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Speaker 1: one Shawn if you want to join us. Back to
Speaker 1: our top story of the day, and that is the
Speaker 1: Iranian talks fell flat. The Iranians are absolutely mind numb
Speaker 1: and they're just the dumbest people on the face of
Speaker 1: the earth. At least those people that are in charge.
Speaker 1: Got to feel bad for the Iranian people because they
Speaker 1: just suffer as a result of, you know, this radical
Speaker 1: regime that has been in power for forty seven years,
Speaker 1: and even going into a President Trump said regardless of
Speaker 1: how the talks go with Iran, we're going to win.
Speaker 2: And he's right about that.
Speaker 1: Let me play the President announcing the blockade against Iran.
Speaker 1: After these these marathon talks. I have a hard time
Speaker 1: understanding why this thing even took twenty one hours. The
Speaker 1: President had six very specific demands of the Iranians and
Speaker 1: they come in with four ridiculous demands. And it should
Speaker 1: have been the answers, no, either you accept these, you
Speaker 1: have howard him say yes, and then either they take
Speaker 1: it or they and accept it, or they get what's coming,
Speaker 1: and what's coming is coming period. Anyway, here's the President
Speaker 1: announcing the blockade against the rent.
Speaker 3: Well, we're going to be blockading. It'll take a little while,
Speaker 3: but it'll be effective pretty soon. We didn't get there
Speaker 3: on the important issue. They want to have nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3: They're not going to have nuclear weapons. I've been saying
Speaker 3: that for thirty years. I would never allow that to
Speaker 3: happen before I was in politics. And that country will
Speaker 3: not have nuclear weapons. Most countries shouldn't be allowed to have,
Speaker 3: but that country.
Speaker 4: Will not have nuclear weapons.
Speaker 5: But we had a.
Speaker 3: Very intensive negotiation, and toward the end it got very friendly,
Speaker 3: and we got just about every point we needed except
Speaker 3: for the fact that they refused to give up their
Speaker 3: nuclear ambition. And that's the only point, frankly to me,
Speaker 3: that was the most important point by far.
Speaker 1: Now the President expanded on that, not just not just
Speaker 1: the blockade that you know in these said this before.
Speaker 1: They don't have any cards, and the idea that they
Speaker 1: think they're going to get away with extorting the entire
Speaker 1: world is just not going to work. By by them
Speaker 1: thinking that they're going to mind the straight of horror moves,
Speaker 1: they're not going to mind the straight of horror moves.
Speaker 1: We've already created two passage lanes. As we speak, the
Speaker 1: President is, you know, saying here, they don't have cards,
Speaker 1: and it's not going to work because we're going to
Speaker 1: open the straight of Horror moves to some traffic and
Speaker 1: if the Iranians dare try to interrupt that, they're just
Speaker 1: going to be obliterated. Further, here's what the president said.
Speaker 3: Well, they reacted. You know, it was very interesting. It
Speaker 3: started off week. They were they came in like they
Speaker 3: had the cards, but they don't have the cards. Their
Speaker 3: army is, their whole military is obliterated. The whole place
Speaker 3: is obliterated. And you know, as you know, levels of
Speaker 3: leaders are gone, they're literally gone. Comatie's gone, the whole
Speaker 3: thing is gone, The whole place is gone. They have
Speaker 3: one thing that they can do. They can say, well, gee,
Speaker 3: we're going to put a mine someplace in the just
Speaker 3: the mind. We'll drop one mind, two.
Speaker 6: Minds, ten minds, and.
Speaker 3: That will If you have a ship that costs a
Speaker 3: billion dollars, you say, well, you know, I prefer not
Speaker 3: getting whacked by a mind losing my ship. Were damaging
Speaker 3: it badly at least, and so that's a little bit
Speaker 3: of a thing that they can do that it's a
Speaker 3: military might, and military power don't do it. But you
Speaker 3: know it's extortion and they're extorting the world.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The President added one point, and that is the price
Speaker 1: of oil and gas could be a little bit higher,
Speaker 1: meaning from where it was before, not after. But anyway,
Speaker 1: here do we and all of this, we have Tim
Speaker 1: Stewarts with us. He is the president of US Oil
Speaker 1: and Gas UH and Daniel Turner, founder executive director of
Speaker 1: the Power of the Future and national nonprofit. By the way, Tim,
Speaker 1: I saw your organization took a shot at somebody as
Speaker 1: it relates to gas prices in California, and you said, no,
Speaker 1: the straight ord moves is not the cause of high
Speaker 1: gas prices in California. And I was like, there goes
Speaker 1: your organization again. You just keep telling it straight and
Speaker 1: they don't like it.
Speaker 6: No, they don't.
Speaker 7: And I'm glad that we're able to do it because
Speaker 7: that's you know, you got to get the story out.
Speaker 7: That was a real connor from California. And frankly, it's
Speaker 7: nice to be able to school these members of Congress
Speaker 7: from time to time because they have the advantage of
Speaker 7: being able to say something then move on and know
Speaker 7: they ever calls them on their bs.
Speaker 6: So it was a good weekend, Sean.
Speaker 5: It's good to be with you, all right.
Speaker 1: Let me let me start with the news as it
Speaker 1: relates to oil. Oil market researcher Rory Johnston pointed out
Speaker 1: over the weekend, dozens of very empty, large crude carriers
Speaker 1: are moving towards the US Gulf Coast. That means they're
Speaker 1: going to do pickups in other places. If you look
Speaker 1: at for example, correct me if I'm wrong, eighty percent
Speaker 1: of the twenty million barrels of oil per day that
Speaker 1: goes through the Strait of Poormuz, the vast majority of
Speaker 1: it has been replaced via the sud pre war surplus,
Speaker 1: the oil that the Iranians who are allowing to go
Speaker 1: to China, Indian safe passage and so on and so forth,
Speaker 1: and alternative roots and methods of getting oil around the world.
Speaker 2: Is that accurate?
Speaker 7: It is, you know, and crude will inevitably flow, That's
Speaker 7: just how it is. And events like this have aitendency
Speaker 7: to sort of reorder the distribution supply chain networks that
Speaker 7: choke point for about twenty million barrels a day. Like
Speaker 7: it says twenty percent of the global production. This blockade
Speaker 7: is really interesting because ultimately it's going to hurt the
Speaker 7: Uranians and the Chinese more than anybody. The Ranians are
Speaker 7: making four hundred and thirty five million dollars four hundred
Speaker 7: and thirty five million dollars a day. That's their economic damage.
Speaker 7: That's between lost exports and disrupted imports. It's thirteen billion
Speaker 7: a month. All that's going to China, and so China
Speaker 7: all of a sudden has lost its discounted crude premium
Speaker 7: that they had as an advantage for they have or
Speaker 7: the rest of the manufacturing global economy. They were happily
Speaker 7: buying that discounted crude. Now they're still entertain It's kind
Speaker 7: of nice to see him suddenly the man unimpeded shipping
Speaker 7: through them through the strait. It was like where you've
Speaker 7: been for the last six weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me get your take, Daniel Turner.
Speaker 1: I think the President also suggested that, you know, once
Speaker 1: the conflict is over, this will ultimately, in spite of
Speaker 1: the Iranians claiming that they would have the right to
Speaker 1: control the straight we're talking about international waterways, that's never
Speaker 1: going to be the case.
Speaker 5: Is it no, And I've seen calls for the President
Speaker 5: to rename it the Straits of America, which I just
Speaker 5: think is hysterical. President Trump has made it very clear
Speaker 5: that he is going to be the world leader. America
Speaker 5: is going to be the world's leader when it comes
Speaker 5: to oil and gas policy, not Opeq, not the Middle East,
Speaker 5: not Russia, and hopefully if the American voters don't don't
Speaker 5: fail us. Hopefully not presidents like Joe Biden when he
Speaker 5: went to Saudi Arabia and begged them to produce because
Speaker 5: he was shutting down production domestically. President Trump sees that
Speaker 5: the world runs on oil and gas. We can wish
Speaker 5: it where other I don't personally, some people do. We
Speaker 5: can wish it where other, but it is not. The
Speaker 5: world runs on oil and gas. Everybody needs it. And
Speaker 5: if America controls the world's oil and gas supply, we
Speaker 5: as the ultimate force for good will set a tone
Speaker 5: for the world, for peace and for prosperity. That's his
Speaker 5: very clear vision, and I think we need to give
Speaker 5: him the leeway to enact it so that we have
Speaker 5: a better world.
Speaker 1: And what do you make of the US Navy that
Speaker 1: began the Straightah horm moves mine hunt and that they've
Speaker 1: already been able to kind of create multiple passage passageways
Speaker 1: that they know at this point are safe of any
Speaker 1: uranium minds, and I don't think the Iranians are going
Speaker 1: to be able to put out any new ones. How
Speaker 1: important is that or do you have to worry about
Speaker 1: the Iranians that its narrowest point. My understanding is the
Speaker 1: strata horm moves is about what between twenty and twenty
Speaker 1: four miles depending, So that makes it it makes it
Speaker 1: a bit of a target for any tanker going through
Speaker 1: that area. I don't know how easy that would be
Speaker 1: to protect.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's this is kind of what's been missing over
Speaker 7: the last couple of weeks. Sean has actually happened, Yes,
Speaker 7: maybe presence there. And I think last time you and
Speaker 7: I talked, I said, it's one thing to have your
Speaker 7: tanker insured by Lloyd's of another Lloyd's of Lunch, and
Speaker 7: it's another thing to have your tanker insured by Lloyd's
Speaker 7: of London escorted by the United States Navy. It's a
Speaker 7: much greater security level. So I think it's gonna this
Speaker 7: is what's been missing. And again it's been fascinating to
Speaker 7: watch this play at hand. At the president, you break
Speaker 7: the enemy's blockade by blockading their blockade, which is what
Speaker 7: he's done here, and then open up these open up
Speaker 7: these routes, and when you have Navy mind sweepers and
Speaker 7: Navy destroyers and Navy air cover, it has certainly changes
Speaker 7: the dynamic and adds that additional level of security that
Speaker 7: the transporters have needed. So I think you're going to
Speaker 7: see things really start to move here this next week
Speaker 7: ten days. And as the impact of global oil prices
Speaker 7: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Now the Iranians can't make their own castline, can they, Daniel?
Speaker 1: And in other words, the US naval blockade is going
Speaker 1: to exploit that For the Iranians, they just need to
Speaker 1: get their oil out of there. And the blockade more
Speaker 1: than anything else, isn't it going to be designed to
Speaker 1: prevent Iranian oil from leaving the area.
Speaker 5: Yes, And this is what we did in the first
Speaker 5: administration with the enormous sanctions that they had on Iranian oil,
Speaker 5: not just on the country itself, but targeting those countries
Speaker 5: who buy Iranian oil. And so this is a more
Speaker 5: forceful way of doing that. Remember We've allowed the world
Speaker 5: to make this country rich and powerful. We've allowed other
Speaker 5: countries to buy their oil. And what do they do
Speaker 5: with their money is they froment terrorism? And then when
Speaker 5: they froment terrorism, the world then points its finger at
Speaker 5: America and says, hey, America, fix this problem.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: So this is preemption on a different level. And by
Speaker 5: preventing Iran from becoming rich and powerful, we are preventing
Speaker 5: future blood. Remember the people used to scream no blood
Speaker 5: for oil. This is the ultimate no blood for oil,
Speaker 5: because we will not have one country, one insane country,
Speaker 5: with their religious caliphate, to bring jihad around the world.
Speaker 5: We will not have them have the resources to do that.
Speaker 5: So this is the ultimate peace strategy. It's aggressive, it's bold,
Speaker 5: It scares the crap out of Europe, who has given
Speaker 5: up their domestic oil and gas supply for climate insanity.
Speaker 5: But it is setting the world on footing for peace
Speaker 5: and prosperity. It's the first president who has ever done
Speaker 5: this with a real strategy in mind to end this
Speaker 5: threat once and for all.
Speaker 1: All Right, So here's the next most important question, Tim Stewart.
Speaker 1: Can we have this blockade and still keep our ships
Speaker 1: at a distance in other words that we're not going
Speaker 1: to have American warships escorting tankers through the straight of
Speaker 1: horror moves which I think would put a very big
Speaker 1: target on them at a very short range for the Iranians.
Speaker 1: Is this something the Americans can accomplish from a distance
Speaker 1: a safe distance for our navy?
Speaker 7: I think they can. Again, and there's a lot It's
Speaker 7: not just having a destroyer escort. It's being able to
Speaker 7: have an underwater drone. It's being able to have air cover,
Speaker 7: it's being able to have the intelligence that is needed.
Speaker 7: And so again the one thing, Sean Sean, we never
Speaker 7: bet against the United States military. We never bet against
Speaker 7: the United States island gas industry. It's a fool's bet
Speaker 7: on both of those things.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess what I'm saying here is if they
Speaker 1: hit an American Navy ship, for them, that's going to
Speaker 1: be a symbolic victory in their minds. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to give them any victory.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's a symbolic victory, but it'll be followed
Speaker 7: up by some pretty strong retaliation. And I think the
Speaker 7: presence made that very clear. There's much of this is
Speaker 7: just the optics more than anything. And to your earlier point.
Speaker 7: Being able to have that fleet free flow of traffic
Speaker 7: from everybody but Iran. It's going to be really really important.
Speaker 1: All right, quick break, we'll have more talking about the
Speaker 1: price of oil now a little below one hundred bucks
Speaker 1: a barrel. It went down from earlier today where it launched. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Tim Stewart and Daniel Turner on the other side, and
Speaker 1: then we'll get to your calls eight hundred and nine
Speaker 1: foot one Shawn this Monday as we continue.
Speaker 2: All right, we.
Speaker 1: Continue, Tim Stewart, President US Oil and Gas, Daniel Turner,
Speaker 1: founder executive director at Power the Future, as we discuss
Speaker 1: oil prices on the world market and what this what
Speaker 1: the president is now doing with this blockade in the
Speaker 1: straight of horror moves. By the way, I saw what
Speaker 1: you had put out there, because you fired back at Rocanna,
Speaker 1: the California Democrat who said, and you what you said
Speaker 1: was pretty funny. You said, high gas prices in your district,
Speaker 1: Darren Trump's war their Sacramento's doing in this account that
Speaker 1: you run in direct response to Rocana, I mean, what
Speaker 1: are they paying eight dollars a gallon out there now?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's between six and eight and it's one hundred percent.
Speaker 7: California is owndoing. And this is again to our earlier point.
Speaker 7: The politicians have a tendency to try and deflect as
Speaker 7: much as they possibly can, but California's mess is California's mess.
Speaker 7: The problems is spilling over to becoming a US national
Speaker 7: security issue because frankly, the West Coast refinery industry is
Speaker 7: what's supplying the US military in the US Navy, and
Speaker 7: you can't have California policy shutting down refineries and not
Speaker 7: allowing the Navy to have access to fuel, jet fuel
Speaker 7: and diesel fuel.
Speaker 1: How much does it cost, Daniel, I'll ask this as
Speaker 1: a last question, at one hundred dollars a barrel? How
Speaker 1: much does it cost to produce a gallon of gasoline?
Speaker 5: At one hundred dollars a barrel to produce? You know,
Speaker 5: our American industry is profitable around sixty five dollars or
Speaker 5: seventy dollars, right, So when gas gets too low, the
Speaker 5: industry is pumping, but they're not actually making money. Contrast
Speaker 5: that with countries like Saudi Arabia, where they're profitable at
Speaker 5: nine to ten dollars a barrel, mostly because they use
Speaker 5: to labor. They have no OSHA, they have no regulatory infrastructure.
Speaker 5: But a lot of the reason why our profit margins
Speaker 5: are higher also is just a lot of government bureaucracy.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of government nonsense. It's a lot of taxes.
Speaker 5: When you go to the Exxon station and fill up
Speaker 5: your car, the one making the most money on that
Speaker 5: gallon of gas is government. It is not the producer.
Speaker 5: It is not the gas station clerk himself, or the
Speaker 5: owner of that gas station. It is government. Government is
Speaker 5: the biggest driver of oil prices. Now they claim that
Speaker 5: they're going to use these tax dollars for roads and bridges,
Speaker 5: but yet every time it's election season, we all say
Speaker 5: we don't have enough money for roads and bridges. So
Speaker 5: where the hell does the money go. Well, I guess
Speaker 5: that's a question for Nick Shirley to figure out next.
Speaker 5: But we could. We could have much cheaper oil and gas.
Speaker 5: We could have much cheaper utilities nationwide if government would
Speaker 5: get out of the way. California being the worst example,
Speaker 5: but even the best states are not great when it
Speaker 5: comes to punishing this industry. Which is our lifebook.
Speaker 2: All right, Daniel Turner and Tim Stewart, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Right this Monday. Let's get to our busy phones. Let's
Speaker 1: say hi to Steve and Colorado. Steve, Hi, how are
Speaker 1: you glad you called?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me on Sean.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for joining us. What's on your mind today?
Speaker 6: Well, you've been talking about forgiveness and you're finding that
Speaker 6: you're get tired of it. But you're finding that it's
Speaker 6: a very sensitive subject with a lot of people. And
Speaker 6: I just oh no, Linda Bicker.
Speaker 1: Okay, I am so over this topic. How many times
Speaker 1: can I repeat the Lord's words?
Speaker 6: Well, I feel when you get the bigger picture, maybe
Speaker 6: it'll settle down.
Speaker 2: Are you a pastor?
Speaker 6: I am. I'm a retired pastor, thirty.
Speaker 1: Years a retired pastor. Good thing you're retired, because it's
Speaker 1: very straightforward. The Lord's prayer, you know, lead us not
Speaker 1: into temptation, you know, so on and so forth. These
Speaker 1: words are very very clear. But give us our trespasses,
Speaker 1: as we forgive those that trespass against us.
Speaker 2: Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do.
Speaker 1: Seventy times seven is how many times you're supposed to
Speaker 1: forgive somebody. You're not supposed to have a hate list,
Speaker 1: and then and think that you're going to go to
Speaker 1: the pearly gates when God calls you home and say, well,
Speaker 1: you made me, and ignore the fact that he gave
Speaker 1: you a roadmap on how to become a better person
Speaker 1: and embrace your salvation of which you've been given. You
Speaker 1: know through through nothing that you've done yourself. What's so
Speaker 1: hard about that?
Speaker 6: Well, I just think you haven't quite looked at enough passages.
Speaker 6: I want to give you one more. John chapter eighteen,
Speaker 6: ver Matthew chapter eighteen, verse fifteen, and following I got
Speaker 6: a couple of questions for you. Does God forgive everybody?
Speaker 1: I think forgiveness has been offered to everybody. If it's
Speaker 1: a matter of whether or not you want to confess
Speaker 1: your sins, admit that you're wrong and have and repent,
Speaker 1: which from the Latin means to change one's heart, and
Speaker 1: that you seek forgiveness.
Speaker 6: So the prison has to ask that's found. And there's
Speaker 6: a three step process in Matthew chapter eighteen, verse fifteen,
Speaker 6: and following that goes through that good by yourself, take
Speaker 6: one or two more, take the whole church. And if
Speaker 6: they won't ask, say yes, please forgive me I've done wrong,
Speaker 6: then it says treat him like a heathen and a republican.
Speaker 6: Here's another question. When Jesus was hanging on the cross,
Speaker 6: did he yell out to the crowd around him, I
Speaker 6: forgive you, Oh?
Speaker 1: He said, forgive them. They know not what they do.
Speaker 1: Was he addressing his father in heaven?
Speaker 6: Forgiveness is too directional. I can always forgive somebody to God.
Speaker 1: Well, But he also said to Peter, he said, you know,
Speaker 1: blessed art thou Peter, because you know who I am.
Speaker 1: When Peter said and declared that you are the Christ,
Speaker 1: you are the son of the Living God. And Jesus
Speaker 1: said that flesh and blood did not reveal this to you,
Speaker 1: but my Father revealed it unto your heart. And it's
Speaker 1: upon this foundation that I will build my church in
Speaker 1: the gates of how won't prevail against it. And what
Speaker 1: you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and
Speaker 1: what you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm not sure what that has to do with forgiveness.
Speaker 2: Well, it has a lot to do.
Speaker 1: In other words, what you bind on earth If you
Speaker 1: bind your forgiveness for somebody, whether or not they asked
Speaker 1: for it or not, then that is bound in heaven.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure those two do go together, the.
Speaker 1: Forgiveness what you bind on earth should be bound in heaven. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, what's so hard? Whatever you ask in my
Speaker 1: name shall be given to you. That's not complicated. Asking
Speaker 1: you will receive so that.
Speaker 2: Your joy may be full.
Speaker 1: So you had no idea. I studied. I went to
Speaker 1: a seminary and I studied all this.
Speaker 6: Okay, And I know differ's opinions differ, but this has
Speaker 6: seemed to help a lot of people for me over
Speaker 6: the years. I can always forgive to God. I cannot
Speaker 6: forgive to the person until they ask. If they will ask,
Speaker 6: then I'm bound to forgive.
Speaker 2: And we that's not that, But that's not what. That's
Speaker 2: not the teaching of Jesus.
Speaker 1: If Jesus says anything you ask in my Father's name
Speaker 1: shall be given to you, does he not say that?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: But who were they asking there?
Speaker 1: So if you are asking God to forgive another person,
Speaker 1: whether they ask or not, they're forgiven, aren't they?
Speaker 6: No? No, No, don't conflate the two passages that way.
Speaker 1: I'm not complating the two passages. I mean, it's very
Speaker 1: there's no ambiguity here. You know, whatever whatever you ask
Speaker 1: in my name, if from my father, will be given
Speaker 1: to you so that your joy may be full. Does
Speaker 1: it not say that it does. I'm asking for this
Speaker 1: conversation to come to a quick end. There you go,
Speaker 1: so my joy can be full.
Speaker 2: We can move on.
Speaker 10: I love this guy. First of all.
Speaker 2: It's so nice to here we go.
Speaker 10: What what I'm being nice? I'm saying something nice. It's
Speaker 10: very nice to hear from someone who knows the Bible
Speaker 10: as well as this person does. Because I don't consider
Speaker 10: myself an expert in the Bible. What I do consider
Speaker 10: my expert myself an expert and is a few aspects
Speaker 10: of the Bible, one of which is my understanding of
Speaker 10: forgiveness is it's repent, rebuke, repent, and then forgive. It's
Speaker 10: not in the order of I just forgive you. And
Speaker 10: to his point, if you come to me and you say, listen,
Speaker 10: I'm really sorry, I shouldn't have stabbed your daughter and
Speaker 10: come into the country illegally. Will you forgive me? Then
Speaker 10: it's up to me to sort of overcome what's happened. Now,
Speaker 10: I could tell you firsthand that I would never forgive
Speaker 10: anybody that hurt one of my children. But there are
Speaker 10: people that do it, God bless them. It's not for me.
Speaker 1: But that's that's Kirk had a very powerful moment that
Speaker 1: the whole nation watched.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that good for her. I could never do it.
Speaker 10: I would have been completely opposite from her. I never
Speaker 10: would have been able to handle it that way. And
Speaker 10: I would never go.
Speaker 2: Up important try and kill the person.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, and I would be probsolutely absolutely.
Speaker 6: Yep, you know it that you just summarized that Matthew
Speaker 6: eighteen passage for me very very clearly and.
Speaker 2: Let me she did though she did not. I mean,
Speaker 2: you two are conspiring here to.
Speaker 1: To rationalize the way. It's a very strict command to
Speaker 1: give others as as you want to be forgiven, period,
Speaker 1: you will be forgiven as.
Speaker 10: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: You don't forgive them forget how to ask for it?
Speaker 10: No, that's not true. Does something.
Speaker 1: As we forgive others that ask for forgiveness. It doesn't
Speaker 1: say that.
Speaker 10: It's it's it's implied.
Speaker 1: It's implied. Now you're going to you're going to put Jesus'
Speaker 1: words implied. Make it up as you go along the whole.
Speaker 10: I'm not an expert pastor. What do you think is
Speaker 10: it imployed?
Speaker 6: It's it's a simile. The word as is a simile.
Speaker 6: You cannot interpret that verse seon literally, so that literally,
Speaker 6: if I forgive somebody else, then God will forgive me.
Speaker 1: I can't interpret the Lord's prayer God's God's own own
Speaker 1: words literally, I shouldn't interpret it. List like, well, what
Speaker 1: other part of the Lord's prayer should I not interpret?
Speaker 6: I'm saying you just don't have a complete understanding. It's
Speaker 6: well known factory to get good.
Speaker 2: So you're making up your own understanding. That's my point.
Speaker 6: Oh I'm not. I'm highlighting other passages that are relevant.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Good, Listen, both of you can go up to the
Speaker 1: pearlygates together and sit there and hope that you can
Speaker 1: argue with Jesus that he made you this way.
Speaker 2: It's his fault that you have a hate list.
Speaker 10: No, you know what's going to happen. I'm gonna get
Speaker 10: to the pearlygates and you can be like man, I
Speaker 10: give you a lot of credit. You worked hard with Sean.
Speaker 10: Good for you, Linda. You really tried. That's what he's
Speaker 10: going to say to me.
Speaker 1: You know, you just imagine it away. You just imagine,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever you think is gonna happen. And he's
Speaker 1: going to say, why didn't you follow my command? I
Speaker 1: gave you a simple command to forgive other people, and
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do it because you're too stubborn and prideful.
Speaker 1: That's right now, I admit I'm stubborn and prideful.
Speaker 8: Son.
Speaker 2: I repent of my sins.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm sorry I feel that way. But if you
Speaker 10: hurt me or my family.
Speaker 1: No, you're not sorry. You feel that way. You're full
Speaker 1: of Now you're lying.
Speaker 10: Well, I'm sorry to the Lord. I'm sorry to the Lord.
Speaker 10: I'm not sorry to anybody else.
Speaker 1: Oh good, I'm all right. This discussion is dying. I
Speaker 1: can't take it anymore. I really can't.
Speaker 10: Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Good idea. All right, let's say hi
Speaker 1: to Donna North Carolina. What's up, Don.
Speaker 8: I'm from the beautiful Charlotte, North Carolina. Great place, man,
Speaker 8: love it here, have been here forty years. But I'm
Speaker 8: gonna tell you last week that Carlos Brown Junior, the
Speaker 8: one that killed the Irad Zaraska, not.
Speaker 2: The Ukrainian woman on that train.
Speaker 8: Yes, Sirrainian woman that he killed her on that train.
Speaker 8: He went to court last week and they threw it.
Speaker 8: They didn't throw him out of court, they just threw it.
Speaker 8: They said he was incomparable to stand trial, incapable sorry
Speaker 8: of standing trial. So they said come back in thirty days. Now,
Speaker 8: my question to you, Sean is he went by the way.
Speaker 8: He wasn't incapable of getting welfare, he wasn't incapable of
Speaker 8: getting EBT. He wasn't capable of getting a free train
Speaker 8: pass or many other things he got. But he's in
Speaker 8: capable of standing trial. So they're going to bring him
Speaker 8: back in thirty days. But my thing was, even if
Speaker 8: he is capable of standing trial, who cares? He's not
Speaker 8: innocent he I mean, it's right there. Everybody's seen it.
Speaker 8: It was a horrible, horrible thing that our Democrat mayor
Speaker 8: and our Democrat sheriff that I don't know if you
Speaker 8: remember seeing him, that didn't know what part of the
Speaker 8: constitution he works under. They're both democratic. It's the whole
Speaker 8: Jewish diction. All the time.
Speaker 1: You have this horrible set of candidate that was then
Speaker 1: Governor Roy Cooper that let this guy out.
Speaker 8: Oh he's horrible. Yeah yeah. My thing is, Sean Number
Speaker 8: one is just just tell the guy he's guilty. I
Speaker 8: don't even think they should put him in jail people
Speaker 8: like this. Why should we give him three meals a day?
Speaker 8: Just just yeah, I don't Yeah, I'd say, just you know,
Speaker 8: put him in the lecture chair.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you down in the category of law
Speaker 1: and order, safety and security first, and I'll pull you
Speaker 1: out of the key fund, dismantle no bail, reimagine the
Speaker 1: police column.
Speaker 2: I agree completely. You couldn't be any more right.
Speaker 8: Why can't judges be held accountable for this stuff? He
Speaker 8: was let go fourteen times. He was able to walk
Speaker 8: out of that court.
Speaker 1: Every one of them, every person involved in this guy's case. Frankly,
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, has blood is they're on
Speaker 1: their hands. They're guilty. Yes, never should have never should
Speaker 1: have been out. Oh you're right, I agree. Oh well,
Speaker 1: welcome to the stupid justice system of the radical left,
Speaker 1: because that's what it is. That's what's on the ballot
Speaker 1: in November. Anyway, my friend, I'm gonna move on. Appreciate
Speaker 1: the call don Sean our number if you want to
Speaker 1: be a part of the program. Keith and Alabama. Keith,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind?
Speaker 4: Hey Sean, it's good to talk with you. We go
Speaker 4: back a long way. I never forget in the early
Speaker 4: nineties being in Huntsville and how my.
Speaker 2: Dad thank you.
Speaker 4: There's two people you can listen to, and that's Rush
Speaker 4: and Sean. And he said they'll guide you the right
Speaker 4: direction for his forgiveness. To give a brief history really quick,
Speaker 4: My wife's mother was killed by a drug driver. My
Speaker 4: my wife's diddy was murdered. He was shot in the back.
Speaker 4: My only child lost his life to medical malpractice. So
Speaker 4: we understand what it's like to forgive. You and lend
Speaker 4: u both a right to an extent. You aren't supposed
Speaker 4: to forgive people, but there's one thing about it. You
Speaker 4: can say you forgive all day long with your lips
Speaker 4: and let's that's in the heart. There's no forgiveness. And
Speaker 4: Linda says they need to come to you if I
Speaker 4: understood correctly and ask for repentance. I believe that. I
Speaker 4: believe they have to have a broken heart.
Speaker 2: No, I disagree completely.
Speaker 1: I think you should forgive regardless of whether they asked
Speaker 1: for it or not, did anyone ask Jesus on the
Speaker 1: cross to forgive them?
Speaker 4: Let me explain that, John, I'll explain that to you.
Speaker 4: The reason I say that is because if that was
Speaker 4: the case, everybody would go to heaven. But unless you
Speaker 4: come to Christ and ask him to forgive you with
Speaker 4: a broken heartened contrast spirit and I belief, you don't
Speaker 4: go to heaven and Christ doesn't ask you to do
Speaker 4: anything that he wouldn't do himself. But you have to
Speaker 4: have a heart that's ready to forgive.
Speaker 2: But that's on their end.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about their I'm talking about on your
Speaker 1: on the forgiveness and whether they ask for forgiveness or not,
Speaker 1: you should give forgiveness.
Speaker 4: You've got to have the heart to forgive. You've got
Speaker 4: to you know.
Speaker 1: For example, there have been people that have come to
Speaker 1: me over issues over the course of my life and
Speaker 1: they've said, you know, can you forgive me or I'm
Speaker 1: sorry or I apologize?
Speaker 2: And I said, I already have.
Speaker 4: That's great, And that's in your heart because through the gospeling,
Speaker 4: through the word of God.
Speaker 2: Well, but that's what I'm saying to Linda.
Speaker 1: Linda is saying that she can keep a hate list
Speaker 1: and not forgive these people. And I'm saying that's not
Speaker 1: what that prayer suggests.
Speaker 4: Well, now you're at the right you can't have that
Speaker 4: hate in your heart. You've got to have her forgive exactly.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Now we get Now, we finally got somewhere. It took
Speaker 1: this long. I hope this is the last call. Did
Speaker 1: you hear that, Linda? It has to come from you.
Speaker 10: You sound a little hateful, Sean.
Speaker 6: I don't know what I'm trying.
Speaker 1: To being hateful. I'm getting. I'm this this topic is
Speaker 1: exhausting me.
Speaker 10: The Lord is exhausting you.
Speaker 2: No, You're You're insane.
Speaker 1: Interpretation of religion and the Bible is a exhausting to me.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm going to tell you this, Keith,
Speaker 1: I'll give you my last word on this as I
Speaker 1: forgive her.
Speaker 10: I haven't asked for it yet, so you can't do
Speaker 10: it yet. I'll let you know when I'm ready.
Speaker 1: But that's not part of the prayers. That is, you
Speaker 1: should forgive.
Speaker 10: The word as is a simile the past.
Speaker 1: Okay, this discussion is officially over. No more calls on
Speaker 1: this topic. We're done, Amen, we have exhausted this to death,
Speaker 1: but I forgive you. That's going to wrap things up
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