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Speaker 2: Just just tell him to ask me, because they've already

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Speaker 1: They've already asked already. Today we have a very special guest.

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick's right hand man.

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Speaker 2: He's Bill Belichick's right hand.

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Speaker 1: Man, man of mystery. But anyone who played for the

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Speaker 4: He knows where the buyser. Barry the guy who knows

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Speaker 4: where everything is, everything's up to, but you don't know

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Speaker 1: By design, No, by design everything to do with any

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Speaker 1: Former Patriots Director of Football Ops slash head coach administration,

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Speaker 2: The coaches I've worked under, pat Riley, Bill Parcells, Jef

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Speaker 1: So are you the coach whisper? Are you the coach,

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Speaker 2: And this one has massive storylines. The year before Hatriots

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Speaker 1: So what's the misconception of building you know?

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Speaker 1: Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack and Kyler,

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Speaker 1: and we are on a mission to find the greatest

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Speaker 1: Boston edition episode. Feels great to be back in the

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Speaker 1: It's just great to be back. And today we are

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Speaker 4: When people ask him, I'm saying, he knows where the

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Speaker 1: He's a buffer. He's the buffer.

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Speaker 5: He's seen a lot of thing. You've seen a lot

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Speaker 4: With Bills just texted me that he's Smithers.

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Speaker 5: I was just gonna say is that a mister Burne

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Speaker 5: Of drama, jumping ship, bad blood, rematch, revenge, Hatesvitz Jets,

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Speaker 1: Come on September fourteenth, nineteen ninety seven, Foxboro Stadium, Foxboro, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: Bill Parcells returns to New England for the first time

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Speaker 2: That was awesome. Welcome to Games with Names.

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Speaker 1: And today we have a very special guest. We have

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Speaker 1: Boston version. Welcome to the studio, Jewels, great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Is it unbelievable? Yeah? It is. I mean we're

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Speaker 2: Why this game, Bears, This is a big game man

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Speaker 2: Week three, nineteen ninety seven for the Tuna Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: Humming, Yeah, is this the greatest game of all time?

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Speaker 2: We'll get back to the game. But it is a

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Speaker 2: cool game. Oh, it's amazing. We're gonna get to the game. Okay,

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Speaker 2: No, No, I wouldn't say that. I'm just just trying

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Speaker 1: You can't give me the patriot technique. You can't just

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Speaker 1: They've already asked already.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I mean maybe I am a

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Speaker 1: And that's why we wanted to bring you in here

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Speaker 2: I mean there are a lot of specifical what was

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Speaker 2: It means that I help him. What it doesn't mean

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Speaker 5: You know that.

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Speaker 2: I never coached you, never talked to you about your

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Speaker 2: do that. We can eliminate that I don't do. I

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Speaker 2: Keep going. But you know, he's involved. He is responsible

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Speaker 1: So you feel you had a lot of hats, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was. Bears was with everyone. He was

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Speaker 2: Now. Can you what was like the most taxing day

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Speaker 2: So I would you know, out of watching the game,

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Speaker 2: You know, we won the football.

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Speaker 1: Look you say something to the media, I'll fucking tell you

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Speaker 2: You know what, Sometimes they do sometimes they do they

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Speaker 1: You know, you'd walk in every week after a victory

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Speaker 2: Bears picked the photos. We all knew Bears picked the photos.

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Speaker 2: Right? Did you have? Were there any other guys like

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Speaker 2: around eight thirty nine. Wednesdays, eight thirty Thursdays somewhere in there,

439
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: and then Friday Friday. It's like five or so so

440
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 2: total a of them. Whatever that is, I don't know.

441
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 2: It's a lot of hours hours. Tell you what, though,

442
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: there wasn't a day, not one day twenty four years

443
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: driving up to that place was and I thought, no,

444
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: I don't want to be here today. That never happened, Jesus.

445
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 2: I used to think that everything after we doubt that.

446
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: After weeked, I doubt that, well after week eight. It hurts.

447
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there. What the fuck am I thinking about?

448
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: You're still the first guy in somehow.

449
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: So Scarnakio was. I tried to beat the rookie my

450
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 1: rookie year. I beat him once. He was like three

451
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: forty five. I just wanted to see if I could

452
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 1: beat Scarnakia.

453
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: He was probably got it in at three forty didn't

454
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 2: he get in like four or something. He's probably stick

455
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 2: that day.

456
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: Bears, What was your most obscure task?

457
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: The most obscure task? I mean, Bill had some needs

458
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: on a road now, like he wants his office. Like

459
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: it's not like on the road, like we don't just

460
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: go to a hotel. I think some teams, like they

461
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: go on the road, they show up, they might meet,

462
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: they might not. They go out to dinner, go to bed,

463
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,479
Speaker 2: get up and go play. It's not like that at

464
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: the Patriot. No, you know, you get there and then

465
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: we're like scrambling at the hotel to recreate our offices

466
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 2: at Gillette Stadium, especially if it's not a one night stay,

467
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: for the two nights stay or a week long stay.

468
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: Like you're in your office, like you have the ball

469
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: you have a ballroom where it's chopped up, and then

470
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 2: there are different spots in the hotel that you turn

471
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: into an office. So Bill's office has got to be

472
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: like it's got to be detailed, obviously, the work space,

473
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 2: the screen, the treadmill, the place to hang closed, the

474
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: iced tea. The So Bill's not a coffee Guy's a

475
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: nice tea guy. Right, Bill's not a coffee guy at all,

476
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: thinks iced tea? Yeah sweet, it's unsweetened lemon. You know.

477
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 5: So you're telling me Bill is not just sitting in

478
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 5: the corner at the little desk with the with the

479
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 5: Bible and the little pad like doing his work there.

480
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 5: Not at all.

481
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you might not even get to that

482
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: you might even get to that room until you know,

483
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: four hours after we arrive, you know, after going meeting

484
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: with the media, work meeting with the staff, meet with

485
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: the coaches, and meet with the scouts after that, and

486
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: then and then eventually get to the room.

487
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, like people don't like we'd all have like a

488
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: two hour like hour break before meetings started or treatment started.

489
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: When you get to the the hotel of the away

490
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: game and you know, we'd have some time downtime where

491
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: we can go change, get out of the suit because

492
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: you had to wear a suit during travel. Bill had

493
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: be in that goddamn suit until about ten thirty at night.

494
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: Oh boy, lose tige and all.

495
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: You know, his feet had to hurt. Man. You know

496
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: what's it? Didn't you guys use to have weight challenges

497
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: we did. That was pretty good. That was at the Jets.

498
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: That was that started at the Jets at least. Yeah,

499
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: everybody had had a goal. This was serious too. There

500
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: was the contracts involved. There were there were sabotage. There,

501
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: there was sabotage. There would be like and Bill did this,

502
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 2: uh he would put it was like maybe six or

503
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: seven of us, like you know, trying to lose different

504
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: amounts away Like I wasn't trying to lose that much,

505
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: but whatever, but I was in it. But he would

506
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: put he would put like a slice of pizza in

507
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: someone's desk drawer or some cookies in there. The you

508
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: know when the weigh ins are about to come up,

509
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: and there were penalties about it if you try to

510
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: tamper with a scale, which that happened. This was prey Dope,

511
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: pre dayball. This was this was Mike, Mike Tannemoum, Scott Pioli,

512
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 2: Charlie Weiss, Eric Mannging, and Charlie Weiss. Actually he had

513
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: he had like a serious I don't know if actually

514
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: how serious a condition was. He had like a really

515
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: uncontrollable like nosebleed one day like right before away in

516
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: and like they wouldn't let him out of the beat,

517
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: like they would have let him out man, Contracts and

518
00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: contract right, it turned into a big deal like Tagli

519
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: But it works, man, it worked, Yeah, yeah, it worked. Man.

520
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: Everyone made their weights. So I mean, well, not not

521
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: very healthy, but healthy competition.

522
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: Can you take us through a game day? What do

523
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: you what's your what's your process? What do you think?

524
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: What are you doing on game day. Are you going

525
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: there to the facility to check the game clocks and

526
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: report to Bill like eight the wins this? Or are

527
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: you just straight getting the team right and what are

528
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: you doing on the game day.

529
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it varies different things, Like I've I would always

530
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: I would be the one to submit the inactive form,

531
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, like the players, and you know a lot

532
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: of weeks there's like so there's six or seven depending

533
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 2: on what it is now, but six or seven players

534
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: who are on the active roster who are not active

535
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: for the game. So that's that's to get submitted to

536
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: the league. And there's some other information you got to

537
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: put on there too, But the inactive form is important

538
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: and a lot of times it comes down the last second,

539
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: like is this guy healthy enough to play? Is he not?

540
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: He's going through a workout, and it could go up

541
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: to like ten minutes left. I remember, hey, I'm sure.

542
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 1: Do you remember do you remember the when I had

543
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: a broken when I broke my arm and it was

544
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: my rookie year and I was like, I got a

545
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: surgery and I was like maybe fourteen days out of surgery,

546
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: and I'm leaving on Friday to go to my house

547
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: because I just started practicing in that second week, and

548
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 1: as I'm leaving Bars was the guy that would stop you. Hey,

549
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: coach wants to talk to you. What do you mean

550
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: coach wanst talk to me. Yeah, but my going you

551
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: might have to go get your suit, remember that. Yeah,

552
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,479
Speaker 1: I had to go get my suit.

553
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: You know, he goes.

554
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: I think Bill wants you to travel because it'll be

555
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: good for uh, you know, uh just matchup looks. People

556
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: will just to see you travel. I'm like, all right, cool, awesome,

557
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: all right, I'll go get my suit travel. And then

558
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: I did the game day workout. Yeah, and on game day,

559
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there the night before, me and Slate actually

560
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: we shared a room on the road early in our career.

561
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like, I don't know if I could

562
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: do this, Slate, I don't know I could do this.

563
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: This is fucking terrible. Sunday night football. Was it Sunday

564
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: night and Monday night?

565
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: I think it was a Sunday Sunday night, Yeah, Sunday.

566
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: So I go, I go to bed terrified. Wake up

567
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: the next morning. I wake up Slate, I'm like, it

568
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: Sunday night football.

569
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 5: I'm going I'm gonna go.

570
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: So I do my workout. I mean I haven't. I

571
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: just broke my arm and I'm doing workout before the thing.

572
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, Coach, I think it's gonna be all right.

573
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, puts me in first touchdown. You

574
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: were the first one to let me know.

575
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: There you go. See, I got I got more fun

576
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: facts for you Sunday, say too, we'll get to what

577
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: do you got. I got a fun facts for you,

578
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: which that relates to game day. So you asked, you know,

579
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: one of the things I do, I talk about access, right, Like,

580
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: so every every team has people that work with NFL Films,

581
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: right and and NFL Films is has the right to

582
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: mike players up right, got some good ones here, don't we.

583
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: So you know that goes through Stacey James. It goes

584
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: through me, like who are going to make up? Here's

585
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: who we want who? You know, team has a little

586
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: bit of influence on who it can be and maybe

587
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: we should stay away. Some guys don't like to be miked.

588
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: And then afterward, you know, is a process of whatever

589
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: whatever they put out there, whatever footage they have. Well,

590
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: in the history of the National Football League, someone has

591
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: the most postseason miked up games the most postseason miked

592
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: up games in the history of the National Football League.

593
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, my homes Kelsey, I'm into this stuff and

594
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: I happened to be involved eleven for number eleven? What

595
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: about that? Good guess this guy right here, let's go

596
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: whose house? I'm sitting in more postseason wires than anyone

597
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: else in the history of the National Football How about that?

598
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: Hell? Yes?

599
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: Now? Why a good question? Well, you know, like I said,

600
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: there's a process. We were undefeated for a while. We

601
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: were until the last one. We were you know, there's

602
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: something that we're overly superstitious. But you know, it's going

603
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: pretty good there for a while. Did it performed a

604
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: lot of great plays in there, game winning plays, you know,

605
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: entertainment value. They wouldn't they wouldn't keep asking unless it

606
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: was good, you know, good material, some good material on there.

607
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: So he kept asking. We kept saying, Yes, that's awesome.

608
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: There's incredible quotes doing there.

609
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate incredible. Now, Bears, you had to sift through

610
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: all the footage. I love you Bill, I love you

611
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: Bill on there on the stage. Yeah, you're too old.

612
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: There's a couple of them. I do love Bill, I

613
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: got it. I caught it.

614
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: We're huge fans of NFL films here. What is the

615
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: process like after the fact? So are you reviewing the footage?

616
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: They send it all the miked up? How does that?

617
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a is a great trust with those guys,

618
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: like they're not out to ever make anyone look bad.

619
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: So pretty much what they what they want is what

620
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: it is there. But there are times like, eh, there's

621
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: something going on that maybe you don't know about that,

622
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: maybe we would rather not having there, so they'll, you know,

623
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: they'll generally work with some. I mean, I don't know

624
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: if you've ever and all those eleven wires, it's a

625
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of footage. Ever been anything? Has

626
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: ever been anything that you like? Maybe there are some

627
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, but nothing nothing that we thought was

628
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: so egregious that we've demanded nothing that was public.

629
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: But I remember one of the super Bowl parties, okay,

630
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: remember we had they had like the there's a PG

631
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: version and then there's like a rated R version. Okay,

632
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: remember one of the super Bowl parties we had like

633
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: the rated R ship of Yeah, that was there's some

634
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: stuff there that I was like, I wouldn't have gone

635
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: well if it.

636
00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: Went public, Well it didn't. So yeah, so see another way,

637
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: we're connected. We are connected, man, connected.

638
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: Now, what's the biggest misconception of Bill Belichick?

639
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: Well, seeh I butter you up, Butter you up. Eventually

640
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: we're going to get to the sign on the door.

641
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, speak your job, speak for yourself, Speak

642
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: for yourself. That's on the way out. You know. Can

643
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: you my last day there, when I left, my last

644
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: day there, I saw I saw on the door. Speak

645
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: for yourself. I'm gonna remember that today for the rest

646
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: of this conversation. But anyway, nor the noise, the hype,

647
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: manage the expectations. Speak for yourself. That's on the way out.

648
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: What's on the way in. Do your job, work hard,

649
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: be attentive, and put the team first. Put the team first.

650
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, this is this is the

651
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,719
Speaker 2: way of life. Man. This isn't like mottos and slogans.

652
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: It's not. So what's the misconception of building? How many

653
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: times he said uh F and Foxborough Hi? I mean

654
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: I was in every meeting for twenty years. For twenty years,

655
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: maybe he said it every day on the field or

656
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: in privately. I wasn't there, so I didn't hear it.

657
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: Like the amount of times I hear, you know, I

658
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: could get someone from Foxboro. He didn't say it that

659
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: many times. He did not say it that many times.

660
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: It makes it be twice a year if it happened

661
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: to maybe maybe twice a year.

662
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Okay, you out of one hundred meetings.

663
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: Some guy making eight, ten, fifteen million dollars sitting there

664
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: watching film and he hears that, he's gonna remember that.

665
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: So it may have only been twice a year.

666
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: But if you were on the team for six years, Okay,

667
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a math guy, but that's twelve times.

668
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: But not all directed at you.

669
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: No, but you hear Foxborough High, it's because it's gonna

670
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: stick out because they can't execute a snap.

671
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't because you know, you know, couldn't make a

672
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: play in triple coverage. He couldn't you do a snap

673
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: or two yard past. So that's the biggest misconception, is

674
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: Foxborough High. That's the biggest misconception. But that's a everyone here, guys.

675
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: Foxborough High never happened because no, no, no, no, I

676
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: didn't say never. It's not as much as people think

677
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what else about Bill. He's funny. I mean,

678
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: I think that's starting to come out. A very funny

679
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: guy sometimes like he's not trying and you you know,

680
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: you try to suppress the laughter, but he can be

681
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: very funny. Well.

682
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: His his way of getting at you is through like

683
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: statistics and numbers, like and his knowledge of the game.

684
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: He'll sit there.

685
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: And he'll prove a point by bringing back an all

686
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: time great that he coached, and he'll give out the

687
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: actual number of snaps, the number of plays that you've done,

688
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: and you know.

689
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: This is what this? Did you know?

690
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: That's his way of getting But it's kind of like

691
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: you're sitting there like that's kind of funny.

692
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: Another one i'd say, you know, and not that he

693
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: doesn't get after players. He gets after players and staph.

694
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: For sure, there's you know, there's yelling, but it's not

695
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: like it's not all the time in your face. To me,

696
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 2: it's not that you're trying to avoid that. You're trying

697
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: to avoid the like the most slight expression like you

698
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: screwed something up and you're gonna get like that's all.

699
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: Did you see that? I don't if you even noticed that.

700
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: I saw that one. You know, it's not like it's

701
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: not in your face, like that's a parcels fear like

702
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: that could happen. But with Bill's more of those types

703
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: of things that you're trying to avoid.

704
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: It's kind of like disappointing your father.

705
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to disappoint the guy.

706
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: He was like, he didn't have to say anything. Is

707
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: or the way he hit the Remember he hit the

708
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: podium so hard. He hit that podium hard because I

709
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: was right there. Yeah, I was, guy's got some cowbos hands.

710
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: You guys, did you watch the roast?

711
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: Was that the roast? Yeah? This is a yeah, I was,

712
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: I was there. That was that was something else that

713
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Man, I went with Billy out we

714
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: had we were actually out there. We were out there

715
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: because there was some Boston College alumni events we were

716
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: out there for, which is awesome, and it just so

717
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: happened to coincide. So we went the whole thing. Just

718
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: walking into the forum starting with that, like that's pretty cool,

719
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: just knowing the history and all the stars and everything,

720
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: the photos on the walls and stuff, and then you

721
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: go in and it's like this you know high and

722
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: you know extravagant event and then like, okay, this is nice.

723
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: Lots of people around and here we go, lots of laughs.

724
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: It feel weird going to the Patriot roast, the Tom

725
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: Brady roast, whatever the roast was with Billy O as

726
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: a BC guy. Uh well, you guys, you guys were

727
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: both in it, so you guys felt.

728
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're close enough to it. I didn't. I didn't.

729
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: I felt, you know, more inside than outside on that

730
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: just because all the people and yeah, you know, but

731
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: a lot of laughs and a lot of moments like

732
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 2: I did that, like several times, there's as our table.

733
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how this came about, as me Billy,

734
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: Michael Crabtree and Charles Woodson and one of their guys like,

735
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: that's our table. And then at the next table, Kim

736
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: Kardashian and her crew. You probably know that. You probably

737
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: know right next to come on, right, it's army and

738
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: let's see army. And right there.

739
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 5: I did.

740
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 2: I was going to after, but she went the other way. Whatever.

741
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: I mean, well, who knows. Next time? Next time I

742
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: went and saw Andrew Schultz instead. He was nicky Lazer,

743
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 2: was very funny, really good. No, there's like professional athletes.

744
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: You know, people think I could do that. I did

745
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: that in high school. I could you know, I could

746
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: have done that. These comedians and you can't do that.

747
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: You're not a profession you can't do that.

748
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: These comedians like they there, that's their that's their environment,

749
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: that's the mojo.

750
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

751
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 5: But after seeing Bill for all these years and knowing

752
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 5: Bill for all these years, how do you think Bill

753
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 5: did up there?

754
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: Right? I mean I was happy that people got to

755
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: see that. Oh yeah, because we see that and we

756
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: know that, and I mean I was happy he got

757
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 2: out basically alive. You know, he took some shots, he

758
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: took some shots, but you know, it was like arapeutic.

759
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: It was like a big therapy session.

760
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: I was just wondering, like I was wondering as like,

761
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: hopefully this stuff isn't going to carry over, like that

762
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: was what happened at the roast. Days at the roast,

763
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: and now we move on, like or is the bar

764
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: changed as the standard changed? Oh what do you think?

765
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four?

766
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: It's fucking there is no bar, no bar, no bar, bears,

767
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: I like bars.

768
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: Before we move on from the roast, you just mentioned

769
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: earlier that some of Belichick's humor was in like stats.

770
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 4: He gave Amandola one at the roast.

771
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: That was good. Well, you know a little back and

772
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: forth there, there is, there's some back and forth so

773
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: which maybe goes back to something that you know about.

774
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: I don't know, you just sit back and forth, back

775
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 2: and forth.

776
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: So when when someone goes and says something about Bill,

777
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: who's the person that brings the information to Bill that

778
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: someone said something about Bill?

779
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm not I don't know what happens outside of me.

780
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's me sometimes probably other people sometimes, like you know,

781
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: I keep them informed even now I might shoot him

782
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: an email, but I just you know, you know, it's

783
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: ingrained in me.

784
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta kiss the rings as a godfather.

785
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: It's a relationship.

786
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: Now, well segue to you dipped into it being it's

787
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: a way of life, a patriot. It's a way of life.

788
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: What does the patriot way mean to you? Bear? What

789
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: is this is a hard big jay journalism?

790
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: I know it's not it's not a term, you know,

791
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: it's not really a term that was used in the building, right. Yeah.

792
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: For me, it's like never thinking that you're there, never

793
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: thinking you're even good enough. You always do more like

794
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: you could be there however long you want and had

795
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 2: a good day, but there's well I could do all

796
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: these other things, you know, and we'll get to that

797
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: the next day. Always chasing something I don't. I can't

798
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: really name any of the real champion, true patriots that

799
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: cared about credit, you know. No, it was not only

800
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: just things about like we have to do this, this

801
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: and this, but it's also like, well, we don't need

802
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 2: to do all these other things, you know, like let's

803
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: focus on what matters, you know what I mean.

804
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always tell everyone that, you know, like what

805
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: everyone in his ass I go. I don't know, Like

806
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: it was accountability, dependability. It was almost being afraid to

807
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: be the guy totally.

808
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that fucks up. Yeah, because you didn't want to a.

809
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: Let your teammates down, your coaches down, be be embarrassed

810
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: about it, right because everyone's putting in the effort, you know.

811
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: And I always tell everyone else. So you know, Bill

812
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: had a template and he had his rules, and he

813
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: didn't really necessarily enforce them. It was the leaders on

814
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: the team that enforced the laws. So like he was

815
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: Congress and the leaders were fucking the sheriffs out there.

816
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: We don't make the laws, yeah, we enforce them for them.

817
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: So who would bears be in this in this analogy, I.

818
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: Think bears would probably I don't know government terms very well,

819
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: but where would you be, Bears?

820
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: I'd probably helped make some laws for him and a

821
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: team and the lobbyist. Not really, that's not my nature anyway.

822
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: I make a suggestion and back it up with something.

823
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: They will always listen to anything you have it backed

824
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: up with something.

825
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: I tell that to everyone too. Yeah, everyone thinks this

826
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: whole collaborative narrative. Bill will take information from anyone. But

827
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: if you give him information it's fucked up information. You're

828
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: probably gonna be in the god doghouse. You don't want

829
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: to be in that goddamn doghouse. That dog house is

830
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: about seventeen miles away.

831
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: I help pass some legislation. I also help enforce it,

832
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: like with support staff, because all the things you just

833
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: said about. Don't want to be the one, don't want

834
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: to be the weak link, don't want to be the

835
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: one to say I fucked that up, which everybody says sometimes.

836
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: Like that applies to the support staff too, because we're

837
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: all in it together. Like, yeah, it's a massive organization,

838
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: big billion dollar business. But in the end, everyone's on

839
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: top of each other all the time. Like it's very close,

840
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 2: you know everybody, so you see what they do. There's

841
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: no hiding. Yeah, especially in a football locker room. Man,

842
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: you guys can sense things quickly. What do you mean?

843
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: Like what like, no one who's legit, no one who

844
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: we can count on.

845
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: Given stories of any guys coming up to you saying,

846
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: suggesting or seeing one of these scenarios of being in

847
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: the locker room where guys can just sniff the fear

848
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: out of someone.

849
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: Right. No, I don't have a specific story on that.

850
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: I just know that you guys are very in tune

851
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: to just human nature and and people were also as

852
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: I say, and you can tell through the sense of

853
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: humor too, like it comes out you know what. We're

854
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: in tune too.

855
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: We're in tune to knowing that anytime we posted anything

856
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: on the internet that we could be getting a call

857
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: or a knock or a hey, coach will see you,

858
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: or hey, why don't you come over here?

859
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: Okay, that's true. Now can you take that's true?

860
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: Can you take us through the social media scanning process

861
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: that we had in the.

862
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: I didn't get on to social media until like recently,

863
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. I started Instagram. So I

864
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: wasn't like, I'm not that I'm not out there like

865
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: scanning the internet. Yeah I can do that, but I'm

866
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: like scanning. I'm not scanning Twitter. Other people are well

867
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: versed in that, so it comes it comes to Bill is.

868
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 2: Bill is famous for saying I could just be sitting

869
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: at my office mining my own business and stuff comes

870
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: to me. That happened a lot of times with social

871
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: media stuff too, where it would just come to me

872
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: because every everyone knows we want to know, so if

873
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: they see it, it comes. Let me ask you this though,

874
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: like how many times did you not post something that

875
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: you wanted to post constantly? Okay?

876
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 4: My team, yeah, okay, we lived in fear for ten

877
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 4: years about that. Can we do this, Let's word this

878
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 4: this way, let's do this. You never want to get

879
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 4: jewels to get the knock because if he got the knock,

880
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: we got the knock.

881
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Okay, and so how did it all turn out? We did? Okay?

882
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: Could have been better, couldn't. We're always chasing man, So

883
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: that's what that's what the next chapter is for.

884
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: He was in talking about this, like scanning for social

885
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: media what players can get do? Was there a level

886
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 4: of like earning it too? Because we noticed as jewels

887
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 4: kind of got along, the leash got a little bit

888
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 4: longer for jewels.

889
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: For Devin, you know.

890
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: For.

891
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: Post a lot. Yeah, he did a post a lot

892
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: maybe his last year or so, but posted about a lot, right,

893
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: that's different, man.

894
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 5: You know you're doing it right.

895
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: Control what you can control. Yeah, some guys did get

896
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: more leash, but most No, you remember the posts that

897
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: we because guys were talking about it.

898
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: When I told the story about Bill being in the

899
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: hot tub?

900
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did he ever come up to you?

901
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: Did?

902
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: Did he hear this story? Ever?

903
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: Has Bill heard of any of our stories?

904
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean I can't I honestly I can't remember that

905
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: exact reaction. I'm sure it went something like, what the fuck? Yes,

906
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: there's no way he absolutely knows that story, right, No

907
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: question that one didn't slip through. Come on, what are

908
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: we doing?

909
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 5: What are we doing?

910
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: There's a fucking rule. We can't go Nuncle Berry in

911
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: the goddamn hoteb. I don't care if no one's in there. Yeah,

912
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 2: I don't disagree.

913
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: How has that changed over time? Though, like has he got?

914
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: He's clearly got and a little looser.

915
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: Right with the whole. Maybe shouldn't have snapface. You know

916
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: Bill's you know, I bet you never thought you'd see

917
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: Bill in the media, right, No, wouldn't it be great

918
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: if he got on social media at some point snap

919
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: face just asking is he's signing a deal with Snapchat?

920
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: I don't know he's launch snap face right right, No, No,

921
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 4: he's gonna guys, he's gonna own it.

922
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: Check from bears is joining only fans for content, exclusive

923
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: coaching technique content with his toes dangly now stop it

924
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: cut that out.

925
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 4: Serious note by the way, like only fans, it has

926
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: one part of it, but also other stuff. If just posted,

927
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 4: if Bill was not only fans, just posted old game

928
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 4: plans of old games, it would blow up everything and

929
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: be incredible, just purely for the.

930
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: Football junkies, that's the question. But anyway, where were we

931
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 2: the threshold of show yeah stuff, No, no, no, no,

932
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: it was the threshold of him loosening up, which I

933
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: think he did. Yeah, maybe we shouldn't have.

934
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: Was there one specific time anyone did something super crazy

935
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: on social that you could specifically remember him Bill, Like

936
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing?

937
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: Her bears? Can you go get remember? Uh you remember them? Remembers?

938
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 5: Do I love? Yeah?

939
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: Good great guy, great guy, fun guy, you know, good player.

940
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: Well one it was off season, of course, because you

941
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: know most things happened in the off season. He h.

942
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: He posted him shooting shooting guns in the backyard, like

943
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 2: the backyard, not a range or like the backyard, just

944
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 2: there's a target there, Like, yeah, that's not what we're

945
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: looking for. The coin of phrase, like it's not what

946
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 2: we're looking for. But he didn't. Only Matt posted that. No,

947
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: this is like you you said, this is a good

948
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: idea to go post. Yea one didn't go well that

949
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: that was a that was a letter in a conduct detrimental.

950
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: Conduct detrimental. You know what conduct detrimental is. That's that's

951
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: that's more.

952
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: That's the more serious offense. That's a serious offense. So

953
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: there are different types of categories of discipline. There's being

954
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: related to a meeting, missing a meeting, losing a playbook,

955
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: being overweight, and things like that. That's one category, and

956
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: those have specific finds associated with them that are collectively

957
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: bargained and they go up year by year. Then there's

958
00:48:55,040 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: another category. Another category called conduct detrimental, which there's no

959
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 2: set fine amount. It's up to one week's game check,

960
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: and that could be things like disobeying coaches, you know,

961
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: being disruptive within the team, firing guns, and posting anything

962
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: that casts the organization in a negative light, such as that.

963
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: There's a long list, speeding in the parking lot, speeding

964
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: in the parking lot. Burning something in a hotel room,

965
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't care, not a candle, incense, anything, If it burns,

966
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 2: leave it.

967
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 5: The fuck out. And you're a noted candlesman.

968
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: You love your candles, all right, man, you have to

969
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: have to do that somewhere else, not in your hotel.

970
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: You can't do it. The conduct detrimental is more serious

971
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: that then that has to go to the NFL. Has

972
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: that fine letter, has to go to the NFL, has

973
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: to go to the players Association, and you.

974
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 5: Guys determine the find amount.

975
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's up to yeah, so there you know.

976
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: Now, how many times did you have to like talk

977
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: Bill off the ledge of conduct detrimentally finding Matt light.

978
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: Not that many, I don't think, Matt. See that's smart, dude.

979
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: A man knows how to take it to the edge.

980
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: You know, and it's hard to really go after him.

981
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 2: I don't know that Matt ever got it.

982
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: Was Bill scared to go at Matt Light because of

983
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: the pranks that Matt Light would doodle?

984
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: No, no, by scared?

985
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: Did you did you hear the email exchange?

986
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: Oh? I heard? I heard. He still think Matt doesn't

987
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: believe me. But I didn't have anything to do with that.

988
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: I really didn't. I remember that, I remember the mouse.

989
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty good. Pretty good. Got a hundred

990
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: other ones in the locker room that I'm sure I

991
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: don't know about.

992
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: Was there any of those on that episode? The Matt

993
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Light episode. Everyone you guys got to listen to that

994
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: were tremendous?

995
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: I heard it.

996
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: Was there run any jokes or pranks that he left

997
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: out that you remember?

998
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: Well, there's not. With Matt, there's there is one. Drew

999
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: Drew was He was the godfather of it. I think

1000
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: that's probably where Matt got it from. Is Drew bluedselling.

1001
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: He was legendary for doing stuff quarterbacks. And he's told

1002
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: those stories like filling filling Tom's car up with like

1003
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: the peanuts, right, you know things. I'm not a big

1004
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: practical joke guy. Man, I'm just there to work.

1005
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: He's a patriot. There's the patriot way.

1006
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: He's just there, proud of a baby to work.

1007
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 5: Come on, whoopy cushions over here, Come on, let's we

1008
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 5: got work there.

1009
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: Grab what's going on in staff meeting?

1010
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: When Matt light pulls this ship, it's what is like

1011
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: Scarnakio saying, like during this whole because you're in those No, I.

1012
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: Wasn't in a lot. I mean I was in the

1013
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: Saturday night night before the game staff meetings and some

1014
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,959
Speaker 2: off season ones, not the everyday ones when they're talking

1015
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: to practice film and they gain you know, game plans

1016
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: and stuff. They don't need me for those. Man, you

1017
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: gotta all other stuff to do.

1018
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what kind of action will get a not good?

1019
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 2: Not what we're looking for?

1020
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 4: So Matt told the story where the it was about

1021
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 4: the email thing where he said something or the buzzer,

1022
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: and he said specifically that you said the first thing

1023
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 4: that walked in was not good. So what kind of

1024
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 4: thing we'll elicit a not good from you?

1025
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: There's a term believes is a term in football and

1026
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: elsewhere it's below the line. You know, if something is

1027
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: below the line, then we just can't have it, you know,

1028
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: jumping off side, jumping off side, like shocking a damn

1029
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 2: coach at his desk, Like that's just that's below the line.

1030
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: Every time to have the balls and the audacity to

1031
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: fucking a sneak into the head coach's office. Let's let's

1032
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: put it. Let's paint the picture. This isn't an office

1033
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: that we all just like, hey, coach, how.

1034
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 2: You doing, coach? We don't do that.

1035
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: I went in that office maybe three times, four times

1036
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: in my career. I was there for twelve years, and

1037
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: three of them were like over con track stuff, and

1038
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: after that one was suspended like.

1039
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: That covers it. That covers it.

1040
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: And so for bat Light to go in there and

1041
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: have a full beanie of breaking an entry and like.

1042
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: It was, you know what, I look at it this way.

1043
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: It's a grind. It's you guys. What you guys do

1044
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: is a grind, and like very few people can or

1045
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: would even have the mental toughness to go through it.

1046
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: Everybody's got their way of getting through it, you know what.

1047
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: And that is probably his way it is.

1048
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: And I think Bill appreciated guys that did that kind

1049
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: of ship. Not he may not have showed it and

1050
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: he may have yelled, but like he knew how big

1051
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: of a grind it was for us. And it was

1052
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: because the guys like that light and the rich Ornbergers

1053
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: and the guys that brought some light.

1054
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 2: Rabel.

1055
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't see. I wasn't you got any good Rabel stories?

1056
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm a well, we'll do that one. I

1057
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: have a great it's probably been told. All right, you

1058
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: know what, there's too there's too much. There's too much.

1059
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

1060
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 2: And you know during rookie skits and other joke times

1061
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: where like we don't need to get into like male

1062
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 2: you know, sexual conversation, Like it's too much like guys.

1063
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: I don't understand why the guys did use that humor,

1064
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: but the Vrabel thing kind of goes down that pas.

1065
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna leave that out.

1066
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: What was the best rookie skit that you ever remember?

1067
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: Uh? Wow, there's so many good ones. I mean, there

1068
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: was a guy going way back to the offensive lineman

1069
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: he did it. He did a pretty good Charlie Wise impersonation,

1070
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 2: really good. I think it was Dan Stevenson from Notre

1071
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 2: Dame but probably never played. But he could eat butter,

1072
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: he could eat but no But back to what you're

1073
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: saying about Bill, Like I totally agree, Like he knows

1074
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: that you need more than just like robotic activity all

1075
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: day long. Yeah, but he also knows like who he

1076
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: is and what his his game is and isn't. So

1077
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: if he's not, he's not going to go do that.

1078
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: But if someone else is going to do it, then

1079
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: now we have it. Yeah, it doesn't need to come

1080
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: from him, comes from Light or Rabele or you know,

1081
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 2: Dan Stevenson. Dan Stevenson, all right, was a rookie Actually,

1082
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: uh no, it wasn't a rookie skip because Bill was

1083
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: in it. It was just it was kind of like

1084
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: just a team building thing that we broke the team

1085
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: up and the coaches and everybody had a role in it,

1086
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: and they enacted they reenacted like a Broadway musical and

1087
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 2: Bill actually sang in this. I remember O number nine

1088
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: now in front of the team. That was a memorable one.

1089
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: Not a rookie skip, but it was kind of like

1090
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 2: talent show ish event. So so Bill's got well, what

1091
00:55:53,760 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: year was this? It's probably around twenty twenty, maybe this

1092
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: is when? When was this the right before I think

1093
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: it's probably right Easter?

1094
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: Was this the Jack Easter b thing where instead of

1095
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: doing rookie skits we all had to like.

1096
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 2: Do between things could have been in there. Yeah, I

1097
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: remember that.

1098
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: Where the where is that footage?

1099
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: Well something something's wow.

1100
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: Access Oliver's Twists starring Bill Belichick.

1101
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 5: It is Broadway debut.

1102
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this quick break. All right,

1103
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: all right, let's get back. We're gonna talk about New York. Yeah,

1104
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: let's let's go back to nineteen ninety seven, September fourteenth.

1105
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: This is a segment we like to go over pop

1106
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: culture things around the time the game took place.

1107
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: Number one movie was The Game?

1108
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 5: You were this movie?

1109
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 2: I remember I didn't see. That's a great movie.

1110
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 5: Great San Francisco movie too.

1111
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 2: Great San Francisco movie.

1112
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: Honey by Maria Carrey was number one song. We all remember,

1113
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: huh Julian favorite.

1114
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 5: Yes, I do love the real heads know your love

1115
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 5: for Mariah Long Island Baby.

1116
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: You speaking of music, you used to pick the practice music,

1117
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: din't you.

1118
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am a music I'll say I enjoyed that.

1119
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard to please a football team because

1120
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: you got a lot of There's so many, so many

1121
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: times you could listen to here's where you start. I'll

1122
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: tell you where it actually started. It started with for

1123
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: crowd noise. To simulate crowd noise at practice, we just

1124
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: played this is way before you just noise static, just yeah,

1125
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: like that was our noise. And it was brutal, brutal.

1126
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: So then we went to music and it was probably like, oh,

1127
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe O one oh two, and I'm

1128
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: playing I'm playing some hip hop song with you know,

1129
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 2: regular lyrics, the lyrics and uh not clean, not clean,

1130
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: and and I'd been doing this and then one day

1131
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: un pleasant who was a veteran defensive lineman kind of

1132
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: like I mean, not quite Matt Slater, but along those

1133
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 2: lines of Matt Slater of the team at that time,

1134
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: and he went to Bill and he said, like, seriously,

1135
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: I do not want to hear some of these words.

1136
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: Of course, build on say anything to me. So play

1137
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: it again, Miller practice. But it comes over what after

1138
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: you playing those songs? You know you can't play the

1139
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: cleanler Okay. So from then on it was all clean lyrics,

1140
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 2: hip hop, rock, bon Jovi and Springsteen. That's where you start. Yeah,

1141
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: maybe bon Jovi and Springsteen start until you know that

1142
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: gets old ish Bnjovi never gets old. But so then

1143
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: we had it in country whatever.

1144
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: Who who is the number one guy to come up

1145
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: to request music?

1146
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: You guys?

1147
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: Let me pay the picture for you guys. Bears would

1148
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: be out there like like dip lo. He had the

1149
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: man a few big speakers and he had a turntable

1150
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: and you'd see it there with his iPod and ship.

1151
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of a practice. Yeah, day, a

1152
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: star of day? What is a rainy? Moss's song was

1153
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: always a Friday practice. Every day?

1154
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: Star is b It was a jay Z.

1155
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: Every time Bears would throw that on, Rady would look

1156
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: at me, go, this is what they played on my birthday?

1157
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 2: The Moss Man. I love them. I love that guy stories.

1158
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,959
Speaker 2: I got some Moss stories. But you know what, who

1159
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: was it? Steve CASCALSI he was. He was adamant about

1160
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: some songs now Christmas specific, Christmas song specific.

1161
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 5: He was, Wait while we're on music, can I butt

1162
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 5: in here real quick? Bears? I was creeping on your

1163
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 5: Instagram before this, just to do my due diligence and prep.

1164
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 5: How the heck was the Dead at the Sphere?

1165
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: I was sous best show I've ever seen it. I

1166
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: mean show I've been I mean I've been a dead

1167
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: fan a long time. They love their music. I mean

1168
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: it just for for me all that, it just works.

1169
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: So I saw them here Fenway last year. I thought

1170
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 2: it was great, and they that was the last tour,

1171
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: that was it. And then here they are residency at

1172
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: the Sphere and I was like, I gotta do it.

1173
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: So just it really no dates work, So I just

1174
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: made the date work. Memorial Day. I was going alone,

1175
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: but then I found a guy came with me and

1176
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: we went and it was just it was incredible. Just

1177
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: it's like an Imax. You've been in an Imax theater,

1178
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: but it's that times one hundred. Yeah, it's crazy.

1179
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 5: It looked incredible.

1180
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: And it's mayor, I mean John Mayer's he's the tragician.

1181
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into the game, Jack, can you

1182
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: set the stage for the New York Football Jets.

1183
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 5: Got to start out with the Jets. This is the

1184
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 5: first year of the Big Tuna era Big tun which

1185
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 5: is pretty crazy, and the first year of the Bears

1186
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 5: era and the first year of the Bears right.

1187
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: Well, actually no, I started at the Jets mid season

1188
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: in ninety five. Okay, I was I know it was

1189
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: before I was before this this actual regime came in,

1190
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: which is great for me. It was awesome because to

1191
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: go back one step further, I started at the Knicks

1192
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 2: as an intern total slap you know, in the ninety

1193
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: four season, okay, and media relations. It was a media

1194
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 2: relations intern, and it was awesome. Like I'm from New York. Okay,

1195
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: I'm in in the end. I mean, I'm Bostonian now,

1196
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: but in my heart, I'm a New Yorker and New

1197
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: York the New York sports scene is where this all

1198
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: started for me. And when the Knicks are going like

1199
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 2: they were going pretty good this year, like there's nothing

1200
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: like it in New York City. So I was with

1201
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 2: the Knicks when they were going pat Riley, Patrick Ewing,

1202
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: all these guys that they show now, John Starr, I mean,

1203
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: I could name the whole team. So anyway, I started then,

1204
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: and I was at the Knicks for a couple of

1205
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: years and that's when Van Gundia, but I wasn't full time.

1206
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: That led to a job at the Jets in media

1207
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: relations because the organizations knew each other. Whatever one thing

1208
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: lent to another. Now I'm at the Jets, but I

1209
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: continued working at the Knicks just on game days, and

1210
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: it was amazing. Like I sat there, like at the

1211
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: door where the celebrities and the media came in and

1212
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: handed out credentials to tickets to like whoever it was,

1213
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: and just like now, like there were some notable people

1214
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 2: coming through there, media, Spike. Actually Spike, he was a

1215
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: season ticket holder, so he had his tickets, but it

1216
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: was the people that would come just for the game

1217
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: and you know, need their ticket rules, you know, like

1218
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith when he was a writer, a basketball

1219
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: writer at the Philadelphia Choir. You know, like a lot

1220
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 2: of people that you know, kind of moved up like

1221
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: all of us, you know, they were something else in

1222
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: the mid nineties. So the Knicks is and the Knicks

1223
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 2: were very corporate, the very corporate organization owned by Viacom

1224
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: and now Cable Vision, and it was an office building

1225
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: in New York City. It was amazing. I took the

1226
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: train in from Long Island every day. And so now

1227
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: I'm at the Jets and it's very different. The Jets

1228
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: were I own by a family, Leon Hess of hess Oil,

1229
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 2: and it was a family not even a family run organization.

1230
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 2: Because he wasn't around that much. He was around a

1231
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: couple times a year, so it was really kind of

1232
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 2: like a mom and pop type of organization. And I'll

1233
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: jump ahead and down. The Patriots are a mix of

1234
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: both run like a business, no question and killing it

1235
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: as a business, but family run thin at the top.

1236
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 2: So my first two jobs was kind of like both

1237
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: ends of that. The Patriots kind of mixed it all together.

1238
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: But I started the Jets midway through the ninety five season.

1239
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: Team was horrendous. As much good fortune as I've had

1240
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: in football, it didn't start that way. Three and thirteen

1241
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: my first year, one in fifteen the second year. So

1242
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: four and twenty eight is the first two years as

1243
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: this is not what I remember at the Knicks, and

1244
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: then here comes the new regime. Now Bill Parcells from

1245
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: New Jersey, a New York Ey like all the way

1246
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: baseball fan, like New York Giants like baseball fan, Knicks fans.

1247
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 2: We had a little connection on that won Super Bowls

1248
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: at the Giants, and just a New York guy. So

1249
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: he was like welcomed, beloved in New York. And you

1250
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: could tell right away like this is gonna this is

1251
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 2: gonna be a totally different deal. Like if there's things

1252
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: are a little loose. Well, we're going opposite, you know,

1253
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: that's just him hard nos tough in your face like

1254
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: no bs guy like Bill Belichick, pat Riley, Bill O'Brien,

1255
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: and so that that was the new kind of vibe

1256
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: around the team, and there were some good players. It's

1257
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: kind of like, I mean, not quite as good, but

1258
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: it's a little like the Patriots when Bill Belichick got there,

1259
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: where there are great players in place, but just you know,

1260
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: hadn't quite gotten to where there were a few years before.

1261
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: Jets had some good players now. To me, like I

1262
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 2: think about this stuff like the history of rivalry, like

1263
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: I grew up in New York and like the Yankees

1264
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: and the Red Sox in the old days the seventies

1265
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: and the eighties when they're brawling like legit brawls and

1266
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: games Thurman Munks and Carlton Fisk and like Bruins Rangers

1267
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: fighting fans in the stands, like there was some serious

1268
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 2: rivalries going on. But this this one took it like

1269
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: to a different level because it wasn't as much on

1270
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: the field. It was like the off the field stuff,

1271
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: the off field drama with coaches and front office and

1272
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: players switching teams and the whole New York Boston rivalry

1273
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: and even at that time, and I know this because

1274
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: I was one of them. I grew up in New York,

1275
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: went to school in Boston, College in Boston. There was

1276
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: a lot of that going on in that eighties nineties

1277
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: where there was an influx of young people from New

1278
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: York going to college in Boston. That brought a whole

1279
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: new kind of aspect to it of the rivalry, and

1280
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 2: then this game was kind of took it to the

1281
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 2: next level.

1282
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 5: It's it's like I was trying to think of any

1283
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 5: like how to equate it to a modern sort of

1284
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 5: rivalry and just can't. Like with the coaching changes of

1285
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 5: the players, change of the back and forth.

1286
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 2: Like like Andy Reid going to the Raiders it's keep

1287
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: right and they're being messy on his way out with

1288
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, and then the best player then Mahomes having

1289
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean just a quick little this is one thing

1290
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: with Curtis Martin, he's on the Patriots. It's like that

1291
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: three years or two or three years, you know, good play,

1292
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: very productive player, had some injuries. You know, if there

1293
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: was a there was a contract aspect going on where

1294
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: the Patriots going to sign them where they're not going

1295
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 2: to sign them. So Parcells love Curtis Martin from his

1296
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: time at the Patriots, so he signs Curtis. He was

1297
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: restricted free agent. He signs him to an offer sheet

1298
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: to come to the Jets. Okay, in this offer sheet,

1299
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: it says that Curtis Martin has to be the highest

1300
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 2: paid player on a team. I can't do this now,

1301
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: and the Patriots couldn't match that because blood Cell was

1302
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: there and he was you know, the Patriot didn't have

1303
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: an established quarterback. It was Neil O'Donnell, the old from

1304
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: the old regiam Is Glenn Foley Boston College, so they

1305
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: could do that. That is since that's also one of

1306
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: the many rules that have come up probably out of

1307
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 2: this rivalry as well, is that that poison pill for

1308
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: in the contract that you can't do that anymore. So

1309
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: he went. So Curtis Martin ended up going to the

1310
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: to the Jets, having a Hall of Fame career. Jesus,

1311
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 2: that's that's just one thing.

1312
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 4: I mean, this game that we're covering is his highest rushing.

1313
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 2: Touchdown, right. I think he had like seven carries on

1314
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 2: the game winning drive in overtime in this game, like

1315
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 2: the you know Patriots had a really good team. Let's

1316
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: I'll give you one more. Who's on the sideline in

1317
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: this game for the Patriots. Pete Carroll's the head coach.

1318
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: Turned out to be quite a I mean good higher

1319
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: then and he's you know, National Championship of College super

1320
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: Bowl on the end. So great coach who a few

1321
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: years before head coach of the Jets for one year.

1322
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 2: They fired him after one year. So Pete Carroll was

1323
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Jets. Yeah, people don't really

1324
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: talk about that as much in this game, but you

1325
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 2: know there's another one.

1326
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 4: So I'd love your because I didn't realize that you

1327
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 4: were in the Jets organization before Parcels came in. What

1328
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 4: was the vibe, the buzz, what was going on from

1329
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: the Jets perspective when Parcels started the rmblings of potentially

1330
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 4: joining the Jets while he was under contract with the Patriots.

1331
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: From what I recall, it was, if you can get Parcels,

1332
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: you get Parcels. Now, remember the team is four and

1333
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,560
Speaker 2: twenty eight, so if it wasn't Parcels, you know, it

1334
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: could have been somebody else coming in. You know as

1335
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 2: a new head coach anyway. But if you get Parcels

1336
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: that instant credibility right away and whatever he wants he

1337
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: gets and he was gonna do and you're gonna get better.

1338
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 2: Team was in the NFC championship game the next year,

1339
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 2: twelve and four season. But yeah, that game, the Patriots

1340
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 2: were good, the Jets were not good. So the pressure

1341
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 2: was all on the Patriots. You gotta win this game.

1342
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 2: You can't let this guy leave the way he left

1343
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: and come back Week three, National TV, Patriots are two

1344
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: and zero and win like that would have been disastrous.

1345
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 2: So the Patriots had to win that game and barely did.

1346
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 2: I mean they were a better team, but took a

1347
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 2: lot of body blows on the way. It's like Rocky one,

1348
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: Rocky Rocky won, Apollo wins, but a lot was that

1349
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: week of practice and prep. How was that week in

1350
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: New York? In New York it wasn't nearly what it

1351
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 2: was I think up here, because you like all the

1352
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: information was there like newspaper and you know, the radio

1353
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 2: like that was it. You could tell like up here

1354
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: it meant everything down there was like the team's just

1355
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: kind of getting started here try and try not to

1356
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: piss him off, I personally, because I was into this stuff,

1357
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 2: like I wanted to win. I wanted to win it

1358
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 2: for him because I knew it was a big deal

1359
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: for that. But within the team, I think they could

1360
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: sense it. You know, once theuses are getting pelted, Like

1361
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: the Jets buses didn't get pelted very much at one

1362
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 2: and fifteen, like one of fifteen, busy get pelted.

1363
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 5: Nine and seven.

1364
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 2: You're getting pelted though ninety seven this year.

1365
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 5: This year, big what a turn I mean, incredible turnaround

1366
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 5: in one year go to one in fifteen and nine

1367
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 5: and seven is just.

1368
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 2: Notice, yeah, and right on the edge, like you know,

1369
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 2: right on the edge of the playoffs.

1370
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 4: So something that kind of gets lost here a little

1371
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,919
Speaker 4: bit because there's a couple of times with coaching intrigue

1372
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 4: back and forth between the Jets and the Patriots. Is

1373
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 4: during this time here, coach Belichick was named head coach

1374
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 4: for like six days, right and coach Parcels was coaching consultant.

1375
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: Even that was uh, you know during those times, the

1376
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: policies and the rules like it was a lot different

1377
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,440
Speaker 2: than it is now. There are a lot of loopholes

1378
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 2: and gray areas, and you know, they were operated in.

1379
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: But even that one was too far and the league

1380
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,799
Speaker 2: stepped in and had to broker a deal. They couldn't

1381
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 2: just you know, let them be there as a consultant, mister.

1382
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 2: That the staff started getting built, like Bill Belichick was

1383
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 2: the head coach and Scott Peoli was hired and Mike

1384
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 2: Tannebaum and things were kind of like set up. How

1385
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 2: much Bill Parcells was, you know, involved, I'm not really sure,

1386
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 2: but back the fact that Scott Peoly was brought in

1387
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: and he was a Bill Belichick guy, means that Bill

1388
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 2: Belichick was making some decisions. Scott didn't have any connection

1389
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: with Parcels who brought in Charlie he came. That was

1390
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't remember the timing of

1391
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 2: that because he was on Parcels staff. He was never

1392
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 2: on Bill's. They were they were friends and they were close.

1393
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: It was probably Parcels.

1394
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit of the Patriot's Dynasty brain trust

1395
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 4: inner circle was developed on this Jets team. Can you

1396
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 4: speak a little bit to that. You mentioned Peoli, Mangini yourself.

1397
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 4: Can you just talk about how that kind of happened

1398
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 4: in New York?

1399
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 2: Right, Well, Scott with Scott Pioli in particular, he goes

1400
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: back to Cleveland for several years with Bill Belichick. So

1401
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: they had already like they had already been involved with

1402
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: building a team team together and Mike Tannebaum came kind

1403
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 2: of on the tail end of that. So they they

1404
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: already had a working relationship. They had already done it

1405
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 2: at an organization, and then they took that to the

1406
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: Jets and then add parcels and it and then went

1407
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: from there. So a lot of this actually goes back

1408
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 2: to Cleveland too, with Bill Belichick and Scott, you know,

1409
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: and Mike and Eric too. He's definitely in part of this.

1410
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 4: And what was your process to kind of because you

1411
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 4: were with the district before, to kind of get inside.

1412
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: So like I said, like I was in media relations, okay,

1413
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,440
Speaker 2: And if you're in media relations and in the department

1414
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 2: of five year five, you don't have natural crossover with

1415
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,480
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator assistant head coach Bill Belichick like that

1416
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: that something has to happen. What happened was and it's

1417
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: actually a story that I tell people and my kids about.

1418
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 2: You never know. So when I was at the Jets

1419
01:12:56,439 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 2: in the previous regime, one of my jobs was to

1420
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 2: work with the radio broadcast crew during the game and

1421
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: right down stats like things that happened. Like they didn't

1422
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: have all these great instantaneous things you'd have to maybe

1423
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 2: for TV, but not for radio. So I did a

1424
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: lot of things by hand, and I would like give

1425
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 2: notes to the announcers. One of the announcers, the analyst

1426
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 2: was Dave Jennings. About the name of Dave Jennings. He's

1427
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 2: a great guy, passed away way too early. He was

1428
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: a great punter for the New York Giants in the

1429
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 2: late seventies early eighties. Like Giants weren't very good, he

1430
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: was the at times he was the best player in

1431
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: a team. But he was a Pro Bowl punter. And

1432
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 2: Bill coached him when he was he coached special teams

1433
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 2: at the Giants. I don't know this. I don't know

1434
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, but Dave was a radio analyst like the

1435
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 2: Scott Zolac Okay of the Jets, and he was a Giant.

1436
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 2: And in New York, people are very passionate about their sports,

1437
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: just like Boston, very passionate. But in New York there's

1438
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,480
Speaker 2: most two teams for every sport. So yeah, you got rivalries,

1439
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 2: you got Yankees Red Sox, but you got it, also

1440
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: got Yankees Mets. You know, there's a lot of tension there.

1441
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, so the Giants and the Jets like

1442
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 2: their enemies, and it went up at that time. I

1443
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 2: don't know what it's like now, but at that time

1444
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: it was a front office thing too. Like the Jet

1445
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 2: people didn't really like the Giant people. So here's Dave

1446
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: Jennings known as a Giants player, even though he played

1447
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: the Jets a couple of years at the end of

1448
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: his career. But he was a Giant and here but

1449
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: he's a Jet color guy on the radio, and he

1450
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: was blunt. He would tell it like it is. He

1451
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 2: didn't sugarcoat anything. He would hammer the team. He'd hammer

1452
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: the team when he went on the radio just as

1453
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: a guest. And they didn't like him very much. But

1454
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: what do I know, Like, I'm twenty something years old,

1455
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm there, I'm at practice, I'm talking to them. I

1456
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: like the guy. So he became friends. Well. A few

1457
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 2: years later, incomes the new regime. Incomes Bill Belichick as

1458
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: part of the new regime. Dave Jennings introduces me to

1459
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick because their friends from back of the Giants

1460
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 2: that's kind of where it got started. And you know,

1461
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: I was kind of in that little circle of Bill,

1462
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 2: Scott Pioli, like Tanne Beum, Eric Mangini and that that

1463
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: was kind of it. So that's how it kind of

1464
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: got started. So the relationships which you know all about

1465
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: do I, Yeah, it.

1466
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: Was that, like, yeah, that was were they a close

1467
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 1: knit group that whole little eventual Patriot coaching staff, Like

1468
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria where those guys al We's sitting next

1469
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: to each other like talking and was at their rat pack.

1470
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it would be yeah, go out, you know, not

1471
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 2: do that so much anymore, but it would be like,

1472
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 2: go out somewhere. We went to the Belmont together. It

1473
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: was the end of it was the end of mini camp.

1474
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: It's pretty funny. It's the end of mini camp. Was

1475
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: the last practice and then we get in the car

1476
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 2: and go to the Belmont, fill up the trunk with

1477
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: some beverages, get there. Bill's drive in. Bill's driving. We

1478
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: pull in and it's a mess, like we don't have passes.

1479
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: We're just kind of driving in and we got stopped there.

1480
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 2: We're just trying to park and the guy's like, you

1481
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: can't go here, and Bill points over. That's Eric Mangini.

1482
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: Let us in say, nobody doesn't know who says Bill's

1483
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: not funny.

1484
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 4: We also there was a very limited media on you

1485
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 4: when we're doing some research, but we found an article

1486
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 4: from two thousand drove up that skip ahead a little

1487
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 4: bit that when the Patriots or when Bill moved to

1488
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 4: the Patriots, you guys all drove together from New Jersey

1489
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:35,480
Speaker 4: to Foxborough.

1490
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was Bill driving me and Eric.

1491
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: That was that was a group that came up. What

1492
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 2: kind of car by station wagon? I bet it is

1493
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 2: a Bill station wagon?

1494
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: I think that's Bill did have that station wagon that

1495
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,799
Speaker 1: he was driving in that ninety five Brown's footage.

1496
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,679
Speaker 2: Was it a station what's.

1497
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 4: The conversation like that, It's like, oh, we want to

1498
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 4: do this. Is it already in work mode thinking about

1499
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 4: what to do when you get to New England or

1500
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 4: is it just like, hey, we should stop at this

1501
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 4: last deli that's the last New York della.

1502
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably there's probably some of that, and it was

1503
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: probably just how the how's this day going to go?

1504
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 2: With the press conference and you know, just what's happening

1505
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: in the next immediate hours and day. That was two thousand.

1506
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: You know the three people who started the Patriots in

1507
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 2: two thousand, three people. I mean there's more than three people.

1508
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 2: But the what in the year two thousand. It was

1509
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: Bill's first year, It's Tom's first year, and my first year. Man,

1510
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good company.

1511
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 5: Talk about a trio.

1512
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I kid, I kid, Come on, man, Ernie,

1513
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: Ernie came back.

1514
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: Ernie did too. Yeah, after killing it out there in

1515
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 2: the business world. We won't get into that.

1516
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 5: He got We're gonna get stocktcks out him one of

1517
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 5: these days. Yeah, we were getting the good luck.

1518
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 4: Let's jets real quick. Let's do Pats real quick.

1519
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, run through these these Jets real quick. As

1520
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 5: we said, nine and seven narrowly missed the plays. Huge

1521
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 5: turnaround from the year before one in fifteen, mo Lewis

1522
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 5: We all know Lewis the loan pro bowler this season,

1523
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 5: this was the first winning season for the Jets since

1524
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 5: eighty eight. So, I mean, Bill Parcells came in and

1525
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 5: it made that immediate one year, one year, the tuner

1526
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 5: knew how to turn things around, and.

1527
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 4: We did the same thing with the Patriots. Took him

1528
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl like that.

1529
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 5: This was one year. It was one year after Kishawn

1530
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 5: was drafted number one overall in the ninety six draft.

1531
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: Good great guy, good friend of mine. Didn't you work

1532
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: with him? Yeah, he was the first pick in a

1533
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: draft and he came like in ninety six and the

1534
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: first thing he did is come to my office and

1535
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: we just kind of hit it off right away. La

1536
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 2: guy had some of our Mantian friends.

1537
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, getting into its in this game too.

1538
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 2: He did had a great touchdown and mo Lewis had

1539
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:47,879
Speaker 2: a touchdown. They forgotten what lewis patriot moment. He was all,

1540
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 2: he's doing the interception for a touchdown.

1541
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

1542
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: Which he outran Sean Jefferson had the wheels, baby had

1543
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: the wheels.

1544
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 5: And if we were and we're talking this Jets roster,

1545
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 5: we've mentioned these games. We've mentioned the Neil O'donnald's. We

1546
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 5: got Adrian Morrell, I mean he carried the ball three

1547
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 5: hundred times, the Godfather. You took the words right out

1548
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 5: of my mouth.

1549
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 4: Him Jules have a similar place style. I've been told, Yeah,

1550
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 4: we're both white.

1551
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: More than that. And go look up the photo of you.

1552
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,719
Speaker 2: What are the similarities of our game?

1553
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 5: Get open and catch the ball, simple as that, get

1554
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 5: open and catch the ball, simple as that.

1555
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 4: Should we roll on the real quick?

1556
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,759
Speaker 5: This was the ten and six Patriots seem pretty loaded

1557
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 5: roster on both sides of the ball. We mentioned it

1558
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 5: before then. There are even some names that carried over

1559
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 5: into the Belichick era that you guys would know, the

1560
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 5: Willie McGinnis, the Tie Laws, the lawyer Malloy's of the world.

1561
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 5: Scott Zolac was backing up Bledsoe this year. It was

1562
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 5: the first Troy Brown first year.

1563
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: The can of the Jets, love so love soo. You

1564
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: know has a fake I is that the rumor?

1565
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 5: I think? I think there. I don't know exactly he's

1566
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 5: got a I don't know exactly what you.

1567
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 2: Got to ask him.

1568
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 4: Had an incredible touchdown.

1569
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: In this It'd be pretty incredible if he was an

1570
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback with one eye. Debt per section go ahead.

1571
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 5: This was the first year of the Pete Carroll era,

1572
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 5: as we mentioned, uh. This was Bledsoe's fifth year in

1573
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 5: the NFL, so already pretty established in there, played under

1574
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 5: Parcels all those years and they kind of butted heads

1575
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,080
Speaker 5: a little bit, is that right? Burge a little.

1576
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 2: Parcels Bill and Bledsoe, I think, I mean I wasn't here.

1577
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 5: Oh man, I got.

1578
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 2: I've heard yeah, okay, And he does that with all

1579
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: this the same thing with Phil Simms.

1580
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, we've Phil was on here telling the stories.

1581
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 5: The plane ticket is in the drawer.

1582
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 4: I think, just audience think the big takeaway from this

1583
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 4: Patriots team is that talking about this Parcels Belichick Jets

1584
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 4: Patriots kind of back and forth, that this Patriots team

1585
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 4: the core was really kind of a Parcels left over

1586
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 4: that became the Belichick pick up for the early part

1587
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 4: of the dynasty in the Patriots organization.

1588
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 5: And this was to say, yeah, for sure, and two

1589
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 5: more points we got to hit before we move on.

1590
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 5: Coming off of lost in Super Bowl thirty one, we

1591
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 5: lost to the Packers Terry Glenn's second year in the

1592
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:15,480
Speaker 5: NFL two and lost in the division around of Pittsburgh

1593
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 5: to another coach with another good name, the chin baby,

1594
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 5: Bill Cower, Bill Coward.

1595
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 4: We kind of already covered the Parcels exit already, so

1596
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 4: we can kind of we dig some some research on

1597
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 4: the compensation for the draft picks back and forth, no

1598
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 4: one really of note to really mention, so just kind

1599
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 4: of that the League stepped in. There was some back

1600
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 4: and forth. Parcels was pretty much out the door before

1601
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 4: while the Patriots were playing in the Super Bowl. Some

1602
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 4: intrigues and back and forth. We mentioned the consultation, the consultant,

1603
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 4: the head coach of Belichick and then led us into

1604
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 4: this game.

1605
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 2: Our memories coming back up.

1606
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: Parcels like, so, what is the first thing, what's that

1607
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 1: first memory of Coach Parcels after working with him for

1608
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, your five games, and.

1609
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: Now this is like my first memory of him period.

1610
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: My interaction with him was maybe like I don't know,

1611
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 2: it's probably like a couple of months into his time

1612
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 2: at the Jets, and like, I don't really have anything

1613
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 2: to do with him. We had a head of media

1614
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 2: relations and someone else. But I got called up to

1615
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 2: his office. The coach wants to see you. So okay,

1616
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 2: I go up there and walk in and he goes.

1617
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,560
Speaker 2: I think he said something about the Knicks because he like,

1618
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: you know, he's always had let's say, that's one of

1619
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 2: the things about Parcelsy. He has something with everybody, like

1620
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 2: a little connection to kind of break the ice or

1621
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 2: have a little personal rapport. So that was that was

1622
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 2: it with me. But then he said, you see this,

1623
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 2: and he takes out this laminated piece of paper. The

1624
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: NFL schedule for next season had just come out, so

1625
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: all the games are listed for each week, but on paper.

1626
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 2: So he had this one sheet and on one side

1627
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 2: it was week one, Week two, Week three, and then

1628
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: on the top it was all the teams at l

1629
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: ar z c AR all the way down and then

1630
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 2: in each box and there was a grid of two

1631
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty six games. Who's playing, who, the time

1632
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 2: of the game, and where it was in the day,

1633
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 2: Like if it was not a Sunday, if it was Monday,

1634
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 2: you put m o wan ivers a Thursday. T So

1635
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: can you do this? Okay, I'll do it and walk

1636
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: out and there's a lot of information. But so and

1637
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: I'm about to leave his office and he goes, hey,

1638
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: just remember this one wrong, all wrong, okay, coach, not

1639
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: like I did do a good job with this, thanks

1640
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: a lot one wrong. All wrong, you know, And that

1641
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: means like center it properly, and you know it's a

1642
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: lot of information. It's not hard, but it's details. So

1643
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't f this up. Was he a

1644
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: guy of those a million sayings? Yes, he had a lot. Yes,

1645
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: he had a lot of sayings like, I mean, there's

1646
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 2: if they don't bite as puppies, they're not going to

1647
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 2: bite as a dog. Meaning if a rookie isn't tough

1648
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: when you get them, ain't gonna get tough. Can't buy toughness.

1649
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 2: So I stayed up like all night and they had

1650
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 2: my mom double checking it.

1651
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 4: You know, did Jewels bite as a puppy?

1652
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely has anyone talked about the playoff game. It's

1653
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 2: a horrible game. Playoff game in two thousand and nine

1654
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 2: and his rookie year, Ray Rice.

1655
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 5: It's come up a few times. We've never dedicated to

1656
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 5: that hit, right that.

1657
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean Bill has talked about like numerous times with

1658
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: the team, like the best player on the field.

1659
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 5: In that game for us coming out party.

1660
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: We had some good players on the team, but not

1661
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: that day. This was an nine other than him. This

1662
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 2: is nine Ravens.

1663
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 4: So then what happened between nine and when he really

1664
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 4: kind of like stuck on, Well.

1665
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 2: He didn't he didn't say that at the time. Later,

1666
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: but he couldn't se Super Bowls later.

1667
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 4: All right, Jack, let's sorry, let's do this game because

1668
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 4: this was actually sometimes these old games are don't really

1669
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 4: aren't really interesting. Maybe the storyline or the themes are

1670
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 4: more interesting than the actual game play itself. This is

1671
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,760
Speaker 4: a great game with an overtime Adam and Terryfield like

1672
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 4: Jack when he hit us up on.

1673
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 5: Before I get into that, I gotta give my guys

1674
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 5: some shine back to that nine playoff game against the Ravens.

1675
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 5: Six catches forty four yards, two touchdowns.

1676
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: Let's not forget catch just forty four yards. I would

1677
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 2: have guessed more than that.

1678
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 1: I had a good turn too, But let's Bill like

1679
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: the I remember Bill put the punk return on the

1680
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: highlights out of our exit.

1681
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 4: That's the one we how involved you with Bill Tube

1682
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:17,959
Speaker 4: and the cutups.

1683
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,560
Speaker 2: That's all the film. I yeah, I didn't watch. I

1684
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: didn't really watch the game film. I watched a lot

1685
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: of TV copies our games and other games, because a

1686
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: lot of times you get better shots, you get good replays,

1687
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 2: you get officials or announcers saying things that helped make.

1688
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 4: The interview in the staff beforehand.

1689
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, or they just explain what's going on, especially officiating.

1690
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 2: So we had a lot of those teaching tapes or

1691
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: you know, situations to learn from the weird things that

1692
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: happened once in a while that Bill likes to talk about.

1693
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 2: So this is a sloppy game.

1694
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 5: This was a while, one intense from the jump, Foxborough

1695
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 5: Stadium is rocking, rocking. We got the old starter jerseys on,

1696
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,959
Speaker 5: we got the baggy polos, we got the depleted kakis.

1697
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 5: This was I mean, this is peak nineties football. As

1698
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 5: you said, sloppy game, A little bit six turnovers, six turnovers,

1699
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 5: A little bit sloppy, but still exciting. Two block kicks,

1700
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 5: lead changes or ties seven times. It's back and forth

1701
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 5: all night. The Patriots get out start early with a

1702
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 5: crazy sixty three yard kick return, sets up a quick

1703
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 5: strike to Ben Coates. Pats go up seven to nothing.

1704
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 5: Neil O'Donnell, not not a known runner, runs one in

1705
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 5: to tie it up. Then when Patriots knock again come back,

1706
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 5: Curtis Martin punches one in, go up fourteen to seven

1707
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 5: in the first quarter. Then the second quarter of the

1708
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 5: Jets knocking a field goal. We're at fourteen ten at

1709
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 5: the half. Then in the third mo lewis once again,

1710
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 5: I mean just killing bloodsoe any chance he gets this

1711
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 5: time crazy a pick? I'm sorry, sorry, too soon, still

1712
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 5: too soon? Maybe forty three yard pick six. The Jets

1713
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 5: are up seventeen to forty.

1714
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 2: Oh Lewis, and it's got tight. It's getting tight.

1715
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 5: The Eras gets sucked out of that building.

1716
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 1: I hear, what do you mean it's getting tighter. The

1717
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: Patriots had to win this game. They had to win

1718
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: this there's no alternative.

1719
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 2: Had to win this game. And it starts going and

1720
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 2: it actually it's going the other way.

1721
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 5: Now now it's like, oh crap, they got the lead,

1722
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 5: Like this is one of like expectations for this Jets team.

1723
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 5: We're still pretty low after one in fifteen season.

1724
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: It's almost like it's almost like not even well, we're

1725
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 2: gonna win, It's just we got embarrassed the guy. We

1726
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 2: got embarrass it like winning is like, that's that's happening.

1727
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: Like how bad is it going to be?

1728
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 3: Is?

1729
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1730
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 5: Like crazy? Back in now the back and forth really starts.

1731
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 5: Adam Vinitary, mister clutch. This is this is before the

1732
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 5: snow kicks. This is before all that ties it up.

1733
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 5: Seventeen seventeen. Patriots get a stop come back love it,

1734
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 5: Pernales filling in for Ben Coates knocked out. At this point,

1735
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 5: Ben Coates gets knocked out of the game go up

1736
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 5: twenty four to seventeen.

1737
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 2: Late then as we only catch them first catch it Yeah,

1738
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 2: not the ball.

1739
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 5: Not a household name, not no to love it, but

1740
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 5: not a household name. Then we come back. We alluded

1741
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 5: to this one earlier. Keishawn Johnson an incredible back of

1742
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 5: the end zone twenty four yarder from O'Donnell, the one

1743
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 5: time waiting, the one catch. Oh my god, you loved

1744
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 5: you drive.

1745
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 4: How much time left was it?

1746
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 5: Twenty we got like twenty nine seconds left in the game. Yeah,

1747
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 5: twenty four to twenty four? Kickoff?

1748
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: Wait then wait, you know what's gonna happen on it?

1749
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: Sinsuing kickoff the fumble.

1750
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sorry, Harry Colors. I'm sorry, brother.

1751
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: Let's talk.

1752
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,440
Speaker 4: Let's talk through that, because I think that was all.

1753
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: Let's talk about.

1754
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 4: How do you remember the Kishon Johnson touchdown or that drive?

1755
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 4: Do you remember anything?

1756
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 3: First?

1757
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 4: Angel a while ago, but.

1758
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: I already won second. Keishawn and I are friends and

1759
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: we were very close to then. And the fact that

1760
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: he made that catch, and that guy is a competitor.

1761
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 2: Parceles loved him because he blocked, he worked tough, had

1762
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: some personality to him. They really clicked from the beginning,

1763
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 2: and I was I was happy for him that he

1764
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: made that play. That was I mean, that was I

1765
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 2: don't know if the game it's tied without that play.

1766
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 5: Were you in the press box for this one?

1767
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: I was, Okay, yeah, I was. John notes to Dave

1768
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 2: Jennings in the radio, guys, because.

1769
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,839
Speaker 4: The commentary in the from the broadcast was that Johnson

1770
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 4: was a little bit kind of where was he in

1771
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 4: the when we need him the most for the Jets

1772
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. Wasn't a lot of plays they

1773
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 4: weren't really going to him. So this big play at

1774
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 4: the end was kind of like, oh, here he is

1775
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 4: a big moment, big play shows up. Great catch in

1776
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 4: the corner, ties the game or ties the game, right, I.

1777
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: Mean, who's his quarterback exactly? And he's come on, guys,

1778
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 2: all right, take us through what are the announcers?

1779
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 4: Well, so you remember what happened after that, right with

1780
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 4: the Can you walk us through that?

1781
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? The scores? Okay, so now there's what thirty something

1782
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: seconds left? Game is going to go to overtime most likely,

1783
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 2: right right? Right? But no, no, I mean how often

1784
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 2: does a kickoff return get fumbled? Not very oft not

1785
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 2: very often at all.

1786
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo two nine opener, right, remember scared Weather knocked him.

1787
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think I do keep them absolutely the

1788
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 2: same kind of similar situation too. At the end, you

1789
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 2: need a score, right, well, this was tied, so so

1790
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: now so he fumbles, Jets recover and now the Jets

1791
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 2: are going to win like somehow because the Patriots have

1792
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 2: been in control most of the way and there's kind

1793
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: of wacky plays here, and they now the Jets are

1794
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 2: going to win. Just run it down, line up for

1795
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: a short field goal and this is gonna be a

1796
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 2: catastrophe in New England. So line up for the field goal.

1797
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 2: It gets blocked. Rookie giant, rookie John Hall. Right, they

1798
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 2: came in parcels after that. I don't I don't think

1799
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: he I don't think he showed it. But I think

1800
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,560
Speaker 2: after after Keishawan, you saw him after that, after he

1801
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown, I think he thought we might steal

1802
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 2: this game, and it was there to be stolen. So

1803
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 2: now we go to overtime and you know what happens here, Curtis, Yes,

1804
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 2: but for that before that, Patriots, Patriots get the ball, okay,

1805
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: move it a little bit. Interception Otis Smith, his future

1806
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 2: Patriot and Super Bowl contributor. Otis Smith intercepts the ball,

1807
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 2: who tackles him by the way after he intercepts the

1808
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,560
Speaker 2: past Troy Brown made tackle. He might have had some

1809
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 2: room to run with Troy tackle them and never gives

1810
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 2: up on a play San Diego. Troy talked about it

1811
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 2: yesterday with the balls at midfield. So again another chance,

1812
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 2: but nothing happens there as sack or penalty or whatever.

1813
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 2: So now punt it back to New England and then

1814
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 2: Curtis Martin all the way down, all the way down

1815
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 2: the Adam Elementary lines up.

1816
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 1: What's the flight home? You guys lose heartbreak overtime. Should

1817
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: have won that game.

1818
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:55,560
Speaker 2: That game for the Jets is just unfortunate because of

1819
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 2: what it could have been. But it wasn't what it

1820
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 2: would have been if it were if you were the

1821
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 2: Patriots and loss. You know, it was disappointed that, you know,

1822
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 2: you had those games like it. Really it would have

1823
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 2: been nice. You know, it's unfortunate. Were shame to shame

1824
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 2: it didn't happen off on the Jets side for parcels

1825
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 2: and all that and getting the program going. But it

1826
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 2: was a different level than the side the New England side.

1827
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 1: How are you in the locker room at the end

1828
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: of the game when Parcels is addressing the team.

1829
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't really in there. It's probably about the

1830
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: Monday were you there? Were you in a team meeting?

1831
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't really in the team meetings at that at

1832
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 2: that stage of your career. Yeah. I started that in

1833
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 2: two thousand.

1834
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 5: On this game, as we just said, Adam Viniterry knocks

1835
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,719
Speaker 5: one home after an incredible drive by led by Curtis

1836
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 5: Martin in overtime after the Patriots got the ball back

1837
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 5: sixty two yards and nine plays. Forty two of those

1838
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 5: yards were just Curtis Martin rushes. Patriots win twenty seven

1839
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,799
Speaker 5: twenty four. Curtis Martin ran the ball forty times, forty

1840
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 5: carries whatety nine yards? One touchdown, go ahead, guys.

1841
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 4: I pined for this era of football, just like I'm

1842
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 4: just gonna give it to my back and we're just

1843
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:12,560
Speaker 4: gonna go down the field. We're gonna punch it in.

1844
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 4: You're just not gonna do anything about it.

1845
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 2: Oh, sorry to tell you.

1846
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, not thirteen seconds left. Oh we can get two

1847
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 4: scores here.

1848
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

1849
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 5: I like my backs wearing big elbow. You know, I

1850
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 5: mean one of the best, most exciting Week three games

1851
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 5: we've ever even mentioned on this show or ever incredible.

1852
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 2: However much it could get ramped up, That's what it was.

1853
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 2: It was like, I mean different because everyone went, you know,

1854
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 2: obviously the biggest comeback game, come home game is Tom.

1855
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 2: You know, came back with Tampa and that was massive.

1856
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 2: But it was a different vive. It was love for Tom.

1857
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: It was different sort of methods of promotion and hype.

1858
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 2: You know, this was this was kind of old school.

1859
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:05,560
Speaker 1: This is Oldirio. You hate thetriol can. That's a high syllable.

1860
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 2: Word that me and you do not know what did

1861
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 2: Bill saying that you impressed? Unimpressed. I'm just trying to

1862
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 2: follow that lights footsteps here.

1863
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 5: And the storylines continue. After the game New England, we

1864
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 5: get out to a five and one start, finished ten

1865
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 5: and six, losing the division round of Pittsburgh. The Jets

1866
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 5: would beat the Patriots twenty four to nineteen get a

1867
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,160
Speaker 5: little revenge in the Week eight matchup in the Meadowlands.

1868
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 5: Jets would ultimately finish nine and seven, third in the

1869
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 5: AFC East and just narrowly missed the playoffs, but it

1870
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 5: doesn't in there a couple of years down the road.

1871
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 5: But wait, there's more. Paul Tagliabu is earning his money

1872
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 5: between this rivalry. I mean, he's got to be sitting

1873
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 5: at his desk like these guys again, these guys again.

1874
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 5: A couple of years later, back in ninety nine, Bill

1875
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 5: Pauls steps down as the head coach of the Jets,

1876
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 5: and then there's the plan in place for Bill to

1877
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 5: succeed him, right right then Pete Carroll also fired in

1878
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 5: New England in ninety nine, so the New England jobs open.

1879
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 5: Then we infamously get the Bill Belichick spinning one day

1880
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 5: as head coach of the Jets.

1881
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 2: The napkin before we do that, I don't think it

1882
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 2: was a napkin, by the one. It was no napkin. Huh,

1883
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 2: No napkin.

1884
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 5: What was it?

1885
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 2: A piece of paper?

1886
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 5: Okay? Okay?

1887
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 4: And who does he give this to?

1888
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:33,679
Speaker 2: My understanding is he gave it to the team president,

1889
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 2: Steve Govan.

1890
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 5: This was at the press conference, like this was?

1891
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,600
Speaker 2: This was I think the day before okay, maybe the

1892
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:41,799
Speaker 2: morning off, I can't remember.

1893
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 4: So before we get to the actual resignation in the Patriots,

1894
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 4: I just watched the Two Bills documentary NFL Films last night,

1895
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 4: Ken Rogers Shadow n F Films, We Love You.

1896
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 2: I Love You.

1897
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 4: There was a supposedly a fax that came true from

1898
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 4: the Patriots organization to the Jets organization saying they wanted

1899
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 4: to interview coach Belichick to potentially be their head coach.

1900
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 4: There's some intrigue, there's some stuff. Do you have any

1901
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 4: insight on on what happened there?

1902
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 2: I think it was taken and bald of and throwing

1903
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,759
Speaker 2: out that's what I heard.

1904
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 4: And that led to parcels resigning to kind of trigger

1905
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 4: like this.

1906
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that. I think that it was. The intent

1907
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 2: was this doesn't mean anything because other contractual things are

1908
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: in the works underway, so's invalid. The uh, the processes

1909
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 2: of requesting permission and all that. Like, it's come a

1910
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 2: long way, It's come a long way.

1911
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 4: Do you you're interstructle with coach Belichick at this time?

1912
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 4: Do you have any conversations about this going on? Or

1913
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 4: is he operating on his own with just all this

1914
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 4: information and wanting to move some stuff?

1915
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: So how does Bill get you to we got a

1916
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 1: napping gait whatever? This that whatever not an a piece

1917
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: of paper out there? How does Bill ask you to come?

1918
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Hey, Bears, you come with me?

1919
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: How'd he ask you?

1920
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 4: Bears?

1921
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 2: You know you've worked really hard. You know you're a

1922
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: New York guy. Like what? I don't think there was

1923
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 2: ever one like specific conversation on this like Bill got.

1924
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,839
Speaker 2: Bill was interviewed for a job the previous year, the Raiders,

1925
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 2: and you know how it is like we started, we

1926
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 2: formed a relationship and you know, we talked about things. Whatever.

1927
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't specifically like, all right, I'm getting this job,

1928
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 2: this is your job, let's go do it. You just

1929
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 2: kind of get a vibe like you want to kind

1930
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 2: of feels like we might have a future together. But

1931
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 2: it wasn't a specific moment in time. Never huh.

1932
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 1: He always keeps you in that gray. He always keeps

1933
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: you that grey. Is that is Jedi mind trick?

1934
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that's an overrated thing too,

1935
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 2: about like how calculating he is on every last thing,

1936
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 2: Because he is calculating on a lot of things when

1937
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 2: it comes to football, but not every last thing. So

1938
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 2: many press conferences that he was laid for. He was

1939
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,640
Speaker 2: coming from a meeting where he was locked in on

1940
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 2: whatever that was, And thirty seconds later he's in a

1941
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 2: press off. He wasn't just going over like every last

1942
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 2: thing he was going to say and message to put

1943
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 2: out there, like he's not that smart. Oh he's smart,

1944
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 2: and he probably did do that sometimes. But is this

1945
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,839
Speaker 2: a little bit urban legend?

1946
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure. I mean he wasn't saying Foxboro

1947
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 5: High every minute like everyone says, Napkins, this.

1948
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 2: Is see this is bullshit. Three ring no pad?

1949
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, like a gentleman Napkins over here? Could he's

1950
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 5: a number at a bar? Come on, man, we're just

1951
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,480
Speaker 5: spelling rumors. I like, we're debunking over here today MythBusters

1952
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 5: Games with Names Edition.

1953
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 2: I like it.

1954
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 5: But but just to wrap this up and put a

1955
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 5: neat bow on it, Bears, could you help us since

1956
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 5: you live through this and you were on the ground,

1957
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,640
Speaker 5: boots on the ground in the building. Kind of the

1958
01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:54,839
Speaker 5: timeline of events of Bill getting hired by the Jets, Parcels, resigning,

1959
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 5: and then making the jump to New York, like how

1960
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 5: that played out? Just the card of events?

1961
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 2: So was it, Napkin? And then you guys just got

1962
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 2: in the station wagon and this was something? These are

1963
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 2: like ten these are tense times here tense times. I'm

1964
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 2: not like and again I'm not in the parcels like

1965
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 2: Jets executive circles all the time. I'm not like meandering

1966
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 2: in and out of these conversations. Yeah you are. That's

1967
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 2: a different you know what, different me? That was the

1968
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:26,560
Speaker 2: That was the old me.

1969
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 4: There was a there was a line in the New

1970
01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 4: York Times where it says, where you position yourself on

1971
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 4: every press conferences out of sight but with an earshot.

1972
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 2: I tried. I was actually in that press conference. I'll

1973
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 2: never forget where it was like in the Jets auditorium,

1974
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 2: was like halfway up on the left side, just watching.

1975
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 2: Like one thing the media doesn't like, especially like New

1976
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 2: York media or Boston. They don't like things that take

1977
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 2: them completely by surprise. They don't really like that, especially

1978
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 2: if they don't have like they didn't see it coming.

1979
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 2: They don't have a great explanation. That's that's not like

1980
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 2: great area.

1981
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 1: It's like a movie like Bill's just going up there

1982
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: and then he announces He's not going like ah, yeah,

1983
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: what's going on?

1984
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 4: He like winks to the camera and then that's the

1985
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 4: end of the season.

1986
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 2: Flash next season, Patriots like a.

1987
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 4: Smirk like a season succession, season two ending.

1988
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 5: I still remember those Jets Cadillac step in repeats that

1989
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 5: were always behind the body.

1990
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 2: Right, you know who had the Cadillac deal, Bill Parcells.

1991
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:30,280
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, he drew up. That was his car, Cadillac.

1992
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 2: I think he drove it, like to Florida. He didn't

1993
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: like to fly. I think he drove it when he

1994
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 2: went down there and in a winter, you know, like

1995
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 2: right after the season until whenever he came back.

1996
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 5: He drove thatbile.

1997
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 4: That's such a new New England or Northeastern like New

1998
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 4: Jersey kind of like going to Florida.

1999
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 5: Move doesn't take lit up the Cadillac.

2000
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 4: We're going to Florida. So to kind of wrap up

2001
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:53,559
Speaker 4: this thing, maybe the borrowface for you, what's the theme

2002
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 4: of this Coach Belichick Jets to Patriots transition transfer that happens?

2003
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:03,679
Speaker 2: What is the drama? Drama and that's all we're just trying,

2004
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 2: we're trying to eliminate distractions. Well, that was the wrong

2005
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 2: place for you, because that's that's a lot of drama.

2006
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:14,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the that's the Patriot jet theme that

2007
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 2: the drama. Yeah, just drama never stopped, never stopped. The

2008
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:20,759
Speaker 2: music never.

2009
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 5: Stopped Dead Reference Baby, and we came on.

2010
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: And it never stopped that you know what, you know,

2011
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 1: it's crazy that little car ride in that station wagon.

2012
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 1: Little did we know about six seven years later when

2013
01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: no little man Genie takes jet job.

2014
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 2: I thought we'd all just be in your car.

2015
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: I thought we'd all be in the car just listen

2016
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 1: to dead Bruce Springsteing Bond Job. And then you know,

2017
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, man Genie, you know a drama, drama,

2018
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:50,679
Speaker 1: and that's the theme.

2019
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah drama. I forgot. I don't know what you're talking about.

2020
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 2: Two blinks for yeah drama.

2021
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 1: Well, could Bill have built the success that the Patriots

2022
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 1: had with the Jets if he were to be the

2023
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 1: Jets head coach right now?

2024
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he could. I think the Jets are

2025
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 2: just right.

2026
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 4: Let's go sorry to every frim alternate reality coach. Belichick

2027
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 4: was named head coach for that day, had things worked

2028
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 4: out and he stayed. Do you think he could have

2029
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,719
Speaker 4: built what was built in New England in that organization,

2030
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 4: with what was the pieces that were there?

2031
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 2: Well, I know that Bill already knew how build how

2032
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 2: to build a team. He built one in Cleveland. You

2033
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 2: can go. There've been documentaries about the nineteen ninety five

2034
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns and what that eventually became. So he knew

2035
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 2: how to build a team. It would be a reach

2036
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,679
Speaker 2: for me to say it would have been six super

2037
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 2: Bowls and all that, because as you know, and I

2038
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 2: feel I get the question. You got the question, Bill

2039
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 2: or Tom whatever, it's everybody, man, It's everybody to everybody.

2040
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 2: So it helps to have the best at the two

2041
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:05,840
Speaker 2: most important positions, head coaching, quarterback, Like it helps to

2042
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:10,759
Speaker 2: have that. I was gonna say three best positions football ops, quarterback,

2043
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 2: head coach. Yeah, sorry, so being honest, Yeah, if you

2044
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 2: got everybody else, because that's it didn't just happen, and

2045
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 2: it takes people. You know. Did he ever talk.

2046
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 1: About what he learned in his time in Cleveland, Belichick

2047
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: like the mistakes, Like on the car right up with

2048
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: you and Manginie. Was he sitting there like, all right, guys,

2049
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'm probably not going to do this one.

2050
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 1: We're not going to do the PB and J Live TV.

2051
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he mentioned that, but he form of

2052
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 2: team building and football standpoint, Now, he didn't not with

2053
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 2: me so much. I'm sure he had those conversations with

2054
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 2: Scott Pioli and Ernie because those are the guys that

2055
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 2: really kind of set the tone to building the team.

2056
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 2: But from my standpoint kind of off the field, it was, yeah,

2057
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 2: he was too much in the weeds and the details

2058
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 2: on everything, even things that are important but someone else

2059
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 2: can handle. Yeah, you know, see the big picture more,

2060
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 2: which he definitely said that. You know, even though he

2061
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 2: probably still feels like he's in the wiz and a

2062
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 2: lot of stuff, but maybe not as much as it

2063
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 2: was in Cleveland.

2064
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 4: So delegation and like building an organization team that you

2065
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 4: can trust to handle those kind of things.

2066
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he definitely said that. How do you sum up

2067
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 2: Parcels Jets era, it was becoming more professional outfit. Yeah,

2068
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,600
Speaker 2: they're good players there when he got there. Yeah, and

2069
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 2: then he added some more, but it was about running

2070
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 2: a professional program, which you know what that is is details,

2071
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 2: it's work. It's like not losing a game, not losing

2072
01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 2: a game, seriously, not losing a practice. Yeah, no question.

2073
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 2: Every day manters bear shaming guys out of the training room.

2074
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 3: What is that?

2075
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 2: That means that if if you can be out there practicing,

2076
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 2: then be out there practicing like Rabel would do this

2077
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 2: like you you didn't see it, but like there'd be

2078
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 2: like some young guys in the training room, like you

2079
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,759
Speaker 2: get them out of there. You can't make the club

2080
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 2: in the tub. Fact, you can't make the old club

2081
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 2: in the tub.

2082
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 4: After we're a bathing suit in the tub.

2083
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: Yes we I mean we have gray shorts. Oh my goodness,

2084
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,600
Speaker 1: communal shorts. You don't want to just be sitting in

2085
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: the hot tub and all sudden, I.

2086
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 5: Know, unless your name is Bill Belichick, Unless your name

2087
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 5: is Bill Belichick. Right, and he left over questions, Jack,

2088
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 5: I got a bunch, I got a million, but I'll

2089
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 5: set on one.

2090
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 2: You got to get another plug for BC. We got

2091
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Billy. Oh, we gotta get Billy O

2092
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 2: on too.

2093
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 5: You want to get on.

2094
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 2: He talked about you all night.

2095
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 5: I still don't believe. I still don't believe.

2096
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 2: But he wor's Jack, I was next to I want

2097
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 2: to believe.

2098
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 5: I love Bill Billet. We miss I almost said hey,

2099
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 5: but we were in like room and it was awkward. Along.

2100
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 2: It's a long coffee break that I just took.

2101
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:08,520
Speaker 5: All right, all right, last one there's it's Bill Belichick

2102
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,759
Speaker 5: has become sort of infamous for the postgame press conferences,

2103
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 5: the on to Cincinnatis, the all of these these soundbites

2104
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 5: that have like may taken on lives of their owns.

2105
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 5: Is it true that, like from Cleveland and over the years,

2106
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 5: you were sort of the Belichick whisper of how to

2107
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 5: craft the news conference and to soften some of those

2108
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 5: edges that may have been there in Cleveland?

2109
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,200
Speaker 2: Probably probably some of that, okay, but not all Like, Okay,

2110
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 2: Bill is Bill, Like we didn't rehearse, Okay.

2111
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 5: I didn't know if there were coaching points on the media.

2112
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are some coaching points on you know, delivery.

2113
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 2: Listen Bill's Bill in the end. But I think if

2114
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:52,719
Speaker 2: you watched the Cleveland version, the new England version probably

2115
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 2: looks a little different.

2116
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 1: So what's he gonna look like in the next version?

2117
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, what do you know? I

2118
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 2: don't know? But what I do know? What do I

2119
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 2: What do I want? I want to know?

2120
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2121
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 2: What do you want to know? Let's just do a

2122
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 2: little let's just do a little control, Let's do a

2123
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 2: little what ifs. I know we don't have a big

2124
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 2: in the what if game, but what a hypotheticals.

2125
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: What if the Dallas Cowboys go eleven and six South

2126
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 1: losing the first round, fire the coaching staff bring in Belichick,

2127
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 1: bringing Josh McDaniels, bringing Scott Pioli, and they have one

2128
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 1: guy that they're calling, Hey, bears, are you gonna come

2129
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 1: join us?

2130
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 2: Are you on that?

2131
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 1: Are you are you gonna go on? Are you gonna

2132
01:47:37,439 --> 01:47:38,600
Speaker 1: circle up with the wagon and.

2133
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 2: Go go Eagles? Listen? In January? Okay, look like there

2134
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 2: was a decent chance he was going to Atlanta, like

2135
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 2: some legitimate interviews, right, and then he didn't go to Atlanta.

2136
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 2: Billy O'Brien was the offensive coordinator. Ohiose state? And now

2137
01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 2: is that b Sie? You don't know? It's going to

2138
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 2: go so crazy?

2139
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 1: Tune Go Eagles, stay tuned, Go Eagles. Oh so oh,

2140
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 1: this is so if Sirianni goes eleven and six and

2141
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:15,280
Speaker 1: they fired him after a first round EXO Boston College Eagle.

2142
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:21,720
Speaker 2: Est in College? What's the fight song? We have a

2143
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 2: fight song. There's a fight song Billy loves to play

2144
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 2: out of practice. Oh my god, I haven't learned the

2145
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 2: whole thing yet, so I'm new, just trying to learn. Man, Jack,

2146
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 2: where did we go, we missed anything.

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01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 5: We're pretty darn clean this episode. Thankfully. Charlie Wise did

2148
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 5: indeed get his start in the Parcels regime with the

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01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 5: Jets back as a coaching assistant.

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01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Coaching assistant, So Charlie's office used to have. We used

2151
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 1: to have an office dedicated to Charlie.

2152
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 2: If people had no idea, people had no idea, people

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01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 2: had no idea. It was just referred to as they

2154
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: had no clues. He had never coached before because it

2155
01:48:57,920 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 2: was years after he was gone. But it wouldn't go

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01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 2: me in Charlie's office. WILLI oh had Charlie's office? He

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01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 2: did for a while when I was there.

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01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 4: Just said he had his own office where he would

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01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 4: blast John Mayer out of after our hard practice.

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01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 1: Can you confirm that I had? I had a couple

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01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: offices bears.

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01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 2: Nos, love John Mayor, We love Mayor. We'll be right

2163
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 2: back after this quick break. All right, let's name the game.

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01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 1: This is a segment where we score the game, we

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01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: name the game, and uh, you're the guest, so we're

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01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,719
Speaker 1: doing the name of the game. We have the Tuna Bowl,

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01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 1: we have the Tuna melt Down. Their return of the

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01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: Tuna Bill mcgeddon or the Spicy tunabl or anything that

2169
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:48,719
Speaker 1: you can think of. What is the name of this game?

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01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 2: Week three ninety seven Jets Pats.

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01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 6: Name of the game bears like the Tuna Bowl tunabyl

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01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 6: there it is the tune up Bowl, the Tuna Bowl.

2173
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 6: Name co which is coming back and playing against his

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01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 6: former team. Let's score the game? Is this the greatest

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01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 6: game of all time? Let's score it?

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01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 1: Stakes one to ten decimal's okay, bears the stakes of

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01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 1: a week three game.

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01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 2: Steaks because there are lots of different stakes. There's standings,

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01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 2: there's I'd say, oh, what's my what's my scoring system?

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01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 2: One to ten descinals?

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01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 1: Okay, decimals one.

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01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:32,120
Speaker 2: There's some high stakes in this game. High one mean rible. Yeah,

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01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm going nine nine steaks nice regular.

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01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 5: Stakes high regular line but means very high.

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01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 1: And then also the rule changes because of all the

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01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: contract tamp rings and this and that and can they go?

2187
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 2: Is he the head coach? Is he not the I

2188
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:50,719
Speaker 2: mean this is a lot of a lot of snakes.

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01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 4: Star Power Jewels had a six point nine jacket of

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01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 4: seven point three. I had a six point nine as well.

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01:50:55,040 --> 01:51:01,160
Speaker 2: Okay, star Power okay. Hall of Fame coaches everywhere, coaches players,

2192
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 2: it would be a maximum Hall of Fame players, Curtis Martin,

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01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 2: ty Law, Adam to be quarterback, you know, Drew Patriot

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01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, other tons of patrio. I'm going uh,

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01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go nine as well.

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01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jewels, you had a seven point eight jacket, a

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01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 4: six point two.

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01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,439
Speaker 2: Oh wow, seven. They're hard graders.

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01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 4: Whether you just did a game with what twenty two

2200
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:27,560
Speaker 4: Hall of Famers, super Bowl nine versus Vikings.

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01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 1: Game, Player of the game, little sloppy six turnovers, but

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01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 1: it was for the viewer kind of fun, especially nineties.

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01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,040
Speaker 2: I'll go I'll go lower on that one. Let's go

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01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 2: six six.

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01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 4: Jewels had a seven point seven. Jack had a seven

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01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 4: point ninety seven point six.

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01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 2: And the name of the game the Tuna Bowl. That's

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01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 2: a classic classic name because you know, you know it's

2209
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 2: a good name when there's they actually named, you know,

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01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 2: have sequels Tuna two three, like they had other ones.

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01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 2: So I'll go, uh, eight and a half on this one,

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01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 2: eight and a half. Yeah, he's Jewels with an eighth.

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01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, say Jack with an eight point nine and myself

2214
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:05,719
Speaker 4: with line.

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01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 1: A seven to seven to one. Where's that stand in

2216
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 1: our games that puts us okay to.

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01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 4: Above another Jets Patriots game that can't wait game.

2218
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 1: Can Rich Eisen he wanted, he requested that game, Bears.

2219
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 2: It's a bad game. He's a Jet fan.

2220
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: Because of that, I had to tell his sweet beautiful

2221
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: wife that I will not come over for Shabbat dinner

2222
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 1: because he requested this this dinner.

2223
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:32,719
Speaker 5: We don't forget for this game. We don't forget.

2224
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,719
Speaker 4: It's also just behind, only one hundredth of a point

2225
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:39,599
Speaker 4: behind the Super Bowl twenty one Giants versus Broncos Bears.

2226
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 2: Do we miss anything? I think I think you covered

2227
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 2: it pretty good.

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01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: Do we cover it pretty good? Or is there something

2229
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: else just sticking in that sponge of a brain you have?

2230
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 2: We plugged. Maybe I'll be back. You never know. You

2231
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 2: know you're coming back.

2232
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 1: And if you're happy, we got something to plug other

2233
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 1: than Boston.

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01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:00,240
Speaker 4: One more thing is we're talking about Boston College. I'm

2235
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 4: a big Virginia Tech guy. Is the ACC gonna make it?

2236
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 4: What's happening?

2237
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 2: He'll make it? I mean the a C look sec

2238
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 2: and and no, it's still football revenue whatever, it's eighty

2239
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 2: percent or more like Okay, I'm just married. But in

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Speaker 2: terms of revenues and all that. The third behind of

2241
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 2: like thirty conferences. It's behind a big ten of the

2242
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 2: a SEC with a longer TV contract. So ACC is

2243
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 2: not going anywhere. I don't think. I don't. Obviously we will.

2244
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot still to be ironed out here, but

2245
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 2: I think they're on the right Jack, Charlie Breaker, Charlie Baker, Baby,

2246
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:35,799
Speaker 2: Charlie Baker.

2247
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 4: It's an ECC podcast, I'm gonna say, Charley, Jack disagrees.

2248
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:42,639
Speaker 2: Okay, you see what else?

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01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 1: A lot of good things going on there, A lot

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01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: of great things at Boston College.

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01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming to what else? We got some Armenia updates.

2252
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 2: We don't want to go there going it'll be it'll

2253
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 2: be powerful, it would be very powerful. Yeah, there's a

2254
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of unfortunate things happen over there.

2255
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 2: A lot of you get that don't get the publicity

2256
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 2: that other crises get. It's too bad. It is a

2257
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 2: bigger fish to fry in this world at times. But

2258
01:54:09,280 --> 01:54:13,680
Speaker 2: our meetings are very resilient. But we are recognizing that

2259
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 2: here on Games with Names. Thank you, we are a

2260
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 2: right big deal. Bill.

2261
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 1: We love you, Bears love you, and I appreciate you

2262
01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 1: coming on. It's it's been awesome to pick your brain

2263
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 1: in a different way than I usually do, just walking

2264
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 1: by your office and drawing a little picture on your

2265
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 1: your whiteboard or something.

2266
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 2: He did, he did, You know what? My a favorite one.

2267
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 2: So there's a whiteboard in the hallway for whatever, announcements

2268
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 2: or whatever, and it's usually like official, thanks, okay, except

2269
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 2: for except for this guy. I would put other things,

2270
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 2: like there was a time when everybody was moaning about

2271
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 2: like publicly media. You know, things are too hard at

2272
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 2: the Patriots, no one has fun, blah blah blah. One day,

2273
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 2: what's the message? Winning is fun? Winning is fun.

2274
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:04,920
Speaker 5: Put that on a T shirt.

2275
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 2: Winning is fun makes everything else worth it.

2276
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 1: And then I went away from my four game vacation

2277
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 1: and I came back. He was still there, and it

2278
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 1: stayed on that board all year long.

2279
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 2: We went and won a super Bowl. That was fun.

2280
01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 1: Parades are fun. Hell yeah, right out here, right out here.

2281
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 2: Awesome.

2282
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks bro, Appreciate you, bears, love you.

2283
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 2: Thanks. Guys. Talk about a mythical character, old Bear.

2284
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 5: What a guy, What a guy, What a guy. He's

2285
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,040
Speaker 5: one of those guys you only hear about. And he's

2286
01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:42,920
Speaker 5: referencing stories and he's right. We've heard about him a

2287
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:46,320
Speaker 5: lot in our our Patriots episodes this season. Now putting

2288
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 5: a face to the name and a name to the

2289
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 5: Lord's that was awesome. What a treat.

2290
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 1: It was awesome to get him to come in here.

2291
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 1: And I know he he was pretty excited about this.

2292
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 1: He always talks. He always like dms me on Instagram

2293
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 1: and stuff. Like the guy who used to pretty much

2294
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 1: watch all of Instagram. To have him like actually comment

2295
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 1: on like something good about our Instagram.

2296
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,520
Speaker 2: Pretty cool. I like that or TikTok or whatever it

2297
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 2: is social, but uh, it was pretty cool.

2298
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 1: And I actually got a chance to go talk to

2299
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: the BC football team, uh and it with Billy O'Brien

2300
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:25,920
Speaker 1: and Bears there and then talk to their whole football team,

2301
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:30,320
Speaker 1: and it was It was pretty cool. A bunch of

2302
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 1: hungry guys and you get to tell them some of

2303
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 1: the stories and some of the things that helped me

2304
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 1: along my football career. Anytime you get to do that

2305
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: to a younger group, future generation, it you know, it

2306
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 1: makes you feel young.

2307
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 2: I didn't get to watch practice, but there's some big

2308
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 2: guys in there.

2309
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 5: We didn't we didn't have an Applewood situation. Did we No,

2310
01:56:56,040 --> 01:57:00,919
Speaker 5: that was Billy not Applewood situation. I know Billy coach O'Bryant.

2311
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 5: They're gonna do good. You know, Billy O's a smart

2312
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 5: football coach. He's passionate and uh, from just seeing the

2313
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 5: looks in these guys eyes, you can always kind of

2314
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 5: tell who's who's who's looking at the guy and you know,

2315
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 5: I've been in a couple of plays all this guy,

2316
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 5: what do we even hear for?

2317
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 2: You know, they were all pretty dialed and glued, you know,

2318
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 2: so it was cool to see them.

2319
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:25,360
Speaker 1: It was awesome to campus is beautiful there, it's beautiful campus.

2320
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 4: Excited to see what Bill does.

2321
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:32,680
Speaker 2: Me too, Billy O, Bears, that was That was a

2322
01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 2: fun day.

2323
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:35,800
Speaker 5: I think they're turning us into be BC fans. We

2324
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 5: got to come back and when they're playing, I'm down.

2325
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 3: I know.

2326
01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 4: He's so sweet.

2327
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 5: Those are two guys. Those guys are guys who want

2328
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:47,200
Speaker 5: to root for. Granted we're Patriots rummers, but Bears and

2329
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 5: Billy ore just awesome dudes.

2330
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,240
Speaker 2: Awesome dude, awesome guys. I love Billy.

2331
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 1: Oh's a huge part of you know, me being in

2332
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 1: the league and having the success that I had he

2333
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean he was Him and Chaddie O'Shea were the

2334
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 1: first people that Bill laid some tape on the desk

2335
01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 1: and said, give me a write up on this kid.

2336
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 2: He reminded me today that it wasn't for being a quarterback.

2337
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 2: He reminded me, Man.

2338
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 5: It was so cool to get to see Billy O

2339
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 5: at uh at Brady Night too. He's just he's a fan.

2340
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 5: He's a great love.

2341
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 4: He like came up to me and was like, I

2342
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 4: love the show. It's anything okay, No, I was even

2343
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 4: listening to Baron Davis like he's like trying to say

2344
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 4: how much of a head he was so like he

2345
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 4: was like, what am I gonna be on the show?

2346
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 4: So well, have to find a time. We'll get him

2347
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 4: to the show.

2348
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 5: Man, I would do anything for BILLYO on the shows.

2349
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 5: He was so had such kind words to say to us,

2350
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:35,840
Speaker 5: and it was I was I was tickled to get

2351
01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:37,600
Speaker 5: to hear how how much of a fan he was.

2352
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:40,200
Speaker 5: And it was really embarrassing you look up to saying

2353
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,640
Speaker 5: he's a fan of us. Yeah, what you say about Bear?

2354
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 2: Sorry?

2355
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 4: And it was this was a great episode, you know, Yeah,

2356
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 4: I love that he gave us some stuff, but he

2357
01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 4: didn't give us everything. You know, he still was buttoned up.

2358
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 4: He told some stories here that you probably wouldn't have

2359
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 4: got when he was still with the Patriots, but he

2360
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 4: didn't tell everything.

2361
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 5: I liked that, and then I gotta I got a

2362
01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 5: quick jack correction from this episode. I believe I failed

2363
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 5: to mention a big part of this game. Hugh Douglas,

2364
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 5: the Jets best pass rusher, was out this game with

2365
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 5: a groin injury. So that was a big storyline. Headed

2366
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:11,520
Speaker 5: Oh I forgot to touch on that. Oh God, thank

2367
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 5: you Douglas, maybe Division two guy, great pass rusher. I

2368
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 5: failed to mention that in the lead up, and it's

2369
01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 5: been eating at me ever since.

2370
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 2: Well, we were were happy you got it cleared up.

2371
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you. Man. I just I it's some

2372
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 5: nostalgia for this era of football. Starter polo shirts, pleated khakis,

2373
01:59:30,520 --> 01:59:32,800
Speaker 5: guys coaches with big got a history in this game.

2374
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:35,880
Speaker 5: It was great. What a great choice by by Bears.

2375
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 5: That was That was awesome.

2376
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 2: It was awesome. But now let's hit the old hot line.

2377
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 1: And I remember and remember that number is four two

2378
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 1: four two nine two nine zero.

2379
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,480
Speaker 2: Hit the old hot line. Let's see what we got.

2380
01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 7: Yo was what's a Buffalo bluer right here? Big seven

2381
01:59:55,760 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 7: one six head? Honestly, even though you would player, I gotta.

2382
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:03,760
Speaker 2: Say, I love the podcast, I love the story.

2383
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 7: You gotta talk about a man. If I had one person,

2384
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:13,000
Speaker 7: I request you have on the who you have Freddy

2385
02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 7: Frad or try to get Freddy fred on their Big

2386
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:15,840
Speaker 7: twenty two.

2387
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 2: I grew up watching that.

2388
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 1: Man.

2389
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 7: I feel like you two will be able to talk

2390
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 7: about all of the nice Bill games, Bill Petriots games

2391
02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:27,080
Speaker 7: that I have back then, yeah, playing out Orchard Park especially.

2392
02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 2: He can talk about some one of.

2393
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 7: The Miami games, and then y'all I can probably talk

2394
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 7: about that too, because Miami in that division two. All right,

2395
02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:36,640
Speaker 7: just keep it up to appreciate it.

2396
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:39,480
Speaker 2: Is this a Bill's Mafia fan calling in?

2397
02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 5: I think so we're even converting Bill's Mafia to be

2398
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:42,800
Speaker 5: games with name SAIDs.

2399
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 2: I like that. I always love the Bill Mafias of

2400
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 2: the Bill's Mafia.

2401
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 1: And anytime I go anywhere, if I'm at like a

2402
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:54,600
Speaker 1: sporting event thing, I end up hanging a Buffalo fan

2403
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:57,880
Speaker 1: is always like hanging heckling me. But honestly, awesome dudes

2404
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 1: or ladies, you know, I had there's a guy with

2405
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:03,880
Speaker 1: his wife. We were at something for the win, and

2406
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 1: like we were sitting next to each other, and I

2407
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 1: feel like it's either a Boston there's always either non

2408
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 1: Boston fans that like hang out will have like Bill's

2409
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 1: Ma Mafia, and there's always like a Philly person.

2410
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

2411
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 1: Randomly I was skiing somewhere or snowboarding somewhere and ended

2412
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:20,320
Speaker 1: up hanging out.

2413
02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:20,960
Speaker 2: With this Philly guy.

2414
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 1: Hated me for the first two seconds, but then opens

2415
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:27,680
Speaker 1: up like the greatest dude ever, you know. But we

2416
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 1: gotta get Freddie Fred Is he talking about Fred Jackson?

2417
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 5: I think so. That took me a second.

2418
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:35,040
Speaker 1: Yes, Fred Jackson. I mean he was a really good

2419
02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:36,400
Speaker 1: football player running back.

2420
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:37,440
Speaker 2: He tore us up.

2421
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:42,720
Speaker 1: Remember Bill always giving him great highlights, Like Bill would

2422
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 1: always give like a twelve thirteen play cut up on

2423
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 1: the running backs for the Buffalo Bills. How they didn't

2424
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 1: always get the highest recognition, but they were always just

2425
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 1: the toughest, toughest guys.

2426
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 4: We gotta do a Bills game where they win. We've

2427
02:01:56,840 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 4: done a couple of them with it.

2428
02:01:57,880 --> 02:01:59,800
Speaker 1: We definitely gotta get a bit. We gotta give some

2429
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 1: some wins.

2430
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 5: Man Fred Jackson of co College and see the Rapids.

2431
02:02:05,320 --> 02:02:06,040
Speaker 5: Iowa love that.

2432
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, D three.

2433
02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 5: We also got to get Fred Taylor, speaking of Freddy,

2434
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 5: Fred's on.

2435
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:12,480
Speaker 2: That's where I thought Fred Taylor.

2436
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:14,960
Speaker 5: And then I put the context clues of Buffalo.

2437
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:16,640
Speaker 2: Now we'll we'll have to get him on.

2438
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 5: I'm down.

2439
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 1: We appreciate the call. Blu Ray Buffalo Buffalo Blue Ray.

2440
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 5: Not to be confused with DVD player Buffalo.

2441
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, Luk here from California.

2442
02:02:27,480 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 4: I just want to say, been a very good podcast.

2443
02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:32,200
Speaker 2: With these last few episodes, Bangers.

2444
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 5: One game I would like you guys to go over

2445
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:39,600
Speaker 5: is the Bills versus the Chiefs the Divisional round game

2446
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two.

2447
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,720
Speaker 2: That must be the greatest.

2448
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,240
Speaker 7: Playoff game I have ever seen.

2449
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 2: What do you guys think?

2450
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:52,320
Speaker 7: Very high game of point, very good back and forth

2451
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:55,640
Speaker 7: versus the great Josh Allen and the great Patrick Mahomes.

2452
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:57,440
Speaker 2: I think it will be a very good episode to

2453
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:01,360
Speaker 2: hear on either the Bills side or from the chief side.

2454
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 4: All in all, a very good game appreciated.

2455
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 1: Think again, Luke, you're one hundred percent correct. That's a

2456
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:11,400
Speaker 1: that's a phenomenal game. That game revolutionized you know a

2457
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 1: lot of what the league's gone into. That was the

2458
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 1: game We're thirteen or whatever how many seconds. You know

2459
02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 1: how explosive the league has gotten. And it's because of

2460
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:26,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Guys like Patrick Mahomes and guys like Josh

2461
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:29,600
Speaker 1: Allen who just they're never out of it.

2462
02:03:29,960 --> 02:03:32,760
Speaker 2: That that that is going to be on the show.

2463
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:35,520
Speaker 2: We just got to dial out who we're going to

2464
02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:36,280
Speaker 2: put up on there.

2465
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:40,480
Speaker 4: I think this is our one of our most requested

2466
02:03:40,520 --> 02:03:43,200
Speaker 4: games outside of the USC Texas game. I think this

2467
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:45,160
Speaker 4: is maybe the second most requested.

2468
02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:48,120
Speaker 5: Game that game is. It still just baffles me that

2469
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:51,840
Speaker 5: we had a game that good, that was incredible, incredible.

2470
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 4: I know that, Like I'm like a wet blanket guy.

2471
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 4: It's my whole thing. I hated this game. I hate

2472
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:58,360
Speaker 4: that it was just like basketball at the end, like

2473
02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:00,160
Speaker 4: it was just like, oh, who's going to have the balls?

2474
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 4: Is gonna score? All offense? Defense might not even play,

2475
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 4: So I know, I'm I know, I'm like the wet

2476
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:07,440
Speaker 4: blanket annoying guy here. And I'd love to do this

2477
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:09,480
Speaker 4: game because it's fun to talk about, but I personally

2478
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 4: don't love this game.

2479
02:04:10,640 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 5: That's even such a good game we man forget the

2480
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 5: guys from each side on if we could, if we

2481
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 5: could somehow that team, it's it's a must do. We

2482
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 5: gotta do it.

2483
02:04:18,120 --> 02:04:20,320
Speaker 1: I would love to hear their perspective of going into

2484
02:04:20,360 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 1: those last drives and you know, just what what were

2485
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:25,080
Speaker 1: the coaches saying?

2486
02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:27,960
Speaker 4: Also like the balls on my homes Like thirteen seconds,

2487
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,080
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I got this, we got this,

2488
02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:30,640
Speaker 4: we got this.

2489
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and didn't turn out good for them as we

2490
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 2: just had went for one. We gotta get it. We

2491
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 2: gotta get some more wins for the bill.

2492
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:40,760
Speaker 4: That's the bills, like right there, the next one.

2493
02:04:40,840 --> 02:04:42,839
Speaker 2: We got the nice tea up Kai.

2494
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:46,400
Speaker 5: Oh sorry I put him in that order, Jack Mercy,

2495
02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:48,520
Speaker 5: I'm just twisting the knife for Buffalo.

2496
02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, guys, but boys down in Texas actually driving

2497
02:04:53,640 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 3: to a rodeo, appreciate you all. The y'all show passing

2498
02:04:57,400 --> 02:05:00,040
Speaker 3: my time in the truck and getting horses ready on

2499
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:00,880
Speaker 3: a daily basis.

2500
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 2: It's awesome to listen to I.

2501
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 3: Hear everyone just guys throwing. Another option is like having

2502
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:10,600
Speaker 3: guys like at the NFR, which is the National Finals

2503
02:05:10,720 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 3: rodeo on the pod. Got like guys like Cody Ole

2504
02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 3: who he needed, he needed a good run to win

2505
02:05:18,600 --> 02:05:22,080
Speaker 3: the world title. Goes take four, break the world record

2506
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:26,080
Speaker 3: fastest tied out opening ever that happened. When's the world title?

2507
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:29,240
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many stories in the NFR and

2508
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:32,040
Speaker 3: Rodeo that you could uh that you could come up

2509
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:34,640
Speaker 3: with names fo so many big times where guys stepped

2510
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:36,960
Speaker 3: up and did their things. So I think that's another

2511
02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:41,000
Speaker 3: option to go uh and branch out and see more athletes. Man,

2512
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:42,720
Speaker 3: I appreciate the show, guys, Thank.

2513
02:05:42,640 --> 02:05:44,440
Speaker 2: You Texas call.

2514
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:45,560
Speaker 5: I love this.

2515
02:05:45,960 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 2: We got to get a rodeo.

2516
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:48,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2517
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 1: I remember once Scott who was it, Scott Eastwood, we

2518
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: were talking about something.

2519
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:56,000
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, bro, you got to come out to

2520
02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:59,120
Speaker 2: the PVR. I'm like, what fock's pr is? Clint Eastwood? Sun?

2521
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, some I guess he's a big rodeo guy. That's

2522
02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:04,600
Speaker 1: the that's the league name PBR.

2523
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 5: I believe Ribbon Yeah or.

2524
02:06:09,920 --> 02:06:10,320
Speaker 2: PBR.

2525
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:10,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2526
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:13,440
Speaker 4: He said other stuff I didn't understand, but I couldn't.

2527
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, we gotta definitely get it would be

2528
02:06:16,640 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 1: so cool to get a rodeo guy in here.

2529
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll watch it here and there on like

2530
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:22,520
Speaker 2: some of the sport networks.

2531
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I watched Yellows. I mean on Yellowstone. They

2532
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 5: show a little they got you know, they're doing a

2533
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:27,440
Speaker 5: little bit of that.

2534
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:31,760
Speaker 1: Those those guys are nuts, certifiable, real men, tough guys.

2535
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:33,640
Speaker 4: You know, we could go back to our origins where

2536
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:35,480
Speaker 4: you get like the competitors and we get a guy

2537
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:36,240
Speaker 4: in a bull.

2538
02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:38,360
Speaker 2: Would just sit a bull in here?

2539
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:43,560
Speaker 5: Dude, how how long? How long do you think either

2540
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:46,760
Speaker 5: you could realistically last on a bull. I'm not no

2541
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 5: mechanical joint.

2542
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, probably not long.

2543
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm not getting on it in the first place.

2544
02:06:54,040 --> 02:06:55,520
Speaker 5: I'm probably not either. I'm I'm a post.

2545
02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:55,680
Speaker 2: Now.

2546
02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:58,600
Speaker 4: You ever heard mutton busting yello?

2547
02:06:58,680 --> 02:07:02,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, mutton busting a little eyes on the little uh sheep.

2548
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 4: It's like bull riding for kids, except for they just

2549
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 4: grab on the sheep and they just see all them.

2550
02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:07,760
Speaker 5: They can hang on.

2551
02:07:08,200 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 4: I can try that, you'd be great.

2552
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:14,000
Speaker 5: I literally just saw who was it?

2553
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 1: Recently? Someone jumped on a bull and like did some

2554
02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:20,120
Speaker 1: creat like bare backed it? It was some dude looked

2555
02:07:20,160 --> 02:07:22,320
Speaker 1: like he was hammered. Did you say that video? Didn't

2556
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:23,520
Speaker 1: I send it to the group or something.

2557
02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't like, I don't know well you don't want, man,

2558
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:29,080
Speaker 5: come on. I don't know if I remember that one,

2559
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:30,640
Speaker 5: But did you see the one where the bull got

2560
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 5: out and was like out by the concession stand bucking

2561
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:36,120
Speaker 5: dudes like and then they just kept going on with

2562
02:07:36,200 --> 02:07:37,840
Speaker 5: the rodeo. He got loose from the ring and was

2563
02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:38,840
Speaker 5: out by the concessions.

2564
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:40,839
Speaker 1: Now they send a couple of dudes to the hospital

2565
02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:42,920
Speaker 1: when you when you buy a ticket to one of those,

2566
02:07:42,960 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: I bet you it's in the small print. You get

2567
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:47,600
Speaker 1: bucked by a bull at the concessions.

2568
02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:50,880
Speaker 5: I will not sue. I will get you're good, Yeah,

2569
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 5: freak out with each goring. I would I would say

2570
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 5: I would like to go to a rodeo and and

2571
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:03,000
Speaker 5: maybe steal a little rodeo valor get the belt buckle

2572
02:08:03,080 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 5: out o nice bill, twelve gallon hat.

2573
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:07,040
Speaker 2: I would love to go to.

2574
02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:09,040
Speaker 1: We gotta we should do like a We should go

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02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 1: to a rodeo. You got to experience it before I

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02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:15,760
Speaker 1: bring a guy on. Yes, yes, rodeo guy.

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02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 2: Probably.

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02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean this guy's dropping names. The guy broke a

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02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:22,600
Speaker 1: world record. I can't have this guy on without experience, right.

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02:08:22,920 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 2: We gotta see it.

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02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:25,879
Speaker 5: I've never been to one in person, have you guys.

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02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:27,120
Speaker 2: I've been to something.

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02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, there used to be a

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02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 1: Fourth of July rodeo in Woodside, California. I think I

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02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 1: went to that once. There's like a little horse community

2586
02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:38,120
Speaker 1: up up tight. Not like I'm not like, I don't know,

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02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:40,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, we gotta.

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02:08:42,520 --> 02:08:44,880
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe take friend of the show, Dola, even Dola,

2589
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:48,200
Speaker 5: maybe show us around.

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02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

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02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:51,600
Speaker 1: I think Dola has like three or four friends that

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02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:53,000
Speaker 1: just like are in rodeos.

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02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:56,320
Speaker 5: Maybe that's yeah, Scott Eastwood, we love you, but maybe

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02:08:56,400 --> 02:09:01,440
Speaker 5: the looking or our friend here, dude, we like this guy.

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02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,880
Speaker 1: He's just about to load some horses, listening to Games

2596
02:09:04,920 --> 02:09:08,840
Speaker 1: with Names, listening to Jack Glaze up some horses right now.

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02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:13,920
Speaker 4: We had a post guest segment at one point that

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02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:15,520
Speaker 4: was going to be the coolest horse names for the

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02:09:15,600 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 4: Kentucky Derby. I think I got cut.

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02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:18,240
Speaker 5: Oh that was a good one.

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02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:19,400
Speaker 4: I have to wait till next.

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02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:22,200
Speaker 5: Oh man, I do like that. I like I like it,

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02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:25,000
Speaker 5: like romanticizing this guy's life of like the sun sitting

2604
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:27,520
Speaker 5: out in Texas and he's loading up the trailer and

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02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:30,240
Speaker 5: Games with Names is cranked up on the Big fourd

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02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:31,200
Speaker 5: F three point fifty.

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02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:32,120
Speaker 2: This duly.

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02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 4: I like that.

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02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:33,920
Speaker 5: That's a cool life.

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02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:36,040
Speaker 8: And as he goes to press play on the old

2611
02:09:36,120 --> 02:09:40,360
Speaker 8: tape set, he reaches in his back pocket, pulls out

2612
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:43,520
Speaker 8: a little as we like to call it, God's dirt.

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02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 8: That's right to ride it in his lip gets home

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02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 8: with this day one listens to games with names in

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02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:51,360
Speaker 8: the background.

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02:09:51,520 --> 02:09:59,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, boys, this week they got bears are cow boys?

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02:09:59,240 --> 02:10:01,960
Speaker 5: Hear that new one? But that says Marilla.

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02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why. Anytime I drink everyone thinks

2619
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm from Texas?

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02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:10,400
Speaker 5: Did they really?

2621
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 4: I just got a little pop eye, a little bit of.

2622
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 5: See on the dusty trail, No Francisco area.

2623
02:10:22,240 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 2: Where are you from, Texas? I hear to the Colm Valley. Yeah,

2624
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:30,600
Speaker 2: little place where the horses go wild.

2625
02:10:31,760 --> 02:10:36,400
Speaker 1: It's a place called Mountain View, right next to Hewlett Packer.

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02:10:41,080 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 4: Last one's tools shown here.

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02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:47,800
Speaker 3: Hey, I'll be at the live broadcasts and of games

2628
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,280
Speaker 3: with names at the end of August and Boston.

2629
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:52,160
Speaker 1: I have a proposition for you.

2630
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:57,320
Speaker 4: You get the legendary Randy moss on.

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02:10:57,800 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 3: Before then I will come on, say agent, let you

2632
02:11:00,640 --> 02:11:01,560
Speaker 3: punched me in the stage.

2633
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 7: I would love to hear which to thank thanks.

2634
02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:07,520
Speaker 1: Rules I don't know if I can get that done,

2635
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:13,840
Speaker 1: this proposition, this is yeah, dude, I'll let you punch

2636
02:11:13,880 --> 02:11:14,720
Speaker 1: me in the face.

2637
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:17,920
Speaker 5: In front of the entire Wilbur crowd, a sold out

2638
02:11:17,920 --> 02:11:19,600
Speaker 5: Wilbur just committing assault.

2639
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:21,720
Speaker 4: He'll sign a release.

2640
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:25,600
Speaker 5: You think we give him headgear? No headgear.

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02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:27,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to break my hand. No.

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02:11:27,560 --> 02:11:28,680
Speaker 4: I think Jack has to punch him.

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02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 5: Twelve em one or two boxing classes with jewels down

2644
02:11:33,520 --> 02:11:35,560
Speaker 5: in Santa Monica. I could, I could throw a little

2645
02:11:35,560 --> 02:11:35,960
Speaker 5: weight into it.

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02:11:36,680 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 2: I still need a lot more.

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02:11:38,760 --> 02:11:40,680
Speaker 5: I don't know. I do like the tone of this

2648
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:43,080
Speaker 5: guy of Sean was very ominous. I'll be at the

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02:11:43,160 --> 02:11:46,240
Speaker 5: live show in Boston like it was ominous and a

2650
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:48,800
Speaker 5: little threatening. I kind of like it. A little joker is.

2651
02:11:50,280 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 3: What if?

2652
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:55,600
Speaker 5: But what if we don't get Randy anything?

2653
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 2: We didn't really tell them we don't get Randy. I

2654
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:01,160
Speaker 2: guess it just makes the show worse.

2655
02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:05,080
Speaker 4: Our producer Leah was getting buddy buddy with Randy's wife

2656
02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:05,839
Speaker 4: at the celebration.

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02:12:08,360 --> 02:12:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, for us to get Randy, we have

2658
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:13,560
Speaker 1: to because he only travels just to do probably the show.

2659
02:12:14,480 --> 02:12:16,800
Speaker 2: I think he's on, you know the end. Yeah.

2660
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:21,720
Speaker 1: Other than that, I think Randy literally just fishes all day.

2661
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 1: So we have to do games with names on like

2662
02:12:23,400 --> 02:12:26,280
Speaker 1: a fishing boat, and I'm talking like lake fishing, so

2663
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:27,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very tight.

2664
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:30,400
Speaker 4: I'm done for that. We'll get practice when we do

2665
02:12:30,520 --> 02:12:32,720
Speaker 4: Bill in Nantucket on a fishing boat?

2666
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:34,840
Speaker 1: Are we doing Bill in Nantucket in the fishing boat?

2667
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:36,040
Speaker 4: And we're gonna try.

2668
02:12:37,360 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 2: Anywhere.

2669
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:40,440
Speaker 1: Every time I ask Bill, you know, he just keeps

2670
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:43,880
Speaker 1: on giving me some I'm like, he keeps on asking

2671
02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 1: how much money? Yeah, I go, Bill, this isn't how

2672
02:12:47,120 --> 02:12:52,840
Speaker 1: podcasting works. It's literally like friendy friend.

2673
02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 5: All right, Johnny Manziel doing the freaking He's.

2674
02:12:55,040 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 1: Giving me money signs like john Johnny Manziel, Like, Bill,

2675
02:13:00,040 --> 02:13:02,080
Speaker 1: you think he'd just beat all the all the years

2676
02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:04,920
Speaker 1: that I took those shitty fucking contracts where you bullied

2677
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:07,280
Speaker 1: me into taking. How about you take that money and

2678
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:08,920
Speaker 1: just keep it in your head and say, oh, this

2679
02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:11,040
Speaker 1: is what I'm going on to games and names for.

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02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:12,760
Speaker 5: We offer prove it deals over here.

2681
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:14,920
Speaker 2: How about that? Yeah, we offer proof this is a

2682
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:15,560
Speaker 2: proven deal.

2683
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 4: Minimum.

2684
02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:20,440
Speaker 2: You're getting a league minimum thirteen.

2685
02:13:21,720 --> 02:13:21,760
Speaker 3: No.

2686
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:24,280
Speaker 1: But I tell Bill all the time, like he's like,

2687
02:13:24,440 --> 02:13:26,200
Speaker 1: are we good now? I'm like when have we ever

2688
02:13:26,280 --> 02:13:29,760
Speaker 1: been bad? And as I'm walking away, I go, Bill,

2689
02:13:30,680 --> 02:13:32,200
Speaker 1: you can't pick your family.

2690
02:13:33,160 --> 02:13:36,160
Speaker 2: You can't pick your family. He's just like, oh my god.

2691
02:13:38,720 --> 02:13:40,280
Speaker 5: They speaking of Randy. Did you guys get to share

2692
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:42,200
Speaker 5: an embrace at the at the Brady Night.

2693
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were. We went pre pre stage.

2694
02:13:45,760 --> 02:13:46,200
Speaker 5: That's right.

2695
02:13:47,200 --> 02:13:50,480
Speaker 1: We were just talking about what we were he was.

2696
02:13:50,720 --> 02:13:52,440
Speaker 1: We were all just talking about like what we would

2697
02:13:52,480 --> 02:13:55,480
Speaker 1: probably get into. I love that we took a picture.

2698
02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:57,400
Speaker 5: I almost cried when they gave Randy.

2699
02:13:58,880 --> 02:14:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I mean it's deserved.

2700
02:14:02,240 --> 02:14:05,720
Speaker 1: It's all time great, not just for the Patriots, for

2701
02:14:05,760 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 1: the world.

2702
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:09,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, wrap this up, we'll clip this put

2703
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:12,040
Speaker 4: on social media. Everyone tag Randy Moss. We'll figure it out.

2704
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's gonna tag Randy straight cash straight, tag homieg homie. Well,

2705
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:22,960
Speaker 1: what a game, what a what an episode? Thanks again

2706
02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:26,440
Speaker 1: to Bears. That's been another episode of Games with Names.

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02:14:26,520 --> 02:14:30,720
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02:14:31,320 --> 02:14:33,560
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02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:39,680
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Speaker 1: at four two four two nine one two two nine zero.

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