1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm John Tucker. Here 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: are these stories we're following today. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: John, we begin with a look this morning at today's 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: shortened trading session. The SMP is on course for its 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 3: strongest months since February, part of an advance of twenty 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: six percent in twenty twenty four, but uncertainty remains. Wednesday's 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: economic data caused investors to recalibrate their rate cut bets, 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: and looming tariffs or threatened tariffs, at least from the 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: incoming Trump administration, is weighing on specific sectors. As you mentioned, 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: treasury yields fell, the dollar is headed for its biggest 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: weekly loss in three months. New York University professor Emeritith 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 3: Nuriel Rabini Warren's tariffs could have for a broader effect 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: on markets. 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 4: Some of the economic policies of Trump may lead to 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: high economic growth, to being pro business, keeping tax or 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 4: it's low, I mean, but unfortunately many of the other 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: policies are going to have an implication of hiring, inflation 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: and lower economic growth. The first thing he has already 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: announced is going to be tired against Mexico, Kinada, and China. 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 4: And that's only the beginning. 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: And why you Professor Meritis Nuriel Robedi expects traditional haven 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: trades like the popular sixty to forty portfolio will underperform 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: in an inflationary environment. 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 5: Well. 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: The uncertainty of Trump's economic policies, Nathan is causing some 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: movement in currencies. The paes who gained following a call 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: between President Electrump and Mexico's president this week. Trump posted 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: on social media the call is, saying it was productive 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: and that she agreed to stop migration through Mexico. She 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: responded saying that Mexico is not necessarily closing its borders. 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: Bloomberg spoke with DHL Group CEO to Bias Meyer about 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: how businesses are managing it, sting he hasn't seen clear 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: signals that anyone's front running the tariffs, hot to. 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 5: Say, but there's volume in the last weeks. We see 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: that in ocean freight, We see that in air freight. 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 5: The year has been quite volatile. We had very strong 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 5: exports out of China for many weeks on the ocean 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: freight side, especially, so strong growth there, but it has 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 5: been volatile. So it's hard to call out whether there's 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 5: really a strong element of that. 42 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: Dhl' CEO Tobias Meyer says he's seen diversification of supply 43 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: chains in countries like Mexico and elsewhere. 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: In currency moves, John the yen has breached one hundred 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: and fifty against the dollar following inflation data out of Japan. 46 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: Tokyo consumer prices came in hotter than expected, leading to 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 3: increased bets on further policy normalization. It's raised expectations that 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: the Bank of Japan will raise rates in December, with 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: the swaps market factoring in a sixty one percent chance 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: of a rate hike this month and checking the end 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: right now, it is stronger against the dollar one fifty 52 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: point one five. 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: Looking more broadly at markets, Nathan wall Street's macro traders 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: they're heading for their worst year since the pandemic. Let's 55 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: get more on this from Bloomberg's Tiba out of Bio. 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 6: Investor confidence in making big macro calls this year has 57 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 6: dwindled as data surprises have whiplashed bets on central bank 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 6: interest rate cuts, a too close to call us election, 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 6: and the shock unwind of a once popular yen funded 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 6: carry trade also rattled markets. As a result, some two 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty firms, including Goldman, Sachs and JP morgan 62 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 6: A forecast to make seventeen percent less this year from 63 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 6: trading G ten rates and nine percent less for currencies. 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 6: That's according to analytics company Coalition Greenwich. The bright Spot 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 6: currency trading is expected to pick up in twenty twenty 66 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 6: five and twenty twenty six in London tiwa at abayo 67 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 6: Bloomberg Radio all right. 68 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 7: Tiwa, thank you. 69 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: Bitcoin is headed back toward the one hundred thousand level 70 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: as President Elect Trump embraces the broader crypto industry, ballstering 71 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: the upward trend as a group of about a dozen 72 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: US bitcoin ETFs from issuers including black Rock and Fidelity. 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: They've attracted six point two billion dollars so far in 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: that's according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The previous peak 75 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: earlier this year was six billion dollars. In checking bitcoin 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: right now, it's up one point four percent at close 77 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: to ninety six thousand, five hundred. 78 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: And turning back to the US now and a look 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: at to big tech, the Federal Trade Commission announced it's 80 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: open to an anti trust investigation of Microsoft, drilling into 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: everything from the company's cloud computing and software licensing businesses 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: to cyber security offerings and artificial intelligence products. Bloomberg Anti 83 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 2: trust reporter Josh Cisco says this is the first step 84 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 2: and what's expected to be a pretty long process. 85 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 8: It's kind they've been working up to this for about 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 8: a year, doing sort of informal information requests and interviews, 87 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 8: and now this is the first time they've compelled Microsoft 88 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 8: to turn over what will end up being a tremendous 89 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 8: amount of information. 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Josh Cisco says the emptc's investigation could slow in 91 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: a second Trump administration was just promoting more deregulation. 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: And elsewhere in big tech. John Australia has passed a 93 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: law banning children under sixteen from social media platforms like Facebook, 94 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 3: Instagram and TikTok. The tech companies will be responsible for 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: enforcing the ban and will face fines if they don't comply. 96 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: Polling suggests Australian citizens back the move, but some argue 97 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: it will not achieve the aim of protecting children from 98 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: harmful content. Here's Australia's Green Party Senator Sarah Hanson. 99 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Young doesn't actually make social media safer for young people. 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: And that's the devastating thing about this, because we know 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: that there are families who are struggling with this. We 102 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: know there are young people who are struggling with their 103 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: body image, their connection with their community, their peers, young 104 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: people who are finding themselves addicted to these dangerous algorithms. 105 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: But this bill doesn't do. 106 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 5: Any of that. 107 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: Sarah Hanson Young spoke there in the Australian Senate. Meta 108 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: x and other social media platforms have also expressed strong 109 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: opposition to this new law. 110 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: And let's go to geopolitics now. After the US media 111 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: had a cease fire deal between Israel and Lebanon earlier 112 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: this week, there is hope for reaching a deal to 113 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: free hostages held by Hamas in Gaza. Israeli Prime Minister 114 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 2: Binya Benetna, who told Israel's Channel fourteen his government's doing 115 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: many things, as he put it, to advance the freeing 116 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: of the hostages. Met Ye, who says the killing of 117 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: Hamas's leader, yeah, yeswinwar is opening an opportunity to reach 118 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: an agreement. 119 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: And there are new developments as well, John in the 120 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: war in Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin is warning his 121 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: forces could strike decision making centers in Ukraine's capital Kiev 122 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: with new ballistic missiles as retaliation for attacks on Russia 123 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: with Western missiles. Russia launched an experimental intermediate range ballistic 124 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead and says it 125 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: may fire it again in combat. 126 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,119 Speaker 2: And finally, a look at Saudi backed Live Golf, which 127 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: is said to be weighing a possible merger with Europe's 128 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: DP World Tour. If that's successful, it would cement Live 129 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: Golf's position in the golfing calendar and give the DP 130 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: World Tour previously known as the DP European Tour, significant 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: financial haft. The talks come as expectations of a deal 132 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: between the Saudi Public Investment Fund and the PGA Tour 133 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: they edge closer. And that brings us to five o 134 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: eight on Wall Street Time Now for a look at 135 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: some of the other stories making news in New York 136 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: and around the world. Hem For that, we're joined by 137 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Denise Pella Greeney. 138 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 7: Denise, good morning, Good morning to you, John Well. 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 9: Protesters clashed with police in the capital of Georgia in 140 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 9: eastern Europe. That's after the ruling party announced it was 141 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 9: delaying talks with the European Union on the country's potential 142 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 9: membership in the plock for four years. Police used teargas, 143 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 9: pepper spray, physical force early this morning as a group 144 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 9: of people rallied near the Parliament building. Their forty three 145 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 9: people detained, their dozens hurt. Apparently In that story, Notre 146 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 9: Dame Cathedral in France unveiling its new interior five years 147 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 9: after that devastating fire. Today it's a watershed in the 148 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 9: rebirth from its devastating fire in twenty nineteen. The occasion 149 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 9: is French President Emanuel Macron's final visit to the construction 150 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 9: site to see the restored interiors for himself before all 151 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 9: the proceedings today. A messy rollback of pandemic era regulations 152 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 9: in New York City. Many of those outdoor dining sheds 153 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 9: we've been using, they were still standing as of last 154 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 9: night and early this morning. John Monica Jimenez is the 155 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 9: night shift manager at Old John's luncheonet on the Upper 156 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 9: West Side of Manhattan. 157 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: But for our business, no plans to actually take this down, No, 158 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: yea yeah, And. 159 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 9: She says she's not removing them today. The deadline though, 160 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 9: is today Global News twenty four hours a day and 161 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 9: whenever you want it with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Denise Pelaguini, 162 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 9: and this is Bloomberg. 163 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Denise, and that brings us to find 164 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: ten of Wall Street time down for the Bloomberg Sports 165 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: Update being brought to you by Tri State Audi. And 166 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: for that we bring in Bloomberg's band Schwartzman. 167 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 7: Hello Dan, Good morning John. 168 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 10: The Lions got the NFL Thanksgiving Tripleheader off and running 169 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 10: by winning their tenth game in a row to improved 170 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 10: to eleven and one on the season with a twenty 171 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 10: three to twenty win over the Bears, who. 172 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 7: Have now dropped six games in a row. Chicago did 173 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 7: have a chance. 174 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 10: At least tie the game with time running out, but 175 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 10: inexplicably let precious seconds run off the clock despite still 176 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 10: having a time out. 177 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 7: Bears head coach Matt ebra Flusto. 178 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 10: Says he thought the team handled the clock properly at 179 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 10: the end. 180 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I like what we did there. 181 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 11: Again, once it's under seven, you know you're gonna you're 182 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 11: gonna call you know, time out there or actually under twelve, 183 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 11: and then really you don't have an option, you know, 184 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 11: because it's third to fourth, you got to throw it 185 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 11: into the end zone then, So to me, it's uh, 186 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 11: I think we handled it the right way. 187 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 10: Matt's curtsyvespn dot Com Giants are now losers the seventh 188 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 10: straight after the twenty seven to twenty loss to the 189 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 10: Cowboys in Dallas. Drew Locke got the start for the 190 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 10: Giants as Timy Devitos ruled out with an injury. Elsewhere, 191 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 10: Packers dominated the Dolphins thirty to seventeen to Lambo Fields 192 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 10: improved to nine and three on the season as Short 193 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 10: and Love threw for two touchdowns. Both the NBA and 194 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 10: the NHL took the day off for Thanksgiving, but at 195 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 10: full schedules today, with the next starting things off by 196 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 10: visiting the Charlotte Hornets at noon. Elshere, the Brooklyn Nets 197 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 10: are hosting the Orlando Magic. The Boston Celtics are in 198 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 10: Chicago facing the Bulls, where the Lakers are hosting the 199 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 10: Oklahoma City thunder Rangers. They're at the Flyers to start 200 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 10: the busy day off in the NHL, with the Islanders 201 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 10: on the road to the Capitols, while the Bruins are 202 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 10: home for the Pittsburgh Penguins. Other big matchups include Winnipeg 203 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 10: visiting Vegas, Carolina, home for the Florida Panthers, when the 204 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 10: Dallas Stars are hosting Colorado. 205 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 7: In tennis, five time Grand. 206 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 10: Slam winner, second seeded egsh Fiatec accepted a one month 207 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 10: suspension for testing positive for a banned substance. 208 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 7: The former world's. 209 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 10: Number one failed the test back in August, but formerly 210 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 10: admitted the violation this week while accepting her penalty. That's 211 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 10: your Bloomberg Sports update. I'm Dan Schwartzman, Nathan and John. 212 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 7: Coast to coast. 213 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: I'm Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Sirius XM and around the 214 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: world on Bloomberg dot Com and the Bloomberg Business app. 215 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,119 Speaker 7: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 216 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. As we head into a 217 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 3: holiday shortened day of trading on this Black Friday, investors 218 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: might want to be getting as much of a jump 219 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: on the holiday deals as everybody else, but we do 220 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: still have a slew of economic data to tie jest 221 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: before we get into the final trading month of twenty 222 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: twenty four, and as we continue to assess what has 223 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 3: been a remarkable bull run for stocks this year. Joining 224 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: US now. Bloomberg News equities reporter Joe Easton, Joe, good morning. 225 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: It really has been tough to derail the bull this year, 226 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: has it not? 227 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 12: It has indeed, Nathan, and we are potentially looking to 228 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 12: see some small gains continuing that theme in the US 229 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 12: futures today. As you mentioned earlier, is it shortened trading there, 230 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 12: but really the US is out shining. You're once again, 231 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 12: I mean you're at European stocks lower on the day, 232 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 12: but for now we are actually seeing a little bit 233 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 12: of a sentiment change. An interesting note out from Bank 234 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 12: of America today saying that they are upgrading European stocks 235 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 12: while they continue to like the US equity market, they 236 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 12: reckon the conditions in terms of credit conditions here in 237 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 12: Europe are actually getting a bit better, so kind of 238 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 12: changing their view in terms of potentially shifting some more 239 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 12: capital towards at this region. But we really can't keep 240 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 12: up with the gains that we've seen over in the US, 241 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 12: double digit gains over there, of course, whereas in the 242 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 12: Europe we are just seeing small gains on a year 243 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 12: to day basis. 244 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly a lot of the games that we've seen 245 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: this year have been driven by the AI trade. But 246 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: then all this excitement, or at least initially around the 247 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: election of president like Donald Trump, where does the trajectory 248 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: seem to lay here? 249 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, So I think the most recent take is on 250 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 12: Trump's appointments to his cabinet, of course, and potentially the 251 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 12: latest reading is that they might not be as kind 252 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 12: of hawkish in terms of some of their policies in 253 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 12: terms of tariffs in that kind of issue there. So 254 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 12: I think that's what the market's going to be holding 255 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 12: on too. But obviously with that there's an implication for 256 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 12: the dollar and how that impacts the markets going forward. 257 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 12: But in terms of Europe, we do need to see 258 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 12: a bit of an easing in some of the retor 259 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 12: rhetoric around tariffs. We did, of course see that report 260 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 12: earlier this week that we could be getting some harsh 261 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 12: measures from the US and that hit our market. I 262 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 12: think the AI trade, I think it's maybe played a 263 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 12: lot of its course out at the moment, so I'm 264 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 12: not too upbeat on that element. I think a lot 265 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 12: of it is going to come down to the White House, 266 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 12: as you mentioned there. 267 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: Of course, we had that data cornucopia on Wednesday. What's 268 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: the takeaway there, particularly around the personal consumption of expenditures index, 269 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: that might be suggesting that that last mile around disinflation 270 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: indeed can be the toughest. 271 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, no, I think I would agree with that, And 272 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 12: actually you don't want to keep flicking back to Europe, 273 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 12: but given I am here, we have actually just literally 274 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 12: around ten to fifteen minutes ago, got in the Euro 275 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 12: Area inflation and it is kind of showing a similar thing. 276 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 12: We're actually kind of struggling to come down from those levels. 277 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 12: So inflation back above two percent in Europe potentially not 278 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 12: enough to derail the ECB from cutting their interest rate. 279 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 12: That seems to be the take here. So we have 280 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 12: actually seen some bond deals coming down and also the 281 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 12: euro actually weakening very slightly. But I think it's a 282 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 12: similar thing. As you say, it's very hard to get 283 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 12: past that last bit of inflation. All these things tend 284 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 12: to come on lagging effects. We all know that this 285 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 12: will be hurting our bottom lines, our wallets for much 286 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 12: longer in terms of the higher rates on mortgages and 287 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 12: that kind of thing. So I think there's a little 288 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 12: bit left to play on that trade at the moment, 289 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 12: and when it. 290 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: Comes to the possibility of hawkish tariff talk from President 291 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: elect Trump. Does that lead to kind of a budding 292 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: of heads between what we could see on the policy 293 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: front and what we can get from the Federal Reserve? 294 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: Got about a minute lap. 295 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, No, I think that it's going to be the 296 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 12: two forces going pretty much the opposite direction. I mean, 297 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 12: if the FED wants to ease rates and then there 298 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 12: is possible higher inflation coming from these tariffs, and tariffs 299 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 12: are expected to be inflation or of course therefore lifting 300 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 12: the dollar, then it's very difficult for then the Fed 301 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 12: to come in and start really easing their policy further 302 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 12: if there's going to be upside to both the dollar 303 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 12: and inflation more broadly, So therefore it's kind of going 304 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 12: against it. We'll have to see what Trump has to 305 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 12: say more about the actual Fed himself. Obviously, when he 306 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 12: was in power last time, he wasn't afraid to kind 307 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 12: of throw about a bit of criticism on monetary policy. 308 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 12: So we'll see what happens there. But as you say, 309 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 12: it's kind of two really powerful forces pushing in the 310 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 12: opposite direction. 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