WEBVTT - A Murder Involving One Of Our Own 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:17.599 Crime and hello social salutes, Internet detectives, crime junkies, welcome 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.760 back to Real Time Crime. I'm one of your host 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.720 Lea Lamar, and I have with me my wonderful co host, 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:27.160 Teddy Melanki, and of course our producer who we let 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:33.360 speak sometimes, Dmitri Pappas. Now is not one of those times. Today. 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:36.040 We're gonna be discussing the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict, a few 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:40.400 Thanksgiving related cases because happy Thanksgiving everyone, and the use 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.159 of a cobra to cover up a murder, and one 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.520 case very close to Teddy's heart, and I'll let Teddy 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.839 speak to that case, but we will be covering that 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:55.480 recent tragedy as well, and Teddy, Dmitri Happy Thanksgiving. I 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.880 hope you guys have plans. I'm not going home for 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.400 Thanksgiving this year because while I love my only I 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:06.959 don't want to commit murder. God, this is being like 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.800 I said, I don't want to So, yeah, you know 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.040 she's being polite to them. You don't want to have 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:14.800 to go there? No, I don't want to be the 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.440 subject of one of our episodes. Does this mean you're 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:22.640 looking for someplace to spend Thanksgiving? Teddy? Um, are you 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.960 wanting to come over with all of my kids. I 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.679 was actually looking for some additional help. Yeah, you know, 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:33.840 I think I might make a great babysitter. Um well, 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:39.399 nothing screams the holidays like crying the amount of research doing, 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.960 you know, going into this week, because I feel like 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.800 this week is so high on crime, like more than most. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.400 I really do think it's because people are triggered by 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:52.920 their families and then create crime immediately after spending time 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:59.200 with their family. I mean, in my in my personal opinion, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.120 nothing makes me want to rob a bank more after 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.400 spending twenty minutes with my parents over some asparagus. I 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.600 can't say the thought of me cooking creates more crime 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.079 thoughts in my head or wanting to whenever I want 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.120 to avoid something. I researched crime, so I would imagine 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.800 if I was a criminal person, having the stress of 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.400 the holidays coming up really maybe make me want to 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.280 go for it. I like the thing that calms you 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.840 down is researching crime. I was up to one a 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.079 m last night and I'm like, I can't. Well, it's 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.959 because which gets us into the first case, Which did 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.200 you guys watch Escape from a House of Horror? On 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.800 Diane sawyer about the Turpin sisters. Yes, I one, there 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:46.880 was thirteen kids in a home, their entire life shackled 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:52.320 to their beds, abused, malnourished, never knew the outside world. 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.600 The only way that they started realizing the outside world 0:02:55.639 --> 0:03:00.960 was through Justin Bieber, by the way like hate giving 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.079 him any more credit than he's already gotten. But but 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.080 Jordan was saying that, you know, she finally got access 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.760 to a phone and she started watching Justin Bieber and 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.400 seeing that, like her life wasn't normal because she had 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.840 absolutely no idea that the life, the hell that she 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.640 was living in was regular life. I mean, it's just 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:22.600 such a heartbreaking story. And you know, they planned for 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.680 two years to figure out a way to escape, but like, 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.040 she had never been outside, so she didn't even know 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.440 how to get to a place to call nine one. 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.000 And the only way that she knew to call nine 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.160 one one is from watching cops on television, so she 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.400 knew the number nine one one, she didn't know how 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.200 to tell her address. I mean, the whole nine one 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:45.720 one call is heartbreaking. But thankfully they came in and 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.080 they you know, searched the house, they saw one of 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.920 the kids. They actually left chained to his bed because 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:54.920 they couldn't get it off in time by the time 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.920 that the cops had gotten there. And the story is 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.920 just I mean, the squalor and we're living in It 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.760 was so heartbreaking. You just can't like, why would somebody 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.800 like that? Why would parents? Why would you want to 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.680 have kids and yet thirteen to treat them this way? 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:15.000 And you know, then finally the parents get arrested, detained, 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.120 and then the kids go into the system and then 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:22.400 their their systems flawed, and you know, hundreds of thousands 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.560 of dollars were donated to a trust for them, and 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.960 then they bring back the information about how the person 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.120 in charge of them wasn't actually just telling them to 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.120 google things to figure it out. I mean, it's just 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.960 such a heartbreaking story. Sorry I went on like a 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.280 full tangent about it, but I just couldn't believe it 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:42.120 seeing how well spoken those girls were in that interview 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:47.039 and how strong they are. I mean, thirteen children. God, 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.120 it's so wild. I mean, if I have a Baker's 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:53.040 dozen't of anything, it's going to be donuts. But I 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:59.440 mean reading the articles, yes, reading is not one of 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:04.200 those times. Reading the articles about this where she crawled 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.400 out of the window, and she knew that she couldn't 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.200 get anything wrong, and that she was so frightened to 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:12.960 speak to the police, and she said that this was 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.120 the most terrifying things she'd ever done, was saving the 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:19.960 lives of all of her siblings, and that some of 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.240 the children they were arranged two to twenty nine. And 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.920 I think the toddler was the only one who wasn't abused, 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:32.080 and some of the older child, well, adults were uh infantilized, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.280 and a lot of them never grew properly because they 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.839 were malnourished. So one of the adults actually had an 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.440 arm that was the size of a child arm because 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.960 they were so severely malnourished. And they thought that they 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.559 were all kids, but they were covered in dust and dirt. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.719 They weren't allowed to go to the bathroom sometimes, I mean, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.039 and and the police made her show photo and video 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:57.240 evidence of what was going on inside the house, and 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.080 the there's a heartbreaking part of me that wonders if 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.920 they didn't believe her at first until they saw the 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.800 photos and videos. But I think the thing that also 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.400 is just so disturbing to me, besides all the like 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.320 decay and garbage and the molding food and the horrible 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.080 smells that they were living in hell. So I think 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:19.000 they were freed in and then had to go back 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:25.800 into isolation for the pandemic in after only having you know, 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.520 essentially two years of freedom to the outside world. And 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.320 the sad part was they said that they were so 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.800 used to it already. Yeah, and they don't even they 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.440 didn't even know what abuse was, like they're just starting 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.960 to figure it out. And I mean it's just and 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:46.000 watching the parents in the courtroom like crying and pretending 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.279 like they're so devastated about it that they're gonna get forgiveness, 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.520 Like this didn't happen one time. You did this thirteen 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.240 times over. This wasn't a mistake you made that once 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:00.359 we lost your timber. No, you abused thirteen chill drink 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.640 mal nurished them, starve them, chain them, tortured them, and 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.000 now you want forgiveness. I I really I have no 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.840 empathy for those two. No, twenty five years to life 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.640 for both of them was a sentence, and I plucked. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.880 The mom was so like when the cops arrested her, 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.480 she goes, oh, is this when they said that you 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.680 had left one of the chains on and she goes, oh, 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.640 is this what that's this is all about? No, lady, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:34.200 It's like, are you I mean, it was absolutely delusional. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.760 But I know we can't spend too much time on this, 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:39.800 but you guys should definitely go watch it. I would, 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.680 you know. I hope so many amazing things happen for 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.320 these kids that they're taking care of now, that this 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.760 will shed light on the continued abuse that they've had 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:54.200 once they've gone into the system. Um, because it's just heartbreaking, 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.600 so heartbreaking, and Jordan is so well spoken, I know, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:03.400 and yeah she's she's so poised and elegant and alive 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:09.960 for someone who could just feel dejected and could just 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.320 feel so run down from her circumstances, and yet she's 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.840 so put together and and full of life and good 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.200 things are ahead for her. I can feel it too. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.840 But now we have another, you know, tragic, horrific thing 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:30.520 that happened with the mass robberies at at Nordstrums, and 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.760 that the most more coming in I have an alibi. 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.199 That's the first thing I thought when I heard. I 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.520 was like, what have you done? Yeah, this is not 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.520 a new sweater. I've had this for years. I mean, 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.000 but between that and I know that I'm going off topic, 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:47.520 but I want to cover both because I know that 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.840 we have somebody in the waiting room. But between that 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.920 and the Christmas prede attack, which I have a question 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:55.680 for you guys. In the Christmas parade attack, it's five dead, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:09:00.560 forty injured. Do you guys think it's hied to the 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.720 Kyle rittenhouse case because a lot of people are saying 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.760 online that it was only an hour from Kenosha. This 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:15.120 is retaliation because he was let off. That's interesting. I 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.000 did see a headline that said he may have been 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.800 fleeing from something else, from like a knife fight or something, 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.600 and he may have been fleeing from that and drove 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.840 into that. So whether that was premeditated or not, I 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.319 don't know yet, but that's I had heard that. Yeah, 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.400 it's Teddy. Teddy, you're very good at connecting the dots 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:37.360 between cases. Well you know, no, this is the this 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.240 is the third time you've done this where you just 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.160 make parallels to cases that I didn't think we're connected, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.760 And well it's not actually me, it's I'm just the 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.920 people that I follow are really excellent at it, and 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.839 like I've been seeing the ties and then it kind 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.640 of makes sense. But the FBI is going to knock 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.960 on your door soon and see if you'll enlist. They're 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.600 also going to confiscate those stacks of notebooks you've been 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:08.959 writing in what I can't guys, it's a problem. But um, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:10.720 do we want to cover anything else or take a 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.160 break and then bring Natalie in. Look, I think we 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.720 we were a little um. We just thought we could 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.920 cover a lot today and cover her one last thing 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.719 because this is a nice reminder to all parents. Are 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.720 really anybody about drinking during the holidays. If you guys 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.960 remember Amy Locane, she was in cry Baby, she was 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.200 in Melrose Place. She actually got let go from Melrose 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.439 Place for having like a bad attitude, and then she 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.240 did a couple additional movies. I mean, she was beautiful. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:45.840 I loved her as an actress. Um and a while 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.840 back she was drinking and driving apparently not a ton 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.840 but like just was in a play, started drinking, you know, 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:57.640 drink and then drove home and ended up murdering somebody 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:02.480 running them over. Got arrest did got sentenced, and then 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:07.920 served her time, got out of jail, found God, started rehabilitating, 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.920 started speaking in schools, got reunited with her children. All 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.520 of these things happened, and then all of a sudden, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:19.080 they re sentenced her to eight more years in prison. 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.040 So people are coming forward and saying, how can you 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:27.600 do that? This is unheard of, this has never happened before. Um, 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.760 but what I took from this was not Yes, that 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.640 is so heartbreaking that it happened in the first place. 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.760 She's a mother, she has kids, she got out of 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.800 jail the first time, her husband had filed for divorce, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.160 and she had just reunited with her children. She did 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.920 all the work, she was better, and then she was 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.559 back in again, which people are saying school unusual punishment, 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.920 But I think it's a nice reminder to everyone while 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.199 you're spending time with your family during the holidays, just 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.880 don't drink and drive, Like, just don't drink and drive, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:03.200 even a drink. I mean, people have teased me about it, 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.760 but like, I made a deal with my dad when 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.160 I was younger that if I ever drank and drove 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:08.959 and got a d UI, that I'd have to move 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.839 back to Indiana, and I have not since. So like 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.760 it's just so that's enough to scare you straight. Yeah, 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.480 but yeah, I know, but you guys have to look 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.439 that up too. But let's take a little break and 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:38.160 then we'll bring that on. Sounds good, All right? Everyone, 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.120 Welcome back to Real Time Crime with Leo Lamar, Teddy 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.720 Mellon Camp and Dmitri Pappas. Sometimes we have a very 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.320 special guest with us today. This is Natalie Weaver. She 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.280 is Teddy's social media assistant and she runs all of 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:58.360 Teddy's socials. This is a case that is currently ongoing 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:04.520 and it happened on November when Natalie's father, Chad Reid, 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.400 was shot and killed by Kyle Caruth, who is known 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:12.840 for having high profile ties in LOVECK Texas. Natalie, thank 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.000 you so much for joining us. Do you mind just 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:20.480 kind of giving everybody the like what actually went down? Yeah? 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:26.319 Absolutely so. Um, my mom m got married two months 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.040 ago to this guy named Chad Reid. Love him. Um, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.199 we all say that he they were each other's loves, 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:36.200 of each other's lives. Um. So, Chad has been in 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.719 a custody battle with his ex wife, Christina. Um. They 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.840 got a divorce about five years ago. Um, but things 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:45.680 kind of escalated when he started dating my mom. She 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.480 kind of got jealous and just started kind of being 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.920 more of a pain and not letting him see his kids. Um. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.640 So he's kind of been fighting for more time with 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:58.840 his kids, x Y and z. Um. He so she 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.080 was claiming that there was in adelity because my mom 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.680 was married um last year. Her divorce was finalized last year. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.400 So he actually was trying to get ahold of an 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.520 Marie that morning. UM. And I don't really know if 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.640 they had a conversation or not. I'm not quite sure. Um. 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.199 But anyway, Friday was his day to have his kids. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.160 He gets to pick them up from school, um, which 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.440 is usually lets out about three fifteen, three thirty. Um. 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.560 But she kept Colton home from school that day because 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.120 he was sick. So she said she was taking him 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.600 to the doctor, which is why he didn't just go 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.080 to school and pick him up. So, UM, four o'clock 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.440 rules around and he's like, Hey, I'm coming to pick 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.240 up Colton. Where is he? And she's like, i'll be 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.160 home at six, you can get him. Then Chad's like, no, 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.360 it's my time. Just tell me where you're at. On 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:46.840 welcome get him. He's like no, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.440 hold him until six. I'll be home then. So he's like, 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.640 where are you and she's like, I'm at work. And 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.480 so he was driving down and like it's her work, 0:14:55.760 --> 0:15:00.480 is Kyle's work, and they've been working from his parents house. Um, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.160 I don't think they're living there. I think he's been 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.120 living there and working there. Um. So they were driving by. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.440 Chad was like, I'm just gonna stop and see Colton's here. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.880 So he pulls up and um, Christina and Kyle were 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.120 outside on the porch, and so he got out of 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:20.720 the car and um, yeah, confronted Christina and things just 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.760 kind of took a turn. And what would by taking 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.680 a turn for the worst when he was in the car, 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.040 he was not alone. Correct, When Chad was in the 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:34.040 car driving, there no no correct My mom and my 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.400 eleven year old brother when the car with him. Now, 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.080 when you say you can see this, you're there's a 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.400 video that there's a video of the altercation. Oh yes, 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.760 so sorry. My mom was recording the entire thing. Um 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.080 so because of the custody battle, her attorney had instructed 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.120 her to record the conversations between chat and Christina because 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:57.880 she had been lying about everything. Um, saying Chad said this, 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.280 Chad did this, and none of that was true. So 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.800 my mom has since been en every conversation that they've had, 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.680 UM and so that's why she was recording. So, yes, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.480 the entire thing is on video and the cops have access. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.920 They have the video. It's yeah, the cops had the 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.960 video they took so they did not detain Kyle. They 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.280 did not arrest Kyle. He is there's still been no 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.160 arrestmate or anything like that. Um. They took my mom 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.120 and Frankie, Frankie's my eleven year brother. UM. They took 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.960 them to the station and took my mom and Chad's phone. 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.720 So my mom said, I have this video here. It 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.640 is take everything you want. UM. So my Mom's like, 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.360 we have not my mom's phone and they should have 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:44.880 the video. So and but nobody has been arrested. Nope, nope. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.120 So and they just they refused to release his name 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:53.680 until well, they couldn't release his name because he end 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.080 detained or arrested or anything like that. So there, I 0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:00.920 guess legally not allowed to UM. So finally a news 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.080 source here UM connected him because he's going through a 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:08.199 divorce with a Marie, and so they connected the addresses 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.680 to match. So they finally released his name Friday night, 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.119 and so as a family, how are you guys doing? 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.560 And then like, what are the next steps like now 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:25.960 that they've released his name is after and arrest is coming? Um, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:30.040 honestly we don't know. So are our district judge here 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.840 recused herself well from the case, like this is too 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.840 close to home because he's married to a district judge, 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:42.280 So she recused herself health and the Lebbic Police Department 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:46.239 finally like said okay, fine and handed it to our 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.040 a g um. So now our attorney general has all 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:53.240 the information and is supposed to apparently be looking into it. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.600 We haven't heard anything, so we don't know. Currently trying 0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.840 to spread the word and get justice for him because 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.680 it's appalling that he hasn't been arrested. Quick question why, 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.880 Like why do you think if there's video of him 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.800 shooting someone, why do you think he hasn't been arrested 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.840 or detained or brought in for questioning or I'm sure 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.120 there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.920 that we're not seeing. Um, I mean, I I don't 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.240 know what happened when they went to the scene. I 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.280 know that they took my mom and Frankie, but I 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.400 don't know if he was like be careful, I'm married 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.040 to a district judge, watch what you do, or if 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.760 they knew him. I have no idea. It's absolutely insane 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.160 that he has not been arrested. I mean everybody that 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.359 on our end that has seen the video and watched 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.080 the video, even people like are people who are not 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:45.040 even biased in this. They don't even know the backstory, Um, 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:49.000 have seen the video and are just completely appalled that 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:53.320 this guy hasn't been arrested. Um, it was senseless, the 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.879 dumbest thing in the world. Could have never happened. And yeah, 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.520 so and he has a record as well, right, Kyle, Yeah, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.960 m hm, yes he does. Yeah, he has several, um, 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:08.399 which I wasn't aware of until I started doing some research, 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.720 But yeah, he has several arrests and he doesn't He 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:15.080 also around dollars in property taxes and yeah he had 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.200 Marie owns Oes around sixty nine thousand and income taxes. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.480 Sounds about right, So there might just be a larger 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:28.320 case at play. Yeah. Yeah, still interesting to not bring 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:32.000 him in though, I mean, this guy's got well yeah, 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.000 and that's what I said, like, not even to detain him. 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.440 You have seventy two hours to hold somebody without having 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:39.160 to charge them, so, you know, and that's what's frustrating, 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.720 Jess is you know, there was a lot of talk about, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.680 you know, what if they were on drugs, what if 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.399 he was drunk? You know, Now we have no idea 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.679 because they didn't detain him, you know, didn't take his blood, 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.000 didn't do any of that. So and I'm not saying 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.560 that he was, but you never know. So it's frustrating 0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.520 that you wasn't even taken to the station in question 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.360 or detain in or anything. So have you been seeing 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.600 the hashtag justice for Chad trending on Twitter? Yes? Actually 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.520 I have so. UM, Me and my sister actually started that, 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.200 or a lot of people here started. Honestly, there's probably 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.000 a ton of us that started all at once. UM. 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.240 But yeah, that was our first thing is when we 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.439 knew that he hadn't been detained or arrested, we were like, 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.399 we're not doing this. Um. And so mostly my sister 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.800 has been working tirelessly to her TikTok with Varlett's I 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.960 think almost three million views now. Um, and we started 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.040 the hashtag justice for Chad is How does it make 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.639 you feel to see other people using the hashtag? It 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:37.480 gives me hope. UM, I know that there's a lot 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.520 wrong with our justice system, and now it's honestly more 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.240 apparent than ever. UM, So there's a lot of quality 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.159 chicks going on behind the scenes right now. Um, you 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.560 know Governor Abbott and stuff like that. I don't know 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.439 if the AG is up for re election, but I 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.320 kind of heard that that has something to do with it. 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:57.560 So they're kind of trying to play what's best for 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.840 them and what's going to get them re elected. So 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:01.840 it gives me a lot of hope that people who 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:03.960 are not a part of the justice system are paying 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.320 attention to this and um, seeing the issue with this 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.679 and wanting justice as much as we do because we 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:15.920 can't do it alone. So and then what is Chad's 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.240 ex wife? What has her stance been since this happened. 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.960 So Chad actually has two little boys, and so they 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.840 are obviously in custody with her now whole time. My 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.879 mom doesn't have any rights to them, although we're doing 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:33.040 everything we can to get that overturned. UM, But we 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:37.160 have since spoken to them and kept up with them. 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:41.080 Oh my gosh, this is so tragic and so just messy, 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.600 and like, how is your mom doing? How are you 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.840 guys doing? Absolutely horrible if you want the honest truth, 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:52.280 I mean, I I don't wish this upoint anybody, and 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:55.159 I definitely it's really hard, like being a daughter watching 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.720 her go through this. Um. Like I said, my mom 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:03.359 loved him more than anything, and he loved her more 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.919 than anything. And I just, like I said, they got 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.199 married two months ago, and we always joke with my 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:10.760 mom because it's her third marriage, you know, and we 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.680 were like, okay, mom um, but no, they just had 0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:17.680 this pure, true love and just took the best care 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.119 of each other. And I've never in my life seeing 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.280 my mom so happy. Um, So she's not. She's not 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:25.960 doing well at all. And then what about your brother 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:30.280 that had to witness it. Frankie is being super resilient. 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.920 I think I think he's just kind of like trying 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:34.960 to block it out right now. I also think that 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.080 he's like trying to stay strong for mom. Um. So 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:40.240 we've talked about getting him therapy and stuff like that, 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.119 and he's just made comments like I don't want to 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:43.639 talk about it because I don't want to be sad. 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:48.239 Um So I definitely think that obviously. I mean, how 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.720 could you not. I mean, he was there, he saw 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:54.040 everything happened. Um, My mom, you know, got out of 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:57.760 the car and ran over to Chad, and Frankie followed. 0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:01.480 Because my mom wasn't even trying to like she was like, 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:03.760 I didn't even think to tell Frankie to stay in 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:08.160 the car. So yeah, it's just it's horrible. So, I mean, 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:11.000 we're all just completely appalled. I mean, Chad was causing, 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:14.000