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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A little girl just two

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Speaker 1: years old bakes dead dies in a scorching hot car

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Speaker 1: while daddy, the doctor's husband, is inside in the air condition,

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Speaker 1: surfing porn and guzzling shotlifted beer. Okay, what I said

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Speaker 1: husband they have money to buy beer, is guzzling shop

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Speaker 1: lifted beer and surfing porn while his two year old daughter,

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Speaker 1: strapped in a car seat facing the sun directly bakes

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: In a shocking incident and Arizona father left his two

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Speaker 2: year old daughter in a car as temperature soared to

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Speaker 2: a deadly one hundred and nine degrees, resulting in a

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Speaker 2: heartbreaking tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Just imagine the heat in Arizona when little Parker is

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Speaker 1: strapped in her car taking a nap for what three

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Speaker 1: four hours while dad claims he's playing games. Turns out

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Speaker 1: he's surfing porn guzzling shotlifted beer. One thing I found

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Speaker 1: very effective when trying cases is to start the case

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Speaker 1: off right, and that is taking the jury to the

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Speaker 1: moment of the incident, whatever that incident might be. With

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Speaker 1: a nine to one one call the real thing, the

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Speaker 1: unvarnished truth, the unadded on fieltered reality. Let's listen.

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Speaker 3: One, what's the address?

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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: My big was in the cars of Okay, hold on

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Speaker 3: in trency in the medical dispatches, Dana Line ook hour.

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Speaker 1: It was when it burns off. I've been checking, my god,

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Speaker 1: she was in the car.

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Speaker 4: Three things, she's on the sponsor okay, and who is.

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Speaker 1: My daughter?

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Speaker 4: My daughter? And this was out in the driveway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Erica Schultz arrives home around four PM and sees

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Speaker 5: husband Chris, and two daughters, ages nine and five, but

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Speaker 5: doesn't see Parker. Chris begins looking in all the rooms

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Speaker 5: of the house, then suddenly runs outside the accurate and

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Speaker 5: the driveways off. The air conditioner is off. The outside

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Speaker 5: temperature is one hundred and nine degrees. Two year old

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Speaker 5: Parker is removed from the vehicle, unresponsive, strapped in her

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Speaker 1: Hold on, because I'm hearing two people speaking to the

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Speaker 1: nine to one one dispatch operator. I hear a man

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Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god. I hear the woman saying,

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Speaker 1: how long has it been? And the man says an hour.

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Speaker 1: The woman says, you didn't have the car on, it was,

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Speaker 1: but it turns off right there. I'm looking down because

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Speaker 1: I'm reading verbat and what was said on that nine

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Speaker 1: one call right there? The dad acknowledges he knows that car,

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Speaker 1: that type of car, that making model, turns off after

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes. The engine turns off and so does the

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Speaker 1: air condition He knew that when he went inside to

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Speaker 1: watch porn. Yeah, listen, she still breathing.

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Speaker 4: No, you're not breathing right now. Okay, we need to

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Speaker 4: start CPR right now. Yeah, we are red. The helpers

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Speaker 4: on the way to you. I need to hear CPR.

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Speaker 4: I need them to count it out for me one two,

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Speaker 4: Tom Okay, Oh my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Christopher Schultz returns home from running errands and realizes his

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Speaker 5: two year old daughter, Parker, is a sleep in her

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Speaker 1: What in the world. Straight out to doctor Bethany Marshall,

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Speaker 1: renowned psycho analy's joining us out of LA. You can

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Speaker 1: see her now on peacock is. She is the author

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Speaker 1: of deal Breaker. She's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Wow,

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Speaker 1: daddy has been living a good life. All he has

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Speaker 1: to do is watch porn and drink beer. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: while mom's out working, she's the doctor. She's making the living. Fine,

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Speaker 1: My mom made a living too. My dad also worked.

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Speaker 1: But all he has to do. But can I see Bethany, please, Bethany,

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Speaker 1: all he has is one job, and granted it's a

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Speaker 1: big job, the most important job. Forget the doctor. The

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Speaker 1: day and day out. That's his job. He has one

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Does he have to clean the house?

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Speaker 1: One job, one thing, and he didn't do it.

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Speaker 7: Nancy, you know I have not treated or evaluated this guy,

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Speaker 7: But if this family was my patient, I would.

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Speaker 1: Wonder a couple of things.

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Speaker 7: First of all, did this guy have children so that

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Speaker 7: They have them to avoid responsibility. What about the shoplifted beer?

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Speaker 7: Is he shoplifting beer because he knows he's not supposed

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Speaker 1: Is going to find out.

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Speaker 7: And then finally that Parnaga financy. You know, pornography addiction

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Speaker 7: is such a problem. When men and sometimes women, but

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Speaker 7: mostly men watch pornography, they try to delay ejaculation as

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Speaker 7: So this guy knew that once he started watching, he

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Speaker 1: Bethday, look at your screen. Right there there is Schulte's

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Speaker 1: aka Doctor's hobby. There he is there, He's got the beer. Whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: whoa what did he go in the bathroom? He went

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Speaker 1: pants and out he goes. Hey, Dave mac joining me,

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Speaker 1: I investigative reporter with crime stories. Dave is the stealing

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Speaker 1: the beer. By the way that videos for our friends

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Speaker 1: every cases we follow on YouTube, Dave is stealing the

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Speaker 1: beer the same day that Parker dies in the car.

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Speaker 5: It is the exact same day.

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Speaker 8: That's how they pulled the surveillance butage and we're.

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Speaker 9: Able to build a timeline for him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that leads me to a whole other thing. You

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Speaker 1: know what, doctor Bethany, let me go to Josh coles Rude,

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Speaker 1: a criminal defense attorney, former assistant US Attorney, and founder

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Speaker 1: of coles Rude Law Offices. That's quite a mouthful. Coals Rude.

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Speaker 1: Let's see him coles Rude. This leads me to where

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Speaker 1: are the children while he's inside shotlifting beer out in

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, the father in this case certainly failed

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Speaker 6: is really look at what's going on with you know,

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 6: So we have somebody who certainly is not good at

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Speaker 1: Now you wait him, excuse me, I think I just

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Speaker 1: I've got him on video going into shoplift beer stuffing

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Speaker 1: just before and you say he's not good? Is that

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Speaker 1: a little bit of an understatement.

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Speaker 10: Yes, you know, not good.

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Speaker 6: He's a failure as a father, and that is true

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Speaker 6: to see for everybody there. It's inexcusable and it's indefensible,

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Speaker 6: you know, having your children in the car, especially when

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Speaker 6: you're shoplifting, it really goes to show not only negligence

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Speaker 6: but criminal conduct.

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Speaker 1: He stole the beer at twelve oh seven. Just imagine

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Speaker 1: stuffing a cold one down your pants. He gets home

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Speaker 1: at twelve fifty three and leaves the daughter in the car,

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Speaker 1: his story. So he takes his beer and goes inside,

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Speaker 10: No, I think that it's not.

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Speaker 6: You know, this isn't a case where a father did

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Speaker 10: That he intended something bad to happen.

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Speaker 6: This was simply a father who was distracted not only

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Speaker 6: through his arrogance.

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Speaker 10: And because of.

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Speaker 6: That, you know, we obviously know the result in this

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Speaker 10: Something that it's not.

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Speaker 6: This is simply a who, through neglect and his own arrogance,

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Speaker 10: Nothing more than that.

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Speaker 1: Let me just clear something up. Erica Wursey is joining

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Speaker 1: Arizona Daily Star at Tucson dot com. Erica, thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us. Erica. We just heard Josh Colesrude

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Speaker 1: stay that this was just a case of dad being negligent. Erica,

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Speaker 1: let me do a lightning round with you so we

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Speaker 1: can establish the actual facts in this case, not the

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Speaker 1: wonderland that Josh Colesrud would like us to believe to

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Speaker 1: enter in and get lost. Erica, Yes, no. Isn't it

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Speaker 1: true that the dad in this case, Chris Schultez, drives

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Speaker 1: home from the liquor store? Correct? Yes, no, then he

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Speaker 1: goes in with his beer, leaving his daughter pictured here

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Speaker 1: to get out. Is that true? Erica wurst Absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: He opens the door of the home, he goes back

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Speaker 1: and he begins to surf porn and drink beer. Right, yes, no, yes,

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Speaker 1: absolutely crime stories with Nancy Grace Cole's rude. You see

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Speaker 1: one intentional act after the next. How are you coming

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Speaker 1: up with the defense of negligence. It just quote happened

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Speaker 1: the next. That's intentional, That is not negligence.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know the way that the case was charged

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Speaker 6: have to prove that intentionally committed the act. And if

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Speaker 6: or intent to cause the death. You certainly see recklessness.

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Speaker 6: That he was aware of the harm and he disregarded

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Speaker 6: the time he realized what happened, unfortunately his daughter had

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Speaker 10: That's not intentional. That is recklessness.

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Speaker 6: And you can see that previous distances where he's done

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Speaker 6: this before. Right, So he was aware of the danger

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Speaker 6: and he disregarded the danger by being on the porn

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Speaker 6: website and playing the PlayStation COLSRD.

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Speaker 1: Do I look like I just fell off the turnip truck.

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Speaker 10: No, you certainly don't, but I do know that you're reasonable.

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Speaker 1: That was a yes and you care about it. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Murder cals rude, That was a yes. No, Col's rude.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it true? Under the law the law presumes we

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Speaker 1: intend the natural consequence of our act. In other words,

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Speaker 1: if I pick up a beautiful, thin, fragile china plate

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Speaker 1: and I throw it to a cement floor, the law

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Speaker 1: presumes that I intend to break it. The law presumes

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Speaker 1: we intend the natural consequence of our act. Isn't that true?

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Speaker 10: I respectfully disagree.

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Speaker 6: You know, context matters, and here what we have is

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Speaker 6: a okay.

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Speaker 1: You want me to read the black and white Arizona

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Speaker 1: law to you. Can you not admit that that is

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Speaker 1: the law in Arizona?

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Speaker 6: There is a different men's raa for every crime on

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Speaker 12: Evident of the fact that he didn't leave his family

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Speaker 1: Abandoned malignant heart is a legal concept known as depraved

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Speaker 1: He wasn't playing with them. He sent them to another

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Speaker 1: So daddy has the other two girls at a trampoline

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Speaker 1: Daddy under suspicion in the death of his two year

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Speaker 5: Listen Filter Scull's nine one one as Erica performs CPR

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Speaker 11: A timer and let's see exactly how hot it gets

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Speaker 1: He's talking about a pet in a parked car, not

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Speaker 1: Mayhem in the Morgue. Doctor Kindle Crowns U Control Room.

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Speaker 1: Could you show me a picture of two year old Parker.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Kindall Crowns, could you explain what happens to a

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Speaker 13: Certainly, so when a child's left in a car that

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Speaker 1: air in the car, but it didn't feel that way.

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Speaker 1: It felt like all the air had been sucked out

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Speaker 1: of the car. How does that happen.

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Speaker 13: It's your body's reaction to the heat, and it's starting

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Speaker 13: to decompensate because of the heat. You're sweating and you're

442
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Speaker 13: slowly becoming dehydrated, and your organs are starting to shut

443
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Speaker 13: down because the elevated temperature eventually would cause you to

444
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Speaker 13: go into multi organ failure and die.

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Speaker 2: Schultez claims he was putting up groceries and got distracted

446
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Speaker 2: playing video games on PlayStation. Investigators find out he was

447
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Speaker 2: drinking beer and watching porn on the internet while his

448
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Speaker 2: older daughters, nine and five are playing nearby.

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Speaker 1: Joining us. Erica Worst, a public safety reporter with the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Daily Star in tusaun dot com Erica. So at

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Speaker 1: the beginning, hey lied. He said that he was putting

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Speaker 1: away groceries and playing PlayStation.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, he said he was home way after he actually

454
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Speaker 14: got home, and that was caught on neighbor's security camera.

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Speaker 14: So she was not in there for thirty to forty

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Speaker 14: five minutes, and they were able to prove that she

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Speaker 14: was in there for hours. Based on his life, which

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Speaker 14: they were absolutely able to prove. We're life well.

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Speaker 2: Christopher Schultez, the father, failed to rescue his daughter from

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Speaker 2: the scorching car reportedly consumed by video games and explicit

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Speaker 2: online content.

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Speaker 1: Police immediately, as you just heard Erica Werced from the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Daily Star in Tucson dot Com report, police were

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Speaker 1: first told and you hear him saying this in the

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Speaker 1: nine one one call. He's already saying this in the

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Speaker 1: nine to one one call that baby Parker was only

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Speaker 1: in the car for minutes minutes, but based on security

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Speaker 1: camp from neighbors videos, their ring cams, or surveillance videos,

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Speaker 1: he was actually in the home for hours and he

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Speaker 1: knew the vehicle cut off. The engine and air go

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Speaker 1: the air conditioner both cut off after thirty minutes.

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Speaker 5: Investigators began creating a timeline. Shelters tells them he got

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Speaker 5: home to thirty pm and Parker was asleep in the car.

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Speaker 5: Surveillance footage shows Sheltas did not arrive home at two

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Speaker 5: thirty as he claims he got home at twelve fifty

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Speaker 5: three pm. Shelts is seen walking into the house and

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Speaker 5: not coming back out again until after his wife gets

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Speaker 5: home at four oh eight pm when Shelters is seen

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Speaker 5: running out.

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Speaker 1: To the car, running but too late. I want you

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Speaker 1: to see daddy. I don't when I compare him to

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Speaker 1: my daddy, he really doesn't deserve that title. Christopher Schultee,

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Speaker 1: speaking on bodycam to police.

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Speaker 10: So any any.

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Speaker 13: Death, they have to treat it like a crime scene.

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Speaker 13: I know this is extremely difficult for you.

487
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Speaker 10: This is a normal process.

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Speaker 13: That you have to follow through with.

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Speaker 10: I don't want you to be blindsided by anything, but

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Speaker 10: that's that's.

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Speaker 13: What's going to be going on for an of the friends.

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Speaker 1: I know, and I know this isn't easy for you.

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Speaker 10: That's that's why I'm trying to be straightforward and honestly you. Okay,

494
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Speaker 10: I don't want to keep any secrets. I don't want

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Speaker 10: to hide anything for you. Someone's going to talk to

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Speaker 10: you about what happened.

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Speaker 4: Then, all right.

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Speaker 1: Quite so, I'm being treated like a murderer. And he

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Speaker 1: starts crying because he's being treated like a murderer. Josh colsrude,

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Speaker 1: don't you hate it when your clients are caught completely

501
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Speaker 1: self absorbed?

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Speaker 6: Well, this is a situation where a father is dealing

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Speaker 6: in grief. I think we can all see that he

504
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Speaker 6: just lost a two year old daughter, and he's reacting

505
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Speaker 6: like somebody.

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Speaker 10: Who loves his child.

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Speaker 6: He's not acting like somebody who intended for this to happen.

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Speaker 6: And you know there is an element here of mercy,

509
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Speaker 6: you know, you know, justice demands accountability, but it also

510
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Speaker 6: demands a dose of mercy. And we're looking at human

511
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Speaker 6: emotion at its most raw form. And you know, what

512
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Speaker 6: would you expect a father to do or act like

513
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Speaker 6: if he lost what you.

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Speaker 1: Mean, the father that's getting himself some cold water out

515
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Speaker 1: of the fridge right there, That father, he probably.

516
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Speaker 6: Doesn't even know that he's doing that. He's lost in grief,

517
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Speaker 6: which is what you would expect for somebody who truly

518
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Speaker 6: loved their daughter. You're not seeing crocodile tears here. You're

519
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Speaker 6: seeing genuine emotion and love for somebody and.

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Speaker 1: Genuinely get himself a glass of cold water on ice

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Speaker 1: side of the fridge after his daughter just thirsted in

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Speaker 1: the heat in the car. Yeah, okay, fill up, and

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Speaker 1: that ain't all. Listen.

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Speaker 2: You will keep.

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Speaker 7: Family, our whole family.

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Speaker 13: So we can't let you do that right now.

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Speaker 3: We have to stand by with you, Okay, as soon

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Speaker 3: as he can't really.

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Speaker 1: Elect you stay in the room if you want under

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Speaker 1: that house.

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Speaker 12: I know this isn't easy for you.

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Speaker 10: But the quicker we get this son in fishelp so s.

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Speaker 13: You can be with your wife, all right, so.

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Speaker 7: I could go with my wife.

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Speaker 10: We're not going to shower anymore.

536
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Speaker 13: Now you need to stand by with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why then crime stories with Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall help me. He's saying, I have to

539
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Speaker 1: get to my wife at the hospital, but first I'm

540
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Speaker 1: going to luxuriate in hot shower. What this isn't fitting

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Speaker 1: together for me? Now, I'm just a trial lawyer. You're

542
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Speaker 1: the shrink. You're the renowned psychoanalyst out of LA. What

543
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: is going on? He's fighting about taking a shower.

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Speaker 7: Parker is not a real person to him. He's stuck

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Speaker 7: her in the car so he could watch pornography while

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Speaker 7: the other girls wore away at a trampoline party. That's

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Speaker 7: what he wanted to do. He itified her, He treated

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Speaker 7: her like she was an it. I have watched all

549
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Speaker 7: the police surveillance and what I noticed he does not

550
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Speaker 7: get upset until they say it's a crime scene. Prior

551
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Speaker 7: to that he looks panicked, not sad. Getting into the

552
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Speaker 7: shower is to kind of pull himself together to go

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Speaker 7: to the hospital. If your baby died, you would be

554
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Speaker 7: rushing out the door. You would be saying to the

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Speaker 7: police officers, take me in the car now, I'm going

556
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Speaker 7: to run to the hospital if you will not put

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Speaker 7: me in the car. He is taking time to pull

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Speaker 7: himself together, which tells.

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Speaker 1: Me that he's a hardish minute. Dr Bethany, I have

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Speaker 1: a question which may bear on what you're saying. Erica

561
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Speaker 1: were joining us Arizona Daily Star. Erica wasn't maybe Parker

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Speaker 1: pronounced dad at the hospital? Yeah, so, Dave Matt Crime

563
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Speaker 1: Stories investigative reporter. Is it possible that he wanted to

564
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Speaker 1: take a shower before Parker had even been declared dead?

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Speaker 9: Nancy, He actually gets a phone call from or a

566
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Speaker 9: text from Erica, and that's when he tells the police,

567
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Speaker 9: my wife wants me at the hospital. I'm guessing based

568
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Speaker 9: on the fact that he didn't start screaming my daughter's dead,

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Speaker 9: he actually is. You know, he says, I got to

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Speaker 9: get a shower, I got to rinse off before I

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Speaker 9: go to my wife at the hospital. I'm need to

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Speaker 9: be there with her.

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Speaker 1: But look at him.

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Speaker 9: He's not focused on anything except himself and the police

575
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Speaker 9: are going he's trying to wash off evidence.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was wondering about the desire to watch

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Speaker 1: Chris McDonough. I've seen it in gunshot cases where the

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Speaker 1: defendant can't wait. He suddenly has to go to the

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Speaker 1: bathroom or take a shower to get that GSR gunshot

580
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Speaker 1: residue off his hands, which you can do really easily

581
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Speaker 1: with tap water. But here I was trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out why is he so held bit on taking a shower.

583
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Speaker 1: His wife and daughter are at the hospital. What's with

584
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Speaker 1: the hot shower?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I think Dave maybe onto something here. Is there something

587
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Speaker 12: else that we're just not aware of? But he is

588
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Speaker 12: in his mind and talk about malignant intent, right, the

589
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Speaker 12: one question where's Parker at that moment? That guy is

590
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Speaker 12: in a whole different world, and this video shows us

591
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Speaker 12: it's his world, it's not her world.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Doctor Bethany Marshall weighan.

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Speaker 7: Nancy act is because he was watching pornography. He could

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Speaker 7: have lubricant all over himself and he's trying to clean

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Speaker 7: himself up because the evidence in this case would not

596
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Speaker 7: be gun shot residue. It would be evidence that he's masturbating.

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Speaker 1: While his daughter's in the car.

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Speaker 7: I think that would be the evidence he would want

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Speaker 7: to wash off.

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Speaker 2: The investigators uncovered text messages hinting that this tragic over

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Speaker 2: saying was not an isolated incident, raising questions about a

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Speaker 2: history of.

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Speaker 1: Negligence, joining us an all star panel to make sense

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Speaker 1: of what we know tonight? Do I understand correctly? Dave

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Speaker 1: Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter that Daddy Schultics knew the

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Speaker 1: car would cut off, and he had been warned before

607
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Speaker 1: by his wife not to leave the girls in the car.

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Speaker 1: And we hear Mommy saying that when she gets home,

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Speaker 1: I told you not to do this.

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Speaker 10: Yes, exactly, Nancy.

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Speaker 8: He knew exactly how long that NBAC stayed on in

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Speaker 8: idle before it was cutting off automatically, and she had

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Speaker 8: continually warned him about leaving the children in the car unattended.

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Speaker 9: This was a regular habit of his, and she warned

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Speaker 9: him not to do it.

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Speaker 1: You know, over and over we learn he knew very

617
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Speaker 1: well not to do this. Look at this text mom

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Speaker 1: sent him. I told you to stop leaving them in

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Speaker 1: the car. How many times have I told you? And

620
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Speaker 1: he says, Babe, I'm sorry, but I want you to

621
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Speaker 1: hear what mommy does in court. He's charged with murder

622
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Speaker 1: and mommy insists the judge let him out on bond,

623
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Speaker 1: says he is a quote good dad and he needs

624
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Speaker 1: to come home out of jail so he can grieve. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm just asking if you can allow him to come

626
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Speaker 1: home to us. This was a big mistake, and I

627
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Speaker 1: think that this doesn't represent him that from our friends

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Speaker 1: at KVATV and eight fifty seven to two, son Erica

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Speaker 1: Wrest joining us Arizona Daily Star. Is it true that

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Speaker 1: when the judge lets him out on bond, he goes

631
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Speaker 1: with the family on a vacation to Hawaii? Is that true?

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Speaker 14: Is one of the.

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Speaker 1: Weirdest things, jos Coles, Rude, How's that going to look

634
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Speaker 1: to a jury that mommy goes in front of a

635
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Speaker 1: judge and begs for a lower bond so he can

636
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Speaker 1: come out and grieve. And what he grieves at the

637
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: big island on the beach with one of those big

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Speaker 1: drinks in a pineapple, Well, I.

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Speaker 6: Think it says a lot about the victims in this case.

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Speaker 10: And the mother is a.

641
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Speaker 6: Victim, and she's the next of kin, and she's grieving,

642
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Speaker 6: and she understands the context in which this happened, and

643
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Speaker 6: she knows her husband and she knows that he's not

644
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Speaker 6: a danger to her family anymore, and she wants to

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Speaker 6: forgive him. And the judge saw it the same way and.

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Speaker 1: Rules, Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. You're talking

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Speaker 1: Christy talk, doctor Bethony Marshall. Can't she forgive him while

648
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Speaker 1: he's in jail? Does he have to be forgiven? On

649
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Speaker 1: the beach at the Big Island.

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Speaker 7: You know Nancy on the bodycamp. You see her comforting him,

651
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Speaker 7: very calmly. It's the same woman. It's the doctor mother.

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Speaker 7: You can tell by the tattoos on her arms. And

653
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Speaker 7: she's calmly saying it's okay, babe, something that extent. So

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Speaker 7: she is more concerned about him than she is about

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Speaker 7: the baby. It's very, very perplexing, Nancy. She's an anesthesiologist,

656
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Speaker 7: you know what that means. She her profession is keeping

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Speaker 7: people alive while under surgery. She knows that these kids

658
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 7: have been left in the car. She knows the risk

659
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 7: to them. She may be one of these mothers. Again,

660
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 7: I've never treated or evaluated her, who is more bonded

661
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 7: with the father with the love object than with her

662
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 7: own children.

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Speaker 1: Shockingly, the hubby slash dad turns down a sweet heart

664
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: deal for maximum ten years. He would probably have been

665
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: out on in about five years. I don't know why

666
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: the yests of children are treated differently than deaths of adults.

667
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: Why did he turn down the deal because the judge

668
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: gutted the state's evidence.

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00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 5: Listen, Shelton's face is a first degree murder trial, and

670
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: the prosecutors intend to introduce evidence of Shelton's porn surge

671
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 5: at trial, but the request was denied by Judge Kimberly Ortiz.

672
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 5: The judge decided the state is precluded from any eliciting

673
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 5: testimony in its case in chief regarding the defendant looking

674
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 5: for pornography on PlayStation before his daughter's body is discovered.

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00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: Well, thanks, judge. By doing that, you gutted the state's case,

676
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: showing his course of conduct, frame of mind, his motivation

677
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: at the time the child was killed. Did that really happen?

678
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: Dave Mack? The judge ruled out any evidence of pornsurfing.

679
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 15: Absolutely, Nancy, and this is something that shocked everyone involved

680
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 15: in the case.

681
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Speaker 10: That the judge said, you.

682
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 9: Can't let anything in about it. You can't let anybody

683
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 9: talk about it. This is off the table.

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00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: Take a look at this bodycam video. Parker has been

685
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: brought into the home and you see everyone there. It

686
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: looks like some of the police know that Parker is dying,

687
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: while one person a minister CPR. In the end, Daves

688
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: mac as he approaches trial after he's turned out a

689
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: sweet heart deal, he suddenly pleads guilty when he looks

690
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: at the evidence against him. What's the sentence?

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Speaker 10: Fancy?

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00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 15: The sentence comes out as a flat time sentence of

693
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 15: twenty to thirty years without parole and with the sentences

694
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 15: for the various charges to run consecutively.

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00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Shulti now facing a sentencing range of twenty to thirty

696
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: years flat time. What does that mean? Will he get

697
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: out early? Will there be a sudden turn of events

698
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: like there have been in the past, And what if

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Speaker 1: any duty does Mommy face? We wait as justice unfolds,

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Speaker 1: and we remember an American hero, Lieutenant Albert Stout, Robstown Police, Texas,

701
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: killed in the line of duty after thirty one years

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00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: on the force, leaving behind his wife and three children.

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Speaker 1: American hero Lieutenant Albert Stout, Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,