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Speaker 1: Good evening, America, Happy Eastern Monday, and welcome to the

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Speaker 1: latest edition of Justin Who's No Noise. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: John Solomon, reporting too, is always in the nation's capital, Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. We've got time to bring you this evening,

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Speaker 1: including some trouble that Democratic Congressman Eric Swellmo may be facing.

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Speaker 2: I'll get to that in just a second. The first,

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Speaker 2: an update on Iran.

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Speaker 1: As Earlier today, the Islamic Republic rejected a proposed forty

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Speaker 1: five day ceasefire plan that would have required it to

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Speaker 1: open the strait of our movies. President Trump, for his part,

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Speaker 1: rejected an Iranian counterproposal, but called their offer a significant step.

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Speaker 1: Despite the apparance to all negotiations, Trump declared that he

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Speaker 1: is negotiating with an active, willing participant on the Iranian side,

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Speaker 1: though client identified his point of contact.

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Speaker 2: Now to get to the swallow and news, I told you, Abob.

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Speaker 1: You may recall that the congressman is a top Democrat

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Speaker 1: in the House Tediary Committee. He was relentlessly in favor

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Speaker 1: of releasing all of the Jeffrey Epstein files, even if

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Speaker 1: anocent people are implicated. However, his tone changed on transparency

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Speaker 1: a lot in the last few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 1: That's after he learned that Trump White House was about

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Speaker 1: to prepare a release of a long secret trove of

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Speaker 1: file showing Chinese infiltrations into American politics, into American elections,

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Speaker 1: some stuff we've been talking about. Some of those files

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Speaker 1: actually involved Swallow's own engagements with a former Chinese suspected spy.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Christine Fang. We've talked a lot about

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Speaker 1: her on the show over the years. The second that

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Speaker 1: transparency came to his own behavior, Eric Swallall went in

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Speaker 1: an opposite direction. He actually said a letter to the

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Speaker 1: FBI director Cash Hotel through his lawyer, saying, if you

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Speaker 1: release him, I'm going to sue you. So he's not

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Speaker 1: that transparent when it comes to his own dealings with

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Speaker 1: a Chinese asset. But he was all for it just

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Speaker 1: before that flip flop not being lost on most people, say,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people talking about that story all over

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Speaker 1: the country. All right, I want to turn to me

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Speaker 1: quickly to my amazing co host, Amanda head She's got

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Speaker 1: a lot about the headline she's been tracking from Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles today, Amanda.

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Speaker 2: What's on your radar?

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, Joan with our coast to coast coverage these days.

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Speaker 3: Earlier today, President Trump celebrated the success of the rescue

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Speaker 3: operation to recover the two US pilots whose plane went.

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Speaker 4: Down in Iran.

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Speaker 3: And as the President said, it was a very hard

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Speaker 3: decision to make due to the risks involved, but the

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Speaker 3: US military leaves no American behind. Now new information regarding

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Speaker 3: this operation has come to light, and this is what

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Speaker 3: President Trump had to say earlier today about the alleged

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Speaker 3: leaker who possibly complicated the rescue mission, possibly putting lives

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Speaker 3: at risk.

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Speaker 4: Take a listen.

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Speaker 5: As you probably know, we didn't talk about the first

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Speaker 5: one for an hour. Then somebody leaked something which will

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Speaker 5: hopefully find that leaker. We're looking very hard to find

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Speaker 5: that leaker, and talked about there's somebody missing. They basically

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Speaker 5: said that we have one and there's somebody missing. Well,

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Speaker 5: they didn't know there was somebody missing until this leaker

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Speaker 5: gave the information. So whoever do is We think we'll

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Speaker 5: be able to find it out because we're going to

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Speaker 5: go to the media company that released it, and we're

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Speaker 5: going to say national security, give it up or go

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Speaker 5: to jail.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Later in the video, the President explains that due to

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Speaker 3: the leak, the Iranian regime offered a substantial reward for

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Speaker 3: anyone who could locate this pilot who was shot down.

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Speaker 3: So as a result, our service members were not only

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Speaker 3: battling the Iranian regime itself, but now they're all facing thousands,

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Speaker 3: if not millions, of people who are attempting to capture

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Speaker 3: the pilot for that ransom. So here is CIA Director

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Speaker 3: John Ratcliffe giving further details on the rescue mission.

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Speaker 6: At the President's direction, we deployed both human and exquisite

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Speaker 6: technologies that no other intelligence service in the world possesses

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Speaker 6: to a daunting challenge comparable to hunting for a single

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Speaker 2: Of a desert.

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Speaker 6: This was also a race against the clock, as it

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Speaker 6: was critical that we locate the down aviator as quickly

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Speaker 6: For that reason, in addition to the human and technical

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Speaker 6: assets deployed by the President to find our airman, CIA

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Speaker 6: executed a deception campaign to confuse the Iranians who were

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Speaker 4: So, John, this was welcome news on Easter Sunday.

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Speaker 3: I know that there were two families in fact of

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Speaker 3: service members this weekend who were very, very glad to

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Speaker 3: and was pulled to safety.

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Speaker 1: And what an extraor andary statement the President and his

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Speaker 1: team made to every man and woman that wears a uniform.

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Speaker 2: We will not leave you behind.

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Speaker 1: We will use whatever resources we have to get you

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Speaker 1: home safely if that's possible.

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Speaker 2: A very powerful moment.

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Speaker 1: And incredibly the rescue looks like something out of a

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Speaker 1: Hollywood movie, except it was. It was very real, so

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Speaker 1: pretty remarkable stuff. All Right, we've got a great way

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Speaker 1: to kick off the show today. He is a coach

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Speaker 1: invoice in supporting the President's efforts in Iran, trying to

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Speaker 1: bring peace to the Middle East. He represents the great

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Speaker 1: state of Florida. He says what he means, He means

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Speaker 1: what he says. He's a great Congressman, Brandy Fine, he

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Speaker 1: joins us right now, Congressman, great to have you on

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Speaker 1: the show today.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me. I'm honored to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we love having you on this next twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours seems like it could be a very consequential moment

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Speaker 1: for Iran. No imminent peace deal seems to be working

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Speaker 1: its way towards the top of the chart, and so

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Speaker 1: President Trump said Tuesday will be power plant a Bridge day,

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Speaker 1: that he'll take it to the Iranian in a way

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Speaker 1: that we haven't seen before. Your thoughts on whether we're

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Speaker 1: going to reach that moment and what it may mean

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Speaker 8: The war, well, happy Bridge and power plant eve. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I think President Trump has laid out very clearly that

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Speaker 8: they will either get in line or it will be

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Speaker 8: bombs away. And for those who are concerned about it,

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Speaker 8: people need to understand this. Power Plants that fuel the

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Speaker 8: Iranian military but also fuel civilian resources are legitimate military targets.

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Speaker 8: Bridges that the military uses but also are used for

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Speaker 8: civilians are legitimate targets.

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Speaker 7: If you use these things in dual use, they are

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Speaker 7: legitimate targets.

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Speaker 8: And it is time for us to send an overwhelming

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Speaker 8: message to the Iranian government that we are not going

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Speaker 8: to put up with it. So they can join the

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Speaker 8: Community of Western Nations or they can get blown up.

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Speaker 8: That's what President Trump has said. Now, I certainly hope

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Speaker 8: they will see the light, they will come to what

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Speaker 8: would be common sense and say, look, we're going to

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Speaker 8: our weapons. We're not going to try to build a

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Speaker 7: But that's up to the Iranians.

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Speaker 8: President Trump has made clear what will happen if they

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Speaker 4: I'm congressman.

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Speaker 3: This administration has made it clear that they are savage

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Speaker 3: in pursuit of their goals, but at the same time,

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Speaker 3: they have balanced that with a delicateness and in a

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Speaker 3: way in which it seems very apparent that they are

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Speaker 3: very precious with human life so as to not create

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Speaker 3: How do you anticipate what should the message be to

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Speaker 3: the Iranian people who could become collateral damage if this

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Speaker 3: continues and the bridges and the power plants and such

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Speaker 8: Well, I hope the words gotten out don't be on

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Speaker 7: The collateral damage.

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Speaker 8: He's kind of announced the time and the place, and

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Speaker 7: Hanging around power plants. So I don't think.

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Speaker 8: You'll see civilians be in in any of this. But

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Speaker 8: we need to destroy the capability that Iran has to

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Speaker 8: make war on us, and the fact that they engage

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Speaker 8: in dual use doesn't get them off the hook. What

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Speaker 8: we want is in Iran that wants to be part

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Speaker 8: of that Western community of nations, A richer Iran, by

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Speaker 8: the way, an Iran that can sell its oil at

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Speaker 8: which would be better for the Iranian people. But the

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Speaker 8: problem that we face is we have an Islamic religious

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Speaker 8: leadership that glorifies death and destruction and for forty seven years,

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Speaker 8: has made it their mission to destroy the United States.

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Speaker 7: We simply can't allow that.

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Speaker 8: And Donald Trump is trying to wrap up a war that,

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Speaker 8: for the Iranians has been going on for forty seven years.

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Speaker 8: I hope tomorrow is the day that it comes to

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Speaker 8: up to President Trump. What he has said is what

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Speaker 8: we have tolerated for forty seven years, we will not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fanaticism makes it a little tricky. To negotiate, because

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Speaker 1: we're used to people negotiating to common sense tactics, and

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Speaker 1: you make a deal. But the Iranians haven't always now

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Speaker 8: Well, I certainly hope so, because what they can see

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Speaker 8: is what happens. I mean, I think particularly Israel has

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Speaker 8: been ruthless in taking out the Iranian terrorist leadership. These

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Speaker 8: their religious faith, and they have to make a choice

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's basically what it's come down to.

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Speaker 8: And I certainly hope that this government, President Trump has

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Speaker 7: Look at what he's done in Venezuela, saying, look, if you'll.

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Speaker 8: Rejoin us, you will prosper. And I think President Trump

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Speaker 8: has made that same offer to Iran. Put down the

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Speaker 8: to fire that nuclear weapon at the United States, and let's.

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Speaker 7: Be friends not enemies.

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Speaker 8: That is an opportunity that the Iranian government has, but

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Speaker 7: But we're not going to put up with this.

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Speaker 8: And if you look at the efforts they made to

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Speaker 8: on how terrible that would have been. We simply can

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Speaker 8: out allow a government like that to exist in this world.

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Speaker 3: Sara, I want to shift gears to something that, for

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Speaker 3: whatever reason, Republicans in the House versus Republicans and the

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Speaker 3: Senate Republicans in the House seem much more incentivized to

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Speaker 3: fund ICE, to end the shutdown and to get the

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Speaker 3: Save America Act pass. Can you give us a status

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Speaker 3: coordinates with ending the shutdown.

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Speaker 8: Well, the good news is the shutdown has come to

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Speaker 8: an end because President Trump assigned an executive order to

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Speaker 7: But what is extraordinary to.

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Speaker 8: Me is the Senate has put these arcane rules that

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Speaker 4: Sarah, I want to finish up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so very important for people to understand the

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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me. Happy to come back anything.

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Speaker 3: We have some big news to get to from the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court and it deals with our colleague Steve Bannon.

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Speaker 3: Earlier today, the court gave the Trump administration a path

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Speaker 9: Just to correct one thing, I represented Steve Bannon throughout

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you, you know, for Steve bann

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Speaker 9: Well, in the end, provided that you have Donald Trump

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Speaker 9: Well, they certainly clarify the fact that a private citizen

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Speaker 9: Attorney's Office, because the vast majority of these contempt proceedings

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Speaker 9: issued by Congress are not prosecuted. And I thought, since

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Speaker 9: I think something like seventy or eighty percent of them

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Speaker 9: weren't prosecuted, that I would find a common sense person

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Speaker 9: in the US Attorney's office. And boy was I surprised,

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Speaker 9: because while I was attempting to get a declination from

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Speaker 9: the US Attorney's office, they were secretly trying to They

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Speaker 9: tried to obtain my home office and cell phone records.

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Speaker 9: Now that's outrageous. You can't do that to a lawyer

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Speaker 9: representing a prominent person like Steve Bannon. Of course, they

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Speaker 9: found nothing, but that wasn't the important point. The point

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Speaker 9: was that they tried to do it. And the judge

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Speaker 9: got very upset about this, but he said, I'll take

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Speaker 9: care of this at the end of the case. Well,

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Speaker 9: he forgot at the end of the case to take

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Speaker 9: care of our emotion. For sanctions against JP Cooney, who's

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Speaker 9: running for Congress right now, And so we reminded him.

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Speaker 9: When I say, well, it was David Shoan and myself,

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Speaker 9: and we reminded him two additional times to take some action.

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Speaker 9: He could take the action of simply saying, I deny

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Speaker 9: your request, but he didn't even do that. It's left

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Speaker 9: hanging to this day on that case. I've never seen

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Speaker 9: a federal judge do that, but this one did.

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Speaker 3: Well. And it wasn't just Bob Costello, it wasn't just

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Speaker 3: Steve Bannon. In so many of these cases, politicization seems

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Speaker 3: to hang very heavy in its presence. And I want

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Speaker 3: to ask you about Rudy Giuliani. I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: someone who, like you, I mean, privacy was violated for him.

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Speaker 3: His home, his office were raised. And I know you've

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Speaker 3: pointed this out. The same FBI agents who were champing

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Speaker 3: at the bit to do that are the same ones

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Speaker 3: who wouldn't go anywhere near Hunter Biden's laptop.

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Speaker 9: Oh boy, Yes, I told the agent the morning that

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Speaker 9: Rudy Giuliani's apartment was being searched. He called me at

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Speaker 9: maybe six fifteen in the morning. To the delight of

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Speaker 9: my wife I might have add and he put me

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Speaker 9: on the phone with the agent and I said to

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Speaker 9: going to ask you a simple question. Do you know

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Speaker 9: what a hard drive looks like? And he said yes?

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Speaker 9: And I said, can you describe it to me? And

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Speaker 9: he described it accurately. I said, now, would you go

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Speaker 9: with the phone and Rudy Giuliani into Rudy's office at

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Speaker 9: the apartment in Manhattan. I said, are you there, yes,

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Speaker 9: I said, look on the desk and you will see

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Speaker 9: three hard drives. He said, yes, I see those. I said, well,

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Speaker 9: those are Hunter Biden's hard drives. And his reaction was whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 9: I said, according to the search warrant that you you have,

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Speaker 9: you are required to seize all electronic devices in Rudy

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Speaker 9: Giuliani's apartment, and those are electronic devices. But I wanted

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Speaker 9: to tell you in advance that those were Hunter Biden's

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Speaker 9: hard drives. He said, oh, no, we're not touching those.

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Speaker 9: I said, what do you mean, you're not touching those?

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Speaker 9: You're required by the search warrant to touch those. In fact,

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Speaker 9: you're required by the search warrant to seize those. He said,

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Speaker 9: absolutely not. We're not going anywhere near there. He was

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Speaker 9: adamant that he wasn't going to touch them. Now, the

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Speaker 9: interesting part was all he could look at on the

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Speaker 9: desk was at the actual hard drives. He didn't know

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Speaker 9: what was in there. He didn't know that those were

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Speaker 9: Hunter Biden hard drives except for the fact that I

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Speaker 9: told him and Rudy told them, But they wouldn't touch

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Speaker 9: those at all. That was very early on, which showed

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Speaker 9: you that the FBI wanted nothing to do with any

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Speaker 9: evidence that would implicate Hunter or Joe Biden, and there

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Speaker 9: was plenty of evidence on those hard drives that implicate

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Speaker 9: both of them. I mean that was a lesson. I

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Speaker 9: was learning that things were not as fair and square

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Speaker 9: as they used to be. I believed when I was

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Speaker 9: a federal prosecutor, the rules were completely different, and Rudy

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Speaker 9: Giuliani agreed, these are not the same FBI, these are

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Speaker 9: not the same rules. I don't know what's going on here.

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Speaker 9: They have an objective that they're trying to accomplish, and

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Speaker 9: they don't care what the evidence is. That's my experience,

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Speaker 9: at least.

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Speaker 2: Before we let you go.

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Speaker 1: The last five years have shown us said attorney client

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Speaker 1: privilege was pierce very lightly, I mean very aggressively, but

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Speaker 1: with very light concern and regard for the protection that

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Speaker 1: the debate and speech clause was eviscerated. Fourteen fifteen members

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Speaker 1: of Congress were being targeted by these investigations. So attorney

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Speaker 1: client sensitive communications congressional work, but supposed to be protected

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Speaker 1: by the constitution. Warn't How do we get back to

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Speaker 1: a system where those two privileges are more sancracent than

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Speaker 1: they were in the five years around these sort of

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Speaker 1: very controversial investigations.

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Speaker 9: You mentioned that topic. I just want to add a

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Speaker 9: little footnote here that that same lawyer JP Cooney who

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Speaker 9: got my phone records in the banning case then went

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Speaker 9: on to work for the special prosecutor, and those are

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Speaker 9: the same people that took the phone records for all

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Speaker 9: of those senators. Quite coincidentally, they have to all be Republicans.

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Speaker 9: So I'm pretty sure that that guy JP Cooney was

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Speaker 9: involved in the second stealing of evidence like that. And

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Speaker 9: the way you stop this is you have somebody imposed sanctions.

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Speaker 2: For doing that.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's clearly in violation of the law, but

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Speaker 9: so far we gave Judge Nichols in Washington, d C

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Speaker 9: the opportunity to do that, and he didn't act at all,

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Speaker 9: and we reminded him, and he didn't act, and we

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Speaker 9: reminded him again and he didn't act.

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Speaker 7: He still hasn't acted.

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Speaker 9: But I hope that Congress will push forward this investigation

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Speaker 9: of arctic frost and go after the same people who

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Speaker 9: took the congressmen and senators records, their phone records, because

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Speaker 9: this is rate rampant. And the important thing was in

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Speaker 9: the Hunter Biden case they had an undisclosed search warrant

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Speaker 9: on Rudy Juliani's iCloud account.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean.

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Speaker 9: That means that since I didn't know, and since Rudy

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Speaker 9: Giuliani didn't know, when I got Hunter Biden's hard drive,

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Speaker 9: I was communicating with Rudy Juliani to say, Rudy, I

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Speaker 9: have Hunter Biden's hard drive and you are not going

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Speaker 9: to believe what's on.

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Speaker 10: This hard drive.

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Speaker 9: Well, that information was being intercepted by the FBI, the

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Speaker 9: same people who had the Hunter Biden hard drive nine

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Speaker 9: months before I did and verified that it was accurate

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Speaker 9: and had not.

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Speaker 2: Been tampered with.

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Speaker 9: Where were those FBI people when the fifty one CIA

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Speaker 9: people put out that phony statement before the Biden Trump

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Speaker 9: debate and said, this is a product of Russian disinformation.

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Speaker 9: Why didn't the FBI come forward and say, oh, no,

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Speaker 9: we've had that hard drive, we examined it, it's genuine.

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Speaker 9: They didn't do it. They kept quiet, and that's a

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Speaker 9: real problem because you know, if the FBI knew it,

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Speaker 9: the CIA knew it.

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Speaker 3: Right, Bob Coast Seller, your pursuit of justice as legendary

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Speaker 3: as is your entire career. It's an honor to have

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Speaker 3: you here, sir.

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Speaker 9: Well, thank you very much. You guys are doing break work.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you, sir.

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Speaker 3: All right, everybody coming up after the break, we are

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Speaker 3: going to take a closer look at that daring mission

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Speaker 3: behind enemy lines in Iran to save a down American

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Speaker 3: airman and can you believe it is actually being criticized

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Speaker 3: by foreigners online. Unbelievable. We're going to get to all

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Speaker 3: of that on the other side with Colonel robminus.

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Speaker 2: Well in back America.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't have a chance to watch the press briefing,

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Speaker 1: stay at the White House. What the War Secretary of

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Speaker 1: the CIA director and President Trump told us. It is

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Speaker 1: an extraordinary story the forty eight hour scramble to rescue

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Speaker 1: an American airman that was down in enemy territory in

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Speaker 1: Iran subterfuge, hundreds of special Forces and other operators on

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Speaker 1: the ground to make sure an American came home safely.

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Speaker 1: An extraordinary thing, something cut out of a movie, except

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Speaker 1: it was real life, in real time. Here to break

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Speaker 1: it all down for us. He's a retired Air Force colonel,

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Speaker 1: host of one of my favorite podcasts, The Rob maine

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Speaker 1: Is Show. He's also the founder of Gator Pak. Colonel Robmaine,

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Speaker 1: It is, colonel, good to have you back.

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Speaker 10: On you even me, John Hemde, great.

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Speaker 2: To have you on.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of a better person that was walk

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Speaker 1: through this. When listening to those briefings today, it is

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Speaker 1: just extraordinary the complexity, the sophistication, and ultimately the success

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Speaker 1: of a mission that probably was stacked against that airman.

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Speaker 1: That airman's badly injured, he's an enemy territory and we

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Speaker 1: still get him back before the Iranians can follow him,

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Speaker 1: can get him.

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Speaker 2: How did that happen?

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Speaker 11: And he's a colonel, which means he's older than most

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Speaker 11: of the other these.

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Speaker 10: That's right out there.

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Speaker 11: Good point and something that the President and the Secretary

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Speaker 11: and the Chairman all three focused on just for a

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Speaker 11: little bit, was the will to continue prosecuting their combat mission.

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Speaker 11: Both of these aviators that found themselves ejected from their

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Speaker 11: aircraft and an inmate deep in enemy territory. The backseater

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Speaker 11: being wounded and older, by the way than all the

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Speaker 11: other aviators that he's flying with, had very good training

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Speaker 11: back when they were very young. Second lieutenants. I've been

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Speaker 11: through the training. That training sticks with me in my

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Speaker 11: mind today. I can recall it, and that's why they're

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Speaker 11: so effective, especially the weapon system's officer. He was separated

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Speaker 11: from his pilot, surrounded by enemy forces. Almost immediately, the

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Speaker 11: Iranians put a reward out for the citizens to try

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Speaker 11: to get the ninety thousand dollars or what wherever it was.

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Speaker 11: So that's going to generate at least some people to

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Speaker 11: come out and try to capture this guy. And then

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Speaker 11: he's hurt, and he went through his training, he got

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Speaker 11: to as high ground as possible, and folks, if you're

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Speaker 11: out there thinking about why physical fitness training is very

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Speaker 11: important for air force officers, this is it. He had

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Speaker 11: to have extremely good cardio, having gone through all that adrenaline.

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Speaker 11: He's wounded, he's running from the enemy, and he's trying

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Speaker 11: to get to a place where he can check in

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Speaker 11: with our forces and get identified so they can come

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Speaker 11: pick him up. It was an amazing process just from

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Speaker 11: the perspective of the crew members that were rejected from

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Speaker 11: the aircraft and found themselves in enemy territory, and then

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Speaker 11: the operation itself, especially to get the second officer picked

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Speaker 11: up safely and get everybody back into friendly territory with

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Speaker 11: zero casualties.

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Speaker 10: It was absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if y'all realize this, John, but we

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Speaker 11: actually went into enemy territory as deep as you could

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Speaker 11: probably possibly go considering what's going on in the war.

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Speaker 11: Effort made an airfield almost out of nothing, operated from

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Speaker 11: that airfield, rescued this airman who's up in the mountains

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Speaker 11: over seven thousand feet with helicopters that we flew in

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Speaker 11: on transport airplanes. And then when we had a contingency

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Speaker 11: and the Sea one thirties got stuck and didn't take off,

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Speaker 11: we sent more Special Operations aircraft in to pick everybody up.

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Speaker 11: And in amongst all that, there are firefights going on

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Speaker 11: with the Special Operations Forces and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard

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Speaker 11: Corps that is trying to attack them and get this

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Speaker 11: aviator and capture him.

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Speaker 10: It was amazing operation.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it is, Colonel the military was demoralized under the

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Speaker 3: last administration, and that's not my opinion. Just look at

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Speaker 3: record low recruiting under President Biden. What message does this

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Speaker 3: send to service members that this president, this Secretary of War,

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Speaker 3: they will know by no means leave anyone behind.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, that's the message it sends to our military members,

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Speaker 11: but also to their mothers and fathers and grandparents who

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Speaker 11: may not have any military experience. This is what it

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Speaker 11: means to be an American warrior whose country is dedicated

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Speaker 11: to that individual being able to complete the mission on

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Speaker 11: behalf of the United States of America.

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Speaker 10: Look, we left three.

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Speaker 11: Hundred million dollars worth of aircraft burned up on that

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Speaker 11: runway deep inside Iran.

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Speaker 10: Because that equipment you can replace it in a year

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Speaker 10: or a year and a half.

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Speaker 11: That is not expensive compared to what it takes to

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Speaker 11: replace just one of these aviators. And nothing can replace

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Speaker 11: I think somebody said the two hundred years of military

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Speaker 11: tradition that says we don't leave anybody behind we will

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Speaker 11: come for you, and we will find you, and we

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Speaker 11: will get you out of whatever er predicament you're in.

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Speaker 11: The men that were POW's and Vietnam for years and

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Speaker 11: years and years lived by that, and every American warrior

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Speaker 11: lives by it today, not just the airmen, but even

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Speaker 11: folks on the ground go through serie training because you

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Speaker 11: never know when you might face the situation where you

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Speaker 11: could be captured or have to.

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Speaker 2: Be made just stunning before we let you go.

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Speaker 1: There is a false narrative out there today that if

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Speaker 1: President Trump advances to the next phase of the war

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Speaker 1: and attack some power plants and some bridges used by

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Speaker 1: Iran's military to carry out their war against us, that

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Speaker 1: somehow would be a war crime, or that it would

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Speaker 1: be immoral on ethic gold take that on from the

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Speaker 1: law of the military.

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Speaker 11: Bridges and power plants and airfields. We're attacking the international

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Speaker 11: airport in Iran tonight. It's a dual use facility, which

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Speaker 11: means it's used for military and civilian purposes. Sower power

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Speaker 11: plants and sower bridges. It doesn't really matter what the

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Speaker 11: civilians that don't understand the law of arm like say

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Speaker 11: is a war crime What matters is what's really a

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Speaker 11: war crime or not. And our forces are highly professional.

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Speaker 11: Our staffs are highly trained and highly professional. And when

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Speaker 11: they select a target and they decide they're going to

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Speaker 11: go kill a target, John and Amanda, it's because that

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Speaker 11: target is being used for military purposes to advance the

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Speaker 11: enemy's mission, and it's our job to remove that capability

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Speaker 11: to advance our mission, which is to destroy the government

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Speaker 11: of Iran so that it can never harm its own

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Speaker 11: people or anybody else for all time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an answer You're not going to hear a

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Speaker 1: lot of evening newscasts, but that is the accurate answer.

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Speaker 1: I did a lot of reporting on it today, Colonel

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Speaker 1: Azoei's you're right. Great to have you on the show,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 10: Thank you all.

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Speaker 2: Happy Eastern Yeah, happy Easter to you as well. All right, folks,

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Speaker 2: quick commercial bank.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, why is the medical establishment ignoring

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Speaker 1: the recent studies on cancer treatment that relate to ivermectin.

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Speaker 2: And similar compounds.

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Speaker 1: We're going to tackle that with one of my favorites,

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Speaker 1: doctor Pete mccah right after these messages.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Here's a question asked by our next guest tonight, why

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Speaker 3: has the medical establishment ignored the potential of ivermectin and

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Speaker 3: membendazole in cancer treatments given that eighty four percent of

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Speaker 3: participants in a recent study reported positive results. Joining us

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Speaker 3: to discuss this and more is world renowned doctor and

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Speaker 3: Chief Scientific Officer at The Wellness Company, doctor Peter McCullough.

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Speaker 4: Doctor, Welcome to the show. Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know anything that is even eighty percent effective

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Speaker 3: in treating cancer, much less things like chemotherapy and radiation

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Speaker 3: which destroy the body almost as much as the cancer does.

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Speaker 3: Why on earth is this not getting more publicity?

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Speaker 12: You know, we have I think critical information here at

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Speaker 12: the Wellness Company. We did the right thing. Have a

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Speaker 12: combination ivermecdem and benezol product used on label for neglected

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Speaker 12: parasitic infections, but patients can elect to use it off

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Speaker 12: label if they inform their hematologists oncologists and they complete

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Speaker 12: you know, forms, and so we actually have these patient

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Speaker 12: reported outcomes which are encouraging, and of course they're preliminary,

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Speaker 12: but you know, this is exactly the type of thing

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Speaker 12: that doctor J. Bodachari at the NIH and the National

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Speaker 12: Cancer Institute should be pursuing, So let me give you

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Speaker 12: the information. It's about two hundred patients. We followed them

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Speaker 12: each for over six months. The most common cancer was

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Speaker 12: prostate in man, breast cancer in women, and then lung

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Speaker 12: cancer and much less frequently other forms of cancer. Thirty

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Speaker 12: percent that cancer was widely metastatic and actively going in

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Speaker 12: the wrong direction. And when they went on ivermecdem ben bedazol,

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Speaker 12: eighty four percent had this net clinical benefit. But let

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Speaker 12: me break it down, forty eight point four percent there

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Speaker 12: was regression of the cancer as reported by the patient

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Speaker 12: from their doctors. Based on their scans done every three months,

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Speaker 12: thirty six point one percent stayed the same and then

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Speaker 12: fifteen point six percent worsened, which certainly can do in cancer.

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Speaker 12: Now patients get chemotherapy, radiation, surgery. This is, on top

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Speaker 12: of it, very preliminary patient reported outcomes, but boy are

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Speaker 12: they encouraging.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a stunning data.

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Speaker 1: There's a bias in the current big farmer world that is,

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Speaker 1: let's go find the big, next most expensive drug, and

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Speaker 1: it often comes at the expense of looking at time tested,

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Speaker 1: true medicines that have worked in the past that just

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Speaker 1: be either cheaper to make so they're not as much

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Speaker 1: a financial incentive. How do we begin to adjust that

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Speaker 1: paradigm so that we don't ignore things that might be

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Speaker 1: the perfect solution to a current crisis.

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Speaker 12: That's a great question we need in for cancer centers, John,

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Speaker 12: this is very important right now. The cancer centers are

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Speaker 12: encouraged through what's called book and bill. That means they

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Speaker 12: actually can build for administering chemotherapy and they get a

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Speaker 12: cut of the revenue. So cancer centers make more money

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Speaker 12: when they give expensive cancer drugs. They should be incentive

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Speaker 12: to actually use broad based regimens, including generic medications. In

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Speaker 12: this case, that may be quite useful.

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Speaker 3: Doctor mccallough, I know a lot of people donate to

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Speaker 3: cancer research. If we already have something that could possibly

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Speaker 3: be so efficacious, where's that money going?

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Speaker 12: You know, that's a very good point. A lot of

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Speaker 12: these cancer research societies the money gets sucked up into

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Speaker 12: big pharmaceutical protocols, and I know people are wanting to

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Speaker 12: do the right thing. Listen, cancer is very well funded

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Speaker 12: in the United States, So the national cancer is to

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Speaker 12: end through the drug companies they cooperate and what's called

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Speaker 12: cancer cooperatives. What we've done at the Wellness company is

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Speaker 12: in a sense be a disruptive force and allowed patients

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Speaker 12: to make their choice, and we tracked what happened and

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Speaker 12: it was very, very favorable.

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Speaker 1: What a novel idea of putting the patient back and

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Speaker 1: control of their health is. We almost forgot that used

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Speaker 1: to exists before COVID, before we let you go. I

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Speaker 1: had a long interview today with Senning around Johnson. He

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Speaker 1: continues to find really significant evidence that strong signals of

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Speaker 1: safety concerns with the COVID vacor scene were swept under

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Speaker 1: the rug for two or three years. All Right, we

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Speaker 1: started with a hard inflammation for young people. Now it's

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Speaker 1: a skepmic stroke for older people. He says, there may

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Speaker 1: be another round of disclosures coming soon. How did we

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Speaker 1: get to a point where doctors sought and the medical

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Speaker 1: stablish thought it's okay to hide something that might be

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Speaker 1: a signal of danger to patients.

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Speaker 12: They were led by the public health agencies. And what

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Speaker 12: he's talking about is a report on stroke where our

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Speaker 12: public health agencies actually changed the verbiage in the report

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Speaker 12: to make it less serious, make it less concerning, in

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Speaker 12: the description of these vaccine induced strokes. So we have

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Speaker 12: to take a very careful look at our public health agencies.

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Speaker 12: They should be putting patient safety first and not trying

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Speaker 12: to push the pharmaceuticals and the vaccines and other products,

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Speaker 12: and so things got backwards. And Boy Johnson is an

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Speaker 12: American hero in putting Americans first in terms of their

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Speaker 12: drug and vaccine safety.

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Speaker 3: It really has been a clear um voice on Capitol

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Speaker 3: Hill about this. One more question before we let you go.

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Speaker 3: I know you said that this study, these are preliminary findings,

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Speaker 3: and there are some other official things that have to happen.

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Speaker 3: But once that happens, is there any chance in the

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Speaker 3: world that the establishment medical community is going.

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Speaker 4: To embrace it? Will they be forced to because of

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Speaker 4: their patients.

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Speaker 12: Well, things are moving along. There are a few cancer

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Speaker 12: trials individually of ivermectin and bat bani isol. What needs

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Speaker 12: to happen now is large scale clinical trials, largely in

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Speaker 12: solid organ tumors of the combination. And I think at

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Speaker 12: higher doses. You know, the most common dose was one

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Speaker 12: capsule a day, that's twenty five, two fifty, but in

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Speaker 12: fact some use actually use two or even three or four.

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Speaker 12: I think we need to move to higher doses and

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Speaker 12: do a large prospective, double blind, randomized specific control trials.

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Speaker 12: We understand the safety profile here, so I think now

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Speaker 12: it's a full steam ahead in terms of large scale trials.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable when you look at that safety profile compared to

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Speaker 3: again the side effects of things like chemo and radiation,

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Speaker 3: there just is absolutely no comparison. World renowned doctor and

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Speaker 3: chief scientific officer at the Wellness Company, doctor Peter McCullough,

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming and thanks for this

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Speaker 3: great news.

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Speaker 3: The economy remains a key topic of course ahead of midterms,

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Speaker 3: and if you remember, not too long ago, during the

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Speaker 13: Hi, thanks for having me, Amanda.

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Speaker 3: A lot has changed since the last time we spoke

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Speaker 3: to you. Talked to us about the Texas Stock Exchange expanding,

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Speaker 3: expanding access for a lot of people.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, it's it's pretty exciting. The New York

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Speaker 13: Stock Exchange has opened up a Texas Stock Exchange to

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Speaker 13: give people in Texas the opportunity to trade there. So

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Speaker 13: we are dual listed both on New York and Texas.

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Speaker 13: And as you know, being a conservative fund ourselves, we

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Speaker 13: have people in Texas understand what we're doing, and so

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Speaker 13: that dual listing is very exciting for us. We came

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Speaker 13: And to Ryan remind everybody that ticker, it's a CVF.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so important and so novel. I want to turn

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Speaker 1: to the power of shareholder movements. The left did it

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Speaker 1: for well over a decade, then you came to Bear

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Speaker 1: and we've add some victories with places like Disney and Target.

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Speaker 1: What's the next phase for conservatives to make this lasting

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Speaker 1: tool in the toolbox and keeping corporate America focused on

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, you know, I think there's still a number

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Speaker 13: of areas that we can work on, John. I mean,

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Speaker 13: I think the d banking thing that the Trump family

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Speaker 13: has has brought ahead to is something that we need

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Speaker 13: to continue to monitor. You know, Christian organizations, Christian not

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Speaker 13: for profits, Conservative organizations not having the ability to have

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Speaker 13: open bank accounts at certain institutions is an issue, and we,

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Speaker 13: of course have been on top of that all along.

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Speaker 13: I think, like Amanda said in our intro, you know

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Speaker 13: DEI and some of those things have fallen by the wayside,

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Speaker 13: but we need we still need to keep diligent because

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Speaker 13: we believe that they're just renaming it and there's still

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Speaker 13: a lot of that going on within the C suites

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Speaker 13: because you know, these people, a lot of them are

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Speaker 13: are certainly progressive liberals, and they're going to want to

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Speaker 13: continue with those initiatives, and we need to monitor that

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Speaker 13: and make sure that the boardrooms and the c suites

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Speaker 13: are not doing DEI and and things like that, or

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Speaker 13: or critical race theory in their trainings and and so,

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Speaker 13: you know, it's our job to monitor corporations and ensure

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Speaker 13: that they're they're they're not hurting Republicans and they're and

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Speaker 13: they're not squelching Republican voices.

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Speaker 3: Tom and now you talk to a lot of heads

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Speaker 3: of companies for companies out there that are just basically

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Speaker 3: rebranding wokeness and DEI. Are they doing it because they

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Speaker 3: believe in it? Are they doing it because they are

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Speaker 3: placating woke board members? Why are they still doing it

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Speaker 3: because it can be quite destructive to your bottom line.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's it's a.

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Speaker 13: Great question, and I'm not sure we know the answer

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Speaker 13: to it. You know, I think that the tech companies,

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Speaker 13: they try to placate a lot of times their workforce.

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Speaker 13: You know a lot of these companies are on the

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Speaker 13: left coast in California, Washington, Oregon, and I think their

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Speaker 13: workforce is oftentimes progressive, and so they try to placate them.

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Speaker 13: You know, I think sometimes it is it is the

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Speaker 13: board members as well, but we think that it's more

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Speaker 13: because the to so loud and to John's point earlier,

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Speaker 13: conservatives events so quiet, and so we're trying to open

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Speaker 13: up that dialogue for conservatives to be much louder about

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Speaker 13: the fact that companies are doing this and waking conservatives

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Speaker 13: up to the fact that where the companies they invest

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Speaker 13: in may not be sharing their values and we want

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Speaker 13: we want to make that clear.

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Speaker 3: We got thirty seconds tell everybody where they can find

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Speaker 3: out more.

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Speaker 13: You can find out more at invest conservative dot com.

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Speaker 13: And again, the ticker symbol for the American Conservative Values

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Speaker 13: Fund is ACVF. You know, we're trying to track the

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Speaker 13: S and P five hundred performance as closely as we

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Speaker 13: can while investing with your values. That's our goal. And

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Speaker 13: we appreciate you guys having us on and let us

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Speaker 13: letting us talk about the things that conservatives should be

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Speaker 13: conserned about in the financial markets.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, President and co founder of the American Conservative Values ATF,

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Speaker 3: Tom Carter, thanks so much for being with us tonight,

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Speaker 3: and that's going to do it for us. We we'll

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Speaker 3: be back here tomorrow night at x ME and Eastern,

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Speaker 3: have a good one and