1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, I love him. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: I can't get enough of them. 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: Let's hear that both from next Big. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 4: Job there Cooktuffia Creck Feruck. 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involvedle. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 4: That's so. 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 5: Well, Ken Flow got the collared shirt memo for this 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 5: episode Sunday, February fifth, twenty twenty three, Episode three eighty 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 5: six of the Attic and Florian Podcast. I can honestly 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 5: say if this is episode three eighty six, and it is, 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 5: I just said it was. I don't think I've ever 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 5: worn a caller on this podcast, not one time. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 6: I think you're right. I don't remember it. 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 5: Maybe for some awards show we got dressed up, but 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 5: I don't even think that, right. 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 6: I don't even think fucking that I did. 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 5: We did one episode in our Fox studios when we 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 5: had a licensing deal with Fox, and I might have 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 5: thrown on a caller for that. But as my daughters 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 5: can attest, you know, we're essentially wearing pajamas out here 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 5: in South Florida, speaking of Witch. 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 6: Not that we willed it to happen. 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 5: You know, once I saw some of these Floridian bas 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 5: fighters on the fight card, like Santiago Ponzinibio, I started 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 5: to think this shit might happen. So UFC two eighty 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 5: seven April eighth, I already booked a room for my 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 5: daughter and my wife at the W Hotel Miami, one 30 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 5: point three miles from Miami Dade Arena. It needs naming 31 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 5: right now, but it's the home of the Miami Heat 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 5: and for the first time in twenty years, Ken Flow, 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 5: the UFC is headed to not Hollywood, Florida, not Fort 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 5: Lauderdale with respect, not Orlando, not Jacksonville, not fucking Tampa, 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 5: three oh five Miami, Florida, fifty minutes from my front door. 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 6: Let's fucking go, super cool man, what a card, What 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 6: a card? 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: And I know for you, uh, that's got to be 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: special just to short drive away and man, tremendous. Hey, 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: you got Jorge Masvidal on there. He's going to be 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: fighting in Miami. That alone is going to be huge 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: for him. And of course that city they'll be there 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 4: to show up and sell out very quickly, I'm sure. 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 5: So I got a lot of text messages after this 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: was announced, and I'm honestly sometimes I'll get a text 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 5: message from somebody who might be like number three hundred 47 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 5: on my list for potential tickets, looking for tickets. Right, 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 5: It's like, man, you know, they're like twenty five family 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 5: members that aren't getting tickets, never mind people that are, 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 5: you know, on a tertiary list. It's a very exciting 51 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 5: thing though, right because even though the UFC has done 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 5: fight nights in Hollywood, I think you and I called 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 5: Thiago Santos knock and Steve Bossi's head into next week 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: in Hollywood, Florida, if I'm not mistaken. You know, Seminal 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 5: hard Rock and we mentioned Jacksonville obviously has been omnipresident 56 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 5: on the UFC schedule Tampa Orlando, but not since UFC 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 5: forty two Sudden Impact April twenty five, two thousand and three. 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 5: There's the Wikipedia page to prove it. Has the UFC 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 5: been in Miami, Florida that night? Ken Flow Welterweight title 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 5: fight Your old friend Sean Shirk and Matt Hughes twenty years, man, 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 5: twenty fucking years. 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 6: It's crazy. 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 5: You were I guess you were in your mid twenties, 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 5: and I guess just starting to probably embark on your 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 5: UFC or your MMA journey, it says here. Joe Rogan 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 5: provided the lead commentary for this event and was joined 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 5: by color commentator Phil Baroni, with further analysis by Eddie Bravo. 68 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 6: Very cool, very excited. 69 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: I'm going to try to buy a bunch of tickets, 70 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 5: and my daughter Riley, who's eleven, will be in the 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 5: building for the first time at. 72 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 6: A UFC pay per view, which is very exciting. 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 5: So, by the way, I have a mug here of 74 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 5: decaffeinated green tea and it says on it you can 75 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 5: ignore the queen, but she's still the queen. Right now, 76 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 5: I got this mug for my wife. It's a nice mug. 77 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: Like if somebody gets me a mug that says you 78 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 5: can ignore the king, he's still the king, I'd be like, no, 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: you can't fucking ignore the king. 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 6: I don't care about any title or being the king. 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: And this mug that I purchased essentially gives me the 82 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: right to ignore the queen, which is my wife. So 83 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 5: you can ignore the queen, but she's still the queen. 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 5: All right, Well, I'm fucking ignoring you can be the fucking. 85 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 6: Queen, you can be the FI. I don't care what 86 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 6: you are, all. 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 5: Right, we have a lot of things to get to, 88 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 5: but I thought Miami should lead the dance. Even though 89 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 5: the biggest superstar and mixed martial arts history is back. 90 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 5: We all knew he'd be back, or I shouldn't say that, 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 5: but most of us, certainly any of us who know 92 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 5: what makes this man tick, knew that Conor McGregor was 93 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 5: going to be back in a competitive setting. And there's 94 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 5: really only one setting for him, and that's the UFC, 95 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 5: and it's going to be Michael Chandler at one hundred 96 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 5: and seventy pounds, and it's going to come on the 97 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 5: tail end of a stint on the ultimate fighter between 98 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 5: these two gentlemen. 99 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 6: Your thoughts on all of that. 100 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: I think this is the right move for a couple 101 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: of different reasons. I think it's the right move for 102 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: the UFC. You have a guy in con McGregor who 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 4: has been the biggest name, one of the biggest names. 104 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: It's one of the biggest names in sports, let alone 105 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: the UFC and mixed martial arts, and he's taken on 106 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: one of the most exciting fighters in mixed martial arts 107 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: in Chandler. I think it's a good fight. I think 108 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: it's going to be an exciting fight. Both those guys 109 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: have a shot. I'm looking forward to seeing how Connor 110 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: McGregor comes back from this. 111 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 6: On a technical level. 112 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: I think it's a good fight for him in this 113 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: first comeback after that broken leg. Chandler of course is 114 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 4: going to oblige and try to stand in trade to 115 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: try to entertain the fans. 116 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 6: I think I would think, So, I don't know. I 117 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 6: think it's going to be. 118 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: An exciting fight and a huge one, and it's a 119 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 4: good way to kind of build it up with the 120 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: Ultimate Fighter, all. 121 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: Right, So Connor McGregor will be competing at one hundred 122 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: and seventy pounds and I hate to get ahead of 123 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 5: ourselves in some respects, right because they are going to 124 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: coach on the Ultimate Fighter, And I do think it's 125 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 5: a setting in which both men obviously can shine and 126 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 5: we'll see. You know where Connor McGregor is at in 127 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 5: terms of his overall commitment, right because I have said 128 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 5: he is a master orator. 129 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: Right. 130 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 5: Puts me to shame when it comes to like natural 131 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 5: articulation skills. If Connor McGregor is willing to give people 132 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: things on television alongside Michael Chandler. It could be absolutely electric, right, 133 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 5: But ultimately for Connor McGregor, he's seven to zero in 134 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: the UFC at one hundred and forty five pounds, one 135 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 5: in three in the UFC at one hundred and fifty 136 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 5: five pounds, two and one at welterweight, So there are 137 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: some unknowns with Michael Chandler competing at welterweight? How do 138 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 5: you handicap this fight? I'll get you the betting line 139 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: in a minute. You know, my twin brothers like ripping 140 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: on you and me, by the way, just because we 141 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 5: can't like predict the betting line. It's like, okay, buddy, 142 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: you know he's like, dude, you guys think that fucking 143 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 5: Gilbert Burns would be minus one ninety against Jorge Mosvidal. 144 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 5: He's like minus four to thirty five properly priced. So 145 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 5: we'll get into that a little bit later. But what 146 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 5: do you think about Connor McGregor and this fight at welterweight, 147 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 5: even though seemingly it could still be a fight that 148 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 5: is relevant when it comes to the lightweight championship picture. 149 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 6: Uh, Connor McGregor can fight at any weight. 150 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: At this standpoint, the name is going to bring in 151 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 4: fans to watch no matter what. And at one hundred 152 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: and seventy pounds, I don't think it's going to be 153 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 4: a big deal for either Chandler or Connor McGregor. 154 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 6: They're both around the same size. 155 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: Chandler is going to be a little shorter, little bulkier, 156 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: And for Connor McGregor, I think that he's at the 157 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: stage of his career where unless it's for a belt 158 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: or leading to a belt, you know, I don't see 159 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: him wanting. 160 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: To cut that weight at this standpoint. So I don't know. 161 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: I think this may favor Connor in some ways, but 162 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 4: Chandler's not going to have a problem in the power 163 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: and strength department fighting at one hundred and seventy pounds 164 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: against a true one fifty fiver in Connor McGregor. 165 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 5: I wonder the extent to which Chandler wants to wrestle. 166 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 5: I mean, perhaps there's some backdoor agreement that he can't wrestle, 167 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 5: that he just has to strike no, But I think 168 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 5: largely it'll be a striking fight, and I do think 169 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 5: one of these men is getting knocked out. So Kenny 170 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 5: care to venture a guess as to what the betting 171 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 5: line might be for these two individuals, and you're right. 172 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 5: As I let you marinate on it, I want to 173 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 5: give you twenty seconds to think about who might be 174 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 5: favored and where the price might be. But you know, 175 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: it's not like this easy cut for Michael Chandler down 176 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 5: to fifty five or fifty six. Right Like, if this 177 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: was you at this stage of your career, You're Michael Chandler. 178 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 5: Ken Flow would love to have this fight at one 179 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 5: hundred and seventy one pounds. So to that end, Ken Flow, 180 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 5: who's the favorite? What do you think is the betting 181 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 5: line Connor McGregor and Michael Chandler at a date to 182 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: be determined? 183 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. 184 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: I think that there's gonna be a lot of question 185 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: marks around Connor McGregor's return that leg and how that 186 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: holds up. Chandler has been the more active guy, so 187 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 4: I would assume that Chandler is going to be the 188 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: favorite here in and around what two to one? 189 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 5: So Cody, unless I am mistaken, it is minus one 190 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 5: ten on both sides. I looked it up on best 191 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 5: fight ons dot com. Yup there it is from DraftKings 192 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 5: Sportsbook minus won ten on both sides. Now getting predictive 193 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: when it comes to forecasting betting lines, like Kenny, if 194 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 5: you saw what I predicted for some of these lines, 195 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: like for UFC two eighty four before I write him down, 196 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 5: God awful. Right, So it's not always the most exact science. 197 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 5: Take my Austin Allen Burns for example. Now, I understand 198 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 5: that Gilbert Burns is going to be a favorite, and 199 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 5: in my mind prohibitively so. But minus five hundred to 200 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 5: me is still a huge number. And that is not 201 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 5: me denigrating Gilbert Burns. And now that that fight is 202 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 5: in Miami, you know, I don't think it hurts either guy. 203 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 5: It's a home game for Gilbert Burns as well. But 204 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 5: the king of the three Zho five is Jorge game 205 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 5: Bred Mosvidal, and right now he's north of plus four 206 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 5: hundred to meet. 207 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 6: That's a huge number. All right. 208 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 5: Let us briefly get into UFC fight night, Lewis versus Spivoc. 209 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: We call him Spivoc here on the Attican Flooring podcast 210 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 5: Fucking speedbac out there. So you felt like this main 211 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 5: event result was an eventuality. You felt like this matchup 212 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 5: for Derek Lewis at whatever stage of his career, was 213 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 5: just not good. And obviously you lauded Sergey Spivoch in 214 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 5: the process, but you made it a three unit play, 215 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 5: and whether you stayed up until three point thirty in 216 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: the morning or not, it didn't take long for you 217 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 5: to get this one to the get this one home. 218 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 5: So what were your thoughts on the butting head the 219 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 5: weight contender Sergey Spivak. 220 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 4: You know, I think it's a reminder for everyone out 221 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 4: there who gets excited when they see a guy lean out. 222 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 6: We are so programmed to look at visual. 223 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: Things like what we see he looks jacked, and he 224 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 4: looks this, and he looks leaned out, and I saw 225 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: him lift this and this, Like nobody cares. You need 226 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 4: skills at the end of the day, Okay, and Spivoc 227 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 4: was a terrible matchup for Derreck Lewis. I am just 228 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: always blown away by Spivoc and how technical his takedowns are. 229 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: Nobody seems to be talking about this or appreciating the 230 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 4: high level takedowns that he's doing. 231 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 6: You know, this isn't just a. 232 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 4: Regular single leg or a double leg, which of course 233 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: can be appreciated and are very difficult to pull off. 234 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: But when I see a guy looking for foot trips 235 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: in immediately combo off of that into a head and 236 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: arm frow right into side control. 237 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 6: This is high level stuff, guys. 238 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 4: I don't think people realize how difficult it is to 239 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: execute high level judo skills in mix martial arts. 240 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 6: So Spivok's a problem. Uh. 241 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: He stayed on Derek Lewis and exposed a vulnerability in 242 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 4: Derek Lewis that is just not going to get short 243 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: up at this stage of the game. You know, yes, 244 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 4: he looked like he was leaner, but that's not going 245 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 4: to improve his jiu jitsu skills. He's got to be 246 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: on the ground working that every single day, a couple 247 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: times a day. That is the hardest skill, grappling, wrestling, 248 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: jiu jitsu, sombo, whatever, the grappling skill. You need to 249 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 4: improve that and do it for a long period of time. 250 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: And Derek Lewis has never looked comfortable, He's never looked 251 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: dangerous on the ground. He always seems like he's lost 252 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: down there, and that's gonna that's going to be the 253 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 4: case moving forward. This is why it was not a 254 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: good fight for him and the and the lack of consistency, uh, 255 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 4: and then the full consistency on Spivoux side. You know, 256 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 4: this is a guy who's very consistent. He knows exactly 257 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: what he needs to do, goes out there and executes it. 258 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: And yeah, I thought it was a very very clean 259 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: performance from him. 260 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 5: I'm really excited to see Sergey Spivak now against one 261 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 5: of the heavyweight divisions A lead and Cody, if you 262 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: could populate the chat with the top ten, I'd appreciate that. 263 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 5: You know, sometimes it is hard to quantify what you're seeing, 264 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 5: even for somebody like me who is paid to watch 265 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 5: these UFC live events twenty five times a year. Am 266 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 5: I supposed to sort of denigrate Derek Lewis because I 267 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 5: feel not that I feel shortchanged by the main event, 268 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 5: Like I felt like I knew what was going to happen, 269 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 5: you know, our podcast producer felt like Derek Lewis, you know, 270 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 5: felt like Spivok should have been minus one thousand, right, Like, 271 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 5: Am I supposed to credit Spivok as you have done? 272 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 5: Or am I supposed to just like get excited about 273 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 5: Spivak now against one of the divisions Elite because candidly, 274 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 5: for me, Kenny, Like, I woke up to watch this 275 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 5: fight and I didn't even bother not getting a spoiler. 276 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 5: It just felt like an eventuality, right, just to avoid 277 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 5: that early onslot from Derek Lewis or whatever it is, 278 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 5: get him down and you know, yeah, I mean Derek 279 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 5: Lewis was able to, you know, force these perpetual matt 280 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 5: returs because he. 281 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 6: Was able to get up. 282 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 5: But my gosh, man, like, I don't know, I just 283 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 5: if I look at Shamil abdur Rahimov against Jailta now Mada, 284 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 5: at least Shamil is like desperate and urgent and right am, 285 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 5: I nuts, no. 286 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and this is a performance. 287 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I would think that is going to cause the 288 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 4: UFC to really look at Derek Lewis and go, I 289 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: don't know if we if we can have him in 290 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 4: a main effen again, and that's that's gonna. 291 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 6: Hurt him in a lot of different ways. 292 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: And maybe he's done, maybe he doesn't really care about 293 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: that stuff, but uh, for the UFC, it's unfortunate because 294 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: he was one of those guys that you can rely 295 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: on to go out there fight and fight hard. 296 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 6: But I think that that weakness on. 297 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 4: The ground is is inability to adapt in a just 298 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: over time and really improve that skill. And this performance 299 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 4: here where he literally did nothing there is not like 300 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: a lot of times as a fighter you're like, okay, 301 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 4: I lost, but let me see what I can do 302 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: to improve and let me look for some positives here. 303 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 4: There's just no positives here for Derek Lewis in this 304 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 4: in this fight. Unfortunately. I love the guy, he's hilarious, 305 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: He's always going to be dangerous on the feet, but 306 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: this was one of those where I'm not sure we'll 307 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 4: see him in a main event for a very long time, 308 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: unless he's able to go on some kind of long 309 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 4: street because right now, you're not selling the fans on 310 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: a Derek Lewis Paine event at this anytime. 311 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: You're right, you're right, and you say it respectfully as usual. 312 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: You give him a striker maybe on pay per view, 313 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: but you can't give him a well rounded top seven 314 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 5: heavyweight at this stage of his career. It's just not 315 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 5: going to happen. And you know, the positives for Derek 316 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: Lewis obviously the show money, the bank roll, the bank account, 317 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 5: whatever that check is going to be for this headlining spot. 318 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: The UFC has long had a pension for headlining heavyweights, 319 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: and you know there are a lot of women that 320 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 5: that headline. There are a lot of heavyweights that headline 321 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 5: if you look at the UFC fight nights annually, and 322 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: it certainly goes back to the Joe Silva Dais with 323 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 5: the heavyweights. I understand it, right, baddest man on the 324 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 5: planet collectively, but uh yeah, I would agree with you. 325 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: So in terms of Sergei Spivak, as we spin it forward, 326 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 5: ken Flow, I know we had Marching Tabora, who is 327 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 5: number ten in the world, win a fight on this 328 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: very card against Buaguoi Ivanov. I mean I could I 329 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 5: think you could headline Spivoc again every day of the 330 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: goddamn week. 331 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 6: Jargino Rosenstrike is out there at number nine in the world. 332 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 5: Derek Lewis was seven, So you got to think that 333 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 5: Sergei Spivok moves into that top seven. Tom Aspinall on 334 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 5: the men number six in the world. You know, Aspinall 335 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 5: has actually talked about an outside chance that he gets 336 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 5: back for UFC two eighty six. I don't see that, 337 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 5: but uh any thoughts on who you'd like to see 338 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: next for the Polar Bear Spivak. 339 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: Well, I kind of like a nice, consistent, steady climb up. 340 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: I don't think it warrants a huge jump up because 341 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 4: he's still getting the right experience. 342 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 6: He didn't get any challenge in this fight. 343 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 4: But if the other guy, the other heavyweight who fought 344 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: marchin Taibora, why not put him up against Serge Spiebok 345 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: isn't one of those things that people are gonna go 346 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 4: nuts about. But Tybora is very consistent. He's fighting very 347 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: smart right now, and I think that's another one where 348 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: if you do see Spivak as a guy who could 349 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: challenge for the belt in the future, I think that's 350 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: a nice challenge for him to gain a lot of 351 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: experience improve from there, and we'll see exactly how good 352 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: he is, because Tybora is definitely a tough challenge for him. 353 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 5: In terms of Derek Lewis and the cardio and maybe 354 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 5: the body fat right, I will agree with you. I 355 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 5: will try, as an MMA fan to Lee and a 356 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 5: broadcaster more importantly, I will try to not lean so 357 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 5: much into that stuff. But when Joanhway Lee can flow 358 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 5: picks up fucking Francis and god right, that still should 359 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 5: count for something, right? Is that okay if I use 360 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 5: that on the broadcast, right, Because sometimes there are things 361 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: like that, honestly, Like, how many strawweights right other than 362 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: John Way Lee and maybe Jessica Andrage And I'm sure 363 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 5: there are a bunch of Tatiana Suarez motherfucking me out 364 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 5: there somewhere. 365 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 6: Casey O'Neil, I love you. 366 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: I'm not talking about your division right now, but Kenny, 367 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 5: how many strawweights are going to be able to pick 368 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 5: up Francis and Ghana the way Jeanwei lead it? 369 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 3: Right? 370 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 5: Like, sometimes I feel like there's something that actually we 371 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,479 Speaker 5: should lean the fuck into now. 372 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm also just thinking about how Annik needs to 373 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: go into stand up comedy at some point. Yeah, no, 374 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 4: I I agree, dude, She's she is one of the 375 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 4: best athletes in the UFC period. The improvements, the athleticism 376 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: that she displays in the UFC, it's something you got 377 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: to talk about because how many people look like that 378 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 4: technically and physically in such a short amount of time 379 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 4: that you got to be something special in order to 380 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: do that. 381 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 6: So, yes, there are exceptions, no question, thank you, thank you. 382 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm kind of on one a little bit 383 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 6: this morning. 384 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: So the whole routine about you can ignore the queen, 385 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: but she's still the queen with the mug, right, Like 386 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 5: you could turn that into stand up comedy. 387 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 6: You absolutely could. 388 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 2: Uh? 389 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 5: Is sexism still allowed in twenty comedy? It's it's all good, right, okay, 390 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: because I have you know, I have I could say 391 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 5: negatively about men and women. You know, I happen to 392 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 5: enjoy hanging out with men more than hanging out with women. 393 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 5: But to the women who listened to this program. 394 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 6: God love you. 395 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: All right. 396 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 5: So a couple of big retirements this weekend flow Tom Brady, 397 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: fad Or Millionenko. So I'm gonna take you on a 398 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 5: little trip down memory lane. I promise I won't bring 399 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 5: up your career and embarrass you. But Fadoor Milioneco retires 400 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 5: after a loss to Ryan Vader. 401 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 6: And this dude was the man. 402 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 5: Like when I was first starting to cover mixed martial arts, 403 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 5: it's like, hey, man, fad Or Milionenko, right, forget no 404 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 5: mar Right, you want a one name athlete, it's fad 405 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 5: Or and it's probably Fyodor, and you better pronounce his 406 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 5: name correctly. And at the time we started MMA Love 407 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 5: two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, Fador had 408 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 5: just defeated seven foot two inch Hogman Choi to improve 409 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 5: to twenty eight and one. Hogman Choi, by the way, 410 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 5: would go on to beat the likes of Jose Canseco anyway. 411 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 5: So Fador was twenty eight and one when we want 412 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 5: when we launched the live in two thousand and eight, 413 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: and obviously he retires here at forty six years of 414 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 5: age with a bevy of legends behind him. A pretty 415 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 5: cool visual over the weekend for the great fad Or 416 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 5: a Millionaco. 417 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: I was such a huge fan of fader Or a 418 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: millionaireco over time. He beat a lot of jiu jitsu 419 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 4: legends and that pissed me off, and I was like, 420 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 4: I want to see some jiu jitsu guy out there, 421 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 4: just submit him, beat him, do something. And Big Nag 422 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: was my guy, and I was like, he's going to 423 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 4: be the guy. He was not the guy. Fador just 424 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 4: beat everybody in his path. And I think when he 425 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 4: beat crow Cop in the rematch, which was one of 426 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 4: the most special fights in mixed martial arts history, you know, 427 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: I would get up. I was one of those guys 428 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: that'd get up like middle of the night to watch 429 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 4: Pride and Fader was just after that. 430 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 6: I was like, dude, I got it. 431 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 4: And I studied him a lot and I learned so 432 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 4: much from from his fights, and he was one of 433 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: the best heavyweights, no question about it. And it's sad. 434 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: You know, someone posted something about how mixed martial arts 435 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 4: does legends dirty, uh consistently, and well, maybe there's an 436 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 4: argument for that, but you have to understand that it's 437 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: fighters themselves that a lot of times do that. 438 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 6: You know, it'd be nice to kind of. 439 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: Jump on that bandway again and say it's all the 440 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: promotions fault. 441 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 6: Who loves to throw them out to, you. 442 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 4: Know, to to die out there against you know, some 443 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: younger talent, But the fighters oftentimes are the ones making 444 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 4: the decision to fight way past their prime. And you 445 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: know that oftentimes is more sad than anything else. And 446 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 4: you have to understand if you're going out there and 447 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 4: you want to be a part of this promotion and 448 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: be and you know, be a part of these big fights, 449 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 4: they're not going to give you just some can out there. 450 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: They're going to give you someone tough, and uh, you 451 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 4: don't always. 452 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 6: Have a choice. 453 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 4: And if you decide to continue fighting and you are 454 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 4: past your prime. 455 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 6: You I don't know, it's it's kind of on you. 456 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 4: And I think so many fighters fight way past their 457 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: prime and in the pro sys end up kind of 458 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 4: at the very least, diluting their legacy. On on the 459 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: on the other spectrum of things, they end up destroying 460 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: their legacy. I can give you plenty of examples. I 461 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: don't want to disrespect anybody, but it's it's sad, and uh, 462 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: I would love to remember fad Or as the guy 463 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 4: who was the best headweight in the world at a 464 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 4: certain point. 465 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 6: Of course, we never saw him come over to. 466 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 4: The UFC and and challenge the likes of kay Velasquez 467 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: and brock Lesner and some of the other guys. But 468 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: uh so that was unfortunate. But uh, you know, I 469 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: would have liked to see Fadoor Millionaco retire several years ago. 470 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: But hey, this is this is mixed martial arts. It 471 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 4: keeps them happy, it keeps them motivated and inspired, and 472 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: you know who the hell am I But it's just 473 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: sad to see a lot of these guys, uh who 474 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 4: are two legers of the game just stick around for 475 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: too long. 476 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 5: Even if in the case of fat Or Milionaco, you 477 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 5: retire having one two of your last three. Even if 478 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 5: you get some wins, it doesn't necessarily mean that maybe 479 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 5: you shouldn't. 480 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 6: Have retired a little bit earlier. 481 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 5: But it is interesting when you talk about the legendary fighters, 482 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 5: and we're not going to mention them by name, but 483 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 5: there are probably a dozen or two legends. 484 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 6: Right Who's I'm. 485 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 5: Gonna come back to it Wikipedia pages right, just looks 486 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 5: like a Jamaican beerd just a bunch of red stripe, 487 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 5: just red stripe everywhere. So I agree with you in 488 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 5: the case of a lot of these fighters, they stick 489 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 5: around a little bit too long. I don't think that 490 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 5: the UFC necessarily does wrong by the legends. You know, 491 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 5: we do go to great, great lengths with the UFC 492 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame to try to acknowledge all of these athletes, 493 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 5: and I do think in time, like most of the 494 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 5: people who are on the outside looking and are going 495 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 5: to get into the UFC Hall of Fame. But yeah, 496 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,479 Speaker 5: I mean, always more could be done. And to that end, 497 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 5: by the way, did you happen to see the visual 498 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 5: of all the legends with fat or Milioneko? All right, 499 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: So I'm gonna mention them all by name very quickly 500 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 5: if I could. Dan Henderson, Henzo, Gracie, chal Son and 501 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 5: Randy Cootour, Mark Coleman, Frank Shamrock, Josh Barnett, Matthews, Hoist, Gracie, 502 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: the Iceman, Chuck Liddell, Quintin Rampage Jackson. They you never 503 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 5: getting that again. That was really cool to see. I 504 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 5: would imagine Kenny. For a guy like you who fought 505 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 5: for titles, you know, in and around the time that 506 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 5: a lot of these guys were relevant, was pretty cool 507 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 5: for you to see that assemblage of talent, if you will, no. 508 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 6: Question about it. 509 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 4: It shows the amount of respect that other legends in 510 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: the game had for fad Or you know that that 511 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: was their era and fade Or sat above everybody else 512 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: on the throne when they were all fighting. So pretty 513 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 4: cool to see to see that support. 514 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 5: My guy Frank Shamrock out there right. Eve been trying 515 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 5: to bang on Frank Shamrock, fucking legend, man. 516 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 6: Go look up Frank Shamrock in this prime lot of 517 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 6: a lot of injuries. Said no. 518 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: The first MMA event that I covered in Tunica, Mississippi, 519 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 5: in two thousand and seven, the main event was Frank 520 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 5: Shamrock against Henzo Gracy And again, I'm an impressionable, formative 521 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: year type MMA fan at this point in time, and 522 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 5: it was an illegal need of the head, I believe, 523 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 5: from Frank Shamrock to Henzo Gracie that called an end 524 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 5: to the main event. Now can you imagine my excitement. 525 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 5: I'm there, like doing radio all week in Tutica, Mississippi, 526 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: my first ever live mixed martial arts event, a lead 527 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 5: XC one and it ends unceremoniously. You know, so I 528 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 5: wanted Henzo to fight on so for years I was 529 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 5: like team Shamrock. 530 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 6: You it was a couple illegal needs if I remember correct. 531 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, hey, you know back down two thousand and seven, 532 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 5: those are fucking legal as far as I'm concerned with 533 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 5: any promotion. So, uh, Tom Brady also retires, and obviously 534 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 5: for you and me were essentially the same age as 535 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 5: the guy, and uh, much of the joy of our 536 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 5: lives as sports fans was rooted in things that this 537 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: guy was doing on the field. And uh, you know, 538 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 5: I have said repeatedly that I thought Tom Brady would 539 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 5: finally walk away when he started to regress a little bit. 540 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 5: And he's forty five years of age. That has always 541 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 5: been a number that he has trotted out there. But 542 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 5: I think he finally saw us that his skills were 543 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: starting to receive a little bit. And even though he's 544 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 5: still top five in terms of accuracy in my mind, 545 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 5: and you know, still could take a team and win 546 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl next year, I think he finally felt 547 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 5: like there was a little bit of a chick in 548 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 5: the armor and good time to walk away. 549 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 6: So I think that's when you do it right. 550 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: And people were criticizing him, you know, anytime he was, 551 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: you know, in his forties, like what is he doing? 552 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 4: This is crazy? And you know you'd always hear the 553 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: talk even if he was winning. People would love to 554 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 4: talk about that number. And you know, this year was 555 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 4: not the best of years for him, And this is 556 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 4: when you do it because people are gonna still remember 557 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 4: Tom Brady as that dude when the Patriots were down 558 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 4: and it almost didn't matter what that number was, how 559 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 4: much they were down in and we always thought there 560 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: was hope if Tom Brady had the ball, and oftentimes 561 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 4: more often than not, he would find a way to win. 562 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: That kind of championship mentality, that drive the hard work 563 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 4: that he put in the off season, how detailed he 564 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: was with his diet up until you know this year, 565 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: and how good he kept himself in shape, and how 566 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 4: much he studied all that stuff. The level of performance. 567 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 4: I don't care what sport you're talking about. He will 568 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 4: be one of the greatest athletes of all time. And 569 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 4: what makes the story even better is he was forgotten about. 570 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 4: He was this guy who came into the league as 571 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 4: a sixth round draft choice. Drew Bledsoe, who was, you know, 572 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: the guy that the Patriots built their team around, happened 573 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 4: to get injured and Tom Brady went in there and 574 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: never gave Drew Bledsoe a chance to get back in 575 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 4: there essentially, which is crazy because Drew was the man 576 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: still the man, right, and Tom Brady came out of 577 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 4: nowhere to be the greatest quarterback of all time. So 578 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just many movies can be made 579 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 4: about the legend of Tom Brady. 580 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 5: And hopefully in that movie, yes, thank you, Tommy, and 581 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 5: maybe you and I can call an NFL football game 582 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 5: at some point. Although he's gonna be on that A 583 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 5: team forever. I'm sort of like a D team guy. 584 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 5: He is also Sean Shelby's first cousin. So you know, 585 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 5: when Seawn Shelby goes into the UFC Hall of Fame, 586 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 5: perhaps we'll see Tommy there. But you could be sure 587 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 5: Tom Brady's going to be at one of these UFC 588 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 5: live events coming up and really sort of to piggyback 589 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: on your point, and then we are going to get 590 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 5: to Ray Longo, who I'm sure is getting a little 591 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: bit impatient there in the waiting room. But perhaps of 592 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 5: all the great numbers for Tom Brady the seven Super Bowls, 593 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 5: the one that stands out the most to piggyback your point, 594 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 5: forty fourth quarter or overtime comeback wins right next closest 595 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 5: Drew Brees with twenty seven forty times trailing in the 596 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 5: fourth quarter. Those are ws for Tom Brady. All right, 597 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 5: big weekend coming up for UFC two eighty four. Couple 598 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 5: of title fights. It's one epic night, you know what 599 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 5: I'm talking about. UFC two eighty four Mikashav versus Volkanovsky 600 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 5: this weekend is Lomvine to keep his title in the Bulkman, 601 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 5: hoping to make history as the first Aussie to simultaneously 602 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 5: hold a belt in two divisions and we invite you 603 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 5: to get in on the MMA. 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All right, 626 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 5: star of the show is waiting, Let's get to him. 627 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 5: It's the very long Goo minute. 628 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: Is now time for the Ray LONGO minutes. 629 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna push a hole in this fucking shots. 630 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: That's what I want, is the Ray Long Minute. The 631 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. 632 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 5: Minimum age and eligibility restrictions apply. I think Ray Long 633 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 5: goes old enough, but I tell you the guys Agent 634 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 5: and reverse, it is amazing how good you look relative 635 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 5: to uh, you know, the year on your driver's license. 636 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 5: No wrinkles, no bags under the eyes. Deemingly Perhaps it's 637 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 5: because you live in the cold. You stay out of 638 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 5: the sun, but you look great, just sun splashed on 639 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 5: a Sunday morning. 640 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, live in the cold, but definitely don't stay out 641 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: of this sun. Code Yeah, we know you don't Code 642 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: af pod. 643 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 6: Code af pod. 644 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 5: We know you don't stay out of the sun because 645 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 5: you have been caught photographically as a lot of us 646 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 5: public figures have in a very tan state, not quite 647 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 5: like the big tan Dan Murgliata, right, pretty fucking tan. 648 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 6: No, I mean you've been in some of these. 649 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: Photos in a tanning bit. 650 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm not. 651 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: I'm out in the natural sun. That's the difference. 652 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 6: One hundred percent. Yours is the natural vitamin D. 653 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 5: And inevitably this is going to start a thread with 654 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: our Anakin Florian podcast listeners and the Minute Men with 655 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 5: Ray Longo tan photographs. Find some of the big tan 656 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 5: Dan Murgley out of while you're at it. So you know, 657 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 5: I was showing folks my mug off the top of 658 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: the show. This was not a planned bit. Even though 659 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 5: kenfal thinks that I can moonlight is a stand up comic. 660 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 5: It says you can ignore the queen, but she's still 661 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 5: the queen. And so we ask you if somebody got 662 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 5: you a mug, one of your daughters gets you a mug. 663 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 5: It says you can ignore the king, but he's still 664 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: the king. How do you feel about that mug? 665 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 6: You like that mug. 666 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: You could ignore the king, but he's still the king. 667 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: I like that mug. 668 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so you're okay. People just fucking ignore you. 669 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: Oh you know why is that's what's happening right about now? 670 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 2: Right, So I'm heading into those years where I'm I'm 671 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: probably Uncle Junior at this point, I'm just a I 672 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: think I'm running something, but I'm not running anything. Yeah, 673 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: so yeah, I would accept that. I'm accepting aging very gracefully. 674 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 5: So I got this gift for my wife, right, really, 675 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: because it's like a message like, hey to my daughter, right, Riley, 676 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 5: who actually is starting to listen to the anak Implorian podcast. 677 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 6: So it's like, hey, Riley, right, she's listening now, right, 678 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 6: your little bit. 679 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 5: Like you can ignore the queen, but she's still the queen, right, 680 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 5: So you can ignore all you want, but she's still 681 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 5: the queen. 682 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 6: She can still put you in your place. Right. 683 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 5: But I was just saying off the top of the show, 684 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 5: like I don't want to be ignored whether I'm the king, 685 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 5: Like I'd rather people pay attention to what I'm saying 686 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 5: than annoint me the king. 687 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 6: So I don't want that much. That's all. 688 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: Well, I'll take them my way. Talk about your kids, Ma, 689 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 2: and your son is what an adorable kid? Oh right 690 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: to get the post. But man, this kid he could 691 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: melt you ken, you know. 692 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 6: Oh he looks. He looks like he's a little trouble 693 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 6: maker too. 694 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: I love it, And I say, if somebody gets a mug, 695 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: but you can ignore the King's it's he's the king 696 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: right now. 697 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: He is the kid. He looks like the King. What 698 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: I'm looking at, I have to say, adorable kid. 699 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 5: My closest friends in the world, guys like Ray Longo 700 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 5: and Brian Stan, guys who don't have sons, just like 701 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 5: salivate over my son. Right, Brian Stans reached out to 702 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 5: me like, man, this kid just melts my heart. 703 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 6: I don't know why. 704 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 5: It's like, well, maybe because you have five daughters, Brian 705 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 5: Stan and zero suns. Right, No, but he's very cute. 706 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 5: I think you're talking about when he fell during the 707 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 5: national anthem, maybe at the Bruins Panthers. 708 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was it. Well, Stam has daughters. 709 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 5: Yes, three are his and and two or step daughters 710 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 5: that are his essentially. 711 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a that's a real man. 712 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 5: It's actually a pretty amazing synergy between the five of them. 713 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: You know what, John, I was amazed at his combat service, 714 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: but I'm more amazed. 715 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 4: I don't Yeah that service, Yeah, done, yet. 716 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank god, he was well prepared. You know. Yeah, wow, 717 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 3: that's that's crazy. But yeah, you know Wideman's kid too 718 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: little c J. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah crazy though. 719 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 2: So you watch those kids grow up, well even you know, 720 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: till twelve to thirteen. At this point, it's it's actually phenomenal. 721 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 722 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 5: But well, my wife and I are pretty aligned when 723 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 5: it comes to the way we parent, but one way 724 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 5: we sort of disagree is that like I'm okay letting 725 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 5: the kid fall, maybe more than she is. So the 726 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 5: video that you reference my son almost like facials on 727 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 5: the metal stairs at the Florida Panthers ice hockey game, 728 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: whereas my wife probably wants me to close that distance, 729 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 5: and I'm like, this kid's gonna fall. I'm already filming, 730 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 5: like I just can tell. Like the dude thinks he's 731 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 5: the fucking man. He's about to fucking fall now he 732 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 5: caught himself. But for me as a parent and Kenny, 733 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 5: I don't know where you fall on this, but I 734 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,959 Speaker 5: need the kid to fall and get a couple of stitches. 735 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 5: Otherwise he's gonna think he's Superman. He thinks he's the 736 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 5: fucking Hulk. Smash all the time. 737 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, absolutely. 738 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 4: My son literally will like his name is Archer. It's funny, 739 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: but he'll arch as you're holding him. He thinks he 740 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: could do a backflip out of your arms, you know, 741 00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: under whatever. 742 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: You know. 743 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: He jumps, believe in like he wants to walk down. 744 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: He's only a year and a half. He he wants 745 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: to walk down the stairs. He jumps off the stairs 746 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 4: as he does stuff. He climbs anything and everything. He's 747 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 4: you can't control him. The kids, Like boys are so 748 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 4: different from girls, it's crazy unbelievable. 749 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because I was going to say, that's you guys. John, 750 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: I think your mentality is the right mentality because I'll 751 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: tell you if I was. 752 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: What was that? 753 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 2: How old were you when you had your son John? 754 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 6: Ten days before my fortieth birthday? Thirty nine? 755 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: Wow? 756 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I'm a fucking ancient Yeah No, see his 757 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 5: reaction like old ship. 758 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: No, Because you know what I was gonna say, Like 759 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: I watched like Wideman and you know Chris and MARIIVI 760 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: they were young, young parents and it's totally different there 761 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: they're feelss. I mean the stuff they went through, Like 762 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: I was already I think I was thirty seven probably, 763 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 2: so I can't believe that you were. 764 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 3: That's I got you both crazy. 765 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, I really. 766 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 5: Do believe, and we will get back to mixed martial arts, 767 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 5: I assure you in a second. But I do believe 768 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 5: there's some benefits to parenting at an advanced age for 769 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 5: me and Kenny, right, you know, yeah, I really do. 770 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 5: I was a fucking idiot when I was twenty seven. 771 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 5: I'm still not really. 772 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad I did it when I was older, because, yeah, 773 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: my point is I was very protective, over protective, which 774 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 4: I don't think is a good thing. 775 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 2: That's why I say, like, when you see the younger people, 776 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 2: they roll with stuff that I'm having a heart attack over. 777 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 3: But I don't know what it would have been like 778 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 3: at twenty seven. 779 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. So, like you say, we 780 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: were craziert so I don't know. I think the kids 781 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: become more adventurous. Yeah, yeah, my kids are doing great, 782 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: but they definitely every I wouldn't even let them walk 783 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: down the block by themselves, you know what I mean. 784 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: That's why when you get older, it's just you know, 785 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: too much crazy stuff exactly. And I think that that's 786 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: a plus and a minus but that's for another conversation. 787 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 5: Meantime, Ken flow just becomes a more lethal self defense weapon, 788 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 5: Like every day if you're on the Instagram at Kenny Florida. 789 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 6: I mean, Jesus, all right, Kenny. 790 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 2: Kenny, Kenny. 791 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: I went in on that stuff. I love good my 792 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: old cheap days. I'm freaking I love it. 793 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 6: It's so fun. It's a lot of fun. 794 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: I got, you know, I got some good people with 795 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: with some good gun stuff in the gym too that 796 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 2: you would love. 797 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it all right. 798 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 5: So we have a few things to get to excuse 799 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 5: me with Ray Longo. Now, I'm wearing my Ray Longo 800 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 5: minute T shirt today because I'm gonna come at you 801 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 5: a little bit as far as this Extra Rounds program 802 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 5: is concerned. 803 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 6: So, so you what you got? You? 804 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 5: You have your own segment on this show now, like 805 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 5: ask Ray or something? 806 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: Is that? 807 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 6: Is that what it is? This is not a comedy bit. 808 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just rolled with the punch. I don't 809 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 3: know if you can get that, but I. 810 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 5: Just go with the Oh, we got the head movement. 811 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 5: Your WiFi has never been a problem. Just your hair 812 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 5: and your tardiness. 813 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 6: Were like a jealous girlfriend. 814 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 3: My hair I don't know. 815 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 6: I don't now your hair is fine. 816 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: You know, goes back to Kenny a couple of weeks ago. 817 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: I still can't get over that. At what age do 818 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 2: you stop giving the ship? Because I don't know? Yeah, Kenny, 819 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: there is an age, and I know I'm in it 820 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: right now because I just don't give him ship. 821 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 3: Man. I don't know what I really I wish I did, 822 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: I really do. I want to give a ship. 823 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: I just can't. 824 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 4: But there's another quote right there, boom, Yeah. 825 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 5: I mean, can we print the shirts already? I'm in 826 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 5: this guy is just a walking question. 827 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 2: Look, I'm at a point in my life I like 828 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: helping people and just I don't know, Well, what's what's 829 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: what's the problem with that? 830 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 6: Who you helping? M M A fans with this extra rounds? Bro? 831 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 6: That's right if people want to ask you a question. 832 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 3: No, IT'SJ show. I loved it. 833 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: Okay, he's a night very nice guys. 834 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 3: I don't We're not We're not going to attack him. 835 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 6: Either, friend of mine. 836 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 837 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 5: Legendary TJ. DeSantis, original producer of the Anak and Florian podcast. 838 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 5: You know, without him, none of this as possible right 839 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 5: as that's about Dana White. But I mean, did they 840 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 5: poach you to whatever degree? And this is just in 841 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 5: the script here. I mean, I don't know that you 842 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 5: get that gig without the Anna and Florian podcast. 843 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 6: Do you ever worry about like oversaturation or nothing? 844 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 2: Uh? Listen if you if you do my social media, 845 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: if I had a game on social media, I mean 846 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 2: there would be that. 847 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: Don't tweet that. 848 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 2: You can't know you got to. No, No, don't tweet 849 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: your OVERSI no, I don't. I don't even care about that. 850 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: So I'm going back to Kenny's thing. I don't know 851 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: what I'm doing, and I don't care about oversaturation because. 852 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 6: I'm totally messing with you. 853 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 3: No, I know that, but mess with me. I do, Bruce. 854 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 2: I do Buffer's podcast all the time. Anytime Buffet calls, 855 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 2: I tell you I do the podcast. If he called 856 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 2: every week, I'm doing it. So you know, I just 857 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: I try to. I just want to enjoy myself in 858 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 2: my twilight years. Is there any thing wrong with that? No? 859 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 5: But I'll tell you right now, like, if you commit 860 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 5: to doing its time like thirty forty times a year, 861 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 5: you're fucking gone. 862 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: I listened priority wise, af Pie. 863 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 3: What was this? What was the code again, af pie. 864 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 6: There you go. 865 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 3: Hey, are you guys called nothing? Stand up? 866 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh. 867 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 2: The priority is Anak and Florian, Hi, John Anik and 868 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: Kenny FLOORI now I do give you a shit about. 869 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 5: It, my man, It's all love. I mean again my 870 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 5: second marriage. You are in the wedding, you're a grooves man, 871 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 5: you might be the best man. 872 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 6: Well say you know why? 873 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny. But just when I was growing up, 874 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: my cousin got married and he put my father as 875 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: the best man. He was forty four at the time, 876 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 2: which is at that time was crazy because people get 877 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 2: married at nineteen and twenty. It was like a twenty 878 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 2: five year age gap. So that's probably coming down the pipe. 879 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 2: I'll be I'll be seventy as the best man. Well, 880 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: people get married later. 881 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 6: To so we'll see you'll be seventy. 882 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 5: So you're saying my second wedding is happening in seven years. 883 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 5: I mean I was at least gonna let Hunter turn eighteen. 884 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 3: I wish it was seven years. They think it's happened 885 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: in two years. 886 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 5: But uh wow, Bruce Buffer would actually be the oldest 887 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 5: grooms man, which is either here. 888 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 6: Nor there, all right, so it's going. 889 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 5: See, I'm getting a home game Miami, Florida, UFC two 890 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 5: eighty seven. 891 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 6: How good is this? Right? 892 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 5: For the first time in twenty years, and they're getting 893 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 5: Moss Feed All Burns and Atasania Pareeda Act to Slash 894 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 5: ACT four. I mean, dude, Miami's going to be lit. 895 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 5: We got to get you boys down here. 896 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 2: Oh man, I hope for Vola was supposed to be 897 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 2: on the card, so I'm still hoping it is an 898 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 2: outside chance. But we'll see. 899 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 5: I should have used a different adjective than lit. Maybe 900 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 5: cod it can fix that in post. But all right, 901 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 5: a few other things I would like to get to 902 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 5: with you. The main event last night in the UFC's 903 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 5: heavyweight division. All hail Sergey Spivak. I'm excited to see 904 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 5: him against one of the division's elite. But for a 905 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 5: lot of us, we just kind of felt like this 906 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 5: was what was going to happen, that it was kind 907 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 5: of going to be a quick fight, and uh, you know, 908 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 5: Derek Lewis just wasn't ready for prime time for one 909 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 5: reason or another, wasn't ready for the stylistic challenge. Any 910 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 5: thoughts for us on the heavyweight made event that evaporated 911 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 5: about seven hours ago. 912 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean obviously I was up till four 913 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 3: in the more. 914 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 6: Did that watch that live? 915 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: Wow? 916 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 3: I did watch it live? 917 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 6: Is that for extra rounds? They make you do that? 918 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: Why definitely not watch for this? 919 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 920 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 5: Well, I watched it this morning. I didn't stay up 921 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 5: till four o'clock into goddamn morning. 922 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 2: I just woke up and came downstairs to do the podcast. 923 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: We went through this list, we did. But I tell you, 924 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,919 Speaker 2: but the way he got ragged was pretty bad, man. 925 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 2: I mean that that. I don't think we've ever seen 926 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 2: like over and over again just with the wrestling. It 927 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 2: was just that was that was very one sided. And 928 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: I look, I think there's life in the heavyweight division. Well, 929 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: you got a couple of guys now that look that 930 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 2: looked really good. So I think the heavyweight division is 931 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 2: you know, between the fight coming up with Gon and Jones, 932 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: he got some good fights they could make. 933 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 3: So I'm excited for that. 934 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 5: The other thing I just wanted to throw your way. 935 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 5: I sort of referenced Fado or Millioneco near the top 936 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 5: of the show, and he was omnipresent in our early 937 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 5: coverage of Mixed Martial Arts when Kenny and I were 938 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 5: on MMA Love at ESPN in two thousand and eight. 939 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 5: And I have always put that guy on a pedestal. 940 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 5: And I know he didn't fight in the UFC, but 941 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 5: when you look at all the legends that came out 942 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 5: for him last night, you were embedded in this sport 943 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 5: back then, how do you best quantify Fador's legacy and 944 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,280 Speaker 5: his greatness? 945 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 2: Uh? 946 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 3: Look, first of let me just say I did well. 947 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: I tell you if I watched that fight too, which 948 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 2: you know, like we had that discussion not wanting to 949 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: see guys go out like that, but the fact that 950 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: they had all like Coleman and all the guys in 951 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: the ring, you could see that Fato was sincerely touched. 952 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 2: I thought they did a great job on that end 953 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 2: of it, you know, just he looks around and like again, 954 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 2: you could see that just the human side, whereas when 955 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 2: he was coming up, he was more like it, just 956 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: a stone cold killer, those piercing blue eyes, heavy handed, 957 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: was taking care of business with everybody. I don't I 958 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 2: don't like when he started losing a little bit, you know, 959 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 2: and he kept going. I never liked that because he's 960 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 2: another guy that if he would have stopped at the 961 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 2: right time, I think that would have just magnified his legacy. 962 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 2: So the fact that he never got to fight in 963 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 2: the UFC, which was always the biggest show around. 964 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 3: I think is I think it speaks volumes to him 965 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: because he's. 966 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 2: Still known throughout the world, so he didn't need that platform. 967 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: And I think that, like again, I think that speaks 968 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 2: volumes that that's how good and how dominating he was 969 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 2: at one time. 970 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 3: And I think it's just everything it was. His approach is. 971 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 2: Like again his quietness, you know, but you knew there 972 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 2: was like you know, he was just an animal inside, 973 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 2: you know. 974 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 3: It was. 975 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: I like the way he carried himself. I think he 976 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 2: was always a gentleman. I didn't know him, like I 977 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: never met him or anything, but just always carrying himself 978 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 2: with class and victory and defeat. And I think that's 979 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 2: what you want out of a champion. And I wish 980 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 2: we would have got got I wish we would have 981 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 2: got to see him, you know, against some of the 982 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: guys in the UFC. 983 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 3: I think that would have been better. 984 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 2: But still to build a legacy like that without that, 985 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 2: I think it goes to show you who he is 986 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 2: and wow was he appreciative last night? And again it 987 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 2: was we talked about I don't, I don't like that, 988 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: but for some reason it was a good feeling to me. 989 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: I got a warm, fuzzy feeling. It was nice, very 990 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 3: very nice. 991 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: And even the guys in there you could see, you know, 992 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 2: a lot of legends, you know, and they all came 993 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 2: out to support him, and I think I think it 994 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 2: was great. 995 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: I thought Bellatod did, Scott Colka did a great. 996 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: Job with that. 997 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, you set it up beautifully, and you set up 998 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 5: a great visual too, especially for people who are just 999 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 5: listening to this post cast right piercing blue eyes and 1000 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 5: then he'll just fucking maul you or knock you like 1001 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 5: and I guess for me, just because those were my 1002 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 5: formative years Kenny as an MMA fan, like the visual 1003 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 5: of fat Or in the octagon or excuse me, God 1004 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 5: help me, the visual of fat Or in a cage 1005 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 5: setting like about to fight just always felt enormous. So 1006 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 5: we engratulate Paedo Milioneko on a Hall of Fame and. 1007 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 2: John I like those guys that you know, they're not 1008 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: jumping around like hyenas. Right, just go in, do your business. 1009 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 2: You're looking across the ring. The guy is expressionless. You know, 1010 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: it is nothing, you know what I mean, Like you 1011 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: just it's rare that you find those guys that you 1012 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 2: look in their eyes and it's just like blank. 1013 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 3: But you know this storm coming, you know what I mean. 1014 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 2: Like I've been eyebawled eyeball with some fucking pretty serious guys. 1015 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: It's a pretty shitty feeling, you know. And that's the 1016 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,359 Speaker 2: feeling I get from TV when I'm looking at him, 1017 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 2: It's like, what the fuck is going on? And you 1018 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 2: know then he's got you know, a Russian thing is 1019 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 2: always good, right, you know, that's always you know, like 1020 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 2: growing up and with the Cuban missile crisis and all 1021 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 2: that stuff, it's always was a rivalry like kind of there. 1022 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 2: And they just seemed like they were stone cold killers. 1023 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 2: And he fit the part and he be could back 1024 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 2: it up. So great career and again the CEE the 1025 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 2: Human Side last night was just was. 1026 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 3: Great for me. 1027 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 4: Anyway, you're mute at ken Flow and of course if 1028 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 4: you go back a little bit more, sorry about that. 1029 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 4: You know, there was Oleg Taktaroff and all that stuff 1030 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 4: in the early UFCS, but fad Or I think was 1031 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 4: that guy that really inspired a whole generation of Russian fighters, right, 1032 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 4: there were so many people. Sergeis Bivoc, right, who who 1033 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 4: just fought this this weekend, said that was one of 1034 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 4: the guys that he used to watch that inspired him 1035 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 4: to get into mixed martial arts. So, you know, fad 1036 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 4: Or I think was responsible largely for a huge contingent 1037 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,399 Speaker 4: of fighters coming out of Russia and seeing that, hey, 1038 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 4: these fighters can be some of the best in the world. 1039 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, unequivocally, yeah, exactly. 1040 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 2: It was really uh you know, like again, and he 1041 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 2: just even when he even in losing, like even last night, 1042 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: I mean that was a beatdown by Beta, It really was. 1043 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 2: It was a pretty good beata, but he just the 1044 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 2: way he took it was just it made. 1045 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 3: It better for you. Well, well yeah, you know what 1046 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it made it better. 1047 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,919 Speaker 2: And I hope he's okay, you I hope he really 1048 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 2: enjoys the rest of his life. 1049 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 3: And it looks like he's going to go. 1050 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 2: He's got a couple of fighters, he'll stick with the 1051 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 2: coaching and uh, you know they had clips of him teaching. 1052 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 2: You could still see still got the raw power, but 1053 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 2: you know, all that other stuff timing and awareness that 1054 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 2: just it leaves you, you know what I mean. So 1055 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 2: he could he couldn't he could really couldn't find Beata. 1056 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 2: You're swinging for the fences. But and and hats off 1057 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 2: to Ryan Beta man. It's great to see him still 1058 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 2: killing it, you know, because he's he's been out of 1059 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 2: the UFC for a while. 1060 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,280 Speaker 3: But uh, it was it was just a great moment, 1061 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 3: I thought. 1062 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 5: And they did disclose the purses, I believe, because the 1063 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 5: fight was in California and looked like Ryan Bader made 1064 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty thousand, and maybe fat or a million. 1065 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 5: Ain't go one hundred thousand now, obviously that doesn't speak 1066 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 5: to the totality of the night. You hope for fat 1067 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 5: Or it was at least north of half a million 1068 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 5: dollars to be competing at forty six years of age. 1069 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 5: All right, before we let you go right, two other items. 1070 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 5: Big fights on your horizon. Obviously we sit here February five, 1071 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 5: so March eleventh, I believe is Pyotr Jannon may Rob 1072 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 5: Dwallas Willie under the lights in Las Vegas. 1073 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, a big fight. 1074 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 6: Anything else on your horizon in the next three to four. 1075 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 2: Weeks well, February eighteenth, I have Nazim Saudi Cup fighting. 1076 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 2: He's a great fighter, had a great camp. He's making 1077 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 2: his UFC the debut off contend the series knockouts, So 1078 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 2: very excited for him fighting a tough guy out of Killcliff. 1079 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 2: I think they changed the name to Hangyes guy. Very 1080 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 2: excited for that fight and then move on. I'll price 1081 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 2: hopefully I'll stay out there a couple of days and 1082 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 2: just see what's going on with Morobs, so I could 1083 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 2: touch base with him. But uh, you know, we've video 1084 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 2: talked a little bit. Me and Aljie did a little 1085 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 2: video breakdown for him. Nothing much, but uh, you know, 1086 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 2: I hope to stay out there and see how he's doing. 1087 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: But it looks like he's doing fine. So, uh, that's 1088 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 2: a huge fight. So I got two really big fights 1089 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 2: coming up with a lot of local guys before that. 1090 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 2: On March third, we got uh, you know, Bazooka, Anthony 1091 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: de Lemmy, Armando Gatcha. Uh, there's a lot of fights 1092 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 2: still in Montello's fight and I can't even name more. 1093 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: With Pompos fighting this Friday in Boston, He's going up 1094 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 2: to uh Joe Joe Cavalieri show. 1095 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 6: You know, yeah, yeah, one of our. 1096 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 4: Students, snat Our Moodie is going to be fighting on 1097 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 4: that car too, so that that would be cool. 1098 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah he's not fighting my guy, is he? 1099 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 6: No? No, no, no, if so, go Flori in Marshall. 1100 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 2: Oh shoot, but anyway, so I'm excited for that. Pompos 1101 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 2: had a great camp. I'm not going to go up 1102 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 2: there because I'm going to sit back with nas. He's 1103 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 2: finishing up and then we head to Vegas. So it's 1104 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 2: the gym is just it's crazy at this point. I 1105 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 2: don't know. 1106 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 3: It seems like. 1107 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 5: A lot of your best prospects are in action here. 1108 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 5: Over the next three or four weeks. 1109 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got to see a couple of more 1110 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 2: guys on the Contended series. Very very very It's always 1111 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 2: exciting when you when the guys are coming up and 1112 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 2: they just want to get in the UFC and you 1113 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 2: know everybody's doing good. 1114 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 3: Plus well, let me let me and another huge fight. 1115 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 3: Uh when is that? 1116 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 2: Uh March thirty first, justin Montago's fight and uh, a 1117 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 2: guy the kidd in Bellato's name slipped me, uh really good, 1118 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 2: a good prospect Bellatov picked up. 1119 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 6: They come I got. 1120 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 5: I got sort of one shows a year with the UFC. 1121 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 5: I don't know what to tell you. I can't bail yat. 1122 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 3: That's why I love But I'm. 1123 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 6: Glad you know you gave justin Montago. 1124 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's got he's got a big fight 1125 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 2: coming up, and uh he looks fucking fair. 1126 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 3: We got a couple of killers in the gym. 1127 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 6: I love your entergy. 1128 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 2: I mean there's a rushing kid coming up. Who twenty 1129 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 2: three years old, Kenny, These guys, I don't know. I'm 1130 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 2: excited for him. He gets squayed away, You're going to 1131 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 2: see that. I can make a big splite too. So 1132 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,399 Speaker 2: I hope I didn't leave anybody out. 1133 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 3: Let me just think. 1134 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 6: By the way, it's Archie Colgan, who. 1135 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 2: Who's really good. He beat one of my guys. It 1136 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 2: was a really close fight, but one. 1137 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 5: About to fuck up another one of your guys. Montago, 1138 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 5: March thirty one. 1139 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 6: Huh yeah what that? 1140 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 3: That ain't happening. 1141 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,240 Speaker 6: Totally, Kenny. I'm gonna get myself in trouble. 1142 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 5: I'm actually I've actually had a hell of a week, 1143 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 5: by the way, all right, So Bell Tour two ninety three, 1144 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 5: March thirty, first Archie Colgan taking on your guy montage. 1145 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 5: All right, before I let you go, this question is 1146 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 5: for both of you, guys. Cody's making me laugh and wait, wait, 1147 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 5: don't call it. 1148 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 6: The fucking right now? 1149 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 2: Wait, John, I can't answer any questions. They can only 1150 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 2: do that on extra rounds? 1151 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 3: Is that it? 1152 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 6: You're welcome for the promotion of extra rounds on you? 1153 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,240 Speaker 3: It's all good. 1154 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 5: No, But honestly, just go on Buffer Show twenty times 1155 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 5: this year and you see what happens. 1156 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 6: Right, It's almost like that bar graph. 1157 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 7: Right, fuck around and find out, right, you fuck around, 1158 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,919 Speaker 7: you find out, wuck around and find out all right, 1159 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 7: So this last question is for both of you guys, 1160 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 7: and you FC two to eighty four picks are coming 1161 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 7: up later in the week. 1162 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 3: Folks. 1163 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 5: Okay, what is the longest you have been on an 1164 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 5: airplane singularly in your entire life? So for me, the 1165 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 5: answer is about to change, right. The longest I have 1166 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 5: been on an airplane in my life fifteen hours and 1167 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 5: fifty five minutes from Hong Kong to Dallas and then 1168 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 5: I theretofore went from Dallas back to South Florida. Right, 1169 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 5: the longest that I will go on a plane is 1170 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 5: about to be the middle leg of these three flights 1171 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 5: on my itinerary to Perth, Western Australia. From Houston, Texas 1172 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 5: to Sydney seventeen hours and forty five damn. So you're 1173 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 5: on the plane for nineteen hours essentially, so uh. 1174 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I got your beat, though. I think 1175 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 2: I went from you got to check it out. But 1176 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 2: I went from Canada to Japan. I think was eighteen 1177 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: was there you. 1178 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 6: Go any any idea for you? It was either Boston 1179 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 6: or Thailand or it was La to Australia. No job, Dobby. 1180 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 4: I think it was eighteen hours on a flight and 1181 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 4: I had the I had the fucking neurovirus. 1182 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:32,800 Speaker 6: Dude. 1183 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 3: It was oh man, oh nothing, nothing could be what 1184 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 3: that was? 1185 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 4: What? 1186 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 5: I had a jiu jitsu mat to get shall in 1187 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,399 Speaker 5: the tour Shalon rivererta. This guy's fighting for his life 1188 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:42,439 Speaker 5: on an eighteen hour flight. 1189 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 4: Attendant comes over, She's like, are you okay? I was 1190 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 4: just like shaking on the plane. 1191 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 6: Was just airplane. 1192 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, did did Japan trip. That was the last 1193 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 2: time I flew coach. I got off that. I got 1194 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 2: off that plane. My hip's never been the same. Oh 1195 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 2: my god, killed me. That trip killed me, man by 1196 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 2: that horrible. 1197 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 5: That's a great extra rounds flies you business class. That 1198 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 5: is crazy everywhere. 1199 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. But so do you, guys, So do you guys? 1200 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 3: You just don't know it yet. 1201 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 5: That's right, that's right, Yeah, all right, well, uh ray longo. 1202 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 5: We appreciate you, and uh we will talk to you 1203 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 5: in a week's time. We're very excited to recap UFC 1204 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 5: two eighty four, coming up with you next week when 1205 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 5: I get back stateside. 1206 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 6: So uh have a great day to better evening, as 1207 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 6: they say. 1208 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 3: And then you you have a safe travel. Thank you. 1209 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 2: Who you guys picked in the main event, just let 1210 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 2: me know now who we picked it. 1211 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,640 Speaker 6: No, Kenny is gonna say, well, no, Kenny, Kenny. 1212 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 3: Am I blowing up? Look at you, look at your 1213 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 3: favorite spot. 1214 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 6: I'm okay. 1215 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 3: The main Event challenge. I'm not allowed in there. 1216 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 6: I'm okay. I love that you know the name of 1217 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 6: the segment. I'm okay. 1218 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 5: If Kenny wants to give his main Events selection as 1219 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 5: you give yours right now, he's going to give full 1220 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 5: picks later in the week. 1221 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 6: I'm okay, Kenny, you know I do you know right now? 1222 00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 3: No? 1223 00:54:58,719 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 2: No. 1224 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 3: I know, I know Kings is counting on a secrecy thing. 1225 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 6: No, but honestly, I don't even know. 1226 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 4: At this stage, I'm not I'm not exactly sure I 1227 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 4: could go either way. I've been watching fight footage and 1228 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 4: I'm still not exactly sure. 1229 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 6: There you go, how about you, ray Wick? Where you going? 1230 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 3: You know? 1231 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 2: It's it's hard to bet against Islam, right, but I 1232 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 2: I if he's gonna win Volk, I think it's a 1233 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 2: five round decision. 1234 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 3: It's it's all comes down to those scrambles. Man, I 1235 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 3: don't know. 1236 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean we rewatched that. Uh the fight in Russia Zerukian? 1237 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 3: Was that? 1238 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 2: No? Not? 1239 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 6: Is that? 1240 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 2: That's what? And Mahasha, Yeah, let me tell you something 1241 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 2: that fight. That fight was kind of like a drawer. 1242 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 2: That that was the closest even fights. And these people 1243 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 2: don't go crazy when it was a draw it. So 1244 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 2: I'm just having a conversation. But what a close fight. 1245 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Islam really came on. I think he broke 1246 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 2: him in like the late third round. He got some control. 1247 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 2: But that fight was close. So not that that means anything, 1248 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 2: but can Volke can he scramble like that? That's it's 1249 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 2: definitely going to be a different fight for him that 1250 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 2: he's not used to. But on the feet, I think 1251 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,439 Speaker 2: he's quick and he could dance around. If he could 1252 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 2: get up enough times and control the center of that octagon, 1253 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 2: maybe a decision, so I go out on the I mean, 1254 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 2: I just like the odds at three. Whatever we talked 1255 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 2: about last week. It's sometimes it's not who you think 1256 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 2: is gonna win, it's like is it worth taking? 1257 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 6: Well, look at you. 1258 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 5: You sound like a season gambler. I mean, yeah, one 1259 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 5: oh one. You're supposed to bet the number. 1260 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 2: Not But like people, you know, they'll they'll come out 1261 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 2: of heat. Dagistanians that the people sick man got you guys. 1262 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 2: Everybody's got to get a life, no, is it me? 1263 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,359 Speaker 6: Well, I think everybody got a right now. 1264 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,280 Speaker 5: Alexander Voltanowski, by decision on drafting sportsbook is plus six hundred. 1265 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 3: Wow, So I'm betting it. 1266 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 6: All right? All right, Hey, we got to let you 1267 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,240 Speaker 6: go have a have a bloody great Sunday. 1268 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,480 Speaker 3: Okay, bloody great Sunday, Yes mate. Okay, you guys next week, 1269 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 3: you guys, enjoy yourself. 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