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Speaker 1: You know what so many people don't realize is, you know,

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Speaker 1: you weren't making for We weren't making very much money

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Speaker 1: at that time, and we were paid per episode. So

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Speaker 1: you know, it's hard. Math is hard for me. But

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Speaker 1: so say we shot the pilot February ish of two

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Speaker 1: thousand and four, and we shoot one, then we shoot

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Speaker 1: five more, then it doesn't air. Nothing is on television

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Speaker 1: until March of two thousand and five. So we got

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Speaker 1: six paychecks in over a year.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then we didn't start shooting again until, like I said,

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Speaker 1: like July to do the second six, like July of

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Speaker 1: two thousand and five, So it really was almost two

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Speaker 1: full years of like.

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Speaker 2: Live it off six paychecks breathing exactly. And I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: that's people are sitting there going, oh, you're an actor

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Speaker 2: on that. It's not millions or millions, it's.

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Speaker 1: Not no, yeah, no, right, no, I think that. I

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Speaker 1: think the first you know, I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: it wrong, but I think those first six episodes I

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Speaker 1: made about thirty five hundred dollars for one wow, those first.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah wow. Yeah, so that's about twenty five grand

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Speaker 2: a year. Well, yeah, I'm not creanded.

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Speaker 1: Math for for a year. Things quickly changed after that.

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Speaker 2: Ya, that's incredible, but that's unbelievable. You go back to

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Speaker 2: you and again for everybody out there sitting there going, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be my dream, you don't understand like the oh,

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Speaker 2: the pain of that we go through to try and

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Speaker 2: get to where you can exhale and go, I occup pay

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Speaker 2: my bills. And by the way, I don't know about

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Speaker 2: if it's like this for you, but you know, it

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Speaker 2: was eleven years of me making nine grand and man,

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Speaker 2: just being rejected over and over and you have this

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Speaker 2: fear of not being able to pay your bills. For me,

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Speaker 2: that fear has never gone away. I still think Monday,

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Speaker 2: I can't pay my bills and I'm horrified. It's like

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Speaker 2: this monster that builds up inside you and you're always living.

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Speaker 2: That's that's part of the anxiety that I talk about.

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Speaker 2: Even though I've been on Fox and it Will Sunday

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Speaker 2: for twenty years, it's still like Monday's can we go,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to through something.

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Speaker 1: It's all over, do you yeah? Right, same, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you something else. I haven't said this very

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Speaker 1: very much. My best friend at the time and he

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Speaker 1: laughed and laughed and laughed about it. Later told me

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Speaker 1: to quit. Wow that show he goes that, you know

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Speaker 1: it's not airing. It's this is not gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: this is not going to end well. Like like you said,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was, you know, three four thousand dollars time six,

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Speaker 1: that's a year, and you're waiting. You're just waiting and

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Speaker 1: you're waiting and you're like, well, I think we have

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Speaker 1: a chance again. I felt like we had a chance

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Speaker 1: to be something special, but no guarantees and people weren't watching.

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Speaker 1: And that's what he was saying, like nobody's watching. You

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Speaker 1: could get on another show in a second, like just go,

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Speaker 1: you know, tell him to go f themselves and go

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Speaker 1: do this or that. Imagine imagine Yeah, well good a

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Speaker 1: bit