as puppies, they're not going to

1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:45.840
<v Speaker 2>bite as a dog. Meaning if a rookie isn't tough

1:23:45.960 --> 1:23:49.120
<v Speaker 2>when you get them, ain't gonna get tough. Can't buy toughness.

1:23:49.560 --> 1:23:52.320
<v Speaker 2>So I stayed up like all night and they had

1:23:52.360 --> 1:23:53.519
<v Speaker 2>my mom double checking it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, did Jewels bite as a puppy?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Absolutely has anyone talked about the playoff game. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible game. Playoff game in two thousand and nine

1:24:04.680 --> 1:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>and his rookie year, Ray Rice.

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<v Speaker 5>It's come up a few times. We've never dedicated to

1:24:10.400 --> 1:24:12.040
<v Speaker 5>that hit, right that.

1:24:12.320 --> 1:24:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean Bill has talked about like numerous times with

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<v Speaker 2>the team, like the best player on the field.

1:24:16.880 --> 1:24:19.160
<v Speaker 5>In that game for us coming out party.

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<v Speaker 2>We had some good players on the team, but not

1:24:22.080 --> 1:24:24.920
<v Speaker 2>that day. This was an nine other than him. This

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<v Speaker 2>is nine Ravens.

1:24:26.360 --> 1:24:28.679
<v Speaker 4>So then what happened between nine and when he really

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like stuck on, Well.

1:24:30.160 --> 1:24:32.920
<v Speaker 2>He didn't he didn't say that at the time. Later,

1:24:34.160 --> 1:24:35.800
<v Speaker 2>but he couldn't se Super Bowls later.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Jack, let's sorry, let's do this game because

1:24:38.840 --> 1:24:42.240
<v Speaker 4>this was actually sometimes these old games are don't really

1:24:42.600 --> 1:24:44.760
<v Speaker 4>aren't really interesting. Maybe the storyline or the themes are

1:24:44.800 --> 1:24:47.080
<v Speaker 4>more interesting than the actual game play itself. This is

1:24:47.120 --> 1:24:49.760
<v Speaker 4>a great game with an overtime Adam and Terryfield like

1:24:50.120 --> 1:24:51.120
<v Speaker 4>Jack when he hit us up on.

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<v Speaker 5>Before I get into that, I gotta give my guys

1:24:53.439 --> 1:24:56.280
<v Speaker 5>some shine back to that nine playoff game against the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 5>Six catches forty four yards, two touchdowns.

1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's not forget catch just forty four yards. I would

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<v Speaker 2>have guessed more than that.

1:25:05.439 --> 1:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I had a good turn too, But let's Bill like

1:25:09.280 --> 1:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the I remember Bill put the punk return on the

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<v Speaker 1>highlights out of our exit.

1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:17.280
<v Speaker 4>That's the one we how involved you with Bill Tube

1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:17.959
<v Speaker 4>and the cutups.

1:25:18.560 --> 1:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>That's all the film. I yeah, I didn't watch. I

1:25:21.640 --> 1:25:24.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't really watch the game film. I watched a lot

1:25:24.200 --> 1:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>of TV copies our games and other games, because a

1:25:27.000 --> 1:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of times you get better shots, you get good replays,

1:25:29.360 --> 1:25:32.599
<v Speaker 2>you get officials or announcers saying things that helped make.

1:25:32.520 --> 1:25:34.680
<v Speaker 4>The interview in the staff beforehand.

1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or they just explain what's going on, especially officiating.

1:25:40.080 --> 1:25:42.000
<v Speaker 2>So we had a lot of those teaching tapes or

1:25:42.120 --> 1:25:46.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, situations to learn from the weird things that

1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>happened once in a while that Bill likes to talk about.

1:25:49.800 --> 1:25:51.040
<v Speaker 2>So this is a sloppy game.

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<v Speaker 5>This was a while, one intense from the jump, Foxborough

1:25:54.439 --> 1:25:57.840
<v Speaker 5>Stadium is rocking, rocking. We got the old starter jerseys on,

1:25:58.360 --> 1:26:00.959
<v Speaker 5>we got the baggy polos, we got the depleted kakis.

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<v Speaker 5>This was I mean, this is peak nineties football. As

1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:07.679
<v Speaker 5>you said, sloppy game, A little bit six turnovers, six turnovers,

1:26:07.720 --> 1:26:11.160
<v Speaker 5>A little bit sloppy, but still exciting. Two block kicks,

1:26:11.280 --> 1:26:14.760
<v Speaker 5>lead changes or ties seven times. It's back and forth

1:26:14.840 --> 1:26:17.479
<v Speaker 5>all night. The Patriots get out start early with a

1:26:17.560 --> 1:26:20.280
<v Speaker 5>crazy sixty three yard kick return, sets up a quick

1:26:20.320 --> 1:26:23.000
<v Speaker 5>strike to Ben Coates. Pats go up seven to nothing.

1:26:23.400 --> 1:26:26.439
<v Speaker 5>Neil O'Donnell, not not a known runner, runs one in

1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:29.439
<v Speaker 5>to tie it up. Then when Patriots knock again come back,

1:26:29.680 --> 1:26:32.280
<v Speaker 5>Curtis Martin punches one in, go up fourteen to seven

1:26:32.439 --> 1:26:34.600
<v Speaker 5>in the first quarter. Then the second quarter of the

1:26:34.640 --> 1:26:36.880
<v Speaker 5>Jets knocking a field goal. We're at fourteen ten at

1:26:36.920 --> 1:26:39.880
<v Speaker 5>the half. Then in the third mo lewis once again,

1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:43.439
<v Speaker 5>I mean just killing bloodsoe any chance he gets this

1:26:43.600 --> 1:26:47.280
<v Speaker 5>time crazy a pick? I'm sorry, sorry, too soon, still

1:26:47.320 --> 1:26:50.719
<v Speaker 5>too soon? Maybe forty three yard pick six. The Jets

1:26:50.760 --> 1:26:52.200
<v Speaker 5>are up seventeen to forty.

1:26:52.240 --> 1:26:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh Lewis, and it's got tight. It's getting tight.

1:26:55.680 --> 1:26:57.599
<v Speaker 5>The Eras gets sucked out of that building.

1:26:57.640 --> 1:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I hear, what do you mean it's getting tighter. The

1:27:00.720 --> 1:27:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Patriots had to win this game. They had to win

1:27:02.600 --> 1:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>this there's no alternative.

1:27:04.160 --> 1:27:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Had to win this game. And it starts going and

1:27:06.920 --> 1:27:08.519
<v Speaker 2>it actually it's going the other way.

1:27:08.600 --> 1:27:10.760
<v Speaker 5>Now now it's like, oh crap, they got the lead,

1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:13.559
<v Speaker 5>Like this is one of like expectations for this Jets team.

1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:15.479
<v Speaker 5>We're still pretty low after one in fifteen season.

1:27:15.600 --> 1:27:19.120
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like it's almost like not even well, we're

1:27:19.160 --> 1:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna win, It's just we got embarrassed the guy. We

1:27:21.760 --> 1:27:24.599
<v Speaker 2>got embarrass it like winning is like, that's that's happening.

1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Like how bad is it going to be?

1:27:26.840 --> 1:27:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Is?

1:27:27.040 --> 1:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1:27:27.360 --> 1:27:30.599
<v Speaker 5>Like crazy? Back in now the back and forth really starts.

1:27:30.800 --> 1:27:34.479
<v Speaker 5>Adam Vinitary, mister clutch. This is this is before the

1:27:34.560 --> 1:27:36.840
<v Speaker 5>snow kicks. This is before all that ties it up.

1:27:36.920 --> 1:27:40.720
<v Speaker 5>Seventeen seventeen. Patriots get a stop come back love it,

1:27:40.800 --> 1:27:43.479
<v Speaker 5>Pernales filling in for Ben Coates knocked out. At this point,

1:27:43.560 --> 1:27:46.680
<v Speaker 5>Ben Coates gets knocked out of the game go up

1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:47.719
<v Speaker 5>twenty four to seventeen.

1:27:48.240 --> 1:27:51.760
<v Speaker 2>Late then as we only catch them first catch it Yeah,

1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:53.400
<v Speaker 2>not the ball.

1:27:53.400 --> 1:27:55.519
<v Speaker 5>Not a household name, not no to love it, but

1:27:55.600 --> 1:27:58.080
<v Speaker 5>not a household name. Then we come back. We alluded

1:27:58.080 --> 1:28:01.680
<v Speaker 5>to this one earlier. Keishawn Johnson an incredible back of

1:28:01.720 --> 1:28:04.160
<v Speaker 5>the end zone twenty four yarder from O'Donnell, the one

1:28:04.240 --> 1:28:07.519
<v Speaker 5>time waiting, the one catch. Oh my god, you loved

1:28:07.560 --> 1:28:08.479
<v Speaker 5>you drive.

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<v Speaker 4>How much time left was it?

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty we got like twenty nine seconds left in the game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four to twenty four? Kickoff?

1:28:16.680 --> 1:28:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Wait then wait, you know what's gonna happen on it?

1:28:19.360 --> 1:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>Sinsuing kickoff the fumble.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'm sorry, Harry Colors. I'm sorry, brother.

1:28:24.520 --> 1:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk.

1:28:25.200 --> 1:28:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Let's talk through that, because I think that was all.

1:28:27.479 --> 1:28:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about.

1:28:28.160 --> 1:28:30.519
<v Speaker 4>How do you remember the Kishon Johnson touchdown or that drive?

1:28:30.560 --> 1:28:31.240
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember anything?

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<v Speaker 3>First?

1:28:31.439 --> 1:28:32.400
<v Speaker 4>Angel a while ago, but.

1:28:32.840 --> 1:28:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I already won second. Keishawn and I are friends and

1:28:35.240 --> 1:28:37.160
<v Speaker 2>we were very close to then. And the fact that

1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:40.120
<v Speaker 2>he made that catch, and that guy is a competitor.

1:28:40.200 --> 1:28:45.519
<v Speaker 2>Parceles loved him because he blocked, he worked tough, had

1:28:45.560 --> 1:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>some personality to him. They really clicked from the beginning,

1:28:49.040 --> 1:28:51.120
<v Speaker 2>and I was I was happy for him that he

1:28:51.240 --> 1:28:54.120
<v Speaker 2>made that play. That was I mean, that was I

1:28:54.160 --> 1:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know if the game it's tied without that play.

1:28:56.120 --> 1:28:57.360
<v Speaker 5>Were you in the press box for this one?

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<v Speaker 2>I was, Okay, yeah, I was. John notes to Dave

1:29:01.080 --> 1:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Jennings in the radio, guys, because.

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<v Speaker 4>The commentary in the from the broadcast was that Johnson

1:29:06.960 --> 1:29:09.120
<v Speaker 4>was a little bit kind of where was he in

1:29:09.320 --> 1:29:10.800
<v Speaker 4>the when we need him the most for the Jets

1:29:10.880 --> 1:29:12.600
<v Speaker 4>in the fourth quarter. Wasn't a lot of plays they

1:29:12.640 --> 1:29:14.400
<v Speaker 4>weren't really going to him. So this big play at

1:29:14.400 --> 1:29:15.680
<v Speaker 4>the end was kind of like, oh, here he is

1:29:15.880 --> 1:29:18.000
<v Speaker 4>a big moment, big play shows up. Great catch in

1:29:18.000 --> 1:29:20.720
<v Speaker 4>the corner, ties the game or ties the game, right, I.

1:29:20.720 --> 1:29:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Mean, who's his quarterback exactly? And he's come on, guys,

1:29:26.200 --> 1:29:28.360
<v Speaker 2>all right, take us through what are the announcers?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so you remember what happened after that, right with

1:29:30.320 --> 1:29:31.680
<v Speaker 4>the Can you walk us through that?

1:29:32.120 --> 1:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? The scores? Okay, so now there's what thirty something

1:29:36.479 --> 1:29:39.519
<v Speaker 2>seconds left? Game is going to go to overtime most likely,

1:29:39.680 --> 1:29:42.800
<v Speaker 2>right right? Right? But no, no, I mean how often

1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:45.439
<v Speaker 2>does a kickoff return get fumbled? Not very oft not

1:29:45.720 --> 1:29:46.639
<v Speaker 2>very often at all.

1:29:47.120 --> 1:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo two nine opener, right, remember scared Weather knocked him.

1:29:53.120 --> 1:29:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do think I do keep them absolutely the

1:29:55.560 --> 1:29:57.760
<v Speaker 2>same kind of similar situation too. At the end, you

1:29:57.840 --> 1:30:00.800
<v Speaker 2>need a score, right, well, this was tied, so so

1:30:01.400 --> 1:30:06.040
<v Speaker 2>now so he fumbles, Jets recover and now the Jets

1:30:06.080 --> 1:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>are going to win like somehow because the Patriots have

1:30:09.360 --> 1:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>been in control most of the way and there's kind

1:30:11.640 --> 1:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>of wacky plays here, and they now the Jets are

1:30:13.880 --> 1:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>going to win. Just run it down, line up for

1:30:16.280 --> 1:30:21.040
<v Speaker 2>a short field goal and this is gonna be a

1:30:21.160 --> 1:30:26.439
<v Speaker 2>catastrophe in New England. So line up for the field goal.

1:30:27.240 --> 1:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>It gets blocked. Rookie giant, rookie John Hall. Right, they

1:30:33.080 --> 1:30:36.439
<v Speaker 2>came in parcels after that. I don't I don't think

1:30:36.479 --> 1:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>he I don't think he showed it. But I think

1:30:38.240 --> 1:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>after after Keishawan, you saw him after that, after he

1:30:41.600 --> 1:30:43.639
<v Speaker 2>scored a touchdown, I think he thought we might steal

1:30:43.720 --> 1:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>this game, and it was there to be stolen. So

1:30:49.080 --> 1:30:54.639
<v Speaker 2>now we go to overtime and you know what happens here, Curtis, Yes,

1:30:54.800 --> 1:30:59.759
<v Speaker 2>but for that before that, Patriots, Patriots get the ball, okay,

1:31:00.800 --> 1:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>move it a little bit. Interception Otis Smith, his future

1:31:06.160 --> 1:31:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Patriot and Super Bowl contributor. Otis Smith intercepts the ball,

1:31:13.360 --> 1:31:15.920
<v Speaker 2>who tackles him by the way after he intercepts the

1:31:15.920 --> 1:31:18.560
<v Speaker 2>past Troy Brown made tackle. He might have had some

1:31:18.960 --> 1:31:23.040
<v Speaker 2>room to run with Troy tackle them and never gives

1:31:23.120 --> 1:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>up on a play San Diego. Troy talked about it

1:31:27.080 --> 1:31:30.639
<v Speaker 2>yesterday with the balls at midfield. So again another chance,

1:31:30.720 --> 1:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>but nothing happens there as sack or penalty or whatever.

1:31:34.640 --> 1:31:38.240
<v Speaker 2>So now punt it back to New England and then

1:31:38.320 --> 1:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Curtis Martin all the way down, all the way down

1:31:41.360 --> 1:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>the Adam Elementary lines up.

1:31:46.200 --> 1:31:50.519
<v Speaker 1>What's the flight home? You guys lose heartbreak overtime. Should

1:31:50.560 --> 1:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>have won that game.

1:31:51.520 --> 1:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>That game for the Jets is just unfortunate because of

1:31:55.640 --> 1:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>what it could have been. But it wasn't what it

1:31:59.280 --> 1:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>would have been if it were if you were the

1:32:01.320 --> 1:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Patriots and loss. You know, it was disappointed that, you know,

1:32:03.720 --> 1:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>you had those games like it. Really it would have

1:32:05.800 --> 1:32:09.519
<v Speaker 2>been nice. You know, it's unfortunate. Were shame to shame

1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:12.600
<v Speaker 2>it didn't happen off on the Jets side for parcels

1:32:12.640 --> 1:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>and all that and getting the program going. But it

1:32:15.320 --> 1:32:18.519
<v Speaker 2>was a different level than the side the New England side.

1:32:18.840 --> 1:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>How are you in the locker room at the end

1:32:21.360 --> 1:32:25.559
<v Speaker 1>of the game when Parcels is addressing the team.

1:32:25.680 --> 1:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>No, I wasn't really in there. It's probably about the

1:32:28.960 --> 1:32:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Monday were you there? Were you in a team meeting?

1:32:30.920 --> 1:32:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really in the team meetings at that at

1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:37.680
<v Speaker 2>that stage of your career. Yeah. I started that in

1:32:37.760 --> 1:32:38.400
<v Speaker 2>two thousand.

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<v Speaker 5>On this game, as we just said, Adam Viniterry knocks

1:32:43.600 --> 1:32:46.719
<v Speaker 5>one home after an incredible drive by led by Curtis

1:32:46.800 --> 1:32:49.479
<v Speaker 5>Martin in overtime after the Patriots got the ball back

1:32:49.760 --> 1:32:52.400
<v Speaker 5>sixty two yards and nine plays. Forty two of those

1:32:52.479 --> 1:32:57.200
<v Speaker 5>yards were just Curtis Martin rushes. Patriots win twenty seven

1:32:57.680 --> 1:33:01.799
<v Speaker 5>twenty four. Curtis Martin ran the ball forty times, forty

1:33:01.960 --> 1:33:06.360
<v Speaker 5>carries whatety nine yards? One touchdown, go ahead, guys.

1:33:06.400 --> 1:33:09.160
<v Speaker 4>I pined for this era of football, just like I'm

1:33:09.160 --> 1:33:10.840
<v Speaker 4>just gonna give it to my back and we're just

1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:12.560
<v Speaker 4>gonna go down the field. We're gonna punch it in.

1:33:12.640 --> 1:33:14.240
<v Speaker 4>You're just not gonna do anything about it.

1:33:14.479 --> 1:33:16.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh, sorry to tell you.

1:33:16.760 --> 1:33:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not thirteen seconds left. Oh we can get two

1:33:18.920 --> 1:33:19.439
<v Speaker 4>scores here.

1:33:19.600 --> 1:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll see.

1:33:21.120 --> 1:33:26.960
<v Speaker 5>I like my backs wearing big elbow. You know, I

1:33:27.000 --> 1:33:30.320
<v Speaker 5>mean one of the best, most exciting Week three games

1:33:30.800 --> 1:33:34.640
<v Speaker 5>we've ever even mentioned on this show or ever incredible.

1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>However much it could get ramped up, That's what it was.

1:33:37.280 --> 1:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>It was like, I mean different because everyone went, you know,

1:33:40.960 --> 1:33:44.280
<v Speaker 2>obviously the biggest comeback game, come home game is Tom.

1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:47.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, came back with Tampa and that was massive.

1:33:48.479 --> 1:33:51.599
<v Speaker 2>But it was a different vive. It was love for Tom.

1:33:52.280 --> 1:33:56.200
<v Speaker 2>It was different sort of methods of promotion and hype.

1:33:57.040 --> 1:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, this was this was kind of old school.

1:33:59.479 --> 1:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>This is Oldirio. You hate thetriol can. That's a high syllable.

1:34:05.280 --> 1:34:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Word that me and you do not know what did

1:34:08.280 --> 1:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Bill saying that you impressed? Unimpressed. I'm just trying to

1:34:12.360 --> 1:34:14.479
<v Speaker 2>follow that lights footsteps here.

1:34:15.840 --> 1:34:19.680
<v Speaker 5>And the storylines continue. After the game New England, we

1:34:19.720 --> 1:34:22.040
<v Speaker 5>get out to a five and one start, finished ten

1:34:22.120 --> 1:34:26.160
<v Speaker 5>and six, losing the division round of Pittsburgh. The Jets

1:34:26.280 --> 1:34:28.360
<v Speaker 5>would beat the Patriots twenty four to nineteen get a

1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:31.160
<v Speaker 5>little revenge in the Week eight matchup in the Meadowlands.

1:34:31.479 --> 1:34:33.600
<v Speaker 5>Jets would ultimately finish nine and seven, third in the

1:34:33.680 --> 1:34:36.479
<v Speaker 5>AFC East and just narrowly missed the playoffs, but it

1:34:36.520 --> 1:34:39.240
<v Speaker 5>doesn't in there a couple of years down the road.

1:34:41.000 --> 1:34:44.519
<v Speaker 5>But wait, there's more. Paul Tagliabu is earning his money

1:34:44.560 --> 1:34:47.479
<v Speaker 5>between this rivalry. I mean, he's got to be sitting

1:34:47.520 --> 1:34:50.360
<v Speaker 5>at his desk like these guys again, these guys again.

1:34:50.640 --> 1:34:53.639
<v Speaker 5>A couple of years later, back in ninety nine, Bill

1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:56.160
<v Speaker 5>Pauls steps down as the head coach of the Jets,

1:34:56.720 --> 1:34:59.240
<v Speaker 5>and then there's the plan in place for Bill to

1:34:59.320 --> 1:35:03.920
<v Speaker 5>succeed him, right right then Pete Carroll also fired in

1:35:04.040 --> 1:35:07.360
<v Speaker 5>New England in ninety nine, so the New England jobs open.

1:35:08.479 --> 1:35:12.439
<v Speaker 5>Then we infamously get the Bill Belichick spinning one day

1:35:12.479 --> 1:35:13.559
<v Speaker 5>as head coach of the Jets.

1:35:14.240 --> 1:35:16.760
<v Speaker 2>The napkin before we do that, I don't think it

1:35:16.800 --> 1:35:22.760
<v Speaker 2>was a napkin, by the one. It was no napkin. Huh,

1:35:23.040 --> 1:35:23.599
<v Speaker 2>No napkin.

1:35:23.680 --> 1:35:24.080
<v Speaker 5>What was it?

1:35:24.920 --> 1:35:25.639
<v Speaker 2>A piece of paper?

1:35:25.800 --> 1:35:26.599
<v Speaker 5>Okay? Okay?

1:35:30.280 --> 1:35:31.439
<v Speaker 4>And who does he give this to?

1:35:31.880 --> 1:35:33.679
<v Speaker 2>My understanding is he gave it to the team president,

1:35:33.760 --> 1:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Steve Govan.

1:35:34.760 --> 1:35:37.040
<v Speaker 5>This was at the press conference, like this was?

1:35:37.439 --> 1:35:40.600
<v Speaker 2>This was I think the day before okay, maybe the

1:35:40.680 --> 1:35:41.799
<v Speaker 2>morning off, I can't remember.

1:35:42.080 --> 1:35:45.720
<v Speaker 4>So before we get to the actual resignation in the Patriots,

1:35:46.240 --> 1:35:48.880
<v Speaker 4>I just watched the Two Bills documentary NFL Films last night,

1:35:48.960 --> 1:35:50.559
<v Speaker 4>Ken Rogers Shadow n F Films, We Love You.

1:35:51.520 --> 1:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I Love You.

1:35:52.240 --> 1:35:55.280
<v Speaker 4>There was a supposedly a fax that came true from

1:35:55.320 --> 1:35:58.120
<v Speaker 4>the Patriots organization to the Jets organization saying they wanted

1:35:58.160 --> 1:36:00.639
<v Speaker 4>to interview coach Belichick to potentially be their head coach.

1:36:01.960 --> 1:36:04.559
<v Speaker 4>There's some intrigue, there's some stuff. Do you have any

1:36:04.640 --> 1:36:06.240
<v Speaker 4>insight on on what happened there?

1:36:06.560 --> 1:36:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I think it was taken and bald of and throwing

1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:10.759
<v Speaker 2>out that's what I heard.

1:36:11.680 --> 1:36:14.519
<v Speaker 4>And that led to parcels resigning to kind of trigger

1:36:14.800 --> 1:36:15.200
<v Speaker 4>like this.

1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't mean that. I think that it was. The intent

1:36:17.760 --> 1:36:21.800
<v Speaker 2>was this doesn't mean anything because other contractual things are

1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>in the works underway, so's invalid. The uh, the processes

1:36:29.200 --> 1:36:32.160
<v Speaker 2>of requesting permission and all that. Like, it's come a

1:36:32.200 --> 1:36:33.800
<v Speaker 2>long way, It's come a long way.

1:36:34.360 --> 1:36:37.679
<v Speaker 4>Do you you're interstructle with coach Belichick at this time?

1:36:38.560 --> 1:36:40.840
<v Speaker 4>Do you have any conversations about this going on? Or

1:36:40.920 --> 1:36:42.479
<v Speaker 4>is he operating on his own with just all this

1:36:42.560 --> 1:36:43.960
<v Speaker 4>information and wanting to move some stuff?

1:36:44.000 --> 1:36:46.479
<v Speaker 1>So how does Bill get you to we got a

1:36:46.520 --> 1:36:50.679
<v Speaker 1>napping gait whatever? This that whatever not an a piece

1:36:50.720 --> 1:36:53.559
<v Speaker 1>of paper out there? How does Bill ask you to come?

1:36:53.680 --> 1:36:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Bears, you come with me?

1:36:55.560 --> 1:36:56.280
<v Speaker 1>How'd he ask you?

1:36:57.240 --> 1:36:57.519
<v Speaker 4>Bears?

1:36:57.600 --> 1:37:00.760
<v Speaker 2>You know you've worked really hard. You know you're a

1:37:00.840 --> 1:37:05.320
<v Speaker 2>New York guy. Like what? I don't think there was

1:37:05.400 --> 1:37:08.240
<v Speaker 2>ever one like specific conversation on this like Bill got.

1:37:08.479 --> 1:37:11.839
<v Speaker 2>Bill was interviewed for a job the previous year, the Raiders,

1:37:12.439 --> 1:37:14.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know how it is like we started, we

1:37:15.160 --> 1:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>formed a relationship and you know, we talked about things. Whatever.

1:37:19.080 --> 1:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't specifically like, all right, I'm getting this job,

1:37:21.680 --> 1:37:23.720
<v Speaker 2>this is your job, let's go do it. You just

1:37:23.800 --> 1:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of get a vibe like you want to kind

1:37:25.960 --> 1:37:29.320
<v Speaker 2>of feels like we might have a future together. But

1:37:29.439 --> 1:37:34.000
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a specific moment in time. Never huh.

1:37:34.160 --> 1:37:36.559
<v Speaker 1>He always keeps you in that gray. He always keeps

1:37:36.560 --> 1:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you that grey. Is that is Jedi mind trick?

1:37:38.560 --> 1:37:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think that's an overrated thing too,

1:37:41.000 --> 1:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>about like how calculating he is on every last thing,

1:37:44.160 --> 1:37:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Because he is calculating on a lot of things when

1:37:46.760 --> 1:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>it comes to football, but not every last thing. So

1:37:50.280 --> 1:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>many press conferences that he was laid for. He was

1:37:53.479 --> 1:37:56.640
<v Speaker 2>coming from a meeting where he was locked in on

1:37:56.800 --> 1:37:59.640
<v Speaker 2>whatever that was, And thirty seconds later he's in a

1:37:59.680 --> 1:38:03.360
<v Speaker 2>press off. He wasn't just going over like every last

1:38:03.439 --> 1:38:05.439
<v Speaker 2>thing he was going to say and message to put

1:38:05.520 --> 1:38:09.080
<v Speaker 2>out there, like he's not that smart. Oh he's smart,

1:38:09.479 --> 1:38:11.360
<v Speaker 2>and he probably did do that sometimes. But is this

1:38:11.600 --> 1:38:13.839
<v Speaker 2>a little bit urban legend?

1:38:14.360 --> 1:38:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, for sure. I mean he wasn't saying Foxboro

1:38:16.960 --> 1:38:22.200
<v Speaker 5>High every minute like everyone says, Napkins, this.

1:38:22.320 --> 1:38:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Is see this is bullshit. Three ring no pad?

1:38:28.040 --> 1:38:31.599
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, like a gentleman Napkins over here? Could he's

1:38:31.640 --> 1:38:34.200
<v Speaker 5>a number at a bar? Come on, man, we're just

1:38:34.240 --> 1:38:37.480
<v Speaker 5>spelling rumors. I like, we're debunking over here today MythBusters

1:38:37.520 --> 1:38:38.320
<v Speaker 5>Games with Names Edition.

1:38:38.400 --> 1:38:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I like it.

1:38:39.360 --> 1:38:41.760
<v Speaker 5>But but just to wrap this up and put a

1:38:41.840 --> 1:38:44.320
<v Speaker 5>neat bow on it, Bears, could you help us since

1:38:44.920 --> 1:38:46.960
<v Speaker 5>you live through this and you were on the ground,

1:38:47.479 --> 1:38:49.640
<v Speaker 5>boots on the ground in the building. Kind of the

1:38:49.760 --> 1:38:54.839
<v Speaker 5>timeline of events of Bill getting hired by the Jets, Parcels, resigning,

1:38:55.240 --> 1:38:57.880
<v Speaker 5>and then making the jump to New York, like how

1:38:57.920 --> 1:39:01.599
<v Speaker 5>that played out? Just the card of events?

1:39:01.920 --> 1:39:03.720
<v Speaker 2>So was it, Napkin? And then you guys just got

1:39:03.760 --> 1:39:07.360
<v Speaker 2>in the station wagon and this was something? These are

1:39:07.439 --> 1:39:10.240
<v Speaker 2>like ten these are tense times here tense times. I'm

1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:14.080
<v Speaker 2>not like and again I'm not in the parcels like

1:39:14.280 --> 1:39:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Jets executive circles all the time. I'm not like meandering

1:39:18.920 --> 1:39:23.040
<v Speaker 2>in and out of these conversations. Yeah you are. That's

1:39:23.080 --> 1:39:25.600
<v Speaker 2>a different you know what, different me? That was the

1:39:25.880 --> 1:39:26.560
<v Speaker 2>That was the old me.

1:39:27.080 --> 1:39:29.160
<v Speaker 4>There was a there was a line in the New

1:39:29.240 --> 1:39:31.400
<v Speaker 4>York Times where it says, where you position yourself on

1:39:31.520 --> 1:39:34.160
<v Speaker 4>every press conferences out of sight but with an earshot.

1:39:35.600 --> 1:39:38.439
<v Speaker 2>I tried. I was actually in that press conference. I'll

1:39:38.479 --> 1:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>never forget where it was like in the Jets auditorium,

1:39:41.040 --> 1:39:43.840
<v Speaker 2>was like halfway up on the left side, just watching.

1:39:44.000 --> 1:39:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Like one thing the media doesn't like, especially like New

1:39:46.920 --> 1:39:49.880
<v Speaker 2>York media or Boston. They don't like things that take

1:39:49.960 --> 1:39:54.120
<v Speaker 2>them completely by surprise. They don't really like that, especially

1:39:54.120 --> 1:39:55.800
<v Speaker 2>if they don't have like they didn't see it coming.

1:39:55.920 --> 1:39:59.320
<v Speaker 2>They don't have a great explanation. That's that's not like

1:39:59.400 --> 1:40:00.360
<v Speaker 2>great area.

1:40:02.000 --> 1:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like a movie like Bill's just going up there

1:40:05.320 --> 1:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and then he announces He's not going like ah, yeah,

1:40:08.120 --> 1:40:08.760
<v Speaker 1>what's going on?

1:40:09.520 --> 1:40:11.439
<v Speaker 4>He like winks to the camera and then that's the

1:40:11.560 --> 1:40:12.120
<v Speaker 4>end of the season.

1:40:12.240 --> 1:40:15.720
<v Speaker 2>Flash next season, Patriots like a.

1:40:15.760 --> 1:40:17.920
<v Speaker 4>Smirk like a season succession, season two ending.

1:40:19.400 --> 1:40:21.880
<v Speaker 5>I still remember those Jets Cadillac step in repeats that

1:40:21.880 --> 1:40:23.519
<v Speaker 5>were always behind the body.

1:40:23.400 --> 1:40:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, you know who had the Cadillac deal, Bill Parcells.

1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah, he drew up. That was his car, Cadillac.

1:40:30.400 --> 1:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I think he drove it, like to Florida. He didn't

1:40:32.040 --> 1:40:33.280
<v Speaker 2>like to fly. I think he drove it when he

1:40:33.320 --> 1:40:36.080
<v Speaker 2>went down there and in a winter, you know, like

1:40:36.320 --> 1:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>right after the season until whenever he came back.

1:40:38.160 --> 1:40:39.360
<v Speaker 5>He drove thatbile.

1:40:39.479 --> 1:40:42.320
<v Speaker 4>That's such a new New England or Northeastern like New

1:40:42.400 --> 1:40:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Jersey kind of like going to Florida.

1:40:44.080 --> 1:40:45.960
<v Speaker 5>Move doesn't take lit up the Cadillac.

1:40:46.000 --> 1:40:49.800
<v Speaker 4>We're going to Florida. So to kind of wrap up

1:40:49.840 --> 1:40:53.559
<v Speaker 4>this thing, maybe the borrowface for you, what's the theme

1:40:53.840 --> 1:40:58.920
<v Speaker 4>of this Coach Belichick Jets to Patriots transition transfer that happens?

1:40:59.400 --> 1:41:03.679
<v Speaker 2>What is the drama? Drama and that's all we're just trying,

1:41:03.760 --> 1:41:07.280
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to eliminate distractions. Well, that was the wrong

1:41:07.320 --> 1:41:10.080
<v Speaker 2>place for you, because that's that's a lot of drama.

1:41:10.600 --> 1:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the that's the Patriot jet theme that

1:41:14.760 --> 1:41:20.000
<v Speaker 2>the drama. Yeah, just drama never stopped, never stopped. The

1:41:20.120 --> 1:41:20.759
<v Speaker 2>music never.

1:41:20.640 --> 1:41:23.120
<v Speaker 5>Stopped Dead Reference Baby, and we came on.

1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:26.880
<v Speaker 1>And it never stopped that you know what, you know,

1:41:26.920 --> 1:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy that little car ride in that station wagon.

1:41:30.880 --> 1:41:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Little did we know about six seven years later when

1:41:34.520 --> 1:41:36.240
<v Speaker 1>no little man Genie takes jet job.

1:41:36.920 --> 1:41:38.400
<v Speaker 2>I thought we'd all just be in your car.

1:41:39.080 --> 1:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought we'd all be in the car just listen

1:41:40.960 --> 1:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to dead Bruce Springsteing Bond Job. And then you know,

1:41:45.760 --> 1:41:49.439
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, man Genie, you know a drama, drama,

1:41:49.880 --> 1:41:50.679
<v Speaker 1>and that's the theme.

1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah drama. I forgot. I don't know what you're talking about.

1:41:56.280 --> 1:41:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Two blinks for yeah drama.

1:42:01.320 --> 1:42:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, could Bill have built the success that the Patriots

1:42:06.720 --> 1:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>had with the Jets if he were to be the

1:42:10.000 --> 1:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Jets head coach right now?

1:42:11.439 --> 1:42:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he could. I think the Jets are

1:42:13.840 --> 1:42:14.280
<v Speaker 2>just right.

1:42:14.479 --> 1:42:18.360
<v Speaker 4>Let's go sorry to every frim alternate reality coach. Belichick

1:42:18.439 --> 1:42:21.439
<v Speaker 4>was named head coach for that day, had things worked

1:42:21.479 --> 1:42:24.200
<v Speaker 4>out and he stayed. Do you think he could have

1:42:24.320 --> 1:42:26.719
<v Speaker 4>built what was built in New England in that organization,

1:42:26.840 --> 1:42:28.160
<v Speaker 4>with what was the pieces that were there?

1:42:28.720 --> 1:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know that Bill already knew how build how

1:42:33.360 --> 1:42:36.080
<v Speaker 2>to build a team. He built one in Cleveland. You

1:42:36.160 --> 1:42:39.519
<v Speaker 2>can go. There've been documentaries about the nineteen ninety five

1:42:39.600 --> 1:42:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Browns and what that eventually became. So he knew

1:42:43.320 --> 1:42:45.559
<v Speaker 2>how to build a team. It would be a reach

1:42:45.600 --> 1:42:48.679
<v Speaker 2>for me to say it would have been six super

1:42:48.760 --> 1:42:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Bowls and all that, because as you know, and I

1:42:51.520 --> 1:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>feel I get the question. You got the question, Bill

1:42:54.040 --> 1:42:58.439
<v Speaker 2>or Tom whatever, it's everybody, man, It's everybody to everybody.

1:42:58.520 --> 1:43:02.519
<v Speaker 2>So it helps to have the best at the two

1:43:02.600 --> 1:43:05.840
<v Speaker 2>most important positions, head coaching, quarterback, Like it helps to

1:43:05.920 --> 1:43:10.759
<v Speaker 2>have that. I was gonna say three best positions football ops, quarterback,

1:43:10.800 --> 1:43:16.400
<v Speaker 2>head coach. Yeah, sorry, so being honest, Yeah, if you

1:43:16.479 --> 1:43:21.120
<v Speaker 2>got everybody else, because that's it didn't just happen, and

1:43:21.360 --> 1:43:23.639
<v Speaker 2>it takes people. You know. Did he ever talk.

1:43:23.520 --> 1:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>About what he learned in his time in Cleveland, Belichick

1:43:27.600 --> 1:43:30.240
<v Speaker 1>like the mistakes, Like on the car right up with

1:43:30.320 --> 1:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you and Manginie. Was he sitting there like, all right, guys,

1:43:33.880 --> 1:43:35.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm probably not going to do this one.

1:43:35.560 --> 1:43:38.519
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to do the PB and J Live TV.

1:43:40.120 --> 1:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he mentioned that, but he form of

1:43:44.040 --> 1:43:47.680
<v Speaker 2>team building and football standpoint, Now, he didn't not with

1:43:47.840 --> 1:43:50.240
<v Speaker 2>me so much. I'm sure he had those conversations with

1:43:50.360 --> 1:43:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Scott Pioli and Ernie because those are the guys that

1:43:53.200 --> 1:43:56.439
<v Speaker 2>really kind of set the tone to building the team.

1:43:56.680 --> 1:43:59.920
<v Speaker 2>But from my standpoint kind of off the field, it was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was too much in the weeds and the details

1:44:02.280 --> 1:44:05.360
<v Speaker 2>on everything, even things that are important but someone else

1:44:05.400 --> 1:44:07.840
<v Speaker 2>can handle. Yeah, you know, see the big picture more,

1:44:08.000 --> 1:44:12.240
<v Speaker 2>which he definitely said that. You know, even though he

1:44:12.560 --> 1:44:14.680
<v Speaker 2>probably still feels like he's in the wiz and a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of stuff, but maybe not as much as it

1:44:16.600 --> 1:44:17.200
<v Speaker 2>was in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 4>So delegation and like building an organization team that you

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<v Speaker 4>can trust to handle those kind of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he definitely said that. How do you sum up

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<v Speaker 2>Parcels Jets era, it was becoming more professional outfit. Yeah,

1:44:30.840 --> 1:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>they're good players there when he got there. Yeah, and

1:44:35.640 --> 1:44:39.200
<v Speaker 2>then he added some more, but it was about running

1:44:39.240 --> 1:44:43.559
<v Speaker 2>a professional program, which you know what that is is details,

1:44:43.600 --> 1:44:47.439
<v Speaker 2>it's work. It's like not losing a game, not losing

1:44:47.479 --> 1:44:52.000
<v Speaker 2>a game, seriously, not losing a practice. Yeah, no question.

1:44:52.800 --> 1:44:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Every day manters bear shaming guys out of the training room.

1:44:57.200 --> 1:44:57.519
<v Speaker 3>What is that?

1:44:58.360 --> 1:45:01.719
<v Speaker 2>That means that if if you can be out there practicing,

1:45:02.160 --> 1:45:04.519
<v Speaker 2>then be out there practicing like Rabel would do this

1:45:04.640 --> 1:45:06.240
<v Speaker 2>like you you didn't see it, but like there'd be

1:45:06.320 --> 1:45:08.720
<v Speaker 2>like some young guys in the training room, like you

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<v Speaker 2>get them out of there. You can't make the club

1:45:10.840 --> 1:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>in the tub. Fact, you can't make the old club

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<v Speaker 2>in the tub.

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<v Speaker 4>After we're a bathing suit in the tub.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we I mean we have gray shorts. Oh my goodness,

1:45:22.120 --> 1:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>communal shorts. You don't want to just be sitting in

1:45:25.680 --> 1:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the hot tub and all sudden, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, unless your name is Bill Belichick, Unless your name

1:45:31.240 --> 1:45:34.960
<v Speaker 5>is Bill Belichick. Right, and he left over questions, Jack,

1:45:35.160 --> 1:45:38.720
<v Speaker 5>I got a bunch, I got a million, but I'll

1:45:38.720 --> 1:45:39.200
<v Speaker 5>set on one.

1:45:39.200 --> 1:45:43.360
<v Speaker 2>You got to get another plug for BC. We got

1:45:43.400 --> 1:45:45.280
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing. Billy. Oh, we gotta get Billy O

1:45:45.400 --> 1:45:45.760
<v Speaker 2>on too.

1:45:46.240 --> 1:45:47.320
<v Speaker 5>You want to get on.

1:45:47.920 --> 1:45:49.240
<v Speaker 2>He talked about you all night.

1:45:49.400 --> 1:45:51.320
<v Speaker 5>I still don't believe. I still don't believe.

1:45:52.200 --> 1:45:55.280
<v Speaker 2>But he wor's Jack, I was next to I want

1:45:55.280 --> 1:45:55.639
<v Speaker 2>to believe.

1:45:56.080 --> 1:45:59.160
<v Speaker 5>I love Bill Billet. We miss I almost said hey,

1:45:59.240 --> 1:46:02.519
<v Speaker 5>but we were in like room and it was awkward. Along.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a long coffee break that I just took.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, all right, last one there's it's Bill Belichick

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<v Speaker 5>has become sort of infamous for the postgame press conferences,

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<v Speaker 5>the on to Cincinnatis, the all of these these soundbites

1:46:15.720 --> 1:46:18.599
<v Speaker 5>that have like may taken on lives of their owns.

1:46:19.240 --> 1:46:22.400
<v Speaker 5>Is it true that, like from Cleveland and over the years,

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<v Speaker 5>you were sort of the Belichick whisper of how to

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<v Speaker 5>craft the news conference and to soften some of those

1:46:28.600 --> 1:46:30.000
<v Speaker 5>edges that may have been there in Cleveland?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably probably some of that, okay, but not all Like, Okay,

1:46:34.280 --> 1:46:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Bill is Bill, Like we didn't rehearse, Okay.

1:46:37.400 --> 1:46:40.000
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know if there were coaching points on the media.

1:46:40.280 --> 1:46:43.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are some coaching points on you know, delivery.

1:46:44.120 --> 1:46:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Listen Bill's Bill in the end. But I think if

1:46:48.960 --> 1:46:52.719
<v Speaker 2>you watched the Cleveland version, the new England version probably

1:46:52.760 --> 1:46:53.559
<v Speaker 2>looks a little different.

1:46:55.000 --> 1:46:57.559
<v Speaker 1>So what's he gonna look like in the next version?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know, what do you know? I

1:47:02.360 --> 1:47:04.120
<v Speaker 2>don't know? But what I do know? What do I

1:47:04.240 --> 1:47:05.400
<v Speaker 2>What do I want? I want to know?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1:47:06.400 --> 1:47:08.320
<v Speaker 2>What do you want to know? Let's just do a

1:47:08.360 --> 1:47:12.519
<v Speaker 2>little let's just do a little control, Let's do a

1:47:12.560 --> 1:47:14.080
<v Speaker 2>little what ifs. I know we don't have a big

1:47:14.120 --> 1:47:16.200
<v Speaker 2>in the what if game, but what a hypotheticals.

1:47:16.360 --> 1:47:21.519
<v Speaker 1>What if the Dallas Cowboys go eleven and six South

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<v Speaker 1>losing the first round, fire the coaching staff bring in Belichick,

1:47:26.280 --> 1:47:31.360
<v Speaker 1>bringing Josh McDaniels, bringing Scott Pioli, and they have one

1:47:31.479 --> 1:47:34.559
<v Speaker 1>guy that they're calling, Hey, bears, are you gonna come

1:47:34.640 --> 1:47:34.960
<v Speaker 1>join us?

1:47:35.000 --> 1:47:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Are you on that?

1:47:35.520 --> 1:47:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Are you are you gonna go on? Are you gonna

1:47:37.439 --> 1:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>circle up with the wagon and.

1:47:38.640 --> 1:47:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Go go Eagles? Listen? In January? Okay, look like there

1:47:45.439 --> 1:47:47.800
<v Speaker 2>was a decent chance he was going to Atlanta, like

1:47:47.920 --> 1:47:52.360
<v Speaker 2>some legitimate interviews, right, and then he didn't go to Atlanta.

1:47:53.720 --> 1:47:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Billy O'Brien was the offensive coordinator. Ohiose state? And now

1:47:58.360 --> 1:47:59.960
<v Speaker 2>is that b Sie? You don't know? It's going to

1:48:00.080 --> 1:48:02.040
<v Speaker 2>go so crazy?

1:48:02.320 --> 1:48:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Tune Go Eagles, stay tuned, Go Eagles. Oh so oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so if Sirianni goes eleven and six and

1:48:11.040 --> 1:48:15.280
<v Speaker 1>they fired him after a first round EXO Boston College Eagle.

1:48:18.560 --> 1:48:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Est in College? What's the fight song? We have a

1:48:21.760 --> 1:48:23.800
<v Speaker 2>fight song. There's a fight song Billy loves to play

1:48:23.800 --> 1:48:25.960
<v Speaker 2>out of practice. Oh my god, I haven't learned the

1:48:26.000 --> 1:48:31.080
<v Speaker 2>whole thing yet, so I'm new, just trying to learn. Man, Jack,

1:48:31.120 --> 1:48:33.000
<v Speaker 2>where did we go, we missed anything.

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<v Speaker 5>We're pretty darn clean this episode. Thankfully. Charlie Wise did

1:48:39.840 --> 1:48:42.800
<v Speaker 5>indeed get his start in the Parcels regime with the

1:48:42.920 --> 1:48:44.599
<v Speaker 5>Jets back as a coaching assistant.

1:48:44.800 --> 1:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Coaching assistant, So Charlie's office used to have. We used

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<v Speaker 1>to have an office dedicated to Charlie.

1:48:50.160 --> 1:48:53.280
<v Speaker 2>If people had no idea, people had no idea, people

1:48:53.360 --> 1:48:55.720
<v Speaker 2>had no idea. It was just referred to as they

1:48:55.720 --> 1:48:57.840
<v Speaker 2>had no clues. He had never coached before because it

1:48:57.920 --> 1:48:59.760
<v Speaker 2>was years after he was gone. But it wouldn't go

1:48:59.880 --> 1:49:02.439
<v Speaker 2>me in Charlie's office. WILLI oh had Charlie's office? He

1:49:02.600 --> 1:49:04.479
<v Speaker 2>did for a while when I was there.

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<v Speaker 4>Just said he had his own office where he would

1:49:06.520 --> 1:49:08.559
<v Speaker 4>blast John Mayer out of after our hard practice.

1:49:08.600 --> 1:49:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Can you confirm that I had? I had a couple

1:49:10.760 --> 1:49:11.439
<v Speaker 1>offices bears.

1:49:11.520 --> 1:49:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Nos, love John Mayor, We love Mayor. We'll be right

1:49:17.640 --> 1:49:25.320
<v Speaker 2>back after this quick break. All right, let's name the game.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a segment where we score the game, we

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<v Speaker 1>name the game, and uh, you're the guest, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing the name of the game. We have the Tuna Bowl,

1:49:36.520 --> 1:49:40.120
<v Speaker 1>we have the Tuna melt Down. Their return of the

1:49:40.200 --> 1:49:46.479
<v Speaker 1>Tuna Bill mcgeddon or the Spicy tunabl or anything that

1:49:46.560 --> 1:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you can think of. What is the name of this game?

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<v Speaker 2>Week three ninety seven Jets Pats.

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<v Speaker 6>Name of the game bears like the Tuna Bowl tunabyl

1:49:56.320 --> 1:49:58.720
<v Speaker 6>there it is the tune up Bowl, the Tuna Bowl.

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<v Speaker 6>Name co which is coming back and playing against his

1:50:03.439 --> 1:50:06.880
<v Speaker 6>former team. Let's score the game? Is this the greatest

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<v Speaker 6>game of all time? Let's score it?

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<v Speaker 1>Stakes one to ten decimal's okay, bears the stakes of

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<v Speaker 1>a week three game.

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<v Speaker 2>Steaks because there are lots of different stakes. There's standings,

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<v Speaker 2>there's I'd say, oh, what's my what's my scoring system?

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<v Speaker 2>One to ten descinals?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, decimals one.

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<v Speaker 2>There's some high stakes in this game. High one mean rible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going nine nine steaks nice regular.

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<v Speaker 5>Stakes high regular line but means very high.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also the rule changes because of all the

1:50:43.760 --> 1:50:47.160
<v Speaker 1>contract tamp rings and this and that and can they go?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he the head coach? Is he not the I

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<v Speaker 2>mean this is a lot of a lot of snakes.

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<v Speaker 4>Star Power Jewels had a six point nine jacket of

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<v Speaker 4>seven point three. I had a six point nine as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, star Power okay. Hall of Fame coaches everywhere, coaches players,

1:51:01.240 --> 1:51:04.400
<v Speaker 2>it would be a maximum Hall of Fame players, Curtis Martin,

1:51:04.479 --> 1:51:09.120
<v Speaker 2>ty Law, Adam to be quarterback, you know, Drew Patriot

1:51:09.160 --> 1:51:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Famer, other tons of patrio. I'm going uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go nine as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Jewels, you had a seven point eight jacket, a

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<v Speaker 4>six point two.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, seven. They're hard graders.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether you just did a game with what twenty two

1:51:24.040 --> 1:51:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Hall of Famers, super Bowl nine versus Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>Game, Player of the game, little sloppy six turnovers, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was for the viewer kind of fun, especially nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go I'll go lower on that one. Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>six six.

1:51:39.360 --> 1:51:41.400
<v Speaker 4>Jewels had a seven point seven. Jack had a seven

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<v Speaker 4>point ninety seven point six.

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<v Speaker 2>And the name of the game the Tuna Bowl. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a classic classic name because you know, you know it's

1:51:49.120 --> 1:51:51.200
<v Speaker 2>a good name when there's they actually named, you know,

1:51:51.320 --> 1:51:55.479
<v Speaker 2>have sequels Tuna two three, like they had other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll go, uh, eight and a half on this one,

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<v Speaker 2>eight and a half. Yeah, he's Jewels with an eighth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, say Jack with an eight point nine and myself

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<v Speaker 4>with line.

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<v Speaker 1>A seven to seven to one. Where's that stand in

1:52:08.479 --> 1:52:12.760
<v Speaker 1>our games that puts us okay to.

1:52:13.400 --> 1:52:16.400
<v Speaker 4>Above another Jets Patriots game that can't wait game.

1:52:16.520 --> 1:52:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Can Rich Eisen he wanted, he requested that game, Bears.

1:52:22.479 --> 1:52:24.559
<v Speaker 2>It's a bad game. He's a Jet fan.

1:52:24.920 --> 1:52:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Because of that, I had to tell his sweet beautiful

1:52:27.320 --> 1:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>wife that I will not come over for Shabbat dinner

1:52:29.360 --> 1:52:31.120
<v Speaker 1>because he requested this this dinner.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't forget for this game. We don't forget.

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<v Speaker 4>It's also just behind, only one hundredth of a point

1:52:35.760 --> 1:52:39.599
<v Speaker 4>behind the Super Bowl twenty one Giants versus Broncos Bears.

1:52:39.680 --> 1:52:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Do we miss anything? I think I think you covered

1:52:42.439 --> 1:52:42.960
<v Speaker 2>it pretty good.

1:52:43.120 --> 1:52:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Do we cover it pretty good? Or is there something

1:52:44.960 --> 1:52:48.040
<v Speaker 1>else just sticking in that sponge of a brain you have?

1:52:48.560 --> 1:52:51.840
<v Speaker 2>We plugged. Maybe I'll be back. You never know. You

1:52:51.880 --> 1:52:52.880
<v Speaker 2>know you're coming back.

1:52:53.840 --> 1:52:57.240
<v Speaker 1>And if you're happy, we got something to plug other

1:52:57.360 --> 1:52:57.920
<v Speaker 1>than Boston.

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<v Speaker 4>One more thing is we're talking about Boston College. I'm

1:53:00.240 --> 1:53:02.960
<v Speaker 4>a big Virginia Tech guy. Is the ACC gonna make it?

1:53:03.040 --> 1:53:03.519
<v Speaker 4>What's happening?

1:53:04.080 --> 1:53:06.840
<v Speaker 2>He'll make it? I mean the a C look sec

1:53:07.280 --> 1:53:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and and no, it's still football revenue whatever, it's eighty

1:53:10.840 --> 1:53:17.000
<v Speaker 2>percent or more like Okay, I'm just married. But in

1:53:17.160 --> 1:53:21.240
<v Speaker 2>terms of revenues and all that. The third behind of

1:53:21.479 --> 1:53:23.760
<v Speaker 2>like thirty conferences. It's behind a big ten of the

1:53:23.800 --> 1:53:27.080
<v Speaker 2>a SEC with a longer TV contract. So ACC is

1:53:27.080 --> 1:53:29.720
<v Speaker 2>not going anywhere. I don't think. I don't. Obviously we will.

1:53:30.120 --> 1:53:32.080
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot still to be ironed out here, but

1:53:32.200 --> 1:53:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I think they're on the right Jack, Charlie Breaker, Charlie Baker, Baby,

1:53:35.000 --> 1:53:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Charlie Baker.

1:53:36.680 --> 1:53:41.080
<v Speaker 4>It's an ECC podcast, I'm gonna say, Charley, Jack disagrees.

1:53:41.160 --> 1:53:42.639
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you see what else?

1:53:42.720 --> 1:53:44.519
<v Speaker 1>A lot of good things going on there, A lot

1:53:44.560 --> 1:53:46.360
<v Speaker 1>of great things at Boston College.

1:53:46.960 --> 1:53:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, coming to what else? We got some Armenia updates.

1:53:50.200 --> 1:53:52.160
<v Speaker 2>We don't want to go there going it'll be it'll

1:53:52.200 --> 1:53:55.640
<v Speaker 2>be powerful, it would be very powerful. Yeah, there's a

1:53:55.680 --> 1:53:58.559
<v Speaker 2>lot of a lot of unfortunate things happen over there.

1:53:58.720 --> 1:54:02.080
<v Speaker 2>A lot of you get that don't get the publicity

1:54:02.160 --> 1:54:06.040
<v Speaker 2>that other crises get. It's too bad. It is a

1:54:06.120 --> 1:54:08.720
<v Speaker 2>bigger fish to fry in this world at times. But

1:54:09.280 --> 1:54:13.680
<v Speaker 2>our meetings are very resilient. But we are recognizing that

1:54:13.840 --> 1:54:16.160
<v Speaker 2>here on Games with Names. Thank you, we are a

1:54:16.200 --> 1:54:17.400
<v Speaker 2>right big deal. Bill.

1:54:18.280 --> 1:54:20.640
<v Speaker 1>We love you, Bears love you, and I appreciate you

1:54:20.760 --> 1:54:26.599
<v Speaker 1>coming on. It's it's been awesome to pick your brain

1:54:26.680 --> 1:54:30.280
<v Speaker 1>in a different way than I usually do, just walking

1:54:30.360 --> 1:54:33.760
<v Speaker 1>by your office and drawing a little picture on your

1:54:34.200 --> 1:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>your whiteboard or something.

1:54:36.400 --> 1:54:39.120
<v Speaker 2>He did, he did, You know what? My a favorite one.

1:54:39.240 --> 1:54:41.800
<v Speaker 2>So there's a whiteboard in the hallway for whatever, announcements

1:54:41.920 --> 1:54:46.680
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and it's usually like official, thanks, okay, except

1:54:46.680 --> 1:54:49.840
<v Speaker 2>for except for this guy. I would put other things,

1:54:49.920 --> 1:54:52.840
<v Speaker 2>like there was a time when everybody was moaning about

1:54:52.880 --> 1:54:55.800
<v Speaker 2>like publicly media. You know, things are too hard at

1:54:55.840 --> 1:54:59.120
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots, no one has fun, blah blah blah. One day,

1:54:59.600 --> 1:55:03.520
<v Speaker 2>what's the message? Winning is fun? Winning is fun.

1:55:03.840 --> 1:55:04.920
<v Speaker 5>Put that on a T shirt.

1:55:05.320 --> 1:55:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Winning is fun makes everything else worth it.

1:55:08.360 --> 1:55:11.960
<v Speaker 1>And then I went away from my four game vacation

1:55:12.960 --> 1:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and I came back. He was still there, and it

1:55:14.640 --> 1:55:16.320
<v Speaker 1>stayed on that board all year long.

1:55:16.440 --> 1:55:18.880
<v Speaker 2>We went and won a super Bowl. That was fun.

1:55:19.400 --> 1:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Parades are fun. Hell yeah, right out here, right out here.

1:55:23.840 --> 1:55:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Awesome.

1:55:24.360 --> 1:55:26.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, Thanks bro, Appreciate you, bears, love you.

1:55:26.800 --> 1:55:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Thanks. Guys. Talk about a mythical character, old Bear.

1:55:34.280 --> 1:55:36.560
<v Speaker 5>What a guy, What a guy, What a guy. He's

1:55:36.600 --> 1:55:39.040
<v Speaker 5>one of those guys you only hear about. And he's

1:55:39.120 --> 1:55:42.920
<v Speaker 5>referencing stories and he's right. We've heard about him a

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<v Speaker 5>lot in our our Patriots episodes this season. Now putting

1:55:46.320 --> 1:55:48.080
<v Speaker 5>a face to the name and a name to the

1:55:48.160 --> 1:55:50.400
<v Speaker 5>Lord's that was awesome. What a treat.

1:55:50.600 --> 1:55:52.280
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome to get him to come in here.

1:55:52.360 --> 1:55:55.680
<v Speaker 1>And I know he he was pretty excited about this.

1:55:56.160 --> 1:55:59.040
<v Speaker 1>He always talks. He always like dms me on Instagram

1:55:59.240 --> 1:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Like the guy who used to pretty much

1:56:03.400 --> 1:56:06.400
<v Speaker 1>watch all of Instagram. To have him like actually comment

1:56:06.600 --> 1:56:08.280
<v Speaker 1>on like something good about our Instagram.

1:56:08.640 --> 1:56:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Pretty cool. I like that or TikTok or whatever it

1:56:11.640 --> 1:56:15.520
<v Speaker 2>is social, but uh, it was pretty cool.

1:56:15.560 --> 1:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And I actually got a chance to go talk to

1:56:18.640 --> 1:56:22.640
<v Speaker 1>the BC football team, uh and it with Billy O'Brien

1:56:23.120 --> 1:56:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and Bears there and then talk to their whole football team,

1:56:26.720 --> 1:56:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was It was pretty cool. A bunch of

1:56:30.720 --> 1:56:34.280
<v Speaker 1>hungry guys and you get to tell them some of

1:56:34.320 --> 1:56:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the stories and some of the things that helped me

1:56:36.960 --> 1:56:40.600
<v Speaker 1>along my football career. Anytime you get to do that

1:56:40.680 --> 1:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to a younger group, future generation, it you know, it

1:56:44.960 --> 1:56:46.560
<v Speaker 1>makes you feel young.

1:56:48.280 --> 1:56:50.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get to watch practice, but there's some big

1:56:50.520 --> 1:56:51.080
<v Speaker 2>guys in there.

1:56:51.800 --> 1:56:54.760
<v Speaker 5>We didn't we didn't have an Applewood situation. Did we No,

1:56:56.040 --> 1:57:00.919
<v Speaker 5>that was Billy not Applewood situation. I know Billy coach O'Bryant.

1:57:01.160 --> 1:57:03.880
<v Speaker 5>They're gonna do good. You know, Billy O's a smart

1:57:03.920 --> 1:57:08.640
<v Speaker 5>football coach. He's passionate and uh, from just seeing the

1:57:08.720 --> 1:57:10.520
<v Speaker 5>looks in these guys eyes, you can always kind of

1:57:10.560 --> 1:57:13.960
<v Speaker 5>tell who's who's who's looking at the guy and you know,

1:57:14.040 --> 1:57:15.720
<v Speaker 5>I've been in a couple of plays all this guy,

1:57:15.840 --> 1:57:16.840
<v Speaker 5>what do we even hear for?

1:57:17.600 --> 1:57:20.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, they were all pretty dialed and glued, you know,

1:57:20.760 --> 1:57:21.840
<v Speaker 2>so it was cool to see them.

1:57:21.920 --> 1:57:25.360
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome to campus is beautiful there, it's beautiful campus.

1:57:26.360 --> 1:57:27.640
<v Speaker 4>Excited to see what Bill does.

1:57:28.160 --> 1:57:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Me too, Billy O, Bears, that was That was a

1:57:32.720 --> 1:57:33.120
<v Speaker 2>fun day.

1:57:33.400 --> 1:57:35.800
<v Speaker 5>I think they're turning us into be BC fans. We

1:57:35.880 --> 1:57:38.040
<v Speaker 5>got to come back and when they're playing, I'm down.

1:57:38.520 --> 1:57:38.760
<v Speaker 3>I know.

1:57:39.320 --> 1:57:40.000
<v Speaker 4>He's so sweet.

1:57:40.880 --> 1:57:43.520
<v Speaker 5>Those are two guys. Those guys are guys who want

1:57:43.560 --> 1:57:47.200
<v Speaker 5>to root for. Granted we're Patriots rummers, but Bears and

1:57:47.440 --> 1:57:48.840
<v Speaker 5>Billy ore just awesome dudes.

1:57:49.240 --> 1:57:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Awesome dude, awesome guys. I love Billy.

1:57:51.240 --> 1:57:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh's a huge part of you know, me being in

1:57:53.600 --> 1:57:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the league and having the success that I had he

1:57:55.680 --> 1:57:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was Him and Chaddie O'Shea were the

1:57:59.160 --> 1:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>first people that Bill laid some tape on the desk

1:58:02.360 --> 1:58:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and said, give me a write up on this kid.

1:58:05.640 --> 1:58:08.080
<v Speaker 2>He reminded me today that it wasn't for being a quarterback.

1:58:09.520 --> 1:58:11.000
<v Speaker 2>He reminded me, Man.

1:58:10.920 --> 1:58:12.440
<v Speaker 5>It was so cool to get to see Billy O

1:58:12.520 --> 1:58:15.400
<v Speaker 5>at uh at Brady Night too. He's just he's a fan.

1:58:15.600 --> 1:58:16.480
<v Speaker 5>He's a great love.

1:58:16.600 --> 1:58:18.800
<v Speaker 4>He like came up to me and was like, I

1:58:18.920 --> 1:58:21.320
<v Speaker 4>love the show. It's anything okay, No, I was even

1:58:21.360 --> 1:58:23.240
<v Speaker 4>listening to Baron Davis like he's like trying to say

1:58:23.240 --> 1:58:24.880
<v Speaker 4>how much of a head he was so like he

1:58:24.960 --> 1:58:26.480
<v Speaker 4>was like, what am I gonna be on the show?

1:58:26.560 --> 1:58:28.240
<v Speaker 4>So well, have to find a time. We'll get him

1:58:28.240 --> 1:58:28.640
<v Speaker 4>to the show.

1:58:29.160 --> 1:58:31.120
<v Speaker 5>Man, I would do anything for BILLYO on the shows.

1:58:31.440 --> 1:58:33.640
<v Speaker 5>He was so had such kind words to say to us,

1:58:33.680 --> 1:58:35.840
<v Speaker 5>and it was I was I was tickled to get

1:58:35.880 --> 1:58:37.600
<v Speaker 5>to hear how how much of a fan he was.

1:58:37.680 --> 1:58:40.200
<v Speaker 5>And it was really embarrassing you look up to saying

1:58:40.200 --> 1:58:42.640
<v Speaker 5>he's a fan of us. Yeah, what you say about Bear?

1:58:42.720 --> 1:58:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Sorry?

1:58:42.960 --> 1:58:45.720
<v Speaker 4>And it was this was a great episode, you know, Yeah,

1:58:46.880 --> 1:58:49.160
<v Speaker 4>I love that he gave us some stuff, but he

1:58:49.160 --> 1:58:51.640
<v Speaker 4>didn't give us everything. You know, he still was buttoned up.

1:58:51.680 --> 1:58:53.720
<v Speaker 4>He told some stories here that you probably wouldn't have

1:58:53.720 --> 1:58:55.240
<v Speaker 4>got when he was still with the Patriots, but he

1:58:55.240 --> 1:58:56.000
<v Speaker 4>didn't tell everything.

1:58:56.080 --> 1:58:58.080
<v Speaker 5>I liked that, and then I gotta I got a

1:58:58.160 --> 1:59:01.040
<v Speaker 5>quick jack correction from this episode. I believe I failed

1:59:01.080 --> 1:59:04.240
<v Speaker 5>to mention a big part of this game. Hugh Douglas,

1:59:04.360 --> 1:59:06.960
<v Speaker 5>the Jets best pass rusher, was out this game with

1:59:07.000 --> 1:59:09.360
<v Speaker 5>a groin injury. So that was a big storyline. Headed

1:59:09.440 --> 1:59:11.520
<v Speaker 5>Oh I forgot to touch on that. Oh God, thank

1:59:12.760 --> 1:59:17.080
<v Speaker 5>you Douglas, maybe Division two guy, great pass rusher. I

1:59:17.520 --> 1:59:19.600
<v Speaker 5>failed to mention that in the lead up, and it's

1:59:19.640 --> 1:59:21.000
<v Speaker 5>been eating at me ever since.

1:59:21.440 --> 1:59:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, we were were happy you got it cleared up.

1:59:23.840 --> 1:59:25.760
<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Thank you. Man. I just I it's some

1:59:25.880 --> 1:59:29.880
<v Speaker 5>nostalgia for this era of football. Starter polo shirts, pleated khakis,

1:59:30.520 --> 1:59:32.800
<v Speaker 5>guys coaches with big got a history in this game.

1:59:32.920 --> 1:59:35.880
<v Speaker 5>It was great. What a great choice by by Bears.

1:59:35.920 --> 1:59:36.760
<v Speaker 5>That was That was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It was awesome. But now let's hit the old hot line.

1:59:41.000 --> 1:59:44.720
<v Speaker 1>And I remember and remember that number is four two

1:59:44.840 --> 1:59:47.960
<v Speaker 1>four two nine two nine zero.

1:59:48.560 --> 1:59:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Hit the old hot line. Let's see what we got.

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<v Speaker 7>Yo was what's a Buffalo bluer right here? Big seven

1:59:55.760 --> 2:00:01.360
<v Speaker 7>one six head? Honestly, even though you would player, I gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, I love the podcast, I love the story.

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<v Speaker 7>You gotta talk about a man. If I had one person,

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<v Speaker 7>I request you have on the who you have Freddy

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<v Speaker 7>Frad or try to get Freddy fred on their Big

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<v Speaker 7>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up watching that.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like you two will be able to talk

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<v Speaker 7>about all of the nice Bill games, Bill Petriots games

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<v Speaker 7>that I have back then, yeah, playing out Orchard Park especially.

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<v Speaker 2>He can talk about some one of.

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<v Speaker 7>The Miami games, and then y'all I can probably talk

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<v Speaker 7>about that too, because Miami in that division two. All right,

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<v Speaker 7>just keep it up to appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a Bill's Mafia fan calling in?

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<v Speaker 5>I think so we're even converting Bill's Mafia to be

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<v Speaker 5>games with name SAIDs.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. I always love the Bill Mafias of

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<v Speaker 2>the Bill's Mafia.

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<v Speaker 1>And anytime I go anywhere, if I'm at like a

2:00:50.360 --> 2:00:54.600
<v Speaker 1>sporting event thing, I end up hanging a Buffalo fan

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<v Speaker 1>is always like hanging heckling me. But honestly, awesome dudes

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<v Speaker 1>or ladies, you know, I had there's a guy with

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<v Speaker 1>his wife. We were at something for the win, and

2:01:04.080 --> 2:01:06.200
<v Speaker 1>like we were sitting next to each other, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's either a Boston there's always either non

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<v Speaker 1>Boston fans that like hang out will have like Bill's

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<v Speaker 1>Ma Mafia, and there's always like a Philly person.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Randomly I was skiing somewhere or snowboarding somewhere and ended

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<v Speaker 1>up hanging out.

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<v Speaker 2>With this Philly guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Hated me for the first two seconds, but then opens

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<v Speaker 1>up like the greatest dude ever, you know. But we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get Freddie Fred Is he talking about Fred Jackson?

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<v Speaker 5>I think so. That took me a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Fred Jackson. I mean he was a really good

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<v Speaker 1>football player running back.

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<v Speaker 2>He tore us up.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Bill always giving him great highlights, Like Bill would

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<v Speaker 1>always give like a twelve thirteen play cut up on

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs for the Buffalo Bills. How they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>always get the highest recognition, but they were always just

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest, toughest guys.

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<v Speaker 4>We gotta do a Bills game where they win. We've

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<v Speaker 4>done a couple of them with it.

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<v Speaker 1>We definitely gotta get a bit. We gotta give some

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<v Speaker 1>some wins.

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<v Speaker 5>Man Fred Jackson of co College and see the Rapids.

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<v Speaker 5>Iowa love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, D three.

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<v Speaker 5>We also got to get Fred Taylor, speaking of Freddy,

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<v Speaker 5>Fred's on.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I thought Fred Taylor.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I put the context clues of Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we'll we'll have to get him on.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm down.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate the call. Blu Ray Buffalo Buffalo Blue Ray.

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<v Speaker 5>Not to be confused with DVD player Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys, Luk here from California.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say, been a very good podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>With these last few episodes, Bangers.

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<v Speaker 5>One game I would like you guys to go over

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<v Speaker 5>is the Bills versus the Chiefs the Divisional round game

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<v Speaker 5>in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>That must be the greatest.

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<v Speaker 7>Playoff game I have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you guys think?

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<v Speaker 7>Very high game of point, very good back and forth

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<v Speaker 7>versus the great Josh Allen and the great Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it will be a very good episode to

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<v Speaker 2>hear on either the Bills side or from the chief side.

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<v Speaker 4>All in all, a very good game appreciated.

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<v Speaker 1>Think again, Luke, you're one hundred percent correct. That's a

2:03:07.400 --> 2:03:11.400
<v Speaker 1>that's a phenomenal game. That game revolutionized you know a

2:03:11.480 --> 2:03:13.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of what the league's gone into. That was the

2:03:14.360 --> 2:03:18.720
<v Speaker 1>game We're thirteen or whatever how many seconds. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how explosive the league has gotten. And it's because of

2:03:23.680 --> 2:03:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes. Guys like Patrick Mahomes and guys like Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Allen who just they're never out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That that that is going to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>We just got to dial out who we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>put up on there.

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is our one of our most requested

2:03:40.520 --> 2:03:43.200
<v Speaker 4>games outside of the USC Texas game. I think this

2:03:43.360 --> 2:03:45.160
<v Speaker 4>is maybe the second most requested.

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<v Speaker 5>Game that game is. It still just baffles me that

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<v Speaker 5>we had a game that good, that was incredible, incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that, Like I'm like a wet blanket guy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's my whole thing. I hated this game. I hate

2:03:56.120 --> 2:03:58.360
<v Speaker 4>that it was just like basketball at the end, like

2:03:58.440 --> 2:04:00.160
<v Speaker 4>it was just like, oh, who's going to have the balls?

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<v Speaker 4>Is gonna score? All offense? Defense might not even play,

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<v Speaker 4>So I know, I'm I know, I'm like the wet

2:04:05.120 --> 2:04:07.440
<v Speaker 4>blanket annoying guy here. And I'd love to do this

2:04:07.520 --> 2:04:09.480
<v Speaker 4>game because it's fun to talk about, but I personally

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<v Speaker 4>don't love this game.

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<v Speaker 5>That's even such a good game we man forget the

2:04:12.160 --> 2:04:14.400
<v Speaker 5>guys from each side on if we could, if we

2:04:14.440 --> 2:04:17.360
<v Speaker 5>could somehow that team, it's it's a must do. We

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<v Speaker 5>gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear their perspective of going into

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<v Speaker 1>those last drives and you know, just what what were

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches saying?

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<v Speaker 4>Also like the balls on my homes Like thirteen seconds,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, yeah, I got this, we got this,

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<v Speaker 4>we got this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and didn't turn out good for them as we

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<v Speaker 2>just had went for one. We gotta get it. We

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<v Speaker 2>gotta get some more wins for the bill.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the bills, like right there, the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>We got the nice tea up Kai.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh sorry I put him in that order, Jack Mercy,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just twisting the knife for Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, guys, but boys down in Texas actually driving

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<v Speaker 3>to a rodeo, appreciate you all. The y'all show passing

2:04:57.400 --> 2:05:00.040
<v Speaker 3>my time in the truck and getting horses ready on

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<v Speaker 3>a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 2>It's awesome to listen to I.

2:05:02.880 --> 2:05:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Hear everyone just guys throwing. Another option is like having

2:05:07.760 --> 2:05:10.600
<v Speaker 3>guys like at the NFR, which is the National Finals

2:05:10.720 --> 2:05:13.800
<v Speaker 3>rodeo on the pod. Got like guys like Cody Ole

2:05:14.360 --> 2:05:18.520
<v Speaker 3>who he needed, he needed a good run to win

2:05:18.600 --> 2:05:22.080
<v Speaker 3>the world title. Goes take four, break the world record

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<v Speaker 3>fastest tied out opening ever that happened. When's the world title?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's so many stories in the NFR and

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<v Speaker 3>Rodeo that you could uh that you could come up

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<v Speaker 3>with names fo so many big times where guys stepped

2:05:34.720 --> 2:05:36.960
<v Speaker 3>up and did their things. So I think that's another

2:05:37.040 --> 2:05:41.000
<v Speaker 3>option to go uh and branch out and see more athletes. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate the show, guys, Thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You Texas call.

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<v Speaker 5>I love this.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to get a rodeo.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember once Scott who was it, Scott Eastwood, we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about something.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, bro, you got to come out to

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<v Speaker 2>the PVR. I'm like, what fock's pr is? Clint Eastwood? Sun?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, some I guess he's a big rodeo guy. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the that's the league name PBR.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe Ribbon Yeah or.

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<v Speaker 2>PBR.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>He said other stuff I didn't understand, but I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but no, we gotta definitely get it would be

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<v Speaker 1>so cool to get a rodeo guy in here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll watch it here and there on like

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<v Speaker 2>some of the sport networks.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I watched Yellows. I mean on Yellowstone. They

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<v Speaker 5>show a little they got you know, they're doing a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Those those guys are nuts, certifiable, real men, tough guys.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we could go back to our origins where

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<v Speaker 4>you get like the competitors and we get a guy

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<v Speaker 4>in a bull.

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<v Speaker 2>Would just sit a bull in here?

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<v Speaker 5>Dude, how how long? How long do you think either

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<v Speaker 5>you could realistically last on a bull. I'm not no

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<v Speaker 5>mechanical joint.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, probably not long.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not getting on it in the first place.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm probably not either. I'm I'm a post.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>You ever heard mutton busting yello?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, mutton busting a little eyes on the little uh sheep.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like bull riding for kids, except for they just

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<v Speaker 4>grab on the sheep and they just see all them.

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<v Speaker 5>They can hang on.

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<v Speaker 4>I can try that, you'd be great.

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<v Speaker 5>I literally just saw who was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Recently? Someone jumped on a bull and like did some

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<v Speaker 1>creat like bare backed it? It was some dude looked

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<v Speaker 1>like he was hammered. Did you say that video? Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I send it to the group or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I don't like, I don't know well you don't want, man,

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<v Speaker 5>come on. I don't know if I remember that one,

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<v Speaker 5>But did you see the one where the bull got

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<v Speaker 5>out and was like out by the concession stand bucking

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<v Speaker 5>dudes like and then they just kept going on with

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<v Speaker 5>the rodeo. He got loose from the ring and was

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<v Speaker 5>out by the concessions.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they send a couple of dudes to the hospital

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you buy a ticket to one of those,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you it's in the small print. You get

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<v Speaker 1>bucked by a bull at the concessions.

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<v Speaker 5>I will not sue. I will get you're good, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>freak out with each goring. I would I would say

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<v Speaker 5>I would like to go to a rodeo and and

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<v Speaker 5>maybe steal a little rodeo valor get the belt buckle

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<v Speaker 5>out o nice bill, twelve gallon hat.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to go to.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta we should do like a We should go

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<v Speaker 1>to a rodeo. You got to experience it before I

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<v Speaker 1>bring a guy on. Yes, yes, rodeo guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this guy's dropping names. The guy broke a

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<v Speaker 1>world record. I can't have this guy on without experience, right.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta see it.

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<v Speaker 5>I've never been to one in person, have you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to something.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was a kid, there used to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth of July rodeo in Woodside, California. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>went to that once. There's like a little horse community

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<v Speaker 1>up up tight. Not like I'm not like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, we gotta.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe maybe take friend of the show, Dola, even Dola,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe show us around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dola has like three or four friends that

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<v Speaker 1>just like are in rodeos.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe that's yeah, Scott Eastwood, we love you, but maybe

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<v Speaker 5>the looking or our friend here, dude, we like this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just about to load some horses, listening to Games

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<v Speaker 1>with Names, listening to Jack Glaze up some horses right now.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a post guest segment at one point that

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<v Speaker 4>was going to be the coolest horse names for the

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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky Derby. I think I got cut.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that was a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to wait till next.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, I do like that. I like I like it,

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<v Speaker 5>like romanticizing this guy's life of like the sun sitting

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<v Speaker 5>out in Texas and he's loading up the trailer and

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<v Speaker 5>Games with Names is cranked up on the Big fourd

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<v Speaker 5>F three point fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>This duly.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a cool life.

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<v Speaker 8>And as he goes to press play on the old

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<v Speaker 8>tape set, he reaches in his back pocket, pulls out

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<v Speaker 8>a little as we like to call it, God's dirt.

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<v Speaker 8>That's right to ride it in his lip gets home

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<v Speaker 8>with this day one listens to games with names in

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<v Speaker 8>the background.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, boys, this week they got bears are cow boys?

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<v Speaker 5>Hear that new one? But that says Marilla.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know why. Anytime I drink everyone thinks

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from Texas?

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<v Speaker 5>Did they really?

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<v Speaker 4>I just got a little pop eye, a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 5>See on the dusty trail, No Francisco area.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you from, Texas? I hear to the Colm Valley. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>little place where the horses go wild.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a place called Mountain View, right next to Hewlett Packer.

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<v Speaker 4>Last one's tools shown here.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, I'll be at the live broadcasts and of games

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<v Speaker 3>with names at the end of August and Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a proposition for you.

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<v Speaker 4>You get the legendary Randy moss on.

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<v Speaker 3>Before then I will come on, say agent, let you

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<v Speaker 3>punched me in the stage.

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<v Speaker 7>I would love to hear which to thank thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Rules I don't know if I can get that done,

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<v Speaker 1>this proposition, this is yeah, dude, I'll let you punch

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<v Speaker 1>me in the face.

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<v Speaker 5>In front of the entire Wilbur crowd, a sold out

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<v Speaker 5>Wilbur just committing assault.

2:11:21.000 --> 2:11:21.720
<v Speaker 4>He'll sign a release.

2:11:23.960 --> 2:11:25.600
<v Speaker 5>You think we give him headgear? No headgear.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to break my hand. No.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Jack has to punch him.

2:11:28.680 --> 2:11:33.480
<v Speaker 5>Twelve em one or two boxing classes with jewels down

2:11:33.520 --> 2:11:35.560
<v Speaker 5>in Santa Monica. I could, I could throw a little

2:11:35.560 --> 2:11:35.960
<v Speaker 5>weight into it.

2:11:36.680 --> 2:11:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I still need a lot more.

2:11:38.760 --> 2:11:40.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I do like the tone of this

2:11:40.840 --> 2:11:43.080
<v Speaker 5>guy of Sean was very ominous. I'll be at the

2:11:43.160 --> 2:11:46.240
<v Speaker 5>live show in Boston like it was ominous and a

2:11:46.240 --> 2:11:48.800
<v Speaker 5>little threatening. I kind of like it. A little joker is.

2:11:50.280 --> 2:11:50.560
<v Speaker 3>What if?

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<v Speaker 5>But what if we don't get Randy anything?

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't really tell them we don't get Randy. I

2:11:59.800 --> 2:12:01.160
<v Speaker 2>guess it just makes the show worse.

2:12:02.320 --> 2:12:05.080
<v Speaker 4>Our producer Leah was getting buddy buddy with Randy's wife

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<v Speaker 4>at the celebration.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, for us to get Randy, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to because he only travels just to do probably the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's on, you know the end. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than that, I think Randy literally just fishes all day.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to do games with names on like

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<v Speaker 1>a fishing boat, and I'm talking like lake fishing, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be very tight.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm done for that. We'll get practice when we do

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<v Speaker 4>Bill in Nantucket on a fishing boat?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we doing Bill in Nantucket in the fishing boat?

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<v Speaker 4>And we're gonna try.

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<v Speaker 2>Anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I ask Bill, you know, he just keeps

2:12:40.480 --> 2:12:43.880
<v Speaker 1>on giving me some I'm like, he keeps on asking

2:12:43.920 --> 2:12:46.960
<v Speaker 1>how much money? Yeah, I go, Bill, this isn't how

2:12:47.120 --> 2:12:52.840
<v Speaker 1>podcasting works. It's literally like friendy friend.

2:12:52.920 --> 2:12:55.120
<v Speaker 5>All right, Johnny Manziel doing the freaking He's.

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<v Speaker 1>Giving me money signs like john Johnny Manziel, Like, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>you think he'd just beat all the all the years

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<v Speaker 1>that I took those shitty fucking contracts where you bullied

2:13:04.960 --> 2:13:07.280
<v Speaker 1>me into taking. How about you take that money and

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<v Speaker 1>just keep it in your head and say, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm going on to games and names for.

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<v Speaker 5>We offer prove it deals over here.

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<v Speaker 2>How about that? Yeah, we offer proof this is a

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<v Speaker 2>proven deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Minimum.

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<v Speaker 2>You're getting a league minimum thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>But I tell Bill all the time, like he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>are we good now? I'm like when have we ever

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<v Speaker 1>been bad? And as I'm walking away, I go, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't pick your family.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't pick your family. He's just like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>They speaking of Randy. Did you guys get to share

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<v Speaker 5>an embrace at the at the Brady Night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were. We went pre pre stage.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking about what we were he was.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all just talking about like what we would

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<v Speaker 1>probably get into. I love that we took a picture.

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<v Speaker 5>I almost cried when they gave Randy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. I mean it's deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all time great, not just for the Patriots, for

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<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, wrap this up, we'll clip this put

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<v Speaker 4>on social media. Everyone tag Randy Moss. We'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone's gonna tag Randy straight cash straight, tag homieg homie. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what a game, what a what an episode? Thanks again

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