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Speaker 1: seven with Amy Wells and Rhett Brian. I'm Mike Keith
Speaker 1: glad to have you with us. Following the epic trip
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville the thirty seven to nineteen Titans went only
Speaker 1: part of the story. We got there and we got back.
Speaker 1: It's the real key and lived to tell about it,
Speaker 1: lived to tell about it. The airline problems of the
Speaker 1: weekend making a trip to Jacksonville, which is normally I
Speaker 1: would argue the easiest trip of the year into planes, trains,
Speaker 1: and automobiles. Yeah, because logistically shorter. There is no other
Speaker 1: trip under than just going to Indianapolis. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one of the ones you just kind of check
Speaker 1: off the list. Yeah, it's easy. You know exactly where
Speaker 1: you're going. I mean we've been there a good jillion times.
Speaker 1: You know the stadium, you know everything. Well, it's not
Speaker 1: a big town. It's not a big town. It's easy
Speaker 1: to get up, it's easy to get back. It's an
Speaker 1: hour long flight. You see Jacksonville and it's like going
Speaker 1: down the road. That's an easy one. Not this time,
Speaker 1: boys and girls, not this time. We're almost Florida residents,
Speaker 1: all of us, all of us. Yeah, but we're home, ye,
Speaker 1: and we're back. And the Titans are three and two
Speaker 1: and two and oh in the AFC South, in the
Speaker 1: AFC South, which is huge, and time for the OTP
Speaker 1: four D, which means four downs. Amy Wells, you're going first.
Speaker 1: Your play that turned the game in the Titans eighteen
Speaker 1: point when in Jaytown. You know it's got to be
Speaker 1: that gold line stand. I mean, not only did it
Speaker 1: keep the Jags from bringing the score even closer, making
Speaker 1: it thirty one to twenty six, that wouldn't have been great,
Speaker 1: but go lead the momentum ship in that moment, seeing
Speaker 1: so many different guys on the defense get involved in
Speaker 1: that whole stand, all four downs. You saw different guys
Speaker 1: making an impact in tier. Tart even said after the
Speaker 1: game that was a huge moment for us. You could
Speaker 1: feel that energy come back to the sidelines, and that's
Speaker 1: really what they wanted to do. They wanted to help
Speaker 1: the whole team build that momentum. I mean, you just saw,
Speaker 1: you saw so much consistency, You saw what you want
Speaker 1: to see out of a defense, and that was It
Speaker 1: was a magical moment. I love a good goal line
Speaker 1: stand anyway. Who doesn't love a good goal line stand?
Speaker 1: For me? Eleven h seven left in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill has hit. As he is throwing the ball,
Speaker 1: ruled in complete pass, waiting, waiting, waiting, urban Meyer throws
Speaker 1: a challenge flag. To your point, you said, the only
Speaker 1: thing coach Mackie can really challenge is whether it's an
Speaker 1: empty hand or not. So he throws the challenge flag again.
Speaker 1: It's confirmed incomplete pass. Right there. He's down to two
Speaker 1: timeouts and only one challenge with eleven h seven left
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. So the bulk of the second half,
Speaker 1: you're running light right there. I think that is one
Speaker 1: of the places where it turned on a dime. The
Speaker 1: Kevin Byard fumble return for a touchdown sixty seconds into
Speaker 1: the game is to me, the most important play because
Speaker 1: it gave the Titans a lead early. Something good happened
Speaker 1: for the Titans early, which they needed after a long week.
Speaker 1: And the other part two is for the defense. A
Speaker 1: takeaway and a score was a big lift. So that
Speaker 1: goes without say I'm going to go in a different
Speaker 1: direction just because i want to bring it up. And
Speaker 1: that is urban Meyer's decision with two twenty seven left
Speaker 1: in the first half, trailing twenty one to thirteen, to
Speaker 1: try a fifty three yard field goal with Matthew Wright.
Speaker 1: He doesn't really know this kicker Josh Lambo. His regular
Speaker 1: guy is having problems, so he was inactive. This is
Speaker 1: a young guy. You try the three yard or you
Speaker 1: hit the middle of the crossbar short. No good. Titans
Speaker 1: get the ball at the forty three yard line. They're
Speaker 1: able to consume the rest of the half and they
Speaker 1: go down and get three points of their own. I
Speaker 1: think if urban Meyer punts the Titans deep, and he's
Speaker 1: got a great punter in Logan Cook, then the Titans
Speaker 1: probably run three plays. You got a chance to get
Speaker 1: the ball back at midfield with a minute to go,
Speaker 1: potentially and get another crack at it. Instead, you lose
Speaker 1: three points to the Titans. So you're down eleven at
Speaker 1: the half. You lose momentum going into the locker room.
Speaker 1: The Titans have momentum. They come out to score at
Speaker 1: the start of the third quarter, if it's still twenty
Speaker 1: one to thirteen, or if you've gotten the ball back
Speaker 1: and it's twenty one sixteen, then you feel really good
Speaker 1: about yourself and the start of the second half is different.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a mistake on urban Meyer's part
Speaker 1: to not punt the football or go for it. If
Speaker 1: you go for it and you don't make it, then
Speaker 1: the Titans are at the thirty five instead of the
Speaker 1: forty three. That's eight yards difference. I think punning, if
Speaker 1: you're in that situation is probably the best option, because
Speaker 1: with the NFL, it's about keep playing the game, don't
Speaker 1: ever get ahead of your skis and make a move
Speaker 1: that you don't necessarily have to make. When you're in
Speaker 1: a game like that with a team the team urban
Speaker 1: Meyer has right now, a year from now, two years
Speaker 1: from now, maybe it's different. But I thought the grown
Speaker 1: up football team was able to take the advantage right
Speaker 1: there because the young football team opened the door for
Speaker 1: the Titans, And in the end, I thought the level
Speaker 1: of execution at those points the Titans age and experience
Speaker 1: showed more than the Jaguars, and I don't think Meyer
Speaker 1: helped him with that decision. At that moment thoughts, No,
Speaker 1: I would agree with all three of our places of
Speaker 1: opinion about where you know, the Titans turned the corner
Speaker 1: in this thing. But that was a huge one there,
Speaker 1: absolutely there was. Look, urban Meyer showed he has not
Speaker 1: coached at this level in two or three opportunities yesterday,
Speaker 1: and we've outlined two of them. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a look at second down. Your stat that tells the story,
Speaker 1: Rhett Bryan, Derek Henry eighteen carries for ninety nine yards
Speaker 1: and two touchdowns in the second half, eleven for thirty
Speaker 1: one on a score in the first and they fed him,
Speaker 1: especially on that drive. It was a seven carries for
Speaker 1: how many yards forty two forty two yards, but eighteen
Speaker 1: for ninety nine to two scores in the second half
Speaker 1: twenty two. Train just gets rolling and you could just
Speaker 1: see it, I mean, just dragging dudes and busting through
Speaker 1: holes and next thing and oh he's got one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty on the ground and three scores. That's the
Speaker 1: one for me. I think it's turnovers and it's because
Speaker 1: it illustrates a bigger picture. They were able to get
Speaker 1: the fumble recovery and an interception thanks Kevin Byard, and
Speaker 1: I think this illustrates what the Titans were able to
Speaker 1: do all day, which was make big plays without surrendering
Speaker 1: big plays. Was everything perfect, absolutely not. Are there some
Speaker 1: plays that the Titans would like to have back shore,
Speaker 1: but they were able to turn that corner of making
Speaker 1: big plays and doing things to generate some positive momentum
Speaker 1: without surrendering some big plays to give the other team life,
Speaker 1: which is a big thing. It was a point of
Speaker 1: emphasis last week, and the Titans really showed up on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville finished with four hundred and fifty four yards of
Speaker 1: total offense. Sixty nine of that was garbage in the
Speaker 1: final one fifty four. So take out the sixty nine
Speaker 1: yards at the end, and I don't think you're worried
Speaker 1: about the past defense. The Titans run defense was not fabulous.
Speaker 1: They gave up one hundred ninety eight yards rushing on
Speaker 1: thirty one care that's way too much. That's six four
Speaker 1: a carry. So with that being the case, the stat
Speaker 1: that tells the story for me was Jacksonville was three
Speaker 1: of ten on third downs and one of three on
Speaker 1: fourth downs, so in essence, they were four of thirteen
Speaker 1: on conversions If the Titans don't have that number three
Speaker 1: of ten on third downs, one of three on fourth downs,
Speaker 1: meaning four of thirteen on conversion plays, they lose this
Speaker 1: ball game because of the rushing numbers. On the other side,
Speaker 1: that's a much better job by the Titans defense getting
Speaker 1: off the field on third down, something they have done
Speaker 1: well for the majority of this season. If that continues
Speaker 1: to be a trend, that will help them win games defensively,
Speaker 1: because for all of Jacksonville's numbers, they scored only nineteen
Speaker 1: points and the reason they did is they couldn't convert
Speaker 1: in those situations. All right, third down? What area must
Speaker 1: the Titans get fixed? Amy Wells, my key? That's run defense.
Speaker 1: I mean you said it earlier. They were allowed one
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety eight total rushing yards. James Robinson alone
Speaker 1: had one hundred and forty nine, including a fifty eight
Speaker 1: yard just sprint down the field. He's averaged eight point
Speaker 1: three yards per carry. That's too many yards per carry
Speaker 1: for me, and I think for anybody. I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be something that's so important for this Titans
Speaker 1: team going forward facing other teams with really strong running game.
Speaker 1: That's a good point take out the fifty eight yard run,
Speaker 1: thirty carries for one forty that's still four seven a
Speaker 1: pop so much. What that tells you is that wasn't
Speaker 1: just one run. They ran effectively all day. Amy. That's
Speaker 1: a great point, right for me. I'm kind of playing
Speaker 1: off of Amy's vibe there with the run game, but
Speaker 1: it's giving up explosive plays. We talked about it last week,
Speaker 1: We talked about it Sunday, going in through all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and they still had four explosive two of them fifty
Speaker 1: eight yarders like the one you mentioned James Robinson, a
Speaker 1: fifty eight yard run, a fifty eight yard pass to
Speaker 1: Leviska Chenault. Well, it should have been a ten yard game,
Speaker 1: fifteen yard game, right, But you live to tell about
Speaker 1: it because none of those immediately had scores attached to them,
Speaker 1: although they one of them resulted in a score in
Speaker 1: this thing. But to your point, Amy, you're going against
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's offense, Kansas City Chiefs offense six days apart.
Speaker 1: Explosive plays with the names that I have in my
Speaker 1: head of Dawson Knox and Stefan Diggs and Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: and all those guys throughout that thing really have to
Speaker 1: tighten that down some more in this thing. They got
Speaker 1: better at it, I thought on Sunday, but they have
Speaker 1: got to clamp down on it more. With two high
Speaker 1: powered AFC teams back to back, coming on, tighten up
Speaker 1: if you will tighten up? Indeed, Amy Wells, Okay, so
Speaker 1: you've taken both of mine. Thanks a lot. Wow. I
Speaker 1: have nothing. So I'm gonna go I have nothing. I've
Speaker 1: got nothing. I'm gonna go to another area that I
Speaker 1: actually did have circle to be totally serious, and that's
Speaker 1: the punting game. Johnny Townsend has not done the things
Speaker 1: in the punting game the Titans need done on a
Speaker 1: regular basis. You need timely punting, but you need great
Speaker 1: situational punting too. Don't need to be kicking the ball
Speaker 1: into the end zone. You got them down one time
Speaker 1: at the eighteen yard line on a fair catch. That
Speaker 1: needs to really be inside the ten. If you're doing
Speaker 1: what you're doing well. If the Titans defense is doing
Speaker 1: its thing and that's not allowing the explosive place, what
Speaker 1: they've shown is it's hard to drive the ball on
Speaker 1: this defense. If they're not giving up the big place,
Speaker 1: driving the ball against this defense is hard. An extra
Speaker 1: ten fifteen yards in terms of a good punt puts
Speaker 1: you in a position that you make it even harder.
Speaker 1: It's a little thing. It's not as big as yours.
Speaker 1: It's not as impressive as yours. You both took mine.
Speaker 1: So I'm going with the punning game. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to seem bitter at all, but I probably do. Well,
Speaker 1: it's the whole travel thing. I'm a little Jacksonville took
Speaker 1: a lot out of mine, as it did the rest
Speaker 1: of it took a lot out of But in all seriousness,
Speaker 1: Titans got a punt it better, something we have grown
Speaker 1: accustomed to and quite frankly take for granted. Where the
Speaker 1: Titans have got to be better. Now, I'll say one
Speaker 1: thing to follow up what you're talking about. I thought
Speaker 1: the Titans kick coverage units did a nice job against
Speaker 1: Jacksonville because we warned everyone about Jamal Agnew and the
Speaker 1: wheels that that guy's got, and it's evidenced by the
Speaker 1: kick coverage. Because I think the furthest down the field
Speaker 1: their best starting position out of all their positions, with
Speaker 1: I think their own thirty three yard line, Joe Jones
Speaker 1: three tackles on special teams. You think there's a chance
Speaker 1: that he's available for action on Monday Night football again.
Speaker 1: I would almost bet my life on it. Yep, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go that far, but yes, extreme again, Jacksonville took
Speaker 1: something out of me that's exactly right, all right, fourth
Speaker 1: down one thing that you noticed and wanted to share
Speaker 1: with the group. Rhett Brian, you get to go first.
Speaker 1: I think it's that Jacksonville. I've always taking the scenes
Speaker 1: in the setting in this thing. Jacksonville's fans wan't so
Speaker 1: bad to win, and not just beat the Titans, but
Speaker 1: just to be prominent again. You know, three years ago,
Speaker 1: whatever it was, they made it almost the AFC Championship game,
Speaker 1: and that whole roster's turned over, basically. But to hear
Speaker 1: people as you pass by, as you're coming into or
Speaker 1: leaving the stadium, even the people who worked there, it's
Speaker 1: like maybe one day I had the telecom guy who
Speaker 1: takes care of telecommunications there. He rode the elevator down
Speaker 1: with me at one point during the after the game goes.
Speaker 1: I've been around since two thousand and four, and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe one of these days they know that
Speaker 1: they have a valuable franchise. Once every twenty years down
Speaker 1: the pike kind of quarterback, and they want to make
Speaker 1: sure that he's upright healthy, and they continue to put
Speaker 1: weapons around them. They know they've got something there. They're
Speaker 1: just they're anxious. They want to It's like where the
Speaker 1: Titans have come from from twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: to multiple appearances in the playoffs, five straight winning seasons.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know what it's like to be on
Speaker 1: that side of things, and it's like, gosh, the grass
Speaker 1: shore is greener, it is, man, the Jags want to
Speaker 1: be us so bad. Sorry, sorry, guys, Sorry, but not sorry.
Speaker 1: I won't give it up. Mine is Kevin Byard. I
Speaker 1: made the fatal flaw of correcting Jim Wyatt, or attempting
Speaker 1: to correct Jim Watt. You never do that. Don't never
Speaker 1: do don't do that. You don't correct Mike Keith. You
Speaker 1: don't correct Jim Wyatt. They know right exactly. So I
Speaker 1: was sitting with Jim reading his articles while I was
Speaker 1: next to him, which I'm sure he appreciates, and I
Speaker 1: looked at him at one point and I said, Kevin
Speaker 1: Byared got his first NFL touchdown against Jacksonville. I said,
Speaker 1: that can't be right. Even Byers had a touchdown before,
Speaker 1: and he was like, no, no, he hasn't. I was
Speaker 1: so impressed by Kevin Byrd the way he played, and
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that he was finally able to have
Speaker 1: success and get those big, those big moments, those big plays,
Speaker 1: because Kevin Byard has been grinding these last couple seasons
Speaker 1: and he's kind of been getting a bad rap for it,
Speaker 1: and he's not getting those big explosive plays that we,
Speaker 1: I guess have expected to see out of him. I
Speaker 1: was floored that he hadn't had a touchdown before. I
Speaker 1: thought for sure he had. It was so great to
Speaker 1: see Kevin Byard doing Kevin Byrd things and getting the
Speaker 1: success that we all expect from him. He has a
Speaker 1: touchdown pass, that's right, yeah, but that's not he had
Speaker 1: never been in the end zone with the ball. My
Speaker 1: mind was blown. I made Jim Wyatt correct his work
Speaker 1: and I should not have done it. It was an
Speaker 1: outstanding return on his part, not an easy run. It's
Speaker 1: really what the Titans needed Christian Fulton to do last week.
Speaker 1: When you when you get a ball on the other
Speaker 1: side of the fifty, on the other team's half of
Speaker 1: the field, you got a score. Ye, I mean, you've
Speaker 1: got to score, and those dbs are athletic enough they
Speaker 1: can do that. The Titans ended up with three after
Speaker 1: the Christian Fulton pick at New York. He's got a
Speaker 1: score there, and that's what the coaching staff, That's what
Speaker 1: Vrabel said when we were watching it on the Mike
Speaker 1: Vrabels Show last week. Bayer did what you needed to do.
Speaker 1: He finished it, and your chances of winning a game
Speaker 1: with a defensive touchdown go up astronomically. But your point
Speaker 1: is well made, Amy because when Kevin Byard starts to
Speaker 1: run into football's, good things happen. Even the pick at
Speaker 1: the end of the game, had a pick in the
Speaker 1: Arizona game. There are certain dudes, you know, there's certain
Speaker 1: guys Trayvon Diggs right now for Dallas Isla. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: started to run into footballs. That's a good thing. And
Speaker 1: so hopefully Amani Hooker is close to being back. I
Speaker 1: think if we see Bayard and Hooker together for the
Speaker 1: rest of the season, I think there can be a
Speaker 1: lot of plays made by that duo and that could
Speaker 1: be a big thing. What stood out to me is
Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville has the potential to have a good team.
Speaker 1: That stood out to me because I think Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: is the real thing. I'm a big fan of James Robinson.
Speaker 1: They're running back. Can't believe they didn't try to get
Speaker 1: the ball to Laviska Chenault more because he's a dangerous player.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line isn't bad. They have several good tight
Speaker 1: ends on defense. They have a couple of good young
Speaker 1: pass rushers. You started to seek Levan Jason emerging this too,
Speaker 1: which is a problem. He started to come on and
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's a good pass rusher. They've got some guys
Speaker 1: in the secondary who I think are gonna be good players.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be a pain. The question becomes how quickly
Speaker 1: do they become a pain and what goes on with
Speaker 1: this situation in Jacksonville to either speed up the process
Speaker 1: or slow down the process. And I think that's something
Speaker 1: we're going to keep an eye on from a Titans perspective,
Speaker 1: is what's going to go on in Jacksonville, because when
Speaker 1: we see them on December twelfth, there's a chance they're
Speaker 1: a lot better. Here's the thing, in December, we will
Speaker 1: guaranteed see a different Jags team than what we saw
Speaker 1: this past weekend. The question is are they one hundred
Speaker 1: percent better or one hundred percent worse. They're in a
Speaker 1: situation where they're going to hit a crossroads. I think
Speaker 1: you're right. I think they're at the crossroads because of
Speaker 1: the on the field with them being a new team
Speaker 1: and a new staff and having lost twenty in a row,
Speaker 1: and then the other stuff that's going on that I
Speaker 1: think we can see from the outside. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: die down immediately, which has to be distracting Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Is the tipping point with whatever happens down the road
Speaker 1: if it starts to be a regression of him because
Speaker 1: he is not protected well or what it's a quarterback league.
Speaker 1: That's the tipping point with whatever happens with him down
Speaker 1: the road. All right, That does it for this edition
Speaker 1: of the OTP four D presented by Farm Bureau Health
Speaker 1: Plans for Amy Wells and Rhett Brian. I might Keith
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