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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam.

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Speaker 1: My husband's cheated and now I'm the bad guy, all right,

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Speaker 1: Billie Eilish true warning for stalking. My husband had an

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Speaker 1: affair with a woman who is now being stalked and

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Speaker 1: pestered both online and in person. The situation is escalating,

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Speaker 1: and whoever is doing it seems to want people to

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Speaker 1: think that it's.

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Speaker 4: The wife behind all of it. I think it's the butler.

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Speaker 1: This comes from throwa, not a stalker, And if you

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Speaker 1: slash Okay Storytime subred it well, Opie said it in

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Speaker 1: their Reddit username, so they clearly cannot be the stalker.

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Speaker 4: You can read it right here. I'm innocent.

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Speaker 1: Moving fast and fidelity is hard enough as it is,

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Speaker 1: But is it even possible when there are constant reminders

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Speaker 1: and ongoing repercussions almost a year later?

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Speaker 4: Should I tough it out? Or is this a loss?

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Speaker 1: Cause? How do I navigate being put in the position

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Speaker 1: of having to interact with my husband's a fair partner

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Speaker 1: if I want to salvage my own reputation. Earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: I fifty two female, received a phone call from Aby

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Speaker 1: thirty seven female, telling me that she'd been having a

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Speaker 1: year's long affair with my husband Ben fifty nine male.

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Speaker 4: Okay, admission of guilt. Oo.

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Speaker 1: I know Amy only peripherally. We live in a smallish

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Speaker 1: community when we all three work in the same industry.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what made her finally decide to come clean,

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Speaker 1: but she wanted to meet in person to explain her

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Speaker 1: side of the story. When I refused, she showed up

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Speaker 1: at her house and made a scene. I won't get

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Speaker 1: into all the sordid details, but the immediate aftermath was horrendous.

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Speaker 1: Ben and I are currently in therapy, and while we

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Speaker 1: are still together, our future is uncertain at this point.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say that's wrong choice, But he

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Speaker 1: cheated on you for years? Yeah, it just and.

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Speaker 4: Never told you. She had to come and tell you.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't really feel like it's coming from the right place. Maybe,

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Speaker 5: as if.

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Speaker 1: The humiliation of being cheated on wasn't enough. Amy went

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Speaker 1: public about the affair on social media, making numerous video

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Speaker 1: updates about her side of the story. Who cares?

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Speaker 4: How is anyone taking the side of the affair partner?

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Speaker 1: I literally like if I saw like, who cares about

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Speaker 1: your side? Who cares?

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Speaker 5: Apparently enough people to disparage Opie's reputation.

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Speaker 1: She had a fair number of followers on a few

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Speaker 1: different platforms. We also know people in common, so this

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Speaker 1: all circulated quickly around town. To be clear, we are

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Speaker 1: relatively prominent figures where we live, and we own a

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Speaker 1: successful business together. Oh no. Amy described herself as a vulnerable,

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Speaker 1: insecure woman who was swept away by a charming man

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Speaker 1: working in an industry she was trying to get ahead in.

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Speaker 1: It's just the Clinton's. He's strung her along, told her

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Speaker 1: he loved her and played on her emotions.

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Speaker 5: It makes perfect sense now, why I think they're trying

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Speaker 5: to make this worker yop He's trying to Yeah, because

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Speaker 5: they're prominent figure, right, small town, big business dude, It's

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Speaker 5: just the Clinton You gotta have the optics on point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. According to Ben, they hooked up a handful of

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Speaker 1: times over the past three years, usually when they found

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Speaker 1: themselves at an event together without me nikes. He insists

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Speaker 1: there was no emotional involvement and that he had been

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Speaker 1: trying to distance himself from her at the time she

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Speaker 4: That's a bad excuse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, when she started reaching out to you, I

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Speaker 4: Not well, but I was trying.

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Speaker 5: It's like the local arsonist being like I was trying

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Speaker 5: little cup of waters.

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Speaker 4: And I also I started the fire too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, may have started the fire. I still don't know

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Speaker 1: which of these narratives is closest to the truth, and

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Speaker 1: I probably never will. For what it's worth, Ben showed

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Speaker 1: me his phone, and the communit indication he has had

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Speaker 1: with our seems to support a story, though of course

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he deleted the more danging messages.

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Speaker 1: Amy is threatened repeatedly to post proof that there was

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Speaker 1: an actual relationship between them, but as far as I'm aware,

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Speaker 1: has not done. So. I know how this all sounds

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Speaker 1: and how it makes me look staying in this marriage,

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Speaker 1: and I can admit now that I initially directed my

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Speaker 1: anger at Amy and downplayed Ben's involvement, But with everything

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Speaker 1: of scandal, people eventually lost interest in our dirty laundry,

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Speaker 1: how to move forward. I blocked Amy everywhere so I

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Speaker 1: was not tempted to check in on her. Then, about

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Speaker 1: three months ago, I suddenly received a barrage of notifications

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Speaker 1: and direct messages on social media. I was horrified to

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Speaker 1: me of being behind a troll account that was viciously

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Speaker 1: public attacking Amy online, making comments to the effect of

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Speaker 1: her being a salute, a liar, a home wrecker, not

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Speaker 1: welcome in our town. This person had also combed through

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Speaker 1: my social media and was posting pictures of me and Ben,

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Speaker 1: saying that Amy would never have what we have. The

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I speak the biggest ICU of all time. What

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Speaker 5: it's Amy's victimizing herself and being like, see, I should

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Speaker 5: be her, I should.

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Speaker 1: Be with Ben.

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Speaker 4: His wife is terrible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Amy's plethora of online friends had apparently concluded that

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Speaker 4: Was the most likely suspect.

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Speaker 1: Oh P would have to be so stupid to do

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Speaker 1: You would have to be just a really bad troll,

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Speaker 4: But you know there's some people who would try to

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Speaker 4: pull that, be like I should follow myself just because

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Speaker 1: Really, I just want another follower, Yeah, I just want

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Speaker 1: an even nine hundred. I had to make all of

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Speaker 1: my social media private, including my business accounts, but not

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Speaker 1: before having the humiliating experience of a bunch of Internet

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Speaker 1: I recruited a close friend to look into things, since

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Speaker 1: I just wasn't up to it myself and Ben is

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Speaker 1: pretty illiterate when it comes to social media and relationships.

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Speaker 1: This friend went back through Amy's posts, and apparently she

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Speaker 1: has continued making regular video updates about the affair and

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Speaker 1: its fallout. According to these, someone has been stalking and

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Speaker 1: pestering her since she went public about it. Why would

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Speaker 1: you go public about it? Yeah, it's for the followers.

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Speaker 1: I just obviously, no one deserves to be stocked or

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Speaker 5: Rodo This is exactly what Gary Vee was talking about

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Speaker 5: way back in the day, where you like he predicted

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Speaker 5: the future of like streaming, and it's like you just

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Speaker 4: Happens in your life at all time. Yeah, everything is

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Speaker 1: It's like you put yourself out to be like ridiculed

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Speaker 1: and then you're like, oh my god, I'm being ridiculed.

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Speaker 6: It's the what you gonna call it. Any publicity is

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Speaker 6: good publicity. Yeah, that's what I feel, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's not like bad publicity. It's just anything out there

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Speaker 1: Is is me getting famous? It started with nasty, anonymous text

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Speaker 1: messages saying essentially she'd be run out of town. She

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Speaker 1: suspected they were from me. Someone also hand delivered a

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Speaker 1: threatening letter directly to her mailbox. All signs pointed to

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Speaker 5: She's actually sleepwalking and doing all of this to herself

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Speaker 5: without knowing.

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Speaker 1: She feel so guilty. My friend also let me know

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Speaker 1: that the troll account that was ostensibly me went quiet

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Speaker 1: after two or three days, and that Amy had chastised

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Speaker 4: Didn't think it was me doing this.

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Speaker 5: She's like, she's like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait, I

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Speaker 5: to commit a crime. Everyone stop, please stop.

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Speaker 1: Guy stop. A few weeks after all this, Ben and

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Speaker 1: I received a message from Amy's employer regarding some emails

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Speaker 1: he'd been sent. These were all from an anonymous sender,

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Speaker 1: The email address contained Ben's and my initials. Again just

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Speaker 5: Have to be so stupid to do this obvious red hairing.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, they're like, oh, the email says, oh peace

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Speaker 5: And they're like, well, yeah, from an email from ope

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be her, and the cenaer's was my own

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Speaker 5: They're like, well it says it says here, and then

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Speaker 4: They're so smart. It's just that these people are so stupid.

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Speaker 1: Oh god. The gist of it was that certain unnamed,

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Speaker 1: The sender asked him to consider the business implications of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what are you talking about. It's like I found

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Speaker 1: there was anything we could do. Oh my gosh, the

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Speaker 1: fact that Opie has to reach out to a fair

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Speaker 1: partner and be like, hey, we'll help you out after

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Speaker 1: this woman cheated with her husband for years? Is what? Wow,

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Speaker 5: Made you say that this business that they have has

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Speaker 5: I can't imagine putting up with this.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all. And it's got to be so

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, I mean, it's horrifying. It's like, so,

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Speaker 5: You have an entire business together, everyone in town knows you,

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Speaker 1: She says it's unfair that she is the only one

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Speaker 5: Holy GUACAMOLEI the only one suffering the consequences.

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Speaker 1: Of the affairs.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Hey, did you know there's other people that exist in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure the wife of the person.

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Speaker 1: She said. She hasn't quite gone so far as to

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Speaker 4: However, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Please please, there is a little bit left to the story.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy that op is being actively harassed by Amy's audience,

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Speaker 1: Truly if you are like again, not condoning, pestering, stalking,

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Speaker 5: And it's like, obviously, look, if if that break in

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm imagining what the video must look like because

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Honestly, I think just given the fact that she

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Speaker 4: She just has to be someone in the community.

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Speaker 5: It's just the whole vibe is that it's like I'm

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Speaker 4: Also she's doing this to me, so look how terrible

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, she's like, I'm gonna break up this. Well,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and now.

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Speaker 1: She's doing all this pestering and stuff of Ope, so again,

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Speaker 1: I do not like her one bit, but I don't

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Speaker 5: According to her, though, yeah, I need like that sounds

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Speaker 1: Again, if this is actually happening, terrible. I hope she

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Speaker 5: Bro, what your starck doesn't sound your stalker can stalk

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Speaker 4: He doesn't need a van with blacked out windows. It's

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Speaker 5: It just sounds like she's like, what's the thing that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, No, your stalker's following you around in an

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a little bit left to the story.

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Speaker 1: We certainly have more resources available to us than she does.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like every time she has an opening,

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Speaker 1: She says in her videos that she still labs Ban

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Speaker 1: or even just my sanity is going to survive, I

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00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 1: feel there can't be any further communication with her. Does

441
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: keeping her at arm's length make me look culpable for

442
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: the pestimnt? And since Amy is the one with all

443
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 1: the evidence, how can we investigate it on our end

444
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 1: without her cooperation? And that's the end of that story, folks.

445
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 5: I got to say, I don't think keeping someone at

446
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,360
Speaker 5: arm's length will make you look more guilty because typically

447
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 5: people who are like obsessed with harassing someone are like

448
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 5: pretty like active in their zone.

449
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: Right.

450
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 5: It's like they want to they want to see, they

451
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 5: want to reap the rewards of their hard work exactly.

452
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I really.

453
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 5: I'm ninety eight percent sure Amy is just trying to

454
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 5: break up that marriage and get better too.

455
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 1: I quite believe it. Lilith Hyde says if it comes

456
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: out Amy is making police reports and that she is

457
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: the one doing it, she likely goes to jail for

458
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,479
Speaker 1: false reporting.

459
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 5: Dude Donough McGregor, John donough McGregor comments the Jesse Smollett

460
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 5: School of stocks.

461
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wait, is that you'll remember that was?

462
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: You don't know that?

463
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 5: So that was like an actor she told a TV

464
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 5: show And it was like he was like this was

465
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 5: like during like you know, all like the crazy like

466
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 5: political like mag of crap, like back.

467
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: In like twenty sixteen eighteen somewhere around there, and.

468
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 5: He like faked like a hate crime basically, but like

469
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 5: by faking it in like the most like crazy nonsense.

470
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 5: It was like yeah, in the middle of the night

471
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 5: in like Chicago, like he like painted this picture and

472
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 5: then the cops investigating were like, yeah, this is not real,

473
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 5: Like these are yeah really like two people you hired

474
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 5: to do this? Yeah, and like yeah.

475
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what she's been doing. Yeah. So I just again,

476
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: if you guys are ever, you know, experiencing anything like this,

477
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: don't don't don't post about it. Go to the police.

478
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, straight up, don't.

479
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 1: Why would you do that?

480
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's like you're also so if you are

481
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 5: being stoked and you're doing this, you're just like feeding

482
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 5: that person.

483
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: Like yeah, they're just like.

484
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no oh.

485
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: I just like I'm on this street and this street

486
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: right now, and there's something she's live.

487
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 4: I'm on this street, in this street, and there's a

488
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: fan following me.

489
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 5: I just see that, like one of those like Google

490
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 5: AI videos that have been coming out of like all

491
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 5: the fake vloggers.

492
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, with her like.

493
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 5: Running like this van keeps following me around my neighborhood.

494
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 5: I guess I'm just gonna go back to my house

495
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 5: and leave my doors unlocked, lead them.

496
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Back to my house.

497
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: But there is another story, folks.

498
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 5: I caught my fiance cheating on me jail directly to jail.

499
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 4: I'm embarrassed.

500
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 5: In my line of work, weakness is not tolerable and

501
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 5: I would be a laughing stock.

502
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's really intense.

503
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: Weakness is not tolerated.

504
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 5: He works at a used car dealership. I'm thirty two

505
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 5: years old. I met my girlfriend, Joanne twenty nine years old,

506
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 5: on the thirty first of December two thousand and four

507
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 5: at a New Year's Eve party. For me, it was

508
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 5: almost love at first sight. Almost We only talked for

509
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 5: an hour, but I couldn't get her out of my

510
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 5: head for weeks. By the way, this comes from user,

511
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 5: why would she and If you want to submit your

512
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 5: own stories, go to the horse slash Okay storytime subreddit.

513
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 5: So I was dating someone else at the time, and

514
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 5: the second week in January, I was still thinking about

515
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 5: this relatively trivial conversation I'd had with Joanne. I told

516
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 5: my current girlfriend at the time that things couldn't work out.

517
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 5: I didn't know if I would see Joanne ever again,

518
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 5: but I'd felt something in that one conversation i'd never

519
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 5: felt before. It was an amicable split. I was honest

520
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 5: and told her I liked her, but didn't love her.

521
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 5: I tried to track Joanne down through friends in the like,

522
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 5: and these were the days before Facebook and I never

523
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 5: used MySpace. I finally got a hold of her number,

524
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 5: and when I rang, she said she remembered me too.

525
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: Oooooooooooo, she's got a crush on you.

526
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 5: I asked her out on a date and we spent

527
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 5: a lot of time together. Another guy in our social

528
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 5: group fancied Joanne, so we took it slowly. We were

529
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 5: very cryptic about how we felt and didn't even kiss

530
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 5: until about a month of seeing each other.

531
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: Hey man, it's.

532
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 5: Not been all sunshine and lollipops, though, and I'll be

533
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 5: the first to admit We've had our problems like any

534
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 5: other couple. We broke up once about three years ago,

535
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 5: but weren't apart for more than three months. We've lived

536
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 5: both together and apart. Whatever happened, I thought I'd been

537
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 5: the most reasonable, loving and caring boyfriend that I could be.

538
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 4: When she was exiled out of.

539
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 5: The home because her parents moved to Australia, I financially

540
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 5: supported her until she got on her feet.

541
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 4: These were tough times. It was hard for both of us,

542
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: but I felt we grew because of them.

543
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 1: Is that really getting kicked out if your parents are

544
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: moving to Australia, Yeah, they're like you have because we're leaving.

545
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I guess. I guess so technically, but.

546
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: I feel like when you say, like, oh, she was

547
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: kicked you know, she was punted out, the connotation is

548
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: like they stayed there and she left, but everyone left.

549
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 5: She was amicably exiled amicably amicably. I felt that going

550
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 5: through all of this was something special, so I proposed

551
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 5: on New Year's Eve last year, after taking her to

552
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 5: the place we first met, a bar with a rooftop

553
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 5: balcony thing. I got down on one knee and she

554
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 5: cried and said, Yes, the last six months, I've been

555
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 5: working really hard.

556
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 4: I'm in sales. I know weakness, honestly, like I knew it.

557
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: That's so funny. I knew it. That's so funny. You

558
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: can't show weakness and sales alpha alpha mentality. How are

559
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: you going to sell if you can't sell yourself to

560
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: your girlfriend?

561
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 5: So true, I'm in sales and we've had a potentially

562
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 5: life changing deal coming through that would mean the company

563
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 5: i'm with millions in the next five to eight years.

564
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: I haven't stopped working my butt off, and I've told

565
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 5: her it's gonna be tough, but that I'm doing it

566
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 5: for us. If I get it, I told her we

567
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 5: could have an absolute dream wedding. Well, the last couple

568
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 5: of months have been nailbodding, but I finally secured the

569
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 5: deal and netted myself a huge bonus and job security

570
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: for life. I was on cloud nine, so I bought

571
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 5: Joanne and I some tickets to go away and celebrate. Yesterday,

572
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: my boss let me go home early because of my work,

573
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 5: and I thought, I see you Nope, And I thought

574
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 5: it would be the perfect opportunity to surprise her.

575
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the U man.

576
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: Oh, oh, no, dude, enjoy cloud nine?

577
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: He was so happy.

578
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 4: I hope you really enjoy being on Sometimes, dude, when

579
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 4: you get on cloud nine, the fall is pretty rough.

580
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: Times you get on cloud nine and your wife cheats

581
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: on you.

582
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you fall really really for a really

583
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: long time, and then you're on. But you can't show

584
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: weakness because you work in sales.

585
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 4: I nipped, I nipped in the flower shop. I nipped

586
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: into the flower shop. Is that a phrase?

587
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: I nipped into the flower shop and got her a

588
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 5: bunch of white roses before slipping back home for a

589
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 5: shower and to get out of my suit. I was

590
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 5: driving in my white Mercedes to her house on top

591
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 5: of the world. Work was brilliant, the weather was beautiful.

592
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 5: I had the perfect surprise, and I couldn't wait to

593
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: tell her. Bummer man, anyway, we all know where this

594
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 5: is going.

595
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Oh no.

596
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 5: When I arrived, there was a crappy MUV parked outside

597
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 5: that I had seen before but couldn't place.

598
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: Stalker.

599
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 5: The penny didn't even drop when the door was unnaturally locked. Stalker,

600
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 5: automatic stalker, stalking stock Amy where you at?

601
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

602
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 5: I unlocked the door and called her name. There was

603
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 5: some music playing, and I didn't hear her reply. I

604
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: figured she was in the shower and fixed myself a

605
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 5: glass of water and some water for the hours. In

606
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 5: the kitchen there were some cheap wine and two glasses.

607
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 5: Then I heard the bed banging.

608
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: No, he's on cloud nine though.

609
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: The most horrific sound you could.

610
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: Hear, maybe making the bed cloud really aggressively.

611
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 6: He's jumping on the bed with the monkeys.

612
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: There's just monkeys.

613
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: Hi, there's mutt.

614
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 5: My girlfriend secretly has four chimpanzees she hangs out with

615
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 5: every day without my knowledge.

616
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: Dude, all those monkeys were falling off those that beds.

617
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 5: Stop giving the chimps wine. My heart sank and I

618
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 5: put all the pieces together. I walked to the stairs

619
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 5: and at the bottom there was this pair of ruined,

620
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 5: old leather boots covered in dirt. I was red with ray.

621
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: How could he bring in dirty boots?

622
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: You know what it is, dude. She found herself a

623
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 5: blue collar man while.

624
00:29:54,400 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: You're at your white collar jobs. She found how could

625
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: you do this to me?

626
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: Dang?

627
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 5: I was red with rage. I walked up the stairs

628
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 5: and I could hear him calling her a salute. I

629
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 5: swung her bedroom door open, and there she was playing

630
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: around getting f She.

631
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 6: Was monkeying around, monkeying it around on the bed.

632
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: She leaped up with the reflexes of a cat.

633
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: How did she do that? If she was getting left?

634
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 5: It's those cat like reflexes can always land on their feet.

635
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 5: And before I knew it, he had his pants on

636
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 5: so quick. Crazy they've been practicing this power.

637
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: That's insane. How did he even find his pants that quick?

638
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 4: They were just just on. This doesn't make sense.

639
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: I looked at.

640
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 5: Him and I recognized him. It was this guy that

641
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 5: owns a vegan cafe near mind.

642
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: No, he's not even blue collar.

643
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: He's not a blue collar.

644
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: His boots are just dirty for no reason.

645
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: So his boots are dirty from gardening. Oh, yeah, that

646
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: makes sense.

647
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 5: We'd been a few times, and he had a couple

648
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 5: of parties she had been to with friends. He tried

649
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: to explain himself. Wait, wait, I was just making love

650
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 5: for your wife. But I just told him to get

651
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 5: the f out right now. He left so quick he

652
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 5: forgot to take his cheap wine with him.

653
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: Wow. He left his Dirney boots and his cheap wine

654
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: in my house.

655
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 4: He left his two buck chuck on the counter.

656
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: It was a box wine.

657
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe it. She ran over to touch me,

658
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 5: hug me, or something.

659
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: I told her.

660
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: She disgusted me and I left.

661
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: I went straight to my car and she followed me out,

662
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 5: pathetically asking me to hear her story. I told her

663
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Speaker 5: not to effing call me and dropped my personal mobile

664
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 5: out of the window. I own a work one, but

665
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 5: it's blocked from anyone other than colleagues. I went home,

666
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 5: got in the shower and just cried.

667
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: Man went from cloud nine to the seventh circle of hell.

668
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: That's a rough turnaround.

669
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 5: I called and told my boss everything. He's a great

670
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 5: friend and one of three people who know. He's told

671
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 5: me to have a holiday from work and that I've

672
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 5: done more than enough in the last year. He told

673
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: me to take a week and then see how I feel.

674
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 5: She's been knocking on my door and calling my landline,

675
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 5: so I plugged it out. My friends stopped by earlier

676
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: after he heard what happened from my boss. A lot

677
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 5: of my friends are worried they haven't heard from me

678
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 5: and can't get in contact because I dropped my phone. Yeah,

679
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: I would say, this is the last moment that you

680
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 5: want to like isolate yourself from your support system.

681
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you need to check out, like call them up.

682
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: That's the thing. He's like, I can't show weakness.

683
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, get over that, brother, That's what they're there for.

684
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 4: They care about you. If they think that you're being weak,

685
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: then they're gone. We are all weak, we are all strong.

686
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: Agreed, we contain multitudes.

687
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: Anyway, I'm just confused. Why would she do it with

688
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 5: this broke jack butt, this piece of crap that couldn't

689
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 5: support an effing puppy at it. Some of you have

690
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 5: given me advice to take an STD test. I've already

691
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 5: booked one with my private physician for tomorrow. As far

692
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 5: as what other action I've taken, I just bought a

693
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: new mobile online, and I have canceled all debit payments

694
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 5: on my card for her gym membership, business classes and

695
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: everything else. I don't think I'm going to ask her why.

696
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 5: I'm just angry now. You don't really need to know why,

697
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 5: because the why really has nothing to.

698
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Speaker 1: Do with you.

699
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: Doesn't matter. Yeah, it's never to do with you.

700
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: No, if she had problems in your relationships, she should

701
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: have brought them up to you and ad a mature

702
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: adult conversation. Instead, she cheated on you with the guy

703
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: that she met at.

704
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Speaker 5: A vegan No matter what she could describe at the

705
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Speaker 5: end of the day, why she did it was because

706
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: she decided she wanted to do it. Yeah, I think

707
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 5: the answer is obvious. She didn't care enough about me

708
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: to have a bit of restraint. Comments Number one.

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Speaker 1: Well before we get into the comments.

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Speaker 4: Sofia, do you want to you have anything to break down?

718
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: You want to break it down?

719
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: Sofia, man, Well, I think one, as we've said, go

720
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: to your friends, let people support you. It's it's easy

721
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: to want to kind of close yourself off and deal

722
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: with us all by yourself. But that's that's not helpful

723
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: in the.

724
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 5: Law, very dangerous too, because if you guys, dude, like

725
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 5: so many people. It's like immediately, it's like drink or

726
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 5: pit whatever. You know, that's the mechanism, and that's not good. No, no, no,

727
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 5: completely unsustainable.

728
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: The healthiest way to get over something that's happened to

729
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: you is to reach out to people.

730
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you got to keep living life. You got

731
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 5: to keep living your life. Go out there, do something

732
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 5: brand new you've never done before, never even thought about doing.

733
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Go drive your Mercedes around, Go play frisbee golf, Go

734
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: on on a vacation that you wanted to go on

735
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: with your partner. Take away from achee crafts class. Go

736
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: to one of those wreck rooms where you break everything. Yeah,

737
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: learn how to do a handstand. Anything, but you gotta

738
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: do something. You've got to learn how to do a handstand.

739
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 5: Comments Comment one. Let me start with it's her, not you.

740
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 5: This is cliche but true. It's pretty clear she's been

741
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 5: writing your relationship for years, probably out of guilt at first.

742
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 5: She probably loved the attention in the romance. Now seven

743
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: years later, with a proposal on her back, it's terrifying.

744
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 5: She probably loves you as much as one can without

745
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 5: wanting to be your wife. She's either not ready for

746
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 5: marriage or she just doesn't want to be with you

747
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 5: and doesn't know how to end it. I'm sure she

748
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: feels completely awful about what she's done, but don't let

749
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 5: her back in. You're doing the right thing. As for

750
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: why the broke, but Vegan is it's probably has everything

751
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 5: to do with just.

752
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: Not being you.

753
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 5: Is casual and probably treats her like crap, which is

754
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 5: how she wants to feel because she knows what she's

755
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 5: doing is wrong and her full it's very sad cycle damn.

756
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: And that comment was insight very insightful.

757
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

758
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, we are very complicated primates with very complicated primate

759
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 5: brains that sometimes make us do contrary things.

760
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah to how we feel and think.

761
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, she still decided,

762
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 5: despite her primate brain being confusing. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm

763
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: a I'm gonna make it with this vegan guy.

764
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: And like why a vegan guy?

765
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: He was there, He was there.

766
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 5: She said that this feels good, I'm gonna, I'm gonna see,

767
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 5: I'm gonna explore this.

768
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: He was there and available. That was her tw and

769
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: that that was her conscious decision.

770
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Speaker 1: Update.

771
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 5: Let's just jump into it right first, just to clarify,

772
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 5: I know, I came off as a materialistic jack butt

773
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 5: in my original post. I mean not really, but I

774
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 5: don't look down on anyone less well off or anything.

775
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: The comments about the vegans, crappy suv and boots, etcetera.

776
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 5: I set out of anger doy, of course, not because

777
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: I hate poor people. Money does mean a lot to me,

778
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 5: but my ex girlfriend meant a lot more. Family, friends,

779
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 5: loved ones all come above my work. So it's been

780
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 5: about a week now since it happened, and I can

781
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 5: just say this Reddit, I'm heartbroken. I was angry and

782
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: confused last time I posted, but now I'm just lonely

783
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 5: and devastated. You friends, friends, this is the time where

784
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 5: you go out hit the.

785
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 1: Town, party shaw, take a little excursion, doing a hike,

786
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: take a take a stroll through country.

787
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 6: Smite the vegan, just sa barbecue a lovely Strokes Country

788
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 6: if you need to.

789
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 5: The day after I posted on Reddit, I met up

790
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: with her at a Starbucks to find out some answers

791
00:37:59,120 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 5: to my question.

792
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 4: Ah.

793
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: The truth is she didn't have any She said she

794
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 5: didn't no eyes she did it, that she does love

795
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 5: me and that she does want to marry me, but

796
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 5: that sometimes when she was with me lately, she just

797
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 5: didn't feel like she really wanted to be there. Then

798
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: I said, then I feel like that sometimes, but I

799
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 5: don't go out and f waitresses. Then she turned and

800
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 5: went all crazy, saying I'm too possessive and that she

801
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 5: should have some freedom. You want freedom to bang the

802
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 5: vegan business on her.

803
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Speaker 1: Well, now you know, now you know that she sucks

804
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: and she is going to blame it all on you.

805
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: This, you know.

806
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 5: Honestly, I feel like from all the stories you read,

807
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 5: it's just it's like neglect and then like point like

808
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 5: it's like you won't take any of the blame. I'm

809
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: not sure it like the like how they like like

810
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 5: nothing becomes their faults to the scu I just think

811
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 5: it's like a look, they've been together for what seven years,

812
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: eight years, and now she's like, you're being possessive over me.

813
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: It's like she just.

814
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 5: To a point where she's like, I'm not feeling as

815
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 5: strongly about my partner anymore. And instead of being like,

816
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 5: because that's that will freaking happen. You're with someone for

817
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 5: ten years, you're not going to always feel like the

818
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 5: best person ever, top of the world always.

819
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just it's just you go through phases, right,

820
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Speaker 1: and if you're a mature adult, you have conversations about that, right,

821
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: and you figure out ways to I don't know, spice

822
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: up the relationship or like talk to them about what

823
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: you're feeling. Instead, she felt these things, blamed you for them,

824
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: and then hooked out with someone and then was like,

825
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: well it's his.

826
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: It's ope, and is now like it's still your fault.

827
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, she said that cheating happens every day and I

828
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 5: shouldn't take it so personally.

829
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: That's an insane response.

830
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, just you walk up and leave at this point, brother,

831
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: this is why you don't even need this.

832
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: You never need to have this conversation.

833
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: Then you should say, well, breaking up happens every day,

834
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: so you shouldn't take it so personal. There it is.

835
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: I yes, I fully advocate for no one to ever

836
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 5: have this conversation because the answer is always because they

837
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 5: wanted to.

838
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: Because they wanted to. That's also just an insane excuse

839
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: that you could use for literally anything. You could be like, well,

840
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: people die every day, so it's don't take it so personally. Yeah,

841
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: what everything happens every day? Crazy?

842
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 5: Hold on, Well, no, that's not true, Okay, October thirty first,

843
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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen.

844
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 4: Christmas only happens one day, but you know, you know

845
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: what I mean.

846
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Then the tears came,

847
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 5: and then the begging. I asked her what it is

848
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 5: she loved about me, and she couldn't say anything beyond

849
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 5: the standard cliches.

850
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Brother, why are you This is just hurting you. Stop.

851
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 5: I listed off a huge string of things about her

852
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 5: and finally said, those were things I loved about you.

853
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 5: I told her how the trade I felt, and how

854
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 5: I'd never imagined being in another relationship apart from ours

855
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 5: in my whole life.

856
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: Ever again mmm, I.

857
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 5: Told her that this was probably the worst thing that

858
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 5: anyone had done to me personally in my whole life.

859
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 5: Her tears set me off, and before I knew it,

860
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 5: we were too balling idiots sat in Starbucks and everyone

861
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 5: was looking at us. Finally, I told her that despite

862
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 5: how destroyed I was now that there were some signs

863
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 5: that it was coming anyway. I told her that I

864
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 5: don't think she felt the same way about the relationship

865
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 5: as I did, at least not in the last year.

866
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: She was still crying, and I said Joanne, thank you

867
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: for some of the best years of my life, and

868
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 5: you go f yourself for ruining them. Ay, I'll send

869
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 5: your stuff over tomorrow. You can keep everything I have

870
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 5: apart from the ring and my external hard drive. The

871
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 5: next day a mutual friend went over to hers and

872
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 5: dropped her stuff off and picked up my external drive.

873
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 5: I took the ring off her at Starbucks. Since then, well,

874
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 5: it hasn't been pretty.

875
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 4: I can't imagine that it would be.

876
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 5: I've been smoking so much I never usually do. I

877
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 5: must be going through a whole pack a day. I

878
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 5: suppose it's better in the short term than booze. And

879
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Speaker 5: there's a second update.

880
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: Friends, stop go to your friends.

881
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: Please handstand hands.

882
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: Get really into handstands.

883
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: Get three friends, learn how to handstand. Learn how to

884
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 4: make like macha.

885
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 5: Get three friends together and learn how to do that

886
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 5: thing where you all make like a human table.

887
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are each other.

888
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: We should do that. We should I mean, like, get

889
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: really into something that you can. I don't know, like

890
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: every time you have that feeling you just go and

891
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: make a macha.

892
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 5: Just please literally anything in the whole world, but like

893
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 5: isolating yourself and just like drinking for the love of God.

894
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: Anything but that, please, it.

895
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 5: Is never a good Don't nothing addictive?

896
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Please? Yeah? Also, of course smoking is bad.

897
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 6: Just any vice, honestly, Yeah, a healthy advice. Do a

898
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 6: healthy vice.

899
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: Hands running.

900
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: Become addicted to handstand running, just like.

901
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 5: Every time you're sad. I don't know, I hate running,

902
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 5: but I maybe maybe you like running. Hello, Reddit, it's

903
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 5: been almost two months since I updated. Well, I wish

904
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 5: I could give you all a happy ending and tell

905
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 5: you that I got over her and managed to start

906
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: a new energetic life with my focus on friends and work. Yeah,

907
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: it's and I wish no, I wish I could get ready, folks,

908
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 5: he's I bet this is gonna be really, really rough.

909
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: But you know what, just keep it in your head

910
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 5: that this guy can still be on the upswing. Yeah

911
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 5: he's down, get that diamond. Maybe down, but not out.

912
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 5: Unfortunately this is not the case. Two weeks after my update,

913
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 5: I lost my job. I came into work one morning

914
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 5: on the day I was meeting an important client, and

915
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 5: I was loaded on substances and wasted on whiskey from

916
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: the night before. It wasn't the first time it happened

917
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 5: in those few weeks. Why weren't you already back at work.

918
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: I thought your boss that you could take like a

919
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 5: freaking vacation. You should not have gone back while you

920
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 5: were still doing this, dude. Oh man, I bet you

921
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 5: didn't tell your boss you were still going through it though.

922
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: I bet you.

923
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 6: Oh no, the boss could tell. But at the end

924
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: of the day, it's also on op It's true. Came

925
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 6: into work.

926
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, man.

927
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 4: Dearest John.

928
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 3: It's been a fortnight since I felt your warm.

929
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 4: Embrace, Dear Sam.

930
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 2: Such it has since we started the Okay Storyteme podcast.

931
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: Yes, and I have a message for you, a delicious

932
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: story that I think you'll love. Sincerely Sam.

933
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: But before that, thine divine two minute outbreak must happen.

934
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: I bid thee farewell. See you in two minutes.

935
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 5: My boss and friend told me that he couldn't let

936
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 5: me see my client in the state I was in,

937
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 5: that I hadn't shaved in days, and that it was

938
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 5: obvious I was strung out on something. He did everything

939
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 5: he could, but the managing director of my firm called

940
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 5: me and basically said that he wanted to thank me

941
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 5: for everything I did, but that the breakup had hit

942
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 5: me hard and I was becoming a detriment to the

943
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 5: organization I helped build. He offered me a very generous

944
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: redundancy package and explained to me that if I didn't

945
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 5: take it, they would have to issue me with a

946
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 5: substance test, and if I failed that, which I knew

947
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 5: I would, I would be out of the door. This

948
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 5: was all off of the record, of course, and done

949
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: because of the great relationships I built there and the

950
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 5: work I had done to make the company what it was.

951
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 5: I accepted and worked my last week at a company

952
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 5: I loved and helped build. I had made this company

953
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 5: millions in the last six months I was there, and

954
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: was devastated that I was pushed into the corner which

955
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: made me leave. And I have no fun transition for this.

956
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 5: But you can listen to full episodes with stories just

957
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 5: like this on Spotify or iHeartRadio or wherever you listen

958
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 5: to podcasts.

959
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 4: Just search Okay, story time. You know stories coming to

960
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 4: an end here.

961
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 5: At least they gave you like some kind of like

962
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 5: hey man, normally you'd be gone, but we'll give you.

963
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 5: We want to take care of you because we know

964
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 5: you're going through it.

965
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 1: At least exactly I think that like just remember you

966
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: know this is this is temporary, this feeling of you know,

967
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: being so deep in the hole.

968
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you.

969
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: There is a light at the end of the tunnel.

970
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: You have people who clearly care about you, including the

971
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: place that you work out, even though that you no

972
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,959
Speaker 1: longer have this job.

973
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 5: Well, Miss jay Bird has a comment I think really

974
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 5: elevant right now. Miss Jaybird says they could have sent

975
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 5: him to rehab or helped before straight to firing. But

976
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 5: I think this is probably where that at the beginning

977
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: of the story, he's like, you can't show weakness.

978
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

979
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 5: I think maybe because of how much he did, they're

980
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: like willing to give this package to him. But it

981
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 5: sounds like maybe it's an environment where it's like they

982
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: don't maybe believe in mental health, where they don't like

983
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: it essentially.

984
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, if that's I mean, if that's how he approached

985
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: it at the beginning.

986
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 5: Right, So it's like they're not going to be like, oh,

987
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 5: go to therapy, you go to rehab. They're gonna be like,

988
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 5: this is actually a personal character fault and we don't

989
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 5: want someone like you working here.

990
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, is wrong and not fair.

991
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 5: And you think if this guy was such an asset,

992
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 5: they would really have tried to help him a little

993
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 5: bit more.

994
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

995
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: Ess sales culture, that's that's common.

996
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: Red Bull ranesays, I'd say that if he got himself clean,

997
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: straightened back up, talk to the employers, he'd probably get

998
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: his job back. Yeah. I think potentially, Yeah, if he

999
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: like came back around and truly got you know, just

1000
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: really improved himself after this rock bottom moment, I think

1001
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: potentially they would take him back because of how much

1002
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: he's done for the company, or they might give him

1003
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: like a very favorable recommendation for somewhere else.

1004
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: You know, my redundancy package was six figures, and with

1005
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 5: my savings, it basically means I can live comfortably with

1006
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 5: no job for like two years. I didn't go to Vegas,

1007
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 5: and I have lost some friends being a jack butt

1008
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 5: to them over the last few months. A couple that

1009
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 5: I can rely on have stuck with me, and I

1010
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 5: love them like brothers for that and we'll never forget it.

1011
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 5: As for everyone else, I have developed a strong hatred

1012
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 5: for them, which is like drinking poison and thinking it's

1013
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 5: going to hurt your enemy, even when I know it's

1014
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 5: not their fault.

1015
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 4: I think really counseling would super help you do.

1016
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: Please please, I really worry that appease, like in that

1017
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: mindset of like I can't go to therapy.

1018
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not it's it's not man, man, please, it's weird.

1019
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 5: I'll get paranoid and think they're not on my side

1020
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 5: and that they think I deserve it. Such a ridiculous notion.

1021
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: But it feels true.

1022
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 5: And that is the end and that story that makes sense, brother,

1023
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: because you were betrayed davery deeply. So of course you're

1024
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 5: now your brain's probably in a state where it's going

1025
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 5: to assume everyone.

1026
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: A lot of people.

1027
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 4: Wow.

1028
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: I really hope that you find and get the help

1029
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: that you need and that you're able to, you know,

1030
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: get out of this this bad place.

1031
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, but therapy it also it also sucks because you're

1032
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 6: showing your ex you know that she's really got to you.

1033
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: Like it's hard, but.

1034
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 5: It's honestly like I don't even I don't like that dude,

1035
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 5: Like the whole like where it's like the optics needs

1036
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 5: to be like, oh we broke up.

1037
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: Like I'm posting on my Instagram story that I'm.

1038
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 5: It's like stop it, yeah, stop making it a person now,

1039
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 5: just make it about your the next day.

1040
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: Stop making a breakup. I mean, there is this feeling

1041
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: of like I need to win. I need to be

1042
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: in a better place than especially if you have a

1043
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: thing where they've betrayed you, Like I need to be

1044
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: in a better place than they are. But I think

1045
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: when you are truly effectively dealing with the breakup.

1046
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 4: You aren't even thinking about them. You're just living your

1047
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: life for yourself, right.

1048
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 5: You know there is no hatred, There is no there's nothing.

1049
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 5: It's different. Yeah, yeah, it just sucks his hope.

1050
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 6: He was taking all that anger out on you know,

1051
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 6: his support system, which is, yeah, you take your anger

1052
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 6: out somewhere.

1053
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, but.

1054
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 4: At least he's got the You know, there's people who

1055
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: stuck with him. But we have another story.

1056
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: My girlfriend cheated on me, but she won't let me go.

1057
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 4: That isn't how that works.

1058
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: I've been with ex girlfriend Vanessa for the past five years.

1059
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: We met at a convention for one of our hobbies

1060
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: and started just talking about the hobby itself, with no

1061
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: other goal in mind. We started dating when she confessed

1062
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: that she liked me is more than a friend and

1063
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: it was mutual. I just kept quiet because I didn't

1064
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: really want to ruin the friendship, and I wasn't really

1065
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: expecting her to be interested in me. By the way,

1066
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: this comes from Throwaway, want it Over, and if you

1067
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: want to submit your own stories, go to the r

1068
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: slash okay storytime severed it. So we dated for about

1069
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: two years steadily before we moved in together. Our families

1070
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: meshed well together, our friends mingled, and we all became

1071
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 1: one big mixed social circle. That was a surprise because

1072
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: we both come from very different financial backgrounds, me being

1073
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: raised in poor slash middle class kind of finances, Vanessa

1074
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: and her.

1075
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: Friends and family being really really rich.

1076
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: WHOA, you're mickling with the classes, crazy scandal. Everything was

1077
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 1: great for the past three years except when she cheated.

1078
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 5: Oh that's a that's a big asterix to put on that.

1079
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: Vanessa cheated on me with some random guy. I don't

1080
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: even honestly know why, or do I really care to find.

1081
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 4: Out, and that's the way to do it.

1082
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: YEP. I found out a month ago because I took

1083
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: her phone to call up a friend since mine was

1084
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: inoperable at the time. The first thing I saw when

1085
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: I unlocked her phone was a message popping up about

1086
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: how some guy loved that butt bncit on him the

1087
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: day before.

1088
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 4: Ew, that's kind of gross, kind of achy, yuck.

1089
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: I'll spare you the emotional turmoil I briefly went through,

1090
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 1: and I'll admit I just put the phone down, told

1091
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: her I was leaving without telling her why, and I

1092
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: could see she was confused about me just going out

1093
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: like that. I just didn't want to do something i'd

1094
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: regret because I did have anger issues in the past,

1095
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: but I've mostly worked past those. She probably found out

1096
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: I saw that message, but since my phone was still

1097
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: in the apartment, there was no way to get in

1098
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: touch with me. I literally just walked around the city

1099
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: for hours until I was so tired that I felt

1100
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: like falling asleep on my feet. We read another story

1101
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: where a guy was just walking around for he said

1102
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: fifty miles.

1103
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 5: I don't buy it a fifty mile, and that guy

1104
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 5: was walking so fast he was walking away.

1105
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 4: He's walking like those Olympic speed walkers.

1106
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: Went over to a friend's place, stayed with them over

1107
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: the night, and the day after I got over to

1108
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: our apartment and talked it out with Vanessa. I told

1109
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: her I wasn't gonna be in a relationship with a cheater,

1110
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: and that was that. I didn't ask for details how

1111
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: it happened, who exactly the other guy was. I just

1112
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: wanted to go away from it all. See that's how

1113
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: you do it. Yeah, I'm breaking up with you. Yeah,

1114
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: see ya, I'm breaking up because you decided to cheat.

1115
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: I don't care what you think about me or what

1116
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: you think about this guy.

1117
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 4: I don't really care about any of that.

1118
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: You cheated on me. She wasn't looking to oblige me, crying,

1119
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: hysterically blaming herself, hitting herself in the ad because she

1120
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: was I quote, a stupid cheating cu and t begging

1121
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: me to not go that she would do anything to

1122
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: try and fix this. The whole thing.

1123
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: She made even more uncomfortable.

1124
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: To be around her, and there was a scene in

1125
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: front of our apartment when our neighbors came out to

1126
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: see what the noise was about. Yikes.

1127
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you should just tell her. The thing you could

1128
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 5: have done to prevent this was just not cheat. Now

1129
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 5: you can't do anything about it.

1130
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: Too late. I did manage to get away, but it

1131
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: was unnecessarily complicated with drama. She made her choice to

1132
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: f someone else. I made mine to break up because

1133
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a cheater. I managed to

1134
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: take away most of my things from the apartment when

1135
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: she wasn't there, and hope that would be that. But

1136
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: if it was, I wouldn't be here now. I mentioned

1137
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: before that Vanessa and her family are rich. She's now

1138
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: using her and I presume her family's money in not

1139
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: giving me a single day of some kind of reminder

1140
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: of her. Either I'm getting gifts sent my way at

1141
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: my workplace, or I'm getting letters in the mail and packages,

1142
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: or she just hangs out with one of her friends

1143
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: somewhere where she knows I am. I have no idea

1144
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: how she knows. And this is making me feel paranoid

1145
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: because I keep thinking she might have someone following me. Well,

1146
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: now she's stalking trying to get me to talk with her.

1147
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: I have tried talking with the local police on the matter,

1148
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: but I've been told, in not so many words, that

1149
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: her family would make sure nothing would be done about it.

1150
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 4: All right, here's what you do.

1151
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: No, not the rich family.

1152
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: Here's what you do.

1153
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: You get aggressively weird, all right.

1154
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 5: We don't get aggressively angry when we see her following

1155
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 5: us around inconspicuously, or she just so happens to be.

1156
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: You run up to her table like a goblin like,

1157
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: and then you go.

1158
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: Until she just leaves.

1159
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then maybe she'll be like, I don't think

1160
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 5: I like my ex boyfriend anymore.

1161
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: I don't actually think I want to be with them.

1162
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: That would be.

1163
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 5: Concerning yet out weird, out weird, the weird behavior.

1164
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: Props to the cop for being honest about it, But

1165
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: they could do their job instead.

1166
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 4: We'll see what they're getting freaking bribed.

1167
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: When it comes to stalking.

1168
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 5: A CoP's job is just to wait until you're in

1169
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 5: a ditch and then they'll do something.

1170
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: I wish we could have prevented this, If only there

1171
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: was something we could have done. Blast.

1172
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 4: I want to heal.

1173
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: I want to move on, but she's not letting me,

1174
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: and I don't have enough money to just move away

1175
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: somewhere else. She's already blocked or ignored on every possible

1176
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: media I have, but strangely enough, she's not trying to

1177
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: get to me through them anyway. On the other hand,

1178
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: friends are every friend she's got, and she has plenty.

1179
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: Has asked me to just meet up with her hear

1180
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: out or something else like that, you should do this

1181
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: is she paying them all? Do this though?

1182
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 5: But do it like how Robert Pattinson did it. Robert

1183
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 5: Pattinson had a stalker. He went to dinner with his stalker.

1184
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 5: His stalker then stopped caring about him because he went

1185
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 5: to dinner, and the stalker's like asking him question.

1186
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: He's just like, yeah, I don't know. I don't like

1187
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: leaving my house.

1188
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 5: Like yeah, I'm like, I like kind of hate most

1189
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 5: of the things I do and think, and I don't

1190
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 5: I don't really have any interests.

1191
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 4: And she was like, oh, you're awful.

1192
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: How you do it? I guess?

1193
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: And he was the thing is in his interviews would

1194
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 5: be like, yeah, I was just like genuinely just a conversation.

1195
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 5: I just decided. I was like, you know what, I

1196
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 5: will entertain this person. I'm kind of bored, I guess.

1197
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 5: And then she was like, actually, I don't think I want.

1198
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: To see you again. Oh man, but I'm so tired

1199
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: of that. I'm tired of this kind of crap. I

1200
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: just wanted over with. I don't want to hear her speak,

1201
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to see her. I won't do me

1202
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: any good. So please can anyone help me here? How

1203
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: do I move on from someone who won't let me

1204
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: and who has absolutely both the time and money to

1205
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: keep doing it indefinitely. And there is an update. I'm

1206
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I feel like you're right.

1207
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 4: You have to shatter the illusion. I feel like you're right.

1208
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 5: You go to her and you say, all right, we

1209
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 5: can make this work. But I have a confession. This

1210
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 5: entire time, I've been afurrey. I've been a fraud. I've

1211
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 5: been afraid to tell you. Oh I said a hurrey,

1212
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 5: a furry Oh I thought you said afraid. I was

1213
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 5: thinking that, but I was actually going a step further,

1214
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 5: and I'm going I'm a diaper boy. I need to

1215
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 5: be in a diaper at all times. Yeah, there's a

1216
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 5: community that exists there.

1217
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: I know.

1218
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 5: Okay, it's horrific. Yeah, but yeah, hit her with that.

1219
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 5: Hit her with that the most earnest way that you

1220
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 5: possibly can. I need to be in a diaper at

1221
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 5: all times, and I cannot change myself because and.

1222
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 4: If you're ready for that, we can get back to time.

1223
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 4: Have you ever met a baby that can change its

1224
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: own diaper?

1225
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: Hello?

1226
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 4: Nope? So yeah, my cards are now on the table, baby, because.

1227
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: Like, genuinely, you don't have enough money to move. You've

1228
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: tried the police, they aren't working. You've tried to block everyone.

1229
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: They keep finding ways to access to you. She has

1230
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: a lot of money and time. Shame she can try

1231
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: like get ready with me, where you just shame you

1232
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: do the anything.

1233
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 5: Because they're like rich and like probably like well known

1234
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 5: in the community. So it's like, if you start shaming her,

1235
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 5: maybe she'll just leave you alone because she doesn't want

1236
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 5: the bad press.

1237
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: That's another good one. Updates In the end, I set

1238
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: up a meeting with my ex's mother, whom I mentioned

1239
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: in one of my posts when I was replying to

1240
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: people about this whole thing.

1241
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 4: It was roughly a week after I made my previous post.

1242
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: She knew why we were broken up and completely backed

1243
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: up my decision to break up with her daughter, seeing

1244
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: how much it had hurt me. It meant a lot

1245
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: to me, and I guess I never really appreciated her

1246
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: mom being so friendly with me while we were together.

1247
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: I explained to her what had been going on since

1248
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: the breakup. She only knew that the ex was trying

1249
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: to get back together with me, but she didn't know

1250
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: about her showing up at any place I went out.

1251
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: Her friend's badgering me, or the letters and gifts being

1252
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: sent my way constantly. I came close to tearing up

1253
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: because of how much support she showed me at the time.

1254
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: At one point she even hugged me and kissed the

1255
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,959
Speaker 1: top of my head like I was a little kid again.

1256
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: I felt both embarrassed and grateful. I just wanted space

1257
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: and time to heal from this crap, and I think

1258
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: she understood as much. All in all. After we got

1259
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: that out in the open, she promised me she would

1260
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: get her daughter back in line to leave me alone

1261
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: and stop pestering me. We talked a bit more after that,

1262
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: but went our own ways soon after. The ex's pestermen

1263
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: continued for a day or two, and then it completely stopped.

1264
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: No messages, no calls, no sudden appearances where I was

1265
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: hanging out or anything. Three weeks and nothing from her

1266
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: so far. Okay, it's been bliss wonderful. It's like this

1267
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: huge weight just rolled straight off of me. It's easier

1268
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: to breathe, and I'm not even looking at the door

1269
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: of some place I'm hanging out to see if it's

1270
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: the X or one of her friends. But I didn't

1271
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: even notice that myself. My friends were the ones who

1272
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: brought it up to me. So yeah, this is a

1273
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: thousand times better than what it was like before. And

1274
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: you know what's a thousand times better every time you

1275
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: watch it? Full episodes stories just like this, just go

1276
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or iHeart Radio and search up Okay, storytime.

1277
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: There is a little bit left to the story. Do

1278
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 1: you have any final thoughts or advice for OP?

1279
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 4: It turns out it was just tell mommy all the time.

1280
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: Turned out just tell her mommy.

1281
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 5: I still being maybe like aggressively weird and off putting

1282
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 5: could have been the most fun way to go about

1283
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 5: it for me personally. Maybe OP is not about that.

1284
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 5: I'm about that light you are. We know that Pea

1285
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 5: is Maybe maybe.

1286
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: But Peace got his own life.

1287
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 4: For the general population, I think maybe yeah.

1288
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 5: Going to the mom or anyone, just anyone who has

1289
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 5: some level of authority over her and being like, dude, like,

1290
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 5: what is going didn't you know your daughter, the girl

1291
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 5: you raised, is doing this to me?

1292
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: We are cool, right, We're cool.

1293
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: You can fix this, right?

1294
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 4: Do you have something to say to her?

1295
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: Maybe?

1296
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, But if that doesn't work, bark like a chihuahua.

1297
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: Exactly. That's the alternative.

1298
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1299
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 4: You have to wear tell you you have to wear

1300
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: an adult, you have to wear a diaper, and you

1301
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 4: would prefer it.

1302
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: To be loaded.

1303
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: Diary of a wimp?

1304
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: Kid?

1305
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: What loaded diaper? There's who's have you never seen diary

1306
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: of a whim? That was after my time? No, it wasn't.

1307
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 5: N uh it was no, huh it was no, that

1308
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 5: was after my time? Wrong, right, it was our time,

1309
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 5: thank you. No, the books were not the movies.

1310
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: Yes, it was our time.

1311
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 4: There's a little bit left to this story.

1312
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 1: I've talked with my exes mom one more time over

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Speaker 1: the phone, and I thanked her for whatever she did

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Speaker 1: with her daughter, and she was saying it was the

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Speaker 1: least she could do. Near the end of the conversation,

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Speaker 1: she said it would probably be for the best if

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Speaker 1: we didn't speak anymore. It would let me fully move

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Speaker 1: on from this, but that she was sorry it had

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Speaker 1: to come to this, and that they her and her

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Speaker 1: husband wouldn't see me coming over for Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Not The chat starting to be like decodad is your time,

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Speaker 4: it's your time.

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Speaker 1: It's your time.

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Speaker 4: Just not up on it.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm ex I was expoused.

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Speaker 1: Sex to sex. I hope that didn't echo. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: We said our goodbyes and that was that.

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Speaker 1: So that's it. The pestment stopped. I'm feeling great and

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Speaker 1: life's really looking better nowadays. One more time, thank you all,

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Speaker 1: guys and gals for trying to help me out from

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Speaker 1: the crap pile I found myself in. And folks, that's

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Speaker 1: the end of that story, and I believe the end

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Speaker 1: of this episode it is. If you love us, make

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