WEBVTT - Is Donald Trump Going Down? | MiniPod

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<v Speaker 1>Native Land Pod is the production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with Recent Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Come, Well Come, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>The twelve every Day jurors vowed to make a decision

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<v Speaker 3>based on the evidence and the law. And the evidence

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<v Speaker 3>and the law alone, their deliberations led them to a

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<v Speaker 3>unanimous conclusion beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant, Donald J. Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>is guilty of thirty four counts of falsifying business records

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<v Speaker 3>in the first degree to conceal a scheme to corrupt

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty sixteen election. And while this defendant may be

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<v Speaker 3>unlike any other in American history, we arrived at this

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<v Speaker 3>trial and ultimately today at this verdict in the same

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<v Speaker 3>manner as every other case that comes to the courtroom

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<v Speaker 3>dooring by following the facts and the law, in doing

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<v Speaker 3>so without fear or fevor.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's where we are in the matter of the people

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<v Speaker 2>of the State of New York against Donald J. Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>He was found guilty in thirty four counts. So for effects,

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to make sure that you all knew

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on. As you know, last year April

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty three, the Manhattan District attorney Alvin Bragg,

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<v Speaker 2>who is a brother, ind and pursued an indictment against

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump for thirty four counts. The thirty four counts

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<v Speaker 2>were all related to falsifying business records in the first degree.

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<v Speaker 2>This is thirty four of Donald Trump's eighty eight counts

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<v Speaker 2>or indictments. Right he has been indicted on eighty eight charges,

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<v Speaker 2>different charges on the county level and on the federal level.

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<v Speaker 2>The federal cases involved classified documents and election interference. The

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<v Speaker 2>classified documents charge is related Tomorrow Lago.

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<v Speaker 4>It is in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>Election interference case is regarding what happened on January sixth.

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<v Speaker 4>It is in DC.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of those cases brought to you by Jack Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of those delayed. Fulton County brought to you by

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<v Speaker 2>Da Fannie willis delayed. This is the only case that

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<v Speaker 2>is likely to see a courtroom. Before the election, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a major deal. A lot of folks, including myself,

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<v Speaker 2>had a great trepidation about whether or not there would

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<v Speaker 2>be a guilty.

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<v Speaker 4>Count at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm gonna tell y'all wile I'm still not popping

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<v Speaker 2>bottles number one, I'm not even gonna celebrate anyone going

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<v Speaker 2>to jail necessarily. But what I'm concerned about here is this,

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court has heard a presidential immunity case for

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump relating to criminal charges. They have never had

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<v Speaker 2>to hear a case about indicting a president, a sitting

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<v Speaker 2>president in their official capacity or otherwise, and so there

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<v Speaker 2>is no precedent for that, so they had to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a civil basis for that with Richard Nixon

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<v Speaker 2>and others don't have a criminal basis. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first time they have to decide whether president should

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<v Speaker 2>have criminal immunity or complete immunity as they call it.

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<v Speaker 2>That case oral arguments have been heard. That case will

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<v Speaker 2>be decided in late June early July. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>People will argue that that only applies to the criminal charges.

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<v Speaker 2>On the federal level, Here's what I take issue with.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a little thing called the United States Constitution, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the US Constitution.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a provision related to.

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<v Speaker 2>Laws, the hierarchy of laws in this country. It's called

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<v Speaker 2>the supremacy Clause. The supremacy clause is Article six, paragraph

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<v Speaker 2>two in the Constitution. In that what you should know

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<v Speaker 2>is that federal law takes precedent over state law. You

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<v Speaker 2>should know that this is where they are. You that

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<v Speaker 2>federal law is the supreme law of the land. Sure

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<v Speaker 2>we understand states rights, Sure we understand that people can

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<v Speaker 2>be held liable or guilty on multiple levels. I understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am near confident that these folks will make

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<v Speaker 2>the argument that if he is immune on a federal level,

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<v Speaker 2>that that will trickle down to the state case, to

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<v Speaker 2>the county case. That's what I believe. That is my argument.

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<v Speaker 2>That is my highest and greatest concern right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>I am not confident. I'm not putting a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>stock in Okay. This man is supposed to be sentenced

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<v Speaker 2>on seven eleven, seven eleven, even back Golo Joe shout

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<v Speaker 2>out to everybody knows about ice Cube seven eleven at

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<v Speaker 2>ten am by Judge Wan Marshawn.

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<v Speaker 4>Now here's the thing. He's slated to be sentenced.

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<v Speaker 2>He has no priors, at least no priors that he's

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<v Speaker 2>been convicted of. I think we all believe that Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has been crooked for a long time, playing a

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<v Speaker 2>mean and evil game for.

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<v Speaker 4>A long time.

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<v Speaker 2>But in his white privilege, he's never been held liable,

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<v Speaker 2>criminally liable or otherwise. He's been sued a gazillion times,

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<v Speaker 2>paid fines a gazillion times, but never had a criminal

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<v Speaker 2>charge that he's been found guilty of. These are the first,

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<v Speaker 2>and it happens to be thirty four of this pretty

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<v Speaker 2>strong statement by this jury. But he's scheduled to be

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<v Speaker 2>sentenced on seven to eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>With no priors, he's not likely to be he's not

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<v Speaker 2>not likely to go to jail, And so I want

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<v Speaker 2>people to manage their expectations around that as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you consider that and how his rabid fan base,

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<v Speaker 2>his rabbit supporters, what they believe, what they embrace, what

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<v Speaker 2>they support, I think that that is only going to

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<v Speaker 2>embolden them.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that they are going to say.

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<v Speaker 2>This man was wrongly accused in this criminal justice system.

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<v Speaker 2>It was selective and vindictive prosecution. He should have never

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<v Speaker 2>been charged, he should have never been indicted.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And if he's going to use it to fundraise, he

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<v Speaker 2>is going to use it to garner more support. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to use it to attack the jurors, to attack

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<v Speaker 2>the judge, to attack the prosecutors in these cases, as

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<v Speaker 2>he's already done, including the judge's daughter, right like, So

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<v Speaker 2>these are These are not things that I'm just making

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<v Speaker 2>up out it then air.

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<v Speaker 4>These are this is how he moves.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm very concerned that these charges won't stick and

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<v Speaker 2>that to the extent that they say that he's a

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<v Speaker 2>wrongfully convicted felon, that it only emboldens his base. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot of people, as you all know, that

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<v Speaker 2>are wrongfully convicted.

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<v Speaker 4>Every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>We've just been fighting for one Marilyn Moseby, as you

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<v Speaker 2>all know who. We're still pushing for all of us

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<v Speaker 2>to sign a petition for her presidential pardon Justice from

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<v Speaker 2>Marilynmoseby dot com. This is what we're up against, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a system that has not been kind to us.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not being good to us. And Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to play and pray on our oppression that

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<v Speaker 2>we've experienced in the criminal justice system and act like

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<v Speaker 2>he understands the plight of a brother or a sistan.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you don't, and so we need to know what

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<v Speaker 4>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is someone who's been crooked for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>has been fraudulent for a long time, has gotten away

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<v Speaker 2>with murder for a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to call it what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you are faced with the inaccuracies and the

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<v Speaker 2>misinformation and the alternative facts from his supporters, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you're clear about what else is at stake, and what

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<v Speaker 2>else is on the line, and what else he's been

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<v Speaker 2>charged with. Even if the judge who he appointed in

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<v Speaker 2>Miami continues to delay the trial, you all understand what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It's all part of the game, the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why this has so much traction in the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>and why they really are considering giving him, granting him

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<v Speaker 2>full immunity, which would mean avoiding criminal prosecution on the

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<v Speaker 2>federal level, and I think will have ramifications on the

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<v Speaker 2>state and county levels as well. There are three of

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<v Speaker 2>those folks, three of those judges who were appointed by

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. When we talk about what is at stake

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<v Speaker 2>in this justice system, please understand stand the way in

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<v Speaker 2>which the games are played. You will hear from us

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast, and you will certainly hear more from

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<v Speaker 2>us on the Trump trials and the tribulations that he's

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<v Speaker 2>putting us through as a result of these trials next

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