Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This
Speaker 1: is Col's Week in Review with Ryan col Klaian. Here's CAP.
Speaker 1: A lot of time when we cover grizzly bear deterrence
Speaker 1: on the show, we get sucked in by the high
Speaker 1: tech stuff, especially in Japan Ai facial recognition, bear spray
Speaker 1: squirting drones, solar powered robot, wolves with glowing red eyes,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So it's refreshing when people come
Speaker 1: up with their own low tech DIY solutions. At the
Speaker 1: top of the list is eighty year old Kazuko Takahashi,
Speaker 1: a woman living in Yawata Prefecture, one of the northernmost
Speaker 1: parts of mainland Japan, and a bear encounter hotspot. According
Speaker 1: to the excellent bear tracking website kumamapp dot com, Yawat
Speaker 1: has had two hundred and seventy bear conflict incidents just
Speaker 1: in the past thirty days. Boy, I guarantee you I'm
Speaker 1: saying iwa te wrong. Not sure where my accent's coming from,
Speaker 1: but I'm doing my best. Just Montana kids sitting here.
Speaker 1: In Kazuko's case, the bear conflict started as these things
Speaker 1: off and do with a yappy dog late last month,
Speaker 1: around dusk, her shiba enu began barking in the backyard,
Speaker 1: and when she looked out the window, she saw a
Speaker 1: brown bear chasing the dog around the house. Instead of
Speaker 1: letting her pooch fend for itself, Kazuko used a long
Speaker 1: lint roller mop as a cane to stand up from
Speaker 1: her chair, opened her sliding glass doors and called the
Speaker 1: dog inside, But she only had time to close the
Speaker 1: screen door before the bear came bursting through it into
Speaker 1: her living room. According to the Asahi Shimbun newspaper, Kazuko
Speaker 1: stood her ground, waved the lint roller, spread her arms
Speaker 1: to take up the maximum out of space, and shouted, hey,
Speaker 1: don't mess with me. The bear spooked and took off
Speaker 1: through the open door. It's possible that the bruin realized
Speaker 1: he could technically qualify as a giant piece of lint
Speaker 1: and didn't want to get rolled up and thrown away.
Speaker 1: Kazuko told reporters that she's not planning to change your
Speaker 1: lifestyle after the incident, other than keeping her shiba enu
Speaker 1: inside most of the time and on a leash when
Speaker 1: she takes him out for walks. But maybe she can
Speaker 1: trade notes with our own Giannis ptell Us, who wants
Speaker 1: whacked a grizz with nothing more than a hiking poll.
Speaker 1: Just think of what could happen if they joined forces.
Speaker 1: This week, we've got legislation, regulation, legal tests of the
Speaker 1: cra and so much more. But first, I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you about my week. And my week was the
Speaker 1: Boy and the puppies first camping trip, celebrated our nation's independence.
Speaker 1: Night one, we made it to Randa Williams house, where
Speaker 1: we grilled salmon and pork ribs, then camped in their yard,
Speaker 1: which was a good test run of how three humans
Speaker 1: and three dogs would live in a twelve foot camper.
Speaker 1: The next morning, we hit the road and we tried
Speaker 1: to go to a spot that I swear to you
Speaker 1: we always had to ourselves when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: It was packed full of people, which is why I
Speaker 1: never go to lakes. Lakes are just big people attract.
Speaker 1: So then we pivoted to another spot and came across
Speaker 1: what I would describe as gut wrenching and god awful
Speaker 1: seasonal mega mansion development at a scale that I just
Speaker 1: didn't think existed yet here in my home state. This
Speaker 1: is stuff that was once prime grazing ground for beef
Speaker 1: and wild critters. And I know this has been going
Speaker 1: on for a while, I just had personally not seen it.
Speaker 1: Huge homes on the edges of may meadows, sometimes right
Speaker 1: in the middle, brutally visible from all angles, and in
Speaker 1: my opinion, actively devaluing the landscape, the very thing the
Speaker 1: occasional occupants presumably came for. So now I'm trying to
Speaker 1: keep my happy face on for the fam. Now I
Speaker 1: get sucked down into deep depressive thoughts and feelings, and
Speaker 1: instead of heading towards an easily accessible area where I'm
Speaker 1: sure is going to be equally destroyed, because I'm now
Speaker 1: convinced that everything is horrible and people a fide. So
Speaker 1: I jerked the wheel down an old two track that
Speaker 1: was in horrible condition back when I was in high school,
Speaker 1: and with every deep pothole and spine jarring rock, my
Speaker 1: spirits returned just a little bit, just a little. The
Speaker 1: baby boy was bouncing like a popcorn kernel little hot
Speaker 1: pan amongst Mom and the dogs in the back seat.
Speaker 1: We creaked and groaned and seesawed and yeehawed just a
Speaker 1: few measly miles into the timber and parked in the
Speaker 1: first opening we could find declared that camp I was
Speaker 1: still on guard and waiting for more spoilage of my
Speaker 1: childhood playground. But the road was wonderfully absent of people,
Speaker 1: and the old iron tinged creek wonderfully much the same
Speaker 1: as when I first explored it back in high school, which,
Speaker 1: if you need to know, is nearing thirty years ago.
Speaker 1: I used to make the drive up here in a
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three Chevy Celebrity, all brown inside, all brown outside,
Speaker 1: a sedan that smelled of someone's grandma, but had trunk
Speaker 1: space for all manner out door gear. The edges of
Speaker 1: the creek certainly owed more human traffic than I remembered,
Speaker 1: but I didn't see a soul. I got some fish
Speaker 1: on the line in between diaper changes and feedings, wild
Speaker 1: high country cutthroat trout, not many, as the creek's too
Speaker 1: high and old and cold and sterile for a big population,
Speaker 1: And the big fish had the same feeling of age,
Speaker 1: the type that upon cupping a hook jawed male, that
Speaker 1: sagging skin melts between your fingers, and instead of thinking
Speaker 1: of fish filets in a hot pan, you have visions
Speaker 1: of the old folks home of transparent loose skin, things
Speaker 1: that make you feel mortal and uneasy, not get your
Speaker 1: stomach rumbling and thinking back on it was the feeling
Speaker 1: of the old folks home that kept us from overfishing
Speaker 1: this spot in high school. It was special. It wasn't tricky,
Speaker 1: but we had reverence for the old fish in obscure
Speaker 1: places we could call our own. On this particular trip,
Speaker 1: when mom took a snooze, I strapped the boy to
Speaker 1: my chest, dropped fly boxes into the diaper along with
Speaker 1: breast milk and a backup bottle of formula and a
Speaker 1: pile of diapers. We hoofed it fast through the blowdown,
Speaker 1: having to double back often to help the puppy through
Speaker 1: and over and under the tumbled lodge pole. It was
Speaker 1: evening and we scraped through the brush at a log
Speaker 1: jam turned beaver dam and caught the only two fish
Speaker 1: we saw. Rising in my mind, a big evening vision
Speaker 1: of working my way methodically up this stretch creeped into
Speaker 1: my head. Then the boy blew up like a late
Speaker 1: July storm. Big noises from both ends were ripping, and
Speaker 1: it came on with not much warning. So instead of
Speaker 1: working at fishing, I worked at fatherhood rapid changing diapers
Speaker 1: while keeping the horse flies and mosquitoes at bay, feeding
Speaker 1: through all the breast milk and the formula, and thinking
Speaker 1: it's only about a mile back to the road, but
Speaker 1: it's going to be a long mile. I also got
Speaker 1: to think about why this spot exists and still holds
Speaker 1: the wonderful opportunity the same stretch provided in my youth,
Speaker 1: Considering that now it's in close proximity to a pop
Speaker 1: up Jackson Hole or aspen or deer valley type of
Speaker 1: vibe what I would call destruction of country that started
Speaker 1: out perfect. This place is in wilderness. It has a
Speaker 1: road that gets out close enough, but you must have
Speaker 1: the drive to explore on foot beyond the road to
Speaker 1: get to this spot. It's a place in its natural state.
Speaker 1: We have not tried to quote improve it like the
Speaker 1: Front Country calamity. We drove through, obviously with a small
Speaker 1: puppy and a month old infant on my chest. It's
Speaker 1: not an extreme feat, just another version and means of access.
Speaker 1: It's not a grand adventure, but for me it was
Speaker 1: an incredibly impactful reminder of my wilderness and why wilderness matters,
Speaker 1: Why are roadless areas matter, and why wilderness study areas matter.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see it very clearly in my high school
Speaker 1: days or when I was really making a living guiding
Speaker 1: in wilderness areas, but I see it now. Eventually these
Speaker 1: places which if you were to combine WSAs inventory roadless
Speaker 1: and designated wilderness, that's less than a third of our
Speaker 1: shared public lands. Somewhere in that like, twenty six percent
Speaker 1: of our six hundred and forty ish million acres are
Speaker 1: managed under the WSAA designated wilderness in inventory roadless designations,
Speaker 1: So two thirds of our six hundred and forty ish
Speaker 1: million acres will see some form of serious change development
Speaker 1: through changes in travel management plans, changes in administration priorities
Speaker 1: i e. Critical minerals or renewable energy. It's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: sometimes dramatically, sometimes not. And I can't help but think,
Speaker 1: don't we owe it to ourselves to steward the less
Speaker 1: than a third in such a way that preserves these opportunities,
Speaker 1: not for us or the baby boys generation or foreign administration,
Speaker 1: but in perpetuity. Let's allow young kids to take a
Speaker 1: crack at an old fish. Help me out, as well
Speaker 1: as the amazing staff at Backcountry Hunters and anglers by
Speaker 1: becoming a member today, we need you. Moving on to
Speaker 1: the Farm Bill. What a lot of folks would understand
Speaker 1: as the largest conservation package that any country passes. That
Speaker 1: is the Farm Bill, and why I think it's inadequately
Speaker 1: named anyway. The House version of the Farm Bill has
Speaker 1: passed the House, the Senate version has been introduced by
Speaker 1: Old John Boozman of Arkansas, and now the Senate and
Speaker 1: the House are debating how to get this thing passed.
Speaker 1: The last Farm Bill passed back in twenty eighteen and
Speaker 1: it expired in twenty twenty three. Since then, short term
Speaker 1: extensions have continued many key programs, but that approach lets
Speaker 1: things slip through the cracks and prevents farmers who count
Speaker 1: on the bills programs from planning ahead. Certain parts of
Speaker 1: the new draft farm Bill would carry on programs that
Speaker 1: have been cornerstones of wildlife manage since the nineteen fifties,
Speaker 1: like the Conservation Reserve Program CRP. CRP compensates farmers when
Speaker 1: they take land out of egg production and manage it,
Speaker 1: typically for native grasses. Oftentimes the stuff can still be
Speaker 1: haid and grazed under specific management guidelines. This updated Farm
Speaker 1: Bill would increase payments to farmers for their acreage for
Speaker 1: the first time since the nineteen eighties, help pay for
Speaker 1: habitat improvements like prescribed burns and fun things like fencing
Speaker 1: and water infrastructure. As one micro example of why the
Speaker 1: Farm Bill needs to be constantly updated. Back in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: virtual fencing where animals wearing collars receive noise in electronic
Speaker 1: stimulus deterrence from crossing boundaries wasn't widely used because it
Speaker 1: was so expensive and it was not covered in the
Speaker 1: previous bill. But now those systems have become very cost effective,
Speaker 1: and if you can corral herd effectively without any physical barrier,
Speaker 1: the benefits to wildlife migrations are enormous. This draft bill
Speaker 1: would incentivize the technology for the first time entirely. New
Speaker 1: pieces of policy would also be added, like a forest
Speaker 1: conservation easement program in a state conservation assistance program. A
Speaker 1: great deep dive on the whole bill by Dak Collins
Speaker 1: is available over at outdoor Life. Go check it out there.
Speaker 1: A House version of the bill passed back in April.
Speaker 1: Like I said, so the future may be bright for
Speaker 1: the Senate version. Let's encourage these folks to hash it
Speaker 1: out get something done here. Jumping over to Oregon, a
Speaker 1: new lawsuit filed has the potential to overturn every existing
Speaker 1: management plan on federal public land across the country, every
Speaker 1: timber or mining lease, every ski resort permit, every hunting
Speaker 1: or fishing management plan, every wind or solar farm. The
Speaker 1: tremor that could cause this avalanche is the Congressional Review Act,
Speaker 1: which we've covered here many, many times is the CRA.
Speaker 1: Over the past few months, we've covered the Congressional Review Act.
Speaker 1: It's the policy tool that Republican lawmakers have used to
Speaker 1: open up the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge and the headwaters
Speaker 1: of the Boundary Waters to resource extraction. But the cr
Speaker 1: it is actually an old law established back in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety six. How it's being used today is what's new
Speaker 1: or novel. Originally, the CRA required new regulations issued by
Speaker 1: federal agencies to come before Congress before they went into effect.
Speaker 1: Congress had sixty working days to review each regulation and
Speaker 1: could take a simple majority vote about whether to revoke it.
Speaker 1: This was an extremely rare occurrence until twenty seventeen. It
Speaker 1: was used exactly once. When Trump took office, however, the
Speaker 1: rules started getting used much more often than last year.
Speaker 1: The administration expanded it even further by arguing that public
Speaker 1: land management plans were subject to the same review because
Speaker 1: they quote unquote prescribed policy in the same way that
Speaker 1: regulations do. Even more creatively, they argued that the sixty
Speaker 1: day CRA clock began not when the management plan had
Speaker 1: been implemented, but instead whenever a lawmaker queried a particular plan.
Speaker 1: That's how Congress voted to overturn the management plans for
Speaker 1: the Boundary Waters and Artic National Wildlife Refuge, as well
Speaker 1: as other protected land in Montana, North Dakota, and Wyoming.
Speaker 1: And I should say like protected land, that's kind of
Speaker 1: like a pretty broad term. Here in Montana, we were
Speaker 1: talking about the Powder River Country, which had a previous
Speaker 1: resource management plan. North Dakota same thing, Wyoming, same thing.
Speaker 1: That resource management plan provided lots of things in play
Speaker 1: for the extractive industries and had other things not in play,
Speaker 1: but at the same time not completely off the table
Speaker 1: either because you just need a new resource management plan.
Speaker 1: Hopefully that makes sense. But as we mentioned a couple
Speaker 1: weeks ago, the use of the CIRA puts every other
Speaker 1: management plan up in the air, and this week an
Speaker 1: anti logging group called Cascadia Wild Lance is turning this
Speaker 1: use of the CRA to its advantage. The organization filed
Speaker 1: a complaint claiming that a timber project on Blm Land
Speaker 1: in western Oregon is in fact illegal. The logging operation
Speaker 1: was approved through a manage plan in twenty sixteen, but
Speaker 1: Cascadia argues that if all management plans prescribe policy and
Speaker 1: can therefore be reviewed and revoked by Congress under the CRA,
Speaker 1: then this particular management plan technically never went into effect
Speaker 1: because it was never submitted to Congress for review. That
Speaker 1: would make the logging operation de facto illegal. This is
Speaker 1: a seemingly credible interpretation following from the Trump administration's use
Speaker 1: of the CRA. If Cascadia were to win, it would
Speaker 1: be open season on all other diligently thought out multiple
Speaker 1: use plans across the country, including those overseeing wildlife, which
Speaker 1: animal rights groups exist to target. Even worse, the CRA
Speaker 1: stipulates that once a regulation is thrown out, it can't
Speaker 1: be reissued in the same form. That would mean a
Speaker 1: more or less permanent wrench thrown in the works. We
Speaker 1: still have a ways to go on this one. We're
Speaker 1: not talking about imminent disaster yet, but this is what
Speaker 1: comes from monkey around with the rules. We'll keep you
Speaker 1: up to date on this one. Jumping over to Vermont,
Speaker 1: bit of good news from up north, where the Vermont
Speaker 1: Supreme Court has upheld trapping and coyote hunting rights after
Speaker 1: a challenge by animal rights groups. Several years ago, the
Speaker 1: Vermont state legislature required the Department of Fish and Wildlife
Speaker 1: to establish best management practices for fur bearer trapping, as
Speaker 1: well as regulations for pursuing coyotes with dogs. The department
Speaker 1: did so according to the established protocols, including significant public
Speaker 1: comment as soon as the rules were issued. For animal
Speaker 1: rights groups immediately sued, arguing that portions of the rags
Speaker 1: that defined control of dog and what exactly constituted public
Speaker 1: trail violated the legislative intent of the state's game laws.
Speaker 1: They also challenged setback exemptions for traps laden water and ice.
Speaker 1: A lower court denied these suits, stating that the rules
Speaker 1: were in fact consistent with the laws on the books
Speaker 1: and followed safe hunting and trapping practices. This month, the
Speaker 1: state's Supreme Court upheld that decision, writing in part of
Speaker 1: its opinion that the animal rights groups had mischaracterized what
Speaker 1: state law requires to advance their argument. This ruling leaves
Speaker 1: hunting and trapping alone in the Green Mountain state, and
Speaker 1: after what we've seen in Colorado, Oregon and elsewhere, that's
Speaker 1: cause for at least a little celebration. Moving on to
Speaker 1: the crime desk, a number of startling poaching cases came
Speaker 1: out in the last couple of weeks, and I bet
Speaker 1: hearing about them will make your blood boil. And Oregon
Speaker 1: officials busted what they're calling a serial poacher, which is
Speaker 1: like a serial killer, but of the wildlife variety. So
Speaker 1: you may eventually hear this guy on the Meat Eater
Speaker 1: Managing editor Jordan Siller's awesome podcast, Blood Trails, which if
Speaker 1: you have not listened to this, it's great. Where true
Speaker 1: crime meets the great outdoors is how I describe it. Anyhow.
Speaker 1: According to Oregon State Police, forty eight year old former
Speaker 1: corrections officer Christopher Mattson pled guilty to numerous wildlife and
Speaker 1: firearm related charges, including three counts of the unlawful take
Speaker 1: of buck deer, three counts of the unlawful take of
Speaker 1: black bears, and the unlawful take of mule deer. The
Speaker 1: original charges that Mattson faced included even more charges involving
Speaker 1: antlerless elk game birds, hunting outside illegal hours, borrowing big
Speaker 1: game tags, and more. When agreeing to a plea deal,
Speaker 1: the prosecutor often agrees to drop some of the charges,
Speaker 1: which is likely the case in this instance. Still, Madson
Speaker 1: received serious retribution, including twenty four months of probation, a
Speaker 1: lifetime hunting ban, three hundred hours of community service forfeiture
Speaker 1: of firearms and property seized, and over one hundred and
Speaker 1: fourteen thousand dollars in fines. It's a good thing they
Speaker 1: got this guy, though he made a serious toll on
Speaker 1: the public trust. Jay Hall, Oregon Department of Justice Wildlife
Speaker 1: Anti Poaching Resource prosecutor, said Matson's case is quote one
Speaker 1: of the highest damage amounts done to Oregon wildlife by
Speaker 1: any singular actor. This is another example of serial poaching,
Speaker 1: which rises to the level of felony conduct based solely
Speaker 1: on the repeated poaching conduct and impact of one individual
Speaker 1: on Oregon's game animals. Over in Indiana, Warden's nabbed a
Speaker 1: twenty eight year old suspect poacher who is now facing
Speaker 1: over one hundred wildlife related crimes. State officials say that
Speaker 1: the Clark County Sheriff's Department deputies and Warden's set a
Speaker 1: roadblock on the morning of December eighteen after receiving complaints
Speaker 1: about gunshots fired. They stopped Woodrow Snyder and discovered several
Speaker 1: dead deer, as well as several guns that were discarded
Speaker 1: along the roadway. And June, Snyder was taken into custody
Speaker 1: after search warrants turned up additional evidence, which reportedly revealed
Speaker 1: that Snyder and several associates had illegally taken more than
Speaker 1: thirty deer in the twenty twenty five season alone. He
Speaker 1: faces charges for the obstruction of justice, illegal sale of wildlife,
Speaker 1: unlawful take of deer, jackliding, and more. As it stands,
Speaker 1: he could face massive restitution fines if convicted on all
Speaker 1: of those charges. The last poaching case we've got for
Speaker 1: you is a bit more complicated. Prosecutors say that nearly
Speaker 1: forty hunters who thought they'd bought a dream moose hunt
Speaker 1: in Alaska were taken advantage of through an illegal guiding scheme.
Speaker 1: According to court documents, Michael McHale beans started advertising trophy
Speaker 1: moose hunts on the lower Yukon River area in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. Despite lacking the state licenses to act as
Speaker 1: a guide or transporter, multiple groups of potential clients put
Speaker 1: down deposits and in some cases paid in full before
Speaker 1: arriving in rural Alaska, only for Bean to cancel the
Speaker 1: hunts at the last minute and pocket the cash. In
Speaker 1: one case, three hunters arrived and Bean tried to cancel
Speaker 1: the hunt, but they tracked him down and he illegally
Speaker 1: assisted the hunters in hunting moose despite not being licensed
Speaker 1: to do so. All in all, he collected more than
Speaker 1: fifty nine thousand dollars in deposits and advanced payments. He
Speaker 1: pled guilty to wire fraud and Laciact violations related to
Speaker 1: illegal guiding, and was sentenced to pay sixty four thousand
Speaker 1: dollars in restitution and served three years in federal prison.
Speaker 1: That sentence will be tacked onto one. Bean is already
Speaker 1: serving thirty years in state prison for felony sexual assault
Speaker 1: and second ual abuse of a miner. His absolutely horrific
Speaker 1: behavior aside. This case is a reminder for folks to
Speaker 1: verify the licenses and check references on outfitters for bucket
Speaker 1: List trips before putting down any money, particularly as internet
Speaker 1: scams are proliferating. After all, you don't want your bucket
Speaker 1: list moose hunt to turn into nothing more than a
Speaker 1: hill of beans. Eh. Eh. Moving on to bid a
Speaker 1: legislative news in the home state, local outfitters and advocates
Speaker 1: are pushing for a new piece of legislation that would
Speaker 1: protect significant habitat in western Montana. The River Runs Through
Speaker 1: It proposal is named after Norman McLain's seminal novella A
Speaker 1: River Runs Through It, which is set in the same region.
Speaker 1: The proposal would add land to the Bob Marshall and
Speaker 1: Scapegoat wilderness areas and designate additional public land as forest
Speaker 1: restoration areas, recreation areas, and conservation management areas. It would
Speaker 1: also create a new wilderness area in the Nevada Mountains.
Speaker 1: In total, would add around one hundred and thirty thousand
Speaker 1: acres of new wilderness designations, protecting key habitats and migration
Speaker 1: corridors for big game animals such as elk and mule deer.
Speaker 1: The proposal has the support of multiple user groups as
Speaker 1: it would also create new snowmobiling opportunities near the town
Speaker 1: of Sely Lake, as well as required the Forest Service
Speaker 1: to prioritize timber thinning and other active forest management protocols
Speaker 1: throughout the Seely Lake Ranger District. The proposal is still
Speaker 1: in the early stages, but it's worth keeping an eye
Speaker 1: on and starting to drum up support for a proactive
Speaker 1: measure like this. Just so you know, backcountry hunters and
Speaker 1: anglers myself included. I was in there that week. We
Speaker 1: met down with Congressman Ryan Zinki's team and discussed this
Speaker 1: one the last time we were back in DC. It's
Speaker 1: definitely something BHA is supporting and working to find that
Speaker 1: good old fashioned bipartisan support on the hill. Moving on
Speaker 1: to another policy hit, the US Forest Service is revising
Speaker 1: its management plan for over five million acres of public
Speaker 1: land across northeast Oregon and southeast Washington. The Blue Mountain
Speaker 1: Forest Plan revision will impact hunters, anglers, laggers, ranchers, and
Speaker 1: other user groups of the malhir Wallawa, Whitman, and Umatilla
Speaker 1: National Forests. The revision process has been twenty years in
Speaker 1: the making and it will impact some of the best
Speaker 1: habitat and public hunting grounds in the region. Of particular
Speaker 1: interest in the plan are elk security and road density standards,
Speaker 1: or the lack thereof in the current draft Environmental impact statement.
Speaker 1: Those regulations have guided the forest management there for the
Speaker 1: past twenty years and are particularly important for elk, which
Speaker 1: are known to consistently move away from areas with high
Speaker 1: motorized use. US Forest Service will open public comment on
Speaker 1: this revision soon, and conservation groups are urging folks to
Speaker 1: speak up. Head over to our friends at the Theodore
Speaker 1: Roosevelt Conservation Partnership TRCP dotorg for a good breakdown of
Speaker 1: the situation. That's all I got for you this week.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, and remember to write
Speaker 1: in to ask cl that's ask Cal at the Meat
Speaker 1: your dot com. Let us know what's going on in
Speaker 1: your neck the woods. You know we appreciate it. I'll
Speaker 1: talk to you next week. That's the boy. It's been
Speaker 1: strapped my chest here this whole time. M