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Speaker 1: Is the best of two pros and Lamar rating Winn

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Speaker 1: and Jonas Knox on radio.

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Speaker 2: How the hell we feeling here? Good on a Wednesday morning? Good? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is Tony Danza doing back bit mattress commercials?

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Speaker 2: Now, what do you mean? Do you remember when he

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Speaker 2: was the boss? Tony Danza and that his name? I

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Speaker 2: think so, Coop?

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Speaker 4: You were in that world, don't you know Tony Danza?

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Speaker 2: Who's the boss? It's before my time?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, all right, you would that you would? Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's good. That's rude. So I'm pretty certain.

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Speaker 2: Nothing like Yes, that is correct Tony Danza. See, we

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Speaker 2: don't need rock, we got Coop. He was before your time, though,

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Speaker 2: I mean that shows before my time.

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Speaker 3: I think it is before your time. How old are

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Speaker 3: you cause, I mean you can't know what thirty six?

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Speaker 3: It's not that far before your time.

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Speaker 5: First episode was in nineteen eighty four. I was born

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Speaker 5: in nineteen eighty eight. You might have a point.

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Speaker 2: You're a lying. Yeah, lies, there it is.

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Speaker 6: You're lying.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever actually say those words? No? No, no,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't. That's the best far is LeVar convinced me.

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Speaker 2: That's an actual lie.

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Speaker 3: I mean it should have been Yeah, there was that

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Speaker 3: one part where yeah, you had to break your birthday,

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Speaker 3: your your birthday party or something to that effect.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think LeVar is getting get confused with like

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Speaker 5: the very first scene of the movie when we're telling

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Speaker 5: I'm telling the teacher. Everybody's telling the teacher what your

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Speaker 5: parents do for a living, right, And I said, my dad,

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Speaker 5: he's a he's a lie.

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Speaker 2: He's a professional liar. And then I was trying to

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Speaker 2: say lawyer, but I said liar.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, no, being a childhood like movie kid star,

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Speaker 7: it's you know, it's interesting, it's got its ups and downs.

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Speaker 2: Do people recognize you still? No? Not really. He's on

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Speaker 2: my TV right now. Guys, he's on my Netflix. If

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Speaker 2: you go in stir on your Netflix, you will see

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Speaker 2: little Coop's face. Oh it's so cute.

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Speaker 3: I almost texted him.

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Speaker 2: About it yesterday. He was a cute little boy, little blonde.

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Speaker 2: I said, it was.

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Speaker 3: Like that man, Well, because that was his time, damn,

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Speaker 3: that was his time to be cute.

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Speaker 2: A right everybody else?

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Speaker 4: Oh, come on, what are the what are the downs?

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Speaker 4: Like you know, the the upsur fame, money, all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: What are the downs that come along.

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Speaker 2: With getting bullied? At school.

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Speaker 6: No, oh yeah, at school jealous jealous kids. Yes, what yeah,

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Speaker 6: so I mean the kids put me in a movie

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Speaker 6: I'm going to behind.

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Speaker 5: Well I went. I was in private school all the

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Speaker 5: way up until high school. High school was my first

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Speaker 5: time going to public school.

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Speaker 2: Private school, and then I wanted to see Jennifer Tilley's bags.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get to do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you did, but no, once I got into high school,

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Speaker 5: a lot of the girls wanted to talk to me,

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Speaker 5: and then the guys didn't like that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, so then came the bullying. That's very interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Tilly. Yeah, she's a poker player, now she is.

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Speaker 2: If she's listening right now, hit me up. Let's play

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Speaker 2: some poker. Dilly dilly, Okay, I see what I see it,

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Speaker 2: Dilly did? Don't say LeVar agree? How that was going

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Speaker 2: to be My natural reaction is LeVar said it? But

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Speaker 2: you didn't. You're right, that's messed up. That's messed up.

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Speaker 2: You look at me that way, right, Well, it's a

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, she doesn't look quite the same

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Speaker 3: I think she still looks pretty good. Yeah, I take

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Speaker 3: I take it back. You're fantastic for let me take

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Speaker 3: it back. Let me take it back. I just had

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Speaker 3: to click on it, click down on it, click down

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Speaker 2: If you really want it.

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Speaker 4: So uh so away we go here on two pros

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Speaker 4: and a cup of Joe on this Wednesday morning, we go.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it's worth or what it even

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Speaker 4: means big picture, but we do have a brand new

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Speaker 4: AP Top twenty five after college football. Yeah, and we've

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Speaker 4: got actual games as a body of evidence to showcase

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Speaker 4: where teams are stacked. In this AP Top twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Ohio State is number one. They are now number one

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Speaker 4: too all right, just seems a little messed up. Just

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Speaker 4: who dropped down thirteen spots to twenty one, and then

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Speaker 4: we had Florida State who was not ranked. That's all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden fourteenth in the country going into the game.

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Speaker 4: So again, until we get to the college football playoff,

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Speaker 2: What was Alabama rank going into the game. They were, yeah,

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Speaker 7: Miami is a big mover. Miami moved up five spots.

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Speaker 7: Iowa State moved up six spots. That's about the most

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Speaker 4: So, you know, I was thinking about and looking at

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Speaker 4: in the playoff. But I look at Georgia and I go,

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Speaker 4: know if there was just a fatigue element to it.

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Speaker 4: But they went years without losing a game.

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Speaker 4: It just it seems like we were just so used

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Speaker 3: I think you still always film in though I think

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Speaker 3: you always they're always a factor.

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Speaker 2: I gave you a little interesting nugget though, what's the nugget?

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Speaker 7: So the preseason rankings for the A People right, there

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Speaker 7: A people, uh, with Penn State and Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Right, Penn State was two and the A People.

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Speaker 7: Three, and the coaches poll preseason, but they were almost

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Speaker 7: number one. Texas got twenty five, so it was actually

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Speaker 7: really close. After just one week of football. Ohio State

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Speaker 7: Penn State only got seven. So it's crazy, how like

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Speaker 2: There in the media that vote on this. Were the

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Speaker 2: eight people just thinking about that bar I mean, people

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Speaker 2: got to do their coaches.

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Speaker 7: By the way, for that matter too, the coach's poll

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Speaker 7: was all the more even again, Ohio State fifty nine

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Speaker 2: Just one week. That's it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they played a bigger game. That was a

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Speaker 3: big game, and you gotta believe whoever won that game

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Speaker 3: that's just that's how it plays out. It is a

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Speaker 3: big game, you know what.

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Speaker 7: I love about it though, November first one versus two

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Speaker 7: Ohio State then the state.

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Speaker 3: They both take both take care of business and process. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but they come in for the white out. It's just

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Speaker 3: that's a hard one. That's a hard one to deal with.

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Speaker 3: That's a hard one to deal with. There's been some speculation.

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Speaker 2: Coming out on it.

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Speaker 4: By the way, for some reason, Lee said before the

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Speaker 4: show that he refused to take part in any white

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Speaker 2: He can't keep his clothes white enough for that? Oh,

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Speaker 2: I got you? Or did you? You sure? Step up

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Speaker 2: the bat to defend? What do you mean? That was

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Speaker 2: a dick? She dug, she dug, he can't keep his

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Speaker 2: white stuff white? How would you know? I give her

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Speaker 2: all my whites like her. I give her. They're dating?

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Speaker 2: Q How they're doing laundry together? They're dating? It feels

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Speaker 2: like reckless speculation? Is that? Is that? Can we confirm that,

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Speaker 2: Sally Richardson? They're dating?

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Speaker 4: Did you guys see the little uh back and forth

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Speaker 4: between Davos, Swenny and Brian Kelly yesterday. That was for

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Speaker 4: some reason, Brian Kelly I think took offense to Davos

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Speaker 4: Swenny kind of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you get this.

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Speaker 4: So listen to the sound because it feels like Dabo

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Speaker 4: here was Dabos Sweitty talking about the Clemson l s

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Speaker 8: That is a physical group, It is a very smart quarterback.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna be a problem. And they got some explosive dudes.

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Speaker 8: And we it was a hell of a game down

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Speaker 8: the last play, right out of the gate. It's like

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Speaker 8: getting the final exam Day one a class. They made

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Speaker 8: a sixty five, we made a fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: Were great. So that was Dabos talking about the game

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Speaker 3: So he said that they sted out at one was

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Speaker 3: a passing grade. One was a failing grade. Well but

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Speaker 3: he gave Brian Kelly and les you a failing grade.

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Speaker 3: Why they got a passing grade.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great win. But he's kind of right.

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Speaker 4: Neither one of them was great, like it wasn't you know,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't this flawless football game.

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Speaker 2: And Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 3: But don't make educated like don't. Don't make it academic, right,

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Speaker 3: don't don't bring it into the realm of great you know,

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Speaker 3: test grades and and percentages that way, and that can

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Speaker 2: All right, then then you're in the same school as

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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly, who I'm sarcastic. But let's say you lost.

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Speaker 2: But let's sear what he said. We dominated him in

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Speaker 2: the second half.

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Speaker 9: So he's either a really good grader for you know,

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Speaker 9: giving himself a fifty eight, or he's a really hard

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Speaker 9: greater on us, or.

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Speaker 2: He didn't see the second half, which that might be

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Speaker 2: the case. He might not have wanted to see the

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Speaker 2: second half.

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Speaker 3: He gave them the fifty eight, Like didn't he give

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Speaker 3: them the fifty eight? He said, we did the sixties.

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Speaker 3: It was the opposite.

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Speaker 7: Is Brian Kelly marsh in the realm of like one

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Speaker 7: of the most unlikable college footballer.

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Speaker 2: I guess voice really did hits it too. You won

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Speaker 2: the game. It was a seventeen to ten ball game,

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Speaker 2: isn't that what the final score was?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: LS? You beat him, right? Right? Yeah? But no, Dabo

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Speaker 2: was giving them sitting a little higher grade.

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Speaker 7: But he was saying that he didn't feel like either

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Speaker 7: team really, you know, blew it out of the water.

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Speaker 2: He's right, he's not wrong. Yeah, he's not wrong, and

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Speaker 2: he's got to take that shot.

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Speaker 7: Like I'm telling you, man, it's it's there's so many

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Speaker 7: The College Football Playoff Committee did change their waiting on

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Speaker 7: I've ever seen person to college football, it's not like

439
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 7: the NFL. The NFL is just a sterile corporate environment.

440
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 7: It is premier league soccer. It is incredible the way

441
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 7: the fans are, the way they treat it, how they

442
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 7: I would say, tailgate around it, and the things they like,

443
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 7: the bars, everything else, like the fandom behind it, the

444
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 7: closest thing.

445
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: It's so much more tribal and so close to college football.

446
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 7: It's funny, like I wish more people could experience that,

447
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 7: because if they did, they'd be like, this is fun,

448
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 7: like this is a this is an awesome atmosphere, just

449
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 7: like I felt like background was in college.

450
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 4: Who parties harder college football or in EPL fans?

451
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, Back in the day, some of

452
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 2: these soccer leagues, like people are.

453
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 7: Getting like stabbed and killed. It's just it's wild, setting

454
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 7: fire on stuff.

455
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know, it's I've seen.

456
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 7: Cars going river in college football, goalposts going rivers.

457
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: Like it's it's close. You know.

458
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 7: There's a period of time when I was young, and

459
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Speaker 7: I remember in columb it was like if they want

460
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 7: a big game, they'd be like cars on fire. If

461
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 7: they lost the big game, they'd be flipping cars to

462
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 7: be on fire, and I was like, hey, Mom and dad,

463
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 7: why why are the cars on fire?

464
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: Like Ohio stay lost? It's like, oh, all right, well

465
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: that makes sense. Yeah, I guess does it? I don't know.

466
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: I mean I can see somebody in Ohio saying that

467
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 3: makes sense or Michigan's you.

468
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 7: Know, does that not happen in an exactly valleys? Thing

469
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 7: like we used to is soft now because they don't

470
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 7: set cars on.

471
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 3: We used to win. We used to win big games.

472
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 3: We rioted. But you know, you got to keep in

473
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 3: mind we're Philly and we're Pittsburgh, and Philly fans they

474
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 3: they act up when you know they can't handle success.

475
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: That's true. I don't know what it is about Philly fans, man,

476
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 3: but they can't listen. That's my mob, That's that's definitely

477
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: my mom. But I'm just saying, Saturday Philly fans, I

478
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: love them to death. Sunday Philing Philly fans not so much.

479
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. And it's the same people. So I

480
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: don't know how you split it up. You know, it's

481
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: a great you know, hey, hey, get a little bit

482
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: of this steak. Yeah, you see the steak? You get

483
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: his a little Soup.

484
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Speaker 4: So David Mulgata, the agent for Micah Parsons, was on

502
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: first take, of course, so he's talking that, Yeah, of

503
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: course he was. He was on first take, and he

504
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: had a couple of interesting, interesting things to say, one

505
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Speaker 4: of which was the quote unquote negotiation that Micah Parsons

506
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 4: and Jerry Jones allegedly had back in March when Micah

507
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: got back from being out of the country. This was

508
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Speaker 4: his agent's take on that situation.

509
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Speaker 11: As far as far as Mike is concerned, he was,

510
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 11: you know, he was out of the country. He got

511
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 11: a call from Jerry's assistant and was asked to come

512
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 11: in to me about leadership. So when he got back

513
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 11: from his vacation, he came in and he gave them

514
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 11: a call, told him was the back he was ready

515
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 11: to meet. At some point during that meeting that was

516
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 11: represented to him about was going to be about leadership

517
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 11: get turned into contracting talk. And you know, if you're

518
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 11: a twenty five year old football player and your boss,

519
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 11: who happens to be the most powerful person in the NFL,

520
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 11: starts talking about contracts, it's hard for you to end

521
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 11: that conversation. So they had a conversation. Micah nodded his

522
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Speaker 11: head out of respect. Obviously, there's a power dynamic that's

523
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 11: a little different there. One guy's the owner of the

524
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Speaker 11: team and the GM and the other one is Michael

525
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 11: Parson is a young twenty five year old football player.

526
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 11: So I'm not sure if there was a miscommunication there.

527
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 11: By the time Mike had walked out, but at no

528
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 11: point did Michael believe that he was negotiating contract.

529
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Speaker 2: So that was a that makes sense. I mean, that

530
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: checks out. I mean, what do you mean?

531
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Speaker 4: Eh, Well, numbers were discussed, and there was another report

532
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: from Don Van Natta and Jeremy Fowler on ESPN that

533
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 4: said that Jerry and Micah had reportedly had the parameters

534
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Speaker 4: of the deal, and then Parsons called Stephen Jones after

535
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Speaker 4: that meeting to try and see if they could increase

536
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Speaker 4: some of the monies in the contract.

537
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Speaker 2: So I don't believe that, Okay, I mean, okay, I

538
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 2: don't believe that.

539
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't believe that. That's that's just my

540
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: opinion on it. I don't.

541
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Speaker 2: I don't believe that to be true. I'll see what's

542
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: happening here. I mean, he'll believe one guy, he just

543
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: won't believe the other. Damn.

544
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Speaker 3: I'm not a David Mullagat fan either, But I'm just

545
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 3: saying I don't believe that to be true.

546
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say. I don't. I don't believe

547
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: that to be true.

548
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: Like again, and even if they had the discussion, even

549
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: like and I feel like that checks out like they are.

550
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: He had the.

551
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: Discussion point, they brought up numbers, this, that, and the other.

552
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: I just don't see Micah committing to a parameter of

553
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: a contract without talking with his agent.

554
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: In fact, I would. I would extend further.

555
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: To say the vast majority of guys that are in

556
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: the NFL wouldn't do that without the involvement of their agent.

557
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that's rather obvious.

558
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 7: Well, the thing I'd ask you is, do you think

559
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 7: they hadn't had a conversation at any point about what

560
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 7: a contract would look like? Because what I think most

561
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 7: likely happened is it's he probably already had conversations with

562
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 7: his agent before about what they're looking for, what they're

563
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 7: going for, and then when Jerry asked them to come up,

564
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 7: he's talking them about it. But by here's the thing is,

565
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 7: by no means when you're a player and an owner

566
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 7: general manager asked you to come up, do you believe

567
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 7: that like you're actually negotiating the contract, you know what

568
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like you maybe put in some framework or

569
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 7: talking about some things, but like you're not, Like this

570
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 7: doesn't pen to paper right, Like so many things have

571
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 7: fallen through in contracts, And this is how extends outside

572
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 7: of football because you know, whatever attorney's got involved or

573
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 7: agents got involved and they didn't like the language in

574
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 7: certain clauses in the contract and it fell through.

575
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: That happens all the time.

576
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Speaker 7: So like the general point that I would take is

577
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 7: regardless of what was said in that meeting, like this

578
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 7: isn't the good old days, Like that's not how it works, Jerry.

579
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 7: So I don't care if there was like a verbal

580
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 7: agreement or whatever you thought you had had or you know,

581
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 7: spit on your hands and you know, shook hands like

582
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 7: a yeah, you have to get in writing.

583
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like forget that, you have to get in writing.

584
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 7: Like Jerry Jones is a savvy enough businessman to know

585
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 7: that any deal he's going to negotiate, there is not

586
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 7: a word of mouth negotiation like contract being taken place.

587
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: That's not how the NFL works.

588
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 7: He knows that he just signed deron Bland to that

589
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 7: it was that just a spit on their hands shake

590
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 7: and there you go. Is that how that worked? I mean,

591
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 7: like all this stuff is believable. It just when it

592
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 7: comes down to it, none of it's an actual contract,

593
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 7: Like none of it's actually on paper, both parties signed

594
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 7: the agreement and that's the contract we want with moving forward.

595
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: And obviously they couldn't come to that.

596
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 7: And you know, Micah was wise enough to make sure

597
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 7: his agent was involved. So look, a good thing for

598
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 7: Mike is he got his agent involved, he got the

599
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 7: deal he wanted. I just you know, I wanted to

600
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 7: be able to get on the field and play and

601
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 7: see what Green Bay is capable of this year.

602
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: I think he'll play, and I think that this whole

603
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: conversation about what took place between Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons,

604
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: it's like.

605
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: You tell guys, it is so old and and listen.

606
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones has done how many contracts during the duration

607
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: of his career versus how many has Michael Parsons been

608
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: a part of. I don't act like this is on

609
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons, Like that's whack is s. I don't act

610
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: like it's on Michael Parsons. Whatever it was that you

611
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: were trying to get done, Jerry, you try to get

612
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: it done. Fine, you try to get it done with

613
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: the player, but you also try to get that done

614
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: with the agent. And if that doesn't align, it doesn't align.

615
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: But don't try to make this mess out to be

616
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: like micaelh like did the contract but didn't do the

617
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: contract and then his agent came and met No.

618
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Speaker 2: Don't do that. That doesn't add up. It doesn't make sense.

619
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Speaker 3: You're you're a guy who is very, very experienced in

620
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: running a team.

621
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Speaker 2: So don't put that out there like that, because that's misleading.

622
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: Even if you had that conversation, you pay him, you're

623
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: his employer. If he called you to come in there

624
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: and he talked to you about numbers and you felt

625
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: like and it's easy, believe you me, it's easy to

626
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: feel like you have a close relationship with the owner

627
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: of the team. At times that does happen where you

628
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: have close conversations, you're in close quarters, you discuss things,

629
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: you discuss the future of the team. They try to

630
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: hit on your emotional strings and your chords and talk

631
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: about what the city means and all these things. Stop

632
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: putting that on Micah Parsons. The bottom line is a

633
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: contract wasn't done. You needed to talk to the agent

634
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: at some point in time, no matter what the conversation

635
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: that took place between you and Michael Parsons, and everybody

636
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: needed to get on the same page. That didn't happen.

637
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: Just say we needed to get on the same page.

638
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: We weren't on the same page. And now Mike is gone.

639
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: That's it.

640
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: Like all this other stuff to try to justify one

641
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: thing over to another, this and that, it's a dumb

642
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: ass move. No matter how you slice it, it's a

643
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: dumb ass move. I don't give a damn if Michael

644
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: Parsons has three good years left in that back, that's

645
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: still a horrible move. To allow Michael Parsons to leave,

646
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: that's a horrible move. And nothing you say, nothing you're

647
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: gonna do, whether you agree with it that Micah's agent

648
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: or not, whether you listen to all of the speculation

649
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: or the things that get reported out there or not.

650
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: The bottom line is there's no justification for letting Michael

651
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: Parsons leave your team before his rookie contract was over.

652
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 3: You didn't do another contract with him. You can't justify it.

653
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: Let's just move on. You're gonna get your asses kicked

654
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: by Philly. Go get that ass whipped, come back and

655
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Speaker 3: have to answer more questions about why you didn't bring

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons back.

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Speaker 2: You did this, Why don't you gonna get your ass. Well,

658
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Speaker 2: don't blame that on somebody else.

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Speaker 4: You did that, David Willi Getta also explain sort of

660
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Speaker 4: these structure of the contract and how the numbers came

661
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Speaker 4: to be yesterday on first stake as well too.

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Speaker 11: From an AP why stand standpoint, you're just looking at

663
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Speaker 11: the average that there was offered to him.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was forty.

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Speaker 11: Point five was the offer which would have made him

666
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Speaker 11: at the time, from an APY standpoint, the highest paid.

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Speaker 11: That being said, the way the cash flower structured over

668
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Speaker 11: his first three new years, he would not be paid

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Speaker 11: as the highest player, highest paid player in the NFL.

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Speaker 11: So again that's why I say the devil's in the details.

671
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Speaker 11: And another important part of the contract was a four

672
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Speaker 11: year deal versus a five year deal.

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Speaker 2: Right when you look at that that fifth.

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Speaker 11: New year, it could be the difference in thirty to

675
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Speaker 11: forty million dollars for the player. You know, if you

676
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Speaker 11: look at where the pass rusher market was a year ago,

677
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Speaker 11: it was at thirty five million or so with Nick Moosa,

678
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Speaker 11: now said forty seven million in one year with Michael Parkson.

679
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Speaker 11: So four years from now, where do you think that

680
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Speaker 11: number is. It's probably culture to sixty five to seventy

681
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Speaker 11: million dollars a year, and if we lock in that

682
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Speaker 11: fifty year currently at forty million dollars, just that year

683
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Speaker 11: loan is worth an addition of thirty million dollars to Mike,

684
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Speaker 11: if not more.

685
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Speaker 2: And that's not even counting the.

686
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Speaker 11: Rays that he got for the next four years, or

687
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Speaker 11: the fact that the Packers.

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Speaker 2: We're we're, you know, we're good enough to.

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Speaker 11: Us that they gave us the fifth year option as

690
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Speaker 11: a linebacker this year as opposed to be So that's

691
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Speaker 11: an additional three million dollars. So you know, the difference

692
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Speaker 11: between those two deals you're looking at could be possibly,

693
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Speaker 11: you know, sixty seventy million dollars when it's all seven done.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

695
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Speaker 7: I mean, first off, it's it's simple math. Like you

696
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Speaker 7: add on an additional year, your average per year goes down.

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Speaker 7: So thank you for the math lesson David. The other

698
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Speaker 7: thing is that he doesn't really point out or doesn't

699
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Speaker 7: do a great job of explaining it's the reason why

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Speaker 7: you want a four year of verus a five year

701
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Speaker 7: is it gives one less year of team control. So

702
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Speaker 7: in your negotiations, if Micah Parsons does what you think

703
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Speaker 7: he's going to do, you know, to his point about

704
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 7: what that final year in the contract is worth. Let's

705
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Speaker 7: say it's forty million, and the going rate average, you know,

706
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Speaker 7: per year is actually closer to fifty or whatever the

707
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Speaker 7: number is. You're renegotiating that contract center, right, because you're

708
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Speaker 7: pressing free agency center. So the duration of the deal

709
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 7: matters if it's not as long because you.

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Speaker 2: Keep three versus your depression three versus year four.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and you're obviously continuing to keep up with

712
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 7: what the true market rate is if he's obviously playing

713
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Speaker 7: up up to those standards. So that's how I described

714
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Speaker 7: why there is more value placed on four years versus

715
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Speaker 7: five for those reasons. And he'll be, I believe, thirty

716
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Speaker 7: years old if my math is correct, as opposed to

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Speaker 7: thirty one, which is again the age that Trey Hendrickson

718
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Speaker 7: is in. And obviously at that point in time when

719
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Speaker 7: you want to re up again, it becomes a much

720
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Speaker 7: more difficult task when you hit that age.

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Speaker 2: Of thirty to redegotiate versus twenty nine.

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Speaker 4: I mean, so basically, Jerry drug his feet and this

723
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Speaker 4: time it got him. He waited too long. They were

724
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Speaker 4: talking contract and at the time, it.

725
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Speaker 3: Kind of did the contract bro and it was before

726
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Speaker 3: he waited.

727
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Speaker 4: Too long, and it was before all these other deals

728
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Speaker 4: got done. But if they wanted to, because you know,

729
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: one of the other parts of the report on ESPN

730
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Speaker 4: was that finally when it came time to have a discussion,

731
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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones told Micah Parsons and his agent because David

732
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Speaker 4: Mulligetta did send an email over to try and quote

733
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 4: unquote one last ditch effort to get something done, and

734
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Speaker 4: Jerry and Steven wrote back and just said, look, either

735
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 4: he's going to play on the fifth year option or

736
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 4: he's going to get traded. And the feeling was that

737
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: the price had jumped so much since when they first

738
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Speaker 4: discuss had the discussion that they were still going based

739
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Speaker 4: on the original discussion back in March, which is like.

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Speaker 3: If that's forty million and you got a heavily backloaded contract,

741
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Speaker 3: that is that is a franchise friendly contract.

742
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Speaker 4: And but it's like that was before Max Crosby got done,

743
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Speaker 4: Miles Garrett got done that he you know, if they

744
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: really it just feels like if they wanted to get

745
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: it done, they would have gotten it.

746
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Speaker 3: Done no matter when Jonas and it feels like that's

747
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: the thing, no matter when it feels like the same

748
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Speaker 3: thing that happened with Mike McCarthy, Like Mike McCarthy, they waited.

749
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Speaker 2: Until the end, waited till the end.

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Speaker 4: Wait, Yeah, I guess we just decided if part ways

751
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: like no, you just you were in discussions to bring

752
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Speaker 4: him back and then it just didn't happen. It just

753
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: it feels like they are entering those dysfunctional organizations that

754
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: we talk about. They're entering those conversations now, the Jets,

755
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: the Panthers, Like it's just it's been a long time

756
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 4: since they won. There's always chaos, and they're just probably

757
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 4: not going to be good, and they just lost their

758
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 4: best player because of shenanigans.

759
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Speaker 3: It seems like I don't really feel like surprises or

760
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: luck play a play a part in being successful in

761
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 3: the league either, Like there is there a chance that

762
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: this team could be a competitive team. Sure it's an

763
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: NFL team, Is it actually feasible to think that they

764
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: could get lucky this year and have a Super Bowl run.

765
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Speaker 3: They could get lucky this year and win the NFC East,

766
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Speaker 3: they get lucky this year and have great success. I

767
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: don't see that I don't see that as being feasible

768
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: doesn't mean it can happen. I don't know what the

769
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Speaker 3: chances of that would be. The odds so that would

770
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Speaker 3: be I just have never really seen a team get

771
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: lucky at being successful when they make dumb ass decisions.

772
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: I've never seen it. I've never seen it happen. But

773
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Speaker 3: maybe they'll be the first ones. Maybe Jerry's the one

774
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Speaker 3: to do it, to change everything up and see things

775
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 3: differently than what like. I guess you can just get

776
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 3: rid of great ballplayers. I mean when we do all

777
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: the things we do to prepare for the draft, and

778
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Speaker 3: you prepare for the offseason for a free agency, I

779
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 3: guess you could say, you know what, Hell, there isn't

780
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: a premium on elite players. We could just do it

781
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 3: with other players, like we'll do it with other guys.

782
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Speaker 3: I guess that's where we're heading with this.

783
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, at least he got paid, so there's that.

784
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Speaker 4: And now he's off to Green Bay and the rest

785
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Speaker 4: is history.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

787
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Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

788
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

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Speaker 4: Right now, we welcome in a Wednesday tradition here on

790
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Speaker 4: the show. He's the one and only Petros Papadakas. He

791
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 4: is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,

792
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Speaker 4: which you can hear on the blowtorch AM five to

793
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: seventy LA Sports. Also a Fox college football analyst fresh

794
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: off double duty this past weekend, and you can get

795
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Speaker 2: How are we feeling? I'm all right, good morning everybody.

797
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Speaker 2: How are you? Good morning? Good?

798
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Speaker 9: I took a melatonin last night, so I'm a little foggy,

799
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Speaker 9: but I'm alright.

800
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Speaker 2: I'm alright, all right, mom here, I'm ready to go.

801
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: Okay. I had a glass of ray of wine and

802
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 3: a little spliffy spliff.

803
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You know what I mean.

804
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: I do as a matter of fact, I do.

805
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, ye like a baby too. So how are you

806
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: feeling after Week one? I jump in there and ask,

807
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: you know, having the double call, seeing what took place,

808
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 3: ranked teams on ranked teams, all that stuff. How did

809
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: you feel about Week one of college football?

810
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 9: I had two games to call, so that was a

812
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 9: lot of it. And I guess the two big stories

813
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 9: in the off season, the ones that we were bludgeoned with,

814
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 9: you know, other than all the crappy news about college

815
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 9: football that we have to deal with with the portal

816
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 9: and the NIL stuff. And I thought that the nil

817
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 9: talk would be over now that the season started, but

818
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Speaker 9: we have Gundy and Dan Lanning going.

819
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Speaker 2: Back and forth, which is a lot of fun.

820
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Speaker 9: But I mean, the big story was what arch Manning,

821
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Speaker 9: who literally looked like Uncle Rico and then saw that

822
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Speaker 9: and then Bill Belichick like those two stories, the two

823
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Speaker 9: biggest stories of the off season. Both those guys came

824
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 9: out and laid like a gigantic egg. So I it's

825
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 9: always interesting, and we always overreact to Week one. And

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Speaker 9: I'm not a quarterback expert, but arch Manning didn't look good.

827
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Speaker 9: I guess I'm more of a quarterback expert than if

828
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Speaker 9: you're not a football analyst. But I'm not a quarterback type,

829
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Speaker 9: as you guys know, so I'm not sure how correctable

830
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 9: a lot of his problems were.

831
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Speaker 2: But he did not look great.

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Speaker 9: And kind of reminded me of when Sarkisian brought in

833
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 9: Nate Montana, Joe Montana's son out an Oaks Christian, and

834
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Speaker 9: he was supposed to be the next end All be All,

835
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Speaker 9: and I think he only started one game. Now, I

836
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Speaker 9: don't think arch Manning is going to be that bad.

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Speaker 9: He's probably no one's ever as bad or as good

838
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Speaker 9: as they look in their first game, but or their

839
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Speaker 9: first starter, or in a real adverse situation like that.

840
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Speaker 2: And that was a very adverse situation.

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Speaker 9: And then the Belichick thing was really interesting because everybody

842
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 9: was ready to anoint him after the first drive.

843
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: On Winter.

844
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Speaker 9: They got blown up by Sunny Dyke's team. So that

845
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Speaker 9: part of it I thought was there's always great stories,

846
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 9: it's always fun, it's always chaotic. I'm always grateful to

847
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 9: have the games back so we have something to talk

848
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 9: about that's not as unsavory as other things that we

849
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 9: talk about, like I'm in Love with a stripper.

850
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: Or slow balls rap career.

851
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Speaker 9: But just from Afar, everything looked like a lot of fun,

852
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 9: a lot of fanfare, a lot of a lot of

853
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 9: what we like about college football. I was an East

854
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 9: Lansing and it was beautiful weather, and all the kids

855
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 9: were back in school and the stadium was full, and

856
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 9: there was a lot of exuberance and excitement. I mean,

857
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 9: what more could we ask for if you enjoyed the sport.

858
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 9: So I did enjoy Week one, but I thought it

859
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 9: was kind of ironic that we wasted all that air

860
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 9: on two things that just absolutely flopped right off the bat.

861
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Speaker 9: Which isn't to say that that will be you know

862
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 9: how it is, and we all understand if you're inside

863
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 9: the sport, we all understand what week one is and

864
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Speaker 9: what an overreaction to something really really good or really

865
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Speaker 9: really bad is. But at the same time, he arch

866
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Speaker 9: Manning looked really bad and so did unc. So I

867
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Speaker 9: guess those were my two bigger takeaways other than the

868
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Speaker 9: fact that I'm grateful to have the sport back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Why do you think people tend to few

870
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Speaker 7: the negative? Like I went back watched every play and

871
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 7: did arch miss some throws? Yeah, he probably missed three

872
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 7: or four. He made some good throws that didn't really

873
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 7: get any credit for. And the one thing I'd say

874
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 7: is like there was nowhere to go with the football.

875
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 7: I mean, there was nowhere for him to run. It

876
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 7: seemed very evident that Matt Patricia had coached the defensive

877
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 7: front up that if you couldn't get a sack on him,

878
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 7: just collapse the pocket around him, but don't let him out, like, don't.

879
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: Let him get his legs involved.

880
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 7: And he seemed to be very uncomfortable and like out

881
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 7: of rhythm because of that. Like there's times where we

882
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 7: were down there on the field watching him and you

883
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 7: could tell he wanted to try to get out of

884
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 7: the pocket, like he couldn't see you know, they were

885
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 7: like there wasn't really a lane for him. And I

886
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 7: know there's some mechanical things too. He had some bad

887
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 7: fool work, not addressing throws, But you know, for the

888
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 7: most part, Like why do you feel like we always

889
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 7: tend to focus on the negative with arch as opposed

890
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 7: to like, hey, maybe this Ohio State defense is really

891
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 7: damn good, Like maybe they might be the best in

892
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 7: the country right now.

893
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 9: Well, because we didn't spend all off season talking about

894
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 9: the Ohio State defense, Like I didn't wake up every

895
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 9: morning and eat an Ohio State defense sandwich.

896
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: He had some manning sandwich. Is that what you have? Dry?

897
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, really, that's we've been force fed. I'm

898
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 9: not saying it's fair, Brady. I mean, guys play quarterback

899
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 9: because they want to get a lot of credit, but

900
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 9: they also get a lot of blame. You know, I

901
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 9: mean the quarterback situation is what we focus on. Everybody

902
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 9: talks about that kid. We talked about that kid. Look,

903
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 9: we saw him in that spring game and he didn't

904
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 9: look like he could throw two years ago. And then

905
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 9: it was like, no, no, he's going to be better.

906
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 9: He's developing, and everybody talked and talked and talked their

907
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 9: way into it, and he could be the greatest thing

908
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 9: since sliced bread as he develops. And yeah, Ohio States

909
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 9: defense was great, and yeah, they stifled him.

910
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: But there's also.

911
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 9: Kind of an element of It's sort of like getting

912
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 9: a punt blocked, Right, You get one punt blocked, and

913
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 9: everybody sees how you got it blocked, and they start

914
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 9: scheming against you. And now, I mean, now there's a

915
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 9: tape against arch Manning playing against maybe a great defense,

916
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 9: certainly a lot better defense than Louisiana Monroe his last start,

917
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 9: and there's a blueprint out there as well. He stayed

918
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 9: before that, right, Yeah, I don't know how many he started.

919
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: He's sort of two games.

920
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 7: And that's here's the only thing I'd say, not not

921
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 7: to go back against you, but like I watched the

922
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 7: tape last year, like it's not like he doesn't have

923
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 7: tools and tangibles and stuff. I remember seeing him throw

924
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 7: in practice when quinn Ewers was hurt and he was

925
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 7: there as a freshman, and I was like, oh, like.

926
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: He's he's got it, like he can do it. So,

927
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: you know, like I talked to some of the program.

928
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 7: I told these guys that it sounds like he's got

929
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 7: a banged up shoulder that he was playing through. So

930
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 7: I'm not sure they didn't want it to get out.

931
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure they went he was throwing it like

932
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: Uncle Rico.

933
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, there is some concert a little bit. Yeah, like

934
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 7: that is there's he's going through some pain and he

935
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 7: was only fifty percent. But again, like he was out

936
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 7: there playing, so you can't really make the excuse once

937
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 7: you crossed that line. But I'm just saying, like, I

938
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 7: feel like, do we have to we have to write

939
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 7: the story on him after one game?

940
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: Like no, oh, no, I'm not trying to.

941
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, I mean, he asked me what my

942
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 9: takeaway was, and my takeaway was the first, the first

943
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 9: thing that we were told and the last thing that

944
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 9: we were told was about arch Manning, and then right

945
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 9: after that was about Bill Belichick, and both of those

946
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 9: things did not perform well for whatever reason. And you know,

947
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 9: of course, ball is a lot more people than just one,

948
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 9: and we can name all their names and look at

949
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 9: the depth chart and go through all that, but it's

950
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 9: I mean, to me, that was the takeaway that you

951
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 9: just can't trust the offseason storylines.

952
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: They're usually misleading.

953
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 9: Which is not to say that all of these guys

954
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 9: aren't going to have a great year, but it certainly

955
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 9: didn't look good in week one, and as you know,

956
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 9: if you fall apart in week one, it takes I

957
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 9: don't know weeks of equity of doing well again to

958
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 9: get everybody's attention again.

959
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: So we'll see. I'm not saying any of it is fair.

960
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 9: I'm not a quarterback expert, but the guy didn't look

961
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 9: good and neither did Texas overall.

962
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: As an offense.

963
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 9: Steve Sarkisium is supposed to be a master play caller

964
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 9: and be able to figure that stuff out, which is

965
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 9: why he makes, you know, tens of millions of dollars,

966
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 9: and they didn't. They were not able to figure it out,

967
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 9: which is fine. I mean, it's not the end of

968
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 9: the world. When we talked to Steve Sarkisian whatever. At

969
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 9: the seminar, he was talking about how there's an immense

970
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 9: amount of pressure on the young man, but you know

971
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 9: this is all generated from within as well. So that

972
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 9: was my takeaway that both of those big entities that

973
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 9: we were hammered with did not end up standing up

974
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 9: as a structure.

975
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 4: Petros, Could it have gone worse for Nico Imalava.

976
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's another storyline, you know.

977
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 9: I mean that would have been the third rights, that

978
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 9: was the third storyline runner up to talk to right

979
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 9: of the year that you know, we had arch Manage

980
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 9: going to be great, Chapel Bill and his girlfriend, and

981
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 9: Nico Iamalaiava and the number one quarterback in the transfer portal, well,

982
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 9: the number one quarterback on the transfer portal last.

983
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 2: Year didn't perform that well either, and that would have.

984
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 9: Been Aidan Shiles, who looked better against Western Michigan, but

985
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 9: you look more inconsistent like he was last year in

986
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 9: the second half.

987
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: Now you know they were winning the game and dominating

988
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: and all that.

989
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 9: So I don't know what the takeaway there is because

990
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 9: it's only week one, Like we're saying, you can overreact, but.

991
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 2: They didn't. They didn't look good.

992
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: Utah out of the gates is kind of a rough

993
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 4: draw now, even though they're not ranked at the time,

994
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 4: like that.

995
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 9: I mean, your Ucla you know, we can't play Utah

996
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 9: right off the bat, Like what are we talking about? Like,

997
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 9: come on, UCLA football is supposed to be something I

998
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 9: know it's not, but it's supposed to be and it's

999
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 9: it's it's difficult to say, oh my god, well they

1000
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 9: had to play Utah. It's like geez, Utah is very good.

1001
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 9: They're well coached. They're a program with an identity. And

1002
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 9: if you don't have an identity and you don't know

1003
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 9: what you're doing, which is what it looked like defensively,

1004
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 9: then you're going to get exposed. One of the things

1005
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 9: that stood out to me was everybody talked about how

1006
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 9: great this offensive coordinator, Tino Cinceri from Indiana was going

1007
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 9: to be, and what a great night tell he was, Yeah,

1008
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 9: the Italian American, and what a mix he would be

1009
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 9: with h with the great Nico Iomliava, and how good

1010
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 9: the UCLA offense is going to be. I mean, this

1011
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 9: guy wasn't even the play caller. This was his first

1012
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 9: year calling plays. He was a co offensive coordinator. At Indiana,

1013
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 9: but the play caller still there from what I understand,

1014
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 9: And this guy came out here, So I'm not saying

1015
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 9: he's going to be good or bad, but I mean

1016
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 9: we're told all this stuff in the offseason and then

1017
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 9: you put it into practice and it looks completely different.

1018
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: Now. Is Leek Nico a good quarterback? Yeah, he's good.

1019
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 9: He's talented kid, and I'm sure that he'll write the

1020
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 9: ship and they'll get it together.

1021
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 8: Uh.

1022
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 9: UCLA was worse last year and got better as the

1023
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 9: season went on.

1024
00:50:59,360 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 12: Uh.

1025
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 9: If they would have beaten USC and made a bowl game,

1026
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 9: people would have been touting Deshaun Foster and they weren't

1027
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 9: that far from it. But you got to look less

1028
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 9: helpless than that at home against Utah in my very

1029
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 9: humble opinion, and they didn't. So I mean that would

1030
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 9: have been the third strike on the off season storylines.

1031
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 9: It's a Belichick, arch Manning and Nico, but apparently it's

1032
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 9: a big Ico that's the nightmare. The dad is a

1033
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 9: real apparently.

1034
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: Well, one big improvement was your alma mater, Southern Cow

1035
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: laying a seventy burger on Missouri State making a statement

1036
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 2: sandwid back take care Missouri break.

1037
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, the USC band put out a The USC band

1038
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 9: put out a tweet or something with like a crying

1039
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 9: face because Notre Dame lost to Miami in a great

1040
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 9: foot game that was courageously scheduled, and that U c

1041
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 9: l A lost to Utah and we just discussed that

1042
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 9: and they're like, look, we put seventy on Missouri State. Okay,

1043
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 9: really I believe that's yeah.

1044
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: I believe that was.

1045
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 9: Murray State's very first game as an FBS team, not

1046
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 9: against an FBS team, but as an FBS team.

1047
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: So I don't think.

1048
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 9: I don't think i'd take too much away from it,

1049
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 9: other than the fact that you go out there and

1050
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 9: you work your stuff and you play in front of

1051
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 9: people and the points they have a They have a

1052
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 9: DJ now at the USC games that drowns out the

1053
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 9: band and is completely insufferable. And I know I'm an

1054
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 9: old man yelling at a cloud, but I think the

1055
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 9: USC the DJ at the USC games is perhaps the

1056
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 9: worst thing in the history of the world.

1057
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you can play a little.

1058
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 9: I'm not mad if you play, you know, MC breed

1059
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 9: or something, but I mean the band is the USC.

1060
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 9: I mean the band has to be the featured thing

1061
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 9: at the football.

1062
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 7: Games, and dude, I would say, next to like as

1063
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 7: much as Tennessee plays Rocky Top Southern col playing that

1064
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 7: and I don't even know what it's called.

1065
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 2: What's the name of the call the mars. Well, there's

1066
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: a couple. There's Conquest, that's conquest, that one that's conquest.

1067
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 2: So you know what, it reminds me that one.

1068
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it reminds me kind of like the music

1069
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 7: you used to hear with Darth Vader, like it was

1070
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 7: Imperial March. Yeah, that's what it reminds me of. And

1071
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 7: I was always like, that's pretty bad. I hate to

1072
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 7: admit that, but oh it is badass.

1073
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 9: I mean, I look, I criticized my alma mater more

1074
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 9: than anybody. But if you're if you walk out of

1075
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 9: that tunnel in the La Memorial Coliseum there it is,

1076
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 9: come on, well that's that's the appearance.

1077
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of that. I was like,

1078
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 2: you gotta play.

1079
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: That's how big college football is in this town. What

1080
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 4: we don't even know what Oregon is. They just play

1081
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 4: shout going into the fourth quarter and everyone's like, you

1082
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 4: know why they play shout? Do you know why they

1083
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 4: play shout why because Animal House was shot at.

1084
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: Oregon shot there. Yeah. Yeah, the dexter Lake Club. You

1085
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: know what loves us? Is that a?

1086
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 7: Is that not a great karaoke song? Like I was

1087
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 7: thinking of my head out if I had to pick one, Yeah,

1088
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 7: if I.

1089
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: Had to pick one though, Yeah, here we go. Now

1090
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: that's one of the drugs.

1091
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, this is the end of the game.

1092
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: That's the fan family.

1093
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 9: Yeahs, you gotta play. You know it's fanfare, right, fanfair

1094
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 9: usc Spirit of Troy Marching Band, Fanfair, and I think

1095
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 9: that's what it is.

1096
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 2: And fan.

1097
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 9: Here we go, Here we go, just a matching Brady

1098
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 9: Quinn warming up, stretching out his cab.

1099
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then Will Ferrell be like, hey, t your

1100
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: pants are too hot. Your pants are too hot? What

1101
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 2: is that? Will Ferrell? Oh?

1102
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 7: Snap, all right, they got movie stars over there.

1103
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: That snoop Dogar. Here we go. Here we can turn it. Oh,

1104
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: here we go? There it is right here. Yeah, that's it,

1105
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: right here. I can get with this. We was waiting

1106
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: for it, this one. We was waiting for it.

1107
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 8: That's hard itself.

1108
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 2: Like Darth Davers do hold his sword.

1109
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 9: You know, it's funny what you mentioned Matt Brady because

1110
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 9: Williams back to throw intercepted.

1111
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: We look got his fingernails, We'll look got him glitzing

1112
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: while he runs off.

1113
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 9: That's a great tech banker's getting pushed very far off

1114
00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 9: the line of scrim.

1115
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 2: Were back on the day student. The contrast is, though,

1116
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: is then you got those cheerleaders.

1117
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 9: That come out and those like nits Bray song girls

1118
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 9: sorry whatever, six or.

1119
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 2: Long poozzo dudes, and freaking uh the Irish Guard. Come

1120
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: get some, come get some?

1121
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 9: Well, by the way the morning to tell you, I

1122
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 9: cheer from Notre Dame, right, lad.

1123
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: The worst part is petros is.

1124
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 7: As you would imagine in today's day and age, they

1125
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 7: no longer have the requirement to be I think it

1126
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 7: was six three or taller. They've gotten rid of that.

1127
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 7: They wanted to be more inclusive.

1128
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: To be a you had to be at least no no, no, no, no.

1129
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 12: No no.

1130
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 7: They're called the Irish Guard.

1131
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the Irish Guards pretty intimidating the way they

1132
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 3: be standing there.

1133
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: And in the end of the d I.

1134
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 9: Do remember having one of our teammates whisper in an

1135
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 9: Irish guard's ear that he was going to pull up

1136
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 9: his skirt.

1137
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: And have his way with him. Tang tang. No, but

1138
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: like that with you out there is going on. You

1139
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: know the song girls other the other city said in

1140
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: that way. No he did not. Okay, curious he said,

1141
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 2: song girls.

1142
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 9: The song girls don't do like flips or anything like that. No, really,

1143
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 9: they just kind of wiggle. Yeah, we don't need to

1144
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 9: they under those sweaters.

1145
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: Coming from Notre Dame.

1146
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 7: Their very distracted to them. Funny, you guys know it was.

1147
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 7: It was a battle to keep certain players.

1148
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: Don't worry. None of those girls Notre Dame have cheerleaders.

1149
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 2: They got the highrisk. I got those dudes, and they

1150
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: have Brady's black Leprechaun where gold.

1151
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, don't be afraid, not be afraid, not be afraid.

1152
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: Special lep can whistle to me.

1153
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 4: He Petres. I did want to commend you. I'm not

1154
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 4: for not for calling two games this past weekend. Couldn't

1155
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 4: be that that was impressive, but just you fighting through

1156
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: the pangs. I know you're going through a lot seeing

1157
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 4: that Kelly Stafford was breaking down how her kids were

1158
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: bullied because of the Matt Stafford trade rumors.

1159
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: You're right about I thought you were.

1160
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 9: Going to be talking about my own personal anxiety problems

1161
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 9: which are prevalent, but compared to Kelly Stafford and what

1162
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 9: she's dealt with. Yeah, you know, I feel bad. You

1163
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 9: know I want to I mean, I want to give

1164
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 9: her my therapist to point kids.

1165
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's just kids and kids and thousand oaks. Yeah.

1166
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, we heard about I mean, we heard about

1167
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: childhood actors getting bullied at school.

1168
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: You know, so it was really bullying. Nothing. Frey Savage

1169
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: used to pull up in a limo and take all

1170
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: our checks every weekend? Did he really that was real bullying? Tang? Uh?

1171
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, I I what does Fred Savage look like today?

1172
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 9: Have little Jewish guy, the guy with a big mole and.

1173
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: Uh we do?

1174
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: Who?

1175
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: Sweet attitude? Oh? That was that song? Yeah? Are those

1176
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: the lyrics? To me? A second? A joke cock recover?

1177
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: That's a Beatles song. It took me a second from

1178
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: my friends. Nobody says what would we do with a

1179
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: good attitude? In that song? I don't know. I made

1180
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: it up. What's the words? I don't know? Would you do?

1181
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: That's all I heard when I said Kelly.

1182
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 9: The Kelly Stafford stuff, it's everything, every little thing in

1183
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 9: the world of football that people might know about. She

1184
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 9: spins into something about herself and it's pretty embarrassing, and then.

1185
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 7: You throw her podcast is for yeah, but otherwise, what's

1186
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 7: the podcast about?

1187
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: How about cancel the podcast? It actually looks exactly the same,

1188
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: like literally looks exactly.

1189
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 9: That's kind of one of the koibles of Child's stardom there,

1190
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 9: uh foibles.

1191
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 2: Uh he was macking all your hose. Huh uh yeah,

1192
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: he macked some of our hose. There is no doubt.

1193
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: Can we roll with that? The headline I spell hose

1194
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: like like go tigers, you know, yeah, absolutely he was

1195
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: macking our head.

1196
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 3: Uh.

1197
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 9: I think when you throw your kids into the story

1198
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 9: and portray him as victims. And this is like the

1199
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 9: third time she's done this. She did it with blue Face,

1200
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 9: and she did it with the Detroit Lione.

1201
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: To really do it with blue Face, don't you remember

1202
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: the blue Face?

1203
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 9: She was like they were in the Sweet Next Tests

1204
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 9: and there carols that their asses at O and he

1205
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 9: was like throwing money at their ass.

1206
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, and then you kind of throw the was

1207
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 3: like mom, we want to go over there and.

1208
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: Tell me about some house. And remember they were like

1209
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: we were victimized.

1210
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 9: We stood in the crowd at the Lion's game and

1211
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 9: we were victimized. You remember that Carissa was like that's right.

1212
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 9: They were were like go away, like you know, you're right, Brady.

1213
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 9: What would she talk about on the podcast?

1214
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought I thought this was the

1215
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: genre that she was going for. I mean, remember her

1216
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: husband can't relate to younger teammates.

1217
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 9: I'm not surprised that his back hurts.

1218
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 2: Some color on that. If I were him, I would

1219
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: have a little bit what what exactly what you mean

1220
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: carrying a heavy load? It feels like he's really got

1221
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: his shoulder to the wheel, if.

1222
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying over there at the house.

1223
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 9: You know, we all have our struggles being in a relationships.

1224
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: Not easy, but it is. I feel that.

1225
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 9: Stafford, Stafford's really he really pulled a real free food.

1226
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 12: Ticket there, tang, real free food. It's a study at

1227
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 12: this point, who did better? Uh Stafford or Archita or

1228
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 12: the cheap oh tang?

1229
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: Who the cheetah? What cheetah?

1230
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 3: I don't know how fast he well, he should be

1231
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 3: running away faster now.

1232
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 2: You Oh he got uh? Oh he got?

1233
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: He got seventeen months he was fleeced in a divorce

1234
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: for seventeen months. Divorce, I mean a marriage seventeen months

1235
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: kill team, Well, I mean absolutely just rampay that that

1236
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 3: the judge is in on it.

1237
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: And he's such a good guy too. I mean, it

1238
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: seems like he's just an interesting guy. You know.

1239
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 9: I like the BBW model that he had sex with,

1240
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 9: and then he was trying to teach her to run

1241
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 9: routes and she blew out her knee.

1242
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: And tried to sue him. Oh god, that's something that

1243
01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: would happen to me. Oh gosh, really blow out her knee. Yeah. Yeah, Actually, these.

1244
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: Girls are getting bbw's and boob jobs. It's saying their

1245
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 3: their you know, their fitness, their fitness consultants, and this.

1246
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 9: Was a big girl, okay, And it's like she shouldn't

1247
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 9: have been running round. She should have been he should

1248
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 9: have been working on past sets time.

1249
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: Zero technique. That's the unfortunate part.

1250
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 9: But yeah, you know it's there's there's been better men

1251
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 9: taken down by worse women.

1252
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: Probably, Okay, but I did see that he was fleeced. Uh.

1253
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 9: I don't know who I'd rather be in this situation.

1254
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 9: Tyreek Hill, who's walking free. Yeah, but he ain't walking free.

1255
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 9: He could he could run that that that that nine

1256
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 9: route a little easier now because he's lighter or Matt Stafford.

1257
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 9: I mean, imagine what a gift it is every morning

1258
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 9: that Matt Stafford wakes up and he knows there's a

1259
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 9: new podcast episode.

1260
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 2: Can't wait to listen. It's like Christmas every day.

1261
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 7: Can I read you the headline, by the way, because

1262
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 7: I'm going to look up this this Tyreek Hill incident

1263
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 7: to stop.

1264
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: This is great? Oh no, this is amazing.

1265
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 7: Tyreek Hill admits he had to satisfy his tall woman

1266
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 7: fetish when he reached out to touch breasts of plus

1267
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 7: size only fans model who claims he broke her leg.

1268
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: That's a huge bit o dag.

1269
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 9: It's like you get a plus sized girl to come

1270
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 9: over to try to satisfy a fetish for yours, and.

1271
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: She blows her leg. Tall woman.

1272
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 9: It's like when a cow walks up the stairs. You

1273
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 9: can't get it back down.

1274
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: You gotta call people in. It's like the mom on

1275
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: what he what's he can give her grape? They couldn't

1276
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: get her down. They just burned the house down.

1277
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,479
Speaker 3: I mean the picture of her on the crutches is wow.

1278
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 3: Cheese man, she's still posing for him for the agy

1279
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: the pictures on the crutches, that's that's, that's o d.

1280
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: Every single everybody knows though, I mean everybody knows he

1281
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: is healthy.

1282
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 9: What a tough life it is in Thousand Oaks, and

1283
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 9: how tough the kids are out there.

1284
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 7: I'm sure it's like our gang and everyone I've known

1285
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 7: that's grown up on Thousand Oaks is soft like pudding

1286
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 7: that it's just Yeah. They used to tell me, like

1287
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 7: there they dodge golf balls. He was saying, like the

1288
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 7: scariest thing they heard was.

1289
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 2: Four dang, you're not ready for the hato five dang. Yeah.

1290
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 9: No, it's tough out there. Yeah, it's evidenced by Kelly Stafford.

1291
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 4: You know that's right, Petros. We appreciate it. Which game

1292
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 4: you got this week? Are you doing a game this time?

1293
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 4: I'm off all right, double duty.

1294
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 9: Next week I'm going to uh uh Logan. Oh yeah yeah,

1295
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 9: Utah State and uh at air Force visiting Utah State,

1296
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 9: So that'll be what.

1297
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: Air Force going to be this year. They beat up

1298
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: buck Now pretty good.

1299
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1300
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: I saw that. They took it to buck Now. Brady

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Speaker 2: Bucknell didn't have a chance. No, no, it was almost

1302
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: like Miss State almost, I'll welcome to the big leagues

1303
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: Ki almost exactly. There's there's a seventy burger. Yeah, here's

1304
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: a seventy burger and a turkey sandwich. Get the FN

1305
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: of our stadium. Time.

1306
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 9: Don't worry. We got Georgia Southern coming into town this week.

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Speaker 2: I know that's gonna be fun. Man, Clay Helton coming back.

1308
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 9: You think Georgia down there, And I did the Georgia

1309
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 9: Southern game at Fresno. You know they're staying and uh,

1310
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 9: they're gonna stay in uh in.

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01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: Aux Greek, Yeah, Nardcore.

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01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 9: They're going to stay in ox Nard at the at

1313
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 9: the Cowboys facility over the weekend. And I asked Clay Helton,

1314
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 9: I said, well, where would you have stayed at ox

1315
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 9: Nart said no, and we'd have had to go to

1316
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 9: Calu in thousand oh yeah. And then he said, you

1317
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 9: know how much you can get bullied in that town?

1318
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Speaker 2: I hope.

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01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 9: But Matt Ans, the Fresno coach, like they tried to

1320
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 9: throw the ball with E. J. Warner early in the game,

1321
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 9: and he started like throwing picks and we had like

1322
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 9: a picture of Kurt and a stand looking a mad

1323
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 9: and then in the second half matt Enz just ran them.

1324
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 2: Over, like ran them over.

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01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 9: They gave up like four hundred yards rushing like he

1326
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 9: ran the picks.

1327
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: Came against Kansas to right that first game.

1328
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he's had some decision making problems.

1329
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: Well that was even before he got to Fresno State.

1330
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: He was throwing a lot of picks.

1331
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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but they got their ass run over.

1332
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Speaker 2: Who wants to get their ass ran They really were physical,

1333
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: took it to us. You think they still got that

1334
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 2: gulf who on campus? No, I don't know.

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Speaker 9: He could maybe take a visit, but will maybe USC

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01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 9: will run the ball at him.

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Speaker 2: We'll see. Yeah, I'd like to see that.

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Speaker 4: Get him on X at the old p Petros Papavegasy

1339
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 4: cos of the Petros and Money show.

1340
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Speaker 2: Which you can hear.

1341
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 4: Hey, Arch will rise again five seven, right sports Petros,

1342
01:07:58,800 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: we appreciate it.

1343
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Speaker 2: Arts will rise again. Yeah,