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Speaker 3: The twelve every Day jurors vowed to make a decision
Speaker 3: based on the evidence and the law. And the evidence
Speaker 3: and the law alone, their deliberations led them to a
Speaker 3: unanimous conclusion beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant, Donald J. Trump,
Speaker 3: is guilty of thirty four counts of falsifying business records
Speaker 3: in the first degree to conceal a scheme to corrupt
Speaker 3: the twenty sixteen election. And while this defendant may be
Speaker 3: unlike any other in American history, we arrived at this
Speaker 3: trial and ultimately today at this verdict in the same
Speaker 3: manner as every other case that comes to the courtroom
Speaker 3: dooring by following the facts and the law, in doing
Speaker 3: so without fear or fevor.
Speaker 2: Here's where we are in the matter of the people
Speaker 2: of the State of New York against Donald J. Trump.
Speaker 2: He was found guilty in thirty four counts. So for effects,
Speaker 2: I was trying to make sure that you all knew
Speaker 2: what was going on. As you know, last year April
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, the Manhattan District attorney Alvin Bragg,
Speaker 2: who is a brother, ind and pursued an indictment against
Speaker 2: Donald Trump for thirty four counts. The thirty four counts
Speaker 2: were all related to falsifying business records in the first degree.
Speaker 2: This is thirty four of Donald Trump's eighty eight counts
Speaker 2: or indictments. Right he has been indicted on eighty eight charges,
Speaker 2: different charges on the county level and on the federal level.
Speaker 2: The federal cases involved classified documents and election interference. The
Speaker 2: classified documents charge is related Tomorrow Lago.
Speaker 4: It is in Miami.
Speaker 2: Election interference case is regarding what happened on January sixth.
Speaker 4: It is in DC.
Speaker 2: Both of those cases brought to you by Jack Smith.
Speaker 2: Both of those delayed. Fulton County brought to you by
Speaker 2: Da Fannie willis delayed. This is the only case that
Speaker 2: is likely to see a courtroom. Before the election, it
Speaker 2: was a major deal. A lot of folks, including myself,
Speaker 2: had a great trepidation about whether or not there would
Speaker 2: be a guilty.
Speaker 4: Count at all.
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna tell y'all wile I'm still not popping
Speaker 2: bottles number one, I'm not even gonna celebrate anyone going
Speaker 2: to jail necessarily. But what I'm concerned about here is this,
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court has heard a presidential immunity case for
Speaker 2: Donald Trump relating to criminal charges. They have never had
Speaker 2: to hear a case about indicting a president, a sitting
Speaker 2: president in their official capacity or otherwise, and so there
Speaker 2: is no precedent for that, so they had to hear.
Speaker 2: They have a civil basis for that with Richard Nixon
Speaker 2: and others don't have a criminal basis. So this is
Speaker 2: the first time they have to decide whether president should
Speaker 2: have criminal immunity or complete immunity as they call it.
Speaker 2: That case oral arguments have been heard. That case will
Speaker 2: be decided in late June early July. What does that mean?
Speaker 2: People will argue that that only applies to the criminal charges.
Speaker 2: On the federal level, Here's what I take issue with.
Speaker 2: There's a little thing called the United States Constitution, and
Speaker 2: then the US Constitution.
Speaker 4: There is a provision related to.
Speaker 2: Laws, the hierarchy of laws in this country. It's called
Speaker 2: the supremacy Clause. The supremacy clause is Article six, paragraph
Speaker 2: two in the Constitution. In that what you should know
Speaker 2: is that federal law takes precedent over state law. You
Speaker 2: should know that this is where they are. You that
Speaker 2: federal law is the supreme law of the land. Sure
Speaker 2: we understand states rights, Sure we understand that people can
Speaker 2: be held liable or guilty on multiple levels. I understand that.
Speaker 2: But I am near confident that these folks will make
Speaker 2: the argument that if he is immune on a federal level,
Speaker 2: that that will trickle down to the state case, to
Speaker 2: the county case. That's what I believe. That is my argument.
Speaker 2: That is my highest and greatest concern right now. So
Speaker 2: I am not confident. I'm not putting a lot of
Speaker 2: stock in Okay. This man is supposed to be sentenced
Speaker 2: on seven eleven, seven eleven, even back Golo Joe shout
Speaker 2: out to everybody knows about ice Cube seven eleven at
Speaker 2: ten am by Judge Wan Marshawn.
Speaker 4: Now here's the thing. He's slated to be sentenced.
Speaker 2: He has no priors, at least no priors that he's
Speaker 2: been convicted of. I think we all believe that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump has been crooked for a long time, playing a
Speaker 2: mean and evil game for.
Speaker 4: A long time.
Speaker 2: But in his white privilege, he's never been held liable,
Speaker 2: criminally liable or otherwise. He's been sued a gazillion times,
Speaker 2: paid fines a gazillion times, but never had a criminal
Speaker 2: charge that he's been found guilty of. These are the first,
Speaker 2: and it happens to be thirty four of this pretty
Speaker 2: strong statement by this jury. But he's scheduled to be
Speaker 2: sentenced on seven to eleven.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: With no priors, he's not likely to be he's not
Speaker 2: not likely to go to jail, And so I want
Speaker 2: people to manage their expectations around that as well. So
Speaker 2: when you consider that and how his rabid fan base,
Speaker 2: his rabbit supporters, what they believe, what they embrace, what
Speaker 2: they support, I think that that is only going to
Speaker 2: embolden them.
Speaker 4: I think that they are going to say.
Speaker 2: This man was wrongly accused in this criminal justice system.
Speaker 2: It was selective and vindictive prosecution. He should have never
Speaker 2: been charged, he should have never been indicted.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: And if he's going to use it to fundraise, he
Speaker 2: is going to use it to garner more support. He's
Speaker 2: going to use it to attack the jurors, to attack
Speaker 2: the judge, to attack the prosecutors in these cases, as
Speaker 2: he's already done, including the judge's daughter, right like, So
Speaker 2: these are These are not things that I'm just making
Speaker 2: up out it then air.
Speaker 4: These are this is how he moves.
Speaker 2: So I'm very concerned that these charges won't stick and
Speaker 2: that to the extent that they say that he's a
Speaker 2: wrongfully convicted felon, that it only emboldens his base. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of people, as you all know, that
Speaker 2: are wrongfully convicted.
Speaker 4: Every single day.
Speaker 2: We've just been fighting for one Marilyn Moseby, as you
Speaker 2: all know who. We're still pushing for all of us
Speaker 2: to sign a petition for her presidential pardon Justice from
Speaker 2: Marilynmoseby dot com. This is what we're up against, y'all.
Speaker 2: This is a system that has not been kind to us.
Speaker 2: It is not being good to us. And Donald Trump
Speaker 2: is trying to play and pray on our oppression that
Speaker 2: we've experienced in the criminal justice system and act like
Speaker 2: he understands the plight of a brother or a sistan.
Speaker 4: No, you don't, and so we need to know what
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 2: This is someone who's been crooked for a long time,
Speaker 2: has been fraudulent for a long time, has gotten away
Speaker 2: with murder for a long time.
Speaker 4: We need to call it what it is.
Speaker 2: So when you are faced with the inaccuracies and the
Speaker 2: misinformation and the alternative facts from his supporters, make sure
Speaker 2: you're clear about what else is at stake, and what
Speaker 2: else is on the line, and what else he's been
Speaker 2: charged with. Even if the judge who he appointed in
Speaker 2: Miami continues to delay the trial, you all understand what
Speaker 2: it is. It's all part of the game, the reason
Speaker 2: why this has so much traction in the Supreme Court
Speaker 2: and why they really are considering giving him, granting him
Speaker 2: full immunity, which would mean avoiding criminal prosecution on the
Speaker 2: federal level, and I think will have ramifications on the
Speaker 2: state and county levels as well. There are three of
Speaker 2: those folks, three of those judges who were appointed by
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. When we talk about what is at stake
Speaker 2: in this justice system, please understand stand the way in
Speaker 2: which the games are played. You will hear from us
Speaker 2: on this podcast, and you will certainly hear more from
Speaker 2: us on the Trump trials and the tribulations that he's
Speaker 2: putting us through as a result of these trials next
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