Speaker 1: Crime and hello social salutes, Internet detectives, crime junkies, welcome
Speaker 1: back to Real Time Crime. I'm one of your host
Speaker 1: Lea Lamar, and I have with me my wonderful co host,
Speaker 1: Teddy Melanki, and of course our producer who we let
Speaker 1: speak sometimes, Dmitri Pappas. Now is not one of those times. Today.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be discussing the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict, a few
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving related cases because happy Thanksgiving everyone, and the use
Speaker 1: of a cobra to cover up a murder, and one
Speaker 1: case very close to Teddy's heart, and I'll let Teddy
Speaker 1: speak to that case, but we will be covering that
Speaker 1: recent tragedy as well, and Teddy, Dmitri Happy Thanksgiving. I
Speaker 1: hope you guys have plans. I'm not going home for
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving this year because while I love my only I
Speaker 1: don't want to commit murder. God, this is being like
Speaker 1: I said, I don't want to So, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: she's being polite to them. You don't want to have
Speaker 1: to go there? No, I don't want to be the
Speaker 1: subject of one of our episodes. Does this mean you're
Speaker 1: looking for someplace to spend Thanksgiving? Teddy? Um, are you
Speaker 1: wanting to come over with all of my kids. I
Speaker 1: was actually looking for some additional help. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I might make a great babysitter. Um well,
Speaker 1: nothing screams the holidays like crying the amount of research doing,
Speaker 1: you know, going into this week, because I feel like
Speaker 1: this week is so high on crime, like more than most.
Speaker 1: I really do think it's because people are triggered by
Speaker 1: their families and then create crime immediately after spending time
Speaker 1: with their family. I mean, in my in my personal opinion,
Speaker 1: nothing makes me want to rob a bank more after
Speaker 1: spending twenty minutes with my parents over some asparagus. I
Speaker 1: can't say the thought of me cooking creates more crime
Speaker 1: thoughts in my head or wanting to whenever I want
Speaker 1: to avoid something. I researched crime, so I would imagine
Speaker 1: if I was a criminal person, having the stress of
Speaker 1: the holidays coming up really maybe make me want to
Speaker 1: go for it. I like the thing that calms you
Speaker 1: down is researching crime. I was up to one a
Speaker 1: m last night and I'm like, I can't. Well, it's
Speaker 1: because which gets us into the first case, Which did
Speaker 1: you guys watch Escape from a House of Horror? On
Speaker 1: Diane sawyer about the Turpin sisters. Yes, I one, there
Speaker 1: was thirteen kids in a home, their entire life shackled
Speaker 1: to their beds, abused, malnourished, never knew the outside world.
Speaker 1: The only way that they started realizing the outside world
Speaker 1: was through Justin Bieber, by the way like hate giving
Speaker 1: him any more credit than he's already gotten. But but
Speaker 1: Jordan was saying that, you know, she finally got access
Speaker 1: to a phone and she started watching Justin Bieber and
Speaker 1: seeing that, like her life wasn't normal because she had
Speaker 1: absolutely no idea that the life, the hell that she
Speaker 1: was living in was regular life. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: such a heartbreaking story. And you know, they planned for
Speaker 1: two years to figure out a way to escape, but like,
Speaker 1: she had never been outside, so she didn't even know
Speaker 1: how to get to a place to call nine one.
Speaker 1: And the only way that she knew to call nine
Speaker 1: one one is from watching cops on television, so she
Speaker 1: knew the number nine one one, she didn't know how
Speaker 1: to tell her address. I mean, the whole nine one
Speaker 1: one call is heartbreaking. But thankfully they came in and
Speaker 1: they you know, searched the house, they saw one of
Speaker 1: the kids. They actually left chained to his bed because
Speaker 1: they couldn't get it off in time by the time
Speaker 1: that the cops had gotten there. And the story is
Speaker 1: just I mean, the squalor and we're living in It
Speaker 1: was so heartbreaking. You just can't like, why would somebody
Speaker 1: like that? Why would parents? Why would you want to
Speaker 1: have kids and yet thirteen to treat them this way?
Speaker 1: And you know, then finally the parents get arrested, detained,
Speaker 1: and then the kids go into the system and then
Speaker 1: their their systems flawed, and you know, hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars were donated to a trust for them, and
Speaker 1: then they bring back the information about how the person
Speaker 1: in charge of them wasn't actually just telling them to
Speaker 1: google things to figure it out. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: such a heartbreaking story. Sorry I went on like a
Speaker 1: full tangent about it, but I just couldn't believe it
Speaker 1: seeing how well spoken those girls were in that interview
Speaker 1: and how strong they are. I mean, thirteen children. God,
Speaker 1: it's so wild. I mean, if I have a Baker's
Speaker 1: dozen't of anything, it's going to be donuts. But I
Speaker 1: mean reading the articles, yes, reading is not one of
Speaker 1: those times. Reading the articles about this where she crawled
Speaker 1: out of the window, and she knew that she couldn't
Speaker 1: get anything wrong, and that she was so frightened to
Speaker 1: speak to the police, and she said that this was
Speaker 1: the most terrifying things she'd ever done, was saving the
Speaker 1: lives of all of her siblings, and that some of
Speaker 1: the children they were arranged two to twenty nine. And
Speaker 1: I think the toddler was the only one who wasn't abused,
Speaker 1: and some of the older child, well, adults were uh infantilized,
Speaker 1: and a lot of them never grew properly because they
Speaker 1: were malnourished. So one of the adults actually had an
Speaker 1: arm that was the size of a child arm because
Speaker 1: they were so severely malnourished. And they thought that they
Speaker 1: were all kids, but they were covered in dust and dirt.
Speaker 1: They weren't allowed to go to the bathroom sometimes, I mean,
Speaker 1: and and the police made her show photo and video
Speaker 1: evidence of what was going on inside the house, and
Speaker 1: the there's a heartbreaking part of me that wonders if
Speaker 1: they didn't believe her at first until they saw the
Speaker 1: photos and videos. But I think the thing that also
Speaker 1: is just so disturbing to me, besides all the like
Speaker 1: decay and garbage and the molding food and the horrible
Speaker 1: smells that they were living in hell. So I think
Speaker 1: they were freed in and then had to go back
Speaker 1: into isolation for the pandemic in after only having you know,
Speaker 1: essentially two years of freedom to the outside world. And
Speaker 1: the sad part was they said that they were so
Speaker 1: used to it already. Yeah, and they don't even they
Speaker 1: didn't even know what abuse was, like they're just starting
Speaker 1: to figure it out. And I mean it's just and
Speaker 1: watching the parents in the courtroom like crying and pretending
Speaker 1: like they're so devastated about it that they're gonna get forgiveness,
Speaker 1: Like this didn't happen one time. You did this thirteen
Speaker 1: times over. This wasn't a mistake you made that once
Speaker 1: we lost your timber. No, you abused thirteen chill drink
Speaker 1: mal nurished them, starve them, chain them, tortured them, and
Speaker 1: now you want forgiveness. I I really I have no
Speaker 1: empathy for those two. No, twenty five years to life
Speaker 1: for both of them was a sentence, and I plucked.
Speaker 1: The mom was so like when the cops arrested her,
Speaker 1: she goes, oh, is this when they said that you
Speaker 1: had left one of the chains on and she goes, oh,
Speaker 1: is this what that's this is all about? No, lady,
Speaker 1: It's like, are you I mean, it was absolutely delusional.
Speaker 1: But I know we can't spend too much time on this,
Speaker 1: but you guys should definitely go watch it. I would,
Speaker 1: you know. I hope so many amazing things happen for
Speaker 1: these kids that they're taking care of now, that this
Speaker 1: will shed light on the continued abuse that they've had
Speaker 1: once they've gone into the system. Um, because it's just heartbreaking,
Speaker 1: so heartbreaking, and Jordan is so well spoken, I know,
Speaker 1: and yeah she's she's so poised and elegant and alive
Speaker 1: for someone who could just feel dejected and could just
Speaker 1: feel so run down from her circumstances, and yet she's
Speaker 1: so put together and and full of life and good
Speaker 1: things are ahead for her. I can feel it too.
Speaker 1: But now we have another, you know, tragic, horrific thing
Speaker 1: that happened with the mass robberies at at Nordstrums, and
Speaker 1: that the most more coming in I have an alibi.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I thought when I heard. I
Speaker 1: was like, what have you done? Yeah, this is not
Speaker 1: a new sweater. I've had this for years. I mean,
Speaker 1: but between that and I know that I'm going off topic,
Speaker 1: but I want to cover both because I know that
Speaker 1: we have somebody in the waiting room. But between that
Speaker 1: and the Christmas prede attack, which I have a question
Speaker 1: for you guys. In the Christmas parade attack, it's five dead,
Speaker 1: forty injured. Do you guys think it's hied to the
Speaker 1: Kyle rittenhouse case because a lot of people are saying
Speaker 1: online that it was only an hour from Kenosha. This
Speaker 1: is retaliation because he was let off. That's interesting. I
Speaker 1: did see a headline that said he may have been
Speaker 1: fleeing from something else, from like a knife fight or something,
Speaker 1: and he may have been fleeing from that and drove
Speaker 1: into that. So whether that was premeditated or not, I
Speaker 1: don't know yet, but that's I had heard that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Teddy. Teddy, you're very good at connecting the dots
Speaker 1: between cases. Well you know, no, this is the this
Speaker 1: is the third time you've done this where you just
Speaker 1: make parallels to cases that I didn't think we're connected,
Speaker 1: And well it's not actually me, it's I'm just the
Speaker 1: people that I follow are really excellent at it, and
Speaker 1: like I've been seeing the ties and then it kind
Speaker 1: of makes sense. But the FBI is going to knock
Speaker 1: on your door soon and see if you'll enlist. They're
Speaker 1: also going to confiscate those stacks of notebooks you've been
Speaker 1: writing in what I can't guys, it's a problem. But um,
Speaker 1: do we want to cover anything else or take a
Speaker 1: break and then bring Natalie in. Look, I think we
Speaker 1: we were a little um. We just thought we could
Speaker 1: cover a lot today and cover her one last thing
Speaker 1: because this is a nice reminder to all parents. Are
Speaker 1: really anybody about drinking during the holidays. If you guys
Speaker 1: remember Amy Locane, she was in cry Baby, she was
Speaker 1: in Melrose Place. She actually got let go from Melrose
Speaker 1: Place for having like a bad attitude, and then she
Speaker 1: did a couple additional movies. I mean, she was beautiful.
Speaker 1: I loved her as an actress. Um and a while
Speaker 1: back she was drinking and driving apparently not a ton
Speaker 1: but like just was in a play, started drinking, you know,
Speaker 1: drink and then drove home and ended up murdering somebody
Speaker 1: running them over. Got arrest did got sentenced, and then
Speaker 1: served her time, got out of jail, found God, started rehabilitating,
Speaker 1: started speaking in schools, got reunited with her children. All
Speaker 1: of these things happened, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they re sentenced her to eight more years in prison.
Speaker 1: So people are coming forward and saying, how can you
Speaker 1: do that? This is unheard of, this has never happened before. Um,
Speaker 1: but what I took from this was not Yes, that
Speaker 1: is so heartbreaking that it happened in the first place.
Speaker 1: She's a mother, she has kids, she got out of
Speaker 1: jail the first time, her husband had filed for divorce,
Speaker 1: and she had just reunited with her children. She did
Speaker 1: all the work, she was better, and then she was
Speaker 1: back in again, which people are saying school unusual punishment,
Speaker 1: But I think it's a nice reminder to everyone while
Speaker 1: you're spending time with your family during the holidays, just
Speaker 1: don't drink and drive, Like, just don't drink and drive,
Speaker 1: even a drink. I mean, people have teased me about it,
Speaker 1: but like, I made a deal with my dad when
Speaker 1: I was younger that if I ever drank and drove
Speaker 1: and got a d UI, that I'd have to move
Speaker 1: back to Indiana, and I have not since. So like
Speaker 1: it's just so that's enough to scare you straight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I know, but you guys have to look
Speaker 1: that up too. But let's take a little break and
Speaker 1: then we'll bring that on. Sounds good, All right? Everyone,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Real Time Crime with Leo Lamar, Teddy
Speaker 1: Mellon Camp and Dmitri Pappas. Sometimes we have a very
Speaker 1: special guest with us today. This is Natalie Weaver. She
Speaker 1: is Teddy's social media assistant and she runs all of
Speaker 1: Teddy's socials. This is a case that is currently ongoing
Speaker 1: and it happened on November when Natalie's father, Chad Reid,
Speaker 1: was shot and killed by Kyle Caruth, who is known
Speaker 1: for having high profile ties in LOVECK Texas. Natalie, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. Do you mind just
Speaker 1: kind of giving everybody the like what actually went down? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely so. Um, my mom m got married two months
Speaker 1: ago to this guy named Chad Reid. Love him. Um,
Speaker 1: we all say that he they were each other's loves,
Speaker 1: of each other's lives. Um. So, Chad has been in
Speaker 1: a custody battle with his ex wife, Christina. Um. They
Speaker 1: got a divorce about five years ago. Um, but things
Speaker 1: kind of escalated when he started dating my mom. She
Speaker 1: kind of got jealous and just started kind of being
Speaker 1: more of a pain and not letting him see his kids. Um.
Speaker 1: So he's kind of been fighting for more time with
Speaker 1: his kids, x Y and z. Um. He so she
Speaker 1: was claiming that there was in adelity because my mom
Speaker 1: was married um last year. Her divorce was finalized last year.
Speaker 1: So he actually was trying to get ahold of an
Speaker 1: Marie that morning. UM. And I don't really know if
Speaker 1: they had a conversation or not. I'm not quite sure. Um.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Friday was his day to have his kids.
Speaker 1: He gets to pick them up from school, um, which
Speaker 1: is usually lets out about three fifteen, three thirty. Um.
Speaker 1: But she kept Colton home from school that day because
Speaker 1: he was sick. So she said she was taking him
Speaker 1: to the doctor, which is why he didn't just go
Speaker 1: to school and pick him up. So, UM, four o'clock
Speaker 1: rules around and he's like, Hey, I'm coming to pick
Speaker 1: up Colton. Where is he? And she's like, i'll be
Speaker 1: home at six, you can get him. Then Chad's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's my time. Just tell me where you're at. On
Speaker 1: welcome get him. He's like no, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hold him until six. I'll be home then. So he's like,
Speaker 1: where are you and she's like, I'm at work. And
Speaker 1: so he was driving down and like it's her work,
Speaker 1: is Kyle's work, and they've been working from his parents house. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're living there. I think he's been
Speaker 1: living there and working there. Um. So they were driving by.
Speaker 1: Chad was like, I'm just gonna stop and see Colton's here.
Speaker 1: So he pulls up and um, Christina and Kyle were
Speaker 1: outside on the porch, and so he got out of
Speaker 1: the car and um, yeah, confronted Christina and things just
Speaker 1: kind of took a turn. And what would by taking
Speaker 1: a turn for the worst when he was in the car,
Speaker 1: he was not alone. Correct, When Chad was in the
Speaker 1: car driving, there no no correct My mom and my
Speaker 1: eleven year old brother when the car with him. Now,
Speaker 1: when you say you can see this, you're there's a
Speaker 1: video that there's a video of the altercation. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: so sorry. My mom was recording the entire thing. Um
Speaker 1: so because of the custody battle, her attorney had instructed
Speaker 1: her to record the conversations between chat and Christina because
Speaker 1: she had been lying about everything. Um, saying Chad said this,
Speaker 1: Chad did this, and none of that was true. So
Speaker 1: my mom has since been en every conversation that they've had,
Speaker 1: UM and so that's why she was recording. So, yes,
Speaker 1: the entire thing is on video and the cops have access.
Speaker 1: They have the video. It's yeah, the cops had the
Speaker 1: video they took so they did not detain Kyle. They
Speaker 1: did not arrest Kyle. He is there's still been no
Speaker 1: arrestmate or anything like that. Um. They took my mom
Speaker 1: and Frankie, Frankie's my eleven year brother. UM. They took
Speaker 1: them to the station and took my mom and Chad's phone.
Speaker 1: So my mom said, I have this video here. It
Speaker 1: is take everything you want. UM. So my Mom's like,
Speaker 1: we have not my mom's phone and they should have
Speaker 1: the video. So and but nobody has been arrested. Nope, nope.
Speaker 1: So and they just they refused to release his name
Speaker 1: until well, they couldn't release his name because he end
Speaker 1: detained or arrested or anything like that. So there, I
Speaker 1: guess legally not allowed to UM. So finally a news
Speaker 1: source here UM connected him because he's going through a
Speaker 1: divorce with a Marie, and so they connected the addresses
Speaker 1: to match. So they finally released his name Friday night,
Speaker 1: and so as a family, how are you guys doing?
Speaker 1: And then like, what are the next steps like now
Speaker 1: that they've released his name is after and arrest is coming? Um,
Speaker 1: honestly we don't know. So are our district judge here
Speaker 1: recused herself well from the case, like this is too
Speaker 1: close to home because he's married to a district judge,
Speaker 1: So she recused herself health and the Lebbic Police Department
Speaker 1: finally like said okay, fine and handed it to our
Speaker 1: a g um. So now our attorney general has all
Speaker 1: the information and is supposed to apparently be looking into it.
Speaker 1: We haven't heard anything, so we don't know. Currently trying
Speaker 1: to spread the word and get justice for him because
Speaker 1: it's appalling that he hasn't been arrested. Quick question why,
Speaker 1: Like why do you think if there's video of him
Speaker 1: shooting someone, why do you think he hasn't been arrested
Speaker 1: or detained or brought in for questioning or I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes
Speaker 1: that we're not seeing. Um, I mean, I I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened when they went to the scene. I
Speaker 1: know that they took my mom and Frankie, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if he was like be careful, I'm married
Speaker 1: to a district judge, watch what you do, or if
Speaker 1: they knew him. I have no idea. It's absolutely insane
Speaker 1: that he has not been arrested. I mean everybody that
Speaker 1: on our end that has seen the video and watched
Speaker 1: the video, even people like are people who are not
Speaker 1: even biased in this. They don't even know the backstory, Um,
Speaker 1: have seen the video and are just completely appalled that
Speaker 1: this guy hasn't been arrested. Um, it was senseless, the
Speaker 1: dumbest thing in the world. Could have never happened. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so and he has a record as well, right, Kyle, Yeah,
Speaker 1: m hm, yes he does. Yeah, he has several, um,
Speaker 1: which I wasn't aware of until I started doing some research,
Speaker 1: But yeah, he has several arrests and he doesn't He
Speaker 1: also around dollars in property taxes and yeah he had
Speaker 1: Marie owns Oes around sixty nine thousand and income taxes.
Speaker 1: Sounds about right, So there might just be a larger
Speaker 1: case at play. Yeah. Yeah, still interesting to not bring
Speaker 1: him in though, I mean, this guy's got well yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what I said, like, not even to detain him.
Speaker 1: You have seventy two hours to hold somebody without having
Speaker 1: to charge them, so, you know, and that's what's frustrating,
Speaker 1: Jess is you know, there was a lot of talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, what if they were on drugs, what if
Speaker 1: he was drunk? You know, Now we have no idea
Speaker 1: because they didn't detain him, you know, didn't take his blood,
Speaker 1: didn't do any of that. So and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that he was, but you never know. So it's frustrating
Speaker 1: that you wasn't even taken to the station in question
Speaker 1: or detain in or anything. So have you been seeing
Speaker 1: the hashtag justice for Chad trending on Twitter? Yes? Actually
Speaker 1: I have so. UM, Me and my sister actually started that,
Speaker 1: or a lot of people here started. Honestly, there's probably
Speaker 1: a ton of us that started all at once. UM.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was our first thing is when we
Speaker 1: knew that he hadn't been detained or arrested, we were like,
Speaker 1: we're not doing this. Um. And so mostly my sister
Speaker 1: has been working tirelessly to her TikTok with Varlett's I
Speaker 1: think almost three million views now. Um, and we started
Speaker 1: the hashtag justice for Chad is How does it make
Speaker 1: you feel to see other people using the hashtag? It
Speaker 1: gives me hope. UM, I know that there's a lot
Speaker 1: wrong with our justice system, and now it's honestly more
Speaker 1: apparent than ever. UM, So there's a lot of quality
Speaker 1: chicks going on behind the scenes right now. Um, you
Speaker 1: know Governor Abbott and stuff like that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if the AG is up for re election, but I
Speaker 1: kind of heard that that has something to do with it.
Speaker 1: So they're kind of trying to play what's best for
Speaker 1: them and what's going to get them re elected. So
Speaker 1: it gives me a lot of hope that people who
Speaker 1: are not a part of the justice system are paying
Speaker 1: attention to this and um, seeing the issue with this
Speaker 1: and wanting justice as much as we do because we
Speaker 1: can't do it alone. So and then what is Chad's
Speaker 1: ex wife? What has her stance been since this happened.
Speaker 1: So Chad actually has two little boys, and so they
Speaker 1: are obviously in custody with her now whole time. My
Speaker 1: mom doesn't have any rights to them, although we're doing
Speaker 1: everything we can to get that overturned. UM, But we
Speaker 1: have since spoken to them and kept up with them.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is so tragic and so just messy,
Speaker 1: and like, how is your mom doing? How are you
Speaker 1: guys doing? Absolutely horrible if you want the honest truth,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't wish this upoint anybody, and
Speaker 1: I definitely it's really hard, like being a daughter watching
Speaker 1: her go through this. Um. Like I said, my mom
Speaker 1: loved him more than anything, and he loved her more
Speaker 1: than anything. And I just, like I said, they got
Speaker 1: married two months ago, and we always joke with my
Speaker 1: mom because it's her third marriage, you know, and we
Speaker 1: were like, okay, mom um, but no, they just had
Speaker 1: this pure, true love and just took the best care
Speaker 1: of each other. And I've never in my life seeing
Speaker 1: my mom so happy. Um, So she's not. She's not
Speaker 1: doing well at all. And then what about your brother
Speaker 1: that had to witness it. Frankie is being super resilient.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's just kind of like trying
Speaker 1: to block it out right now. I also think that
Speaker 1: he's like trying to stay strong for mom. Um. So
Speaker 1: we've talked about getting him therapy and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and he's just made comments like I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about it because I don't want to be sad.
Speaker 1: Um So I definitely think that obviously. I mean, how
Speaker 1: could you not. I mean, he was there, he saw
Speaker 1: everything happened. Um, My mom, you know, got out of
Speaker 1: the car and ran over to Chad, and Frankie followed.
Speaker 1: Because my mom wasn't even trying to like she was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't even think to tell Frankie to stay in
Speaker 1: the car. So yeah, it's just it's horrible. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're all just completely appalled. I mean, Chad was causing,
Speaker 1: he had no weapons on him, He did not lay
Speaker 1: a hand on either one of them. Um, he was
Speaker 1: not heated screaming like I said, he was just frustrated. Um,
Speaker 1: as he should be. You know, no father should be
Speaker 1: treated like that, especially when that loves his kids. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Um, so you said the police have took
Speaker 1: the phone and have the videos. There's still a copy
Speaker 1: of the video. The video has been seen by others. Correct, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: it's not something that could just disappear in the system.
Speaker 1: Right now. We're actually very worried about that. We were like, Mom,
Speaker 1: why don't you send it to somebody? Um, But we
Speaker 1: got her phone back and immediately made sure that it
Speaker 1: was safe. So. UM, so I believe that I read
Speaker 1: that Kyle's ex wife has like a restraining order against
Speaker 1: him now and is divorcing him. Correct, Yes, that yes,
Speaker 1: that's correct. So after all this happened, um, Anne Marie
Speaker 1: got a temporary restraining order on him. Um and its lengthy,
Speaker 1: that's the judge. Yes, so she got a temporary restraining
Speaker 1: order UM for her and her kids and they were UM.
Speaker 1: Word is that they were supposed to have a hearing
Speaker 1: on Friday, UM for this custody battled dispute. And since then,
Speaker 1: Kyle has stepped down or his attorneys I guess said
Speaker 1: we can't fight this because how do you go into
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um? So so yeah, so
Speaker 1: they're divorced. I think should be finalized in a few days.
Speaker 1: So is there anything you want people to know about
Speaker 1: the situation that we might not already know or might
Speaker 1: not have heard. Um, I mean, I think there's a lot. Um.
Speaker 1: Chad and Kyle have known each other for a really, really,
Speaker 1: really long time. UM. They kind of ran in the
Speaker 1: same group. UM. Macy, who was Chad's nineteen year old daughter,
Speaker 1: used to babysit his one of his older boys. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's it's just awful. And Chad is just
Speaker 1: I mean, if you know him, he's just he everybody
Speaker 1: loves him and he is never like I never, nobody
Speaker 1: ever feels threatened by him. Um, I mean I don't.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just insane to me. It's just crazy.
Speaker 1: And there was no physical altercation, no physical alternation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and that's a like the lembic pd UM in
Speaker 1: their statements, all of it's wrong. It all says that
Speaker 1: Chad was having a verbal altercation with Kyle and then
Speaker 1: it got physical and then shots were fired. And plus
Speaker 1: this whole thing was about his son. He didn't know
Speaker 1: where his son was. The whole reason he was there
Speaker 1: right correct, was to get his son. So it's like
Speaker 1: someone comes out, You're not gonna just run because they
Speaker 1: come out with a gun because you're leaving your son
Speaker 1: in that situation. Well, and that that's exactly he had.
Speaker 1: He didn't know if his son was there or not.
Speaker 1: You know, he still doesn't know, and so you know,
Speaker 1: Christina just keeps saying like I wanted to see him,
Speaker 1: like I'll go get him and you can have him
Speaker 1: at six And it just did not need to happen.
Speaker 1: It did not instillate to that. And did you guys
Speaker 1: ever find out where his son was at the time? Yes,
Speaker 1: he was at Christina's mom's house. So it wasn't even
Speaker 1: like she was spending time with him anyway. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: she she said, um, or sorry, I just lost my headphone. Um,
Speaker 1: she yes, she was. He was at Christina's or Christina's
Speaker 1: mom's house and so and so I was like, why
Speaker 1: didn't you just tell me that, you know, I would
Speaker 1: have gone to Christina's house and gotten him, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't care where he was. She was sign to pretend
Speaker 1: that she was spending time with her with her child,
Speaker 1: to try to look like a good parent allegedly. Whatever. Right, So,
Speaker 1: how for people that are listening that want to get
Speaker 1: involved and want to share this story and get justice,
Speaker 1: what should they do? Um? Honestly, just share a TikTok video,
Speaker 1: post on Twitter, post on any social media channels you can. Um,
Speaker 1: if you know people, um that can you know? Do whatever?
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, any help is great help. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean the TikTok And where do they find you? Um?
Speaker 1: The TikTok is Madison luscom. Um, I think let me
Speaker 1: make sure. Um, yeah, Madison fay Luscom is the TikTok
Speaker 1: that it's on. It's also online which is Natalie Underscore
Speaker 1: Weaver and that is also where you can find me
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Um. I shared kind of the full story
Speaker 1: or not the full story, but a kind of a
Speaker 1: quick version of it on my stories and I'm going
Speaker 1: to say that to a highlight too. Um. But there's
Speaker 1: several TikTok videos out there. Honestly, if you search Justice
Speaker 1: for Chad um a lot of them pop up and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So, oh my gosh, Well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for coming on. Thank you guys and your
Speaker 1: brother and that we're praying for them, and you know you,
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to tell you you're so strong too,
Speaker 1: because I know that you and your sister aren't. Like
Speaker 1: I still talk to you guys every day. You're like,
Speaker 1: it's beyond on me. So you know, we just know.
Speaker 1: I think you have hope that justices serves soon. No,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, we appreciate that, and thank you
Speaker 1: so much for you know, giving me this platform we
Speaker 1: come talk about it. Um. It means the world to us. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, we're just trying to spread the word
Speaker 1: and help get justice for him. So thank you so much, Na.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Natalie, you so vulnerable and everyone, just
Speaker 1: a reminder hashtag justice for Chad. Make your TikTok videos
Speaker 1: post on Twitter. Let's get some awareness around it. Thank
Speaker 1: you Natalie. Awesome, Thank you guys. All right, so are
Speaker 1: we going to a quick break? I guess we should
Speaker 1: do a quick break. Let's go to a quick break, regroup,
Speaker 1: have a breath, come back and talk about some Thanksgiving altercations. Hello, everyone,
Speaker 1: welcome back to Real Time Crime. It's us your three
Speaker 1: favorite nut jobs. Like you didn't even use your real
Speaker 1: Time boys. Hi. You know, I'm just still living in
Speaker 1: how heavy the last segment was. That was. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't wrap my head around all that evidence, all
Speaker 1: this and the guy hasn't even been brought in, Like
Speaker 1: there's video evidence. It's mind blowing. I mean, I am
Speaker 1: the big world's biggest skeptics. So of course when I
Speaker 1: read the story, like I always go to like try
Speaker 1: to see both signs, but there's video evidence. I mean, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I don't want this episode to necessarily be called Kyle's
Speaker 1: with Guns, but I do think it's time for us
Speaker 1: to just really quickly discuss Kyle Rittenhouse. True, look at
Speaker 1: bid two cases together. Look at you. My girls all
Speaker 1: grows up. I mean, my alternate tile title was way worse.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let you guys know that was the
Speaker 1: PP version. It took me a manage to get it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, is this a joke? What's happening here? Well,
Speaker 1: I honestly, I'm going to be real with you guys.
Speaker 1: I would rather talk about the other cases that we
Speaker 1: have because they are Thanksgiving related and one is not
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving related. But you know this is mostly a sentence,
Speaker 1: is that Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted. He was found not
Speaker 1: guilty on all counts, all counts, all account of possessing
Speaker 1: a deadly weapon, like the account of endangering people, showing
Speaker 1: up at a place where you didn't need to be
Speaker 1: with a k I mean, you can maybe start to
Speaker 1: see like you can maybe getting off on some but
Speaker 1: and then now he's doing sit down interviews and to me,
Speaker 1: he looks so pompous, and I swear to God, if
Speaker 1: he gets a pod cast, I'm gonna be so mad.
Speaker 1: Who knows what he's gonna do. I mean, the way
Speaker 1: he was one of the way he broke down when
Speaker 1: they said he was innocent on all accounts. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the world's worst acting. You're not even gonna
Speaker 1: win a razzie with this. Yeah, he's not even getting
Speaker 1: a webby my guy, he's not gonna get a podcast.
Speaker 1: They don't just handle this out to anybody. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: We have enough white men with podcasts. Were good, We're
Speaker 1: good on that. I I also just think, you know,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who on the other
Speaker 1: side are saying, you know, Joseph Rosenbaum was not a
Speaker 1: good guy. He was a pedophile and he was charged
Speaker 1: multiple times of pedophilia, and so a lot of people say,
Speaker 1: why is everyone so upset about this? To me, it's
Speaker 1: not about who it is that he did it too.
Speaker 1: It's the fact that he showed up with guns. And
Speaker 1: I mean, regardless of it was in self defense or not.
Speaker 1: I'm not showing up anywhere with guns. It's not our
Speaker 1: job to take a law into our own hand. Yea
Speaker 1: professional with a gun, There's no reason I should have
Speaker 1: one out at a protest. It's not my job. Like, so,
Speaker 1: to me, that's the biggest issue, Like, regardless of the
Speaker 1: guy was a good guy, or a bad guy or not.
Speaker 1: Isn't the problem to me. It's that like, why does
Speaker 1: this kid have guns? Access to guns and showing up
Speaker 1: to a protest to use them and sentence. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a little he did today, guys, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like we noticed. Okay, we're gonna we're gonna end the
Speaker 1: sentence there that he did not get and we're gonna
Speaker 1: move on to some other cases, unless you guys have
Speaker 1: want to talk more about Kyle Rittenhouse. I just great,
Speaker 1: Thank god, at least was I clear. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: think we need to give more attention to these other cases,
Speaker 1: to be honest. But also I'm very excited to talk
Speaker 1: about the Cobra case. But I just want to really
Speaker 1: quickly just do a quick rundown of tooth Thanksgiving cases
Speaker 1: that I thought were really interesting. And the first one
Speaker 1: we have is a former nanny and model, Omima Nelson,
Speaker 1: who people compared her to the fictional character Hannibal Lecter,
Speaker 1: who we all know as a cannibal. And they convicted
Speaker 1: her second degree murder and the death of her fifty
Speaker 1: six year old husband, William. He's a psychiatrist, and they
Speaker 1: said that essentially she was getting pimped out by him,
Speaker 1: and she was being abused, and on Thanksgiving she dismembered him.
Speaker 1: She stabbed him with scissors. She cut off his head
Speaker 1: and genitals, you know, really to make a point there.
Speaker 1: And she put his hands in oil and boiled it
Speaker 1: so that there would be no fingerprints, and she put
Speaker 1: the head in a freezer. She tried to use the
Speaker 1: carbage disposal to chop up his body parts. And she
Speaker 1: said that it wasn't dmitri. Are you okay? Vomit okay?
Speaker 1: I thought I heard a dry heat wanted to call
Speaker 1: it out, and and she said that it was self
Speaker 1: defense because her husband was sexually assaulting her and pimping
Speaker 1: her out to pay for rent and bills and a car.
Speaker 1: And prosecutors claimed that she was probably planning to rob him.
Speaker 1: Kind of an odd theory because it's her husband. But
Speaker 1: the prosecutor said that she enlisted the help of two
Speaker 1: ex boyfriends to remove her husband's teeth so the remains
Speaker 1: could not be identified. I don't want to say that
Speaker 1: she's trying to pull a briand laundry. But here we are,
Speaker 1: and happy Thanksgiving everyone. It's gonna be a no Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: for me. Here's the problem. If that was, if all
Speaker 1: that was really happening to her, obviously that's a horrible situation,
Speaker 1: not one that anybody should be in. But once you
Speaker 1: get out of a situation or whatever, even if she
Speaker 1: murdered in self defense, the other stuff makes no sense.
Speaker 1: Dismembering cooking boy Like, I don't know. It feels like
Speaker 1: years of resentment of being pimped out and sexually abused,
Speaker 1: you know, of course allegedly, allegedly, um maybe led to
Speaker 1: this complete mental breakdown. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot, and it reminds me um of oh no,
Speaker 1: what's his name? It did remind me of someone I
Speaker 1: knew by the pause you forgot, I'm like, she forgot,
Speaker 1: I forgot who went to Texas? And then dismembered uh
Speaker 1: Mr Black? Oh yeah, the air. We got this, We
Speaker 1: got the three of us together can come up with
Speaker 1: the name? Watch this. How many sleuths does it take
Speaker 1: to remember one person? The Jinks, the guy from the Jinks,
Speaker 1: the guy from what's his name? Robert? There's nothing the
Speaker 1: three of us can't do. High five, Okay, and um,
Speaker 1: I need to see be seen by a doctor for dementia.
Speaker 1: So Robert Durst did also dismember Mr Black and said,
Speaker 1: because you know, he thought that people would think that
Speaker 1: it wasn't self defense, so he didn't know what to do,
Speaker 1: so he dismembered him. I mean, I don't really know
Speaker 1: what the argument is for dismember it, but I got
Speaker 1: that one. We brought that up to the investigator, the
Speaker 1: one you were flirting with mcgraf, and he was like,
Speaker 1: an investigator, sounds like something I would do exactly. I
Speaker 1: think the only one you've ruled out as far as
Speaker 1: husband maserial is anybody named Kyle. At this point. Beyond that,
Speaker 1: I think you're still wide open hilarious. So but we
Speaker 1: brought that up and he goes, that's the problem. Once
Speaker 1: they do something like that, once they dismember a body
Speaker 1: and hide it, then it's like you've totally you're washing
Speaker 1: away your self defense. Except for some reason, people keep
Speaker 1: getting off what's happy Thanksgiving story? Yeah, and there's just
Speaker 1: one more Thanksgiving story very quickly. So seven year old
Speaker 1: woman in Maryland was arrested in charge with stabbing her
Speaker 1: half brother in the neck during Thanksgiving dinner with a
Speaker 1: serving fork over an argument and Deante Wallace survived the
Speaker 1: stab wounds. So all I'm saying is, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: stab someone with a dingle hopper, you know what you're
Speaker 1: saying is maybe avoid some of the top tough conversations
Speaker 1: during Thanksgiving so it doesn't lead to that. Yeah, remember
Speaker 1: we said no religion, politics, just talk about the weather.
Speaker 1: Is it that hard weather and rainbows and happy time?
Speaker 1: But see, this article could very well be about me,
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm not going home for Thanksgiving. Can
Speaker 1: I just point out that the only one without kids
Speaker 1: just quoted The Little Mermaid? I know what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You're now you're treating me out. You're just sitting home
Speaker 1: watching animated movies with your crime background. I have nothing
Speaker 1: else to do. Lonely, I'm just reminiscing on my childhood
Speaker 1: just to feel joy well speaking. Oh look, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tie it together. Speaking of anime movies, let's talk about
Speaker 1: snakes like from Aladdin. Oh, here we go. We guys
Speaker 1: just having to keep we're having to you know, web
Speaker 1: it in and he is just starring in a beautiful
Speaker 1: mind right now, watching all the pieces come together, just
Speaker 1: like in my bulletin board. I'm like the meme of
Speaker 1: Lisa Arena with like all the math have you seen it? Okay,
Speaker 1: so now I need to find she died from a
Speaker 1: snake bite, but the real killer was her husband. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing. This woman who ended up dying from
Speaker 1: a snake bite, he did this to her multiple times,
Speaker 1: three three times. The first two times didn't work. The
Speaker 1: second time she even ended up in the hospital. Told
Speaker 1: them he put the snake to get her. They just
Speaker 1: let her go home with him, so did her family.
Speaker 1: And then the last time, he kept a cobra tied
Speaker 1: up in like by itself so that it would want
Speaker 1: to bite her. It still didn't want to, so then
Speaker 1: he had to open its mouth and push his teeth,
Speaker 1: the teeth into her to get the venom to get
Speaker 1: into her, and that's what ended up killing her twice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they had proof that not only did he
Speaker 1: the snake the like the way the snake bite bit
Speaker 1: was not possible for the snake to do on its own,
Speaker 1: but also like I just can't there's gotta be other ways.
Speaker 1: This is what's this is what's incredible. This shows that
Speaker 1: it's a different place, but it's the same type of behavior.
Speaker 1: There's proof that he went and bought these snakes from
Speaker 1: people like you know, people going like, well, he bought
Speaker 1: this gun the most notorious snake. I think I read
Speaker 1: that there was one point two million snake bite like
Speaker 1: snake casualties. I mean, it makes sense. So so he
Speaker 1: bought them from the snake handler. Uh Siresh, it's his
Speaker 1: last name. And so first he tried the Russell's viper
Speaker 1: that was the first one, and he put it in
Speaker 1: the staircase of his house, hoping that um, when he
Speaker 1: asked her to go fetch his phone from down the stairs,
Speaker 1: that it would just bite her and kill her. But
Speaker 1: she saw the snake and then it raised alarms. But
Speaker 1: then he kept the snake in a plastic bag and
Speaker 1: tried again. And then he tried sedating her by putting
Speaker 1: sedatives in a bowl of Indian rice pudding, and she
Speaker 1: fell asleep. Um he got He forced the viper to
Speaker 1: bite her and then threw it out of her house
Speaker 1: to destroy the evidence, and she woke up in excruciating pain.
Speaker 1: She survived the bite, this is the one you were
Speaker 1: talking about. And then she survived. So then the third
Speaker 1: time they were trying to put skin grafts on her
Speaker 1: legs after she had been bitten by the snake, but
Speaker 1: there was this the other cobra that came in. He
Speaker 1: laced her with sedatives again. And of course, because the
Speaker 1: cobra had been tied up for seven days, cobra's need
Speaker 1: to eat I think twice a day minimum, and so
Speaker 1: it hadn't eaten anything in seven days, so technically it
Speaker 1: should have been starving. But instead, when he unleashed the
Speaker 1: cobra on her and her basically lifeless body, because he
Speaker 1: had sedated her so much, it didn't even want to
Speaker 1: eat her, so he had to ford his head down
Speaker 1: two times into her body. I'm also I'm sorry if
Speaker 1: I'm missed gendering the snake. I don't know if as
Speaker 1: a matter that the snake would not bite without being provoked. Yes,
Speaker 1: even thought right, and they were able to tell because
Speaker 1: usually the snake by would only be between point nine
Speaker 1: and oh, the snake by would be point sixteen to
Speaker 1: point six three inches, and then because it was, the
Speaker 1: head was pushed all the way in, the fangs reached
Speaker 1: point nine to one point one inches each, so it
Speaker 1: was clear that the cobra's upper jaw had been pushed
Speaker 1: in as if it was being milked into her body.
Speaker 1: So that raised a lot of suspicion. Is cobro biting
Speaker 1: him with? I mean, if I was messing with a
Speaker 1: cobra like that, I would think I would get bit
Speaker 1: the moment he opens whatever it was trapped in. It
Speaker 1: had to eat for seven days, you think it would
Speaker 1: launch itself, right, you know, but maybe it was just
Speaker 1: getting ready for New York Fashion Week. We also leeah,
Speaker 1: we have to mention this part considering you know all
Speaker 1: we talk about with your dating life. These two got
Speaker 1: married because through a dating app and the parents the
Speaker 1: matchmaker right match, No an app, but it was an app.
Speaker 1: But they chose this man because she had learning disabilities
Speaker 1: and they thought that he would take care of her. Right,
Speaker 1: talk about a bad picker. If it actually was a
Speaker 1: mass pick or not an app. You messed this one up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Utra that is her, that was her name. Did not
Speaker 1: choose well, I will say Kumar, the man who murdered her.
Speaker 1: Her ex husband just wanted to get out of the
Speaker 1: marriage so badly because he couldn't handle it anymore. It's
Speaker 1: just like, just divorce her. Why do you need to
Speaker 1: mercilessly money and the other thing. Yeah, he was milking
Speaker 1: them for all the money. But also the other thing
Speaker 1: that's interesting is that, uh, the snake handler had also
Speaker 1: been bitten by a cobra before and said it was
Speaker 1: the most excruciating painful experiences of his entire life. So
Speaker 1: it's obvious that she was not just sleeping, because if
Speaker 1: she had been sleeping, she would have been woken up
Speaker 1: by how painful the bite was. But it's clear that
Speaker 1: she was said there was the sedative in her body
Speaker 1: so that she did not feel most painful experience of
Speaker 1: her entire life. But he's so he's an idiot, like
Speaker 1: he's going through the not that any of this is
Speaker 1: the right, like you should be doing. But he's drugging
Speaker 1: her to get her to sleep so he can try
Speaker 1: and get a snake to bite her. Like the guy's
Speaker 1: just a moron. Yeah, oh, this is really making me
Speaker 1: appreciate being single. You know. It's like just no one
Speaker 1: to murder me because no one cares about me enough
Speaker 1: to kill me. But I know, I'm really sad about it,
Speaker 1: but I will say. The other thing is that her
Speaker 1: brother found the cobra inside the family home and killed it,
Speaker 1: and this was after was pronounced dead, and they buried
Speaker 1: the serpent at the house and marked the location with
Speaker 1: a stick. And then during the investigation, they dug up
Speaker 1: the snake's carcass and they showed that the abdomen was empty,
Speaker 1: which was super significant because, like we said before, these
Speaker 1: cobras eat twice a single day and there would still
Speaker 1: be food in their body. And it takes seven days
Speaker 1: for snakes to die dust food, which means that it
Speaker 1: had been at least seven days since the snake had
Speaker 1: been fed, which means it was not in its natural habitat,
Speaker 1: which means it was being kept in confinement. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: besides that, and and you know, the snake handler called
Speaker 1: the husband and said, why did you commit this horrible sin?
Speaker 1: And he was brought on trial, but he was acquitted
Speaker 1: because obviously he was not part of the murder or
Speaker 1: the planning of it. But this is such a grave sin,
Speaker 1: as they said, and it's just tragic, horrible, terrible, horrible,
Speaker 1: I mean, really disgusting, very sad. And Teddy, I know
Speaker 1: that we had one more story to get to today,
Speaker 1: I guess, but I also know that your entire family
Speaker 1: is about to come into the house, like we I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like we can. Just you want to run
Speaker 1: through it, We'll run through it quickly. About we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Instagram model. Oh yeah, we are, Okay, So
Speaker 1: the Instagram model who it was her twenty four birthday.
Speaker 1: She went out with her um, one of her best friends,
Speaker 1: and after her best friend a text, we should get
Speaker 1: out of here with the eyes like the emoji the eyes,
Speaker 1: and those were the last text messages found from the
Speaker 1: instant models husband. However, both women were found at separate hospitals,
Speaker 1: drugged with heroin in their system, and so far they
Speaker 1: have not told us yet if there has been um
Speaker 1: sexual abuse, but they're no longer with us. Well, they
Speaker 1: were found dead outside the hospitals. Well, there's actually just
Speaker 1: a quick correction. So they were out at a different
Speaker 1: club and met these guys and went back with them
Speaker 1: to this warehouse party. So they weren't people that they
Speaker 1: knew beforehand, to be clear. And then also I also
Speaker 1: do find it interesting her husband wasn't out with her
Speaker 1: at the birthday celebrate, not was out of town. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but I can't say this. I'm not going out nill
Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning when my husband's not around,
Speaker 1: but and I don't mean I was going to start,
Speaker 1: so I said, nothing good happens after midnight. I usually
Speaker 1: turn into a pumpkin. But anyway, so that's a story
Speaker 1: for a different day, Disney, And I will say I
Speaker 1: did go on a date last night. Is this can
Speaker 1: I just okay? So I did go on a date
Speaker 1: last night. And I told him I had to treat
Speaker 1: Sunday night like a school night because I had a
Speaker 1: very early interview in the morning. I know ten thirty
Speaker 1: for most people isn't very early, but for me it is.
Speaker 1: And I told him at midnight I was turned into
Speaker 1: a pumpkin. So we were sitting outside my house in
Speaker 1: his car at midnight, and I did not turn into pumpkin?
Speaker 1: Did you make out? The cameras will probably show that this.
Speaker 1: Did he come inside? Guys? I can't. I too. The
Speaker 1: stress of my kids is having me put things in
Speaker 1: the wrong. I don't think not, because I am an
Speaker 1: adult and thought I had a very exciting interview this morning.
Speaker 1: So I got my beauty rest and read up on
Speaker 1: all of our cases and was even texting you guys
Speaker 1: at one in the morning things that I thought we
Speaker 1: should add to the rundown for today. So no, Teddy,
Speaker 1: he did not come inside. And I mean that in
Speaker 1: every way possible. That's number one. Number two. I will
Speaker 1: round out this model story by letting you know that
Speaker 1: Christie was found dead outside of Southern California Hospital in
Speaker 1: Culver City around i PM. I thought it's my bam
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and then two hours later her friend Hilda
Speaker 1: was in critical condition outside a different hospital. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if she has passed away yet, but they
Speaker 1: said that she has no brain activity and it doesn't
Speaker 1: look good for her at the moment. So they were
Speaker 1: injected with heroin and um. They are still waiting to
Speaker 1: figure out what's going on. Why these guys separated them
Speaker 1: and the time differences why they We don't know. We
Speaker 1: don't have all the information. We definitely have speculation, but
Speaker 1: not the information. So we will stay tuned for updates
Speaker 1: on this case. Hello, children, just talking about the little
Speaker 1: Mermaid here. Don't worry about a thing. Yeah, alright, So
Speaker 1: I guess that's it for us today. I want to
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