WEBVTT - Blockade, Oil and Outrage 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.600 Right news round up in Information Overload Hour. Here's are 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:04.800 toll free telephone Nuber. It's eight hundred and nine four 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:06.640 one Shawn if you want to join us. Back to 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.559 our top story of the day, and that is the 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:15.400 Iranian talks fell flat. The Iranians are absolutely mind numb 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.479 and they're just the dumbest people on the face of 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:19.520 the earth. At least those people that are in charge. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.239 Got to feel bad for the Iranian people because they 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.400 just suffer as a result of, you know, this radical 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.080 regime that has been in power for forty seven years, 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.080 and even going into a President Trump said regardless of 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.520 how the talks go with Iran, we're going to win. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:34.919 And he's right about that. 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:39.559 Let me play the President announcing the blockade against Iran. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.680 After these these marathon talks. I have a hard time 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.519 understanding why this thing even took twenty one hours. The 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:52.239 President had six very specific demands of the Iranians and 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.720 they come in with four ridiculous demands. And it should 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.560 have been the answers, no, either you accept these, you 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.480 have howard him say yes, and then either they take 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:07.600 it or they and accept it, or they get what's coming, 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.560 and what's coming is coming period. Anyway, here's the President 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.840 announcing the blockade against the rent. 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.000 Well, we're going to be blockading. It'll take a little while, 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:21.160 but it'll be effective pretty soon. We didn't get there 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.479 on the important issue. They want to have nuclear weapons. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.560 They're not going to have nuclear weapons. I've been saying 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.920 that for thirty years. I would never allow that to 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.880 happen before I was in politics. And that country will 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.720 not have nuclear weapons. Most countries shouldn't be allowed to have, 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:34.959 but that country. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.520 Will not have nuclear weapons. 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.000 But we had a. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:42.920 Very intensive negotiation, and toward the end it got very friendly, 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:47.600 and we got just about every point we needed except 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.800 for the fact that they refused to give up their 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.920 nuclear ambition. And that's the only point, frankly to me, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:54.760 that was the most important point by far. 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.040 Now the President expanded on that, not just not just 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.920 the blockade that you know in these said this before. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:05.120 They don't have any cards, and the idea that they 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.400 think they're going to get away with extorting the entire 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.360 world is just not going to work. By by them 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.680 thinking that they're going to mind the straight of horror moves, 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.560 they're not going to mind the straight of horror moves. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:21.520 We've already created two passage lanes. As we speak, the 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.840 President is, you know, saying here, they don't have cards, 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.280 and it's not going to work because we're going to 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.680 open the straight of Horror moves to some traffic and 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.720 if the Iranians dare try to interrupt that, they're just 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.680 going to be obliterated. Further, here's what the president said. 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:40.920 Well, they reacted. You know, it was very interesting. It 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.359 started off week. They were they came in like they 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:46.239 had the cards, but they don't have the cards. Their 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.520 army is, their whole military is obliterated. The whole place 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.639 is obliterated. And you know, as you know, levels of 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.800 leaders are gone, they're literally gone. Comatie's gone, the whole 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.440 thing is gone, The whole place is gone. They have 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.919 one thing that they can do. They can say, well, gee, 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.320 we're going to put a mine someplace in the just 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.080 the mind. We'll drop one mind, two. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:08.600 Minds, ten minds, and. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.799 That will If you have a ship that costs a 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.960 billion dollars, you say, well, you know, I prefer not 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.280 getting whacked by a mind losing my ship. Were damaging 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.760 it badly at least, and so that's a little bit 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.919 of a thing that they can do that it's a 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.000 military might, and military power don't do it. But you 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.880 know it's extortion and they're extorting the world. 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:28.320 Now. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.079 The President added one point, and that is the price 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.200 of oil and gas could be a little bit higher, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.520 meaning from where it was before, not after. But anyway, 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.400 here do we and all of this, we have Tim 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.040 Stewarts with us. He is the president of US Oil 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:47.280 and Gas UH and Daniel Turner, founder executive director of 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:51.760 the Power of the Future and national nonprofit. By the way, Tim, 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.600 I saw your organization took a shot at somebody as 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.480 it relates to gas prices in California, and you said, no, 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.280 the straight ord moves is not the cause of high 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.880 gas prices in California. And I was like, there goes 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.760 your organization again. You just keep telling it straight and 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:08.560 they don't like it. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:09.760 No, they don't. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.760 And I'm glad that we're able to do it because 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.320 that's you know, you got to get the story out. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:18.120 That was a real connor from California. And frankly, it's 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.320 nice to be able to school these members of Congress 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.080 from time to time because they have the advantage of 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.720 being able to say something then move on and know 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:25.279 they ever calls them on their bs. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:26.880 So it was a good weekend, Sean. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:28.560 It's good to be with you, all right. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.520 Let me let me start with the news as it 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:35.080 relates to oil. Oil market researcher Rory Johnston pointed out 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.840 over the weekend, dozens of very empty, large crude carriers 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.960 are moving towards the US Gulf Coast. That means they're 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.280 going to do pickups in other places. If you look 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.599 at for example, correct me if I'm wrong, eighty percent 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:54.400 of the twenty million barrels of oil per day that 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.000 goes through the Strait of Poormuz, the vast majority of 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.520 it has been replaced via the sud pre war surplus, 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.800 the oil that the Iranians who are allowing to go 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:11.880 to China, Indian safe passage and so on and so forth, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.599 and alternative roots and methods of getting oil around the world. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:17.400 Is that accurate? 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.080 It is, you know, and crude will inevitably flow, That's 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.720 just how it is. And events like this have aitendency 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.479 to sort of reorder the distribution supply chain networks that 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.640 choke point for about twenty million barrels a day. Like 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.480 it says twenty percent of the global production. This blockade 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.800 is really interesting because ultimately it's going to hurt the 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.800 Uranians and the Chinese more than anybody. The Ranians are 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:45.160 making four hundred and thirty five million dollars four hundred 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:48.640 and thirty five million dollars a day. That's their economic damage. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.520 That's between lost exports and disrupted imports. It's thirteen billion 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.559 a month. All that's going to China, and so China 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.520 all of a sudden has lost its discounted crude premium 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.080 that they had as an advantage for they have or 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:05.240 the rest of the manufacturing global economy. They were happily 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.560 buying that discounted crude. Now they're still entertain It's kind 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:10.920 of nice to see him suddenly the man unimpeded shipping 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.440 through them through the strait. It was like where you've 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:14.919 been for the last six weeks. 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.280 Yeah, let me let me get your take, Daniel Turner. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.280 I think the President also suggested that, you know, once 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.800 the conflict is over, this will ultimately, in spite of 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:28.839 the Iranians claiming that they would have the right to 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.080 control the straight we're talking about international waterways, that's never 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:32.919 going to be the case. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:36.400 Is it no, And I've seen calls for the President 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.279 to rename it the Straits of America, which I just 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.080 think is hysterical. President Trump has made it very clear 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.599 that he is going to be the world leader. America 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.240 is going to be the world's leader when it comes 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:50.279 to oil and gas policy, not Opeq, not the Middle East, 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.760 not Russia, and hopefully if the American voters don't don't 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.159 fail us. Hopefully not presidents like Joe Biden when he 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.320 went to Saudi Arabia and begged them to produce because 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:05.000 he was shutting down production domestically. President Trump sees that 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.360 the world runs on oil and gas. We can wish 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.760 it where other I don't personally, some people do. We 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:12.520 can wish it where other, but it is not. The 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.120 world runs on oil and gas. Everybody needs it. And 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.000 if America controls the world's oil and gas supply, we 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.600 as the ultimate force for good will set a tone 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.280 for the world, for peace and for prosperity. That's his 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:27.120 very clear vision, and I think we need to give 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.240 him the leeway to enact it so that we have 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:30.960 a better world. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.360 And what do you make of the US Navy that 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.120 began the Straightah horm moves mine hunt and that they've 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:42.040 already been able to kind of create multiple passage passageways 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.480 that they know at this point are safe of any 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.320 uranium minds, and I don't think the Iranians are going 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.520 to be able to put out any new ones. How 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.320 important is that or do you have to worry about 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.000 the Iranians that its narrowest point. My understanding is the 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.720 strata horm moves is about what between twenty and twenty 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:04.280 four miles depending, So that makes it it makes it 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.040 a bit of a target for any tanker going through 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.360 that area. I don't know how easy that would be 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:09.960 to protect. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.160 Yeah, it's this is kind of what's been missing over 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.600 the last couple of weeks. Sean has actually happened, Yes, 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.840 maybe presence there. And I think last time you and 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.640 I talked, I said, it's one thing to have your 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.200 tanker insured by Lloyd's of another Lloyd's of Lunch, and 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.400 it's another thing to have your tanker insured by Lloyd's 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.440 of London escorted by the United States Navy. It's a 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.400 much greater security level. So I think it's gonna this 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:36.320 is what's been missing. And again it's been fascinating to 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.440 watch this play at hand. At the president, you break 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.720 the enemy's blockade by blockading their blockade, which is what 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.600 he's done here, and then open up these open up 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.720 these routes, and when you have Navy mind sweepers and 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:51.160 Navy destroyers and Navy air cover, it has certainly changes 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.760 the dynamic and adds that additional level of security that 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.719 the transporters have needed. So I think you're going to 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.880 see things really start to move here this next week 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.960 ten days. And as the impact of global oil prices 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:03.640 as well. 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.199 Yeah, I agree with that. 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:09.400 Now the Iranians can't make their own castline, can they, Daniel? 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.520 And in other words, the US naval blockade is going 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.920 to exploit that For the Iranians, they just need to 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.559 get their oil out of there. And the blockade more 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.600 than anything else, isn't it going to be designed to 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.000 prevent Iranian oil from leaving the area. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.320 Yes, And this is what we did in the first 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:29.240 administration with the enormous sanctions that they had on Iranian oil, 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:33.400 not just on the country itself, but targeting those countries 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.800 who buy Iranian oil. And so this is a more 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.679 forceful way of doing that. Remember We've allowed the world 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.400 to make this country rich and powerful. We've allowed other 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.800 countries to buy their oil. And what do they do 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.920 with their money is they froment terrorism? And then when 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.960 they froment terrorism, the world then points its finger at 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.720 America and says, hey, America, fix this problem. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:56.240 Right. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.920 So this is preemption on a different level. And by 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:03.600 preventing Iran from becoming rich and powerful, we are preventing 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.360 future blood. Remember the people used to scream no blood 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.040 for oil. This is the ultimate no blood for oil, 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:13.440 because we will not have one country, one insane country, 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.600 with their religious caliphate, to bring jihad around the world. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.920 We will not have them have the resources to do that. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:24.680 So this is the ultimate peace strategy. It's aggressive, it's bold, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.199 It scares the crap out of Europe, who has given 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:30.920 up their domestic oil and gas supply for climate insanity. 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.800 But it is setting the world on footing for peace 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.200 and prosperity. It's the first president who has ever done 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:42.040 this with a real strategy in mind to end this 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.200 threat once and for all. 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.640 All Right, So here's the next most important question, Tim Stewart. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:53.000 Can we have this blockade and still keep our ships 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.360 at a distance in other words that we're not going 0:10:55.440 --> 0:11:00.959 to have American warships escorting tankers through the straight of 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.760 horror moves which I think would put a very big 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.600 target on them at a very short range for the Iranians. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.840 Is this something the Americans can accomplish from a distance 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.440 a safe distance for our navy? 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.400 I think they can. Again, and there's a lot It's 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.880 not just having a destroyer escort. It's being able to 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:22.160 have an underwater drone. It's being able to have air cover, 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.240 it's being able to have the intelligence that is needed. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.000 And so again the one thing, Sean Sean, we never 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.480 bet against the United States military. We never bet against 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.840 the United States island gas industry. It's a fool's bet 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:33.720 on both of those things. 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:35.640 Well, I guess what I'm saying here is if they 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.360 hit an American Navy ship, for them, that's going to 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.360 be a symbolic victory in their minds. And I don't 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:42.600 want to give them any victory. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.400 Yeah, and it's a symbolic victory, but it'll be followed 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.720 up by some pretty strong retaliation. And I think the 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.319 presence made that very clear. There's much of this is 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.640 just the optics more than anything. And to your earlier point. 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.400 Being able to have that fleet free flow of traffic 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.720 from everybody but Iran. It's going to be really really important. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.880 All right, quick break, we'll have more talking about the 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.400 price of oil now a little below one hundred bucks 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:13.280 a barrel. It went down from earlier today where it launched. Anyway, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.600 Tim Stewart and Daniel Turner on the other side, and 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.440 then we'll get to your calls eight hundred and nine 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:22.840 foot one Shawn this Monday as we continue. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:25.120 All right, we. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.960 Continue, Tim Stewart, President US Oil and Gas, Daniel Turner, 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:33.480 founder executive director at Power the Future, as we discuss 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:38.880 oil prices on the world market and what this what 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.840 the president is now doing with this blockade in the 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.880 straight of horror moves. By the way, I saw what 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.960 you had put out there, because you fired back at Rocanna, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.480 the California Democrat who said, and you what you said 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.640 was pretty funny. You said, high gas prices in your district, 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:00.920 Darren Trump's war their Sacramento's doing in this account that 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.960 you run in direct response to Rocana, I mean, what 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.040 are they paying eight dollars a gallon out there now? 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.080 Yeah, it's between six and eight and it's one hundred percent. 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.280 California is owndoing. And this is again to our earlier point. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:16.520 The politicians have a tendency to try and deflect as 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.000 much as they possibly can, but California's mess is California's mess. 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.120 The problems is spilling over to becoming a US national 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.400 security issue because frankly, the West Coast refinery industry is 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.720 what's supplying the US military in the US Navy, and 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.560 you can't have California policy shutting down refineries and not 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.920 allowing the Navy to have access to fuel, jet fuel 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:36.640 and diesel fuel. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:41.120 How much does it cost, Daniel, I'll ask this as 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.079 a last question, at one hundred dollars a barrel? How 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.319 much does it cost to produce a gallon of gasoline? 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:52.480 At one hundred dollars a barrel to produce? You know, 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:57.080 our American industry is profitable around sixty five dollars or 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.640 seventy dollars, right, So when gas gets too low, the 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.640 industry is pumping, but they're not actually making money. Contrast 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.280 that with countries like Saudi Arabia, where they're profitable at 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.560 nine to ten dollars a barrel, mostly because they use 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.480 to labor. They have no OSHA, they have no regulatory infrastructure. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.360 But a lot of the reason why our profit margins 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.600 are higher also is just a lot of government bureaucracy. 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.240 It's a lot of government nonsense. It's a lot of taxes. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.760 When you go to the Exxon station and fill up 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.680 your car, the one making the most money on that 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.760 gallon of gas is government. It is not the producer. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.720 It is not the gas station clerk himself, or the 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.320 owner of that gas station. It is government. Government is 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.880 the biggest driver of oil prices. Now they claim that 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.520 they're going to use these tax dollars for roads and bridges, 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.240 but yet every time it's election season, we all say 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.440 we don't have enough money for roads and bridges. So 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.240 where the hell does the money go. Well, I guess 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.640 that's a question for Nick Shirley to figure out next. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.920 But we could. We could have much cheaper oil and gas. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.480 We could have much cheaper utilities nationwide if government would 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.840 get out of the way. California being the worst example, 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.600 but even the best states are not great when it 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:06.920 comes to punishing this industry. Which is our lifebook. 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.120 All right, Daniel Turner and Tim Stewart, thank you. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:34.760 Both Mold inspired solutions for America. This is the Sean 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:36.160 Hannity Show. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.440 Right this Monday. Let's get to our busy phones. Let's 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.880 say hi to Steve and Colorado. Steve, Hi, how are 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:43.800 you glad you called? 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:44.000 Sir? 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.280 Thank you for having me on Sean. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.120 Well, thank you for joining us. What's on your mind today? 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.840 Well, you've been talking about forgiveness and you're finding that 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.240 you're get tired of it. But you're finding that it's 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.960 a very sensitive subject with a lot of people. And 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.000 I just oh no, Linda Bicker. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:04.320 Okay, I am so over this topic. How many times 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.360 can I repeat the Lord's words? 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.360 Well, I feel when you get the bigger picture, maybe 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:11.200 it'll settle down. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:12.560 Are you a pastor? 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:15.440 I am. I'm a retired pastor, thirty. 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.320 Years a retired pastor. Good thing you're retired, because it's 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.680 very straightforward. The Lord's prayer, you know, lead us not 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.520 into temptation, you know, so on and so forth. These 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.160 words are very very clear. But give us our trespasses, 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.240 as we forgive those that trespass against us. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:35.160 Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.680 Seventy times seven is how many times you're supposed to 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.520 forgive somebody. You're not supposed to have a hate list, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:43.360 and then and think that you're going to go to 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.800 the pearly gates when God calls you home and say, well, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.360 you made me, and ignore the fact that he gave 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.160 you a roadmap on how to become a better person 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:56.400 and embrace your salvation of which you've been given. You 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.080 know through through nothing that you've done yourself. What's so 0:16:59.160 --> 0:16:59.720 hard about that? 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.760 Well, I just think you haven't quite looked at enough passages. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.919 I want to give you one more. John chapter eighteen, 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.920 ver Matthew chapter eighteen, verse fifteen, and following I got 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.280 a couple of questions for you. Does God forgive everybody? 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.480 I think forgiveness has been offered to everybody. If it's 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.480 a matter of whether or not you want to confess 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.480 your sins, admit that you're wrong and have and repent, 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:28.399 which from the Latin means to change one's heart, and 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.000 that you seek forgiveness. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.200 So the prison has to ask that's found. And there's 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.479 a three step process in Matthew chapter eighteen, verse fifteen, 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.760 and following that goes through that good by yourself, take 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.880 one or two more, take the whole church. And if 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.920 they won't ask, say yes, please forgive me I've done wrong, 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.480 then it says treat him like a heathen and a republican. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.520 Here's another question. When Jesus was hanging on the cross, 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.959 did he yell out to the crowd around him, I 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:56.640 forgive you, Oh? 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.119 He said, forgive them. They know not what they do. 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.760 Was he addressing his father in heaven? 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:07.240 Forgiveness is too directional. I can always forgive somebody to God. 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.639 Well, But he also said to Peter, he said, you know, 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.640 blessed art thou Peter, because you know who I am. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.200 When Peter said and declared that you are the Christ, 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.640 you are the son of the Living God. And Jesus 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.520 said that flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.560 but my Father revealed it unto your heart. And it's 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.600 upon this foundation that I will build my church in 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.600 the gates of how won't prevail against it. And what 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.320 you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.520 what you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:34.919 Correct. 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.960 Yes, I'm not sure what that has to do with forgiveness. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:39.159 Well, it has a lot to do. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.480 In other words, what you bind on earth If you 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.440 bind your forgiveness for somebody, whether or not they asked 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:46.960 for it or not, then that is bound in heaven. 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.720 I'm not sure those two do go together, the. 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.480 Forgiveness what you bind on earth should be bound in heaven. Well, 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.199 I mean, what's so hard? Whatever you ask in my 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.560 name shall be given to you. That's not complicated. Asking 0:18:57.600 --> 0:18:58.880 you will receive so that. 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.640 Your joy may be full. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.760 So you had no idea. I studied. I went to 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.280 a seminary and I studied all this. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:08.159 Okay, And I know differ's opinions differ, but this has 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.320 seemed to help a lot of people for me over 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:14.760 the years. I can always forgive to God. I cannot 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.440 forgive to the person until they ask. If they will ask, 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:20.680 then I'm bound to forgive. 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.440 And we that's not that, But that's not what. That's 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:25.880 not the teaching of Jesus. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.200 If Jesus says anything you ask in my Father's name 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.040 shall be given to you, does he not say that? 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:31.840 Yes? 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.080 But who were they asking there? 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.040 So if you are asking God to forgive another person, 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.359 whether they ask or not, they're forgiven, aren't they? 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.600 No? No, No, don't conflate the two passages that way. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.160 I'm not complating the two passages. I mean, it's very 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:49.000 there's no ambiguity here. You know, whatever whatever you ask 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.680 in my name, if from my father, will be given 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.080 to you so that your joy may be full. Does 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.280 it not say that it does. I'm asking for this 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.800 conversation to come to a quick end. There you go, 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:02.200 so my joy can be full. 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:02.879 We can move on. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:05.520 I love this guy. First of all. 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:07.639 It's so nice to here we go. 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:11.000