1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is the production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: with Recent Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Well Come, Well Come, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: The twelve every Day jurors vowed to make a decision 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 3: based on the evidence and the law. And the evidence 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: and the law alone, their deliberations led them to a 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: unanimous conclusion beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant, Donald J. Trump, 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: is guilty of thirty four counts of falsifying business records 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: in the first degree to conceal a scheme to corrupt 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: the twenty sixteen election. And while this defendant may be 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: unlike any other in American history, we arrived at this 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: trial and ultimately today at this verdict in the same 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: manner as every other case that comes to the courtroom 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: dooring by following the facts and the law, in doing 15 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: so without fear or fevor. 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: Here's where we are in the matter of the people 17 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: of the State of New York against Donald J. Trump. 18 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 2: He was found guilty in thirty four counts. So for effects, 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: I was trying to make sure that you all knew 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: what was going on. As you know, last year April 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, the Manhattan District attorney Alvin Bragg, 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: who is a brother, ind and pursued an indictment against 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Donald Trump for thirty four counts. The thirty four counts 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: were all related to falsifying business records in the first degree. 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: This is thirty four of Donald Trump's eighty eight counts 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: or indictments. Right he has been indicted on eighty eight charges, 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: different charges on the county level and on the federal level. 28 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: The federal cases involved classified documents and election interference. The 29 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: classified documents charge is related Tomorrow Lago. 30 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: It is in Miami. 31 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: Election interference case is regarding what happened on January sixth. 32 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: It is in DC. 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: Both of those cases brought to you by Jack Smith. 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: Both of those delayed. Fulton County brought to you by 35 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: Da Fannie willis delayed. This is the only case that 36 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: is likely to see a courtroom. Before the election, it 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: was a major deal. A lot of folks, including myself, 38 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 2: had a great trepidation about whether or not there would 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: be a guilty. 40 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: Count at all. 41 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna tell y'all wile I'm still not popping 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: bottles number one, I'm not even gonna celebrate anyone going 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 2: to jail necessarily. But what I'm concerned about here is this, 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court has heard a presidential immunity case for 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: Donald Trump relating to criminal charges. They have never had 46 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: to hear a case about indicting a president, a sitting 47 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: president in their official capacity or otherwise, and so there 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: is no precedent for that, so they had to hear. 49 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: They have a civil basis for that with Richard Nixon 50 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: and others don't have a criminal basis. So this is 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: the first time they have to decide whether president should 52 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: have criminal immunity or complete immunity as they call it. 53 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 2: That case oral arguments have been heard. That case will 54 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: be decided in late June early July. What does that mean? 55 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: People will argue that that only applies to the criminal charges. 56 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: On the federal level, Here's what I take issue with. 57 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: There's a little thing called the United States Constitution, and 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: then the US Constitution. 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: There is a provision related to. 60 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: Laws, the hierarchy of laws in this country. It's called 61 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: the supremacy Clause. The supremacy clause is Article six, paragraph 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: two in the Constitution. In that what you should know 63 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: is that federal law takes precedent over state law. You 64 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: should know that this is where they are. You that 65 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: federal law is the supreme law of the land. Sure 66 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: we understand states rights, Sure we understand that people can 67 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: be held liable or guilty on multiple levels. I understand that. 68 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: But I am near confident that these folks will make 69 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: the argument that if he is immune on a federal level, 70 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: that that will trickle down to the state case, to 71 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: the county case. That's what I believe. That is my argument. 72 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: That is my highest and greatest concern right now. So 73 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: I am not confident. I'm not putting a lot of 74 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: stock in Okay. This man is supposed to be sentenced 75 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: on seven eleven, seven eleven, even back Golo Joe shout 76 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: out to everybody knows about ice Cube seven eleven at 77 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: ten am by Judge Wan Marshawn. 78 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: Now here's the thing. He's slated to be sentenced. 79 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: He has no priors, at least no priors that he's 80 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: been convicted of. I think we all believe that Donald 81 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: Trump has been crooked for a long time, playing a 82 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: mean and evil game for. 83 00:04:59,160 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: A long time. 84 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: But in his white privilege, he's never been held liable, 85 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: criminally liable or otherwise. He's been sued a gazillion times, 86 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: paid fines a gazillion times, but never had a criminal 87 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: charge that he's been found guilty of. These are the first, 88 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: and it happens to be thirty four of this pretty 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: strong statement by this jury. But he's scheduled to be 90 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: sentenced on seven to eleven. 91 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. 92 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: With no priors, he's not likely to be he's not 93 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: not likely to go to jail, And so I want 94 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: people to manage their expectations around that as well. So 95 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: when you consider that and how his rabid fan base, 96 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: his rabbit supporters, what they believe, what they embrace, what 97 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: they support, I think that that is only going to 98 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: embolden them. 99 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: I think that they are going to say. 100 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: This man was wrongly accused in this criminal justice system. 101 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: It was selective and vindictive prosecution. He should have never 102 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: been charged, he should have never been indicted. 103 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: Right. 104 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: And if he's going to use it to fundraise, he 105 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: is going to use it to garner more support. He's 106 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: going to use it to attack the jurors, to attack 107 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: the judge, to attack the prosecutors in these cases, as 108 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: he's already done, including the judge's daughter, right like, So 109 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: these are These are not things that I'm just making 110 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: up out it then air. 111 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: These are this is how he moves. 112 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: So I'm very concerned that these charges won't stick and 113 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: that to the extent that they say that he's a 114 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: wrongfully convicted felon, that it only emboldens his base. There 115 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: are a lot of people, as you all know, that 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: are wrongfully convicted. 117 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 4: Every single day. 118 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: We've just been fighting for one Marilyn Moseby, as you 119 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: all know who. We're still pushing for all of us 120 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 2: to sign a petition for her presidential pardon Justice from 121 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 2: Marilynmoseby dot com. This is what we're up against, y'all. 122 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: This is a system that has not been kind to us. 123 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: It is not being good to us. And Donald Trump 124 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: is trying to play and pray on our oppression that 125 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: we've experienced in the criminal justice system and act like 126 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: he understands the plight of a brother or a sistan. 127 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: No, you don't, and so we need to know what 128 00:06:58,800 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: it is. 129 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: This is someone who's been crooked for a long time, 130 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: has been fraudulent for a long time, has gotten away 131 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: with murder for a long time. 132 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 4: We need to call it what it is. 133 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: So when you are faced with the inaccuracies and the 134 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: misinformation and the alternative facts from his supporters, make sure 135 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: you're clear about what else is at stake, and what 136 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: else is on the line, and what else he's been 137 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: charged with. Even if the judge who he appointed in 138 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: Miami continues to delay the trial, you all understand what 139 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: it is. It's all part of the game, the reason 140 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: why this has so much traction in the Supreme Court 141 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: and why they really are considering giving him, granting him 142 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: full immunity, which would mean avoiding criminal prosecution on the 143 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: federal level, and I think will have ramifications on the 144 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: state and county levels as well. There are three of 145 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: those folks, three of those judges who were appointed by 146 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. When we talk about what is at stake 147 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: in this justice system, please understand stand the way in 148 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: which the games are played. You will hear from us 149 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: on this podcast, and you will certainly hear more from 150 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: us on the Trump trials and the tribulations that he's 151 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: putting us through as a result of these trials next 152 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: week on the podcast Welcome Home Everybody. Make sure if 153 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: you haven't downloaded yet and followed the podcast, it is 154 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: native lamppod check us out every single Thursday. 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