Speaker 1: There is some question about whether it was an inside job.
Speaker 1: That will not be the construction. He absolutely became curious
Speaker 1: at the mention of the Carborn murder. I would say
Speaker 1: he's ruthless. It can become deadly given certain circumstances, only
Speaker 1: for the grace of God to shore and is somehow
Speaker 1: found out the Baltimore County Police. Welcome back to Shattered
Speaker 1: Souls the Carborn Murders. I'm your host, Karen Smith. This
Speaker 1: is episode eight. This podcast may contain graphic language and
Speaker 1: is not suitable for children. Previously on the Carborn Murders,
Speaker 1: the investigators were running themselves ragged, pursuing suspect after suspect,
Speaker 1: only to release everyone without any follow up or explanation.
Speaker 1: Lawrence Pettit, George Bruffy, Walter Oliver, Arthur Waugh, Luke Johnson,
Speaker 1: Harry Simon, Tony the Stinger, Kugino, William Clark, Bill Cleary.
Speaker 1: The list went on and on, and the Carbarn case
Speaker 1: was getting ice cold. A year went by, Detective Theodore
Speaker 1: Volton received a letter on his desk from Horace Davis,
Speaker 1: an inmate of the d C Jail. Detective Volton and
Speaker 1: Sergeant Leroy Rogers interviewed Horace Davis in January of nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty six. Davis implicated his friend Walter Oliver after Oliver
Speaker 1: confessed to being involved in the Carborn murders. Two years later,
Speaker 1: in April of nineteen thirty eight, Horace Davis was taken
Speaker 1: to the U. S District Attorney's office and he gave
Speaker 1: a sworn aff a David regarding his claims. Davis's information
Speaker 1: seemed to be accurate. After the detectives followed up on
Speaker 1: his story about his involvement with Walter Oliver on an
Speaker 1: unreported armed robbery back in nineteen thirty three, they found
Speaker 1: the evidence to back it up. Horace Davis was telling
Speaker 1: the truth. By the middle of nineteen thirty eight, it
Speaker 1: seemed like the State of Maryland was building a case
Speaker 1: against Walter Oliver and others, but nothing ever came of it,
Speaker 1: and there's no explanation or why the charges were either
Speaker 1: noel prost or perhaps just swept under the rug. Things
Speaker 1: were percolating in the background as the detectives continued their
Speaker 1: ground pounding and the political machine was working overtime. Right
Speaker 1: after the Carborn murders, the Capital Transit Company offered a
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollar reward for information that led to the
Speaker 1: suspects that would equate to about thirty thousand dollars today,
Speaker 1: And despite that cash reward, even in the desperate times
Speaker 1: of the depression, nothing came of it. By nineteen thirty seven,
Speaker 1: Transit Company President John Hannah wanted answers, and he had
Speaker 1: to sit down with Montgomery Countiest Aid Attorney James Pew
Speaker 1: to suggest a changing of the guard. Capital Transit President
Speaker 1: John Hannah wanted new, more experienced district detectives assigned to
Speaker 1: the case, and he was of the same mindset as
Speaker 1: the majority of citizens that there didn't seem to be
Speaker 1: a reason why these murders had not been solved after
Speaker 1: two years. On February nine, n seven, John Hannah wrote
Speaker 1: a letter directly to DC Superintendent of Police, Major Ernest Brown,
Speaker 1: outlining his concerns and suggestions. Dear Major Brown. Mr James Pew,
Speaker 1: State Attorney for Montgomery County, has just recently called to
Speaker 1: see me in connection with the investigation of the murders
Speaker 1: of James Mitchell and Emery Smith. He has advised me
Speaker 1: that the investigation at this point is not such that
Speaker 1: an immediate solution is evident, and there's been little activity
Speaker 1: on the part of those detectives who are in the
Speaker 1: beginning assigned to this case. In his opinion, if it's
Speaker 1: possible for you to assign two of your detectives at
Speaker 1: an early date in the future, that a solution is possible.
Speaker 1: He also advises us that those suspected of participation in
Speaker 1: the crime are all from the District of Columbia. We
Speaker 1: don't feel that this request for further cooperation from the
Speaker 1: Washington detectives is unreasonable. Very truly yours, John Hannah. The
Speaker 1: following day, State Attorney James Pew also wrote to Major
Speaker 1: Brown in support of John Hannah's suggestion for more experienced
Speaker 1: DC detectives to take over the flailing case and finally
Speaker 1: get some closure on behalf of the state of Maryland.
Speaker 1: I make this formal request of you to make the
Speaker 1: assignment of two trained detectives to complete the unfinished investigation
Speaker 1: of the murders of James Mitchell and Emery Smith. I
Speaker 1: have come to the conclusion that if you are able
Speaker 1: to assign Lieutenant Floyd Truscott and Sergeant Earl Hartman, I
Speaker 1: feel satisfied that a solution will be made. It is
Speaker 1: not the purpose of this letter to cast reflection on
Speaker 1: any detectives who have investigated this case up to the
Speaker 1: present time. But the fact remains that it is unsolved. Well,
Speaker 1: we have able detectives in Montgomery County, they don't have
Speaker 1: the background or the contacts in the district that your
Speaker 1: men have. Sincerely yours, James H. Pew. Both men lost
Speaker 1: faith in the investigation. Two years passed and the leads
Speaker 1: seemed in their minds to be running dry. The detectives
Speaker 1: suggested by James Pew, Floyd Truscott and Earl Hartman, were
Speaker 1: legendary on the d C Metro Police Department, and they'd
Speaker 1: solve numerous high profile cases over the previous decade. State
Speaker 1: Attorney James Pew thought that if Truscott and Hartmann couldn't
Speaker 1: solve it, nobody could. Two days later, on February twelfth,
Speaker 1: James Pew got his reply from Major Ernest Brown. It
Speaker 1: was not what he expected. My dear mister Pew, I
Speaker 1: am in receipt of your letter of the tenth instant
Speaker 1: in which you request the assignment of two detectives to
Speaker 1: complete the unfinished investigation which was previously discussed in reply
Speaker 1: meant me to advise that I will take the matter
Speaker 1: up with Commissioner Hazen as soon as possible, and if
Speaker 1: he gives his approval, I will be more than pleased
Speaker 1: to make this assignment. Sincerely, yours, Major Ernest Brown ask
Speaker 1: permission from Commissioner Melvin Hazn. Why would the DC Superintendent
Speaker 1: of Police need permission from a d C commissioner to
Speaker 1: assign two of his own detectives to a case. Apparently
Speaker 1: James Pew had that same question, because he wrote to
Speaker 1: Capital Transit President John Hannah immediately. His letter read, in
Speaker 1: part quote, you'll find enclosed a copy of a letter
Speaker 1: that I received from Major Brown this morning. He advises
Speaker 1: me that and James Pew put this part in quotation
Speaker 1: marks he will take the matter up with Commissioner Hazen
Speaker 1: and if he gives his approval, he'll be pleased to
Speaker 1: make this assignment. James Pew finished his letter by asking
Speaker 1: John Hannah to have a talk with Commissioner Hazen himself,
Speaker 1: rather than rely on Major Brown to do it for him.
Speaker 1: So let me get this straight. The DC Superintendent of Police,
Speaker 1: the man in charge of the entire district police force,
Speaker 1: said that he needed permission from d C Commissioner Melvin
Speaker 1: Hazen to reassign two of his own detectives to a
Speaker 1: homicide case, the same case that three of his detectives
Speaker 1: had already been working for two years. That makes absolutely
Speaker 1: no sense. That would be like a police chief for
Speaker 1: sheriff today asking the mayor or governor for permission to
Speaker 1: assign their own personnel to a case. Yes, the murders
Speaker 1: happened within the jurisdiction of Maryland, just a mile over
Speaker 1: the d C line, but DC detectives Frank Brass, Richard McCarty,
Speaker 1: and Robert Barrett had already done plenty of work on
Speaker 1: it without any results. Why in the hell would Major
Speaker 1: Ernest Brown need permission from anyone to assign to new detectives.
Speaker 1: To be fair, I didn't know how the inner workings
Speaker 1: of d C government functioned back in the nineteen thirties,
Speaker 1: So to help answer that question, I did a little research.
Speaker 1: Welcome to history class. If you need to use the
Speaker 1: pencil sharpener, please do it quietly. That was just a
Speaker 1: little tip of the hat to my fellow gen xers.
Speaker 1: Back in the nineteen thirties, the district government set up
Speaker 1: was arbitrary and erratic, a combination of federal oversight and
Speaker 1: local hacks, all having some kind of influence when the
Speaker 1: District of Columbia was a sort of enigma. Washington is
Speaker 1: a federal district, therefore its citizens are not residents of
Speaker 1: a state. DCS citizens had no right to vote in
Speaker 1: presidential elections until the twenty third Amendment to the Constitution
Speaker 1: passed in nineteen sixty one, when the people were finally
Speaker 1: granted electors despite having paid taxes like everybody else. It
Speaker 1: was a really shitty, says Stone, for a long time,
Speaker 1: taxation without representation and sort of a mimic of the
Speaker 1: quagmire of issues that led to the American Revolution. Washington,
Speaker 1: d C is still battling for statehood today. Between eighteen
Speaker 1: seventy eight and nineteen sixty seven, three district commissioners were
Speaker 1: appointed directly by the President of the United States to
Speaker 1: run the local government, but all legislation affecting the district
Speaker 1: still had to be passed by Congress. The district commissioners
Speaker 1: weren't like mayors or governors with a heavy political influence.
Speaker 1: They didn't vote on legislation as did the Congress and Senate.
Speaker 1: They were put in charge of specific areas of district
Speaker 1: business to guide and direct projects and other governmental bodies.
Speaker 1: They were very influential to local government and they were
Speaker 1: put in charge of certain budgets and projects. Okay, formal
Speaker 1: class dismissed. Here's the really important bit to keep in mind.
Speaker 1: Between nineteen thirty three and nineteen forty one, the d
Speaker 1: C commission President was Melvin Hazn. Each of the three
Speaker 1: commissioners had a portfolio of duties on which they provided oversight.
Speaker 1: The Metropolitan Police Department was directly within Melvin Hasn's chosen
Speaker 1: portfolio of duties. Right, Hazen chose to work closely with
Speaker 1: the d C Metro Police, So that begs the previous
Speaker 1: question even further. Why would Police Superintendent Ernest Brown ask
Speaker 1: for Melvin Hazen's permission before assigning his own men to
Speaker 1: the Carborn case. After receiving State Attorney James Pew's request,
Speaker 1: Major Ernest Brown wrote him back a few days later
Speaker 1: and said that Commissioner Hazen had given his approval. But
Speaker 1: the two detectives that James Pew requested, Floyd Truscott and
Speaker 1: Earl Hart, they were on a very secret and very
Speaker 1: important investigation and they wouldn't be available for several months
Speaker 1: to work on the Carbarn case. Major Brown signed his
Speaker 1: letter assuring you of my desire to cooperate fully in
Speaker 1: all matters of mutual interest and with all good wishes.
Speaker 1: I'm cordially yours, Ernest W. Brown. To me, that sounded
Speaker 1: like a big up yours. Going back to where we
Speaker 1: left off in the investigation, Detectives Volton and Rogers and
Speaker 1: the others were still trying to make some headway where
Speaker 1: they could with DC jail inmate Horace Davis and his information.
Speaker 1: During Horace Davis's initial interview in January of ninety six,
Speaker 1: he told Voulton and Rogers that Walter Oliver was good
Speaker 1: friends with habitual felon named Robert Janny. Voulton and Rogers
Speaker 1: followed up and they went to Baltimore to talk to
Speaker 1: Jenny's wife, Lillian. Robert Janny broke Lillian's nose during a
Speaker 1: domestic fight in October of nineteen thirty five, and he
Speaker 1: was serving eight years in prison for committing an armed robbery.
Speaker 1: Lillian said that Robert Janny had been employed as a
Speaker 1: watchman at the Baltimore sales Brook Company but he never
Speaker 1: worked on Sunday nights or Mondays during the day. James
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Emery Smith were killed on a Monday morning.
Speaker 1: When Lillian Janny was asked to recall any strange behavior
Speaker 1: from Robert Jenny the year prior that stood out in
Speaker 1: her mind, she told Volton and Rogers that one morning
Speaker 1: in January of nineteen thirty five, around the time of
Speaker 1: the Chevy Chase murders, Robert Janny came home with his
Speaker 1: pants soaking wet up to the knees, acted really nervous
Speaker 1: all day, and he jumped when a salesman knocked on
Speaker 1: the door. Lillian identified a photograph from it array on
Speaker 1: the coffee table as being William Franklin Clark, the man
Speaker 1: who strolled into police headquarters on the day of the
Speaker 1: murders to front Run Street talk about his possible involvement
Speaker 1: and then inserted himself right in the middle of a
Speaker 1: homicide investigation. Lillian said that Robert Janny met with Clark
Speaker 1: and made casual introductions to her. She also identified James Weir,
Speaker 1: the man who gave William Clark an alibi for the
Speaker 1: night of the murders. Lillian continued and said that one
Speaker 1: evening in May of nineteen thirty five, about five months
Speaker 1: after my uncle's murder, Robert Janny was bragging to her
Speaker 1: about some of his exploits, and he mentioned that he'd
Speaker 1: been a state's witness for the Mary Baker murder case
Speaker 1: and arrogantly told Lillian that the police would never solve it.
Speaker 1: Hold on a minute, the Mary Baker murder case. That
Speaker 1: was one of the most heinous and still unsolved murder
Speaker 1: cases in DC history, and Robert Janny said that he
Speaker 1: was a witness for the state. I gave a few
Speaker 1: details on the Mary Baker case back in episode four,
Speaker 1: but I need to talk about it in more detail
Speaker 1: because if Robert Janny had any involvement, that's really important
Speaker 1: for this investigation. The Mary Baker murder investigation started on
Speaker 1: the morning of Saturday, April twelfth, nineteen thirty when Arlington
Speaker 1: County Deputy Sheriff Archie Richards found an abandoned car in
Speaker 1: the middle of the road near Arlington National Cemetery. He
Speaker 1: looked inside the car and saw a large blood stain
Speaker 1: on the passenger seat. He recorded the license plate and
Speaker 1: notified his superiors that he found what looked to be
Speaker 1: a violent crime scene. That license plate came back to
Speaker 1: Mary Baker. Mary Elizabeth Baker was born on May eighteen,
Speaker 1: ninety eight in South Carolina, the daughter of an episcopal minister.
Speaker 1: Mary was small framed, brunette, and attractive. Mary moved to Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. With dreams of a government job, an ambition
Speaker 1: she realized as a clerk at the U. S. Navy
Speaker 1: Department in the brand new Bureau of Aeronautics. She continued
Speaker 1: her strong religious upbringing by regularly attending services at the
Speaker 1: Church of the epith Any in downtown d C. Mary
Speaker 1: was single, and she had a few casual relationships with
Speaker 1: married men. None of them seemed to be intimate, but
Speaker 1: she had been seen going to lunches, bowling alleys, and
Speaker 1: other recreational places with them during the daytime hours. She
Speaker 1: recently moved out of d C to Lion Park, Virginia,
Speaker 1: into a bungalow with two other women. Their house bordered
Speaker 1: Arlington National Cemetery to the west, just over the Potomac
Speaker 1: River from Washington. On April eleventh, nineteen thirty, which was
Speaker 1: a Friday, Mary left her job at the Navy Department
Speaker 1: at about four thirty and was last seen by a
Speaker 1: friend at approximately five forty five after attending an afternoon
Speaker 1: church service. Mary offered her friend a ride to her car,
Speaker 1: but her friend declined and decided to walk. Mary continued
Speaker 1: to walk the six blocks to her parking space by
Speaker 1: the White House Ellipse on her own, ostensibly to meet
Speaker 1: her roommate at a downtown department store by six o'clock.
Speaker 1: Mary was known to be punctual and she always kept
Speaker 1: her engagements, but she never showed up. Around noon on Saturday,
Speaker 1: April twelve, a few hours after the discovery of her
Speaker 1: abandoned and bloody vehicle, Mary Baker's body was discovered in
Speaker 1: a muddy culvert off of Cemetery Road, about a mile
Speaker 1: away from her car in Arlington National Cemetery. She had
Speaker 1: been beaten so badly that it almost knocked out her teeth.
Speaker 1: She was sexually assaulted, strangled, and shot three times with
Speaker 1: a thirty two caliber gun. Her death certificate spelled out
Speaker 1: her demise in brief, wretched terms, killed by pistol shots
Speaker 1: in throat and back. Jesus she saw it coming. Her
Speaker 1: new roommates were brought to the scene to identify her body,
Speaker 1: and one of them collapsed on the dirt road at
Speaker 1: the sight of her friend lying in the mud eight
Speaker 1: ft below next to a galvanized runoff pipe discarded like
Speaker 1: yesterday's garbage. The evening before, at around six o'clock, the
Speaker 1: time she was scheduled to meet her friend at the
Speaker 1: department store, three witnesses reported seeing a woman in a
Speaker 1: violent argument inside of a car with a heavy set
Speaker 1: man who was wearing a light gray slouch hat. One
Speaker 1: of the witnesses memorized the license plate. It was Mary
Speaker 1: Baker's car. All three witnesses immediately reported that fight to
Speaker 1: the police, but the car was gone by the time
Speaker 1: the police got to the scene. It wouldn't be discovered
Speaker 1: until the following morning, with the remnants of Mary's horrific
Speaker 1: struggle left on the passenger seat. During their initial investigation,
Speaker 1: the detectives recovered a palm print from the driver's window
Speaker 1: of Mary Baker's car, which was compared to every potential suspect.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of twists and turns in this case,
Speaker 1: which became known as the Mystery of one hundred one Clues.
Speaker 1: A four part series was written for True Detective Mysteries magazine.
Speaker 1: While the case was still ongoing and I ordered a copy.
Speaker 1: The case was filled with false confessions, intrigue, lost and
Speaker 1: found evidence, questionable associations, and subterfuge. Several of Mary's suitors
Speaker 1: were arrested and their alibies were substantiated by their own wives.
Speaker 1: Several other men were initially charged and then released when
Speaker 1: the evidence didn't bear fruit against them. One man fabricated
Speaker 1: a story out of whole cloth about his involvement just
Speaker 1: to get the newspaper publicity. His miniature golf course was
Speaker 1: a failure, and he figured that inserting himself into a
Speaker 1: sensational case like this one would bring in revenue. There
Speaker 1: was no shortage of suspects or complete nut jobs, but
Speaker 1: like the Carborn case, no one was ever charged with
Speaker 1: her murder, and unfortunately it remains unsolved. Where did Robert
Speaker 1: Janney fit into this horrible crime? He wasn't justice dates witness,
Speaker 1: as he boasted to his wife he was a suspect.
Speaker 1: Jenny had been arrested on May tenth, about a month
Speaker 1: after Mary Baker's murder, on the same street, corner by
Speaker 1: the Ellipse where she had last been seen in the
Speaker 1: fight with the heavy set man Robert. Jenny was arrested
Speaker 1: for harassing a woman. He jumped on the running board
Speaker 1: of her car before leaving back off and getting into
Speaker 1: his own car and chasing her down. The woman stopped
Speaker 1: and told a police officer, who commandeered a civilians vehicle
Speaker 1: and continued the pursuit. After Jenny through the streets of
Speaker 1: d C. They finally caught him at fourteenth in Pennsylvania Avenue.
Speaker 1: Robert Jenny told the officers that he recognized the lady
Speaker 1: as a former neighbor and he just wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to her. All of this happened around the same time
Speaker 1: that Robert Jenny had been nailed for trafficking heroin, so
Speaker 1: he might have been blitzed out of his mind. The
Speaker 1: police found a thirty two caliber semi automatic in his
Speaker 1: room during a search subsequent to his arrest, and Jenny
Speaker 1: told the investigators that he bought it from a man
Speaker 1: several weeks before. Official records showed that the gun had
Speaker 1: been transferred on March thirty one, about two weeks before
Speaker 1: Mary Baker's murder. The listic tests of that gun were
Speaker 1: completed on her case, which showed inconsistencies with the bullets
Speaker 1: from her body. There's no information about whether or not
Speaker 1: Jenny's gun was ever tested against the car Barn bullets,
Speaker 1: since it was the same caliber and model, or if
Speaker 1: it was ever released back to him from the evidence
Speaker 1: locker once he got out of that particular stin in jail.
Speaker 1: That was highly doubtful since he was a convicted felon.
Speaker 1: There's no further information on the disposition of that gun
Speaker 1: in Robert Jenny's room. The investigators also found a pawn
Speaker 1: ticket from New York City that was dated April eleven,
Speaker 1: the day Mary Baker went missing, so apparently that was
Speaker 1: Jenny's alibi. A comparison of the palm print on the
Speaker 1: vehicle's window wasn't a match to Jenny either, but it
Speaker 1: was later revealed that several people touched the car before
Speaker 1: the palm print was recovered, so nobody knew if it
Speaker 1: is even related to the crime or not. Going back
Speaker 1: to April eleven, the day of Mary Baker's abduction and
Speaker 1: subsequent murder, she was seen fighting with a man who
Speaker 1: several witnesses described as heavy set. I found a photograph
Speaker 1: of Robert Janny in a historical paper, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: fit that description at all. Jenny was really thin and gaunt,
Speaker 1: likely from years of drug abuse. He had an alibi
Speaker 1: of being in New York via that pawn shop ticket
Speaker 1: on April eleven, so the investigators only had the harassment
Speaker 1: and reckless driving charges to hold him. While he was
Speaker 1: in jail and still being questioned, Robert Jenny admitted to
Speaker 1: being arrested for a violation of the Man Act in
Speaker 1: nineteen eight. The Man Act makes transporting a woman or
Speaker 1: child for the purposes of prostitution a crime, so I'll
Speaker 1: just add that onto his long list of offenses. Jenny
Speaker 1: was eventually exonerated, and there's no historical documentation available to
Speaker 1: show exactly how he might have been a witness for
Speaker 1: the state or why they may have had a need
Speaker 1: for information he provided during the investigation. When he was
Speaker 1: running his mouth to his wife Lillian, he said the
Speaker 1: police would never solve it, so it made me wonder
Speaker 1: exactly how much he actually knew about the Mary Baker murder.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind that Robert Jenny was
Speaker 1: a feckless turd who had served multiple sentences for everything
Speaker 1: from drug trafficking to armed robbery to human trafficking. Detectives
Speaker 1: Volton and Rogers were really keen on what Lillian Janny
Speaker 1: had to provide, and during their talk in May of
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty, she added a detail that was a slap
Speaker 1: in the face. After his mention about the Mary Baker murder,
Speaker 1: Robert Jenny also said something about Chevy Chase and said
Speaker 1: that he, a woman, and three other men were mixed
Speaker 1: up on a job and had to shoot their way out.
Speaker 1: He got a hundred dollars out of it, just like
Speaker 1: Horace Davis. The detectives seem Lee had another hearsay confession
Speaker 1: about the car Barn murders to figure out Lillian Janny
Speaker 1: had now become a very valuable asset to the detectives,
Speaker 1: and they wanted to know more. They already found out
Speaker 1: that Jenny's work schedule didn't include Sunday nights or Mondays
Speaker 1: after they spoke with his manager at the Baltimore Salesbrook Company.
Speaker 1: The time card in Jenny's own handwriting showed that he
Speaker 1: didn't work on Sunday, January or on Monday, January twenty one,
Speaker 1: the night of my uncle's murder. Lillian made connections between
Speaker 1: Robert Jenny, William Clark, and Clark's friend James Weir. Clark's
Speaker 1: name had been dropped as a potential suspect a number
Speaker 1: of times by different people right after the murders, and
Speaker 1: he inserted himself into the investigation. With Robert Janny now
Speaker 1: in prison for armed robbery, Bolton and Rogers hatched a
Speaker 1: plan to see what else they could find out. The
Speaker 1: following Sunday, which was visitation day, Volton and Rogers had
Speaker 1: Lillian Annie meet with them again and they all drove
Speaker 1: to the Maryland State Penitentiary. They wanted Lilian to meet
Speaker 1: with her husband and give him some bait to see
Speaker 1: if he'd bite. Volton and Rogers gave Lilian a ruse
Speaker 1: and asked her to have a chat with Robert Jenny.
Speaker 1: She was to mention that two detectives had paid her
Speaker 1: a visit the night before and asked her a bunch
Speaker 1: of questions about Jenny being in Washington and something about
Speaker 1: a job near the district. She was told to tell
Speaker 1: Jenny that a man had been arrested. She couldn't remember
Speaker 1: his name, but that he chirped like a canary. She
Speaker 1: was also to tell him that they'd checked up on
Speaker 1: his time card at work and found out that he
Speaker 1: wasn't working On the night of the Carborn murders. Lillian
Speaker 1: was asked to carefully remember any names that Robert Jenny mentioned.
Speaker 1: While Lilian was in the visitation room, Volton and Rogers
Speaker 1: went to the prison warden and told him that they
Speaker 1: wanted copies of Annie letters coming into her out of
Speaker 1: the jail from Janny. They went out to the car
Speaker 1: to wait for Lillian. When she came back out, she
Speaker 1: said she followed their instructions and told Jenny the story.
Speaker 1: After she mentioned the job near Washington and that a
Speaker 1: man had been arrested and snitched, the blood drained out
Speaker 1: of Jenny's face and he turned sheet white. He said,
Speaker 1: was it James Moody. He told Lillian not to worry
Speaker 1: that the police wouldn't lock her up. Robert Jenny's reaction
Speaker 1: told me everything I needed to know. Janny was definitely
Speaker 1: one of my suspects. But there was no interrogation of
Speaker 1: Janny in the file, no interview notes, nothing regarding a
Speaker 1: meeting between the detectives and Jenny after this admission, But
Speaker 1: Boulton and Rogers still followed up on the name James Moody.
Speaker 1: They went back to the DC identification Bureau and did
Speaker 1: a search for James Moody, extending it to James Mooney
Speaker 1: just in case they misheard Lillian's pronunciation. There was nothing
Speaker 1: to be found for either name. After their Sunday visit
Speaker 1: with Lilian at the prison, the warden made good and
Speaker 1: the detectives started to receive the jail letters to and
Speaker 1: from Janny as requested. Jenny was writing to a lot
Speaker 1: of people, including Lillian. On February seven, nineteen thirty six,
Speaker 1: he wrote, Dear Lil, I will have some news for
Speaker 1: you in a few days regarding matter you spoke to
Speaker 1: me of. Don't worry. I'll do all I can. You
Speaker 1: didn't tell me where to write. I waited. Should I
Speaker 1: not hear from this, I'll know you didn't get it.
Speaker 1: So we'll write to fifteen o one Tuesday, but won't
Speaker 1: put address on it. Please write and send some stamps
Speaker 1: right away. Don't worry. Everything will be okay for you,
Speaker 1: even if it costs me as much as it did before.
Speaker 1: As ever, Bob p s let me know where to
Speaker 1: write important as I'm investigating that matter. Robert Jenny was
Speaker 1: desperate to find out why detectives had paid his wife
Speaker 1: a visit and it sounded like he was trying to
Speaker 1: get information about it from inside the prison. The inmates
Speaker 1: were only allowed to visits a month, every other Sunday,
Speaker 1: and there were no phones back then, so letters were
Speaker 1: their only means of communication with the outside world. Who
Speaker 1: could Robert Jenny possibly be talking to inside the Maryland
Speaker 1: State Penitentiary about investigators questioning a job near Washington? William
Speaker 1: Franklin Clark, Yeah, he was in the same prison at
Speaker 1: the same time. Hey, old pal, what are you in
Speaker 1: for that story? It's a whopper. If you have information
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