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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Mike checked, Mike check this thing on.

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Speaker 1: Riot.

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Speaker 3: Man, I wish you were sitting next to me, because

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Speaker 3: there's a whole new studio situation that I was not

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Speaker 3: prepared for. I walked in ready to bang a left,

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Speaker 3: and they said no, Kelvin, go to the right, And

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden we got these new studios, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: and I even think maybe they give it some morehead

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Speaker 3: room for your seven foot self.

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Speaker 2: What's up, bro?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Brother? Are you?

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Speaker 4: Are you giving me fomo right now? Is that what

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Speaker 4: you're doing? The fear of missing out? Is that what

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Speaker 4: you're trying to? Like, Helvin, I ain't talk to you

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Speaker 4: at how long?

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Speaker 3: It has been a been a happy Sunday to everybody. Man,

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Speaker 3: we got a lot going on. We got some great

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Speaker 3: basketball happening right now. You just heard that the Kings

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Speaker 3: at least some moment going up over they got eight?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 3: And She's like, no, dup two dang too? All right,

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Speaker 3: Well it was a moment ago and so we got

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Speaker 3: the great game going on there. We got the NFL

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Speaker 3: Draft to get to. But again, brother, yes, there's been

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Speaker 3: some time since we actually have hung out, seen each

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Speaker 3: other and so again I was just here not too

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Speaker 3: long ago, Sam, What was I here like three weeks

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Speaker 3: ago maybe give or take. And the entire situation has changed.

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Speaker 3: So next time you hear man really nice studios the mix,

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm like, like, I'm supposed to jay

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Speaker 3: Z this thing right now or whoever they care? Who

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Speaker 3: the kid's listen to right now? Little Baby Post Maloney,

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Speaker 3: Little Anything, Young Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Little Kelvin, Little Ryan Man.

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Speaker 3: Bad Bunny first of all Bad Bundy, the first of

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Speaker 3: all Bad Bunny. He is masked for him to not

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Speaker 3: do pretty much anything in English. You gotta give him

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Speaker 3: a lot of credit because he has taken over all

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Speaker 3: stations I don't care wan on something to something to

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Speaker 3: hip hop and they're playing it.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're like ninety three something's up to you know,

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Speaker 2: reck I talk.

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Speaker 3: He's playing Bad Bunny is taking over everything, the radio,

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Speaker 3: TV commercials now, he's taking over Crypto dot com arena.

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Speaker 3: If you go to a Laker game, he's sitting there Ryan,

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Speaker 3: I know you've seen it, and he has on like

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Speaker 3: a ski mask in the middle of the ninety degree weather.

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Speaker 1: It's marketing, man.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why I went on a bad Bundy tangent.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, what's something Hou's life with you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good man, second year in Houston, having a blast,

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Speaker 4: missing my guys in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But I am living Kelvin.

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Speaker 4: Hear me when I say this, I'm living through the

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Speaker 4: teams that have missed the playoffs that are now in.

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Speaker 4: I'm watching the Sacramento Kings and I'm like, that's my Rockets.

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Speaker 4: I'm watching the New York Knicks, even though they lost today,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, that's my Rockets.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: The Rockets gonna be read back in the mix of

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Speaker 4: things soon. But I'm enjoying myself and to join these playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: For those of you who don't know Ryan, he is

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Speaker 3: doing color and analysis for the Houston Rockets.

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Speaker 2: Who got a couple of pieces there.

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Speaker 3: You guys have a couple of pieces that you're like,

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Speaker 3: maybe this is something I'm feeling good moving forward with,

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Speaker 3: but you also have some trade the assets and you

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Speaker 3: know the future. Look, it can only look right because

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Speaker 3: it can't look any worse, Okay, so we can only

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Speaker 3: be heading in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm assuming that's how the feel of the town is.

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Speaker 1: Right. Listen, the year in.

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Speaker 4: Houston was a development year, and I know that is

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Speaker 4: a tough hill to swallow because Houston is the clutch city,

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Speaker 4: city of champions.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes you gotta.

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Speaker 4: Be patient with the process, and I think that the

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Speaker 4: city has done a great job being patient. But it's

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Speaker 4: just a part of it. So it's like, get your

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Speaker 4: little joke sitting now, get that in. But you know,

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Speaker 4: when it's go time, just be prepared, Kelvin, be prepared, man.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the good, yeah, the good and the

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Speaker 3: good thing is all of the ladies down there who

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Speaker 3: work at particular venues where they may dance. If you

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Speaker 3: catch my drift, James Harden may be coming back. That's

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Speaker 3: what the streets are saying. And you know he has

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Speaker 3: his jersey set up there in the rafters. And I

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Speaker 3: do not mean where the Rockets play. I mean at

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Speaker 3: the venues again where there's a certain type of dance happening.

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Speaker 3: King is coming home, James, James Harden, the beard will

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Speaker 3: be back. And that's what it's looking like. So all

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Speaker 3: those young butch is not good though for the young

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Speaker 3: players though, like it's gonna be training and working hard,

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Speaker 3: becoming professionals. Like, yeah, after the game, that James is like, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 3: bump about that. You already head on out tonight.

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Speaker 1: Are you dropping bombs? Man? You're throwing out the takes already. Now,

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Speaker 1: come on, man, we've been on the show. We've been

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Speaker 1: on about three you gonna be dumping the bomb man, You.

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Speaker 2: Don't my ears to the streets.

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Speaker 3: And that's what the streets are saying, is that the beard,

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Speaker 3: depending on how this all plays out for the seventy

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Speaker 3: in Houston. It's all I'm saying. I'm just saying that anyway.

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Speaker 3: But let's stay what you just talked about there watching.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much NBA to start. We can

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Speaker 3: start with what we what we saw earlier and the

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Speaker 3: with the New York Knicks in the Miami Heat game

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Speaker 3: reminiscent of nineteen ninety eight, no Van Gundy holding on

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Speaker 3: the Alonzo Morning's legs, though we didn't have to have that,

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Speaker 3: at least not yet in the series. So you have

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Speaker 3: that game we can start with, or we can start

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Speaker 3: with the one we're watching right now, which is the Kings,

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Speaker 3: who are tied up right now fifty nine to fifty

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Speaker 3: nine with the Golden State Warriors Game seven. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is exactly what you kind of hope for. A

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Speaker 3: fascinating series, kind of a maybe a changing of the guard,

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Speaker 3: almost figuratively and literally in that Steph Curry, Now you

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Speaker 3: got dearon Fox? Is this the last run for the King?

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Speaker 3: For the Warriors? Are the Kings the upstarts. So there's

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Speaker 3: a lot to get into. I'll start with Jimmy Buckets

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Speaker 3: and Michael Jordan's son that we didn't know. That's at

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Speaker 3: least again with the streets you're saying, Listen, you played

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Speaker 3: in the league so many years. I'm sure you played

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Speaker 3: against Jimmy. We all know he is such a good

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Speaker 3: quality two way player. But I'm gonna ask you this,

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Speaker 3: can you think of a player who was above pedestrian good,

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Speaker 3: not great, all star at times, all star like probably

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Speaker 3: majority of the time, not a superstar, not really box office,

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Speaker 3: but who turned it on in crunch time, clutch time,

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Speaker 3: big moments like we've seen with Jimmy Butler. It isn't

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Speaker 3: just this season we saw him will his team in

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Speaker 3: the bubbles to the finals. We saw them will to

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Speaker 3: a game, what was it, six games with the Lakers,

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Speaker 3: and he was phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: You could argue the best player in the series.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen anyone like this where throughout the season,

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Speaker 3: you know, case solid, good, you know, but turns it on.

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Speaker 3: We've seen the opposite. We've seen players who ball out

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Speaker 3: James Harden style through the regular season and bailout in

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Speaker 3: the postseason. Right, We've seen that happen.

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Speaker 1: It's like get third shot to h Town. He come

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Speaker 1: on right, helping, come on man.

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Speaker 3: But but you feel me so answer me that. Have

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Speaker 3: you who else is in that category?

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Speaker 4: I can argue and say that he's unique. I've never

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Speaker 4: seen it before. There's a guy that comes to mind,

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Speaker 4: but I felt like we knew how good he was,

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Speaker 4: but it wasn't to.

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Speaker 1: The level of Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 4: Jamal Crawford was a guy played with that when Jamal

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Speaker 4: wanted to turn it on, he was as good as

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Speaker 4: anybody on the planet. We could have given him a

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Speaker 4: last shot over with the Clippers in LA. But like

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Speaker 4: Jimmy Butler, I call it a part time superstar. He

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Speaker 4: puts the cape on in Kelvin.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 4: I've been heavily criticized because my superstar list is really

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Speaker 4: like Gianni's just got on it. When he got a championship,

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Speaker 4: it's like Lebron, Steph, Katie Kyrie, like like I got

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Speaker 4: a really slim list. But I say that to say

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Speaker 4: it's high praise because Jimmy Butler, when he turns it on,

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Speaker 4: he is pound for pound Lebron for that night.

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Speaker 1: He is Kevin Durant, he is, he is any superstar.

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Speaker 1: He's might.

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Speaker 4: Also, I'm gonna say Jimmy Butler is Michael Jordan on

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Speaker 4: any given night.

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Speaker 3: Now, it's crazy as that sounds, that's not far fetched.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I get what you're saying. I mean he listen,

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Speaker 3: he's putting up forty something in the finals, making big shots,

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Speaker 3: willing his team. He ain't similar to Jordan, unlike maybe Steph,

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Speaker 3: unlike Curry some of the other guys you named. Katie

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Speaker 3: to an extent. He plays amazing defense as well, And

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Speaker 3: I think that's why his body gets beat up. You

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Speaker 3: see him turn that ankle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did see that.

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Speaker 4: He's he's just unique bro, and his personality is And

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Speaker 4: then add in like, this is a guy who went

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Speaker 4: through turmoil. This is a guy who forced his way

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Speaker 4: out of Minnesota. This isn't like the story. But path

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Speaker 4: this is a guy I remember Jimmy Butler playing against him.

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Speaker 4: He came off the bench for TIBs over with the Bulls,

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Speaker 4: and TIBs will give him some post ups off in

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Speaker 4: the second unit. But like, you're right, those guys aren't

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Speaker 4: slated to necessarily be superstars. I'll give you another guy

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Speaker 4: who hasn't quite a Chris Middleton is a guy who

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Speaker 4: went off in the NBA Finals. But you don't see

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Speaker 4: Chris Middleton like leading, Like Jimmy's the guy. So he's unique, dude,

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Speaker 4: he's unique. There aren't too many people on the planet.

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Speaker 4: And it's like Kelvin Krag if I'm wrong. It's almost

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Speaker 4: like if you agree with this or not, it's almost

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Speaker 4: like he Jimmy takes has like his crazy and then

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Speaker 4: he channels it into greatness and like he he alerts on.

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Speaker 1: The line up it and you're like, it's just Jimmy, dude.

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Speaker 2: I mean Drew Holliday, Hey, I've been a nice guy.

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Speaker 3: People love the story of you know, Drew Holliday, all

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Speaker 3: his brothers in the league. He has a remarkable health

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Speaker 3: recovery story with his wife, Like why are.

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Speaker 2: They going at Drew Holliday like that. But you know

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Speaker 2: that was to your point.

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Speaker 3: That was that turning on that Jimmy crazy, uh you know,

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Speaker 3: and what ends again similar to Jordan, by the way,

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Speaker 3: this is where like folks, if they want to take

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Speaker 3: a snippet of what we've been saying, they'll.

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Speaker 1: Be like Roan Hollin.

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Speaker 3: Says, Jimmy Butler's better than Michael Jordan, Like this is

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Speaker 3: totally how that happens. Sam, I don't not like y'all'll

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Speaker 3: be cutting those up, putting them up there online and

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Speaker 3: all that. So but but similarly to Jordan and that,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna psych myself out, find a way to make

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Speaker 3: up a story that you know, hey, what you say

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Speaker 3: about my mama kind of thing to psych me up.

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Speaker 2: And and when.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy goes there, who's usually level headed, like you said,

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Speaker 3: highs and the lows, he just wants to compete, play hard.

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Speaker 3: But for the most part, you know, he's not too

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Speaker 3: He wasn't supposed to beat Milwaukee's.

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Speaker 8: It's me three time pro bowler LeVar Arrington and I

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Speaker 8: Hutschman, Zada and Super Bowl champion Yup, that's right, Plexico Buruts.

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Speaker 3: Happy Sunday to you, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Kelvin Washington, my guy Ryan Hollins has been so long.

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Speaker 3: Glad to be able to spend a few hours on

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Speaker 3: the airway with you, my brother down there in Houston

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Speaker 3: doing big things.

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Speaker 2: So proud of you, man.

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Speaker 3: But we're talking the sport you played, the sport, you love,

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Speaker 2: That would be the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: And we saw them play great defensively against the Memphis

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Speaker 3: Villain Brooks, that's right, not Dylan, but villain with the

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Speaker 3: ONMI Larry Birder. White man would say that we already

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Speaker 3: what I mean. He saw, who am I going to

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Speaker 3: you see. He's about that life whether it goes good,

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Speaker 4: And Villain Brooks, I'm not used to that yet.

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Speaker 3: I need a trademarkt Villain Brooks went ahead and thought,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play this character. WWE. You saw what he

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Speaker 2: And it's like he forgot that.

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Speaker 3: And so I don't know if he thought like you'd

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Speaker 3: Stand on it? And I'm not mad if you stay Hey,

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Speaker 3: I said what I said. You know he's a great

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Speaker 2: I'm disappointed, Ryan, get your boy.

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Speaker 4: so Jamal Murray was there, Dylan Brooks was there. This

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Speaker 4: So I want to take my moment while everyone's calling

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Speaker 4: But I think the mistake, actually, I'm gonna give him

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Speaker 4: We can agree. He has to come and talk. He's

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Speaker 4: par with what he was doing. And this is my assumption.

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00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 4: It looked like it hurt his team. It didn't look

437
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,479
Speaker 4: like a full team as a unit. We're saying that.

438
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 4: The reason I say that is because when I played

439
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 4: in Boston, you mentioned trash talkers. I played with two

440
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 4: of the best. Okay, you mentioned Boston, Paul Pearson, Kevin Garnett, Right,

441
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,640
Speaker 4: Kevin Garnet said things when we played the Miami Heat

442
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 4: to Lebron James in which I will not repeat.

443
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,879
Speaker 1: They cannot come out of my mouth.

444
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,439
Speaker 4: This trash talk open was that bad. But you know

445
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 4: the difference with our team makeup is we rallied around

446
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 4: Kevin Garnett. We rallied around Paul Pierce for the things

447
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 4: that he said and they said, and it was our

448
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,239
Speaker 4: mo We were I don't want to say we were

449
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 4: the bad boys or villains, but we were hard nos,

450
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 4: we were tougher, we executed. It was a veteran group.

451
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 4: That was the mindset when we were there. Right, it

452
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 4: did not look Kelvin and correct me if I'm wrong

453
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 4: that the rest of his teammates Dylan Brooks were on

454
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 4: par with what was being said. And that's where I

455
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 4: look at it and say, I don't know if that

456
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 4: was the best move.

457
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there.

458
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 3: I think they're about that life as a whole. Like

459
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 3: you see John Moran early in the season sitting down

460
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 3: during an interview and he's like, I ain't worried about

461
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 3: the West. No nobody in the West worries me. You

462
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 3: heard what's your boy Desmond Bains talking about how you

463
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 3: know they gotta u they gotta show me again and

464
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Speaker 3: ruiy Hachamour has to show me again. Like basically, we

465
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 3: don't believe that he's gonna have that. You know, he

466
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: had a good game and can he got to show

467
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Speaker 3: me again? This is who they've been. They got the dances,

468
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 3: they got the videos. And by the way, I love it.

469
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 3: I'm one of the few people with man themiphicause he's

470
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Speaker 3: shut up.

471
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Speaker 2: Man, they haven't done anything.

472
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, we can't sit here and say the

473
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 3: entertaining the NBA. Everybody fragnizes. They become best friends. Everybody's

474
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 3: aau buddies, and there's no beefs, there's no drama, there's

475
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 3: no Let's go back to women's college basketball. Why do

476
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 3: we love it? Because they started talking smack, girls were

477
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 3: supporting it. This girl, she's doing it. You can't see me.

478
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 3: She's talking smack. And I recently interviewed coach coach for

479
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: UCLA and I asked you that she's like this stuff

480
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 3: has been great for women's basketball. Guys are into it.

481
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 3: You just see the transfer portal, a bunch of young

482
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 3: ladies transfer. Everybody's likes, ohoot, they're talking smack. What's her

483
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: Name's going to LSU? Now everybody's invested. Thank you, everybody's

484
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 3: invested now. Because you need a little bit of this.

485
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 3: You need a little entertainment, you need a little trash talking.

486
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: It's the first time you've been in the barbershop. You

487
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: say that you see what she said. Let me tell you,

488
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: oh man, but if you be the lsu Jersey, it's

489
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 3: because you need a little bit of this. So I

490
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 3: love that the Grizzlies do this. What I don't like

491
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 3: is that you don't stand on it, stand ten toes down.

492
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: I said, it congrated them and you know we looked.

493
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: You saw if you didn't, there's a video after they lost.

494
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: Walking out of Crypto still hard to say. I want

495
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: to say, Staple Centers so bad. Walking out of the

496
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: all blood you know, all the crips too, By the way,

497
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 3: he knows bloods and crips in the LA.

498
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: The crips can't say. They call it brypto. It's a

499
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: big thing.

500
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Speaker 1: Man.

501
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Speaker 2: Sorry, I know, I'm sorry, Bro. Then sometimes I forget

502
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Speaker 2: the profession lists.

503
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm just saying for those who don't know, crips don't

504
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 3: like to say certain words, and our bloods, I'm just

505
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 3: saying they don't like to say anyway. So walking out

506
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: of Crypto, Jahn Morant is walking out and Aryon fans

507
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: are saying, hey, hey, good bye.

508
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: He's singing with him, he's having fun.

509
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 3: I'd like the Jaws, Like yo, they ask him about

510
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: the whole do you wish you take back the statement

511
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 3: of nobody in the West can see if I'm not

512
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: worried about anybody in the West.

513
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: And he's like, no, I said it. I got to

514
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: stand on it.

515
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: And he's like, you know, I said what I said,

516
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 3: and I know that folks are going to have an

517
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 3: opinion about it.

518
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 2: That's what I need more from Dylan Brooks. So I

519
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: think he needs to learn.

520
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 3: Look, man, if you're gonna play the WWE, Rick Flair,

521
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 3: Stone Coach, Steve Auston character, you gotta stay in character, bro,

522
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 3: you know, get your method acted on, get your Tom Cruise,

523
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 3: Tom Hanks, pick of time, you know, and stand on

524
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: it and be that guy you know, or be able

525
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: to kind of say, hey, I was having fun tongue

526
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: in cheek moment, you know what I mean.

527
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Speaker 2: Man, hats off, But you can't just like I would

528
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: be tough.

529
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna put these videos out and then all right,

530
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 3: y'all lost, you played terrible, come talking.

531
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 2: From this mic.

532
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: I'm out and find an exciting out of crypto no

533
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 3: one even know existed.

534
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 4: Sorry, do you think, considering the circumstances, the animosity, the

535
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: calling out of Dylan Brooks is going too far. I

536
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: see a lot of people acting like he just can't

537
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 4: play basket. Now, he didn't have a good series, but

538
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 4: make it it seem like Dylan Brooks is not a

539
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: good basketball player. Do you think, Calvin, that it's going

540
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 4: too far? Me personally, I do. I think things are

541
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 4: going out of context.

542
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Speaker 1: You may not agree with them, you may not like them,

543
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: but the dude is a baller.

544
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 3: Ben No, listen, well, some people from he needs to

545
00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: go ahead, get his Manjings. Your jury's Kelvin. Download his

546
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: dual Lingo app. Come on, man, download the dual Lego app.

547
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that he might need to learn Mandarin.

548
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what the streets are saying right now.

549
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: But uh I, he's gonna be the NBA for another

550
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: five years. He's a quality defender.

551
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: Don't you put a shelf off? Just f you?

552
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: Dude?

553
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: God, but I can't with you. I can't. I can't.

554
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: I cannot, man.

555
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 3: Listen, I mean, did you want me to say like

556
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: it's not like like I'm watching Anthony Edwards where I

557
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 3: know he's about to be a you know, ten to

558
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 3: fifteen year guy.

559
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: I gave him five, bro, he I gave him five.

560
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. He has already been in the league,

561
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: what three four season, and I gave him five.

562
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 4: As long as he don't have no major injuries. Bro,

563
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 4: the guy's not going anywhere. He not going anywhere, He

564
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 4: not going nowhere counting.

565
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying, man, I thought I was doing

566
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 3: pretty good giving him spot on the three.

567
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Speaker 2: Uh five?

568
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 3: All right, it's a whole lot more to get you.

569
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: Actually a quick update, but I'm not gonna steal it

570
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: from Mancie. She's gonna give us an update right now.

571
00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 3: What's trending?

572
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: King's Warriors game still competitive?

573
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 6: It is still competitive. But I gotta say the Grizzlies

574
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 6: are the fakest tough team I've ever seen ever. And

575
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 6: I agree with what you said about Dylan Villain Brooks

576
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 6: being a character. That's the problem. He's like, I don't

577
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 6: believe you. I don't believe that you are this tough guy,

578
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 6: and I can't. I can't stand him. He's a fine

579
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 6: basketball player, but I cannot stand him. I also hate

580
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 6: that Jah Morant thought it was funny as he walked

581
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 6: out of formerly a Staples Center. Ye crypto. I thought

582
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 6: if it would have been a regular season game and

583
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 6: you got blown out by forty and you went out

584
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 6: with the fans and started singing that's funny. But this

585
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 6: was playoffs. You got blown out and eliminated and you

586
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 6: walked out like that. Oh, I don't like that. I

587
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 6: don't like that as a leader up.

588
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: And what then does he do? Like a real question,

589
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: real question?

590
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 6: Exit a different way? Or if you do come out

591
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 6: that way and they're doing that, you don't join in.

592
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 6: You just walk out. You just walk to your car,

593
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 6: don't participate.

594
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: See what I I? I hear you, and I think

595
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: I think, I think most people are with you. But

596
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: what I've learned and Ryan, you know this is just

597
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: from being around all you ex athletes, and we the

598
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: fan oftentimes put on them how they should react good

599
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: or bad, like you should, and a loss will be

600
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: like that. I already went out, he should never go there?

601
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: Like yo, Like what am I supposed to stay in

602
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 3: the darkening?

603
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: And like am I Like? What do I do? Like

604
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: how do I handle this?

605
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: And so for me, I get I hear you, I

606
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: do I think most people will be with you. What

607
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: it doesn't bother me is because the makeup of Jaw

608
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 3: is I'm gonna be Job.

609
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: I played through a hand injury. Where's your boy?

610
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: Kawhi?

611
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: You know?

612
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: Stop me?

613
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: Cut bro, I'm sorry. I'm just simply.

614
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: Saying to my point, I say, he stood on, he said, Hey,

615
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: I said what I said.

616
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: Nobody know who has worried me. You know, I don't

617
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: take it back.

618
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: That's how I felt, and so to me, the difference

619
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Speaker 3: is Job walking out singing no non with them, is

620
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: Joab being like that's funny, that's cool, that's clever. I

621
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: like what y'all do. I've viewed it as him being like, y'all,

622
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: all right, we got you. I got you, y'all, y'all

623
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: earned this moment. That's how I read it.

624
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 6: And sure, I guess when you're I'm not here saying

625
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 6: this is how athletes should act, I guess this is

626
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 6: how I would do it. I didn't play professional movie.

627
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: Oh no.

628
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 6: I would have walked right back into the arena and

629
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 6: be like, I'm a wait until this is done. Yeah,

630
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna walk out with these people.

631
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: Y'all better have an office tournament of anything in here. Okay, games,

632
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: no nothing, I'm telling you right now, I'm on her team.

633
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: Oh you guys context in a bit after that.

634
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 6: All right, let's talk about Game seven because it is winner,

635
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 6: go home, and definitely the Warriors know that they're currently

636
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 6: beating the Kings eighty two to seventy six, one minute

637
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 6: to go in the third quarter. Steph Curry doing what

638
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 6: he can. He's got thirty two points. He's thirteen of

639
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 6: twenty seven from the field, which is not great, five

640
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 6: to thirteen from the three point line. But Clay Thompson

641
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 6: is three of thirteen from the field, one of six

642
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 6: from the three point line. So Curry is doing what

643
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 6: he can to help the Warriors take this Game seven.

644
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 6: Mike Brown was just talking to the Kings and he

645
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 6: was like, they want it more. And it's true because

646
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 6: the Warriors are out rebounding them in every way they

647
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 6: can forty four rebounds for the Warriors compared to thirty

648
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 6: six for the Kings. They just want the ball more.

649
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 6: This is Game seven, so the Kings need to step

650
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 6: it up if they're gonna win this one in Sacramento.

651
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 6: The Heat. They won Game one against the Knicks in

652
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 6: New York earlier today, one o waight to one on

653
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Speaker 6: one was a final score. The big story Jimmy Butler

654
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 6: totally rolled his right ankle late in the fourth quarter,

655
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 6: but he stayed in there because he's a badass. Made

656
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 6: his two free throws and ended with twenty five points

657
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 6: and eleven rebounds. This is what head coach Eric Spolsters

658
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 6: said about his injury after the game.

659
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Speaker 2: You know, you just don't know, you know, with ankle sprains.

660
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: I don't even know if we'll know more by tomorrow.

661
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: You know, we'll just have to see.

662
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 7: It'll be a waiting game, you know.

663
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 6: But he did not want to come out of the game,

664
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Speaker 6: you know, so we left him in there for Yeah,

665
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 6: that's right, because he's a badass in Major League Baseball.

666
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 6: The White Sox have lost ten in a row, and

667
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 6: they might win this one up on the Rays twelve

668
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 6: to nine, bottom of the ninth inning. Oh, it might

669
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 6: have been the end. I think they just walked it off. Actually,

670
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 6: I think they just walked it off against the Rays.

671
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 6: So the White Sox have snapped their ten game losing streak.

672
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 6: Good for them. Nationals beating the Pirates seven to one,

673
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 6: top of the fifth, Rockies all over the Diamondbacks twelve

674
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 6: to three, top of the ninth. They are playing in Colorado.

675
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 6: Giants beating the Padres in Mexico City four to two,

676
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 6: bottom of the fifth, Angels beating the No. A's beating

677
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 6: the Reds. I'm sorry, three to one is the score

678
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 6: and it is the Dodgers of tied the game against

679
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 6: the Cardinals three apiece, bottom of the fifth. Back to

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Speaker 6: you guys, all right.

681
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: Thank you for that.

682
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: MONTI again, Ryan Hollins, Calvin Washington with you coming up

683
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: a little bit later on, we'll have Adam Kaplan come in.

684
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: We'll talk a little NFL drap some good stories out there.

685
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: You see your boy, Aaron Rodgers showing up anywhere in

686
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: New York. I mean he is popping up anywhere. I

687
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: saw him at Rutger Park, Lion. But my boyd is

688
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: he's showing up. He's showing up. I saw him in

689
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: Harlem hanging with Cameron and Dipset. He is pulling up

690
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: anywhere in New York.

691
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Speaker 1: Brother.

692
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,239
Speaker 2: So we'll get to that a little bit later on.

693
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: Looking forward to you said, you want to give us

694
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: some context to something real quick too. By the way,

695
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Speaker 3: make sure you understand where we are being presented to

696
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: you from we are coming to your line from the

697
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Speaker 3: tire rack dot Com Studios. Make sure you stick with

698
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: us again, Ryan House, Kevin Washington will be here for

699
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: another two two and a half hours or so. You

700
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: said you want to put context to something. What was it,

701
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Kawhi Leonard? What was the context you want to write down?

702
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: Listen, Kawhi Leonard and a hand injury are two different things,

703
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: and Kawhi has played through much more to hands were

704
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: not going slamer Kawhi here Okay? Context to what happens

705
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 4: on why Dylan Brooks and why John Morant and those

706
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: guys decided to walk over For one, that's probably something

707
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: they had been doing every single game in La Okay.

708
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 4: After the game, and what happens after the game, there

709
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: are two buses and the hotel that they were staying

710
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: at was literally walking distance.

711
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have the option.

712
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: And because it's Ja Morant, because it's Dylan Brooks, they

713
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: probably for sure missed the first bus to either wait

714
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Speaker 4: another hour or so. When I say they missed the bus,

715
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: it's a it's a normal thing. You have to shower

716
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: really quick to get on that first bus. Just so

717
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: you know, Kelvin, you're a second bus guy.

718
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm definitely a second best guy.

719
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: Second.

720
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: I feel slighted and disrespect that did you would say that?

721
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: But also you know me, so I'm a second bus guy.

722
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: You're a second bus guy. And or walk over I'm.

723
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: A walk over guy. Actually, you know me. I'm a

724
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: people person. Manzi would be fighting me if we were teammates.

725
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 2: What are you doing walking over there?

726
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna walk over, I want to smoke,

727
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a little fun with the crowd.

728
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: I'm in la. Yeah, I'm a walk over guy.

729
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: But here's the thing though, Kelvin, and I've been in

730
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: this situation before, and I hear Manzi because the big

731
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: thing to do is just shut up, just walk and

732
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: just do what you do.

733
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: But you're walking and people.

734
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: Are cheering at you and pointing, and I hate to

735
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: say it, it's almost reminiscent of and keep this in

736
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: context of when an animal in the zoo. You start

737
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: to feel like that, because sometimes a fan feel like

738
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: you're at the show when we go and we look

739
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: at the birds and the monkeys and the and the uh,

740
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 4: you know, the the you know, whatever it may be.

741
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 4: You have a mindset of the animals in the zoo,

742
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: And for me, you start to feel like that, and

743
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: you're saying, Okay, whatever it is, what it is, I

744
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: gotta be chilled.

745
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: I gotta be chilling.

746
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: And then somebody says that one thing, dog, somebody says

747
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 4: one thing, Kelvin and y'all and tennas go up and

748
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: you hear it in full and as much as you

749
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: don't want to respond, as much as you shouldn't respond,

750
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: you end up responding.

751
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: Dog. So I understand what it's like. I know that's

752
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: their team.

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00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 9: M A.

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00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: I know it. For John Moran, he just kind of

755
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: had to.

756
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 3: You know, laughing off. YEA, yeah, yeah too, man. I'm

757
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: gonna give you it's tough. I'm gonna be honest with you.

758
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: Man.

759
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: For the most part of sports, in any sport, I

760
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: don't care. But like right now, I got I got

761
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 3: the Dodgers going on and TEAE one of the TV's.

762
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: I got XFL on another TV. Obviously, I got the

763
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: Keys Warriors. You all usually we don't do that, right

764
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: you people?

765
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 7: Hey, you how gonna you people?

766
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 9: You?

767
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: You people?

768
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: You for you current and former athletes, you guys and

769
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: gals are amazing. Your restraint level is unprecedented. No, I

770
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: mean it's sincerely. The stuff you all endure, well, they

771
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: make millions millions. Ain't got nothing to do what you

772
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: call it my mom of this my wife or that

773
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: my daughter, or this my son or that my myself

774
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: for this and not to mention oftentimes those things come

775
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: at my worst moment, meaning I missed a shot to

776
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 3: win a game, you know, I threw an interception. My

777
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: head's down and I'm walking out and I'm a blankety

778
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: blank blank blank right. I you know, well you saw

779
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 3: what your boy, Mike Trout. You strike out right and

780
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: show hey strikes you out ninth inning, full count, that

781
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: kind of big, pressurized moment, and I'm already sick myself.

782
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm upset. You're gonna double up on it, calling me this,

783
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: call me that. The fact that ninety eight point nine

784
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: percent of the time you all nothing, that these things

785
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: happen without incident is a credit to you people.

786
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's a credit to you guys. Seriously.

787
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: I mean that seriously, Like I don't know, and you

788
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: know me, I'm a pretty calm, cool headed, level headed,

789
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: collected guy, But I don't know if I'm a blankety

790
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: blank blank blank every single day, and these fans have

791
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: gotten carried away. And I really could think it take

792
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: a deep dive here, but I don't want people wouldn't

793
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: want me to go there. I could really take a

794
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: deep dive here, but I won't where. You know, it's

795
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: just a certain yeah, I'll just say, folks get carried

796
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: away with it, and the fact that most things don't

797
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: happen like most guys, you know, you just take it,

798
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: you walk out, You maybe say something back, shut up,

799
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: or something that's remarkable because to your point, I can't

800
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 3: imagine and people just thinking they can throw stuff at you.

801
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: You see, you see, whether it's hockey, basketball, to walk

802
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: into the tunnel and people dump popcorn on them, and like, dude,

803
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: it's actually insane that majority of the time these things

804
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: happen without incident.

805
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: It's impressive.

806
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: A whole lot more to get to again, I want

807
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit, dive a little

808
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: deeper into what potentially could be a big matchup folks

809
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: will be looking for if the Warriors are able to

810
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: pull this off. And I haven't heard from you about

811
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: Yiannis and the whole failure thing. I want to talk

812
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: about that a little bit more, because you got some

813
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: crowds of saying, hey, what are we teaching our kids?

814
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: There is a such thing as failure, others saying, way

815
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 3: to you know, contextualize this, Yannis. We'll break that down

816
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: in a little bit later as well as Fox Sports Sunday.

817
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 3: Kelvin Washington, Ryan Hollins with you on this Sunday coming

818
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: to you live from the Tireck dot Com Studios.

819
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot.

820
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: Of time left, but it's starting to feel like the

821
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: joy and excited and on you hearing this song is

822
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: how folks are filling up there in the bay with.

823
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: Their warriors.

824
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: As they are up right now fourteen with about eight

825
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: point thirty left in this game. Kings down ninety five

826
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: eighty one. Steph Curry's out a heck of a game.

827
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: The mouthpieces all chewed up, so you know what time

828
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: it is when that happens. Klay Thompson's made some big

829
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: shots and yeah, we'll see if the Kings are able

830
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: to make a run.

831
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Washington with you, Ryan Hollins with you on this

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00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 3: the Kings are on their last tire, if any tread

839
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: left on that tire right now, are they able to

840
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: make a push her Ryan? Who got a quick one here?

841
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: What are you thinking the Kings are going to be

842
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: able to do the leaving Smota wide open? Draymond kind

843
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: of doing the Kaitlin Clark like, I ain't even gonna

844
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: guard you, bro, just you know, you wide open, Just

845
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: do what you want to do. Let me ask you

846
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: how difficult is that when you're sabonus, a skilled big

847
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: can hit the shot and you don't want to just

848
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 3: take it every time, But it's literally there every time

849
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: because Raymond is like, nah, I'm gonna go shade on

850
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 3: dearon Fox or shade on Monk a little bit.

851
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: You can have that.

852
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

853
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: The Kings have the best offense in the NBA, and

854
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: you have to pick their poison. And that's the poison

855
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 4: that Kurr is willing to pick. Because if he takes

856
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 4: that little fifteen footer and he misses that shot. It's

857
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: something that's on Sabonis's mind to answer. If they have enough,

858
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 4: here's the key I want you guys to look for.

859
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: If you are watching the game and blessed enough to

860
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 4: be listening to us, we appreciate you. If they can

861
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 4: get stops and get in transition, they got to speed

862
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: the game up. You see, the game is starting to

863
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: slow down. Golden State's grinding. They're getting good looks at

864
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: the rim, and that's what's really changing the ballgame right now,

865
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: so that that is the big difference in the game.

866
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: If they can do that, they will have a chance.

867
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 4: But right now they haven't been able to Golden State

868
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 4: is because the three balls getting taken away, they're getting

869
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: run off the three point line, they're making those second

870
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: and third passes and they're getting layups, they're getting found,

871
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: they're getting offensive rebounds because you have to overplay, and

872
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: that's what Golden State has taking advantage of it. And

873
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 4: that's what makes Golden State different is because they can

874
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: go ahead and grind, they can beat up your scouting report.

875
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 4: And when I say beat up the scouting report, it

876
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 4: means Hey, we're gonna take them off the three point line,

877
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 4: so they drive, and when they go to drive, then

878
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 4: they start hitting threes.

879
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's why they're raining champs.

880
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: And by the way they might be are they like

881
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: the most and could be recency biased, So I'm let

882
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: me pause for a runner, But oh my god, I

883
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: feel like because it's been a struggle, they were horrific

884
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 3: on the road.

885
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: This has been one of the more like warrior teams

886
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: that are rainting champs that we.

887
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 3: Totally don't talk about in the sense we're just like, hey,

888
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: like all the Lakers get healthy, all look at Boston

889
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: do what they do. Man, this is the year Janni's

890
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: gonna win it again. Like, I feel like the war

891
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: has kind of just been, which is probably how they

892
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 3: prefer it, right us to kind of put bury them alive,

893
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: and then they all of a sudden do what they do.

894
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: When they do what they do, it just seems like

895
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: they're right there to make, you know, get right back

896
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: in this thing and you never know how another finals

897
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: run like they did last year when it was kind

898
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: of out of the blue. So we'll keep an eye.

899
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye on this game. I do when

900
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: we come back. I do want to ask you this

901
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: here about Yannis. Yannis, do you the whole failure not failure?

902
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 2: Sam?

903
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: When we come back, do we have the sound from you? Honest,

904
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure we do somewhere right if I want to.

905
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: I want to contextualize this with someone like yourself, Ryan,

906
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: who spent so many years in the NBA, even if

907
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: you go back to college, just trying to, you know,

908
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 3: play sports where it really is something where we say, hey,

909
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: did you win or lose? That's what we care about.

910
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: But I do think with Yannis it poses a different

911
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: type of thing. So we'll get into that in just

912
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: a little bit.

913
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Again.

914
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: So we're gonna be watching this game seeing what happens next,

915
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: because obviously if whoever wins this game is me facing

916
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: the Lakers. If you're the NBA, I think you're drooling.

917
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 3: If you get a Lakers Warriors Lebron Curry at it again,

918
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: you gotta be drooling like this is a great situation

919
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: for them. And if you're the Warriors, you got to

920
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 3: be excited the fact that Andrew Wiggins is back because

921
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: they just showed him on the Tevani he's playing well.

922
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: So We'll keep you updated. We're gonna come back talk

923
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: a little. Gianni's Ryan Kelvin with you on a Fox

924
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Speaker 3: Sports Sunday.

925
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

926
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Speaker 3: First stole a couple more for Ryan and myself. It

934
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: is just getting bad here, man.

935
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: What is it?

936
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: A twenty two point lead now for the Warriors, a

937
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: little just under half of the game left. Unless the

938
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 3: Kings make some incredible push and get down maybe five

939
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: or six with a couple of minutes left, this looks

940
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: like this thing maybe over and so all of a sudden,

941
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: you see, and really even with the Lakers close out game.

942
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: I was there that night, Ryan, you kind of.

943
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: Just see proven champions and the Lakers with Lebron and

944
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 3: Ad having had been there, and obviously Lebron a bunch

945
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: of times before figuring out a way to get it done.

946
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: You're seeing the Warriors now figuring out a way to

947
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: get it done.

948
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: And I want to say this because I'm getting a

949
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: text from a certain friend of mine.

950
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: Listen, one of the things.

951
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: I like to do is that not that I was

952
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: wrong or that Okay, let me publicly show the love

953
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 3: when somebody does something. You know, how you say, maybe

954
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: a player, I would love to see them do this,

955
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 3: or I would love to see them do that. Steph

956
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: Curry is phenomenal, the greatest shooter we've ever seen, one

957
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: of the best of all time. But one of the

958
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: things I've always critic been critical of, not criticized him,

959
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: but been critical of is when people put him in

960
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: like alwa, he's the best player in the NBA. You know,

961
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: for a few years, I'm like, well, it's hard for

962
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: me to say that when someone was so singularly focused

963
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 3: like just scoring, not obviously Draymond's probably their best passer,

964
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: he's not obviously the best defender, he's not their best rebounder.

965
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 3: And for me, it was like he is incredible, but

966
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: people were like, oh, he's better than this player, all

967
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: time greats. He's better than this all time great And

968
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: it was always kind of like a right hold on

969
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: a little bit. My biggest thing, Ryan, you can appreciate

970
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: this was I always wanted to see if he himself,

971
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: singularly could get it done. And he had had to

972
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: do that the way the team works, the way the

973
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: system works. He can run around and give the ball back.

974
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 3: Run aroun run right, run around, get the ball back.

975
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: Run.

976
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: I wanted to see every now and can you just

977
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: hold the ball and get a bucket? Can you just

978
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: hold the ball and make it happen? Can you just

979
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 3: be the guy to get it done? In the last

980
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: few seasons, he's been able to do that, even in

981
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: the postseason last year. You even saw it when they

982
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: lost the season before, I think was in the play in,

983
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: but he was still able to get it done. A

984
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: lot of credit to him for just being like, hey man,

985
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: sometimes if the system ain't working, sometimes the clay is off,

986
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: Draymond ain't shooting, I'm gonna get it done. And I

987
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: hadn't really seen that him that let in the last

988
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: couple of years where he himself, not the system not

989
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: you know, the way it was working or there I'm

990
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: talking about you, and he has been doing that. He's

991
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: been doing that right now and has been remarkable to see.

992
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: So big time credit to Steph. He's played his butt

993
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 3: off this series and especially this game.

994
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: I think those questions came when Kevin Durant came. And

995
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 4: I think that whether whatever fan base you're from, however

996
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: you were used to it. You know, Kelvin, we grew

997
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 4: up defense win championships. You know, hey, can you out

998
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: rebound us? You know, live by the three, die by three? Right,

999
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: you remember that That's what we grew up with. So

1000
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 4: Steph Curry did have to prove a lot to our generation.

1001
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,479
Speaker 4: But I think he's so dynamic offensively that you give

1002
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: him a pass when it comes to the defense.

1003
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: Right now.

1004
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 4: Also in terms of Steph, I mentioned Kevin Durant, and

1005
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: because Kevin Durant was so dynamic, so good, I think

1006
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: there were some people wondering what is stuff really doing?

1007
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 4: And I think when you look back and from the

1008
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: guys that I I've played with, that played with him,

1009
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 4: that know him, they've always said that, hey, Steph is selfless.

1010
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 4: So him being selfless, that's where the legacy is. And

1011
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: I think that he was and is able to prove that.

1012
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: But you had a.

1013
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 4: Lot of Curry haters out there that said he wasn't clutch.

1014
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a clutch as we're watching this.

1015
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 4: It wasn't just the championship. We've been clutched before that.

1016
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: But I think this is Duke Kelvin. Forgive me if

1017
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 4: I'm wrong. This feels like the NBA Finals. You are

1018
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: playing against Sacramento and on their home turf, and you're right,

1019
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 4: every everybody wasn't rolling. Everybody wasn't kind of like getting

1020
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: it done, and he stepped up and he was the guy.

1021
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: You know, Hey, Draymond didn't have that twenty points that

1022
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 4: he had the other night. Clay kind of wasn't wasn't rolling,

1023
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: and if it was left to them, you know, they

1024
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: would have lost this ballgame. So Steph Curry another notch

1025
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 4: in the legacy. But I think it's ridiculous that some

1026
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 4: people think he's not that dude. I think he's just

1027
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 4: been so selfless that he is willing to take a

1028
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: back seat in some of those situations.

1029
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: I'll say this and that want to get to the

1030
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: Ghana's For me, it wasn't that he's not that dude.

1031
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: It's just as much as once this happens with anybody,

1032
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: right Lebron, once he became after you know, year five

1033
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 3: six is we start to have these all time legacy conversations.

1034
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: And the challenge for me was that where we were

1035
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 3: putting Steph above so many people. I was like, well,

1036
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: my big thing was, yeah, those people I knew in

1037
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 3: a game five, six seven crucial, I knew they could

1038
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: do it singularly, need be Steph. I hadn't. I didn't

1039
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: see that. Again, this is a couple of season ago,

1040
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: so I'm not talking.

1041
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: From the point this position. You just talking about every

1042
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: all time.

1043
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: Great, all time grade, not this point guard which all

1044
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: time great. And they were putting him ahead of a

1045
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 3: lot of people, like for here, give you an example.

1046
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: People were putting him ahead of Bird, And I'm like, well,

1047
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: I knew for a fact Bird would go in and say,

1048
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: nah I got us tonight.

1049
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: Well what if Kevin m nah I.

1050
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: Got well if Robert pared, nah I got us tonight.

1051
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 3: And I felt like up until you know, again, in

1052
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: the last couple of season, I hadn't seen that from

1053
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 3: Steph singularly.

1054
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: And now it's to the point where now he's just

1055
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: playing with you.

1056
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 3: If he hits this lay up right here, Okay, that's

1057
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 3: going to be the number one player on Sports Center.

1058
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: Dude.

1059
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 3: Just what he just did right there was out of line.

1060
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 3: He's gotten carried away. So it's looking like congrats to

1061
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: the Warriors. We'll get to that once it officially happens.

1062
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: I want to switch gears here. One of the things

1063
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: we knew. It's such a finite thing or not finite.

1064
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: It's such a black.

1065
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: Or white in sports, right you won or you lost

1066
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: playing and simple we kind of have that. It's over,

1067
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: you know, That's what all that comes down to, win

1068
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: or lose the Bucks the number one seed, number one

1069
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: overall seed, arguably the best player in the league. And

1070
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: he would say in Giannis going up against a team

1071
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: that barely made it wasn't supposed to be there in

1072
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: the playing game, and that is the heat, and all

1073
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: of a sudden they lose to the heat, and then

1074
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 3: we have is Sam over there? Sam, can you play

1075
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 3: the Yannis for me second? Just for folks, And obviously

1076
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 3: everybody's heard of it, but I want to refresh what

1077
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: he said, because I think it's an interesting conversation that

1078
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: now is being had all over social media, because it

1079
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: becomes if I ask you, as a reporter, do you

1080
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: consider this season of failure? Well, some folks you're saying,

1081
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: are you asking my season? Are you saying this particular moment?

1082
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: Are you saying the whole season? And it becomes how

1083
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: we dissect how one interprets the question, right, Because if

1084
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: you're Yiannis or somebody, I played my balled out. I

1085
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: had an MVP type season, So no, it's not a failure.

1086
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: But others saying, hey, you're the number one seed and

1087
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: and and all of a sudden, you guys lose to

1088
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: an eight seed.

1089
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: So here's what Yiannis had to say. Well, we'll respond

1090
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 2: on the other side.

1091
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: I just asked the exact same question, But I'm curious

1092
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: for you. Do you view this season as a failure?

1093
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: You asked me the same question last year.

1094
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 10: Eric, Okay, do you get do you get the promotion

1095
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 10: every year on your job? Not? Right, So every year

1096
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 10: you work, it's a failure, yes or no. No, Every

1097
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 10: year you work, you work towards something towars a goal, right,

1098
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 10: which is to get a promotion, to be able, to

1099
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 10: take care of your family, to be able I don't know,

1100
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 10: provide the house for them, or take care of your parents.

1101
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 10: You work towards a goal. He's not the failure. It

1102
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 10: steps to success.

1103
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: You know.

1104
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 10: And if you've never I don't know, I don't I

1105
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 10: don't mean the person. So there's always steps.

1106
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: To it, you know.

1107
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 10: Michael Jordan played fifteen years, won six championship.

1108
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: The other nine years was a failure.

1109
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 10: That's what you're telling me. No, Max to your question,

1110
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 10: yes or no? Okay, exactly, So why are you ask

1111
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 10: me that question?

1112
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna jump in there. So that's where

1113
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: it gets interesting because Michael Jordan was at home with

1114
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: a cup of Kooniak and a cigar in his mouth,

1115
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: and Michael Jordan was like, you dang right, it was

1116
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: a failure. Michael Jordan was at home like absolutely, it

1117
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: was a failure.

1118
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: I didn't win.

1119
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 3: They came back after, you know, and I lost to

1120
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: the Orlando Magic. I had to turn over. They want

1121
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 3: to get that was a failure. Washington went the fail

1122
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 3: That's how Mike is cut. Mike is cut like that.

1123
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: Kobe God bless his soul was mostly cut like that.

1124
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 3: And I think what you heard there was from somebody

1125
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: who is upbringing where he's from, the way that we

1126
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: know he's a family person, meeting his immediately as well

1127
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: as his extended as brothers and mom and dad. The

1128
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: man is fought poverty. Man was on the streets selling stuff.

1129
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 3: Listen for him. He's like, Man, I'm working towards something.

1130
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 3: Do you know, I came into this league with zero expectations.

1131
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 3: I was like a fall. I was like a little

1132
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: a fawn. I was a little Bambi, right.

1133
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

1134
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to utilize my body. I had

1135
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: no skill set. I've gotten better. I'm a two time MVP,

1136
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: I'm a finals MVP, I've won a championship. I've got

1137
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 3: For him, he's looking at the totality of this whole thing.

1138
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: It's like, if you look at a person's life, it's

1139
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 3: the reason why we love amazing stories, whether it be

1140
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: business people, whether it be movies, where you have this

1141
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 3: complex character who started off this way, right, maybe they

1142
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 3: were in gangs, or they were broke, or they were poor,

1143
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: or they were whatever.

1144
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: They were not educated.

1145
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 3: Then they go on educate themselves and then they had

1146
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 3: this or the good thing bad, and then they had

1147
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: the bad.

1148
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: They lost the business.

1149
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: Like he's looking at the totality of his seasons and

1150
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: most likely his career, so it's hard for him to

1151
00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 3: hear the word failure.

1152
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, I made it, and I didn't just

1153
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: make it. I'm the best.

1154
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 3: So if I look at probably a fifteen to twenty

1155
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: year career, heck, no, is not a failure, whereas I

1156
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: think other people like him Michael Jordan, look at the

1157
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: single season. This moment, my expectation is championship or bus

1158
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 3: so it's a failure. So that's why I think this

1159
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 3: is gonna become a little difficult to have these conversations

1160
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 3: because each person deems that question then and what they

1161
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: want to rate a success. Meaning for Giannis, it's gonna

1162
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: be his whole life, you get what I mean, it's

1163
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 3: his whole career. So the idea of hearing the word

1164
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 3: failure is gonna be hard for him to hear. That's

1165
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: like a it's a triggering word.

1166
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 4: I would imagine, I'm gonna give you a very unique

1167
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 4: perspective because I have a very unique relationship with Giannis.

1168
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be frank with you and Wenna, We're gonna

1169
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: go there. I seemingly to the pupplic lie it have

1170
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 4: been and you've seen this, Calvin the number one Giannis hater,

1171
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: whatever they may be. Okay, I love what that kid

1172
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 4: brings to the table. But at that time I was

1173
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: employed to answer and Kelvin you know this also to

1174
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 4: answer direct questions and the biggest debate in sports at

1175
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: that time, because Giannis was the biggest rising, emerging young talent,

1176
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 4: was hey, is it and here's the here's the gift

1177
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 4: in the curse? When you are that good, the questions

1178
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 4: are always are you the next Michael Jordan? Are you

1179
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: the next Lebron James? Are you the next Kobe Bryant?

1180
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 4: That's how good that Giannis was in the season that

1181
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: he was having and what he was having in question.

1182
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: For me at that moment, he was not that. And

1183
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: when you are working upon those shows, the it's it's

1184
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 4: black and white, it's not in between.

1185
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: It's not well, he's this, He's okay, he's a Are

1186
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: you this dude or not? Is he the MVP or not?

1187
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: Is he Michael Jordan or not?

1188
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: I was on the at that time, with all due

1189
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 4: respect or not, part of the conversation. So I think

1190
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 4: Giannis like any other player, and we lie when we

1191
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 4: say we don't watch the newspaper, we don't look we

1192
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 4: look at it. Okay, who's seen those debates about him

1193
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 4: and heard those things and saying, I know y'all gonna

1194
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 4: run with this one. I know I just lost to

1195
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 4: the eight seed and y'all can't wait to tear me down.

1196
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 4: Y'all can't wait to have the Yannis party and the

1197
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 4: Yannas show again. And I think that this is a

1198
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 4: different scenario. I think when you look at Yannis, he's

1199
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: gone forward and he certified himself in bringing a championship

1200
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: to Milwaukee that outreaches and outweighs the two time MVP

1201
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: the regular season accolades. Okay, so had he failed in

1202
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 4: the playoffs before, I agree, But after you certify yourself

1203
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 4: to that next level, the only thing next for him

1204
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 4: to do is to be in that Hakeem Elijah and

1205
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, a Shaquille O'Neill type of talk.

1206
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 4: So from Yannis's standpoint, it's not a failure from who

1207
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 4: he is. But I can tell and it's any player

1208
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna speak to what it never having a conversation

1209
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 4: with him or not and that those words hurt, they

1210
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 4: spur you on and you think about it, and and

1211
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: I think that I think people take it out of context,

1212
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 4: but it is. It's part of the job when I'm

1213
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 4: asking you, hey, man, are you on the left side

1214
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: or the right side. And I think that he's become

1215
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 4: that dude. You have to be proud of his accomplishments,

1216
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: of who he is and and happy and grateful. But Kelvin,

1217
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 4: I think that's why he went so hard on the answer.

1218
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 4: But we all know, Yeah, they underachieved, y'all. Wann't supposed

1219
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 4: to lose to the team who lost in the plan

1220
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 4: and then won the second bout in the plan. They

1221
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 4: weren't supposed to lose that game, Dog, And no, it

1222
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 4: ain't Nobody should back up off that.

1223
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: But Jannis knows, like Dog, I'm gonna be back.

1224
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 4: This ain't a failure for me because you're gonna have

1225
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 4: to see me again again and again.

1226
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: Am I wrong, Kelvin, No, You're not wrong.

1227
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: And I think but I do think it's fair and

1228
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 3: it's not a shot at him personally to say that

1229
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: season was a failure. You're the number one seed, you're

1230
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: the best player, Your defense is good, you got games

1231
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: where you got Brook Lopez going for thirty plus points.

1232
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: You can't lose this series to a team that wasn't

1233
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 3: even supposed to be in the postseason.

1234
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: So I think you can. Absolutely.

1235
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: I think he can view it that way, And it

1236
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: is perfectly fine and fair for someone else to say

1237
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: to the GI honest, love you the person, love your story.

1238
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: It is a beautiful thing, Brud. That was a failure.

1239
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: I think two things can be true at once, and

1240
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: I think that it is again okay for someone to

1241
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: say that was actually a failure that they did not

1242
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: get to where they were supposed to get to. All Right,

1243
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: we're gonna talk some NFL draft talk, some big moves

1244
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: that have happened when you're talking about trades and Aaron Rodgers,

1245
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: the King of New York. We're gonna have Adam Kaplan

1246
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 3: join us here and just a little bit to break

1247
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: down some of the things that we've seen happen over

1248
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 3: the last four or five days, including, as you mentioned earlier,

1249
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson getting signed as well getting that deal. We'll

1250
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 3: do that next. It is Fox Sports Sunday, Kelvin Washington,

1251
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: Ryan Hollins with you. Not like a good print, screen

1252
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: every now and again, right, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday,

1253
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 3: Kevin Washington along with my guy Ryan Hollands, feeling good.

1254
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: Hopefully you are as well.

1255
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 3: Big time win from the Warriors, twenty point win, but

1256
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: Steph Curry goes nuts. Fifty points on twenty of thirty

1257
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 3: eighty was seven of eighteen. By the way, step eight boy,

1258
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: I'll tell you times have changed. Larry Bird's rolling around

1259
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: his grave. I know Larry Bird is alive, but that

1260
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 3: is not the point. Reggae Archie Miller rolling around his grave,

1261
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: I know is alive around his greave. You are allowed

1262
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: to take eighteen threes and we don't even battern. I'm

1263
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 3: literally looking at his stat line seven of eighteen from

1264
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: three and no one's gonna be no one's gonna blame,

1265
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: no one's gonna say, oh, he's tried eighteen three.

1266
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: What's the big deal?

1267
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 3: Larry Bird is like, are you if you let me

1268
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: shoot eighteen threes in a game and no one would

1269
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 3: even say anything. That's like if all of a sudden

1270
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 3: to bring in Adam kaplan of course, our NFL insider,

1271
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 3: that would be like if you just said, hey, regularly

1272
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 3: quarterbacks could throw seventy five eighty times.

1273
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: A game regularly, not like whoa. He had to go

1274
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 2: to the running was hurt and he had to do it.

1275
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 2: I'm talking every week.

1276
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: If Pat Mahomes or now Aaron Rodgers with the Jets,

1277
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 3: we're just throwing seventy five times and that would be normal.

1278
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: Dan Marino will be sitting there like, man, if y'all

1279
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: let me, well daan Marine almost did sometimes, but you know.

1280
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: What I mean.

1281
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 3: John l would be like, man, if you let me

1282
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 3: throw the ball that many times. But I bring in

1283
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan again, a Fox Sports Radio NFL insider Inside

1284
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: the Birds podcast, and of course you can find them

1285
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: Caplin at Kaplin NFL on Twitter. Adam, thank you for

1286
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 3: being here with us. Want to get to of course,

1287
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 3: the draft just sums up, just ends for me. I

1288
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 3: think for many folks, the quarterbacks are most of the

1289
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: time the biggest stories. You go from a season ago

1290
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: where a draft to go where there's one in the

1291
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: first round I think seven total, and then all of

1292
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Speaker 3: a sudden you get big numbers this year. I think

1293
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 3: it's what thirteen quarterbacks take in. Folks are saying next

1294
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 3: year should be even possibly even more as there's some

1295
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 3: more quarterbacks. They are saying that should be spectacular. And

1296
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: here we are where the first three of the four

1297
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: picks ar quarterbacks. And I'm gonna go there and say,

1298
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 3: first time we've seen it, you had black quarterbacks three

1299
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: taking the top four. But it's not just black in

1300
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: the sense of their skin tone, right, or ethnicity or anything.

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00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 3: It is that the style of play. It seems like

1302
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: Adam the NFL has thrown in the towel with the

1303
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: old I need him to be six foot five and

1304
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 3: he needs to be understand in the pocket and throw

1305
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: the ball, and he needs to look like Andrew Luck

1306
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: and whatever the case. Now it's not even just simply black.

1307
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 3: By the way, let me give credit to that as

1308
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: a black man growing up and I'm forty something years

1309
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: old and I remember where it's like, yo, you know,

1310
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: I remember seeing the guys play that I watched in

1311
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 3: college and mean like, well, I guess I'll go be

1312
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: a dB or wide receiver quarter a store. You have

1313
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: to be a slash And so it is an amazing thing.

1314
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 3: Let me be real when I say that, to see

1315
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 3: this that I can tell my nephews and others, Oh,

1316
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 3: you can go in there and pleae quarterback and not

1317
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: only be one, but dominate and get paid. We'll get

1318
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 3: to that in the moment. But the style in which

1319
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 3: they're playing. Talk about that where it's not just simply hey,

1320
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: we're gonna drop this black quarterback. It's hey, we're gonna

1321
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: drave this quarterback who is an athlete, and we're comfortable

1322
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: with that and we don't have to try to sell

1323
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 3: it at well, he's a running and he's an athlete,

1324
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 3: but he can know he's a quarterback who's dynamic both

1325
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: throwing and passing.

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00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 9: He actually, both Stroud and Young are not known for

1327
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 9: the run at all, to be honest with it, particularly Stroud.

1328
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 9: In fact, the one criticism that NFL people would give

1329
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 9: is like he just doesn't run. But that's fine because

1330
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 9: he throws the ball really well. Right, you know, all

1331
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 9: the criticism that he got for the draft, I just

1332
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 9: thought it was ridiculous. I think people are just looking

1333
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 9: for something. There's that cognitive test where the it's a

1334
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 9: new test. It's only been around three or four years

1335
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 9: where teams use it. It's just it's one of the

1336
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 9: ten things that they look at. But and kudos to Nicosia,

1337
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 9: the general manager of the text, it's not to worry

1338
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 9: about that. And what I love what he did was

1339
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 9: the guy they were going to take there had Stroud

1340
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 9: been gone or something happened, is they were going to

1341
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 9: go with will Anderson. So then what they did was

1342
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 9: they made a trade. They were able to get the

1343
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 9: third pick. Overall, they're able to get Will Anderson there,

1344
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 9: so that you know, this is a total rebuild. There's

1345
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 9: not a lot of teams in are total rebuild what

1346
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 9: the Texans are. So they got their quarterback, and they

1347
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 9: needed bad they needed past Rusher Badley and they got

1348
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 9: that as well.

1349
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 4: Kay, we talked about it earlier. Aaron Rodgers is everywhere

1350
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 4: and the man is in the garden. Kelvin said, he's

1351
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: hooping at rutger Man. He's having all these signings. Did

1352
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: he just make the Jets by far the best team

1353
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 4: in the division? A Jay, are they back?

1354
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: What type of weapons does Aaron hat over there? Is

1355
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: he gonna have control? Is he? I always say that

1356
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: in the basketball terms.

1357
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant kind of followed Lebron James' career and said, Okay,

1358
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: Lebron asked for this, I'm gonna ask for a level

1359
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: of this shout out to Katie forgetting that lifetime deal

1360
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 4: from Nike.

1361
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: Is he getting his Tom Brady on now?

1362
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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Look, he he made the decision that this

1363
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 9: was with the team that he wanted to play with.

1364
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Speaker 9: He's back with Nathaniel Hacket, the offensive coordinator for the Jets,

1365
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 9: who he was with in Green Bay for some years,

1366
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Speaker 9: and they're very close and they're gonna run the exact

1367
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 9: same offense they ran in Green Bay, so that that's

1368
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 9: a big thing for him. And look, they're in good

1369
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 9: shape here. They'll definitely challenge. Look, they'll be the number

1370
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 9: two team because they didn't have a quarterback last year.

1371
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Speaker 9: That's why other season went up in flames after a

1372
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Speaker 9: great start. So yeah, look they're in good shape. They

1373
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 9: resigned their center, Connor McGovern, which is a big thing.

1374
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Speaker 9: They just got him back last week. They've got some

1375
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 9: issues on their offensive line, but overall, now they have

1376
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 9: the quarterback and they've got this great defense. They had

1377
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 9: a terrific draft last year. That's the other part about

1378
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 9: this this thing is why this thing could go forward.

1379
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 9: They got the quarterback and they're ready to roll here. Yeah,

1380
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 9: he's Look, they've done a good job supporting him, and

1381
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 9: they will definitely push the Bills, who had to drop

1382
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 9: off last season.

1383
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: The Bills are clearly not as good as a lot

1384
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: of us thought. Adam Kaplin with us, Ryan Hollins Coven

1385
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: Washington with you. Let me ask you this.

1386
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna stay there with Aaron Rodgers for a

1387
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 3: minute again. Who was living it up? I swear I

1388
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: seen him with a New York slice of pizza the

1389
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 3: other day. I mean he is just getting his New

1390
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 3: York on. I mean no, I'm telling you, I like

1391
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: next thing. I know he's gonna spit some bars with

1392
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 3: Jay Z. Now let me ask you this though. I

1393
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: feel as if we're all, oh my gosh, you going

1394
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: the just have so much talent. All they needed was

1395
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 3: a leader and a quarterback. Yeah, well, here's my thing.

1396
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 3: He's been in Green Bay and a division that has

1397
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: been mad, and as a Lions fan for all these

1398
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: years of my life, trust me, I know he's had weapons.

1399
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Speaker 3: He has a medium weapons, he's had amazing defenses. He said, Yeah,

1400
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: he's had everything he's needed for about fifteen years. Now,

1401
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: to me, why is this any different? Why is it

1402
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: okay he's going to a different team. But the AFC

1403
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 3: is loaded. Right, We're just now seeing that you got

1404
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson gonna stay with the Ravens, who are gonna

1405
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 3: be a high quality team.

1406
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: You got with Buffalo and Josh Allen.

1407
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 3: We already know what Pat Mahomie gets down and does

1408
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 3: you know you got and then you got some the charges.

1409
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 2: What's that gonna be? The gigs?

1410
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: What's that gonna be so all of a sudden to me,

1411
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, why is all of a Suddenerybody's like

1412
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 3: super Bowl?

1413
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Speaker 2: He's going to a conference. To me, that is the

1414
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: scarier conference.

1415
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 9: Now, yeah, I think the AFC is better. Look, he's

1416
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 9: what they've done is a cancity even up with the Bills.

1417
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 9: But the Jets are much better football team because they

1418
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 9: have an lead quarterback. Though at thirty nine, if we

1419
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 9: see the best of him, that remains to be seen.

1420
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 9: Got to protect him. But yeah, I would agree with

1421
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 9: your assessment. The AFC on paper better. And Lamar was

1422
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 9: never going anywhere because he had no leverage. He doesn't

1423
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 9: get anywhere close to the contract that he wanted. Once

1424
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts did his deal last week, he could see

1425
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 9: I mean, look, he could have waited until the summer

1426
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 9: when when Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert get their deals.

1427
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 9: They most likely will get their deals. It's just a

1428
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 9: matter of ken those respective teams up the guaranteed money.

1429
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,439
Speaker 9: It's signing like those guys are gonna want. But look

1430
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 9: that Lamar's back. They've got a brand new offense. I

1431
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 9: know that was very big for them to get Lamari

1432
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 9: in there. With Todd Monck and the new offensive coordinator

1433
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 9: in Baltimore, they're gonna have a new offense. And that's

1434
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 9: a that's a conference where you really look at it. Yeah,

1435
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 9: you mentioned the Chargers. They're a good football team. Their

1436
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 9: defense is the problem. They did make the playoffs last season,

1437
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 9: tough choke at Jacksonville, and Jacksonville is much improved as

1438
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 9: we know.

1439
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is now the Jets. The Jets now.

1440
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Speaker 9: The expectations as we finished this part off, the expectations

1441
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 9: have to be the playoffs. Anything short is not going

1442
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 9: to be good for their coaching staff. Will there be

1443
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 9: a failure, like we said with Yahne's is it a failure, oh,

1444
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 9: not to make the payoffs?

1445
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: Woud certainly be if they don't.

1446
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 9: If the Jets don't make the playoffs, Look, remember, now

1447
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 9: we've get seven teams make the playoffs, but we don't

1448
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 9: have six anymore. You get seven teams in sure, absolutely

1449
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 9: if they can't make the playoffs, though they afc stronger,

1450
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 9: that would be a failure.

1451
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: If everybody's healthy.

1452
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 4: Who won they drave Houston or Philly or other. I'm

1453
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 4: leading towards Houston or Philly.

1454
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: Helped me out here Philly.

1455
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Speaker 9: It's could Janen Carter stay out of trouble? He's It's

1456
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 9: not just the off the field incident. He had some

1457
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,959
Speaker 9: issues with the teammates and coaches over the years. There's

1458
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 9: just there's some stuff there with him that be Eagles

1459
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 9: know about it, every team knows about all. The baggage

1460
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 9: is just he just got to grow up. On paper,

1461
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 9: their draft looks really, really good. I love Seattle's draft.

1462
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 9: Devin Witherspoon were certainly was a surprise. They didn't want

1463
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 9: Jalen Carter though their biggest knee was defensive tackle, but

1464
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 9: they went with Devin Wetherspoon, Jackson Smith, and Jigba, who

1465
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 9: was wildly expected to be the first receiver off the board.

1466
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Speaker 1: He was so I really liked what they did there.

1467
01:03:58,200 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: And then when you go around it.

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Speaker 9: I'll give you an underrated team here Pittsburgh talking to

1469
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 9: a Steelers shorts. Boy, they feel really good about Broderick

1470
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 9: Jones upgrading at left tackle, Joey Porter Junior, who surprisingly

1471
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 9: went the second round, first pick of the second round,

1472
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 9: count of Benton who will play right away defensive tackle,

1473
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 9: Darnell Washington the most intriguing tight end for this draft

1474
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 9: and a great tight end draft, by the way. And

1475
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 9: Nick Herbig who joins his brother Nate with the Steelers.

1476
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 9: Nick and very underrated pass rusher. So I thought the

1477
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 9: Steelers did very, very well.

1478
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Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan joining us right now live for the tire

1479
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 3: rack dot Com studios Kevin Washington and Ryan Hollins. Well,

1480
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Speaker 3: I want to stay, of course with the draft a

1481
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 3: little bit and go back some u is there are

1482
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: there moves obviously as a Lions sort of fan. Yeah,

1483
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: you know you got a good team, though they got

1484
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 3: a good team. So let me okay, I'm gonna throw

1485
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 3: this out everywhere I go the water cooler. You know,

1486
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 3: CBS like people are like, why'd you guys draft running back?

1487
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 2: Folks? Real folks, It was early, but let me ask

1488
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: you this. If we know it's an imperfect science.

1489
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 3: If we know that, don't draft that running back lines

1490
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 3: or someone say with some other team, but you go

1491
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: get some linebacker and he's, eh, not bad. But just

1492
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: it's like if I get a running back that we

1493
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 3: can use, and yes, running backs don't last long, Yes

1494
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 3: running backs you could get him later, Yes, they don't,

1495
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: you know, typically make it to some big payday outside

1496
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 3: of a handful here or there, Ezekiel Elliott.

1497
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: You got of course Saquan and so on.

1498
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 3: But if he is our guy, the guy and it

1499
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 3: helps us in the passing and running game for three years,

1500
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 3: is it not worth it?

1501
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: Or is it? Just? Like?

1502
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 3: Why is running back looked at so differently? Barry Sanders Again,

1503
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: like I said, run around his grave. I know he's

1504
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: alive and I just sa him last year the Super Bowl.

1505
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 3: That is not the point, Barry said, Good, like, what's

1506
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 3: wrong with what's wrong with graft in a running back? Well,

1507
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 3: here's the thing though, with Gibbs the running back from Alabama,

1508
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: he's a smaller running back. There are questions to how

1509
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: much volume in terms of carriage he can handle. And

1510
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 3: that's why the pick was criticized. And then they took

1511
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 3: an off the ball lockbacker, not a pass rusher. Jack

1512
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: Hamill's probably the best inside linebacker for this draft.

1513
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 9: Really good player. It's probably gonna go late first, early second.

1514
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 9: It's just when you're trying to build a championship team,

1515
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 9: you really want to go with value. The value was

1516
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 9: not there for running back and a linebacker. That what

1517
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 9: they need as a pass rusher instead of an inside linebacker.

1518
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 9: And they probably could have used more defensive health, maybe

1519
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 9: a safety, maybe a corner. It's just it's just but look,

1520
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 9: they didn't get Witherspoon. My senses, the trade came about

1521
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 9: because once once Witherspoon didn't go there at five, they

1522
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 9: were out. So yeah, they didn't get quite what they needed.

1523
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 9: But they have a very good roster. That's another team.

1524
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 9: If they don't make the playoffs, I would be disappointed.

1525
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 9: I don't even know why you said that. You've been

1526
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 9: see you've been watching the lines.

1527
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 3: You were watching your you mean watching your the lines

1528
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 3: your whole career, and you're going to sit the bar

1529
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: and tell you know, good and well, they're gonna have

1530
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: a go end up going like six and eleven. And

1531
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 3: where did that come from? Let me let me tell you.

1532
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 3: I've been I've been following them for so long. The

1533
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 3: Lions do Lions things. But hopefully you're right and and

1534
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 3: line fans will be excited if you are quickly, like

1535
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 3: real real quick, Sam, I know you're like, let me

1536
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 3: go real quick. Any other move in the draft that

1537
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 3: you saw, whether it was there was a whole that

1538
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: set a record with trades, any other move or a

1539
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 3: team that you say I secretly or on the low there,

1540
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 3: I like what they did.

1541
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 9: One other team, I would say probably the Giants getting

1542
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 9: Deontay Banks at twenty four. Boy, he excuse me, twenty five. Overall,

1543
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 9: I was surprised that he dropped as far as he did.

1544
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 9: He should start right away for Giants, who quite frankly

1545
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 9: had problems with injuries at corner. And then also when

1546
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 9: you look at it, they got John Michael Smith's from

1547
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 9: Minnesota will be their starting center, and Jalen Hyatt they

1548
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 9: gotten a third round he dropped around. He's probably the

1549
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 9: most explosive receiver for this draft off tape.

1550
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: So I like what they did.

1551
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we will continue to see how these

1552
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 3: young fellas do once the NFL season starts, and obviously

1553
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 3: will training camps and all that good stuff, Adam.

1554
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: We appreciate you joining us as always. Thanks so much,

1555
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 2: brother O.

1556
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:55,479
Speaker 1: Guys, thanks thanks Adam.

1557
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: All right, Manzi, we've held you off long enough. You

1558
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: gave me a look like you got five more second time. Look,

1559
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1560
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 6: Oh if I give you that look, you'll you'll know it.

1561
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: You'll know it.

1562
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 6: Earlier, not at all, Guys, I don't even know what

1563
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 6: to say about Steph Curry. Like it's almost unfair the

1564
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 6: way he scores.

1565
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: It is fish embarrassed, demoralize it.

1566
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, but it's like doesn't matter if you put

1567
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 6: two three people on him. He does a circus act

1568
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 6: and he just makes these incredible shots, falling off of

1569
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 6: one foot, and yet he does it so elegantly. It's incredible.

1570
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 6: Fifty points the most ever in a game seven as

1571
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 6: Chef Curry really single handedly eliminated the Sacramento Kings in

1572
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 6: Game seven. One twenty to one hundred was the final score.

1573
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 6: He even told him to light up the beam. I

1574
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 6: don't know if you noticed that.

1575
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: Now we got a sprat in the parking lot. We

1576
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: gotta fight Ryan Hey.

1577
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 6: One of the plays like it ended in it. He

1578
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 6: looked over and he slammed his hand. He said, light

1579
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 6: up the beam.

1580
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 2: He need bite you up, gay wan. It is the

1581
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: Warriors later and then all of a sudden, you going

1582
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: to see you here? What a little black guy. That's

1583
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 2: because I had to light up his eye.

1584
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: That's it.

1585
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 6: That's what he did.

1586
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: That's what he did.

1587
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 6: But the unsung hero that I'm gonna give the credit

1588
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 6: to is Kevon Looney because he ended with eleven points

1589
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 6: and twenty one rebounds. Nobody on the Kings had more

1590
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 6: than nine rebounds on their own, so he had twenty one.

1591
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 6: The Warriors are not going to face the Lakers on Tuesday.

1592
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 6: This will be the first playoff series between LA and

1593
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 6: Golden State since nineteen ninety one. This is gonna be

1594
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 6: a big game. This isn't the only game seven on

1595
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 6: today's schedule. Fellas actually on the ice two game sevens

1596
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 6: right now. The Panthers are gonna take on the Bruins.

1597
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 6: Six thirty pm Eastern time is when it's supposed to start.

1598
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 6: Are about to start up. I can see the starting lineup.

1599
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 6: Then the Kraken are gonna take on the Rainy Champs

1600
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 6: the Avalanche for their Game seven. That's at nine thirty

1601
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,879
Speaker 6: pm Eastern time. Let's move on to Major League Baseball.

1602
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 6: The Nationals are about to beat the Pirates seven to one,

1603
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 6: top of the ninth inning. They are playing in Washington.

1604
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 6: The Giants are beating the Padres in Mexico City four

1605
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 6: to three bottom of the eighth inning. The Reds and

1606
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 6: the A's are tied at four a piece up at

1607
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 6: the top of the ninth They are playing in Oakland,

1608
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 6: and the Dodgers are beating the Cardinals five to three,

1609
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 6: bottom of the eighth inning. Other MLB news, The Athletic

1610
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 6: is reporting that Bryce Harper is seeing a doctor Monday morning.

1611
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,799
Speaker 6: If he's cleared, he's expected to return to the Phillies

1612
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 6: lineup Tuesday night at Dodger Stadium, only one hundred and

1613
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 6: sixty days after Tommy John surgery. He's like Superman, back

1614
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 6: to you guys.

1615
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 2: All right, we appreciate it. Well, he is like Superman.

1616
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 6: He's like super nice.

1617
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 2: Actually he really is.

1618
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: He really is.

1619
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mont. We appreciate it.

1620
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 5: You know.

1621
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 3: I want to I want to go back to we

1622
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 3: had Adam Kapplam there. I want to go back to

1623
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 3: a little bit real quick with the draft. Something I

1624
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 3: thought was interesting. One of the bigger sports personalities, but

1625
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 3: now and also the last couple of few seasons has

1626
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: been a coach, but still one of the biggest sports

1627
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 3: personalities is Dion Sanders and Ryan.

1628
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this.

1629
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 3: There was only one HBCU player that was drafted, and

1630
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 3: he was like maybe sixth round and he went to

1631
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: Jackson State. He was a player former player for Dion Sanders.

1632
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 3: Deon Sanders went out there and Base was upset with

1633
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 3: the fact with this happening. He was really upset with

1634
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 3: the fact that only won, and he said it was

1635
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 3: a disservice that these thirty one other teams didn't fit

1636
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 3: to draft anyone from the HBCUs.

1637
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: The NFL has an actual combine that is.

1638
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 3: Strictly for HBCUs as are trying to get more representation

1639
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 3: in the league for those players and who are playing

1640
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 3: in those universities. Isaiah Bolden is the one I'm referring

1641
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: to who went in the draft this year, so there

1642
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: was only one. I thought it was interesting because on

1643
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 3: one end, I hear Dion Sanders, I truly do, but

1644
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 3: I also feel like, well, that's why HBCUs. If you

1645
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: feel that way, if you feel that compelled, if you

1646
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 3: feel that strongly they needed you to stay around because

1647
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 3: last year there were four drafted.

1648
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: And a part of that, you could argue, is that he's.

1649
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,480
Speaker 3: There, right, He's promoting the brand, he's helping these HBCUs

1650
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 3: are making, he's getting fans to watching care of it.

1651
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 3: I think ESPN is airing games. It's a big deal,

1652
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: and so for it's like, if you really want things

1653
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 3: to change, you kind of got to be in the

1654
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 3: midst of it. So I'm not mad that he left.

1655
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 3: Go get your money, go coach, you put in your time.

1656
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 3: But I'm saying this is why those who would be

1657
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 3: upset with him, or who would have questioned the move,

1658
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 3: this is why they would say it because you were

1659
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,560
Speaker 3: an ambassador, you were helping to get things changed. You

1660
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: coming all of a sudden, you get ed reed coming

1661
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 3: and obviously that didn't work out. But I mean, you

1662
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 3: get all these former big name players who want to

1663
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 3: come coach. These things are good for the HBCUs, and

1664
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 3: these keep eyeballs on them, and maybe guys get drafted.

1665
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 3: Maybe it's simply because of the pressure you put on

1666
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 3: them being outspoken. So I thought that was interesting where

1667
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, you're saying that, but you're gone. You're

1668
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 3: in Colorado now, and that's why some folks question will

1669
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 3: finish the job? Stay here, continue to help the brand,

1670
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 3: help these players, help the conference get bigger.

1671
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 4: I think he's always going to be questioned. I don't

1672
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 4: think there's any right way to do it. You're right,

1673
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 4: you're right, and Kelvin, I'll put it like this in Kelvin,

1674
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 4: I think for you and myself, we probably have even

1675
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 4: heard some of those rumblings. You're from Detroit, but you

1676
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 4: live in California, you work in California. So they say, well, Kelvin, man,

1677
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 4: you ain't come back to the d and put on

1678
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 4: for the city. Man, you're not doing Detroit rate like

1679
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 4: and you're raising a family in California, but you a

1680
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 4: Detroit co. I'm from Pasadena, I lived in the Valley.

1681
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 4: I live in Houston now, Okay. And there's a limit

1682
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 4: to the things you can do. And I think that

1683
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 4: that debate, those feelings will be there, But I think

1684
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 4: from an overall perspective, you're gonna have to look back

1685
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 4: and appreciate HBCU's what Dion did, And unfortunately I don't Kelvin,

1686
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. Forget me you're older than me. Is

1687
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 4: there any writer way to have done that? Because if

1688
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 4: he told people, hey, man, I'm gonna come for one

1689
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 4: year that I'm out, he probably doesn't get the commitments

1690
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 4: he would have gotten. And now that he leaves the

1691
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 4: way he left, it was like a shock. He was like,

1692
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 4: d we thought we're gonna have you forever. And it's like,

1693
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 4: maybe Dion would have state forever and I'll address this,

1694
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 4: and so may have feelings about it. Everybody's not on

1695
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 4: board with what you have to do to succeed back

1696
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 4: home or sometimes in the smaller marketplaces. So maybe there

1697
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 4: were things that Dion needed to do and I can't speak,

1698
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 4: I'm only assuming and the reason Dion had to go

1699
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 4: was because those things couldn't be accomplished. Kelvin in my

1700
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 4: wrong help me here?

1701
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 5: Well.

1702
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: I also think the criticisms, or the least the folks

1703
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 3: who were challenged by his decision, it is because it's like,

1704
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,440
Speaker 3: you went to go to Colorado.

1705
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: You didn't go to Florida State where you were. You're

1706
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:38,799
Speaker 2: in alum and it makes sense.

1707
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 3: Like, oh, wow, you're going back home to play in Florida,

1708
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 3: in Florida State, I should say, you know, or he's

1709
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 3: going to like, you can't turn down a Michigan job, right,

1710
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 3: you can't turn down USC or something like that. I

1711
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: think folks were also saying, Okay, you're leaving Jackson State.

1712
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 3: You're leaving in HBCU to go to Colorado. So it's

1713
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: kind of like, okay, so I think that was it.

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01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 3: But I saw that because we're talking draft the ay

1715
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 3: think I saw him criticizing the NFL. The NFL and listen,

1716
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 3: it is a difficult thing. They're saying, we got to

1717
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 3: drop the best players. You just heard Adam.

1718
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: Do you want the best players? You want the value?

1719
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: And it's still at the point where they're saying, hey,

1720
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 3: if you're playing at these HBCUs, I think a lot

1721
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 3: of people question, well, how talented are most of these

1722
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 3: guys playing here? And so therefore they maybe not getting

1723
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 3: those looks. But we'll see what happens in the future. Again,

1724
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 3: the NFL has created this combine now the last couple

1725
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 3: of seasons that's specifically for them and the those in

1726
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: the HBCUs, so a whole lot more to get to.

1727
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 3: We'll go back to the NBA a little bit more.

1728
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 3: Get you updated on what's been happening. Now.

1729
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: We got to look ahead a little bit too. You

1730
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: got Lakers Warriors.

1731
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 3: As Monte just said, Tuesday will be game one already, Ryan,

1732
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 3: I've already got a text message from people. Read I'll

1733
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 3: read that. I'll read that text message to you. I'll

1734
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 3: read it to you next when we come back. And

1735
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 3: it's Fox Sports on a Sunday, Kevin Washington, Ryan Hollins,

1736
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Sundays.

1737
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 2: That's right. I thought I told you that we won't stop.

1738
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, Kelvin Washington with you,

1739
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: my man, Ryan Hollins is with me as well. Having

1740
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 3: an excellent day today. Hopefully you are as well. I

1741
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Speaker 2: Ones the whole campaign of like like you know, your

1748
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: old wind campaign.

1749
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 3: Those are spectacular because I pretty much know I'm old Ryan,

1750
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 3: that's for sure, Like I mean all the stuff they say,

1751
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 3: like when you make a point, Hey, look we gotta

1752
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 3: remember where we park. That's your boy. When you're getting up,

1753
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 3: you know, instead of you gotta do all that when

1754
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 3: you standing up or sit out, that's your boy. When

1755
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 3: you talk to they say, hey, though you don't need

1756
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 3: another waiters name, you don't need I do that. I'm

1757
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: asking a waiter. I'm like, hey, my name is Kelvin.

1758
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm doing the whole nine, giving my name, getting the

1759
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 3: waiters name. I'm officially old at this point. Not to

1760
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 3: mention Ryan, you haven't seen me in quite some time.

1761
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 3: The level of gray in my beard is frightening.

1762
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 1: But Kelvin, you have a hairline. Hold on.

1763
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 2: Moncey's laughing way too hard.

1764
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,440
Speaker 1: Kelvin, you have a hairline.

1765
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: Still act and it's relatively easy. I can't lie.

1766
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear old.

1767
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm feeling cute my delete, you know, just saying,

1768
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 3: just saying. But I'll tell you what, No, I'm definitely

1769
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 3: feeling old. We only got a couple of minutes here

1770
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 3: before we go back to a quick break. But I

1771
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 3: want to throw out for those who kind of maybe

1772
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 3: been driving and working or obviously if you just simply

1773
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 3: saw the score, but don't really have the context.

1774
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: Of the game.

1775
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 3: The Warriors win Game seven, as Monty said, just been

1776
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 3: in the goal, Steph goes nuts and drops fifty on him.

1777
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 3: He went ahead and win a half century on him

1778
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 3: and gets the job done. You could tell that the

1779
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 3: Kings were overwhelmed. You could tell it's a lot for them, right.

1780
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 3: They had been a postseason sixteen years, I believe, and

1781
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they're there to Game seven against

1782
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 3: the raining champs, and the raining champs? What raining champs

1783
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 3: on them and remind of them that they know what

1784
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 3: they're doing. They're four time winners that with that core,

1785
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 3: so they're able to do that. Now we look forward

1786
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 3: to the Tuesday game against the Warriors, which I mean,

1787
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm sorry against the Lakers, and I will get there

1788
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 3: in a moment, but I want to read it.

1789
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 2: You text it.

1790
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've gotten or get the minute it happened.

1791
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here in the studio, we're doing our radio thing.

1792
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 3: I get a text immediately, Hey Kelvin, how are you

1793
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:24,919
Speaker 3: Lakers Wars?

1794
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: You have the hookup for tickets preferably Game three.

1795
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even know if the game was

1796
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: over again officially, and I already got that text message

1797
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 3: from folks you got the hookup, so I'm laughing.

1798
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: He does, by the way, he has the hookup.

1799
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 2: Hold up listen. I don't know if I have the

1800
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 2: hookup for exit.

1801
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: Listen.

1802
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 2: I need to hook myself up first. Okay.

1803
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 3: This is like you know what it's like, Manti is

1804
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 3: like when you're at the on the airplane when they

1805
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 3: say put your air mask on first, Sam before you

1806
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 3: help somebody else. So I got to put my my

1807
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 3: mask on first. Make sure I get to the game

1808
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 3: before I help somebody else, Okay, because I need to

1809
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 3: be at least one of the games in this series.

1810
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 3: We'll find out if it goes you know, four, if

1811
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 3: it goes seven, but I definitely need to get to

1812
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 3: one of these games.

1813
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:11,759
Speaker 2: This is gonna be amazing.

1814
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: Man.

1815
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 3: It's exactly what the NBA one David Stern is smiling

1816
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 3: in his grave right now. Adam Silver is cheesing.

1817
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 2: This is what you want.

1818
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 3: You have storylines Lebron going up against Steph again, right,

1819
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: and then you got that storyline. You've got storylines when

1820
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 3: it comes to the North Cal versus so Cal, the

1821
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 3: Bay to La like.

1822
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: You can, you can, you can already get I'm just

1823
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 2: saying this.

1824
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: You know, Lebron has four step ast four. Who will

1825
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 1: get more?

1826
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 3: I'm on fire right now. Who wants another story with Sam?

1827
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 3: You want another one? Give me another one?

1828
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: All right?

1829
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 2: E forty versus Snoop Dog.

1830
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 3: Too Short versus iqbes Ice Cube. I got more coming up,

1831
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Speaker 3: Fox Sporth Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. That is right, you

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01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 3: got Kelvin Washington, Ryan Hollins with you on this Sunday

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Speaker 2: Ryan again, we got an hour left. There's a whole

1840
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 2: lot to get you.

1841
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 3: When you're going back to what it looks like in

1842
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 3: the NBA playoffs right now, Sponse just says, Steph went, Steph.

1843
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: You got a great series coming up on Tuesday, Lakers Warriors.

1844
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 3: Everyone's looking forward to that. You got the Knicks who

1845
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: are back in the postseason. I gotta say this before

1846
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 3: we switch gears here. It is great to see the

1847
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: Knicks fans. They can be obnoxious at times, they can

1848
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 3: be this shout out to our guy Ben Lyons, both

1849
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 3: of our friends. We know Ben and all the Nick

1850
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 3: fans you may know. But it's great to see them

1851
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 3: and hear the crowd and kind of what it means

1852
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 3: to that city, that region, that area. Somebody said it

1853
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 3: great that most if you go around the city and

1854
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 3: city and they're there. Of course the fans are excited

1855
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,639
Speaker 3: about whatever the game may be. That like you kind

1856
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 3: of made go a couple be in a couple of

1857
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 3: corners and not hear much about it, right, Like okay, hey,

1858
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: you know, hey, whereas the Knicks from the moment the

1859
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 3: morning you go get your newspaper, I get him next?

1860
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 3: They said, hey, can you go to hop in a taxi?

1861
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 3: Let's go next. You go to get your lunch, let's

1862
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: go next. Like it's all day, the whole entire time.

1863
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 3: So I thought, that's let's go next. I don't know

1864
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 3: why everyone something like that. I don't know why it

1865
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 3: made the entire city sound like that. But that's kind

1866
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 3: of cool. So we'll talk a little more hoops in

1867
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,520
Speaker 3: a moment. I want to go back to a conversation

1868
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 3: though that we had a little bit Adam kaplan.

1869
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: We talked about Lamar Jackson and what he uh was

1870
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: able to do. And here's what's crazy.

1871
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 3: You've been in the pre you were in the pros,

1872
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 3: and you know this, and you even know it from

1873
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 3: just your post professional basketball career, right, trying to navigate

1874
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 3: this space, this media space, with or without agents, and

1875
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 3: how to do it. And the man negotiated a deal

1876
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 3: for himself, and obviously it made it complicated for the

1877
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 3: brass over there at the Ravens where you're used to

1878
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: dealing with agents, you're used to dealing with managers, are

1879
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 3: used to dealing with middleman. In this case, it was

1880
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 3: dealing with Lamar Jackson himself. But look, the fact of

1881
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 3: the matter is whether you liked the tactics, whether you

1882
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,600
Speaker 3: like how he did it. Some of this stuff is

1883
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 3: exactly what agents do, right. Agents leak information, agents say things,

1884
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 3: agents hold press conferences, agents put out tweets. They do

1885
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 3: whatever they need to do to get the deal done.

1886
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 3: And it was weird in that you had the player

1887
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 3: himself doing the tweets, right, doing the telling hey, I

1888
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 3: requested a trade. On March twenty seventh. He said that

1889
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: right as John Harbo's getting ready to speak at the

1890
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 3: conference there with coaches, He's like, he drops it right

1891
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 3: then and there. So he knew it would get a

1892
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 3: lot of attention. But the fact of the matter is

1893
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 3: he was able to get this deal done. They're saying

1894
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 3: that again. It's it's supposedly worth two hundred and sixty

1895
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 3: million dollars. He's the highest played player in the league

1896
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 3: at fifty two million dollars a year and including a

1897
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty five million dollars of that guaranteed.

1898
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 3: He wanted two thirty Reportedly, that's what he was looking

1899
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 3: for guaranteed, kind of being that Deshaun Watson category.

1900
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 2: But look, I said this.

1901
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 3: You know this from your parents telling you, wait, we're

1902
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 3: not about to double down a mistake or do it

1903
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,799
Speaker 3: double down on something. Still, somebody else did that was stupid,

1904
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 3: right If the Cleveland Browns, who by the way, are

1905
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns who haven't done a lot right when

1906
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 3: it comes to the quarterback position, if they choose to

1907
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 3: give somebody who's going through got a bunch of issues

1908
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 3: right now from the legal standpoint, who isn't necessarily great

1909
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: as far as you know, the prestige that comes with

1910
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 3: this person's name, and then not to mention, you know,

1911
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 3: hadn't played the football in quite some time. They want

1912
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 3: to give guaranteed money to somebody that the NFL has

1913
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 3: never done that, including Tom Brady, including Aaron Rodgers, including

1914
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, never.

1915
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 2: Money like that.

1916
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 3: Why do I have to double down on what the

1917
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns did if I'm the buff Baltimore Ravens. So

1918
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 3: that's I get where they're coming from. Look, we'll take

1919
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 3: care of you. We'll throw a bunch of money yourway.

1920
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 3: But I can't do dumb just because they did dumb

1921
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 3: and he stuck to his guns though I was able

1922
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 3: to get the money and get the deal done.

1923
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 2: And it feels right. I said this when we were

1924
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: at him. It just feels right.

1925
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 3: Maybe I set it off the air, but it just

1926
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Speaker 3: feels in that the Baltimore Ravens, the way they're constructed,

1927
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Speaker 3: the way they choose to operate, he fits what they do.

1928
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Speaker 3: And I gave them credit because they didn't take him

1929
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Speaker 3: when you know, five years ago, whatever it was, when

1930
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Speaker 3: he was coming.

1931
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Speaker 2: Into the league and say, hey, you have to play

1932
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 2: like this, you have to beat this.

1933
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Speaker 3: We're gonna get an offensive coordinator wh's gonna beat you

1934
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 3: and bend you and muld you into this.

1935
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Speaker 2: They were like, oh, what does he do great? What

1936
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 2: does he do well?

1937
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Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna build around that. We're gonna play around that.

1938
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 3: And it's been successful. They've had successive, got another postseason

1939
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 3: and a bunch with him. Obviously the next season. The

1940
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 3: next thing is to get an AFC championship team into

1941
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Speaker 3: a super Bowl and win one. But it just felt

1942
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 3: like they were supposed to get this done. It didn't

1943
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 3: look like they would for a moment, but it just

1944
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 3: feels right. And kudos to him for staying true to him,

1945
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 3: sticking to his guns. And I think for him it

1946
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 3: was beyond just simply me Lamar Jackson. I think it

1947
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 3: was saying, hey, players, we're playing a sports as brutal,

1948
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 3: We're playing a sport that is the biggest sport in

1949
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 3: America by far. Let's get as much as we can too.

1950
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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to set the precedent for other quarterbacks,

1951
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 3: for folks in maybe even other positions, to get as

1952
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Speaker 3: much as you can guaranteed, and I'm willing to sack,

1953
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Speaker 3: you know, sacrifice for it and put myself out there

1954
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Speaker 3: and maybe even have to be traded to do so.

1955
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Speaker 1: It's not for everybody, Kelvin.

1956
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Speaker 4: So so, for instance, Ryan Hollins needed an agent because

1957
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 4: I was in a situation where I could not be

1958
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 4: bad cop.

1959
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Speaker 1: When you do your own negotiations.

1960
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Speaker 4: You have to be good cop and bad cop right

1961
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Speaker 4: on this side. In broadcasting, I learned that the hard way.

1962
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 4: I fell into a situation where you know, I'm obviously

1963
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Speaker 4: a talent and I was in a negotiation I won't

1964
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 4: say we're in, and I tried to be a good

1965
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 4: cop bad cop, and I was hurt in my career

1966
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:00,839
Speaker 4: because of it. But when you are Lebron James Tamar Jackson,

1967
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 4: your money is penciled in. And he knew one thing, Hey,

1968
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 4: y'all can't not have me. You guys cannot afford to

1969
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 4: go away from me. You can't afford to roll the dice,

1970
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 4: go back into the draft and try to make another

1971
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson. And because of that, guess what, he was

1972
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 4: able to do his own deal. And of course I'm

1973
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 4: sure he had an attorney or legal representative. Look over

1974
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 4: it and see that you know, the deal was okay.

1975
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 4: There is no trick or read or nothing in there.

1976
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 4: But ultimately, at the end of the day, his deal

1977
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 4: was gonna be his deal. What's for Lamar Jackson is

1978
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 4: not gonna be for everybody. So he's saying for these

1979
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 4: attorney fees because I can look at I can look

1980
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Speaker 4: at another player in my position at a comp and say,

1981
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 4: hey man, I'm gonna make more than this guy.

1982
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get paid more than he's going to get paid.

1983
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 4: Now you go in and say, is someone just reading

1984
01:26:55,040 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 4: over the contract worth eight point seven million dollars or is.

1985
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 1: It worth ten thousand dollars?

1986
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Speaker 2: Right?

1987
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Speaker 4: Even twenty or thirty fifty, You could pay someone fifty

1988
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 4: thousand dollars in Calvin and Myron, you would be saving

1989
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Speaker 4: the rest of the money.

1990
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Speaker 3: Right, So we've heard that there's a whole percentages and

1991
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 3: point things usually which you start like, all right for

1992
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 3: those listening. Usually agents get ten percent, but then once

1993
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: you start getting the pros, it gets dial usually around

1994
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 3: three percent. Is you know, is worth three point three

1995
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 3: and a half percent is kind of where it is

1996
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 3: with these agents. But you can also negotiate to your

1997
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 3: point of points. You know, hey, instead of three percent,

1998
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you one percent, or I'm just gonna

1999
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 3: give you a flat feed, give you this million dollars

2000
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 3: if you get me this one hundred and eighty three guarantee,

2001
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 3: whatever it may be.

2002
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 2: So you're right, he could find ways to get a

2003
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 2: deal done.

2004
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Speaker 3: Ultimately, though you just mentioned why agents are beneficial is

2005
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 3: that they can get in there do the ugly work.

2006
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: They don't mind being the bad guys.

2007
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 3: The public generally don't know them, so if they put

2008
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 3: out a tweet pt other, it's like, who's that agent?

2009
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't care whatever.

2010
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 3: All I know is I'm a fan of X team.

2011
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,560
Speaker 3: Can we get this deal done? So that's one of

2012
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 3: the benefits. And also they can kind of navigate your

2013
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 3: career and that you know it's all right.

2014
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Speaker 1: Hey.

2015
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Speaker 3: Also, I'm gonna get you this endorsement. I kind of

2016
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 3: got this idea for how you should we present you,

2017
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 3: build you up, build the brand. So there's a benefits

2018
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 3: when it comes to that. But Lamar just was you know, listen,

2019
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 3: he seems to be his own kind of guy, beats

2020
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 3: the goo, goes to the beat of his own drum,

2021
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 3: and he's stuck to it, and he was able to

2022
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 3: get the done and get the deal done. And when

2023
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 3: you look at it, if you're the Ravens, you're like,

2024
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 3: look all right, yeah, we can make some trades, we

2025
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 3: can do some other things. What the fact of the

2026
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 3: matter is if you're trying to compete and get to

2027
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 3: where you guys are used to being. Which credit this

2028
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 3: organization that they've been a solid one for the last

2029
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: twenty plus years, is that we got to have a

2030
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,000
Speaker 3: quarterback because we're about to see you know, Joe Burrow

2031
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 3: for the next ten years, right, Josh Allen, Pat Mahomes,

2032
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 3: you know Herbert. You got all these guys that look

2033
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,839
Speaker 3: really good that they can be some really good, talented

2034
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 3: young quarterbacks. And when they and we can even talk

2035
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 3: about a little bit later, what the AFC South was

2036
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 3: able to do in the draft and all of a

2037
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 3: sudden they look like an up and coming conference. Now

2038
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 3: I went from the laughing stock of the NFL and

2039
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: now like, oh, then AFC South might be something for

2040
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,560
Speaker 3: the next few years with these young quarterbacks.

2041
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: But you need a quarterback. We know that more than ever.

2042
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 3: And it just feel like they could not not get

2043
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and a lot of folks were saying, you know,

2044
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 3: because he requested that trade.

2045
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I'm in LA.

2046
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 3: You're from LA. People forget Kobe. Kobe Bryant requested a trade.

2047
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 3: Kobe Bryant was going to Detroit. By his own agents words,

2048
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 3: Rob Lincoln, if Vanessa Bryant his wife doesn't say, fellas

2049
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 3: Win going to Detroit, I can't grow up in LA.

2050
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 3: Living in LA and then all of a sudden living Detroit.

2051
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,560
Speaker 3: Rob Alnca said that if you watch The Lakers, the

2052
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 3: documentary on them, Rob Alnka said, we had a deal

2053
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 3: done to go to Detroit because Kobe requested the trade.

2054
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 3: He was over, he was ready to go. Vanessa Bryant said,

2055
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 3: Win't going to Detroit. So my point is for those

2056
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 3: who were saying, man, he's not really because Lamar just

2057
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 3: posted a video not too long ago saying, hey, basically,

2058
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 3: it was hard.

2059
01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 2: It was nail Biden. It was tough, but we got

2060
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 2: the deal done.

2061
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 3: And you know, he put up a football that had

2062
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 3: the Ravens logoing and he said, all I know is

2063
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 3: for the next five years is let's go flock or whatever.

2064
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 3: He said, you know, we're flocking or whatever. But the

2065
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 3: point is people will get over that. People like, oh, well,

2066
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 3: he kidding. Even he requests the trade, he doesn't want

2067
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 3: to be able to be a raven. No, I gotta

2068
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 3: do what's best for me. I gotta do what's best

2069
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 3: to get the deal done that I want. And again,

2070
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 3: folks request the trades all the time I live in LA.

2071
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 3: Let me tell you who folks aren't wavering their love,

2072
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 3: dying love about, and that's Kobe Bryant. They've gotten over

2073
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 3: the trade request, the upside, downs and good, the bad.

2074
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 3: He brought him, passionate, he brought him great moments, the

2075
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 3: ups and downs. He brought him championships and the fans

2076
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 3: love him. And if Lamar Jackson does that as he

2077
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 3: promised on his draft day when he was overlooked and

2078
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 3: went last in that draft, if he gets the deal done,

2079
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 3: continues to get the postseason, continues to build off momentum

2080
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 3: like that, and eventually gets them a ring they'll never forget.

2081
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,679
Speaker 3: They will forget, or at least it will be part

2082
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 3: of the love story they had with him.

2083
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 2: When he requested that trade.

2084
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,040
Speaker 1: He knew they couldn't afford to let him go. And

2085
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: as flawed as you.

2086
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 4: Say, Lamar Jackson may be, he's still one of the

2087
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 4: best quarterbacks that you have in the game.

2088
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 3: And I'm not one of those Lamar Jackson's that flawed.

2089
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 3: It ain't always the prettiest, but as it getting the

2090
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 3: job done, that's what I think.

2091
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 4: You know, you're gonna get to the playoffs. And he's

2092
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 4: in a situation where you say, hey, man, build around Lamar.

2093
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: I can.

2094
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what, you know passes up to twenty

2095
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 4: yards and you know we're gonna have to, you know,

2096
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 4: rush you twenty times a game. Like that's just gonna

2097
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 4: be what it's gonna be. And it's better to have

2098
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 4: Lamar than to not have Lamar. I mean, listen, man,

2099
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,560
Speaker 4: at the quarterback position, if you don't have it sufficiently,

2100
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 4: I mean you you struggle in the NFL. This is

2101
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 4: pulling Steph Curry. This is the equivalent. This is pulling

2102
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 4: Steph Curry off the Warriors. This is pulling Lebron James

2103
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 4: off the Lakers. Okay, this is this is all of that.

2104
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 4: This is pulling Hey Booker and kd off of the

2105
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 4: Sun's Like you just can't do it, man, So Hey,

2106
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 4: hats off to Lamar for knowing his value and he

2107
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 4: understood it. And the organization was in a situation where

2108
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 4: Kelvin they had to keep him, they had to hold

2109
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,960
Speaker 4: on to him, and I think now you can build

2110
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 4: around him. Now, Kelvin, let me ask you this, he

2111
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 4: just got paid. Do you expect Lamar to be the

2112
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 4: Lamar that we know that at tucks and runs? Or

2113
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 4: do you think he's gonna change his game a little

2114
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 4: bit with the new money and you know, try to

2115
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 4: be more of a passer.

2116
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 3: Do you think he can be a passer? I think

2117
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 3: he has been a pastor. I think it's only gonna improve.

2118
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: Just like you in the jump shot, it kept getting

2119
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 3: better and better. I think, you know, as he continues

2120
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 3: to get some weapons. He's got OBJ there, so now

2121
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you got another weapon around. And

2122
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 3: by the way, I think he can also look at

2123
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 3: the organization and say, can we start to get some

2124
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 3: more weapons. I'm not saying you have to have you know,

2125
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 3: shucking around and have you know, the greatest wide receivers.

2126
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 3: But he's been doing nothing well pretty much me and

2127
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 3: you out there at wide receiver, and he's been getting

2128
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 3: the job done.

2129
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 2: So I expect him to only improve.

2130
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 3: He stay always safe, glowing things about his preparation him

2131
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 3: in the game, so I expect to see nothing of

2132
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 3: improvement on him when it comes to that. Jimmy Buckets

2133
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 3: has been getting down New York is making noise in

2134
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 3: the postseason as well. We got some more NBA action

2135
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 3: to get to with somebody who played in the league.

2136
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 3: That is Ryan Hollands. I'm kelvin Washington on Fox Sports

2137
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 3: Sundays and don't forget we are gaining live from the

2138
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Speaker 3: tie rack dot com studios and we'll be right back

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Speaker 1: Yo.

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Speaker 3: I haven't Ryan, I haven't asked you, man, cause I

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Speaker 3: was just talking about the fact that I have, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, three kids in Three kids in the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenties is like having six in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: What are you at?

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Speaker 1: Are you on what are you?

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Speaker 2: Are you a number eleven?

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Speaker 1: Now? I mean no, no, no, no, no, no, you

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Speaker 1: almost caught me. I'm at four and I'm chilling.

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Speaker 2: Brother, So you got this just making sure? Are you

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Speaker 2: at four?

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Speaker 3: Now? I mean I are you been at four? I

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Speaker 3: me phrase, I know you've been at four. I just

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Speaker 3: was saying, if fair that you've been at four. But

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Speaker 3: I'm saying I meant to say, are you stopping it for?

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Speaker 3: Like I say, you're sure, you're sure you're done?

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Speaker 1: I am done, and I'm sure you're done too, brother, Big.

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Speaker 2: Done, Big, I mean I'm done. I'm like the Kings

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I'm done.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm fired, and I'm the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 1: Kelvin.

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Speaker 4: We are very similar in the sense that you're that

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Speaker 4: part of the family that everybody looks at and goes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Kate, wait for you want to have more kids?

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Speaker 3: Just going like, no, people have gotten carried away with this,

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Speaker 3: like everybody because I have three girls servman and says

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Speaker 3: are you gonna Are you going for the boy? It's

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Speaker 3: like no, okay, and if I if I go for

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Speaker 3: it the boy and I get into the girl you're

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Speaker 3: gonna take care of it like you can't keep badding

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Speaker 3: children on your boy, you know, I mean, howny kids

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Speaker 3: you want me to have? This is and we don't

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Speaker 3: have a whole gang of family living around and so

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Speaker 3: it's a lot, man. So shout out to all the

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Speaker 3: folks who maybe you know, pregnant right now, getting ready

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Speaker 3: to expect your first or what have you.

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Speaker 2: You know, congrating, but get well, get ready, get ready.

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Speaker 2: It's a whole lot. I want.

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Speaker 3: I want to speaking a whole lot, man. I'm going

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Speaker 3: back to the NBA Great Playoffs. So far, we got

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Speaker 3: some great performances. We got a couple of really good

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Speaker 3: series of the Lakers and Grizzlies was a great one.

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Speaker 3: You got, of course the Phoenix. That the Phoenix, but

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Speaker 3: you have the Kings and the Warriors was a great

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Speaker 3: one as well. So we've had a few that were

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Speaker 3: really good. And now all of a sudden we're gonna

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Speaker 3: get some good ones too again Warriors Lakers Tuesday Game one.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna be fantastic. But I want to go back

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Speaker 3: a little bit to what Jimmy Butler's been able to do. Man,

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler has been balling out. Mantzi told you earlier

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01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 3: he did rolling ankle, so something to be concerned with.

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Speaker 3: He spoke after the game, said he, you know, give

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Speaker 3: a little tight and he said he felt like he

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Speaker 3: just rolled it pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how that all plays out. But what he's

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Speaker 2: been able to do.

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Speaker 3: Folks were having conversations about how great was that fifty

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Speaker 3: six per format, sixty six point performance?

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Speaker 1: Was that?

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Speaker 3: You know, was that Lebron game six versus Celtics level?

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Speaker 3: You know, is it MJ versus the Celtics sixty three piece.

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01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 2: On their head?

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're trying to figure out how great that was,

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01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 3: and then you're like, oh, well, it was great to see.

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Speaker 3: But then he doubles it up with a forty two

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Speaker 3: point the next game performance. I mean, and first of all,

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Speaker 3: just a shot to even tie the game. Let's go there,

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01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 3: you know, the yeah, a little push off, but he

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01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 3: gets a shot to go in and go in overtime

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01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 3: to get to win the Miami Heat over the Bucks.

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01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler has been spectacular and he's one of those

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01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 3: guys again when my daughters get older, your children are older,

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01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 3: and folks can oh tell me, you know, I remember Lebron.

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01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 3: I remember Steph, I remember Giannis, I remember all these people.

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01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 3: He'll be so far down the list of people we name.

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01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: He's not you know that guy. He doesn't have big deals.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have the beard like a James Harden, or

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01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 3: he doesn't have the brow like Anthony David, so, you know,

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01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 3: meaning identifiable things he doesn't have. You know, Draymond Green's

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01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,679
Speaker 3: gonna always be in our face because he as a podcast,

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01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 3: he's always on TV. He's running his mouth, so like you,

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01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,759
Speaker 3: he'll be around and relevant in some sense some former fashion.

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01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 3: But Jimmy Butler at the d of the day, it's like,

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01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's many guys if I said,

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01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 3: hey man, this is a must win situation that I'm taking.

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Speaker 1: Over him mm hmm. Kelevin, I completely agree.

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01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 4: He makes our jobs hard, right because as an analyst saying, well,

2237
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 4: who's gonna win the game? Who's this, this and this,

2238
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 4: and then you're like, oh man, the number one seed

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01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 4: and Jimmy Butler's like, so he makes it so hard

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Speaker 4: to forecast what's actually gonna happen, and might remind folks

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01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 4: I said it earlier in the show.

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Speaker 2: They lost the first playing game.

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Speaker 1: They did.

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Speaker 2: They did dog.

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Speaker 4: The team that loses the first playing game is not

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01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 4: supposed to go and knock off the number one seed.

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Speaker 1: But that's Jimmy Butler in a nutshell because everybody's looking

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01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:01,200
Speaker 1: at like what's wrong with you know? Uh with the

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01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: team in Miami is not that good and they're.

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Speaker 3: Just they're down Hero, they're down on Ladipo, They're down

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Speaker 3: all these guys and it just it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

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01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,759
Speaker 3: Uh. And they're able to get to win today against

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01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 3: the Knicks. Uh that again, they're just playing well. And

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Speaker 3: I've been I've been skeptical, maybe not skeptical as much

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Speaker 3: as people put bam out of Bayo. A little further

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Speaker 3: than that, I was like, all right, settled down, he's

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Speaker 3: you're gonna appreciate this. Bam Otebayo is horse Grant with

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Speaker 3: the bulls. He's horse Grant. Okay, here you go. You're

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Speaker 3: gonna want to tell me this, butter, is he really?

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Speaker 3: Is he really better than horse Grant?

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01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll keep trying to tell me this. And I've

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01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 3: seen that boy who Deny Game is amazing. He's who

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01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 3: here's who dany Game is a man. That boy disappears

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01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 3: more than anybody where did Bam go.

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Speaker 1: So, so I'm gonna give you this.

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Speaker 3: Better give me some because I'm moodro got on a plane,

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01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 3: he came to Houston. If you're trying to tell y'all

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Speaker 3: keep selling me on how great this guy is.

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Speaker 4: Well, I heard you say this with Steph earlier, and

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Speaker 4: you're saying the same thing with bam Adebayo. I tell

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Speaker 4: you this as a former player, as a guy who

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Speaker 4: had the game plan for these guys. What you don't

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01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 4: see is how you have to you literally twist and

2276
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 4: turn your defenses to guard Steph Curry. You're picking him

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01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:19,759
Speaker 4: up ninety four feet away from the basket. You're trapping

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01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,560
Speaker 4: your face. You're doing those things to keep saying so,

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01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 4: even though Steph may not get a bucket, the reason

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01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 4: that the other guys on the floor or on the

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01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:30,680
Speaker 4: team scored is because Steph is so dynamic at what

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01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 4: he does now in terms of bam out of Bio,

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01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 4: because you're like, that's who I asked about Bam out

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01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 4: of Bio. Defensively, he can switch everything, he can roll

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01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 4: to the rim. He's a big time rebounder. And yes,

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Speaker 4: sometimes what happens is those numbers aren't there, and we

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01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 4: can't fall in love with I think because the offensive

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01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 4: numbers missing there to know what you can do defensively.

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Speaker 4: So okay, when you're going at sabonus per se. What

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01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 4: happened was what they gave up a lot of rebounds

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01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 4: in the paint today, right Golden State attacked those boards

2292
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 4: they got in the paint. You don't give that up

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01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 4: with Bam out of Bio in there, or you can.

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01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 4: You know you can't switch, so which means you know

2295
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 4: you can't just switch bonus on the Curry. So now

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01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 4: Curry's halving a field day, Bam out of Bio can

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01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 4: switch with anybody, and twice on a Sunday.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I feel like you feel like you're

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Speaker 3: disrespecting Horace Grant Hire. That was a semi compliment. Horas

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Speaker 3: Grant was playing with Michael Jordan Pippen, so it wasn't

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Speaker 3: like he was asked to do a whole bunch. But listen,

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Speaker 3: Bad out of Bayu is a he can play my

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Speaker 3: team any day. I guess what I'm saying is people

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Speaker 3: start to make it like man, I remember the season

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01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 3: or two ago they were starting to put him way

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01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 3: too high in the Eastern Conference. Oh man, he might

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Speaker 3: be the one, you know, the third fourth, he might

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01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 3: be the best big man. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey, okay,

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01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,560
Speaker 3: man not better than B. But folks were starting to

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01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 3: give him a little too much love. I'm like, he's

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01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 3: a fine player, he can play my team, but let's

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Speaker 3: settle down with this like as if he's about to

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Speaker 3: be this perennial All Star.

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Speaker 2: But he is he Listen there, just what I was

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Speaker 2: about to move on and concede.

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Speaker 4: You gotta understand what that brother does on the court,

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Speaker 4: and it's not always in numbers. And I think if

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Speaker 4: you look at the Miami Heat, that's why their team

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Speaker 4: as a whole is very overlooked. And then you look

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Speaker 4: at it and you say they play winning back Sorry,

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Speaker 4: winning basketball, don't show up in a sad I.

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Speaker 2: Think, no, that's completely listen, listen coming.

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Speaker 1: That's why we can't quantify what goes on dog, No,

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Speaker 1: we can't.

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Speaker 3: We can quantify it as saying he is a fine player,

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Speaker 3: he can play my team, but settle down with like

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Speaker 3: making it as if he is just a top you

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Speaker 3: know eight guy in the East.

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Speaker 2: People act like that.

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Speaker 3: Another team that's similar that I want to get to

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01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 3: when we come back here, before we get what's trending

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Speaker 3: is the fact that Denver Nuggets have been the number

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01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 3: one seed in the West, and yet nobody talks about them.

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Speaker 3: We talked Kings, Warriors, Lakers, Phoenix, Suns, and Denver nother. Hello,

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Speaker 3: we've been a number one seed here this whole time.

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Speaker 3: Did you want to mention thats? So we got to

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Speaker 3: talk about what the Denver Nuggets been able to do,

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01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 3: not only just this game won in their series against

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Speaker 3: the Suns, but also what they've been able to do

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Speaker 3: as well throughout the season. And really, I want you

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Speaker 3: down for us.

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01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 6: Did I say right, it's nicely done? Nicely done? I

2351
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 6: am guilty of being that person that has not talked

2352
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 6: about the Denver Nuggets the way I'm guilty. We afors that,

2353
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 6: And I kind of agree with you about Bam out

2354
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 6: of BYO he's good, that's it's something he's not good.

2355
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 6: I think that Jimmy Butler has been on a team

2356
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 6: that he is the sole superstar carrying his team. He's

2357
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 6: got stars around him, but he does not have another

2358
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 6: super We.

2359
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 3: Got to settle down with this term star by the way.

2360
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 3: But I mean, I just think you know what you're

2361
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 3: doing to me. You're doing to me what everybody's doing

2362
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 3: in Hollywood. They basically are selling the Walk of Fame. Now, hey,

2363
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 3: you got ten thousand, you can be, you can have

2364
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 3: a They're giving those things away. Somebody pulled up a

2365
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 3: list of the last twenty people who've gotten a star

2366
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 3: in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and it's got to

2367
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 3: really like somebody's sitting next to Denzel You're gonna be wait,

2368
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 3: that person sitting next to the on Look, that's what

2369
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 3: you're doing right now talking about stars.

2370
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 6: Disagree because I think the skill level in the NBA

2371
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 6: has just gone up over the years. You can't not

2372
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 6: say he's I hear what you're saying.

2373
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 2: I just think that skill level whatever's going really good player?

2374
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 2: Why there be a star?

2375
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 6: Okay, sure, for sure, I do, but I disagree. I

2376
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 6: think there are stars, and now I think they're superstars.

2377
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 6: Back then that wasn't the case. Fine, I'll give it

2378
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 6: to you. Good player, Jimmy Butler has been surrounded by

2379
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:38,759
Speaker 6: good players.

2380
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 3: You know what we're gonna do when you get done

2381
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 3: with this, We're gonna come back and I'm gonna start

2382
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 3: rolling off players and you and Ryan can tell me

2383
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 3: if they're a star or superstar, because I think y'all

2384
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 3: thrown around star.

2385
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 6: I just think the skill level has gone over the years.

2386
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 3: Are no I said, even star. I'm not even talking

2387
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 3: let alone super. Y'all throw around the word stars too

2388
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 3: easily too.

2389
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,640
Speaker 1: You just disrespectful, dog. I think so.

2390
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 6: They're soorry.

2391
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 2: Y'are perfectly proving my point.

2392
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 1: You are.

2393
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 2: Participation trophies cut, You're lucky.

2394
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 6: I'm on the other side of this loss step.

2395
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 1: Participation, get the stat That's it.

2396
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,720
Speaker 6: I'm over this. I don't care anymore. Let's let's talk

2397
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 6: about the NBA today. Though you guys were mentioning the

2398
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 6: heat they took game one from the Knicks. That is right,

2399
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 6: One o eight to one oh one was the final score.

2400
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 6: Jimmy Butler did injure his right ankle, but he stayed

2401
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:28,679
Speaker 6: in the game because he's a badass.

2402
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 1: Now.

2403
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,559
Speaker 6: Game two is on Tuesday between the Heat and the Knicks.

2404
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 6: Game one between now the Warriors and the Lakers is

2405
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 6: on Tuesday because the Warriors eliminated the Kings from the playoffs.

2406
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 6: One twenty to one hundred was the final score. Chef

2407
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 6: Curry was cooking and ended with fifty points, eight rebounds,

2408
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 6: and six assists. Now let's move on to the ice

2409
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 6: because there is a game seven going on and this

2410
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,600
Speaker 6: one is intense. The Panthers are playing the Bruins. The

2411
01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 6: Bruins won more than twenty games then the Panthers did

2412
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 6: this season. The Bruins are expected to win. They're the

2413
01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 6: favorite team and right now they're in a game seven,

2414
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 6: losing after the first period to the Panthers one zero.

2415
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 6: There's another game seven after this on the ice between

2416
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 6: the Kraken and the Avalanche that is set for nine

2417
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 6: thirty pm Eastern time. One game going on in Major

2418
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 6: League Baseball. They've all finished one game going on and

2419
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 6: it's the Astros that are beating the Phillies one zero

2420
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 6: top of the second inning, but today victories for the Orioles,

2421
01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 6: the Red Sox, the Marlins. The Mariners beat the Blue

2422
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 6: Jays ten to eight and ten innings. Outfielder Taylor Trammel

2423
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 6: a grand slam in his first at fat of the season,

2424
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 6: and they also snapped the Blue Jay six game winning streak.

2425
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 6: The Angels shut out the Birds three zero. Sho Heo

2426
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 6: Tani hit a four hundred and thirteen foot homer or

2427
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 6: home run, his seventh home run of the season. Also

2428
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 6: victories for the Twins the White Sox, who snapped their

2429
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 6: ten game losing streak. The Rangers dominated the Yankees fifty

2430
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 6: to two, Josh Young a grand slam in the first inning.

2431
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 6: The Rockies handled the Diamondbacks twelve to four, The A's

2432
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 6: beat the Reds five to four, and the Dodgers took

2433
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 6: down the Cardinals in LA six to three. It's been fun, guys,

2434
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 6: back to you, which you.

2435
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 2: Meaning has been fun. You bought to get right back Gray.

2436
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 3: We can go ahead, bring the music down, and I'm

2437
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 3: about to keep you all right because y'all getting carried

2438
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 3: away with this star.

2439
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 6: So you're not giving credit where credit.

2440
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 2: Is Duet.

2441
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 1: Had a fifty.

2442
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 3: Why is Steph Curry? Steph Curry is a super nova?

2443
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:18,600
Speaker 3: That's not even debatable. I'm talking to you. Okay, we

2444
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 3: go home to the Steph conversation is a separate conversation,

2445
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:22,639
Speaker 3: all right, we'll get to that in just a moment.

2446
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 3: Ryan Hollinds, Kevin Washington with you. Monci's still here, because

2447
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 3: we need to get to this ridiculousness that's going on

2448
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 3: where you guys are just heading out. Start you get

2449
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 3: it started. You get a start, you get it started.

2450
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 3: Everybody get to Starr. Let me explain to you there

2451
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 3: are levels to to your point. Earlier, Ryan, I used

2452
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 3: to watch you or listen to you, and you were

2453
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 3: hard on Giannis because you're saying everybody's keep saying he's

2454
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:42,600
Speaker 3: the best. But you would say, like, I don't know

2455
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 3: if I can go to him at crunch time. I

2456
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 3: don't know if he's making free throws. I don't know

2457
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 3: if he can make that right decision. And I felt

2458
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 3: what you were saying, which is why it was one

2459
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 3: of those things. Still Lebron at that time two three

2460
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:52,799
Speaker 3: years ago you could say it was the best because

2461
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 3: he can get it done in a multitude of ways,

2462
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 3: and you felt comfortable with him having the ball in

2463
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 3: the Again, I totally got what you were saying. So

2464
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 3: my point was, at that point, Giannis was a star

2465
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,960
Speaker 3: in the NBA, maybe even a superstar. But you guys,

2466
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 3: there has to be a distinction between star, superstar and

2467
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 3: then somebody can just be a really good player.

2468
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 2: Bam Outabaio is a really good player. Bad Odebaio is

2469
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 2: not a star.

2470
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 6: I disagree. I think he's a star, not a superstar.

2471
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 6: Tyler Hero is a good player. And I'm going on

2472
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 6: one team, Miami Heat. We got a superstar, star and good.

2473
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna do that, all right, So I'm gonna

2474
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 3: rattle off some players because I need to understand maybe

2475
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, which is, you know, it's possible, not today.

2476
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:37,599
Speaker 2: But that's all right.

2477
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 3: YouTube crazy, you two crazies. Tell me, all right, let's

2478
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 3: start a team, just throw a team. Let's uh okay,

2479
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 3: great example, Andrew Wiggins, perfect example, really good player, star

2480
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 3: or superstar.

2481
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:54,679
Speaker 6: Really good player.

2482
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 1: Ryan, He's a really good player.

2483
01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 2: So y'all tell me, Bam out of Bayo is that

2484
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 2: much better than Andrew Wiggins?

2485
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2486
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 6: I think so.

2487
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, Klay Thompson star Yeah, okay, wait

2488
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 3: what star or superstar? Clay is a megastar, bro See

2489
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 3: that's what I'm talking about. Clay is not a superstar.

2490
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:23,919
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson is a star, superstar, shuper Superstar is Denzel Washington,

2491
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 3: Tom Hanks, Leonardo those are you? It is superstar is Drake,

2492
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 3: It is Kendrick Lamar, it is Taylor Swift.

2493
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a superstar.

2494
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2495
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 6: I think Thoms star seasons, but it didn't.

2496
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 2: I don't even agree with that. I think he's at superstar.

2497
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 6: Kay, he's a star, but he's not.

2498
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 2: I agree.

2499
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, Ryan, Okay, so listen, you can't no' not

2500
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 3: but no, honestly, I think I actually think you are

2501
01:48:56,880 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 3: bugging because it has to be there are distinct right,

2502
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 3: has to be a superstar. Should be reserved for Steph Curry,

2503
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 3: should be reserved for EMBIID, should be reserved for obviously Lebron.

2504
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 3: It should be reserved for those types of players. Gi honest, now,

2505
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,640
Speaker 3: it should not be reserved for guys who were star like.

2506
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 3: You can't be the second maybe third best player in

2507
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 3: your team and he be a superstar. Make it makes sense,

2508
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 3: bro Tito Jackson wasn't a superstar. Michael Jackson was a superstar, Okay,

2509
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 3: justin like it was a star team though.

2510
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 4: You know that team win a championship last year, right? Yeah,

2511
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 4: So who's the second best player on the Warriors?

2512
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 2: Okay, you want to go buy championships?

2513
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:36,320
Speaker 3: Right?

2514
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no no no no, slow down, right,

2515
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:40,759
Speaker 1: you need to go ahead.

2516
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 2: Who's the second.

2517
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 1: Who's gotten all these championships? Is not a superstar?

2518
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 2: Correct?

2519
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: And so they had multiple champs At no point in

2520
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,759
Speaker 1: his career was he He's not a superstar.

2521
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 2: I'd argue.

2522
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 3: You really proved my point because we talked about Kevin

2523
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 3: Durant joining that team that knocked him down. Not even further,

2524
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 3: Draymond Green is the second most important player on that team.

2525
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 2: I thought it was always Splash brothers.

2526
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: It was Clay and stuff that was the little thing.

2527
01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they had a great season, a couple of

2528
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 6: seasons together, but then Thompson got hurt and never came

2529
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 6: back the same.

2530
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 2: Bruh.

2531
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 3: Maybe y'all don't understand what a superstar in any in

2532
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:26,480
Speaker 3: any realm is entertainment, sport, superstars, box office is superstar

2533
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 3: is singular like that person step is box office, that's Superstar.

2534
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm not debating Steph, I'm not debating.

2535
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 1: Playf So Okay, Clay's box office, Clay's box. Clay's back

2536
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 1: now now since he's been hurt, he had been the

2537
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: same I.

2538
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 3: Said that box, I'll say ever, I would argue Devin

2539
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 3: Booker may have just stepped into superstar, not just star.

2540
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:50,599
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2541
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 6: I hate to admit it. I'm not a Booker fan,

2542
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 6: but yeah, like.

2543
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 2: This he might.

2544
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 3: Now he may now be seping stepping into superstar. Superstar

2545
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 3: is supposed to be reserves. The reason why the NFL

2546
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 3: gets the Hall of Fame right, for the most part,

2547
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 3: in comparison to other leagues. Hall of Fame is because

2548
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 3: it's supposed to be who oh yeah, okay, NBA because

2549
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 3: it's the basketball fame. They're just throwing them out now

2550
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 3: anywhere you get all you can. Hall of Fame is

2551
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 3: supposed to be. Un Like if I said it says

2552
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 3: stick to the NBA. If I say Larry Bird, everyone

2553
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 3: goes yes, Dug Michael Jordan, Yes, Dug Kobe Bryant, Yes,

2554
01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 3: the Tim Dunk Now ain't starting to do like Vince

2555
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:28,639
Speaker 3: Cat or not Vince.

2556
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 2: But you know, a certain players just starting.

2557
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 1: To be like we just had.

2558
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 4: So Klay Thompson, who's hit big shot after big shot

2559
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 4: absolutely literally gone off in one series, absolutely the team.

2560
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 1: You're saying, he's not a star.

2561
01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 2: You see how he tried to do it.

2562
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know he's a stop.

2563
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let me let me let me that we

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01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:54,759
Speaker 3: got to break here because that's exactly how rumors get started.

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01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 1: I got for you, I got to know them for

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01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 1: you when we come back, when we come.

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01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 3: Back, because yeah, this is exactly how they take the clip.

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01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 3: Kelvin Washington says, Klay Thompson's not even a star, And

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01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 3: that's not what I said.

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01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 2: That is not what I said at all.

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01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 1: That's exactly what Jesus, That's not what.

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01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 2: I said at all.

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01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 3: All right, So when we come back, we'll also have

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01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 3: the progressive play of the day looking forward to that

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01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:15,639
Speaker 3: might be the fact that you think everybody's a star.

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01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 2: You're at Oprah win forgiving it. You're a star. He's

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01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 2: a star for you.

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01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 3: A whole lot more before Ryan and I call it

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01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 3: a show here at Fox Sports Sunday, do.

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Speaker 2: I oh you read I're good?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sundays Boom ray.

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Speaker 3: Mind gets here and bounce back to Curry, takes her

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Speaker 3: three and heads at with bum buntzers sounding are you

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Speaker 3: kidding me?

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Speaker 1: There? You have it.

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Speaker 3: with you on this Fox Sports Sunday, getting ready to

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Speaker 3: wrap things up here where he and Mont's have lost

2595
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 3: their minds. Oh shoot, did I say that aloud? I

2596
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 3: didn't even know that I said that right there? Uh no,

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01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 3: you you Manzi. Actually she ended up joining me in this,

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01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:11,599
Speaker 3: in this conversation. Uh, and and siding with me. Kateub

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01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 3: live by the way on social media, Uh, the Ryan

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01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 3: Hollins as well, and Manci, what is yours?

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01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 2: Is it just your name?

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01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 1: It is just my name?

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01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 3: Mantis okay Mantianos on Twitter as well. I just put

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01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 3: out a tweet of me walking through the studios here

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01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 3: and explaining how my friend Ryan is crazy.

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01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 4: So make sure, I got a sign. I want to

2607
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 4: ask you, okay, see if it brings you around Manzi too?

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01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 4: Is Nicola jokicica superstar?

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01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 1: Yes?

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01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 2: Yes. If you'd have asked me this two years ago,

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01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 2: I would have said.

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01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 1: No, Okay, Klay Thompson's resume is outside of the.

2613
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 2: What are you an HR department?

2614
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:47,719
Speaker 1: Are you hiring?

2615
01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 4: You can just sit outside of the m vps, which

2616
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 4: is a lot is right there now, and you can

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01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 4: say he doesn't have these MVPs because he's on a

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01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 4: winning team. I can also look at Klay Thompson and

2619
01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 4: say he's the second greatest shooter of all time.

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01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 1: Yes, Larry Bird, Yes, Reggie Miller, yes, yes.

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01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 3: By the way, we might have to settle down. I've

2622
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 3: said that too for you, but we might have to

2623
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 3: settle down in that Larry Bird. Is the more I

2624
01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 3: go back and really looking numbers, more I watch games

2625
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 3: because sometimes it can't just be numbers because of the

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01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 3: era like that you got. This era is putting up

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01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 3: way more shots than somebody.

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01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 2: Clay's.

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01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 3: First of all, I'm not mad if anyone says that,

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01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 3: but I know no, Larry Bird, no, no. What I'm

2631
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 3: just saying is like what didn't Larry Bird do shooting wise?

2632
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 2: Like what didn't he do?

2633
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 3: Like he made huge threes, game winners, buckets, mid range fadeaways,

2634
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 3: wrong leg, right leg, free throws like better defenders on them,

2635
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:45,080
Speaker 3: weak defenders on them. It didn't matter who, like what

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01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 3: more than why Larry Bird being painted? Like why am

2637
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 3: I not the second best shooter? I'm not even mad

2638
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 3: at Clay, but I'm making a case for Larry Bird.

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01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 4: It was a different era. Klay Thompson hits somebody most impossible,

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01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 4: he hits more.

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01:54:57,720 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 3: Don't say that. Hold on what you're about to say

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01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 3: this to sound crazy. This is about what we're about

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01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 3: to say.

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01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 4: The level of difficulty and three pointer that Clay Thompson

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01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 4: hits is tougher than with Larry.

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01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 2: Bird hits man Larry Bird about I'm telling you.

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01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 4: And I will agree with you. You can probably put

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01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 4: that on the fact that he has a different type

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01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 4: of green light.

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Speaker 3: But dude, the green light changes everything because to the

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01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 3: present day, if you told me one shot for your

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01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 3: life on it, I'm taking Reggie Miller over just about anybody,

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01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 3: Like I'm Reggie Miller, Like if you're.

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01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: Taking Clay, I'm right there with Klay Thomps and I'm

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01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 1: not mad at Reggie.

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Speaker 2: Listen, there's about six seven names that you can say

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01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: that I'm not mad at.

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01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 3: If you say Clay, if you say Steph, if you

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01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 3: say Reggie Maailer, if you say Larry Bird, Kevin Durant.

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01:55:39,120 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 3: Obviously Jordan, even though threees aren't necessary his sting, but

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01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 3: he's still Jordan, Kobe and who Dame Lillard.

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Speaker 2: I'll take it. Yeah, that's those are like the guys.

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01:55:49,520 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 2: That's it to me. If you start ranching out and

2664
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 2: getting too creative, Mitch Richmond, I'll.

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01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 1: Be like, hold on, DoD is Dame a superstar? Dame who?

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01:55:57,320 --> 01:55:58,839
Speaker 2: Now that's a Dame is a superstar?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 3: You because I think because I take that more so seriously,

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01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 3: I'll say Dan just got there within in the last

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Speaker 3: couple of seasons.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I believe in Dame. Dame doesn't have an MVP,

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Speaker 4: Dame doesn't have a championship. The furthest he's been is

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01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 4: the Western Conference Finals. He has not had the team

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01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 4: assembled around him.

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Speaker 3: And man, I don't know who you are, you HR

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01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 3: department hiring people on resumes.

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Speaker 4: Me personally, I feel like if Damian Lillard had the

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Speaker 4: team around him that Steph had, I believe he would

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01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 4: have the same, if not very very similar success. And

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Speaker 4: you were all we're both calling him a superstar. But

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01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 4: I'm asking you he's a superstar and Klay Thompson is

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01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:38,640
Speaker 4: not superstar.

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01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 3: I mean, let me give you the definition of superstar

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01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:45,840
Speaker 3: superstar is are you yourself a spectacular player with a team,

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01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:48,720
Speaker 3: without a team the three or four of us.

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01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 1: On the team with you?

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01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 3: Are you a house are you become a household name?

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01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 3: Can you carry a team? Klay Thompson is an amazing

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01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 3: he might you can start to have a conversation. He's

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01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 3: the best, you know, one two punch kind of a thing.

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01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 3: But the idea that he's simply a superstar, I just

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01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 3: don't buy that.

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Speaker 2: He is a star.

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01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 3: And he is maybe as close as you can get

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01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 3: to be in a superstar without being one. But I

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01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:12,320
Speaker 3: don't think he's a star. I don't think he's a superstar.

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01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:14,959
Speaker 3: Superstars are individuals themselves.

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01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 2: That's just me.

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Speaker 3: But either way, I've thoroughly enjoyed doing the show with you.

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01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 3: I will see what folks are saying on Twitter. But again,

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01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 3: kub Live v, Ryan Hollands and also montsee Blanas on

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01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 3: there as well as great doing a show with you all.

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01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 3: Enjoy the rest of your weekend. We got a whole

2704
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,280
Speaker 3: bunch of great hoops left for the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We're outd