1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Well. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: In this episode of NEWTS World, Texas state lawmakers are 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: an impass after Texas House Democrats left the state last 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: week to stop the passage of a new congressional map 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: drawn with the name of netting five more Republican seats 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: in the US House. The quorum break has left the 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: capitol in Austin at an impass. On Tuesday, the state's 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: top elected officials, Governor Greg Abbott and Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: said the legislature will adjourn its current overtime session this Friday, 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: and the governor will immediately call another special session. I'm 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: really pleased to welcome my guest, somebody who I think 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: has been reshaping America and doing an amazing job, Governor 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Greg Abbott of Texas. Greg, welcome and thank you for 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: joining me on Newtsworld. 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: My pleasure. Thank you. 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: Need so just the news today. You vowed to keep 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: calling special sessions, which can last for thirty days, until 18 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: the Democratic lawmakers actually come back home to your state. 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Would you explain why the quorum is needed for a 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: special session because you have pretty large majorities, don't you. 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: In Texas, we have good majorities in the House and 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Senate as well as we hold every state wide office. 23 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: In fact, you'd like this kind of stat. Texas has 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: the longest statewide winning street among Republicans in the United States. 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: We are undefeated as a Republican party in statewide elections 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety six. In the Texas House, there are 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty members, eighty eight of whom are Republican, 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: and so they'd be sixty two of whom are a Democrat. 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: To have a quorum requires two thirds of the vote, 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: which means we have to have one hundred votes to 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: have a quorum for the House to be able to 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: conduct business. So the Democrats have run away, they have absconded. 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: They're refusing to show up and do their duty. They 34 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: know that if they were in the state of Texas, 35 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the Texas Department of Public Sety would have the authority 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: to arrest them and take them to the capitol. And 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: that's why you see them surface in of all places, Illinois, California, Massachusetts, 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: New York, the top blue states in the country, is 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: where these Texas Democrats have run to. As a side note, 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: it is offensive to Texans to see these Texas Democrats 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: run from a fight. You know, knew The way Texas 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: got us bravado and our reputation to begin with was 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: the Battle of the Alamo. That was the quick essential 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: example of standing and fighting a battle, regardless of how 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: tough that battle may be. But yet these Democrats are 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: the antithesis of what it means to be a Texan. 47 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: They cut and run when the going got tough for them, 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: and so they're an embarrassment and I don't see any 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: reason why their voters would send them back, either they 50 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: can find Republicans to replace them, or a Democrat who 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: would actually stand and fight for their constituents. 52 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: I'm puzzled because under Texas law, don't they actually face 53 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: the penalty on almost a daily basis if they refuse 54 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: to show up. 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: They do face penalties on a daily basis. For one, 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: they are not able right now to receive their paycheck. 57 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: They've got to show up in person to do that. Second, 58 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: they are subject to fines, and there are other penalties 59 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: that are imposed by the Texas House of Representatives. But 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: you have people like Bechel Rourk out there who is 61 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: raising money to help pay for those fines, and so 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: we can't tell yet how consequential those fines are going 63 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: to be What I know is this one thing that 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: gets to them the most. This isn't the first time 65 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: the Democrats in Texas have cut and run. They make 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: a practice of this. They did it back in twenty 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: twenty one when we were trying to pass election integrity laws. 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: They did it back in two thousand and three when 69 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: we went through redistricting. Then bottom line is that what 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: we know is with me having the ability to call 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: new special sets every thirty days, is going to require 72 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: them to remain outside of the state of Texas for months, 73 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: maybe even years, and at some point in time they're 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: going to give up and return to the state. 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think that Wisconsin Democrats did this at one 76 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: point with some Republican governor reforms that they hated and 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: only they just broke. And by the way, it's a 78 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: great irony. Illinois is the most gerrymandered state in the country. 79 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: California is the second most gerrymandered state in the country. 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: So for them to run to states which have been 81 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: practicing the art of reshaping districts, there's a certain great 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: irony to it. What kind of feedback are you getting 83 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: from the folks back home? 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: Texas don't like people who refuse to show up to work. 85 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: There are Texans listening to this right now and Texas 86 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: across the state. They have to show up to work. 87 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: If they don't show up to work, they're going to 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: lose their job. When they see these Texas Democrats refusing 89 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: to show up and do the job they were elected 90 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: to do, Texans get angry about it. Know this my 91 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: new detail about the Texas Constitution. The Texas Constitution actually 92 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: requires using the word shall these members shall show up 93 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: and vote on and take action on these pieces of 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: legislation that I have in the special session agenda. Here's 95 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: my point. They're refusing to undertake the constitutional requirement of 96 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: what they must do. So what I fellow Texans feel 97 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: about these people and it shows that this time and 98 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: every time in the past, is about eighty percent of 99 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: Texans view them unfavorably for not showing up and doing 100 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: their job. 101 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: Is there any likely that some of them will break 102 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: and you'll get at least enough to make a quorum. 103 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: It may be a possibility. There were a few who 104 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: did remain in the state of Texas, not enough for 105 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: us to be able to make a quorum at a minimum. 106 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: That's going to require twelve Democrats to be able to 107 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: meet a quorum. We think that by sheer exhaustion by 108 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: other means and strategies, there may be some who decide 109 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: to make the decision to come back, and know this 110 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: when I issue the special session agenda, who knows there 111 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: may be some other items on there that will help 112 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: the Democrats understand. If they don't come back and come 113 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: back quickly, there's going to be an even heavier price 114 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: to pay. 115 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: So I'm curious the way this is being developed. If 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: they refuse to come back, is there any provision where 117 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: you could declare their seats vacant and have a special election? 118 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: Not per se. Under the Texas Constitution, it allows the 119 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: Texas Governor to fill a seat vacated, and that's what 120 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 1: the constution provides. Separate from that note, I did something 121 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: that's never been done before. I found a legal action 122 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: in the Texas Supreme Court calling for the removal of 123 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: the leader of these Democrats, vacating if you would, of 124 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: the seat. It's a legal procedure called quo warento, and 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: it seeks to remove from office someone who is not 126 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: complying with the law of someone who has basically abandoned 127 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: their seat. And our contention is that the leader of 128 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: the Democrat Caucus has abandoned his seat by refusing to 129 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: show up and undertake his constitutionally mandated duties. The Texas 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: Supreme Court first they requested that this leader, the Democratic 131 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Leader's name is jing Wu, first that he filed a response, 132 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: and then last night the Supreme Court set it for 133 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: extended briefing, full briefing by all parties. This is a 134 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: signal to these runaway Democrats that their time is almost up, 135 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: because there may be very well a Texas Supreme Court 136 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: decision coming out maybe sometime soon, that will say that 137 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: they can, in fact be removed. And if they're removed, 138 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: what the Texas Constitution provides is at that moment in time, 139 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: I am authorized as governor to call for an immediate 140 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: election to fill that vacated seat. 141 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: Now, if they were removed, would that reduce the number 142 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: of people needed for recorum? 143 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: Isus? That would be the case. 144 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: So literally, if they end up getting removed, you. 145 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: Will have a quorum exactly. 146 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: This is wild. You've always so own a lot of 147 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: courage and determination and have done a number of things 148 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: I really liked, including bussing people to sensitive democratic areas 149 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 2: to give them a sense of what dealing with the 150 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: legal immigration was like. Beta or Arc was quoted as saying, 151 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: to hell with the law, let's just whin. That strikes 152 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: me as an insane comment. Am I missing something here? 153 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: No? I think you kind of candy coated it. To 154 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: be honest, you took out the cuss words and you 155 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: took out the other extraordinary rhetoric on his part. You 156 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: may recall he ran against me for governor just three 157 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: years ago, and that's why he lost by double digit. 158 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Texans don't like rhetoric like what he uses. They know 159 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: that he really is nothing more than rhetoric. It can't 160 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: deliver for what Texans want, and I don't think Americans 161 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: agree with it. He's a big talker, but he can't 162 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 1: get anything done, either at the ballot box or when 163 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: he's elected office. 164 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: Among all the politicians I've watched recently, he's had the 165 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: greatest ability to stay afloat while failing. It's been amazing 166 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: to watch. Apparently he has resources, and the left must 167 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: love him because he remains somehow a persona even when 168 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: he can't win anything. 169 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: So he also has this unique ability. I think he's 170 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: the best I've ever seen at incinerating Democrat donations. He 171 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: goes through hundreds of millions of dollars of it, and 172 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: why Democrats continue to give him money only to watch 173 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: that money be incinerated is beyond my comprehension. 174 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: Since we're talking in Texas, I just wrote a piece 175 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: about the steady migration of people and registration out of 176 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party into the Republican Party. He was a 177 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: guy named South Keshell who's a brilliant student of party registration. 178 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 2: And the shift in vote patterns in South Texas from 179 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: Hillary through Biden to Trump is breathtaking. I mean, we're 180 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 2: seeing changes on a scale that I never would have 181 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: expected possible. 182 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Well, and the person who made it possible was Donald Trump. 183 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: So your audience can understand exactly what you're talking about. 184 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: When you refer to South Texas. You're talking about all 185 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: the border counties, and we'll count two counties in so 186 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: think of every county on the border and then one 187 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: further to the interior. And Donald Trump won all but 188 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: one or two of those in this last election. The 189 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: last time a Republican won those counties was in the 190 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, and those counties are predominantly Hispanic as in 191 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: about ninety to ninety five percent Hispanic. And what we 192 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: have found is that Hispanics are now voting Republican because 193 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: listen to, Hispanics want secure borders just like everybody else does. 194 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: Hispanics they don't want boys and girls' sports. Hispanics they 195 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: leave in the rule of law. They believe in law enforcement, 196 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: and they're against these leftist ideas about defunding the police. 197 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: And so what has happened is Democrats in Texas have 198 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: abandoned what they took for granted was a core constituency 199 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: of theirs to the Hispanic community, and those Hispanics are 200 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: now aligning with Republicans and electing Republicans. And it's one 201 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: of the reasons behind why we are redrawing these lines, 202 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: because we're trying to readraw all these lines in ways 203 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: that congressional seats that had voted for a Democrat for 204 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Congress but chose Donald Trump for president. We want to 205 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: make sure they're going to have their ability to choose 206 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: their candative choice when they vote to send a Republican 207 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: to the United States House of Representatives. 208 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: In terms of this standoff in the legislature, Does it 209 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: eventually grind itself out or what's the realistic endpoint to 210 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: the standoff? 211 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: One hundred percent of the time, it grinds itself out 212 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: and they come back to Texas. The only thing that 213 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: we don't know is it going to be next week, 214 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: Is it going to be next month, next season? We'll see. 215 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: All I can guarantee you are these things. One is 216 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: that I'm going to continue to call special session after 217 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: special session. If they dare show up in the state 218 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: of Texas during any of those times, they will be arrested, 219 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: they will be taken to the capital, and we will 220 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: have a quorum, which means they're going to have to 221 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: stay outside of the state of Texas. That get us 222 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: very hard on them after a while, And so it 223 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: does grind them out, and they will return to Texas. 224 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: I just cannot give you a precise date when they will. 225 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: But i'd really appreciate your courage, your tenacity. I have 226 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: all the way through who ever since you became governor. 227 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: What you're doing right now is historic, and frankly, if 228 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: you succeed, and I suspect you will, you virtually guarantee 229 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: that the House will remain Republican next year, and that 230 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: is the most important single step in President Trump being 231 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: successful in the long run. I mean, if we lose 232 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: the House next year, you know that the radical Democrats 233 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: are going to try to impeach him. You know that 234 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: they're going to try to investigate everything. You know that 235 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: they're going to block every one of his budget requests. 236 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: And as a governor, you know the consequence is better 237 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: than most people. So what you're doing by attempting to 238 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: get back to accurate congressional districts, it's important for people 239 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 2: remember the really truly gerrymandered districts in this country are 240 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: in places like Massachusetts, Illinois, California. The Democrats made an 241 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: art form of making sure that even when Republicans get 242 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: forty or forty two percent of the vote, they get 243 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: like twelve percent of the seats. So a lot of 244 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: their whining is totally dishonest. But what you're doing with 245 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: this fight is you are setting the stage for a 246 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: Trump presidency that is truly historic. You did the same 247 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: thing in the fight over the border, where you were 248 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: just extraordinarily effective, and my hat's off to you. You've 249 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: been a great governor in general, but this is going 250 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: to make you a place in history that's really really important. 251 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, And it's so important for the people 252 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: of the United States. They hunger for the reforms that 253 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: President Trump is putting into place. Look at what he 254 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: did in Washington, d C. It's just a sub part 255 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: of his focus, and that is making our country safer. 256 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: Liquor he did with regard to Iran, making the world 257 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: safer and so hoever, President wants to make the country 258 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: a safer place, and we need to make sure he 259 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: has members of Congress who are are going to agree 260 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: with him as opposed to those who are going to 261 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: undercut him. 262 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: Well, and as the governor with the largest border in 263 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: the country, you know what, in a huge immediate impact 264 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: he had on getting the border under control. 265 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: Night and day difference overnight. This time last year, we 266 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: were having thousands of people across the border a day. 267 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: Now there are zero people allowed to cross the border 268 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: and remain in the United States. 269 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: It's amazing. And again, part of that's because of your 270 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: leadership in the long fight to get control of the border. 271 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: So America has many reasons to be grateful to you 272 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: as governor and governor, but I want to thank you 273 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: for taking the time in the middle of everything else 274 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: you're doing to share this with us. 275 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. 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