1 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: And welcome in lake. 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: It is live. 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: It is Thursday night, September fifteenth, the ear of our 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: over twenty twenty two. Imagine being cooped up voluntarily in 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: a studio when instead you could be here in the 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: shadow of Jorden Hair Stadium, a lot of our people 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 3: behind us Playsman Park in Auburn is where we are tonight. 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for you guys being tuned it. 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: We're jam packed and we've got a lot to talk 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: about because we've got a big week three on deck. 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: We'll be here in Jorden Hair Stadium as you can 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: see behind me this Saturday for Penn State versus Auburn. 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: But we got a lot of potential upsets on the radar. 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: Then last week to be frank and acting ignorantly, we 15 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: looked over. So no more. We will not be taken 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: off guard by that again. Tonight, I'm gonna give you 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: several games, give you kind of a feel on those. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: We're not gonna do full breakdowns, but I'll have some 19 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: feel for you. Also, a lot of people are thrown 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: around that phrase, and it's a phrase that you and 21 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: I have spoken a lot about. 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: It's a phrase I don't. 23 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 2: Really believe it except for the most extreme and dire circumstances, 24 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: and it is must win. And already I'm being told 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: that somebody, in fact multiple somebodies were in must win 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: situations this weekend. We will discuss. We got the mail 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: bag open tonight ton of Q and A. They're watching 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: us in Dadeville, Alabama. They're obviously watching us in Auburn, Alabama. 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: Saint Paul, Minnesota is tuned in, as is Asheville, North Carolina. 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: Ay. 31 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: Remember, as is the case every game day Saturday, and 32 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: really earlier on Friday night lines. It's imperative that you're 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: following on the socials, especially Instagram at late kick, Josh, 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: make sure you're tuned in. I'll have a lot of access. 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: I'll have a lot of stuff that happens over here 36 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: this Saturday that you would not otherwise be able to see. 37 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys being with us. Let's dive into the 38 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: show tonight. Upsets were the name of the game last week. 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: We of course, were out in Austin, Texas. We almost 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: saw one. I didn't really tell you guys this, but 41 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: sort of midway through the fourth quarter, when the security 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: powers that be in the Royal Stadium started to fix 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: your Texas man actually win this. There was this army 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: of security, temporary staffing that came out of nowhere. They 45 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: were ready for a field storming out there. They were 46 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: ready to try and prevent it. I don't like their odds. 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: Had Texas held on to win. They didn't. But in 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: Austin we almost saw one. Elsewhere, we just flat out 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: did see them. I was in the Austin airport and 50 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: I watched A and M fall. We saw a bunch 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: of other winds. So what I want to do is 52 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: I want to go down the list of games and 53 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 2: I want to make sure that we've at least gone 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: on the record with how we feel about this. Oklahoma, 55 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: for example, plays Nebraska this Saturday, and that one's in Lincoln. 56 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: At one point, maybe three weeks ago, I thought we 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: would be there over being an Auburn because well, we've 58 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: never been to Lincoln. For one, and number two, I 59 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: didn't exactly foretell that they were going to fall in 60 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: another country to Northwestern. 61 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: They have. 62 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: And then to add on insult to injury, they've lost 63 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: to Georgia Southern. So we're not there, but we'll talk 64 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: about it. Oklahoma is an eleven point favorite. A lot 65 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: of you may think twenty one, twenty four, twenty eight. No, 66 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: that's not the points spread on this. Oklahoma has not 67 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: left home yet and so they're going to Lincoln. Here's 68 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: the you've seen it as well as I have in 69 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: the past. Number One, if a guy gets hurt and 70 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: you think it's gonna detrimentally impact the team, the exact 71 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 2: opposite happens, because there's this galvanizing impact in the locker room. 72 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: And then you've also seen as well as I have, 73 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: when a coach gets fired and it's like this giant 74 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: release just and then everyone plays, for some reason, at 75 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: a higher level than they had been. Well, that's a 76 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: threat here, and I'm going to acknowledge that. That's why 77 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying there's an out, maybe an outside possibility of upset. 78 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: But the thing I think about with Nebraska is what 79 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: were the problems under Scott Frost. We talked about it 80 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: the other night. Couldn't, for the life of me tell 81 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: you what their identity is. They had no discernible improvement defensively, 82 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: just a lot of that football stuff, you know, that 83 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: pesky football stuff. Well, here's the question. If you're going 84 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: to sell me that Oklahoma's going to fall here. You 85 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: got to sell me that that stuff got corrected. That 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Mickey Joseph, God bless him, could correct that in six days. 87 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if they can. 88 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: Like I watch Georgia Southern just march up and down 89 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: the field, had over six hundred yards total offense in Lincoln. 90 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: That doesn't get solved overnight. 91 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: You could get an inspired effort from Nebraska and still 92 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: have them falled thirty eight to twenty. So I'm gonna 93 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: put about a three on this one on the upset 94 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: scale one to ten. 95 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma. 96 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: Actually, conversely, I think Oklahoma is going to use this 97 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: game to sort of send a little message. You know, 98 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 2: they've played inferior competition at home so far. It's time 99 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: for Brenton Vintibles to go out on the road the 100 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: first time and they assert themselves in the Big twelve. 101 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: Here's one that a lot of you thought we were 102 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: going to be present for and it was just never 103 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: in the cards, and that's Georgia at South Carolina. Reason 104 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: number one. According to stats and info, the line on 105 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: this thing's twenty five. Depending on which book you look 106 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: at right now, it. 107 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: Could be bad. 108 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: Okay, this is also an ingredient for a shot the 109 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: world type upset. The problem is there's a lot of 110 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: not invincibility. I don't want to use that word at all. 111 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to talk about Georgia a little bit 112 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: later on in this vein, But they are a lot 113 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: lot of elements about that Georgia team that travel Bamma 114 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: looked vulnerable last week. I do not suspect that Georgia 115 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: will look nearly as vulnerable because I just think they 116 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: have their affairs in order along the lines of scrimmage. 117 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: And can we just be frank for a second. And 118 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: I know we got a lot of folks walking in 119 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: and around Columbia, so I'm gonna talk low for a second. 120 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: You guys know you have problems on the lines of scrimmage. 121 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: You know that. 122 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: You know that, and I know that. So we're not 123 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: breaking any news here tonight. At what point, at what 124 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: number in the turnover column do you have to be plus? 125 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: At what sort of implosion offensively for Georgia do you 126 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: have to rise to for me to see this upset happening. 127 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to cover now. This is a 128 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: segment about upsets. How are you going to pull the 129 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: upset off? I can't find it because it was really 130 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: not even as close as the score indicated last week 131 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: when you went to Fayeble. 132 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: I know all about Williams. Brice Stadium. 133 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: No one sings the praises of South Carolina's home environment 134 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: more than me. 135 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: I know what you got there. 136 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: I also know that you got a team coming in 137 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: there that, over the span of four quarters can kind 138 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: of take a crowd out of it. They're doing that 139 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: whole noon kickoff thing with you, guys that I love 140 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: but everyone else hates. I'm gonna put this at the two. 141 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: It's really hard, as much as I let the program, 142 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: really hard for me to see it happening. Here's one 143 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: we'll go a little bit higher on the upset meter. 144 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: On Cal is playing Notre Dame. The line is eleven. 145 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: Believe it or not, Notre Dame's favored to win a 146 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: football game. Noteworthy that is because this would be Marcus 147 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: Freeman's first win as Notre Dame head coach. Freeman's win 148 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: list right here, here's going to be the talking point 149 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: for those of you interested in such things. People are 150 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: going to tell you Cal Justin Wilcox's team out there. 151 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: They're traveling the South Bend and they really get it 152 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: done through the air offensively. And the one thing that 153 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: I can take solace in this is them talking not 154 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: me more casual approach, if you know what I mean. 155 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: The one thing that I can take solace in is 156 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: Notre Dame can defend the past. 157 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: Pass defense really a strong set for Notre Dame. That's true. 158 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: Here's a weakness scoring. 159 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: Notre Dame can't score a really bad at scoring points. 160 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: And so when you limit possessions, when you limit just 161 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: the amount of dent you can put in the scoreboard, 162 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: there is so much variability and potentially so much volatility 163 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: and outcome. What I mean by that is, you know, 164 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: if cal has a little success through the air, but 165 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: you're gonna hang thirty eight, it doesn't matter. I was 166 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: thirty eight to twenty four and thirty eight to thirteen. 167 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: It's just a win for you no matter what. But 168 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: if you're only gonna hang seventeen for me, then guess 169 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: what the difference is in twenty to seventeen seventeen fourteen. 170 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: It's different between a win and a loss. I'm not 171 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: gonna say must win because it's not a must win. 172 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: They really need this one in South Bend. I mean, 173 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: they really need to stretch the margin, just need to 174 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: get the bad taste out of their mouth. I'm gonna 175 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: put this as a five only because I haven't been 176 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: given any kind of confidence in Notre Dame being able to. 177 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Get margin on a team. 178 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: I mean, they got bullied by Marshall last week. And 179 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: I know a lot of you guys did not watch 180 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: that game. 181 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: I did. 182 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: I went back and watched it for you, and I'm 183 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: telling you they got bullied. They got picked up, put 184 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: on skates and pushed around. And Tim O'Malley, who writes 185 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: for Irish Illustrated, kind of put it very succinctly. He said, 186 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: if they would have played this game further another one 187 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: or two quarters, it wouldn't have been a situation where 188 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: Notre Dame caught up. It would have been a situation 189 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: where Marshall stretched the lead even further. He's right, That's 190 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: exactly what kind of game was unfolding up there. So 191 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: this is a five. I could absolutely see that upset 192 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: happening UTSA at Texas is supremely fascinating. We were just 193 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: out there last week and of course, you've got the 194 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: quarterback conundrum at this point. If you will with Texas, 195 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: quin Ewers is out until probably the Oklahoma game. Hudson 196 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: cards saying all the right things out there. I talked 197 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: to some people around the program today who remain what 198 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: would I call it, I guess cautiously skeptical. There's not optimism, 199 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: cautiously skeptical that he can play. If he doesn't Charles 200 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: Wright win your trivia contest on Friday night. 201 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: Charles Wright is. 202 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: The starting quarter if it drops to that level. On 203 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: the depth trot for Texas utsa really really good on 204 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: third down so far. That is actually how they are 205 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 2: almost beating Houston. It's how they did beat Army, really 206 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: really good on third down. Here's what I'm thinking about. 207 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: While all the attention is going to be on the 208 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: Texas quarterback situation, it is imperative that defense steps up 209 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 2: and wins a game for Texas because you got to 210 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: buy time. Eventually, you're gonna get your quarterback room right, 211 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: and they will be. By what I watched last week, 212 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: a Big twelve championship caliber team doesn't matter if you've 213 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: got multiple losses already on the resume. Now this is 214 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: not a conference game. Very much an end state game, 215 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: but it's not a conference game. My point is, if 216 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: you've got to win the thing nineteen to ten and 217 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: have defense make multiple stops, then win the thing nineteen 218 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: to ten and have defense make multiple stops. They put 219 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: Bama in a blender last week, and so if they 220 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: were able to do that against Alabama, I'm gonna say 221 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: they should be able to do it against UTSA. And 222 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: they've known, they've known since the on set on Saturday 223 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: last week. That's probably how they're gonna have to win 224 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: this game upcoming. I'm gonna put this at a five 225 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: and a half. Let's go five and a half only 226 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: because of the quarterback situation at Utsay's coming to their prime. 227 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: You're talking about a super Bowl there, So five and 228 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: a half. 229 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: I think Texas defensively can win the game. Though. 230 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: The last one that I'm looking at, and this one 231 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: circling it right now for my own personal amusement, because 232 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: it could very much have every given Saturday to our 233 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: implications riding on it. 234 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: Tou Lane is at Kansas State. Now. 235 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: They don't really care about that in Manhattan, Kansas, and 236 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you why because they play Oklahoma next week, 237 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: they go to Norman next week they open conference play, 238 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: and everyone's attention, aside from Oklahoma in the Big Twelve, 239 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: which we're gonna talk about in a second, is who 240 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: else Hoop Stelts amongst us could win this conference? 241 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: Well, k State is everyone's sleeper. 242 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: What happens if they drop a game before they go 243 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: into Oklahoma? That brings us to this Saturday tou Lane's 244 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: not a four or five touchdown dog. In this tou 245 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: lane is a fourteen point dog. Crazier things have happened 246 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 2: in the past six days, friends, and so I'm putting 247 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: this one at a six. Now, I will say this, 248 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: as good as TWU lanes looked in the stat sheet, 249 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: they certainly have not had that runt and defense flex 250 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: like it's about to against Douce Vaughn, which gives me 251 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: a little comfort. 252 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: You know. 253 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: Let me back the upset meter down to about a 254 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: four because as I'm talking it out with you, as 255 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: is often the case, my mind is changing. There's a 256 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: lot more consistency to be had if I played this 257 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: thing out one hundred times in having the run game 258 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: Kansas State does. And I also don't think that we're 259 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: so far into this era of people believing in Kansas 260 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: State again that anything about the program has gotten complacent 261 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: or anything has developed a look ahead nature to it. 262 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 2: And so I actually do think the case State's going 263 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: to be able to take care of business. What I 264 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: don't want you to do is I don't want you 265 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: to turn this on and see them when thirty one 266 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: to twenty three and say, oh wow, well that's disappointing. 267 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: It's not disappointing. Two lanes. Pretty good team. The line's team. 268 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: Know your point spreads, kids, It's what they taught me 269 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: in middle school. Know your point spreads because that provides 270 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: the context and the backdrop, the proper one for what 271 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: you're seeing on Saturdays. I'm gonna put this at a four. 272 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep an eye on it. The highest level 273 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: we rose to here was a five with Notre Dame, 274 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: and I'm really keeping an eye on that one. But look, 275 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: we didn't go anywhere past like a two last week 276 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: on the upset meter, and I was made a fool 277 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: of I didn't enjoy it. I had multiple apologies to issue, 278 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: and I'm not apologizing this Sunday night, regardless of what happened. 279 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: So take that for what it is. 280 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: Our friends at Academy Sports and Outdoors came through for 281 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: us from the beginning, and then we recently entered into 282 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: an exclusive partnership with them. 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And 313 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: if you can't get there in person, Academy dot com 314 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: has your hook up for all of your outdoor sporting 315 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: goods needs and if you're like us, just your needs 316 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: in life. 317 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: We thank them so much. Okay, a lot of Q 318 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: and A today. 319 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: I have had so many of you ask me where 320 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: did the lay Kick Extra podcast go? I didn't think 321 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: you'd notice full disclosure. I thought once we got to 322 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: the season, three shows per week would be enough. Apparently not, 323 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: so I'm bringing it back in due time. As for tonight, 324 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: I thought I would mix in a little element of 325 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: the Lakik Extra podcast, and that's basically you get to 326 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: run the show. So I put it out earlier today 327 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: on Twitter. Let's dive into the mail bag. The first 328 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: question was about the Nebraska job opening and who we're 329 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: looking at as candidates. And I'll talk about some candidates 330 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: in a second, but look, we're still really early in 331 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: the process. I will tell you this. I talked to 332 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: a coach this week who I know is on the 333 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: wish list for Nebraska. Now, of course he himself has 334 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: not spoken to them because he himself is co coaching 335 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: for a major program right now, but his representation via 336 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: back channels is it's always a whisper campaign when you 337 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: get to the early stages of the coaching search. But 338 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: my point is, there are guys involved in this coaching search. 339 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: There are names on Nebraska's radar. I know because I'm 340 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: talking about one. You never guess in a million years. 341 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: That's the way it always goes. So just understand any 342 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: list like the one I had Jesse, give me right here. 343 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: Any list that you have is being put out there 344 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: for a very intentional purpose. And then you got folks 345 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: like me who talk about these names. But I'm not 346 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: going to give you those names because I want to 347 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: keep getting information fed to me. Here's what I think 348 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: Nebraska needs, regardless of who they hire, and I got 349 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 2: a bunch of names that I think would be very 350 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: viable candidates. I just want a guy who not only 351 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: can take the wheel, I want a guy who can 352 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: build the ship. If you were going to take over 353 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: at Georgia because Kirby Smart was retiring tomorrow, I don't 354 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: need you to be a builder. Ryan Day did not 355 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: need to be a builder. Lincoln Riley when he took 356 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: over at Oklahoma didn't need to be a builder. This 357 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: is many things at Nebraska. What it is not is Georgia, 358 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: Ohio State or Oklahoma. And so they're gonna need a builder. 359 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: You can't tell me their identity list. You can't tell 360 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: me you got culture issues. But then expect a guy 361 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: to come in and now you just pick up where 362 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: the other guy left off. 363 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: The other guy's out the door for a reason. 364 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: You didn't even wait three and a half weeks and 365 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: save yourself seven and a half million dollars. That's a 366 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: lot of money in West Central Georgia and East Alabama. 367 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: But you didn't. 368 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: So you need to find a guy who can build 369 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: it all the way from the ground up. Now, some 370 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: of the names out there, I want to again stress 371 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: this is not my list. Producer Jesse sent this to me. 372 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: I said, Jesse, give me some names. He said, Matt 373 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: Campbell out of the question for obvious reasons. Stay away 374 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: from Matt Campbell. Next thing, Luke Fickle would be a 375 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: huge get. And I'm gonna tell you I I'm not 376 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: gonna say I don't think they can get him. I 377 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: think it's unlikely only because I think Luke Fickle, aside 378 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: from maybe one or two jobs in the country, is 379 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: where he would want to be. I don't think he'd 380 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: want to uproot his family to go to NEBRASKASA. It's 381 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: not against Nebraska, it's nothing against them. I just he's 382 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: about to be in the Big twelve, and he's already 383 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: got his program at Cincinnati operating at an optimum level. 384 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: I've seen him in person already this year, and I 385 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: don't know that there's necessarily a lot to gain for 386 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 2: him moving, which is a new age philosophy, because back 387 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: in the day, of course, it. 388 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Would be a no brainer. 389 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: If you're at Cincinnati, Nebraska offers you first thing smoking 390 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: out of there, you take it. Well, that's not where 391 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: we are anymore. 392 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: Mark Stoops. 393 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: No, no, no, he may have the best job in 394 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: the country. He's got an SEC salary, he's got SEC support, 395 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: but he's got reasonable expectations around his program. No, in 396 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: those circumstances, do you go from Kentucky to Nebraska in 397 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: today's college football? Bill O'Brien at Alabama, that's what you want. 398 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: I'm going to leave it at that, if that's what 399 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: you want. Gary Patterson. Now that the week's over, I'll 400 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: tell you guys this. So I was in the Texas 401 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: facility last week Friday afternoon, and it was right after 402 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 2: the team and the coaching staff had already gone off 403 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: for the team hotel. So I'm just walking the hallways. 404 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: A couple of our viewers there hanging out with me 405 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: on the Texas staff, and I'm walking down the hallway 406 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: and there's one dude still grinding away at his desk 407 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 2: and he's working with the lights off in his office 408 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: like a pure psychopath. I worked that way too, So 409 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: there was a kinship immediately. The guy was Gary Patterson, 410 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: who some people don't even know is at Texas until 411 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: last week. Gary Patterson's and they're just grinding away. And 412 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: that's a hallmark of Alabama. When you're at Alabama, you 413 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: walk down the hallway, you see former head coaches you 414 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: forgot existed, and Nick Saban has just got him stowed away. 415 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: Well Sarks got that with Gary Patterson at Texas. I 416 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: absolutely think Gary Patterson will be a head coach again. 417 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: I would be thrilled if I were a Nebraska fan 418 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: to get Gary Patterson. He has built it from the 419 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: ground up. He does have a proven track record. And 420 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: what I think is guys like him these little year 421 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: off sabbaticals, they're so valuable because not only is he 422 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: going to sit in Austin, Texas and game plan for Alabama, 423 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: what he gets to do is he doesn't leave the game. 424 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: He just gets to step out of the box for 425 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: a little bit and observe the game. You get to 426 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: exchange ideas, he gets to travel, he gets to meet 427 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 2: with other coaching stats and all of a sudden, you know, 428 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: you add another layer to your coaching personality, and I 429 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: think he'll be all the better for it. I would 430 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: absolutely be on board with him. Urban Meyer, don't think 431 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: it'll happen. Lance Leopold, Dynamite higher. If you can pull 432 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: it off, Dynamite Higher. Mickey Joseph. He's the interim, so 433 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: we're about to see him kind of on the job, 434 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: not training, but kind of an on the job interview here. 435 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: What can Nebraska be? Though? 436 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: You know, that's the question, and it was the follow 437 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: up actually that we had today, What can Nebraska be? 438 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: Guys? There's a lot of room. 439 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of real estate between college 440 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: football playoff contender and trash program. You know, and sometimes 441 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: when I do radio hits, and sometimes when I'm talking 442 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: to not you guys, but some folks, they don't recognize 443 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: and appreciate that vast real estate, kind of the vast 444 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: middle ground of college football. Nebraska could be a very 445 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: solid program. Like what is Iowa State? What is Iowa? 446 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: What is Wisconsin? What are those programs? Well, they're they're 447 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: not perennial playoff contenders, they're not Georgia Orbama. But they're 448 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: not trash, So Nebraska can be at the least that 449 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: that's what they can be. Now, if you want to 450 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: come at me and you want to argue no, no, no, no, no, 451 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: it can be so much more, you're shortchanging us. They 452 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: could every bit be in the west. What Ohio State 453 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: is in the east. I don't believe that. You're welcome 454 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: to prove me wrong. I don't believe that. Look, you 455 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: can have a program you can be proud of. And 456 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: I'll just end it with this. They can be a 457 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: whole heck of a lot more than they are right now. 458 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: That's the most important thing to hammer home. Next question, 459 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: This one's fun. Let me take a little swig of 460 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: water here. So when I started the show tonight, I 461 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: mentioned this phrase must win, and a lot of people 462 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 2: are claiming that our good pal in College Station, Jimbo Fisher, 463 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: is in a must win situation. Why well, because he 464 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: lost last week against app State stunning, I know, more 465 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: stunning than the final score was the box score. Okay, 466 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 2: if they were minus five turnovers, I get how they 467 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: could lose as a seventeen or eighteen point dog, But ma'am, 468 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: eighty two to thirty eight plays run advantage for app 469 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: state is a number just burned in my head for 470 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: the rest of eternity. I don't think he's in a 471 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: must win situation because what does must win mean? You 472 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: got to define what must win means. To me, must 473 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 2: win means if you do not win the game, you 474 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: are fired the next day, or either you are in 475 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: a terminal situation when it comes to your employment, and 476 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: it's just a matter of time. Like Scott Frost was 477 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: in a must win situation last week and he didn't 478 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 2: and he got fired the next day. Dude, Jimbo Fisher's 479 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: not getting fired if they lose Saturday. He's just not 480 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: They haven't even entered conference play yet. Now, what I 481 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: will tell you is kind of like I was talking 482 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 2: about a second ago. It's same metaphor, it's just a 483 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: different example. There is a wide expanse of territory between 484 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: safe and fired. It's not all one, it's not all 485 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: the other. See Jimbo Fisher is he went from safe. 486 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: If he loses this Saturday, he will have gone from 487 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: safe to somewhere in that middle ground. He will not 488 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: be in danger of losing his job emminently. That's just 489 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: not it's not realistic when you consider the investment that 490 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: they've put in him. It's not realistic when you consider 491 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: the class they just brought in. Now, having said all that, 492 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: the question was what could put him on the hot seat. 493 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: What could put him on the hot seat? Is not 494 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: a certain record this year. Let me paint you two 495 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: scenarios to tell you what I mean. Let's say, scenario A, 496 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: they go seven and five, they lose Saturday, they lose 497 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: to BAMA, they lose to LSU. They go seven and five, 498 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: but the locker rooms fully bought in. They just weren't 499 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: and a good team. That scenario A. Scenario B as 500 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: they go eight and four, better record, but the locker 501 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: room is cancerous, totally toxic, and you've got infighting, and 502 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 2: you got all sorts of off the field drama. Which 503 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: scenario would you like? Which scenario is more likely to 504 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: cost a man his job? I would argue the better record, 505 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: but the worst internal dynamic. 506 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: So it's not. 507 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Always about what number has to be in the lost 508 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: column for this guy to be in trouble. 509 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: It's a lot more than that. 510 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 2: And so internally, this is why I keep talking about 511 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: that true freshman class, and why I keep talking about, 512 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: you know how they're going to chart the future for 513 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: themselves here. People have lost games before, coaches have lost 514 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: games before. Jimbo Fisher's not done losing at Texas. 515 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: A and M. 516 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 2: The question is does he keep it on the rails 517 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 2: behind the scenes. Consequences of success is a phrase I 518 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: throw out a lot on this show. And they have 519 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: not had the on field success yet, but when you 520 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: start recruiting like they have, you could start dealing with 521 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: a set of issues that only a very few programs 522 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: in America are even in position to deal with. And 523 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: the thing about it is, in irony, the only way 524 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: you get to deal with those issues is if you 525 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: do something really, really well at a high level. So 526 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 2: do one other thing that I want to talk about 527 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: with Jimbo. And it sounds counter kind of counterintuitive based 528 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: on what I've just said, the one thing and the 529 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: reason I didn't pull any punches with him the other night. 530 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: Number One, he's grown up and can handle it. 531 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: Number Two, there's a temptation to talk about this guy 532 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: like he's still building something, like he's still in his 533 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: first or second year. Billy Napier's in his first year. Okay, 534 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: Josh Hipel is in his second year at Tennessee. Totally 535 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: reasonable to talk about those guys as still being in 536 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: ascension mode. This is Jimbo's fifth year. Man, there is 537 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: no give him time to build when you get paid 538 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: what he's paid, when you have the kind of support 539 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: and investment he has. This is why you have not 540 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: heard me bash Texas A and m fans. You're right, 541 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: and you're justified in your high expectation level because when 542 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: he came there, he told you what he needed from you, 543 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 2: both the fan base, the donor base of the university. 544 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: And where have you told him no? You haven't told 545 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: him no anywhere. So if you give, give, give, it's 546 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: totally reasonable for you to expect a return on your investment. 547 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: And guys, we're not talking about an immediate national championship, 548 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: but Man ten wins would be nice, like going to 549 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: Atlanta every once in a while would be nice. So 550 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: they've got a big game this Saturday. We broke it 551 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 2: down the other day. It's got really good traffic already. 552 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: If Miami goes in there and beats them. While I 553 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: don't think Jimbo Fisher's fired or anything like that, I 554 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: would highly recommend catching the Sunday Show. I recommend it regardless. 555 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: Next question here, I appreciate you guys being tuned in live. 556 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: By the way, make sure you perform the simple task 557 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: of liking the video and subscribing to the channel. 558 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: The Big Twelve's wide open? How wide open is? That 559 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: was the question? So the Big Twelve? How wide open it? 560 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 2: Well, the first thing we've got to see, and we're 561 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: gonna watch it Saturday, is we got to see Oklahoma 562 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: get put in a less favorable position. Oklahoma's going to Nebraska. 563 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: I think it's a game they'll win, but at the 564 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: very least they'll be made. 565 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: To feel uncomfortable. 566 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: They'll have to be in a road locker room, they'll 567 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: have to put on those road whites, and they'll have 568 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: to go into a place where you know, people would 569 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: love to overturn the bus. I just want to see 570 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 2: them on the road, and then I want to see 571 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: where their flaws are, because they've got them, just like 572 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 2: every other team has them. We have not been able 573 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: to see any water pressure put against those cracks in 574 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: that dam yet. 575 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: Can Nebraska do it? I don't know. That's first thing. 576 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: The second thing is Oklahoma State dit oh for them? 577 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: We got to see them, and we got to see 578 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 2: them in a pressure situation. The Texas situations unique. We're 579 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: talking about a Big twelve contender here. They haven't played 580 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: a conference game yet, so last week, lose a game 581 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: to Alabama could still end up being one of the 582 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: best teams in the country in Alabama. 583 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: So that's not a knock. 584 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: You've got the unique quarterback situation there right now, So 585 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: we've got to wait. But if we get Quinn Ewers 586 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: back and he is first quarter versus Alabama, Quinn Viewers, 587 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 2: do you know of any team combined with that defense 588 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: they have now at Texas? It's magically a thing. Again, 589 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: do you know of any team that's definitively better than 590 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: them in the Big Twelve? Hold that thought Baylor, by 591 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: way of them going to Provo, Utah last week and 592 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: losing a game after some of you had already gone 593 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: to sleep, they're going to be afforded the opportunity to 594 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 2: just lurk. They're off your radar, but they're still spotless 595 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: in conference play, and so they're going to be able 596 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 2: to just sneak around, not on anyone's radar except ours. 597 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: Because we're a Baylor show. I think Baylor's still right 598 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: in the thick of this thing, so don't forget about them. 599 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,239 Speaker 2: Kansas State get by Tulane this week, even though it's 600 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: not a conference game. Next week will start to tell 601 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: the tale on Kansas State. Iowa State. I don't know 602 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: if you realize this. They accomplish something they haven't done 603 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: in over half a decade last week, and even though 604 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: they only had to score ten points to do it, 605 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: a first to double digit special there in the Iowa 606 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 2: versus Iowa State rivalry game, which I went to a 607 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: year two early. Iowa State has a lot of that 608 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: Baylor quality to him. You expected him, excuse me, we 609 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: expected him to do big things last year. They let 610 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: us down. Now everyone's sold and everyone's not paying attention anymore. Still, 611 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: a really good team could be upgraded at some positions 612 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: you didn't expect them to be upgraded at. So yeah, 613 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: the Big twelve is wide open. I'm very excited to 614 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: watch at these next couple of weeks. Actually, we'll really 615 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: start to write the story of the Big twelve in 616 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: the year of our lower twenty twenty two. 617 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: Let's roll on. Next question here. 618 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: Florida, Tennessee, Florida Tennessee play next week. Some of you 619 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: are sixteen years old. You're totally unaware this is one 620 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: of the biggest rivalries in college football. Listen to you laugh. 621 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to wait a second because I know you're laughing. 622 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: I kid you not. I kid you guys. I kids 623 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: you guys not. 624 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: There was a time where you got your little magnet 625 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: schedule or you got your little helmet grid schedule in 626 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: August and you said, let's see when do Florida and 627 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: Tennessee play really big game. The reason I'm speaking about 628 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: it in that kind of term it because I am 629 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: very romantic about this sport. And secondly, this is going 630 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: to be a ranked versus ranked matchup unless disaster strike Saturday, 631 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: when these teams play next week. So the question we 632 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: got was here it is again. I didn't even realize 633 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: we had the phrasing here twice. The question is is 634 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: Florida Tennessee a must win for Billy Napier. No, no, 635 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: it's not a must win for billiy Napier. Again, let's 636 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: reiterate how we interpret must win around this show. Must 637 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 2: win equals you lose, You're fired. Billy Napier's been at 638 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: Florida about fifteen minutes. He's not getting fired if they 639 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: lose on the road as an underdog in neland stadium. 640 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: He already beat Utah in week one. They had the 641 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: close loss against Kenned when we were that close, but 642 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: they lost. 643 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: They're one and one so far. 644 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: Everybody in Gainesville you offered that proposition in August, would 645 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: take a one in one start. They go to Kneeland 646 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: next week, they lose twenty seven to seventeen. Your torch 647 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: and pitchforking Billy Napier because he's he's a two lost 648 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: coach already in year one. And by the way, let 649 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: me remind you what that year one is for. It's 650 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: because the other guy wasn't doing a good enough job 651 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: and you got rid of him. Then you brought the 652 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: new guy in and you told him overturn it. So 653 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: you fire him while he's overturning it. You put a 654 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: must win sticker on a game this early in the 655 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: season in year one, when he's overturning it. No, I'll 656 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: ask you this. I forgot who asked this question, but 657 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to hit you with a counter. I'm going 658 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: to answer your question with a question. I'm gonna stroke 659 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: my chym. If it's a must win for Billy Naper, 660 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: why isn't in a must win for Tennessee. That's your 661 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: two up there, that's Josh Heipelin year two. I mean, 662 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: Napier blessed as hard as Mema would say. He's down 663 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: there in year one in Gainsville. So why isn't a 664 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: must win for Florida? You gotta be a must win 665 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: for Tennessee? 666 00:30:59,240 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: Right. 667 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: I don't use the phrasing because I think you and 668 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: I both know, even you who asked this question, I 669 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: think you know he loses this game. What they're gonna 670 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: do is they're going to have a postgame press conference 671 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: and he's going to, in a very monotone fashion, talk 672 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: about how they need to get better. They will get better. 673 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: They're going to go recruit to get better. They're going 674 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: to fly back to Gainesville. They're going to dust themselves 675 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: off and get right back at it six days later. 676 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: That's what'll happen, and that's all it will happen if 677 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 2: Florida loses. No, it's not a must win. I feel 678 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: like we just did the game preview a week early. 679 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: But no, it's not a must whim we got one 680 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: more question here, Yeah, we got one more question. Then 681 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to add another pick on the Ramudal Express, 682 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: and then I don't know, We're gonna enjoy whatever Auburn 683 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: has to offer. 684 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Tonight we had a. 685 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: Question about national brands and big deals, and the question 686 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: was why do people like Tennessee and Nebraska still feel 687 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: like they're a national brand when they haven't won in 688 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: a while. And there is such a difference in being 689 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: in the top and being nationally relevant. There is a 690 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: lot of equity that was built up a long time 691 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: ago that makes you a national brand. 692 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: You can suck and be a national brand. Okay. 693 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 2: Brand building is decades over decade. For instance, say it louder. 694 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: Notre Dame's winless right now, Notre Dame is a national brand. 695 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: Notre Dame could go oh in twelve this year, Notre 696 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: Dame would still be a national brand. 697 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: Why is that? Because how many of you know Newt Rockney. 698 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: No, look at the headshake, But there was a guy 699 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: back when they still played in black and white, and 700 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: his name was Newt Rockney and he did big things. 701 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 2: Eric Parsisan did big things. Frank Lay did big things, 702 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: and so Notre Dame will matter for a long time, 703 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: no matter what they do on the field present day. 704 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: Tennessee for a long time was a national power. Tennessee 705 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: Alabama used to be the biggest rivalry game in this conference, 706 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: this conference being the SEC. Because we're parked in Lee County, 707 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 2: Alabama tonight. That's the reason. Like if I I'll give 708 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 2: you an example when we were out at eleait eleven 709 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: and we packed up our stuff and we go through 710 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: Lax and we're about to fly home. Cincinnati made the 711 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: playoff last year. Right if I were to take a 712 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: Tennessee logo and I take a Cincinnati Bearcat logo and 713 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: I walked through Lax, which one gets recognized more? And 714 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: the answer is Tennessee ten to one gets recognized more. 715 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: But they've been awful on the field, been nothing right 716 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: home about on the field. 717 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: So how is that? 718 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: I would venture to think Nebraska is probably even still 719 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: a more recognizable logo than some of your I don't 720 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: want to say Johnny come lately, but they are fresh blood, 721 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: they are new money at the table, guys. Brand building 722 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: is totally different. It is not correlated to modern day 723 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: success on the field. Now here's what you can't do. 724 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: What you can't do is just be awful in the abyss. 725 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: As our buddy J. C. Sherbert would say, for forty years. 726 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: That's how you erase all that equity you built up. 727 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: But look, brand building and credibility, if you build over decades. 728 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: But then you tell me a couple of years of 729 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: ineptitude on the field, that's enough to erase it. Well, 730 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 2: it really wasn't worth that much, you know. And so 731 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: I look at the Tennessee logo, and I'm also able 732 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: to look at them the subpar on the field for 733 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: a little bit, and I'm still able to say I 734 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: respect what that thing represents, even though it might not 735 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: be that right now, all right, let's tack this on. 736 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: I got a game. 737 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: I did not give this to you the other night, 738 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 2: but I got a game that we need to get to. 739 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 2: So Rominuel Express is going to get hot. And that's 740 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: not a prediction. I can't guarantee it for legal reasons. 741 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: I strongly suspect that we're gonna get hot. Here's what 742 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: we're already on this week. We're on Purdue minus one 743 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: and a half. They're at Syracuse Akron Go Zipps plus 744 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: forty seven. And a half at Tennessee. We like Texas 745 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: Tech plus ten against NC State. Michigan State is going 746 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: all the way to Washington. We're taking them plus three 747 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: and a half. We think they beat Washington out right. 748 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 2: Here's the new one we're tacking on tonight, Liberty plus 749 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 2: six teen and a half. We really like them. And 750 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: also I didn't write it down, but I just remembered 751 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: Director Colin didn't even have to tell me. In my year, 752 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: we're on Georgia Tech plus sixteen and a half as well. Yeah, 753 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: that's right, we were going to We're going to put 754 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: our money that we had to earn, and we're gonna 755 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 2: put it on Georgia Tech to do some things in 756 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: a football game for US. So Purdue minus one and 757 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 2: a half, Akron plus forty seven and a half, Texas 758 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 2: Tech plus ten, Michigan State plus three and a half, 759 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech plus sixteen and a half, and then we 760 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: are on Liberty plus sixteen and a half. Look, this 761 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 2: is the first time that we've taken the show on 762 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: the road. And because I had not doubts, Big game 763 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 2: Dan and Greg and Nicker here, so I didn't have doubts. 764 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: I had questions about the technical capacity we had. I 765 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: did not tell people where we were going to be. 766 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: I just said we're going to be in Auburn, and 767 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 2: so I told Big Game Dany, we may have a 768 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: person there, we may have fifty there. I don't know 769 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: who's going to show up. A lot of our people 770 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 2: showed up, and I thank you. I would love to 771 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: know how you knew where we were, but I thank. 772 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: You a whole lot. Appreciate you, guys, sincerely. 773 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: So take a look at this if you're back at home, 774 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 2: because this is not the last time we're taking the 775 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: show on the road. Management has come through for us 776 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: in a big way, and so this is really ultimately 777 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: your doing. You know, some of you have showed up, 778 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of you make this possible. So look, 779 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: we really appreciate it, because it wasn't too long ago 780 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: that I was about forty minutes to the east of here, 781 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 2: holding a much earlier eye Josh in my hand and 782 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 2: doing this in a local news building. So hey, hoost, 783 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 2: what a funk it look out for all we've come. 784 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, guys. Though we've got producer Jesse and 785 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 2: direct Colin all the way back in Nashville. We got Nick, 786 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: we got Big Game Day, we got Greg here and 787 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: about half of our Hate State senior class behind me. 788 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys. Watch and make sure you like 789 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: the video and subscribe to the channel. On the way out, 790 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 2: we will see you at Jordenhair Stadium this Saturday. Take care, 791 00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 2: Thank God, bless