Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the home Bunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: I cannot believe that I am saying this nearly two
Speaker 1: weeks following the Tennessee shooting. But there's been another fucking shooting,
Speaker 1: and this time in Kentucky. This time it was at
Speaker 1: a bank. A twenty three year old white guy employee
Speaker 1: of the bank went in with a rifle and shot
Speaker 1: it up, killing four people injuring nine others. Police were
Speaker 1: called onto the scene. They got there within three minutes
Speaker 1: and killed the suspect, but not before he could do
Speaker 1: so much fucking damage. And if you've been watching the
Speaker 1: reports come in, one of those that were critically wounded
Speaker 1: was an officer who this I believe was like their
Speaker 1: tenth or so day on the job. They just graduated
Speaker 1: from police academy. It's just, you know, folks, it is.
Speaker 1: We live in the wild, wild West, we really do,
Speaker 1: and it is really difficult to come on here. Every
Speaker 1: feels like every other week there is another mass shooting.
Speaker 1: And you know, funny enough, but not funny. We are
Speaker 1: in I believe that this is the one hundredth day
Speaker 1: of the year and we have had over one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty shootings like that. It just doesn't even make
Speaker 1: any fucking sense, you know. And what is what is
Speaker 1: worse about this one is that it is in a
Speaker 1: red state that has all of these fucking you know,
Speaker 1: wild wild West laws for ceiling carry and anybody and
Speaker 1: everybody can get a gun with a slurpee and you know,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna blame it on oh, this person was
Speaker 1: mentally disturbed. Do we think other nations don't have people
Speaker 1: that are mentally disturbed? They just don't have access to
Speaker 1: fucking guns in the way that we do. Do we
Speaker 1: think that anyone else doesn't suffer from some type of
Speaker 1: you know, mental trauma people do all around the world.
Speaker 1: That you just that in America you can get a
Speaker 1: gun easier. Well, of course, now then you can get
Speaker 1: like anything, including an abortion which on Friday, six PM,
Speaker 1: we had two conflicting rulings come down on myth of pristone,
Speaker 1: the abortion pill, which if the judge in Texas, the
Speaker 1: Trump backed judge in Texas, if that ruling holds, then
Speaker 1: myth of pristone, which was approved twenty years ago by
Speaker 1: the FDA, is another way for the GOP to say,
Speaker 1: fuck precedent, we don't care, right, so they can pull
Speaker 1: anything down, bring anything to court. Law and order is
Speaker 1: just it was their terminology for the Republican Party and
Speaker 1: they clearly don't care about it anymore. And so I
Speaker 1: don't know where we find ourselves, dear friends, but I
Speaker 1: don't feel like we are in a good place, and
Speaker 1: it feels like things are getting aggressively worse on a
Speaker 1: passing daily basis. So I'm trying to look for something hopeful,
Speaker 1: Hopefully something good will happen this week. I hope you
Speaker 1: all had a RESTful weekend, if you celebrated the holiday
Speaker 1: or you just you know, took some time to do
Speaker 1: something that was joyful and very much needed. And yeah,
Speaker 1: because we need to ground ourselves in something, because this
Speaker 1: ship is just it's increasingly wild every single day. Coming
Speaker 1: up next, my conversation with my friend and co host
Speaker 1: of Democracy ishwjahat Ali. We get into a really good
Speaker 1: conversation about religion and politics, and you know, talking about
Speaker 1: the weaponization of quote unquote Christian white Evangelical Christianity, and
Speaker 1: we talk about Ramadan, which was jahat is in the
Speaker 1: midst of celebrating and you know the fact that you
Speaker 1: have this Islam right has one point seven billion followers,
Speaker 1: and you would think in this country, you know, that
Speaker 1: says that we are you know, open for all people.
Speaker 1: There's not a mention, right, not in the same way
Speaker 1: that you hear about Passover, not in the same way
Speaker 1: that you obviously hear about Easter. No acknowledgment whatsoever. And
Speaker 1: I talk about that with Wasjahat and what it feels
Speaker 1: like to be in the religion that is so very large, right,
Speaker 1: with so many followers and practitioners, and not have that acknowledgement.
Speaker 1: It's pretty much you know, invisible in the United States,
Speaker 1: and what that feels like. So that is coming up next, folks.
Speaker 1: I am so excited to welcome back to Woke Appa
Speaker 1: Daily my friend and co host of Democracy Ish Wajahat Ali,
Speaker 1: who is also the author of the book Go Back
Speaker 1: to Where You Came From and other helpful recommendations on
Speaker 1: how to become American one. It is Ramadan, So happy
Speaker 1: Ramadan to you. I realize that while Ramadan is in
Speaker 1: my calendar, right, it's I have all my holidays that
Speaker 1: come up, and you know, I reach out and you know,
Speaker 1: share well wishes to my friends of different religious affiliations.
Speaker 1: You get no love in this country. Huh andy, Nobody
Speaker 1: mention it anytime. No, it is not, it is not.
Speaker 1: There is no edmurbach On like on any network. No
Speaker 1: nobody maybe other than Amen or medi will mention anything.
Speaker 1: Um So, I just like, what is that experience like
Speaker 1: to be a part of a religion that is like
Speaker 1: a billion plus strong, right, Like, it's not a small religion. Uh,
Speaker 1: and yet there is no recognition in this in this country.
Speaker 1: It Yeah, we've got numbers, we've got challenges and problems,
Speaker 1: but we've also got numbers. So if other religions are
Speaker 1: struggling right now, like I have Jewish friends, they're like,
Speaker 1: you know what we enview about Muslims. I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of you, there's only except million of us.
Speaker 1: It's one of the situations that even though it was
Speaker 1: born and raised in this country, right and you know
Speaker 1: this as a black queer woman, we're not trying to
Speaker 1: replace anybody. And I mentioned this because the white supremacist
Speaker 1: and I always want to mention to people it's a
Speaker 1: white supremacist conspiracy theory that came from the swamps of
Speaker 1: the KKK Nazis that now over a third of Americans
Speaker 1: believe because one political party in particular, and one network
Speaker 1: in particular, Fox has mainstreamed it that we are trying
Speaker 1: to actively replace and weaken Western white Christian civilization. Right.
Speaker 1: And I always joke with folks that if you only knew,
Speaker 1: we didn't want to replace you. We just wanted to
Speaker 1: invite to the party. We just wanted some acknowledgment, We
Speaker 1: wanted a speaking rule. And I say all this because
Speaker 1: we wanted to be a character with a background. Yeah,
Speaker 1: character like I don't know, an arc, a name, an
Speaker 1: arc like something, just a few lines, you know. And
Speaker 1: I say that because when you grow up in this country,
Speaker 1: you know, you learn the Christian songs, you you learned
Speaker 1: of about the Jewish traditions, and Jews had to mainstream themselves, right,
Speaker 1: even with Judeo Christian. That's a recent innovation that's only
Speaker 1: like one hundred years old. Before then, it was very
Speaker 1: clearly Christian. You would never add the word Judeo, right,
Speaker 1: Like probably even fifty years ago you would you would
Speaker 1: have done that. So that's new. The fact that America says,
Speaker 1: oh Jews welcome, pass over, you know, wonderful Hanuka. Nothing
Speaker 1: for Muslims, even though, like you said, one point seven
Speaker 1: billion people over fourteen hundred years of Islamic civilization. So
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, we were just like, we're doing
Speaker 1: eds for something called rama, and your teachers like, what's that?
Speaker 1: Are you making something up? Like I swear to God
Speaker 1: we're not. I just need to take a day off.
Speaker 1: Which day, well, you know, we have to look at
Speaker 1: the moon. So some people are gonna do Tuesday and
Speaker 1: some people are gonna do Wednesday. Like what the hell
Speaker 1: are you talking about it? Like I swear a teacher,
Speaker 1: I'm not not a con. And then a few years ago,
Speaker 1: coinciding with our Muslim brothers elevation of the White House,
Speaker 1: Barack Obama, you saw a slow you know, our brother
Speaker 1: who prays towards Mecca and says Jesus Christ as his
Speaker 1: Lord and Savior and celebrates Easter and had a reverend
Speaker 1: in each sport openly. But I digress. You saw a
Speaker 1: small trend Danio where you saw the stamp and people
Speaker 1: are like, well, what is this? Who cares about the stamp?
Speaker 1: Like the fact that there's an eat stamp, the fact
Speaker 1: that Lego in Sesame Street over the past couple of
Speaker 1: years on Twitter or Instagram, say Ramadan Mobark or Eve Mobark.
Speaker 1: The fact that Barack Obama and Joe Biden and others
Speaker 1: in the State Department and the White House iftar. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: the White House do an if thar right like a
Speaker 1: Ramdan iftar, and they do a State Department like eat celebration, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I want to remind people, the Trumps
Speaker 1: when they came in, they ended that. Huh, I wonder why.
Speaker 1: So that's one of those situations where you asked a
Speaker 1: simple question. But even if you look at what I
Speaker 1: just said with Trump, why did he continue the other
Speaker 1: celebrations and went out of his way to say, now
Speaker 1: we're not going to do the ead celebration because Muslim
Speaker 1: even though the first I would say, even though Muslims
Speaker 1: have been here for four hundred years, a third of
Speaker 1: the slave trade that was brought here forcibly against its
Speaker 1: will was Muslim. Our blood, our sweat, our tears, our
Speaker 1: labor have fertilized this country. Muhammad Ali, one of the
Speaker 1: most well known athletes of all time who's given the
Speaker 1: honor of lighting the Olympic torch for the ninety six Olympics.
Speaker 1: Muslim even though we're part and parcel of America, we're
Speaker 1: still seen as foreign, as the other and as them.
Speaker 1: And it's one of those interesting situations is how do
Speaker 1: you love a country that doesn't love you back? And
Speaker 1: how does it feel to be American when your country
Speaker 1: says you're both us and them? And that is how
Speaker 1: it is to be a Muslim and to celebrate Ramadan
Speaker 1: growing up in this country. But concisely to answer your
Speaker 1: question the last few years, if you build it, they
Speaker 1: will come. If you teach people, they'll understand. People ain't dumb.
Speaker 1: Slowly but surely people are like, Oh Ramadan, Muslims are fascinating,
Speaker 1: not even water, not even water like. They become more aware,
Speaker 1: they become more empathetic. If you teach people, becomes part
Speaker 1: and parcel of the fabric. Oh halala meat. Oh Muslims
Speaker 1: eat really well. Eat Parties are the bomb. So just
Speaker 1: one of those situations that now at the age of
Speaker 1: forty two, I feel like my kids will finally get
Speaker 1: an America where Ramadan and ed and halal is an
Speaker 1: integral part of the American experience and not seen as
Speaker 1: something as villainous evil foreign and other you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's and I love you for giving that his kind
Speaker 1: of historic breakdown of your experience, because what I experienced
Speaker 1: over Passover with one of my best friends who is Jewish,
Speaker 1: and what she has found. You know, she was raised
Speaker 1: in a kind of hybrid religion household, but as she
Speaker 1: is experiencing and witnessing the rise of anti Semitism in
Speaker 1: this country, she is choosing actively choosing to really really
Speaker 1: ground herself in in Judaism in a way that she
Speaker 1: hadn't you know, ten years ago. And what I'm finding
Speaker 1: is that there are lots of people, whether they are
Speaker 1: Jewish or Muslim, Christian, even of like in spiritual practices,
Speaker 1: doubling down and grounding in faith as the world around
Speaker 1: us becomes more tumultuous. And so I wanted to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts because we love to believe that we are
Speaker 1: a country that has separation of church and state, which
Speaker 1: I always find so interesting when even on our money
Speaker 1: it says in God we trust that at the end
Speaker 1: of each president, regardless of parties, you know, speech, that
Speaker 1: they will God bless the troops and God bless this country.
Speaker 1: Like so it's it's interesting, like we don't pray at
Speaker 1: school as of right now, I'm certain that a second
Speaker 1: term President Trump or a president to Santis would have
Speaker 1: that change. But what do you what do you think
Speaker 1: about this grounding, this kind of doubling down of faith
Speaker 1: that seems to be taking hold, you know, human beings
Speaker 1: since the beginning, since the chromagnet times, ever since we've
Speaker 1: developed the capacity for you know, language and communication and
Speaker 1: higher thinking and art. The latest, the artwork, the earliest
Speaker 1: artwork of our human ancestors, right depicts some belief, uh,
Speaker 1: some idea that we're not alone, that there is a
Speaker 1: metaphysical other. Right. I think it's fundamental to most humans
Speaker 1: to not necessarily subscribe to an organized religion, but to
Speaker 1: be spiritual. I remember David Bowie even said, like you know,
Speaker 1: even though he wasn't religious, but like you know, even
Speaker 1: he finds himself like praying in times of immense crisis. Right. So,
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to humanity, there is it's
Speaker 1: just something they're always ingrained within our narrative and our
Speaker 1: storytelling that wants us to believe that there is something,
Speaker 1: some benelevant force, some being, some and some ether that
Speaker 1: that is made of love and will will protect us
Speaker 1: and comfort us. Okay, organized religion is getting a bad
Speaker 1: rap because organized religion has been used and abused by
Speaker 1: many of its practitioners as a sword against the weak
Speaker 1: and as a shield to protect their power, as a
Speaker 1: bulwark against modernity and progress. Which is why we shouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised n that with gen Z and millennials, there's
Speaker 1: so many nuns, not the nuns who wear the habit,
Speaker 1: but n o ns. That's an actual word. So these
Speaker 1: are people who unaffiliated. They're like, I'm done with Christianity,
Speaker 1: I'm done with Islam, I'm done with can lose any
Speaker 1: organized religion? I'm done. And coming from a religious community,
Speaker 1: you know, you see all these uncles and aunties freak out.
Speaker 1: We're losing them. We're losing them. Why are we losing them?
Speaker 1: It's like what Scott Walker did recently, right, we need
Speaker 1: to do religion in doctrine. We basically was saying, we
Speaker 1: need to do indoctrination skills. How are these Tennessee youth
Speaker 1: you know, doing these protests and how come they're they're
Speaker 1: so upset? Ah, We've failed them. Maybe because they realize
Speaker 1: what you're selling them is toxic and it's killing them
Speaker 1: and they're rebelling against you. Maybe women want equal rights
Speaker 1: and maybe quote unquote minorities want to be treated respectfully.
Speaker 1: And they've seen organized religion used as a weapon, and
Speaker 1: they've seen the prophets turned into political mascots like Jesus
Speaker 1: in this country. So that explains the rise of the
Speaker 1: n O N s. Now, this what's interesting, just because
Speaker 1: gen Z and Millennials in particular have rapidly Daniel, like
Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, like shift. If you look at
Speaker 1: the numbers, it's it's fascinating. Bobby Jones of pr R
Speaker 1: I does this. He's like the shift of people moving
Speaker 1: away from religion and one generation in America, this very
Speaker 1: religious country, that's separation of church and state. But you
Speaker 1: and I, you know, you know you and I know
Speaker 1: that's bs because the white Evangelical Christians have always been
Speaker 1: their own party, if you will, and unfortunately that has
Speaker 1: been a party of violence and a party of white
Speaker 1: supremacy and not at all. But I'm just keeping it real.
Speaker 1: But he says, the shift is stunning, But those nuns
Speaker 1: are still spiritual, Daniel, that's what's interesting. You're still searching.
Speaker 1: So it's like people say, oh, they're all leaving. I'm like,
Speaker 1: they're not. They're leaving you, right, But they're still searching
Speaker 1: for meaning, for purpose, for community. And I think what
Speaker 1: the pandemic has done, Daniel, and with the rise of
Speaker 1: incomm inequality and the rise of isolation and social media,
Speaker 1: people desperately want belonging, They want community. They see that
Speaker 1: materialism and the likes in the Instagram posts and the
Speaker 1: tiktoks don't give them that sense of fulfillment, which is
Speaker 1: why I think you're seeing some of these folks double down.
Speaker 1: The other reason you're seeing people double down is in
Speaker 1: the face of modernity and in the face of crisis
Speaker 1: and the face of challenges, instead of expanding themselves, they're
Speaker 1: restricting themselves. Instead of creating a store where the tent
Speaker 1: is bigger and has shade for everyone, they're like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to make sure my tent protects me and my tribe.
Speaker 1: And this is where you see religious chauvinism and white
Speaker 1: supremacy in Jesus being used as a mascot for you know,
Speaker 1: for white supremacy and white Evangical Christianity, where it's like
Speaker 1: I will reject minority, I will double down, I will
Speaker 1: bury my head in the sand, and I will I
Speaker 1: will use religion as a sword against my perceived enemies,
Speaker 1: and I will use it as a shield to protect
Speaker 1: my power and privilege which is under threat by forces
Speaker 1: I cannot comprehend. It's too confusing. And so this is,
Speaker 1: you know, my explanation of the doubling down in which
Speaker 1: in one way which is negative, which I hope is clear,
Speaker 1: and the type of return to it's just laugh all
Speaker 1: the time, fige it. I always feel bad, like like
Speaker 1: I never get on the grift because I'm not a
Speaker 1: good businessman, like like the Gwyddeth Paltrows and the goops
Speaker 1: of the world are now like frigging charging ten dollars
Speaker 1: for Tumeric. I'm like tumeric, the stuff that my grandmother
Speaker 1: has that we eat every day. That shit is being
Speaker 1: sold at like whole food for twenty bucks. Remember bone broth,
Speaker 1: They used to like give away those bones for free,
Speaker 1: and like Jamaicans and Muslims are like yay, And now
Speaker 1: freaking white women have discovered bone broth, and now this
Speaker 1: crap sells like thirty bucks. You're like mother effing Gwyneth
Speaker 1: Paltrow and like the whole wellness industry is so amusing
Speaker 1: to me because all the stuff that we've been doing
Speaker 1: Daniel for a thousands of years, meditation, gratitude, intermitted fasting,
Speaker 1: which is I'm doing right now like rich White, So like,
Speaker 1: you know what we just discovered intermitted fasting and meditation
Speaker 1: and tumeric give us a thousand dollars. So that is
Speaker 1: like a succinct way of saying the return of people
Speaker 1: in modernity who rejected organized religion but are now going
Speaker 1: to these old school rituals to find peace. Ain't that something? One?
Speaker 1: It's hilarious and you recognize it so much. I mean,
Speaker 1: I will say, my mother owns a yoga studio on
Speaker 1: Long Island, and you know, a lot of what has
Speaker 1: grounded her has been like from her childhood, right and
Speaker 1: obviously like you know, uh, Buddhism and Hinduism, and then
Speaker 1: like the recognition that you know her mother was half
Speaker 1: Indian because my great grandmother was from Calcutta, right like,
Speaker 1: and so there is just like this connection and interwovenness.
Speaker 1: But there's always when it comes to whiteness, there is
Speaker 1: always this like Columbus saying of shit um and not
Speaker 1: necessarily an integration. It's like we have found this, and
Speaker 1: so we're offering your stuff back to you at higher
Speaker 1: value tumeric for example, oxtail. Okay, well, let me just
Speaker 1: put it out there, oxtail. I think that what is
Speaker 1: really what is really fascinating, and this has been my
Speaker 1: kind of journey, is that I have always been intrigued
Speaker 1: by various religions. And you know, I went to a
Speaker 1: Catholic university and had to take religion of the world,
Speaker 1: as you know, as in order to graduate, and it
Speaker 1: was one of the most eye opening. And I think
Speaker 1: that because I was raised as a Protestant, but not
Speaker 1: really because I stopped going to church when I was
Speaker 1: ten and then don't had never subscribed to any organized
Speaker 1: religion because I thought that it was oppressive by nature.
Speaker 1: HAVE always been a person that is very interested in faith.
Speaker 1: And you and I joke about this weekly on democracy
Speaker 1: issue when I say I have a mustard state of faith.
Speaker 1: I have become increasingly more spiritual and more practice and
Speaker 1: more linked to tradition over the past several years. And
Speaker 1: I couldn't decide whether that was coming out of the
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, I'm getting older, or like the
Speaker 1: fact that the world feels like it's going to ship,
Speaker 1: and I need to around in something a combination of
Speaker 1: all of those things. But I think by virtue of
Speaker 1: not subscribing to one religion or the other, I have
Speaker 1: kept this this sense of wonder and interest, and I
Speaker 1: I have what I realize while celebrating Passover with one
Speaker 1: of my best friends and our husband, is that that's
Speaker 1: what Republicans don't want people to have, which is this
Speaker 1: sense of wonder, this mutual respect and community building and
Speaker 1: connectedness that allows me to want to be interesting in
Speaker 1: what your experience during Ramadan is like and what the
Speaker 1: principles of Islam teach about that, right while still holding
Speaker 1: the fact that it's not my religion, but I'm interested
Speaker 1: to know how one of my friends is grounded in
Speaker 1: practice on a regular day. Like does that make sense that?
Speaker 1: Like it does make it? Because Yeah, precisely what it
Speaker 1: became an aha moment for me is exactly what they're
Speaker 1: trying to denounce in a race. I'm not surprised at all,
Speaker 1: because you know, God is love and God is truth,
Speaker 1: and all paths lead to God and not everyone is
Speaker 1: meant to be Muslim or on the path that's according
Speaker 1: to Muslims, right, But God and nonetheless is the creator.
Speaker 1: And so what's the role then of the code quote
Speaker 1: believer or the person who ascribes to the religious tradition.
Speaker 1: What it should be is that you are on your
Speaker 1: way and I'm on my way, but you walk this
Speaker 1: world and service to God and to others. So when
Speaker 1: you see how religion, specifically say Islam and in some
Speaker 1: parts spread, never through the paw taking, never through the sword. Really,
Speaker 1: how I'm talking about how it really entered heart standing
Speaker 1: all like, how it really inspired people. It was through
Speaker 1: men and women who did their rituals, followed their path,
Speaker 1: were surrounded by non Muslims, and they treated them with kindness, compassion,
Speaker 1: and love. They gave him shelter when they had no shelter.
Speaker 1: They gave him food when they were hungry, They game
Speaker 1: water when they were thirsty, and they expected nothing in return,
Speaker 1: and they fasted, They gave charity, they prayed, they had
Speaker 1: a discipline. And then folks saw that and said, that
Speaker 1: person seems content, that person seems happy. I want to
Speaker 1: taste what that person's drinking. And that's how it entered
Speaker 1: into people's heart. That's how it stuck. And when you
Speaker 1: see people like who, then you know convert to religion
Speaker 1: or become more religious as they get older, and who
Speaker 1: are stable people? And you're asking me, like, what did it?
Speaker 1: And they said, someone was kind to me. You know,
Speaker 1: someone was generous to me. Someone had a type of
Speaker 1: discipline that I really envied, someone had some balance in
Speaker 1: their life. It was very attractive to me. It was
Speaker 1: very beautiful. The reason why so many people turn away
Speaker 1: from religion is because what they're offering, and I say
Speaker 1: for all organized religions right oftentimes. I was having a
Speaker 1: conversation with the reverend who's also a PhD doctor, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's Christian, and he said, you see, you're
Speaker 1: talking about his own church. Corruption, the misogyny, the abuse
Speaker 1: of power, the taking of the wealth. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: sounds like most mosques, sounds like most synagogues. You know,
Speaker 1: people using an abusing God, the language of God, the
Speaker 1: prophets to maintain power for themselves and anyone and everything
Speaker 1: that is hostile to them or threatens that power can
Speaker 1: be erased. And this is how religion is so powerful,
Speaker 1: is that you don't with religion and the abuse of religion.
Speaker 1: You could say I have the celestial stamp of approval
Speaker 1: to put my boot on your neck? Who are you
Speaker 1: to go against God? And by the way, I just
Speaker 1: happen to be a vice region of God just because
Speaker 1: I say it right. And so when this happens, Daniel,
Speaker 1: you see the disconnect as you were mentioned that here
Speaker 1: you are, that you you know, grew up on a way,
Speaker 1: but you're not religious. You don't scrap it organized religion.
Speaker 1: But you find yourself at this day of your life
Speaker 1: finding benefit and solace and comfort from religious communities and practices.
Speaker 1: And you're trying to reconcile how these things work. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the reconciliation is because this has been
Speaker 1: around for thousands of years. That wisdom, whether you believe
Speaker 1: in God or not, has been passed on from thousand
Speaker 1: years Buddhist Monks, Hindus, Jews. They must be onto something, Daniel.
Speaker 1: People are saying generation after generation like meditation, breathing, giving
Speaker 1: charity helps you. But then once that has been packaged
Speaker 1: by Republicans as a vehicle of domination and white supremacy
Speaker 1: and hate, you see what happens when fear and loathing
Speaker 1: replace love and service. And you see it in the
Speaker 1: United States of America where they're literally denying children from
Speaker 1: low income families food and lunch. And you sit there
Speaker 1: and go, how do you reconcile that with the teachings
Speaker 1: and life of Jesus, who gave us life for the
Speaker 1: most poor and downtrodden. And you don't, because for them,
Speaker 1: Jesus has been hijacked into a white supremacist mascot with
Speaker 1: an air of fifteen, who's not even writing, who's not
Speaker 1: even driving the pickup truck he's writing shotgun. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. You are. You are a prophet in
Speaker 1: your own right. The way that you're always able to
Speaker 1: intertwine so many different issues and fabrics of our being
Speaker 1: to bring clarity to the situations that we are living
Speaker 1: with and these complex crises. It's just so beautiful, my friend.
Speaker 1: I talk too much, but I made today. You did,
Speaker 1: and you do and I love it and it's why
Speaker 1: I love doing a show with you each week. So, folks,
Speaker 1: if you have not, if you have not what you
Speaker 1: should have picked up watch this book, go back to
Speaker 1: where you came from, and other helpful recommendations on how
Speaker 1: to become American, get it everywhere that you get your books,
Speaker 1: and make sure that each Thursday you were checking out
Speaker 1: us our dynamic duo on democracy the Ish, which goes
Speaker 1: up every Thursday. My friend, I thank you so much
Speaker 1: for your time, your brilliance and insight. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I'll be talking to you in a few days. In
Speaker 1: a few days, yea. That is it for me today.
Speaker 1: Dear friends on woke a f as always Power to
Speaker 1: the people and to all the people. Power, get woke
Speaker 1: and stay woke as fuck.