1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: It seems like the multiverse is everywhere these days. You 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: go to the movies, every new superhero movie has the multiverse. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Even Google's new quantum computer might be tapping into other dimensions, 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: into other universes. 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: And if there are other universes, well, then good news. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: The Yankees probably have a lot more than twenty seven championships. 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: So let's peer through the wormhole and take a look 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: at some deals that never happened in this universe but 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: might have happened somewhere else. 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Pinstrite multiverse. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: Wanted to talk, that's all. 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: All right. Welcome back, everybody. Welcome back. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: For those of you who've been watching baseball for decades, 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: you know that the Yankees are always involved in big 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: free agents, in big trades, big superstars become available. The 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Yankees always seem to be in on it. But every 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: time that one of these deals happens or doesn't happen, 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I kind of imagine another timeline veering off, like in 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Back to the Future too, where Evil Biff gets a 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: hold of the Gray Sports Almanac. Anyway, I thought it 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: would be fun to kind of talk through some of 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: the major deals that have been rumored over the last 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: three three and a half decades that I've been watching 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: the Yankees and kind of break down where some of 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: these alternate universes branched off and what could have happened 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: in them, And of course anything's possible, but I just 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: thought it would be a fun exercise to see what 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: would have happened if the Yankees did get bonds when 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: they were trying to get them, or if they did 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: get Yoshinobu Yamamoto before last season, maybe the World Series 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: goes differently. 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: And then we're gonna. 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: Have Julian Juliarte to come on and talk about some 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: of the more recent deals that didn't happen and kind 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: of take a look at the paths not taken. But first, 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: let's begin with the alternate nineteen nineties, a time when 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: the Yankees were coming out of a decade in which 38 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: they hadn't won a championship, They hadn't made the playoffs 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty one when they lost in the World Series, 40 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: and they were kind of at a low point as 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: a franchise. They wanted to make some deals to kind 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: of jumpstart the team back towards success. Now, they didn't 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: know that they had a dynasty brewing in the minor leagues, 44 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: and so they were in on some of the big 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: time free agents, specifically Barry Bonds, Greg Maddox, and a 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: few others. So let's go ahead and take a look 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: back at nineteen ninety two during the offseason where one 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: of these timelines branches off. In nineteen ninety two, there 49 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: were two major free agents that hit the market, Greg 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: Maddox and Barry Bonds. 51 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: Let's begin with Maddox. 52 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: He was coming off of a Cy Young Award win 53 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: with the Chicago Cubs, and if you watch the recent 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: MLB Network documentary called One of a Kind, which was 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: about Maddox's career, he said that he basically thought he 56 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: had a deal. 57 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: With the Yankees. He was in New. 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: York, one of the executives had a heart attack, the 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: meeting got moved, and the Braves ended up swooping into 60 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: the last minute and he signed a five year, twenty 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: eight million dollars deal, which at the time was an 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: enormous free agent contract for a pitcher five point six 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: million dollars per year, but it ended up being an 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: enormous bargain for the Braves. No question that today he 65 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: would get forty plus million dollars per season, and you 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: see the numbers here what he did with the Braids. 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: He was with the Braves for eleven years, had one 68 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four wins and a two point six 69 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: to three ERA in that time. He won Cy Young 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Awards in his first three seasons with the Braves. Pretty 71 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: good return on your investment there. He won ten Gold 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Gloves with the Braves. He was a ninety five World 73 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Series champion. He of course played for the Braves against 74 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: the Yankees in the ninety six and ninety nine World Series. 75 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: Yankees won both of those, but maybe they win in 76 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: ninety five. Pitching in the Division Series that year against 77 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: the Mariners was the primary. 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: Reason why they lost. 79 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: If they had Greg Maddox on that staff, maybe they 80 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: move on and maybe their World Series champions a year earlier. 81 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: Maybe they still signed Jimmy Kee, maybe they still get 82 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: John Wetland. The team would probably look a little bit different. 83 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Or maybe it doesn't happen at all. Maybe instead of 84 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: rebuilding with their young core that included the Jeters and 85 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: the Riveras and the Pasadas, maybe because they're getting an 86 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: earlier start on the championship window, they trade some of 87 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: those guys and try and get to the World Series 88 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: a little bit sooner. But Greg Maddox not only would 89 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: have helped jump start the Yankees potential dynasty, but it 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: would have hampered the Braves and they probably don't make 91 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: four World Series in the nineties without Greg Maddox. So 92 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: this is one of those branches where in an alternate 93 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: universe things are very different. All right, So let's talk 94 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: a little bit about Barry Bonds, a guy who's not 95 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: controversial at all. By the time Barry Bonds was finished 96 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh after his first seven seasons in the major leagues, 97 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: just twenty seven years old, he was already a two 98 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: time MVP, a three time Gold Glove winner, a three 99 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: time Silver Slugger winner, and recognized as one of the 100 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: best baseball players in the game, if not the best. 101 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 2: He had an amazing eye. 102 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: He had one hundred and twenty seven walks and a 103 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: four to fifty six on base percentage in nineteen ninety two, 104 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: thirty four home runs, thirty nine stolen bases, and of course, 105 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: the New York Yankees were very interested. The Yankees offered 106 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Bonds a five year, thirty six million dollar contract. He 107 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: ended up getting six years and forty three million from 108 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: the Giants, and he called the Yankees offer quote insulting, 109 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I wish somebody would insult me like that. Perhaps the 110 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: greatest player of our lifetime, but yes, riddled by scandal 111 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: over the accusations that he did steroids. Maybe playing in 112 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium with the short porch would have pumped his 113 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: power numbers up that he wouldn't have needed to take steroids, 114 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: and he might have been content with winning some World 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Series on a team that maybe included Greg Maddox, Bernie Williams, 116 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: Derek Jeter, Marianno Rivere. It could have been one of 117 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: the greatest sports teams ever constructed. Maybe instead of the 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Yankee dynasty being from ninety six through two thousand, they 119 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: get Bonds and Greg Maddox. Maybe it goes from nineteen 120 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: ninety three through two thousand. Maybe it's more like the 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: Bulls of the nineties where they won six championships. There 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 1: were some other moves in the nineties that didn't quite 123 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: happen that could have that would have altered history. The 124 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: Yankees almost traded Mariano Rivera, their elite Hall of Fame 125 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: closer first ever unanimous Hall of Famer for Felix, for 126 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: Mean because they didn't think that Derek Jeter was ready 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: to be a shortstop. Little did they know Derek Jeter 128 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: was going to win the Rookie of the Year and 129 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: go on to be a Hall of Famer himself, So 130 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: that would have changed history. There was another one that 131 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: I want to talk about in ninety seven, but will 132 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: save that for the voicemail, because we did get a 133 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: voicemail about it. And then in nineteen ninety eight, the 134 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: Yankees were on the verge of trading for Randy Johnson 135 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: during his prime, and the asking price was hit Decki Arabu. 136 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: This was according to Jack Curry in his book The 137 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight Yankees. Now, of course the Yankees didn't 138 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: need Randy Johnson in ninety eight, ninety nine, or two thousand, 139 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: because they won the World Series in all of those years. 140 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: But he was still with the Diamondbacks in one where 141 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: he signed after the ninety eight season, and if the 142 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Yankees had somehow managed to trade for him and re 143 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: sign him, maybe. 144 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: That one World Series goes differently. 145 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the Diamondbacks don't even get there without Randy Johnson. 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: But Randy Johnson did come to the Yankees in five, 147 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: and it was a little bit too late in my opinion. 148 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: There was also this rumor that Pedro Martinez could be 149 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: traded to the Yankees in ninety seven. He ended up 150 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: going to the Red Sox, obviously, and it turns out 151 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: that the Expos owner didn't want to make a deal 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: with the Yankees, even though the Yankees offered a better 153 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: trade package. He had no interest in working with the Yankees, 154 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: and so he traded Pedro to the Yankees' biggest rival. 155 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: And the rest is. 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: History, all right, So we got the nineties out of 157 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: the way. Let's talk a little bit about the two thousands. 158 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: There were a few deals in the two thousands that 159 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: I think deserved some attention, and we'll get to the 160 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: twenty tens in just a minute, and then the twenty twenties. 161 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: The twenty tens I find infuriating. But in the two thousands, 162 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: specifically after the two thousand season, Many Ramirez was a. 163 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: Free agent, as was Mike Messina. 164 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: The Yankees opted to go after Mike Messina, and Many 165 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Ramirez ended up being a huge foil for them in Boston. 166 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: But I think that Mike Messina lived up to his 167 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: end of the contract. He didn't win any World Series 168 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: with the Yankees. He ended up making the Hall of Fame. 169 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: He went in as like multi caap kind of thing, 170 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: but I thought that, you know, Mike Messina was fantastic 171 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: with the Yanks. There was also the decision before the 172 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: two thousand and four season to go after and outfielder 173 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: now George Steinbrenner wanted Gary Sheffield, Brian Cashman wanted Vladimir Guerrero. Honestly, 174 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Guerrero was probably the move Yankees went with Sheffield. Sheffield 175 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: had some good years with the Yankees, and he was 176 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: one of the more memorable characters. Some of the best 177 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: bat speed I've ever seen in my life. The funniest 178 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: part about him was that the third base coach used 179 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: to play three freaking miles away because he didn't want 180 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: to get tattooed with a foul ball from Gary Sheffield. 181 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and Vladimir Guerrero Junior ended up winning the 182 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: MVP in two thousand and four, so worked out for him. 183 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: Phil Hughes for Johann Santana was a major talk in 184 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: like the two thousand and six time frame. He ended 185 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: up going to the Mets Yankees hung on to Phil Hughes. 186 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: Hughes had some decent seasons. I think Johannes Santana was 187 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: pretty good with the Mets, but you know, nowhere near 188 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: the dominant pitcher he had been with the Twins. He 189 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: did throw a no hitter with the Mets, and Phil 190 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Hughes was okay. So I'm not really gonna rant and 191 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: rave on this one too much. Just kind of a 192 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: move that you know, you decide not to make and 193 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: you live with the consequences. The big thing of the decade, 194 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: the big alternate timeline branch, if you will, was Aaron 195 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: Boone tearing his acl while playing a pickup game of 196 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: basketball after the twenty three season, after he won the 197 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: pennant for the Yankees with that home run off of 198 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: the late Tim Wakefield that led to Alex Rodriguez becoming 199 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: a Yankee. Now, if a Rod doesn't become a Yankee, 200 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: who knows what happens for the next decade. Yankees probably 201 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: don't win an O nine without him, but who knows 202 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: how the team would have looked, you know, dedicating that 203 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: salary elsewhere. 204 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: I liked a Rod's tenure with the Yankees. 205 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: I thought the end of it was kind of embarrassing 206 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: for him, but I'm not going to complain about two MVPs. 207 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: I wish he had done better in some of his 208 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: earlier playoff appearances. Aaron boons Yankees career was over at 209 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: that point, but maybe if he sticks around and plays 210 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: a couple of more years with the Yankees, maybe they 211 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: would realize they shouldn't hired him as manager. Only kidding 212 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: to the Aaron Boone defenders. All right, let's talk about 213 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: the twenty tens because I feel like there were a 214 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of missed opportunities and the twenty tens and some 215 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: of these really grind my gears. So first of all, 216 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: they had a chance to trade for Cliff Lee, obviously 217 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: pitched great for the Phillies in the nine World Series. 218 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: Yankees had a chance to get him from Seattle. He 219 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: ended up going to the Texas Rangers, where he beat 220 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: them in the postseason. Again, Yankees wouldn't part with the 221 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: prospects to get it done, and then they had a 222 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: chance to sign him as a free agent. 223 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: He ended up going back to the Phillies. 224 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad that one didn't work out because his contract 225 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: ended up being a mess. But the trade you would 226 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: have liked to have gotten done, probably would have got 227 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: the Yankees a World Series. There was also the Justin 228 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: Verlander situation where he was at the end of his 229 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: tenure with the Tigers. The Astros went out and traded 230 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: for him. They unlocked him analytically, and he ended up 231 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: beating the Yankees in the postseason a couple of times. 232 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Now the Yankees were in on Verlander, they wouldn't take 233 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: on the money. They wouldn't take on the money in 234 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: that deal, and because of that, it probably cost them 235 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: two World Series. 236 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 3: Right. 237 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: You hear the Steinbrenner family and Brian Cashman talk about championships, Well, 238 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: there were your championships. They could have had multiple championships 239 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: if they had Justin Verlander. I will take that to 240 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: the day I die. And then they went out and 241 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: traded for John Carlos Stanton in twenty eighteen. Now they 242 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: had just had Aaron Judge hit fifty two home runs 243 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. By the way, what if the Astros 244 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: didn't cheat in twenty seventeen, There's a whole nother timeline. 245 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: That's a whole nother video we could talk about. But 246 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: the Yankees go out and get John Carlos Stanton, and 247 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: arguably that made them too right handed for the next 248 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: several years. What they really should have done, and I'm 249 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: not discounting what Big G has done for us in 250 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: the postseason, but let's be honest. If you wait a 251 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: year and you get Bryce Harp, the team's probably a 252 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: little bit better off. They're more balanced. They got a 253 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: big left handed bat. Imagine last year Soto Judge Harper right. 254 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: They also had the opportunity to go out and get 255 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: Manny Machado. They could have afforded to get both Manny 256 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Machado and Bryce Harper in the same offseason, they decided 257 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: not to. Now, Manny Machado, I'm kind of glad they 258 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: didn't sign. I'm not sure I love his act. He 259 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: seems like kind of a dirty player. But Bryce Harper, 260 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: there's probably never been a guy who's more perfectly suited 261 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: to be a Yankee, And that one just really grinds 262 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: my gears because I feel like he should have been 263 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: that guy. So little Rantcam. This goes out to Brian Cashman. 264 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: When there is a clear and obvious fit for a 265 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: player to come to the Yankees, that's not a bad thing. 266 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: I know that you said you didn't like the aura 267 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: of inevitability that Bryce Harper was gonna come to the Yankees, 268 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: But that inevitability was because he was such a perfect 269 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: fit and he wanted to be there when the Nationals 270 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: came to town. He shaved, you know, when he came to 271 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium birth time. He shaved all year. He wanted 272 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: to warm up to the fans. He wanted to show 273 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: the Yankees that he's willing. Do you think Bryce Harper 274 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: a student of the game and a beard have like myself? 275 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: You think he doesn't know the rule? 276 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: He did that on purpose. He was advertising that he 277 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: wanted to be a Yankee. He had said it when 278 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: he was a kid in high school, a top prospect, 279 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: that his dream was to wear the pinstripes. He wore 280 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: thirty four because it adds up to seven. Mano was 281 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: his dad's favorite player. Mano was his favorite player. I 282 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: just think that this is an all time bonehead move 283 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: by Brian Cashman, overthinking the room. This has been a rent, 284 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: all right, Let's talk about the twenty twenties. 285 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: Now. The twenty twenties obviously still. 286 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Going on, so there's plenty of time for screw ups, 287 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: but the ones that jumped to mind so far. And 288 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: we'll talk about this with Julian in just minute. Corey Seeger, 289 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: Yankees could have had Corey Seger at shortstop. He won 290 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: a World Series with the Rangers. I know he's had 291 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: some issues staying healthy, but won a World Series and 292 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: he came up big in that World Series. His left 293 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: handed bat would have been exactly what the Yankees have 294 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: needed for the last several years. Yoshinobu Yamamoto. The Yankees 295 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: went hard after Yamamoto. I feel like that's one of 296 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: those branch points. Now you can look at this one 297 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: two different ways. Number One, he had shoulder issues in 298 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: his first season with the Dodgers, but he had pitched 299 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: some big games in the postseason, including against the Yankees, 300 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: So maybe the playoffs work out a little bit differently. 301 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: If the Yankees have Yama Moto and then also Juan Soto. 302 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: You know, you went out and you got Juan Soto. 303 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: Yankees probably wouldn't have been as good last year without 304 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Wan Soto, but they gave up a lot of depth 305 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: to get him, and then they tried their hardest to 306 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: sign him this winter. They offered him seven hundred and 307 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: sixty million dollars. That's insanity. I never thought the Yankees 308 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: would go that high. I guess we'll never know how 309 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: the two timelines will diverge, but we'll see what happens 310 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: with that Sodo contract moving forward. I don't think it's 311 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a great contract for the Mets, but it 312 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if he wins a title or two 313 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: in the next fifteen years, just because Cohen is gonna 314 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: spend and from the looks of things, Vladimir Guerrero is 315 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: going to be a free agent and I can see 316 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: him fitting in nicely with the Mets, especially since he 317 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: hates the Yankees. So you know, we'll see how that 318 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: timeline shakes out. But let's get to the conversation. My 319 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: guest today is a social media presence. He is a 320 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: reporter on the Yankees. His name is Julian Juliarte. He's 321 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: been on the channel several times before, and we're going 322 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: to talk about the path not taken for the Yankees 323 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: on many of these moves. 324 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: All Right, you. 325 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: Guys all know this guy. This is Julian Giorlarte. Did 326 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: I say that right, Gielarte. 327 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: It's Gilardi but it's all good. 328 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Brother, mine's not so easy either, so I sympathize. However, 329 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to have you on because you're super you know, 330 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: in touch with the Yankees universe, and all the reactions 331 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: on social media, people clamoring let's go get this. 332 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: Guy, let's go get that guy. 333 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: And then when it doesn't happen, or the Yankees lose 334 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: out on somebody like they did last year with Yamamoto, 335 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: like they did this year with Juan Soto, you know, 336 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: social media goes crazy. So I kind of wanted to 337 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: talk to you about what are the moves in recent years, 338 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: maybe the last I'd say ten years that bother you 339 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: that where you feel like if the move had happened 340 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: and had gone in the Yankees favor, maybe we have 341 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: a couple of rings by now. 342 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: Okay, well, the one we could start with that directly 343 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: impacts us around that time frame when the Yankees right 344 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 4: away was not trading for Justin Burrow answer and getting 345 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: Sonny Gray instead, and that was a mothery issue everyone 346 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: remembers correctly. I didn't want to go over to tax again, 347 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: which is what we might be dealing with right now, 348 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 4: but to go back to then they take the cheap 349 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 4: rather they get. 350 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 3: Sonny Gray, Like, you know, I'd like that movie time. 351 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: But I mean Burlin, there was definitely a guy who 352 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: was looking for even though there was some talk he 353 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: was on a decline, so much decline he ends up 354 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: making a second half of all being cleated with the 355 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: Houston Astros against two World Series championships, one of those 356 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: directly over the momentary of those directly going through the Yankees, 357 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 4: but specifically twenty seventeen. That season, it goes to Game seven, 358 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 4: despite old trash can nonsense or whatever, you could throw 359 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: out the winds for a second, and if the Yankees 360 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 4: had justin Berlin, that are obviously going to that World 361 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: Series and they might even win it, and who knows, 362 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 4: they might even have another one after that. 363 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 364 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: So the one I was just ranting on is Bryce Harper. 365 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: That's for me, the killer because I feel like he 366 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: like he wanted to be a Yankee when he was 367 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: a kid, like he was. I remember when he was 368 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: a prospect, right he was sixteen years old. He was 369 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: on the cover of Sports Illustrated. I'm in a hotel 370 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. It's like five o'clock in the morning 371 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 1: and I'm running on the treadmill and sports illustrators right there, 372 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: and I see the head line. It says like the 373 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: next great One of the Chosen One or something like that. 374 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: So I pick it up and I'm reading it while 375 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm on the treadmill, and my eyes are bouncing, and 376 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm reading about this kid and they're talking about he's 377 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: hitting five hundred and seventy foot home runs and all 378 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: this stuff. 379 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 2: I look him up on YouTube. 380 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: I see all the like gigantic blasts that he's hitting 381 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: in the Tropicana Field Dome and stuff like that. And 382 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: so I became a fan, and I followed his whole career, 383 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: and I was just waiting for him to be a 384 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: free agent. And I thought, like, remember he shaved when 385 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: they came to Yankee Stadium. 386 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: He shaved. He wanted to be a Yankee, Julian. 387 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: He really did. And that what really hurts a lot. 388 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: Like for me, I felt like. 389 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: It was almost a four god conclusion. He was gonna 390 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 4: be a Yankee was free agency like I was waiting, 391 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 4: Like you, I felt the same exact way. I'm like, 392 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: this guy's swinging made for Yankee Stadium. He wants to 393 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: be a Yankee, like he's been waiting for this for 394 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 4: a while. It's a good fit for several reasons. And 395 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 4: then the crazy thing about that is that he was 396 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 4: waiting to play first base and they said they didn't 397 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 4: think he could do it, and that will. 398 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: Be the play first right, Yeah, I guess even worse. 399 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: Ye, he's been a famous, phenomenal first baseman too. The 400 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: other guy from that that time was Manny Machado. There 401 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: was some thought that the Yankees could get Harper and Machado. 402 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: They end up getting neither. They actually seemed more interested 403 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: in Machada at the time. If you remember, he came 404 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: to Yankee Stadium and they had the big like sign up, 405 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: like on the the bill on the Diamond Vision Welcome 406 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: Manny Machado, and he was wearing a Yankees hat and 407 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: all this stuff. There was footage of him leaving Yankee 408 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: Stadium in a limo, and then you got like people 409 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: on social media saying, oh, you know, they definitely got him. 410 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: I got all these sources he said he's going and 411 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: then and then he doesn't go there, and it was 412 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: But honestly, like, that's one that doesn't crush me because 413 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: I've always felt like he's kind of a dirty player, 414 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: like he didn't feel like a Yankee to me. 415 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: Do you agree? 416 00:20:52,960 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, but their base is absolute that, so I do 417 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 4: understand what you're saying. It's definitely harp roll over Machada 418 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: if you have to pick between two, Manchada definitely hurts. 419 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 4: But I do get that he's not exactly Yankee material, 420 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 4: quote unquote. 421 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: There's a couple of things that's a little bit different 422 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: about him. 423 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: His playing the field would have been toured the fans, Oh, 424 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 4: they would have loved that. The defense offense, like it 425 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: would have really fixed the whole up third base at 426 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 4: the time, and dow Harr was still looking good and 427 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: that's part of the problem, Like. 428 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: They know what's obviously a snowball hurt and like all that. 429 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 4: But like Manny Machada was like a generational third basement, 430 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 4: so that kind of sucks. And then the price Harporridge. 431 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: It was like six outfielders, but three of them we 432 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: knew weren't good, So that was always like really really 433 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 4: just not like. 434 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: Good at all. 435 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was peak excuses the portion of Brian Cashman's career, 436 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: Like it was excuses not to get somebody rather than 437 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: like let's go find an excuse to George is all 438 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: about let's find an excuse. Let's find a reason to 439 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: go get Roger clements right, Let's find a reason to 440 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: go get these guys even though we're already winning. Like 441 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: Cashman would always find a reason not to make a deal, 442 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's been kind of like the 443 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: difference between him and like some of the other gms 444 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: that have put their teams over the top. Another one 445 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: that bothers me that I want to ask you about, 446 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: Corey Seeger obviously won a World Series with Texas. 447 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: Now the Yankees do have Volpi. 448 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people, myself included, have said 449 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: that Volpi looks like a prototypical second basement. And I 450 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: think if you had Seger at shortstop, Volpi at second base, 451 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: that's an unbelievable defense. And you know, those guys could 452 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: have been like the Keystone combination for a decade. 453 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 4: Seeger, I'm extremely torn out. Like I did kind of 454 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: see him as a Yankee material too. He definitely fits 455 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 4: the Yankees for like a lot of reasons. He's a 456 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 4: very quiet guy. The only thing is I don't think 457 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: he would have liked the new York media. 458 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: He's really and. 459 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 4: I think he could have handled it though, like he 460 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: was pleased a very good it. Obviously his defense is 461 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: a little bit up and down for me. I mean, Boby, 462 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: I still think it's pretty good. I just want to 463 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 4: see the bat come along a little bit more. But like, overall, 464 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: to the Yankees win the last couple of years with 465 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 4: Seeger and a line up in let's. 466 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: Say Bolby was gone, I mean maybe you never know. 467 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: The other thing is like you could have gone the 468 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: Matt Olson route, you banth Andy was still in the fold. 469 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 3: It would have been like a big chip to get Oldston, 470 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: which would have been huge. 471 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: So like I'm like torn on that one a little bit, 472 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: but I understand it for sure. 473 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: All Right, So let's forget about the alternate universe and 474 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: look forward in this one fifteen years from now. What 475 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: is history going to say about the Jan Soto deal 476 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: that that happened this winter? Obviously, the Yankees went to 477 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: seven hundred and sixty million. I never thought they would 478 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: even go close to offering that much. And if you 479 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: had told me back in February, they're gonna offer Juan 480 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: Soto seven hundred and sixty million, dollars, I would say, well, 481 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: he's a Yankee, you know, but seven sixty five to 482 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: the to the Mets. I mean, you can make the 483 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: argument that you know, over the next fifteen years, Cohen 484 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: is likely to surround him with other players because he's 485 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: gonna spend, right, But you never know what's gonna happen 486 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: in this life. Look what happens if Cohen has financial 487 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean obviously he's he's got a lot of money, 488 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: but you know what if he has financial issues, what 489 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: if he has to sell the team or you know, 490 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: like we saw Jeff Bezos have a divorce and have 491 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: to like, you know, give a lot of money like 492 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: Bill Gates. Like, you never know what's gonna happen in 493 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: somebody's life that could force, you know, business decisions to 494 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: be different. You know what if he gets scammed by 495 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: another burning made off right, Like, there's no guarantee in 496 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: life that him going to the Mets is gonna yield championships. 497 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: But then again, like if everything goes according to plan, 498 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: I can see them surrounding him with a Laddie Junior 499 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: next year, you know, filling in with the best pitchers 500 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: here and there that are available. But how do you 501 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: think that this contract's going to age. 502 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: Really good points they're like, how do. 503 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: We even know Cohen's even gonna own the team of 504 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 4: fifteen years? 505 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 3: Like leave it. That was like one of my thoughts 506 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 3: on a twenty time the deal. 507 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 4: I think Coen was like on man it for the 508 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: long haul, but like you never know what's gonna happen, 509 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: like you say, like it's such. 510 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: A long time, like which people get bored. 511 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: That and the fact that like some of those those 512 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: have the opt out after five years, but like I 513 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: doubt the exercises there, and it's like the way they 514 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: could tack on more money, like kinds of how the 515 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 4: Yankees could into the next year with cold but decide 516 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: not to. That whole thing was really weird too. But 517 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 4: but sodo stuff. I mean, I gotta think, man, I 518 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 4: feel like it's gonna be okay. I think it's gonna 519 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: aid bad as the back into the deal probably and 520 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 4: they're gonna win a championship. I mean not next year, 521 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 4: but eventually you'll probably give them one just because of 522 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 4: like the resources they have, maybe at least one. I 523 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 4: don't know if they're gonna go with Tynasty because like 524 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: that doesn't really happened anymore, except maybe the Dodge's hopefully 525 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: not but other than that, doesn't really happen anymore. Maybe, 526 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 4: so like I think they get one ring for him 527 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: at least, but I think the last five years. 528 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 3: Is going to be like pretty bad. Probably he can't 529 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 3: be like the bab might will be there anymore. 530 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 4: And he's also like I told someone else that you know, 531 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 4: he's only like twenty six, but he's an old twenty six. 532 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 3: He's been playing a lot of baseball. 533 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 4: And he played, Yeah, like he's not like your average 534 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 4: twenty six you'll have just got called up from the 535 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: to the show or something like. 536 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: He's been going through it for a while. 537 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 4: Like he might drop off earlier than others just because 538 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: of that. 539 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, I've been saying similar things. 540 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: You know, Mike Trout came up early too, and you know, 541 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: in his thirties he's broken down and he was a 542 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: far better athlete overall than one. So and everybody's different obviously, 543 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: but you know, any like we said, anything can happen. Julian, 544 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on to talk about the paths not taken. 545 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: Everybody followed Julian on X and you've got a YouTube channel, 546 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: still right, Doug out station. 547 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got that. I have a bunch of different 548 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: things going on. So I got a Latino Sports and 549 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 3: I'll just believe it at that. But I'll tell you 550 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: on the side other things too. 551 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, I can't. I'm not going to borrow your listeners. 552 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 4: But thanks to everyone. 553 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: Follow me and you'll see what's going on. 554 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Julian, thanks a lot. All right, you guys 555 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: are not rid of me yet. 556 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: We do have one more thing to get to and 557 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: that is a voicemail that is kind of a supplement 558 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: to the topic we talked about tonight. 559 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: I also have one submission for your alternate timeline show. 560 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: Kenny Rogers for Greg Vaughn in nineteen. 561 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Ninety seven, Yes, Kenny Rogers for Greg Vaughan, the deal 562 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: that was nearly consummated, but Greg Vaughan failed his physical 563 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: and so the Yankees basically backed out of the deal 564 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: at the last second. It was at the point where 565 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Rogers was shaking everybody's hand in the dugout. 566 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: He was on his way out the door. 567 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: And then Greg Vaughan the next year hit fifty home 568 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: runs for the Padres. 569 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: So you know what's the Padres timeline look like? 570 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: Do they make get back to the World Series if 571 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,959 Speaker 1: they don't have Greg Vaughn, if they have Kenny Rodgers 572 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: and then Kenny Rogers ended up getting traded to the 573 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: Oakland A's for Scott Broschess, who won the nineteen ninety 574 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: eight World Series MVP against Greg Vaughan and the Padres. 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