WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Safety Message? 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.480 The following he's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:18.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.279 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:35.520 Star in frascol A busy week ahead for the Dallas 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:40.080 Cowboys from Oxnard, California. Practices each of the next three 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:44.040 days and five of the next six is training camp. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.440 Rolls on here from the West Coast, presented by American Airlines, 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.680 and we are talking Cowboys. Kyle you Almen's Mickey spag 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.800 Nola raising his hands because he got his Sunrise bike 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:57.600 ride in today. And then Rob Phillips as well as well. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.960 It's a it's the start of the Sprint. I guess 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.920 if this week in the marathon really of the NFL season. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.400 We're just underway. But Rob, I mean this is a 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.800 crucial week for a lot of these young guys on 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.920 the roster. What are you looking for as we head 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.720 into practice number four today? About to get to some 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.920 good stuff. We got one more practice I believe without 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.959 pads today and then yeah, Wednesday is everything. All the 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.560 questions we get about guys, I think you have to 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.399 you have to couch it with where they are right 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.600 now in practice starting Wednesday, and then leading up to 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.920 that first preseason game. I think the evaluations hold a 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.600 little more water when you're seeing guys not tackle each other, mick, 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.680 but just a little more physicality and more more like 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.200 real football when they're in full pass. What's those pads on? Yes, yes, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.520 let's see what happens, and yeah, it'll be interesting. You know. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.240 One of the things that I like to point out is, 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:58.680 you know, when you playing underwear football, wide receivers are 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.520 real bold going over the right. Now, let's see if 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.480 they have any anxiety that knowing that when they catch 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.720 the ball or try to catch the ball, there's somebody 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.200 who's going to knock the snot out of them, especially 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.400 going over the middle. And these guys have been running 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.320 over the middle care free, so well, they're not going 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.880 to get the snot knocked out. Well, but they'll get hit. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:23.320 They'll get out there up guys that have numbers like 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:30.320 fourteen and fifteen and sixteen and seventeen seventeen. Yeah, he'll 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:33.640 start getting hit. You know, they're not hitting thirteen and 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:39.080 eighty eight and nineteen, but these other numbers. That's fair game. Uh. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.480 And then the other thing today I want to see, 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:46.239 is you know, after you have a day off, how 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.079 do you come back lethargic? Are you're ready to go? 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.600 Because we've seen that here before where you get a 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.200 day off or two and it's almost like being on vacation, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.680 right and you come back to work and you're like, oh, okay, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.080 I gotta get back in the routine. Well, there's no 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.600 walk through to get back in the routine because they 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.280 have the main practice in the morning, so to be 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.000 interesting to see how at ten of they are or 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.960 if the coaches have to work hard to get their attention. Well, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.440 and you've also mentally just look three straight practices. That 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.720 has not happened this camp, and I'm not sure it's happened. Well, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.440 I guess it happened in OTAs. But now with pads 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.280 coming on, you gotta get your mind right because this 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.320 is kind of the start of a mental grind here 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.079 with three straight days and in pads and that games 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.079 around the corner, you know, and it's it's probably gonna 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.760 be most young guys playing, but it's that's an opportunity 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.120 for guys to stand out on this ninety man roster. Yeah, 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.360 we're now in the single digits until it's single digit days, 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.200 I should say, until the Cowboys do travel to Canton. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.560 I think that's a great point that Mike brought up 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.600 about the lethargic nous of what could happen today. This 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.880 may not be the best practice we've seen so far 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.640 from the Cowboys. If they're not if they're not careful, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.160 you gotta go back out there. You gotta have that 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.200 same kind of energy intensity at dan Quinn of us 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.400 has been doing that on the defensive end. But is 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.720 this a good thing for the Cowboys? That practice is 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.880 five of the next six days, kind of get not 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.920 only into a routine, but just out of the pitter 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.040 patter start and stop that we saw from the first 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:17.320 really week of camp. Yeah, no, absolutely, And you know 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:22.520 you'll get your regeneration day on Friday. It's mandatory, right, 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.039 it's in the CBA. How many days in a row 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.240 you can practice, But yeah, you know, get it, get 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.839 into a routine, get into the grind and and and 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.960 you know see, if guys see what happens a lot 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:41.520 of times in practices, you'll see Rob mentioned seventeen. Malik Turner, right, 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.200 the wide receiver had a good day the other day right. Okay, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.280 a good camp. Now, can you do it two days 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.760 in a row? You know, you can't just flash and 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.679 then the next day you fall back to, oh, who's 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.960 that guy? Right? So now you got to put these 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:02.159 practices consecutively together if you're gonna make an impression on 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.479 this on the coaching staff. And there's a lot of 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.480 young guys that you know, we we see somebody flash 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.960 and then the next day is well where that guy go? Right? Um? 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.920 So um, yeah, this will be a really telltale stretch here. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.920 I think these next three days. The other thing, too, 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.400 is when Mick mentioned the number of young players levin 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.280 draft picks, a lot of undrafted rookies, guys that are 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.640 in their first NFL training camp. When the pads do 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.880 come on, Okay, we want your intensity, but we also 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.720 want to protect each other. Keep everybody up, nobody on 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.240 the ground. Um, there's a reason Dak Prescott was held 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.800 out of team drills in the offseason because they wanted 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.120 to protect him. So let's be let's be intense, let's 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.120 get our work done, but let's protect each other too. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.320 That's that's when Jason Garrett was here. That was a 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.520 message to the young guys when the pads started was 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.760 just you know, let's let's be get we're teammates there, 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.039 let's be careful. Stop and stop me if I told 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.120 you guys this before. But you know, thirty some years 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.520 ago when they had training camp practice in Thousand Oaks, 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.039 a lot of a lot of those years early in 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.279 the kind of the late seventies, early eighties, they would 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:09.400 bring the rookies in two weeks ahead of time and 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.800 kind of get their exuberance out of them. That way, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.760 when the veterans come in, you're not sitting there going, Okay, 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.920 I'm gonna lay that guy out right, I gotta make 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.760 an impression. And they would they kind to tire them 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.480 out a little bit early, and they wouldn't come They 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.359 would come in here with all their draft choices, and 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.720 you know, back in the day they were drafting sixteen rounds, 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.880 and they would bring in all these free agents and 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.600 they'd bring them in early because there was really no offseason, 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.640 so that was the start of the season and they'd 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.440 they'd work them out and start weeding guys out. You know, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.719 I could remember Cliff Harris talking about, you know, when 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.240 he got signed as a rookie free agent and they 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.240 told him, yeah, he was the number one guy, and 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.839 you know, and he's gonna be one of their top dbs. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.840 And then he gets the training camp and there's twenty 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.680 dbs there, you know, and it's like, wait, I thought 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.320 I was the guy, you know. And they did the 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.000 same thing. A wide receiver, Drew Prison will tell you 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.520 the same thing, getting signed as a rookie free agent 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.120 and you show up and oh, there's twenty other rookie 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.680 wide receivers here. So they used to try to do that. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.320 And I remember one year, Um, they had signed a 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.720 somewhat of a veteran running back. So it had been 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:29.400 nineteen ninety EMT's Emmett's a rookie year and Stan Smegala 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.160 wipes out that veteran running back that they brought in 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.000 and tore as acl and it was a cheap hit 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.200 on the sideline. But it was like the first day 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.520 pads were on, and it's like, hell, you got to 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.760 get that out of these young guys because they're all 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:48.720 trying to do something to gain some attention. So um yeah, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.200 but it's good. Now they've had this lead up and 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.800 when the pads come on tomorrow, they'll at least kind 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:58.080 of been uh, you know, acclimated to for a couple 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.320 of days. Yeah, you throw, and that'll be something watch, 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.240 I think throughout the early parts of today's practice and 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.840 then of course tomorrow whenever the pads do come on. 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.160 But we've mentioned the wide receivers and kind of the 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.560 extra confidence that some of these young whiteouts have had 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.960 over the middle of the field and having some success. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.440 We saw Dalton Schultz have a really nice day, Malie Turner, 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.480 Oh serious, Mitchell. A lot of these young wide receivers 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.080 fighting for a roster spot, trying to challenge guys like 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.520 Noah Brown Cedric Wilson below the top three wide receivers. 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.160 But I want to flip it to the defensive side 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.120 of the football. The safety position has been on and 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.080 off right now. They haven't had the pads on, like 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:36.000 we've said, so they're at a disadvantage already. However, the Cowboys, 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.280 after a couple practices, said, hey, let's bring in another 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.360 veteran that we've already looked at, already decided against, and 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.160 Malik Hooker, and let's at least try him out and 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.400 see what's happening now. Jerry talked about it the other 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.000 day rob One. What did Jerry say about the current 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.480 situation of bringing in MALIEK. Cooker, a former first round pick, 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:56.120 a safety, to maybe challenge for the starting job at safety, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.480 and then is safety that big of a concern right now? 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.880 His comments on Malie Cooker reef. I mean, he's not 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.160 signed yet, so he said, you know, if he is signed, 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.320 to your point, he can bring some experience to the group. 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.240 He's got their required COVID nineteen protocols for coming in 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.199 and working out and possibly getting signed, So I think 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.199 they're almost through those. So in the next day or 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:20.079 two we might hear him being signed, and it sounds 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.439 like they're very interested in doing that because of his experience. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.360 You know, he's They brought him in in March and 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:31.760 the same time as Damantez, and they signed Casey because 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.920 I think probably they felt better about his medical situation 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.120 in addition to the fact that he's been a Dan 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.760 Quinn guy in the past. But obviously they like what 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.040 he did in Indianapolis. Hooker did in a former fifteenth 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.600 overall draft pick coming out of college. So I think 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.400 the biggest thing that stands out is what does Mike 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.559 McCarthy always talk about Dan quinto taking the football away. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.360 That's the one part of the defensive identity Mick last 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.679 year that they kind of got going was forcing turnovers. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.199 Lee Cooker, when he's healthy, has done that. And I 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.559 think they're I don't think they're panicking about the safety position, 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.800 but they're looking for competition and and really in that 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.880 aspect as well. And I think he can bring that 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.400 if he's healthy, and if he can get back to 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.000 where he was a couple of years ago. Yeah, and 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:19.600 I think that. I think his five day protocol is up. Uh. 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.959 So I think they can work him out today because 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.880 they haven't worked him out yet, um, you know. And 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.800 when they had him in the spring, my understanding was 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.360 he wasn't ready. You know, he tore his achilles last year. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.839 Uh and he wasn't ready to go. So they're gonna 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:42.640 see physically where he's at um, you know. And let's 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.320 face it, you know, he ain't been sitting there for 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.480 three months and saying well, I'm waiting for the Cowboys 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.640 to bring me back and work out. No one else 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:54.439 has touched him, right, Um, So I think they want 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:59.600 to see where he's at um and then physically, and 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:03.040 I don't think they're panicking at safety. They're just saying, hey, 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.600 this guy was pretty good when he was healthy in Indianapolis. 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:10.079 But let's remember he missed an entire season I think 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.199 it was twenty eighteen, would have torn acl and then 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:18.240 he missed last year. He's tores uh killies September twentieth. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.199 M miss him time in twenty nineteen as well. Right, 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.360 and so you know you're right at Farmer first round 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.800 pick um. Yeah, he's got seven interceptions in his career, 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.000 so I'm not gonna go crazy, ooh, this guy's in 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:35.960 ballhawk whatever. But he's a He's a classic free safety 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.280 that can get them. And I think what they're looking 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.679 for is, Okay, let's see if this guy's better than 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.160 the other guys. It's not like, oh, these guys are terrible, 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.160 we just need to bring somebody in. So we're at 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.679 a consensus here that this is not a panic set. Yeah, 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.360 this is a depth signing of anything. Because I mean 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.520 I even asked the question. I think it was Mickey 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.520 that I was asking you to a practice the other day. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.640 As outside of Casey and jayren Kurr is the next 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.040 guy up. Do you feel comfortable with that being your 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.800 free safety combo or your safety combo in general, I 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.280 don't necessarily feel that way. I feel like there's a 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.400 really thin spot right now at the safety position, and 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.280 I think this could help out. It doesn't necessarily mean 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.520 he's going to be the starter, but if he comes 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.480 in and play significant snaps and is able to have 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.840 a rotation where you're not afraid of letting something go 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.600 over the top of your defense, I think it's gonna 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.800 help out a lot. And then you would think they've 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.640 already talked about this with his agent about this is 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.040 what we can afford. You're not coming in here to 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.760 get Yeah, you're gonna be on a one year deal, 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.400 maybe two, but the second year is probably gonna have 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.960 some sort of option in it or something like that. 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.160 And you're not gonna make much more than the than 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.520 the minimum veteran minimum, and you might get a little 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.720 bit of a signing bonus. But yeah, you're not coming 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.320 in here to be rich. But again, you don't have 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.320 a job on July twenty seventh, Right, No, you can't 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.800 get too choosy, No, you can't. Right, you know there's 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.360 thirty one other teams out there. They got ninety guys 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.160 on their roster and no one knocked on my door. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.680 Think back to the first week of training camp last year. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.920 Ah ha, Clinton Dix just demoted from the first team 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:15.960 to the second team, didn't make it out of training camp. 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.800 I think I think they're looking at that from look, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.600 we want depth. I think when that happened and they 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.360 decided that, you know, he wasn't going to be a fit, 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.560 and they were kind of counting on him being a 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.440 fit potentially when they signed him. They were left with 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.320 some issues depthwise at safety last year. And they haven't 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:38.440 overspent to sign Kzy, they haven't overspent to sign Jayron Curse, 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.959 and they haven't overspent to sign Kean O'Neill. So I 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.400 would imagine this guy's you know, not going to break 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.600 the bank here because there's much left in the bank 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.160 under the salary cap. Well, fans are clamoring for them 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.760 to spend at that position, and they just haven't. They 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.679 haven't done it. You know, they've they have really been 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.600 availability out there with some high name safety free as outside. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.920 I mean I guess names, sure, Yeah, I mean Amas 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.679 is out there, we got that. But yeah, it's a 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:06.840 little while back, and he's a different player than he 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.040 was in the legion of Boom. Different different story. There 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.080 hasn't been that big name safety that's been on the 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.559 market to be able to spin like that. Yeah. I 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.160 have been quality veterans that maybe have some injury history, 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.840 yeah history. Yeah. And look, they were fortunate last year 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.320 that Donovan Wilson just kind of I wouldn't say came 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.360 out of nowhere, But I don't know. I don't think 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.120 they were expecting him to be this viable starter last year, 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.240 and they were lucky he came in and played as 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.760 well as he did, and I think to a certain 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.600 extent they're going to count on him to be a 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:39.440 starter again. Yeah, you know they. To me, safety is 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.200 an important position. It is a position where, especially in 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.320 today's NFL, if you can have a guy that can 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.040 be a matchup problem and you can move him around, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.520 I think there's value there. If they can be better 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.520 in the front seven though front seven, pass rush your 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:56.800 linebackers better, that'll help the safety position, That'll help the 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.400 cornerback position. So you know, find some find some veterans 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.520 who can come in and compete and be solid at 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.480 that position, so solid and and and let's put it 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:09.520 this way, from safety tell me your I'm trying. I'm 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.200 trying to rile him up. Put put put me your 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:16.760 position priority on defense, and then tell me where safety 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:22.240 comes in. I know it's right. Yeah. So if you 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.800 tell me I didn't get to the super Bowl because 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:30.440 my safety position, I think you've had other problems. So yeah, 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.760 you can. You can look if you find a good one, boy, 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.440 that's great, But I don't think you have to just 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.080 break the bank to fill the safety position. Give me 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.040 a guy that's solid, that doesn't make mistake. But they 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:45.960 haven't found that guy yet. And I think that's the 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:50.040 biggest issue for Cowboys fans. That Jeff Heath was good, 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:56.040 he was serviceable, he didn't cost him games. They what 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:58.600 cost him games last year? What did they have thirty 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.480 one sacks? Go spending money on a deal. I don't 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.920 disagree with you there. I do think they've had opportunities 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.160 to address it. They haven't. Tyron Matthew went somewhere else 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.160 and kind of helped transform a defense in Kansas City. 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:15.040 I mean it can that position can be valuable, but look, 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.160 they've looked to address other spots. You know, I'm okay 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.200 with addressing pass rusher and defense defensive tackle. I was 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.200 fine with that defensive line, spending three picks on that line. 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.240 I'm good with it. Yeah, yeah, linebacker fine, you know, 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:31.440 And maybe Israel can develop into a safety at some point. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.760 I wouldn't expect that this year, but maybe in the 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.560 next couple of years, maybe he can develop into a 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.440 guy that's part of a rotation. 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Okay, it's a little very fair thing. 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.600 But what they're doing right now on the first team, 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:28.040 they've got Carlos Watkins out there along with Neville Gallimore, 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:32.240 and they are really high on Neville Gallimore. He was 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:36.360 one of the guys that won the offseason Workout Award, 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:43.800 and evidently he is really all in. I'm trying to 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.359 get better and remember he ended up starting what the 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:50.680 last eight nine games last year. Yeah, and there was 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.480 a reason why he did that, because he really improved. 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.680 And and again here was a guy that you probably 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:03.320 had high hopes for, no off season, no preseason, and 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.399 just kind of got thrown into the fire right like 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.520 all the rookies did last year, without any lead up, 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.600 And it took him a little while to get going, 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:16.040 and understandably because he was kind of playing a different 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.440 position than he played at Oklahoma. At Oklahoma they were 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.160 in a three man front and he was playing defensive end. 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.160 Now he's in where he should be at the three 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:30.520 technique defensive tackle with a four man line, and I'm 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.439 expecting big things for him, but again, let's put the 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.119 pads on and see what happens. I mentioned him the 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.240 first show out here that I think you can mark 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.639 him down as a starter. That's how they feel about him. 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:42.880 That's what he showed last year. I talked to him 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.679