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Speaker 1: Played in the NFL for thirteen seasons. All these breakdowns

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Speaker 1: are so good on the internet. NFL network as well,

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Speaker 1: made the playoffs three times. Here's for that Cowboy team

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Speaker 1: that reached the NFC championship back in the eighty two.

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Speaker 1: Brian Balding are our friends joining us live? So I said,

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Speaker 1: this McCaffrey touching the ball twenty seven times is to me,

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Speaker 1: it's just way too much. I don't like it at all.

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Speaker 1: And I also think running back's the only position now

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Speaker 1: in football you can hit from any angle, anywhere, anytime.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of not hol him He had

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Speaker 1: eight carries and eight touches in the fourth What did

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Speaker 1: you make of not taking him out.

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Speaker 3: Especially up fourteen points like they were Colin? I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's got three hundred and seventy two touches so far.

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Speaker 4: This year. He's still got two games to go.

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Speaker 3: But you know, his longest run of the year, Troy

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Speaker 3: Aigman mentioned it last night, twenty four yards in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter.

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Speaker 4: Like he seems like he loves it. He bounces up

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Speaker 3: I know last year he had the injured year and

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Speaker 3: he had the achilles issues and he only had fifty

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Speaker 3: carries last year. So maybe he's a lot fresher this year.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think he wants to come out of

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Speaker 3: these games. But if I was Kyle, I would take

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Speaker 3: him out of these games. When you have these these games,

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Speaker 3: I'd save him for the postseason, get him as fresh

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Speaker 3: as possible for the postseeds. He's going to get two

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Speaker 3: thousand yards, he's going to get one hundred catches.

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Speaker 4: He's going to get over four hundred touches.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot for any running back, especially one that

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Speaker 3: has done that already in his career.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised by Philip Rivers?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I am.

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Speaker 3: However, you know this thing, this brain of his, the

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Speaker 3: arm obviously has diminished. He's never run away from anybody

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Speaker 3: in this business, but he can still breach you with

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Speaker 3: his brain. He still knows how to diagnose the defense.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great last night where they had

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Speaker 3: everybody micd up. You could hear all the checks, all

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Speaker 3: the signals, you know, getting the clearouts on third down

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Speaker 3: to Josh downs, the touchdown to Alec Pierce, like.

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Speaker 4: He can still carve you up.

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Speaker 3: And I thought he's probably the envy of every offensive

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Speaker 3: with the line of scrimmage and what he sees and.

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Speaker 4: What he can do to manipulate your defense right now.

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Speaker 1: The you know, it's interesting. I'm I'm watching the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: with George Pickens and Floorny has become a really nice

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Speaker 1: little player for them. Ceede Lamb's obviously great in your

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Speaker 1: thirteen years and you played in Dallas. Listen. Wide receiver

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Speaker 1: DK metcalf pookin Nakua got in trouble. It's a very

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Speaker 1: expressive position. I would say the offensive line is really

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Speaker 1: a unit. You guys could go camping together, like it's

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Speaker 1: a real unit. Wide receiver is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an NBA player. It's like, hey, give me the ball,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna break a guy down, Like I get it.

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Speaker 1: It's an expressive, almost artistic position. What do you do

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Speaker 1: with George Pickens because he's a matchup issue. But I

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Speaker 1: look at that position, Brian and college furnishes the NFL

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Speaker 1: with about fifteen receivers a year that can play. What

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Speaker 1: do you do with George Pickens.

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Speaker 3: I would try to sign him if I could. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, you got it. Like Philadelphia figured it.

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Speaker 4: Out to sign A J.

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Speaker 3: Brown, to sign Saquon to sign Devontae Smith, Dallas Goddard,

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Speaker 3: they got everybody signed. They haven't had an ex receiver

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Speaker 3: I feel like they still need him. I know it's

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Speaker 4: He's been a big reason why you want to watch.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys because of his ability just to you know,

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Speaker 1: Did you ever play a team in your career, or

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Speaker 4: I don't think I played.

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Speaker 3: I mean in Philadelphia, we had a team, but we

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Speaker 3: the playoff games there. But what do Chicago's doing? I

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Speaker 3: mean they lead the league in takeaways like a big

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Speaker 3: the end of that game where Jade Daniels fumbled the

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Speaker 3: seemed to be the trigger point for this team. But

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Speaker 3: there's also something about this team where they're never out

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Speaker 3: to lead this league in interceptions he's done it before. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you look at Chelsey Gardner Johnson. That guy is a

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Speaker 3: those guys are natural in Nashwan, right, you know, came

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Speaker 4: He's beaten out Jalen Johnson.

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Speaker 3: And so I feel like as long as they keep

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Speaker 1: So I watched Philadelphia manhandle Washington and really run the ball.

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Speaker 1: They looked like last year's team, and Washington is not

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Speaker 1: very good defensively. But it is interesting there are certain players.

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Speaker 1: There's a stat on George Kittle, this is remarkable. San

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Speaker 1: he doesn't play, and he's worth of a touchdown this

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Speaker 1: it's is blocking Andane Lane Johnson's a right tackle. They're

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Speaker 1: not the same offense.

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, is it intellect? Is it toughness? Kittle Lane Johns.

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Speaker 1: We don't look at tight ends and right tackles as

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. But there is something about those players, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure what it is. They're different when

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Lane is unbeatable, honestly, Like I'm good

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Speaker 3: friends with him. I see him all the time, work

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Speaker 3: out in his backyard at his barn. But he's unbeatable.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's beating him this year. I mean when they would

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Speaker 3: You know, he he just pitches a shutout at right tackles,

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Speaker 3: So you never give him any help. You never have

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Speaker 3: a little bit more aggress since when he's in there,

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Speaker 3: the quarterback likes to hold the ball to begin with.

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Speaker 4: It's not a knock on jail and hurts, It's what

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Speaker 4: he is.

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Speaker 3: But he gets an extra tick when Lane is in

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Speaker 4: Lane gives you that opportunity. And then I think when you.

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Speaker 3: Go in the huddle and Lane Johnson's that right tackle,

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Speaker 3: you just feel like you've got the best tackle on

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Speaker 3: all of football and you're gonna You're supposed to be good.

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Speaker 4: You're supposed to make these plays.

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Speaker 3: And I think he gives that whole team, including the

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you watch a lot of film and I

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Speaker 1: and I suggested something last week. I said, listen, when

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Speaker 1: you're a bad team, Brian, you have to consider everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: free agency, draft, trade deadline, you have to have meetings

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Speaker 1: with everything. And so I said, if Fernando Mendoza looks

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Speaker 1: great in his next three starts for Indiana and he

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Speaker 1: goes up against Bama and he's just up and down

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Speaker 1: the field, Jackson Dart has absolutely in his last four starts,

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators have a little tape now and he's not

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Speaker 1: quite the same guy now. It may be scatterbo it,

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Speaker 1: maybe other reasons. He's obviously got some talent. But don't

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Speaker 1: you have to consider that you could restart the clock

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Speaker 1: even though it's only a year. If Fernando Mendoza is

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Speaker 1: blowing through these SEC teams in Ohio State, again, don't

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Speaker 1: you have to consider drafting him even though you just

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Speaker 1: drafted Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean there might be a whole new regime

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe Joe Shane isn't there next year, and

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Speaker 3: go get there, Joe Burrow, if Fernando is that, I

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart's got real skills now, like the talent around

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Speaker 3: him is awful. I mean, I'd like to see a

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Speaker 3: it like Theo does right there. I mean he's dropped

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Speaker 3: a couple of them that led to interceptions. I didn't

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Speaker 3: I also don't think that they prepared him very well

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Speaker 3: Just look at Caleb right now with Ben Johnson, the

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Speaker 4: I like to see.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see this kid, Jackson Dart, with a

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Speaker 3: and I think they're going to be okay with him

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Speaker 3: maybe better than Okay, I think he's got a chance

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Speaker 3: to flourish. But to answer your question, should you consider

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Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza. Absolutely, You got to look at everything in

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Speaker 3: every position. You look at When the Chargers drafted Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 3: they had Drew Brees there. We didn't know that Drew

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Speaker 3: Brees is gonna be a Hall of Fame quarterback, but

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Speaker 3: you know where, they drafted Eli and then they traded

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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers. But still you've got to consider every position

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Speaker 3: when you're the New York Giants right now, starting with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we were talking about this past week.

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Speaker 1: The Rams special teams have cost him a game against

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Speaker 1: the Niners, the Eagles, and the Ehawks. The back end,

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Speaker 1: the back end of that secondary not great. I saw

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Speaker 1: Carolina mow through them. Are the Rams the best team

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Speaker 1: in that If I said to you best team in

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Speaker 1: the league, it's very hard to be the best team

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Speaker 1: of your defense and your special teams routinely loses you games.

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Speaker 1: Who is your best team in this league today?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's Jacksonville had a very impressive victory in Denver.

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Speaker 7: Con Let's start with Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. They

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Speaker 8: I guess it's different when you when you do this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, anything for you on this.

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Speaker 7: Well, this won't make Blazon five or if it were Sunday,

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Speaker 1: I like Dallas. Actually, I think the Commanders are so

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Speaker 7: I know the defense stinks. Any concern about like Dak

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Speaker 7: Talked about cap hits, like Dak has a huge cap hit.

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Speaker 6: Crap, Colin.

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Speaker 7: I mean, listen, let's first, let's go to the sound

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Speaker 3: Well, he left, he went back to the locker room,

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Speaker 4: Timper spilled over, and.

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Speaker 7: That's not mature behavior. Colin from a veteran leader.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that's overstated. I think when you have worked,

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Speaker 6: Those were time out, Those were teammates.

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Speaker 7: This is a player going off on the coach and

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Speaker 6: He went to the locker room. You know what, coin

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Speaker 7: When next time you're here, I'm gonna be ounhappy with

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Speaker 1: Well, you got five other players sitting there. It's not

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Speaker 1: I think this just happens in relationships. They'll it's it's

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Speaker 1: This team's got way bigger issues than that. They're old,

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Speaker 1: out of town.

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Speaker 7: We don't need that toxic personality around Steph Curry, a

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Speaker 7: class act, one of the ambassadors of the league. I mean, hell,

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Speaker 7: I mean it's Draymond Green. Really it's disappointing.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 7: There was a time when I liked Draymond, like, I

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Speaker 7: don't know, eight years ago. I can't believe you're actually

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Speaker 7: defending him even a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I would just say that you don't want to overreact

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Speaker 1: to these situations the NBA, major League Baseball, these long seasons.

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Speaker 7: Something's going on with Draymond Because earlier this week we

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Speaker 7: saw him get into it with a guy on the

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Speaker 7: Suns and he was yelling at it. He like kind

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Speaker 7: of shoved him in the head and called him, kept

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Speaker 7: calling him white boy. I think it was Gillespie, and

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Speaker 7: I was like.

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Speaker 6: What are you doing, Draymond?

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Speaker 7: Not great except some you don't know what people have

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Speaker 7: going on off the court, that's right, maybe there's something,

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Speaker 7: but this behavior, this is just embarrassing. I don't want

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Speaker 7: to see him on the court. On Christmas Day, they

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Speaker 7: got Cooper Flag and Steph Curry. Okay, these are ambassadors

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Speaker 7: of the league. Cooper Flag could be the future of

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Speaker 7: the league. I don't need these sideshow acts mucking it

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Speaker 7: up on Christmas Day.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the News.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: Herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean Golden State. I think it's very difficult.

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Speaker 1: I think after that went over the Celtics, they should

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Speaker 1: have kept Curry and moved a lot of the parts.

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Speaker 1: They're just the West is too deep, too young, too athletic,

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Speaker 1: and that's part of the frustration. In my opinion. It's

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Speaker 1: the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and neon Eastern a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS

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Speaker 2: one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. Mostly stay off all the social media stuff,

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Speaker 1: have people do it for me. But occasionally during the

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Speaker 1: football season people make good suggestions on topics and it's

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Speaker 1: all kind of scammed through it sometimes because people have

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Speaker 1: good ideas on stuff. And I remember about those four

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Speaker 1: or five, six weeks ago. Somebody it's like Colin, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what is this The Chicago Bears show, folks, one of

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Speaker 1: the great watches in the league. The quarterback's incredible. Their

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Speaker 1: games are all close, they're all come from behind. I

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Speaker 1: thought the Bears Packers game honestly may have been the

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Speaker 1: game of the year in the NFL. Seattle and Rams

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Speaker 1: have played a couple of beauties, but by the way,

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Speaker 1: Chicago San Francisco next week is the game of the week.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, well, when I was in LA, You're like, well,

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Speaker 1: you're very favorable to LA teams. Well, let's see the

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Speaker 1: Rams and the Chargers will both make the playoffs. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers are pretty interesting. I don't know. The Dodgers are

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Speaker 1: the best baseball dynasty arguably since the seventy five Cincinnati Reds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you want me to say, La,

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Speaker 1: He's got great patches. They just they got good owners

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Speaker 1: and great coaches. The Bears are fascinating. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a fascinating watch, full of personality, winning late close games.

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you're playing the Packers and the Bears,

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Speaker 1: doesn't that sound big? That sounds like a big game

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Speaker 1: Bears Niners. That sounds like the game of the week.

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Speaker 1: Here's Nick right earlier on the continued development of Caleb.

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Speaker 9: If you were to ask me, Colin, here are fifteen

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Speaker 9: traits that make a quarterback and make up an NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Pick one that is most fixable, I would say, not

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Speaker 9: great at layups. The stuff he is great at is

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Speaker 9: not only is it not like fixable, it's not teachable.

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Speaker 9: And so give me the guy who has the inherent

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Speaker 9: greatness in him, and then pair him with someone like

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Speaker 9: Ben Johnson whose job it is to help him with

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Speaker 9: the other stuff.

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Speaker 1: I know. The other thing we talked about the Bears

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Speaker 1: is we had a graphic earlier. It's crazy of the

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Speaker 1: eight division leaders, the kind of nerdy, mathy cap hit reality.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the division leading quarterbacks, the highest

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Speaker 1: cap hit. I do apologize to the radio audience. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of numbers on the screen, but here's the

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Speaker 1: easiest way to digest it. Of all the division leading quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: eight of eight have a cap hit of sixteenth or lower,

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Speaker 1: most in the twenties. You're paying your quarterback of fortune

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Speaker 1: good luck. I mean Aaron Rodgers deserves credit. He had

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Speaker 1: the Steelers over a barrel. Mike Tomlin was getting heat

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Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I want better weapons. Well, he

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Speaker 1: told the Steelers it's not about money. Here's the number

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at that allows them to go get DK Metcalf,

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell, who didn't cost a lot from Philadelphia, but

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Speaker 1: he's a great weapon. The untold story of Rogers that's

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Speaker 1: not getting a lot of play is his cap hit

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Speaker 1: is fourteen million bucks and he's playing great. And I

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Speaker 1: do think, is you age and you've got one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty two undred million dollar net worth? I do think.

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Speaker 1: I've always said this, don't chase money in my business.

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Speaker 1: Chase good management or good bosses. There's money out there.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of great management. In all my

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Speaker 1: years doing this, I've been very fortunate for the record,

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Speaker 1: but I think in the same thing when you're an

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Speaker 1: older quarterback and you've made your money, don't chase the money.

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Speaker 1: Get it. Get now. Matt Stafford makes good money. He's

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Speaker 1: a big cap hit, but it's not Remember the Raiders

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Speaker 1: offered more for Stafford and he's like, no, no, no, I'll

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Speaker 1: take less. And living in California, you're gonna make less

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Speaker 1: than fifty cents on the dollar. I mean you are anyway,

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Speaker 1: So the very yeah, I mean that's just the reality

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Speaker 1: of the text situation in California. So only one quarterback

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Speaker 1: in this league is a major cap hit and is

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Speaker 1: a playoff team right now, and that's because he has

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Speaker 1: maybe the best coach and a roster where they have

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Speaker 1: stolen talent Puka fifth round, Kyron Williams fourth or fifth round.

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Speaker 1: They don't miss on defensive draft picks. That is the

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Speaker 1: mathy part of football that nobody discusses.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the team building that we love. So you talked

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Speaker 7: a lot about Caleb Williams. Let me ask you a question,

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Speaker 7: Colin Coward, of the seven quarterbacks going into the playoffs currently,

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Speaker 7: who do you have the most faith in? Not based

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Speaker 7: on skill, I'm just talking about playing football this season.

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Speaker 6: Every quarterback backs in order in the NFC.

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Speaker 7: Sam Darnold of the Seahawks, Caleb, Jalen Hurts, Bryce Young, Brock,

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Speaker 7: Purdy Stafford, and Jordan Love Stafford. Stafford wuld be one. Okay,

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Speaker 7: where does Caleb Williams' rank? Just trust I'm not talking about.

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Speaker 1: His you're talking NFC. I would go tell me write

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Speaker 1: this down. I'd go Stafford number one. I don't disagree.

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Speaker 1: I would probably do Jordan Love number two. I like

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love a lot. I do too, But okay, number three.

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Speaker 1: Give me the quarterbacks again.

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Speaker 7: We got so you have not done Donald, you haven't

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Speaker 7: done Hurts, you haven't done Bryce, Young, Brock, perty or Kayleb.

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Speaker 7: It's Donald Donald above Purty, Okay, fair enough?

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Speaker 6: Whatever?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I would put You know, remember it

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Speaker 1: gets cloudy in the playoffs. I do not in Santa Cla.

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Speaker 6: Actually it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: San, I would say, I don't even know what to

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Speaker 1: do with Jalen Hurts. I really don't. Honestly, It's like

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Speaker 1: I would probably do. I would probably do Purty four

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Speaker 1: because of his coach and Hittle's healthy.

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Speaker 7: So then Hurts would be five. So Caleb Williams of

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Speaker 7: the Bears would come in six ahead of Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Correct, Well, dude, it's his first year with his staff.

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about, man. I lead about the Bears.

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Speaker 1: So if you do the AFC, it's the same thing

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Speaker 1: I likes. He'd probably be four or five or six.

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Speaker 6: No, even six or seven. Aaron, Rodgers and bow Nicks

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Speaker 6: are at the bottom for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know I trust Aaron. I trust Aaron would

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Speaker 1: be fine. I mean, Aaron's limited. They have one receiver.

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Speaker 7: Aaron may have more playoff appearances than all those quarterbacks combined.

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Speaker 1: I would trust in this. I would trust Allan Old

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Speaker 1: play well. Herbert o'l play well. I like Drake Maye.

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Speaker 1: I like Drake may a lot. You guys, I told

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Speaker 1: you you thought I was crazy. You and I when

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Speaker 1: we disagree on a pick, you've often had a better

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Speaker 1: success than I have. I think you've come to your

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Speaker 1: reality on Drake.

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Speaker 7: I'm the dope who liked Drake may over Jayden Daniels

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Speaker 7: and all last year I got it thrown in my

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Speaker 7: face repeatedly.

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Speaker 6: Now, remember Drake may and North Carolina was awesome.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: That guy threw a deep was just law Member Belichick

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Speaker 1: didn't like his feet. He was raw, but his comp

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Speaker 1: and it was really accurate.

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Speaker 7: Was justin Herbert je Garrodeneo started last season. It was

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Speaker 7: like we're playing our best quarterback and it was like

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Speaker 7: Jacoby Brissett or something, and Drake May sitting here on

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Speaker 7: the bench, like, May is awesome. But again, I think

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Speaker 7: bo Nicks is probably six or seven here.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a criticism, But boon Nicks and Caleb

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Speaker 1: they're just kids. I mean they're young.

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Speaker 6: I get it.

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Speaker 7: So that's why I'm nervous about them. I know you're

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Speaker 7: gassed up about those two. It's going to be a

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Speaker 7: really rough go for May Nicks, Caleb, A lot of

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Speaker 7: first time quarterbacks in the playoffs, Bryce Young. The track

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Speaker 7: record is brutal. The lights are bright, there's tons of tape.

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Speaker 7: The defensive coordinators are elite. I mean, this is going

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Speaker 7: to be a very interesting playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Col I don't.

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Speaker 7: I have no idea who's coming out of the ASC

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Speaker 7: or NC none.

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Speaker 6: I feel confident about the RAMS, But after that, I am.

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Speaker 1: Really you know what really is interesting to me. Everybody

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Speaker 1: loves Rabel. We all know Drake May is good. They're

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Speaker 1: receiving group, which everybody thought was a weakness. Go look

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Speaker 1: at the data on their receiving group solid. Oh solid,

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Speaker 1: it's so average, it's top three and big plays.

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Speaker 2: In the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, day schedule, Kyle will Youhams, Hunter, Henry mccollins. Booty, Booty,

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love Booty. That kid, I love

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Speaker 1: that kid.

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Speaker 6: I love Booty too,