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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Center. Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: the country. We've got a lot to talk about in

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Speaker 1: today's show and Center. I tell you what, it's a

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Speaker 1: very interesting moment with this new breaking news that apparently

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of spying going on on people

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Speaker 1: in and around Donald Trump, including the FBI director Cash Paatel.

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Speaker 2: Well, just when you think the abuse of power from

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Speaker 2: the Joe Biden Department of Justice and FBI could not

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Speaker 2: get worse, it gets worse. We now have evidence that

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Speaker 2: the Biden FBI spied upon number one Susie Wiles, who

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Speaker 2: was then President Trump's campaign manager. Number two Cash Patel,

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Speaker 2: who is obviously now the director of the FBI, they

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Speaker 2: spied on him when he was a private citizen. We're

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Speaker 2: going to break that down. It is part of a

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Speaker 2: broader pattern of the Democrats being willing to abuse power,

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Speaker 2: do anything humanly possible to stop the Trump from being reelected.

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Speaker 2: The good news is they failed. Secondly, we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about a tale of two Olympians. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about the comparison between Alissa Lou and Eileen Goo,

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Speaker 2: and the two are about as far apart as they

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Speaker 2: could possibly be. They both competed in the Olympics, they

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Speaker 2: competed for different countries, and the media reacted fundamentally differently.

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Speaker 2: One is a powerful inspirational story, the other less. So

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Speaker 2: we're going to break that down, and then finally we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about what is really concerning. Data that

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Speaker 2: Democrats are not proud to be American. Well, we saw

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Speaker 2: that on display at the State of the Union, but

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Speaker 2: we're also seeing that in polling numbers in a way

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Speaker 2: that is really concerning and it points to a broader

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Speaker 2: problem in our society. We're going to lay out the

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Speaker 2: data and talk about what it means.

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Speaker 1: When I also take a moment and talk to you

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Speaker 1: So let's get into this first topic. It is a

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Speaker 1: wild one. Every time you think that the deep state

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Speaker 1: can't get any worse than something like this happens. Allegedly. Now,

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Speaker 1: the FBI under Biden was secretly obtaining and I'm quoting now,

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Speaker 1: Susie Wilde, that's the chief of staff of the President

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Speaker 1: United States America's phone records, including from when she was

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Speaker 1: Trump's campaign manager. And they even recorded, apparently a phone

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Speaker 1: they were also spying on him also at the same time,

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Speaker 1: So like why not, right, it's the Joe Biden's FBI,

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Speaker 2: So we now know that the Biden, FBI, and Dojing

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Speaker 2: under Jack Smith, it was engaged in a massive dragnet,

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Speaker 2: Donald J. Trump. They subpoened the phone records of twenty

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Speaker 2: they subpeened my phone records, by the way, not just

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Speaker 2: my personal phone records. They literally subpoened my office phone records. Now,

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Speaker 2: these guys were actually not very competent with respect to me.

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Speaker 2: They subpoened the general number in my office that has

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Speaker 2: every person who calls in to complain about a pothole,

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Speaker 2: now released is that they also, in addition to four

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Speaker 2: after Susie Wiles and Cash Pattel. Here's what CBS reported. Quote.

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Speaker 2: At least ten f FBI employees who worked for former

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Speaker 2: subpoenaed records of phone calls made by FBI Director Cash

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Speaker 2: probe into Trump. The Reuter's article quoted Patel, who alleged

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Speaker 2: case involving the twenty twenty election, known as Arctic Frost.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that that is named after a disease

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Speaker 2: that strikes oranges in the state of Florida, like the

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Speaker 2: fruit oranges that like. Let's get clear on this. The

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Speaker 2: They're not subtle if you look at this. What is interesting,

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Speaker 2: and the the FBI intercepted the call. And then the

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Speaker 2: intercepting the call. Now now I've googled this, this evening

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Speaker 2: her lawyer at the time, a guy named Hank Cox, claims,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. I don't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: I've never I've never known of any client of mine

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Speaker 2: I got to say my reaction. And you know you

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Speaker 2: read a minute ago that story. It may not have

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of criminal conduct I could be representing

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Speaker 1: What you for a dollar one time? That's the retainer,

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Speaker 1: is how I look at it.

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Speaker 2: But the idea for any lawyer that you would know

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Speaker 2: would be disparked, You would lose your license, like.

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Speaker 1: You would lose your license if you did that. Correct,

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Speaker 1: you're a part of that.

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Speaker 2: So before we started recording this, I literally jumped on

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Speaker 2: you can't do that. That means you don't get to

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Speaker 2: I don't know this particular fellow, Hank Cox, but he

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Speaker 2: I hope we drilled down and find the facts. Regardless

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Speaker 2: of propriety other than get Trump Orange Man bad at

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Speaker 1: I want to go to the politics of this for

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Speaker 1: If you are spying on and listening in on Susie Wilds,

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Speaker 1: it's like, why not do it? And then you're spying

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, all right, who are going to be

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Speaker 2: Well, Ben, as you know, the third book I wrote

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Speaker 2: was called Justice Corrupted, How the Left has weaponized the

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Speaker 2: legal system and trace the history of it. It started

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Speaker 2: with Richard Nixon. I'm not a fan of Richard Dixon.

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Speaker 2: I think the man was a total and complete crook. Now,

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Speaker 2: I also think the deep conspired against him. And yet,

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Speaker 2: even as bad as it was, there was a limit

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Speaker 2: a number of people in the deep state resisted Nixon's

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Speaker 2: efforts to weaponize government against his political opponents. What Richard

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Speaker 2: much of this cancer in the government started with Barack Obama,

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Speaker 2: who turned the machinery of the federal government into a

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Speaker 2: doing that. The IRS was weaponized, the FBI was weaponized,

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Speaker 2: the DOJ was weaponized, the alphabet soup, every federal agency

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Speaker 2: was weaponized to go after Obama's political opponents. Then, to

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Speaker 2: the shock of all of them, Donald Trump gets elected

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. Now we know that the Obama DOJ

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Speaker 2: was spying on Donald Trump the first time he ran.

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Speaker 2: And when he.

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Speaker 1: Came into ARNI said that everybody said he was crazy lying.

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Speaker 2: Remember the media laughed at him. It was totally right.

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Speaker 1: There were so many cool stories out of the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Alyssa Lou became the face of Team USA, but the

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Speaker 2: and I want everyone to know. Ben is like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: people who are from other countries. They compete for other

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Speaker 2: countries and no one is horrified and they're not like

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Speaker 2: you're a horrible human being.

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Speaker 1: But let me say here's the difference.

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Speaker 2: It's different. It is different, But go ahead.

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Speaker 1: It's the reason why this one's different is when you

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Speaker 1: grow up in America and you do everything in America

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Speaker 1: and you're part of this country and this country supports you,

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Speaker 1: and then because someone throws money at you, you defect

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Speaker 1: to communists China. That's the difference between if you come

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Speaker 1: into the league from another country and you play in

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Speaker 1: the NBA and then you go back to Like when

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Speaker 1: I played tennis, a lot of the guys from smaller

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Speaker 1: countries would go back and play Davis Cup or the

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Speaker 1: Olympics for their team. It was awesome, Like there was

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Speaker 1: teammates of mine that made their Olympic team. There was

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Speaker 1: from you know, Kazakhstan or smaller nations and they were

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Speaker 1: the best in their country. That's not defecting from America, right,

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Speaker 1: But when you're in America and your American and then

447
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Speaker 1: you're like, all right, I'm literally defecting and gonna go

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Speaker 1: do this for China and it's solely for a big payday.

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Speaker 1: It was from an athlete standpoint, I get the money.

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Speaker 1: But it is different than if you're in the NBA

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Speaker 1: and you're from France, like Martin Gasol and Paegasol, and

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Speaker 1: they go and play against the USA in that game, like,

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Speaker 1: I have no qualms about that. That's where you were raised.

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Speaker 2: To be clear, the Gasols are from Spain, not France.

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Speaker 2: Different wherever it is. But we Latins don't like when

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Speaker 2: you call us French like that. That is getting it wrong.

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Speaker 1: You the power and mark there you go, Okay.

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Speaker 2: You're right that it's different. You know, Victor wemen Yama's French.

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Speaker 2: You grew up in France, like his whole background is that.

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Speaker 2: So it is different when you go and play for

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Speaker 2: the country you were born and grew up in. Both

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Speaker 2: Alyssa and Eileen were born in and grew up in America,

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Speaker 2: so that is different. That being said that, there was

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Speaker 2: some real vitriol directed at Eileen, and listen, she's a

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Speaker 2: twenty year old Olympic athlete. I don't have anger towards her.

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Speaker 2: But my view is simple. If you decide I want

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Speaker 2: to compete for China, I want to win the gold

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Speaker 2: medal for China, you can do that, but you know

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Speaker 2: what you're saying, I want one point three billion people

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Speaker 2: in China to root for me, and I want to

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Speaker 2: beat the United States of America. Well, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to root for you. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: root for the for the athletes that say I'm competing

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Speaker 2: for America, I'm not. I thought people were a little

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Speaker 2: bit overwrought in condemning Aileenu. I don't know her at all,

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Speaker 2: and she's a talented athlete and she's, you know, a

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Speaker 2: twenty year old kid. But she made the decision she

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Speaker 2: wants the Chinese to root for and she does not

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Speaker 2: want America to root for. It. To be clear, when

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Speaker 2: she made that decision, she's saying, I want the United

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Speaker 2: States of America to lose. Yeah, that's a decision I

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Speaker 2: disagree with. And the contrast with Alyssa Lu, she was

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Speaker 2: offered millions.

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Speaker 1: Senator, I also think this really cool part of the

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Speaker 1: story is Alisilu's father. We mentioned that earlier, but like,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that sacrificed everything, had to flee

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Speaker 1: the country, comes to America. He is literally being attacked

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Speaker 1: and still being hunted by the Chinese government to the

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Speaker 1: point where the FBI is coming after him, and on

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Speaker 1: top of that, stays focus to make his daughter an

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Speaker 1: Olympic gold medalist while having to look over his shoulder,

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Speaker 1: to the point where the FBI had to give them protection.

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Speaker 1: That's the best part of the story as well, Like

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Speaker 1: they love this country. They didn't take the money. By

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Speaker 1: the way they took the money, I'm assuming they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: need protection anymore.

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Speaker 2: Right, Look, he was incredibly driven. He raised his daughter.

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Speaker 2: She was extraordinary. And I will say one aspect of

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Speaker 2: this story that I really like. According to the Internet,

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Speaker 2: according to Twitter, apparently Alissa lou is politically liberal and

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Speaker 2: so leftists are like you, conservatives can't cheer her on

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Speaker 2: because she is allegedly woke. I don't know she's political

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Speaker 2: liberal or not, but you know what, I don't care care.

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Speaker 2: She competed for America. When she was standing there, she

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Speaker 2: had the American flag around her shoulder. She's cheering up

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Speaker 2: as as the star spangled banner. She's cheering for America,

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Speaker 2: and I'm cheering for her. And I don't give a

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Speaker 2: damn if she votes for Barack Obama or Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: She's an American and I'm proud to cheer her on.

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Speaker 1: So now I want to go back to the dad.

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Speaker 1: Listen's father. He did an interview recently and it was

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Speaker 1: just a little bit about the story of the political

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Speaker 1: pressure that he was under. From China that they were

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Speaker 1: under from China, and just to be able to get

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Speaker 1: through this much pressure and still pursue the dreams of

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Speaker 1: your daughter is amazing. Take a listen, CLEA.

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Speaker 3: Head of the twenty twenty two Winter Alise in Beijing,

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Speaker 3: the Justice Department in FBI said that China actually sent

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Speaker 3: individuals to track and target you and your family, including

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Speaker 3: her ahead of the Olympics. Talk to us about what that.

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Speaker 3: What was Beijing's motivation? Were you afraid for her?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: Because of my background, because I was wanted by the

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Speaker 4: Chinese government back in nineteen eighty nine, and after I

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Speaker 4: came to America, I also continued to organize protests in

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Speaker 4: front of the Chinese Counselate in San Francisco, some protests

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Speaker 4: and hunger strikes in front of the Chinese embassy in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 4: The Chinese government never let me go and continue to

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Speaker 4: aspire me. And before the Winter Olympic Games in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty two, I was, you know, I got a phone

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Speaker 4: call from somebody who claimed to be from the US

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Speaker 4: Olympic Committee and wanted copies of my passport and Alisa's passport,

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Speaker 4: And then the FBI informed me that the Chinese government

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Speaker 4: is flying spying on me. And of course I was

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Speaker 4: concerned about a Lisa going to China to compete.

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Speaker 1: You listened to him talking about the concerns. Yeah, I'd

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Speaker 1: have a lot of concerns the father as well.

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Speaker 2: Of course, and and listen that this man loves his daughter.

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Speaker 2: And I got to say Alissa's Olympic gold performance it

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Speaker 2: was beautiful. I'm not particularly into figure skating. I got

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Speaker 2: to say, she did a gorgeous, uh performance. It was

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Speaker 2: there was a sense of joy and abandon and watching

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Speaker 2: it that that that was really fabulous and and it

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Speaker 2: and it made you, It made you really happy for her.

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Speaker 2: It made you cheer her on. There's there's a great image.

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Speaker 2: I love a photo taken from above as she's like

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Speaker 2: spinning and looking up and that there's a level of

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Speaker 2: just reckless abandon and it's not reckless about it. It's

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Speaker 2: actually incredibly controlled, joyful skill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But but look, it made you proud of America. And

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Speaker 2: I got to say, you would think everyone to be

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Speaker 2: proud of America watching that. But what is amazing. So

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Speaker 2: there was recent polling numbers that came out from Gallup

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Speaker 2: that are highly concerning that showed that that not everyone

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Speaker 2: is proud of America anymore. And if you look at

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Speaker 2: just the generic question, US adults pride in being American

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Speaker 2: twenty one to twenty twenty five. So in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and one, eighty seven percent said they were extremely very proud.

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Speaker 2: By twenty twenty five that had dropped to fifty eight percent.

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Speaker 2: Eighty seven to fifty eight. That's a massive decrease. And

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Speaker 2: you might say, well, I don't know what's driving that,

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Speaker 2: But actually the second chart is even more concerning because

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Speaker 2: it's not just everyone's losing faith in America. It's not

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Speaker 2: just that everyone is no longer proud of being an American.

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Speaker 2: It's very particular and ideological. It is democrats, it is liberals.

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Speaker 2: And I want to focus on this chart that Gallup

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Speaker 2: put out. So in two thousand and one, ninety percent

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Speaker 2: of Republicans were very proud of being American, eighty seven

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Speaker 2: percent of Democrats were very proud of being American. So

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Speaker 2: there's not really a partisan divide. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: eighty four percent of independence were very proud, and so

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Speaker 2: it was a two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, get ready, folks, you're about to yeah Okay.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five years ago it was ninety percent, eighty seven

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Speaker 2: eighty four, So they were all clustered, they were all

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Speaker 2: within a few points of each other. Basically, everyone, whether

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Speaker 2: you were a Democrat or Republican, everyone eighty seven ninety

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Speaker 2: percent percent. I'm very proud of being an American. So let's

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Speaker 2: fast forward to two thousand and five. So two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five, two thousand and one, ninety percent of Republicans

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Speaker 2: were very proud of American to be American. In two

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Speaker 2: thousand and five, ninety two percent of Republicans are very

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Speaker 2: proud to be an American. So it actually has gone

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Speaker 2: up a little bit for Republicans. What has happened for independence?

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Speaker 2: So independence were at eighty four percent, and in twenty

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Speaker 2: five years it's dropped from eighty four percent to fifty

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Speaker 2: three percent.

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Speaker 1: So almost a fifty to fifty split. That you're prideful

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Speaker 1: in this country and you don't have pride in this country.

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Speaker 1: That's among independence.

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Speaker 2: That's scared, Okay, And I want to say the next

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Speaker 2: stat is even more horrifying. So Democrats in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and one, eighty seven percent of Democrats, I'm very proud

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Speaker 2: to be an American. What do you think the number

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Speaker 2: is in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: I think the majority of Democrats hate this country, So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Percent, So it's not quite that bad, but it's thirty

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Speaker 2: six percent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, and it again to twenty eight and

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Speaker 1: a few more years, I guarantee you that.

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Speaker 2: So it went from eighty seven percent to thirty six percent.

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Speaker 2: So the differential. If you're a Republican, ninety two percent

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Speaker 2: of you are proud to be an American. If you're Democrat,

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Speaker 2: only thirty six percent are very proud to be an American.

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Speaker 2: I got to say that is.

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Speaker 1: How much of that center do you think is our

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Speaker 1: public school? Says some of our universities like training up

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Speaker 1: an entire generation to be a shade of America.

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Speaker 2: It's indoctrinating leftists. And part of leftism is that America

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Speaker 2: is evil. We are colonialist, oppressive nation. They're taught that

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Speaker 2: capitalism is evil, and frankly, look, going back to the

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Speaker 2: story we just covered again, I don't know Eileen Goo,

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Speaker 2: but she's at Stanford. I assume she's been raised by

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Speaker 2: leftists all her life. You know, she was asked, what

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Speaker 2: do you think about the Communist Party committing a genic

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Speaker 2: side against Wiggers, having over a million Wigers in concentration camps.

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Speaker 2: And she said, hey, that's not my problem. I'm not

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Speaker 2: worried about it. I don't mean the past judgment on her.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying that is the fruit of leftists

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Speaker 2: controlling our education system. That's saying you cannot have a

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Speaker 2: view is mass murder good or bad. I'm sorry leftists

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Speaker 2: say no, America is always bad. You cannot have a

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Speaker 2: view on over a million people in concentration camps, on

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Speaker 2: human slavery, on torture, on murder. No, no, no, America

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Speaker 2: is always bad. And look, we saw this at the

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Speaker 2: State of the Union. The moment that I thought defined

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Speaker 2: the whole State of the Union address is when President

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Speaker 2: Trump turned to the Democrats and he said, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give you a chance to decide right now, stand

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Speaker 2: up if you believe our first priority should be to

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Speaker 2: fight for American citizens and not illegal aliens. And every

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Speaker 2: single Democrat, all of them, one hundred percent, stayed sitting.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that image is going to be played

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Speaker 2: on a million campaign ads. I was talking to a

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Speaker 2: very senior official in the Trump White House today and

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Speaker 2: I was congratulating him on an incredibly successful State of

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Speaker 2: the Union and I brought that up. I said that

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Speaker 2: was the moment. He kind of laughed and he said, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I argued against that. He said, I didn't think it

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Speaker 2: would work. I didn't think they would fall for that.

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Speaker 2: I thought they'd all stand up. Yeah, and he said,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was at best fifty fifty. It's amazing,

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Speaker 2: not a single look. I'm not very good at putting

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Speaker 2: myself in the shoes of being a Democrat, but I would.

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Speaker 1: Think that's a good thing. By the way.

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Speaker 2: That's again, if I was a Democrat and heard that,

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Speaker 2: I would have stood up and said, yeah, we stand

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Speaker 2: for American citizens and not illegals. Like of course, twelve

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Speaker 2: seconds ago, that would have been what they did. They're

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Speaker 2: all so indoctrinated that every single one said, nope, we're

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Speaker 2: with illegals and not American citizens. That's tragic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. Don't forget. We do the show as

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Speaker 1: a podcast three days a week. So down with Verdict

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Speaker 1: with Ted Cruz wherever you get your podcasts and the

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Speaker 1: Center and I will see you back here on this

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Speaker 1: radio station next week and on the podcast all week long,