1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Let me start with basketball. Last night, I 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: don't know if we ever see Steph Curry in an 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: NBA Finals again, because the Warriors are at the crossroads. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: I thought that they had a great chance to compete 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: for the championship this year if everybody was healthy. Klay 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: Thompson of course is not. But the Warriors are at 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: a crossroads right now. The nucleus of the championship team 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: getting older and they haven't been able to stay healthy. 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: But last night, Steph Curry gave us a not so 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: subtle reminder of what he's capable of. First, he hits 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: the final shot to beat Mike Conley in the three 13 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: point shooting contest. Then he decides to extend his range 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: to half court in the actual game, hitting a couple 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: of multi, multi long distance bombs. And he's had such 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: a huge impact on the sport. And you've heard me 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: talk about this. I think he's the most influential basketball 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: player as far as the playing of the game in 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: the last thirty years. And yes that factors in Michael 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: Jordan and Lebron James. Everybody shoots threes, everybody thinks they 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: can shoot threes, and they're going deeper and deeper and deeper. 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: But Curry's the og and he shooting from the logo. 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: Jerry West, maybe the logo. Steph shoots from the logo. 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: And last night he reminded everybody's the best shooter of 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: all time. And I know it sounds like hyperbole or 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: recency bias, but the numbers back it up. He's a 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: player for the history books and it's a joy to 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: watch him while we still can at the top of 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: his game. He didn't have to take part in the 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: three point shooting contest. I think this was steph way 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: of saying, I don't know this, but just my feeling. Hey, 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: don't forget about me. We might not be playing for championships, 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: we may not be on national TV anymore. Last year 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: bad year, but hey, I'm still around and he should 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: have been the MVP last night. The Greek Freak was 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: sixteen of sixteen, and you know, I get it's an 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: all star game. He banked in a couple of threes. 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: It's happened before where you've had a player have a 39 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: perfect game. Will Chamberlain did it twice. He went eighteen 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: for eighteen one game, and he went sixteen for sixteen 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: one game. Back then, they actually played a little more 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: defense back in the sixties. In the All Star Game 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: last night, it just basically sort of an and one game, 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: but fun to watch. Damian Lillard is fascinating as well. 45 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: I love watching Steph. But it's strange to say, if 46 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: a game was on the line and you said, all right, 47 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: I got somebody who's got to hit a big shot, 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: I might lean towards Damian Lillard. May sound blasphemous after 49 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: what I said about Steph Curry, but Damian Lillard just 50 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: has something that there's always going to be a chip 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: on his shoulder always because he you know, didn't wasn't 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: heavily recruited. Weaver stayed, had a nice tournament run, went 53 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: an All Star, and I think his fourth year in 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: the league. He plays in Portland. People forget about him, 55 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: not on national TV. Man it comes to Daggers. He's 56 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: not afraid and he loves the moment, and so does 57 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Steph Curry. But I want to give credit to both 58 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: of them because I think they're fabulous players. I think 59 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: Dame gets left out of the picture a little bit there, 60 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: but you know, he's one of those guys when you 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: watch you go it's right, Steph, you don't go, oh, 62 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I remember he can shoot really well. But watching last night, 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: it was just I'm gonna give Lebron credit for being 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: a great GM as he you know, those were his 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: picks to be able to build the team, and you 66 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: could tell there's certain players who just sort of wanted 67 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: to be out there, but didn't really want to be 68 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: out there. Luca was just sort of, hey, I'll pass 69 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: the ball. Lebron was passing the ball. Chris Paul wanted 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that people remember that Chris Paul is 71 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer and can play at a very 72 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: high level. Had sixteen assist last night. But it was fun. 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's back and forth. It's a shame that 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: you didn't have Joe Llnbad Ben Simmons able to play. 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: You nearly had a barber who took down the Super Bowl, 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: and you nearly had a barber taking down the All 77 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: Star Game with Joe Ellenbad and Ben Simmons. We'll come 78 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: up with a poll question. Got a play of the day, 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: got a couple of stats of the day as well, 80 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: got a little information on Russell Wilson to share with you. 81 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: Not much, but something interesting. Also. I just got this 82 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: from Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network. The storyline to 83 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: follow going forward is if the official salary cap number 84 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: doesn't come today and soon, the NFL will have to 85 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: move back the trade the tag deadline franchise tag deadline 86 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: to Tuesday from Tuesday to I'll get it right, that 87 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be on Tuesday, they'll have to move 88 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: it back from Tuesday. It's a situation several GM they're 89 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: racing for, according Dan Rappaport, and would further stall business 90 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: for a bit. But tomorrow is the deadline to franchise 91 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: Tag A player. Mcloban, what do you have for me today? Okay? 92 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: All Star weekend question? Would you rather win the three 93 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: point Contest, the Dunk Contest or the All Star Game MVP? 94 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: I would rather win the All Star Game MVP because 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: you're an All Star. Yeah, I mean you're playing against everybody. 96 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: Not everybody was in the three point shooting contest, and 97 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: nobody knew who was in the dunk contest. How can 98 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: you have somebody in the dunk contest who doesn't have 99 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: a dunk this year? Cashus Stanley was in the dunk contest. 100 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a dunk this year. Yeah, mcloban. But 101 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: Curry won both. What could have won both? So he 102 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: almost had the choice. See. I don't think anyone ever remembers. 103 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: I can't name another All Star Game mvp'. Well we 104 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: do remember the three point shooting contest back when Larry 105 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Bird put up his crooked finger. He you know, famously 106 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: said to everybody who's who's playing for second in the 107 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: locker room prior to the start of that. I don't 108 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: know who won it last year. I feel like Jannis 109 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: has never missed a shot in the All Star Game. 110 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: Hip probably him? U. No, we not in the three 111 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: point No, I'm talking about three point shooting contest. Oh 112 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: last year, buddy heeled, I heard them says, okay, yeah, yeah, 113 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: Now the Greek freak should not be shooting threes. He 114 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: should not. And the more I watched him last night, 115 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: the more I don't want him on the perimeter. I 116 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: would just set him low and just say go, just turn. 117 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: Nobody can guard him down low on the perimeter. Take 118 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: the jumper all day. Now. I know that he uses 119 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: that sort of to get to the hoop. But you 120 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: know at some point somebody is going to go Not 121 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: everybody should be shooting threes. How About we dominate down low. 122 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: How About we get you in foul trouble. How About 123 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: we take advantage of the skill set of our players 124 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: instead of everybody's got a shoot of three. I will 125 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: say this, and I did think this last night. Steph 126 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: Curry probably made life really really difficult for some grade 127 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: school coaches, some high school coaches, some college coaches after 128 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: last night's performance, because I could just about guarantee you 129 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: at today's practices with these kids, they're all going to 130 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: be shooting out there. All you have to do is 131 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: go to a game fifth grade or sixth graders. They 132 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: are launching it. There's none of this get the ball inside. 133 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be Steph Curry and watching those shots 134 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: last night, first thing I thought of is those aren't 135 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: easy shots from from a strength perspective. Damian Lillard and 136 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Steph Curry are not big guys, but they're shooting jumpers there. 137 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: It used to be a half court heave. We would 138 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: use the word heave. I'm surprised when they miss and 139 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: if you go out just to the court even if 140 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: you can't get the shot up there, just go out 141 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: and go back to where they're shooting from and realize 142 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: that's a special, special trait. What else do you have 143 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: with Clevin Okay, Blake Griffin and that's the favorite in 144 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: the East or overall? Which is a better poll question? Well, 145 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if Blake Griffin makes them, you know, 146 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: changes anything. As far as are they the favorites. I 147 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: would put them as the favorites right now in the NBA, 148 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: but that's because I don't know Anthony Davis. Is he 149 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: going to be in and out of the lineup the 150 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: rest of the season second half. I still like what 151 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: the seventy sixers they're doing, but I think in fairness 152 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: to Doc Rivers and that team, I want to see 153 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: are they going to be consistent second half of the 154 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: season ready to go in the postseason? You know, it 155 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: comes down to the nets. Is everybody going to stay healthy? 156 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of depth, but they they 157 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: obviously have, you know, three powerful players there, and look, 158 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: I think Kyrie Irving can be wacky, but I also 159 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: think he can be stunningly brilliant as a basketball player 160 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: that handles the best handle I've ever seen it is 161 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: and now there's there's a lot of players who have 162 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: had great handles. You know, Iverson had a great handle, 163 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: uh Mak muld abdul Ry Wolf had a great handle. 164 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean there's so many players in the history of 165 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: the game. Kyrie in traffic, that ability in small spaces 166 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: second to none, and there is that all that's right. 167 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: Ye can be spectacular, but this is going to come 168 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: down to everybody stays healthy. It comes down to Kevin Durant. 169 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: If Durant's healthy. With James Harden in the East, I 170 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: still like their chances to get to the NBA Finals 171 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: with Kyrie playing like Kyrie circa a couple of years 172 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: ago when they beat Golden State. Yeah, then I like 173 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: what the nets are doing. Blake Griffin is only thirty one, 174 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: and I say only thirty one. He came into the 175 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: league he was twenty. But he's an old thirty one. 176 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he's dunked in a game in over 177 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: two years. How is that possible. That's what he was 178 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: known for, and he came out he was explosive, but 179 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: he got injured his first year. But he came out 180 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma and I remember We had him on maybe 181 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: after his freshman year. During his freshman year, and he 182 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: had that ability where you said, if he gets a 183 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: mid range jumper, he's going to be unstoppable. And then 184 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: he kind of moved out to the three point line 185 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: as everybody does. But now he goes to the nets. 186 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what he can give the nets. It's 187 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: it sounds good, looks good on paper. But when's the 188 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: last time you talked about Blake Griffin doing anything on 189 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: the basketball floor? Been a long time? Yeah, point. Blake's 190 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: first five years in the pros, he was a five 191 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: time All Star. He attempted less than half a three 192 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: per game. He never took threes. Two years ago in Detroit, 193 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,479 Speaker 1: he was averaging seven three point attempts per game. Seven. Yeah, 194 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: what are his numbers in Detroit? Hey, this year he's 195 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: savaging about thirty minutes the game, twelve points and five rebounds. Yeah, yeah, 196 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: I guess it's a nice pick up. He hasn't played deal, 197 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: it'll be a perfect net. Yeah. Yeah, forget Blake, But 198 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: how did you know? You say Kyrie's a great ballhailer. 199 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: Show is James Harden, so is Kevin Durrett. But how 200 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: does that all together. I still don't totally get it 201 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: because there's only one ball, so well, they can't all 202 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: handle it well. Kyrie, to me, is the interesting one 203 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: to watch because he's the two guard. Now Harden is 204 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: your point guard. He will pass, you know, Kyrie may 205 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: not have to pass as much or be expected to 206 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: pass as much. How does the guy who has the 207 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: ball that much average five assists a game that I 208 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: don't understand. But Katie, it feels like there's a common 209 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: goal that they have that it's not one of those 210 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: identity crisis where I got to be a star, who's 211 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: the star who's taken the last shot? As long as 212 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: you don't have the egos that clash, then it'll all 213 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: work together. I think they'll actually go out and have 214 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: fun playing basketball, because a lot of times I can't 215 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: imagine playing for Greg Popovich is fun. I mean, there's 216 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: certain coaches where I go that's not fun. Doc Rivers, 217 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I'd probably have some fun there. Steve Nash probably have 218 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: some fun there. But you want to have fun or 219 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: do you want to win? And that's where they have 220 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: to make sure that, hey, the common goal is to win, 221 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: not treat every night as an All Star Game. Yes, 222 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: So where does Steve Kurfitt? Is he more the fun 223 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: or the Popovich guy? Oh? He's fun because of their 224 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: style of offense. Well that's what you want, Yes, you want. 225 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: I heard the jealousy when you're talking about the range 226 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: kids are shooting with these days. Well, who wouldn't want that? Right? 227 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to play for the Golden State? If 228 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: you know you're allowed to shoot, you got to make 229 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: him though. I mean there are a lot of somebody 230 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: will say, man, that guy's a great shooter, and I'll go, 231 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: is he a great maker? That's what I want to know, 232 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: because I was a great shooter. 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It's NFL, and I could 242 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: save it, but I want to poll question around, do 243 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: you value first round picks if you're trying to get 244 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: a guy like Deshaun Watson or Russell Wilson, they're just 245 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: out the window, right Yeah. If you can get your guy, 246 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: get your guy. That's why when I looked at this 247 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: package with the Chicago Bears of what they might offer, 248 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: because I learned yesterday the four teams that are on 249 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: Russell's list are not getting phone calls back. At least 250 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: I was told by you know, somebody with one of 251 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: the teams or like, we've called, we don't get any 252 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: calls back. So not like you know, the Bears go, hey, 253 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: we're going off your Khalil Mack, Nick Foles and a 254 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: couple of draft picks here. They haven't. It's like playing tennis, 255 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: but there's nobody at the other side. You're going, hey, 256 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: I I'd hit it back to you. Are you gonna 257 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: call us? But do if I'm Seattle, I don't want 258 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, I don't want Nick Foles. I don't want 259 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: a scattering smattering of a first round or second round. 260 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't give me younger, cheaper people and give me 261 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: some draft picks here, Like, why would I do if 262 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm the Bears? What can I possibly give you? Just 263 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: tell us what you want? That's what I That's where 264 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I would start if I'm the Bears. But if I'm Seattle, 265 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Like why am I trading him to Chicago where he 266 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: wants to go? And we're not getting what we really 267 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: need here? I mean, do you think Pete Carroll at 268 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: age sixty nine goes Nick Foles? Hey, they want a 269 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: super Bowl in Philly? He doesn't want to do a rebuild, 270 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna get Khalil Mack. No, it doesn't 271 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: make sense at all. The teams that make sense are 272 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: the teams that are not on Russell Wilson's list, the 273 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: Jets and the Dolphins. I can get Sam Darnold, and 274 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: I can get draft picks. I can get tah I 275 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: can get draft picks. You gotta look at we always 276 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: look at it from one angle, like, hey, Russ with 277 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: the Bears, would they be super Bowl contenders? Yeah? I 278 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: mean wishful reporting. How about we look at it from 279 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: Seattle's perspective? Thirty nine million dollars cap hit, who's our quarterback? 280 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: Geno Smith? And you're gonna give me some draft picks 281 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: that we gave up to get Jamal Adams, I wouldn't 282 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: do it. But if you said to me Pete Carroll 283 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: or John Schneider, their gm to the Jets. Not that 284 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Russell wants to go to the Jets, at least I 285 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: don't think he does. What will you give us? Give 286 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: you Sam Darnold, give you the second pick overall, we'll 287 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: give you Quinnon Williams, and we'll give you two other 288 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: first round draft picks. Okay, Now, if I'm Seattle, all right, 289 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: I got my quarterback in Zach Wilson, no relation to Russ. 290 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: I got a rookie contract here. I'm good. But that's 291 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: not going to happen. Yeah, mclovin, Well, it's a little 292 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 1: tricky with Miami in New York. Do you want Darnold 293 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: and do you want to or do you just want 294 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: to draft a guy and not have to deal with 295 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: like a two headed situation. Well I have to consider 296 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: both if I'm Seattle. But it's not happening because Russell 297 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: has a no trade clause. He's not going to the Jets. 298 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: He's not going to the Dolphins. I don't think he's 299 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: going anywhere. I truly believe this year he plays in Seattle. Also, 300 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: keep an eye on free agency. Does Seattle do anything 301 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: for Russell? And if they don't, then what happens? Do 302 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: they go out and sign some linemen? Usually what they 303 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: do is they sort of wait for line to become available. 304 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily go out and get those linemen. Do 305 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: they draft them? I don't know, but that to me 306 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: is the key with Russell Wilson moving forward is what 307 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: do they do in free agency? And I don't know 308 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: what Seattle's philosophy is, but it feels like that philosophy 309 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: is whatever Pete Carroll wants to do, because Pete Carroll 310 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: answers to no one in that organization. And this might 311 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: come down to a clash of egos personalities with Russell 312 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Wilson and Pete Carroll. We may find that out after 313 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: the fact that those two what started out as a 314 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: wonderful story where Pete goes, hey, we just signed Matt Flynn, 315 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: we overpaid, we drafted you, You're our starting quarterback. And 316 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: then we saw what happened after that. Do I think 317 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: Russ is there after the following season? I do not. 318 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: This season, I do Thanks for listening to The Dan 319 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 320 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine 321 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 322 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, 323 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 324 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: by searching f s R, or stream us live on 325 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 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It doesn't play defense. 335 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: He hasn't dunk since twenty nineteen. He shoots some threes. 336 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: He's only thirty one. I guess he gives them a 337 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: little more spacing on the offensive end and a bench guy, serviceable, 338 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: big guy. You know when they lost Jared Allen, you 339 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: know you lost that rim protector. Blake Griffin's not that 340 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: rim protector, but you know it sounds impressive. You got 341 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: Blake Griffin. Howard Beck, Sports Illustrated senior writer co host 342 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: of The Crossover podcast, joining us on the program. Howard, 343 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: let me start with that. Give me the logic behind 344 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: the nets picking up Blake Griffin. Good morning, Dan, listen. 345 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: I think let me address what's not the logic behind it. 346 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: This is not the Nets loading up on you yet 347 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: another All Star to join Kyrie and James Harden and 348 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: Kadi and DeAndre Jordan. People are talking about five years ago. 349 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: Could you imagine these guys altogether? Yeah, yeah, five years ago. 350 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: These guys weren't the same guys, well three of them more. 351 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's not that guy anymore, and Blake Griffin's not 352 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: the guy that he was when he was playing with 353 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan for the Lob City in LA. We have 354 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: a very small sample size, Dan, of what Blake Griffin 355 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: did in Detroit this season, and I'm wavering between looking 356 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: at that sample size and saying, wow, I think Blake 357 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: Griffin might be done. Versus Blake Griffin is on a young, 358 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: rebuilding team in which he is no longer a focal 359 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: point at all, and they've got nothing to play for. 360 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: And maybe there's a second wind for Blake Griffin with 361 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: a team that matters, and he's joining one now. But 362 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: I will tell you Dan about a month ago, when 363 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: all the chatter first started about they're gonna try to 364 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: trade Blake Griffin, which was never realistic, They're gonna cut 365 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: him loose, whatever's gonna happen. I checked him with some 366 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: scouts and they basically said, look, it's painful to watch him. 367 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: I can't watch him. It's he's that far from what 368 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: he was. What can he still do. He's a really 369 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: good passer for a big he can hit the mid 370 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: range shot. He's a good mid range shooter when he's 371 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: got his lift, when his legs are there. I just 372 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: don't know what's left after all the injuries he's been through. 373 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, thirty one is young for this, even in 374 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: this league, but as you know, Blake Griffin has just 375 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: been through so much in terms of surgeries at injuries, 376 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know what's left. I honestly don't. But 377 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: the nets were really thin in the front court and 378 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: now they're a little less than Watching the game last night, 379 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: everybody loves the three. And I went back and I 380 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: asked stats Inc. Could I get a summary of the 381 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: game of how many layups and dunks and how many threes? 382 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: How many mid range jumpers were there last night? There 383 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: was one mid range jumper last night. Can you see 384 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: a scenario, though, Howard, where somebody who's going to be 385 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: counterintuitive to the three and all of a sudden just go. 386 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: We want you to deal with our strength, which might 387 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: be low post. You know that you actually use a 388 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: big man as a big in or are we you know, 389 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: we're I don't want to say stuck with the three, 390 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: but you know the three is going to be around 391 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: a long long time. Yeah. I mean, the emphasis on 392 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: the three dan is not going away. The continued shift 393 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: toward the three ball over mid range is not going away. 394 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't know where we top out. Um Kirk Goldsbury 395 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: ESPN has a phenomenal book on this called Sprawball, where 396 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: he talks about the logical extremes and whether this eventually 397 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: has to lead to any number of potential solutions right, 398 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: moving the three point line even further back, I mean, 399 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: people like adding the four point line whatever that. I'm 400 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: not sure if that solves the quote the problem. But 401 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: what if we removed it. If we removed it entirely, 402 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: you would have a jammed up court and a boring game, 403 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: and you wouldn't have people slashing to the hoop anymore, 404 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: and nobody would watch out. We're not going back. And 405 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: the thing is, there are skilled two point mid range 406 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: guys in this league. Kawhi, Leonard, Devin Booker, Zach Levine, 407 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, pretty much, actually all of the elite scorers. 408 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: Most of them are really good in the mid range. 409 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: Maybe not James Harden, but a lot of these guys 410 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: are really good there. But the fact is, if you're 411 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: great in the mid range but the other team is 412 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: is just a little bit less good from three point range, 413 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: as you know, you're gonna keep losing ground. So as 414 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: long as somebody's shooting a lot of threes, if the 415 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: other team has taken forty three's and you're taking ten 416 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: out of some principles stand in favor of the mid range, 417 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. Because math, why do you think Steph 418 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: Curry answered the three point shooting contests because why not. 419 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: Listen my colleague Michael Penie's at SI, I thought, like 420 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: a month ago had the best idea about the All 421 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: Star Game, which was just send the All Stars and 422 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: then have the All Stars do all of the events, 423 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: in which case maybe we would have finally gotten Lebron 424 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: the dunk contest. Probably not, but maybe Zion maybe. I 425 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: think this was this is efficiency, this was let's try 426 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: to invite as few extra bodies as possible. And Steph 427 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: is an obvious candidate, and Steph says he I'm there anyway, 428 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: We're doing it all the same day. Sure, why not? 429 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my guest, Howard. We got to get 430 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: rid of the skills competition because it feels like it's 431 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: a white guy event. You know, hey, who can throw 432 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: a European white guy and you got a crisp pass 433 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: that you're going to throw into a net. You're going 434 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 1: to drill around some cones and then somebody maybe will 435 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: bank into three. I used to do those drills at 436 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: summer camp. It was not called as skills competition. Howard. 437 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: It is not good. I wrote this because they asked 438 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: us to predict all the events, which is a kind 439 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: of a goofy exercise in and of itself. And my 440 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: line on the skills competition was the fun fact I 441 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: have never watched, and Dan, I'm happy to tell you 442 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: I did not break my streak last night. I still 443 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: do not. I turned it on just in time to 444 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: see Sabonus accepting the trophy, and I went, oh, darn, 445 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: I missed it again. Yeah, I watched. I watched, and 446 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: then I kept going, this isn't really great skills competent. 447 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: I think we think, well, there's a seven footer out there. 448 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: What we're well passed? A seven footer who can handle 449 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: the ball, pass the ball, and shoot the ball. That's 450 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: the whole league. Yes, yeah, that's the whole league. Now. 451 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: The fact is the only event that you can count 452 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: on year in and year out to be interesting, watchable 453 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: fun is the three point shootout. It is like that 454 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: one is bulletproof, Dan. Yeah, the game itself the All 455 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: Star game most years. The dunk contest last night was terrible, 456 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: and it's every once every four or five years we 457 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: get one that's so electric that we go, Okay, it's back. 458 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: We don't have to kill it. And then a year 459 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: like this, we go, maybe we're out of ideas for 460 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: the dunk contest and yeah, the skills competition is just useless. 461 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: And if Lebron had been in the dunk contest, then 462 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: I know the critics would say, oh, I thought you 463 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: were going to conserve your energy. Why aren't you conserving 464 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: your energy? I don't you let the young guys have 465 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: this stage. Lebron couldn't win. If he slipped into the 466 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: Dunk contest, it would have been awesome, but the critics 467 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: would have come out and said, should you be doing that? 468 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: Shouldn't you conserve your energy? Let somebody else have this 469 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: spotlight Lebron? Yeah, maybe. I think at this point people 470 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: would have just been thrilled just to see him finally 471 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: do it. But I also, you're not going to do 472 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: it in you're eighteen at thirty six, like the window 473 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: for Lebron to have done that closed quite a while ago. 474 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: And I think that's the part of the problem is 475 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: that the stars of today only see downside. It's well, 476 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: I'm you entered the league on day one as a superstar, 477 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: with all these expectations and all this hype and everything. 478 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: What happens if you get beaten by you know, Anthony Simons, 479 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: you know Cashus Stanley, like, you don't want to put 480 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: yourself in that position. And so I think that's why 481 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: we don't see the superstars do it anymore as we 482 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: did back in the day with Jordan or years later 483 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: with Kobe. He's Howard Beck. He covers the league. Sports 484 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: Illustrated senior writer handicapped the second half of the season. 485 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: And let's assume Anthony Davis is healthy. Are the Lakers 486 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: when healthy better than the Nets when healthy? Oh that's 487 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: a spicy question and a relevant one. I mean, listen, 488 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: We've got at least a dozen ten Maybe I don't 489 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 1: know different possible combinations, because I think there are four 490 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: or five teams that could come out of each conference, 491 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: certainly in the West, maybe three in the East. If 492 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: it's Nets versus Lakers, I'm still leaning Lakers because we 493 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: know they can defend, and because I don't know what 494 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: the Nets are doing with Anthony Davis. Now listen to 495 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: our earlier discussion. If Anthony Davis is crushing it at 496 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: the rim, but James Harden and Kyrie Kevin Durant are 497 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: raining threes, math might favor the Nets. Anyway, But can 498 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: the Nets deal with Anthony Davis? No, Now, Kevin Durant 499 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: has some experience playing against le Bron in the finals, 500 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: and those two will check each other well. But you 501 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: know that because that's the first question I have to 502 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: every time it's the hypothetical, what about the Jazz versus 503 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: the Lakers? Can the Jazz make the final? What are 504 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: they doing with Lebron and Anthony Davis? Like, that's the 505 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: first question for every opponent. The Nets are so potent offensively, 506 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: and if they just ratched up the defense to a 507 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: respectable level and could place them in the fourth quarter, 508 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: Because if the Nets are within ten points of view 509 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, you may already be in trouble 510 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: because all they have to do is decide to play 511 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: defense for about five minutes and just you know, rain 512 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: threes on you. They're unguardable. They're absolutely unguardable, and they 513 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: have just enough role players who can benefit and hit 514 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: open threes that trying to guard Durant, Harden and Irving 515 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: at the same time is an impossibility. I was looking 516 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: at the numbers going into the All Star break points 517 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: per game League one one hundred and twelve points per 518 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: game is what it's being averaged. That's the highest since 519 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine when it was one hundred and fifteen 520 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: points a game. I tune in and I can watch 521 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: a game not going into overtime and somebody's got one 522 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: hundred and forty points towered, and like, I go, I 523 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: remember when when the Knicks and the cat Remember when 524 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: Fortello and pat Riley nearly ruin the game when they 525 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: were getting those first team to ninety when Riley was 526 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: with the Knicks and Fortello with the Calves, and I went, 527 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, look at this. You can get that 528 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: almost at a halftime. It feels like in these NBA games, 529 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: is it too much of a good thing? Well, I'll 530 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: say this, No one's nostalgic for Mike Fortello and pat 531 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Riley routing the game and slowing things down and having like, 532 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, seventy to sixty seven finals scores. I mean, 533 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: some people are nostalgic for that. NBA I don't know 534 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: why they are. Are we too far as the pendulum 535 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: swam too far in the other direction? I think the 536 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: league asks itself that question all the time. I like, 537 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: there's some really smart people at Olympic Tower who are 538 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: constantly wondering about this and thinking about it. And the 539 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: earlier discussion we had about how how far does this 540 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: three point binge go? Does it hit a logical extreme 541 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: where it warps the game too much and we have 542 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: to try to recalibrate and how do you do that? 543 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: I think they're thinking about that all the time. I 544 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: don't think we're at a crisis point yet with the NBA. 545 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: I think the ratings have bounced back really well this year, 546 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: and you know, last year was you know, obviously a 547 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: weird year with the pandemic, the bubble basketball in the summer, 548 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff, And so as long as people are watching, 549 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: as long as the game is fun, I think we're okay. 550 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: There are always going to be some basketball purists who 551 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: feel like scores are too high, there's not enough mid range, 552 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: there's not enough of you know, diversity within the offense. Fine, 553 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: but if people are watching, you know, and the revenue 554 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: is still pouring in, I think they're just going to 555 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: continue on this course. Howard, great to talk to you. 556 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. We'll check in with you during 557 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. Thank you always. Pleasure 558 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: to Dan. Thank you that's Howard Becks. We're till the 559 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: strated senior writer, co host of the Crossover podcast, sirius 560 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: XM NBA Radio Analyst. Thanks for listening to The Dan 561 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 562 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 563 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 564 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 565 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Brad Biggs covers the Bears. He's an 566 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: NFL columnist and he joins us on loan from the 567 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: Chicago Tribune. Brad, let me start when you first the 568 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: city learned that Russell Wilson put the Bears on the list. 569 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: What was the reaction locally to the Bears being in 570 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: the final four? Dan, that was the biggest quarter I knew, 571 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: was that Bearers had, you know, that's quarterback the dolament 572 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: to come along onto them A long time have to 573 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: be for them. Can we hold on, Brad, because I 574 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: got a you got a little bit of an echo there. 575 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: Let me see if we can fix that. I don't 576 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: know if you have a volume up on your end 577 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: with your computer, but uh, we'll see if we can 578 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: work on that. Yeah, Paul. See, I told you when 579 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to Bears and quarterbacks, things go wrong 580 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: around it. You know, even the zoom call can't be connected, 581 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: right do they talk about things? That's like sort of 582 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: bouncing around the echo chamber in Chicago right now, that's 583 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: sort of let me try it again, Brad. How's it sound. 584 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: I think I think we're gonna have to wait a 585 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: little while longer. Let me see, Brad does that sounding? No, 586 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: we have to wait. We can't go to him right now. Oh, right, 587 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: then we'll hold on, yeah, and then we'll go to 588 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: him later. Yes, just like the Bears may have to 589 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: wait for a solution at quarterback. MM. By way, we 590 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: could ask Brabo, who's the quarterback? If not Russell Wells, 591 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: they run him falls back. I don't know. I don't 592 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: know how that's going to work there. Uh, let me 593 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: go to get a couple of phone calls here and 594 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: we'll see if we can re establish a better connection 595 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: off in Detroit. Hi, Jeff, follow la motherfuck is doing 596 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: a bad Jeff? You're gonna go ahead and drop Jeff? Yeah, 597 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: the hell's going on? I don't know. I thought we 598 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: were rolling here. Yeah, Paul, I'm saying this again. You 599 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: dipped your toe into Bears quarterback history and stay at 600 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: the Bears quarterbacks and everything. Just call it crumbles. Should 601 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: I try another phone call here? If it's unless it's 602 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: mister Trubisky, nothing's gonna work. Um Austin and Illinois. Hey Austin, 603 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Dan? Good morning? First time, 604 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: long time calling about the University of Illinois fighting a 605 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: line and the Big Ten criteria to determine the conference champion. 606 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: Illinois sitting at sixteen and four Michigan fourteen and three. 607 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: Michigan holds the percentile eight to four Illinois eight hundred. However, 608 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: in the win loss column, Illinois is up a half 609 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: game with the owning the owning the head to have 610 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: Illinois being Michigan, do they have any right to claim 611 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: I share the title? Oh? I don't know sure, why not? 612 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm not in a fighting mood today, Austin. But Illinois 613 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: did role Michigan that was impressive. Didn't even have your 614 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: best player? Yeah, pull, people are fired up about the Alni. 615 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: It's been a while, it's been a long time. Yeah. 616 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: They had once every decade, don't they? Yeah? Yeah? But 617 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: the the d Brown team Darren William Williams. Yeah, I 618 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: think we need to set a ruling on how much 619 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: PAULI can claim ownership of the Illinois too. It's once 620 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: a decade, I mentioned. Yeah, but you were a little 621 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: late this year. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair, and for 622 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: a good reason. I get it. And you went to 623 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: Southern Illinois, right and I would grew up actually at 624 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: the Paul fan. I was the Paul basketball fan. Yeah, 625 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: it's been a while for them. Yeah, I don't know 626 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: if I can let you go all in on. How 627 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: about they have to make the Final four, Final four, 628 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: then you can talk about Illinois basketball. Brad Biggs is 629 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: back covering the Chicago Bears for the Chicago Tribune. Brad, 630 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: before we were rudely interrupted. The reaction to the city 631 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: when you realize that you're on Russell Wilson's Final four. Yeah, 632 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: I think it was a huge development. Bears fans were 633 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: fired up. The hope for not only the fans but 634 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: the team has to be that the Bears being on 635 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: this list of four teams that the agent shared with 636 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter isn't the highlight of their quarterback developments for 637 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: this offseason. Because of it has been there. It will 638 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: probably be disappointment for the Chicago Bears at Hollis Hall 639 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: as they try to solve the seven decade quests to 640 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: replace Sid Luckman. But yeah, I'm Danny Downer today because 641 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: I don't think this happens with the Bears. I don't 642 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: think Russ has traded this year. But it's it's wishful 643 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: reporting that we have. There's a lot of hope there. 644 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: The realist possibility that Russell Wilson is the Chicago Bears 645 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: is what a Chicago Bear is what well, I don't 646 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,959 Speaker 1: think the odds are great for the Bears. I don't 647 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: because you can come up with a list of reasons 648 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: why it makes sense for the Bears. From now until 649 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: the end of your show today, we could bang our 650 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: heads against the wall to come up for motivating factors 651 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks to do this trade. Seattle has been 652 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: a perennial contender with Russell Wilson on the roster every season. 653 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: The Seahawks are in the mix at the minimum in 654 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: the NFC West, in the conference in a shot to 655 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: buy for a Super Bowl. Berth take him off that roster. 656 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what they have and I don't know 657 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: how they replace him in a trade with the Bears. 658 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: And obviously the Bears can't give Seattle a quarterback that 659 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: makes them a contender. Nick Foles won't check that box 660 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: for them, so they'd have to make a separate move 661 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: then to acquire the replacement. And I just don't see it. 662 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean, what would lead Pete Carroll down that path? 663 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: I have a hard time envisioning it. I'm with you. 664 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: What about Deshaun Watson that possibility a month ago? That 665 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: was the topic in Chicago. Yeah, Well, I think what 666 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: separates the two guys is that Wilson's camp has come 667 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: out and put Chicago on a list of just a 668 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: few teams. Both of the quarterbacks have a no trade clause, 669 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: so they can kind of pick and choose a potential destination. 670 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 1: No one has publicly linked the Bears to Watson besides 671 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: Bears fans right to this point, so I think that's 672 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: the big difference there. The Houston situation is completely discombabulated 673 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if anyone has a good 674 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: guess when there could be some movement or a development there. 675 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: Both sides are really dug in, So I think that's 676 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: what separates the two. Sure, the Bears and Ryan Pace 677 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: should call Nick Kissario and the Texans two or three 678 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: times a week and tell Houston, tells them to buzz off. 679 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: But I don't know that that's a realistic possibility for 680 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: the Bears either. And again the same thing. How do 681 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: the Bears swing a trade with Houston that puts the 682 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 1: Texans in position to replace their twenty five year old 683 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: star quarterback. The Bears can't, can't do that. But you 684 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: know how this works, though, Brad, We always look at 685 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: one side of a trade. We don't look at the 686 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: other side, which is what is Seattle getting back? What 687 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: would the Texans get back? It's Hey, the Bears with 688 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, are they a Super Bowl contender? And I 689 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: always go, well, yeah, they probably would be. But let's 690 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: get back to reality here, and what is plan B 691 00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: if you don't land a quarterback via a trade. Yeah, 692 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: that's where you know, I've said it's going to plan C. 693 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: If you have Wilson and Watson in some order as 694 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: A or B, you go to Plan C. The most 695 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: intriguing guy to me for the Bears in that scenario 696 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: might be Jamis Winston. Drew Brees is yet to retire. 697 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: If Drew Brees somehow returns to the Saints, I would 698 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: think that would put Jamis in play for a bunch 699 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: of these quarterback needy teams and make him an interesting candidate. 700 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: Is Ryan Fitzpatrick going to continue his career? Will Marcus 701 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: Mariotta be cut and put him in a position where 702 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: you don't have to trade to acquire him from Las Vegas? 703 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: Could they have interest in trying to rehab Sam Darnald? 704 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: That Sam Darnold would be a risky proposition for the 705 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: Bears from the standpoint that the GM Ryan Pace and 706 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: the coach Matt Naggie, they're under pressure to win this season. 707 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: The word that ownership used was the needed to see 708 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: progress after consecutive eight and eights. It was another p 709 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: word in there, it's playoffs is what it is? Not progress? Well, 710 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: well they got they got to the playoffs this year. Dan, 711 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: They've got to either win in the playoffs or get 712 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: into the playoffs with a much better record than eight 713 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: and eight when they when they actually backed into the thing. 714 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: Is Mitchell truebisky, bad or just not good enough? He's 715 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: just he needs he needs a fresh start elsewhere and 716 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: the Bears need a fresh start, and and you know, 717 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: we probably need some new voices. Uh in his ear too. 718 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: He works hard, he's diligent. It didn't happen here. He's 719 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: got a good record. He's twenty nine and twenty one 720 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: as a starter. That's a that's a pretty good level 721 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: of experience for a guy that has been in the 722 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: league for four years. But but I think he's going 723 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: to benefit from a change of scenery. But imagine if 724 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: the Bears didn't pass on Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson 725 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: and they got Mitchell Trubisky like later in the first round. 726 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: I wonder about the expectation level. I don't know if 727 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: that would have helped. Well, it probably would have helped. 728 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if it would have helped enough. But 729 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 1: it just felt like whatever Mitchell Trubisky did, it always 730 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: paled in comparison to what Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes did. 731 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: And as you know, a lot of times you're compared 732 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: to the person that you were in the draft with, 733 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: like Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers or Ryan Leaf and 734 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Mitchell Trubisky was never going to be good enough. 735 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: It felt like right, and that's why a fresh start elsewhere, 736 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: while that storyline still going to follow him wherever he goes, 737 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: it's it's not going to be a front and center 738 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: quite as much as it's been here in Chicago, where 739 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: they not only drafted him ahead of Watson and Mahomes, 740 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: but trade it up to draft them, you know, the Bears. 741 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: So you look at what they've invested in the position. 742 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 1: They traded a first round pick, two thirds and two 743 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: fourths to trade up to get Trabisky and then to 744 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: acquire Nick Foles and a trade a year ago. Foles 745 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: is the only one that remains under contract for them, 746 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: so it's it's quite a mess for him right now. 747 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: Is they hope to somehow get better offensively and win 748 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: with the defense that they feel remains playoff ready after 749 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: a second half slump. How about this, you just don't 750 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: have a quarterback, Brad know that they don't know, But 751 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: how about we just don't have one. We just don't 752 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: have a Yeah, well we'd have to create some new 753 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: rules for the game, right or just a wildcat just know, yeah, 754 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: I just you know, go Red Grange on them, you know, 755 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: let's just yeah, because if Nick Foles is going to 756 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: be your quarterback or Jameis Winston and like, that's not 757 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: the momentum you want to have after being a playoff 758 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: team the previous year, And it would put them in 759 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: a position where there would be little room for air 760 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: with the moves that they're going to make around the 761 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: position this offseason. When you look ahead the free agency 762 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,839 Speaker 1: which opens next week, and then the draft, they would 763 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,479 Speaker 1: have to be razor sharp in terms of they brought 764 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: in some guys, they made some real value buys, they 765 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: helped out, and they'll have to hit in the draft. 766 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks that are after Watson and Wilson are guys 767 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: that you can win with, maybe not win because of, 768 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: and therefore you're going to have to be better around 769 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: that position. It should be fun, but you know, tamp 770 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: down these expectation levels, right. I'm trying to encourage Bears 771 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: fans out to get to dreaming. Tell them to talk 772 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: about Illinois basketball or Zach Levine or I don't know, 773 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: something else because white text or white Texa might be 774 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: a good story. Yeah, that's it with Tony LaRussa, the 775 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: Ageless Tony, the Genius, Tony Larissa Brad thanks for joining us. 776 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, have a great day. That's Brad Biggs. 777 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: He covers the Bears for the Chicago Tribune.