Speaker 1: This episode of Busting with the Boys. The Boys is
Speaker 1: brought to you by Barstool Sports, and guys, we were
Speaker 1: fired up to drop this George Kittle episode. If you
Speaker 1: guys are unfamiliar with George Kittle, get familiar with him.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best tight ends in the NFL,
Speaker 1: arguably the best. He plays for the San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers. He's known as the People's tight end because
Speaker 1: he's a huge wrestling fan. We actually get into his
Speaker 1: obsession with the WWE. In twenty nineteen, he set a
Speaker 1: record for most receiving yards by season from a tight end.
Speaker 1: He also brought his dad. Shout out, Bruce Kittle. He
Speaker 1: brought him on the bus and it was a blast.
Speaker 1: He had some good insight chirp Taylor a little bit
Speaker 1: due to badass man. It was fun having him on.
Speaker 1: He played for Iowa. Both of them played it. I
Speaker 1: think that's true.
Speaker 2: I think they both played at Iowa.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm john a blankret.
Speaker 2: Now set you guys know how it is.
Speaker 1: But George played at Iowa, So we talk about Nebraska Iowa.
Speaker 1: Of course, we talk about the forty nine ers playoff
Speaker 1: front what super Bowl? Super Bowl Media week is like
Speaker 1: who would have won Titan verus forty nine ers had
Speaker 1: the Titans beat the Chiefs, So they argue a little
Speaker 1: bit about that. Playing for coach Shanahan, we ask him
Speaker 1: the question, would you rather not make the playoffs or
Speaker 1: losing the Super Bowl like they did? Why some people
Speaker 1: call him Greg, which is a funny ass story we
Speaker 1: hit on in college when he had to check himself
Speaker 1: and look himself in the mirror and give up partying
Speaker 1: for football, So he kind of explains a big transitional
Speaker 1: point in.
Speaker 2: His football career.
Speaker 1: We also talk about visualization and how that plays into
Speaker 1: our game. George talks about his reset button and his
Speaker 1: joker tattoo, how important George's dad is in his life,
Speaker 1: which is a phenomenal story in itself. Our favorite bars
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, on the bus. We probably already get an
Speaker 3: intro for this. We do the intros after and the outros.
Speaker 2: We do what do we do outros?
Speaker 1: We do whatever we want.
Speaker 3: We do whatever we want because it's our bus, it's
Speaker 3: our show. Brought on George Kittle, his almost super Bowl Champ,
Speaker 3: almost super Bowl Champ. We'll get we'll get into all that.
Speaker 3: But a surprise guest, his father, Bruce, which is the
Speaker 3: most dad name of all time. So congratulations on that.
Speaker 2: That'sable.
Speaker 3: It was My father's name was Bruce.
Speaker 1: He came right in and he was ready to be
Speaker 1: ready to it at us.
Speaker 3: So how did you find out about busting with the Boys?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: I can't remember, it's like three four months ago or
Speaker 4: something like that. But I got a Google alert for
Speaker 4: George's kind of following track and stuff, and your show
Speaker 4: popped up and I'd never heard of it, so I, okay,
Speaker 4: it's just about so I popping on and then I
Speaker 4: got to listen to it and if it's going away,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, you guys go on
Speaker 4: this rant about kind of the dipshits, that colored glasses
Speaker 4: with no prescription, the blue light kind of balls, and
Speaker 4: then I think Michigan boy there kind of went off
Speaker 4: and like.
Speaker 3: He does that. Michigan said, I love that.
Speaker 1: You turned to his board just wrote yeah, like the.
Speaker 3: Guy from Billy Madison with the lipstick puts it on
Speaker 3: on the couch. Thank god, I called that guy. Did
Speaker 3: you do you play college sports?
Speaker 2: Of all I did? I played?
Speaker 3: You played Okay. So this is like a family lineage
Speaker 3: of going to Iowa City and playing ball there hard
Speaker 3: place to play, yeah, Kinnick, Yeah, are you all'll from Iowa? Really? How?
Speaker 3: What's that like?
Speaker 1: Living idiots out wandering around?
Speaker 3: That's what I owe the world and apology. That's how
Speaker 3: I always remember in Iowa.
Speaker 2: Those work for me.
Speaker 1: What did you say?
Speaker 2: It's better than Nebraska?
Speaker 3: I owe the world and apology. Nebraska is essentially the
Speaker 3: same thing as.
Speaker 2: Iowa, except it's flat, like Iowa has nice rolling hills
Speaker 2: and actually good corn. Yeah. I don't know what Nebraska has.
Speaker 3: Oh you took, you took everything they stand for. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so this is you can't.
Speaker 1: Not being from Nebraska. I can't speak on the car part.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fine, but you went there.
Speaker 3: You chose to go there. I got an offer there
Speaker 3: and I went outside.
Speaker 2: If you mind an hour outside of Lincoln.
Speaker 4: My dad's from McCook, which is like almost it's it's
Speaker 4: about halfway all the way to Colorado. There's nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's absolutely nothing in Iowa. You'll you'll be driving
Speaker 1: and not stop at a stop sign and just go
Speaker 1: coast right on through, and you'll just see a town
Speaker 1: of one hundred and two people.
Speaker 2: Yeahazing, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad's hometown ninety four people. Right, and the
Speaker 4: next town literally is sixty five miles away. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: and then and it's only paved north and south. Everything
Speaker 4: else going east and west all gravel or dirt.
Speaker 1: And they say there's more cows than people, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did, no doubt between cows, pigs and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: not in clothes.
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to flip the
Speaker 3: script at all because we happen going a little hard
Speaker 3: on Iowa. But that's kind of a cool like way
Speaker 3: of life, kind of do it, do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Everyone knows each other. Yeah, you get a lot of
Speaker 3: trouble growing up. You seem like one of those guys.
Speaker 1: This is Nebraska.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I Nebraska was Nebraska.
Speaker 3: It's okay, I'm taking those are the same states. To me,
Speaker 3: there's probably like fifteen states Nebraska.
Speaker 1: I was a big deal that border, is it really?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It is to those folks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah to those.
Speaker 3: Now are you still like big Iowa Hawkeye guy?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I kind of graduated when he did, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? So it's I mean, it was all good.
Speaker 4: It's been good to It was good to me when
Speaker 4: I was there, and it was I did that and
Speaker 4: then went to graduate school learn all that. So the
Speaker 4: university has been good and all that, the program and
Speaker 4: they were great to George. So we're all good, but
Speaker 4: you know, we were kind of ready to move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up a Nebraska fan then? Since your dad?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I brought my dad's heart.
Speaker 4: So I got recruited by Nebraska and Iowa die and
Speaker 4: when when'd you play there?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: I graduated high school in seventy seven, so I was
Speaker 4: there fall seventy seven through eighty one, co captain eighty
Speaker 4: one rose ball team. So we didn't make it finally,
Speaker 4: but solid. Yeah, so there you go. And uh yeah,
Speaker 4: so no Tom Osborne. Actually the highlight of my dad's
Speaker 4: life is still because he had two brothers and they
Speaker 4: all went to Nebraska my grandfather everybody and got offered
Speaker 4: by Nebraska and dieland a couple ers and anyway, end
Speaker 4: up going to iowand my grandfather was so.
Speaker 1: Did they get to meet Tom?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, it was a big deal. He had.
Speaker 4: Tom would show up and then he pulled out back
Speaker 4: then they had the big red gum with that kind
Speaker 4: of sticks, and so that was his closer. You know,
Speaker 4: he's going, well, he'd slide the big red gum across.
Speaker 4: He goes, We hope you choose big.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like, hey, there's more where that came thing.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: That was very cool. My dad was just that was
Speaker 4: his big day.
Speaker 3: The and then you broke your family's heart. Yeah, would
Speaker 3: you like to take the time to apologize.
Speaker 2: To your family? No, it was all good.
Speaker 3: Hey put it out there. We're all about second chances
Speaker 3: on all.
Speaker 1: Of the older people in Bonta, Missouri. When Tom came
Speaker 1: to visit were I had teachers. There were teachers sprinting
Speaker 1: down the hallway to get his autograph. Really, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was insane. Tom is a legend.
Speaker 2: He's a legend. He is.
Speaker 4: He's a great, great man, and I mean he was
Speaker 4: terrific about everything. He was it was an honor to
Speaker 4: have him call into all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: That's pretty badass. Was good, But what was the deciding
Speaker 3: fight that took you to Iowa? George went to you
Speaker 3: in a second. Yeah, just switched, no doubt you got
Speaker 3: it all said up.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: A part of was a little bit of familiarity, but
Speaker 4: it's just, uh, you know, I I wrestled, and I
Speaker 4: knew a bunch of the guys in the state, and
Speaker 4: just we had so many you know, kind of guys
Speaker 4: that decided to go there, and it was just kind
Speaker 4: of clan thing. I think kind of our graduating class
Speaker 4: tried to want to make a difference and I thought
Speaker 4: we'd stay at home. So that was a big chunk
Speaker 4: of it. So but I don't know, know, and the
Speaker 4: rest was good and all that just they were just
Speaker 4: a tad full of themselves, honestly, just you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, because I mean you had the two national
Speaker 4: titles and all that kind of stuff, and they kind
Speaker 4: of pat their chest a little bit like you're just
Speaker 4: supposed to drop over and think they're the greatest thing.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it wasn't all that good.
Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, I'd probably be untouchable if we won
Speaker 1: Natty Natty's when I was there, but we didn't know
Speaker 1: we were like nine for the entire time. I was
Speaker 1: underfeaated against Iowa. Though when was your first year there?
Speaker 2: Twenty twelve?
Speaker 1: That might have been my scene? Was Levante David playing still?
Speaker 1: Or was that when we came to you guys in
Speaker 1: like the zero.
Speaker 2: Degree weather it was negative twenty five, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't play that was you were dressed, no sleeves,
Speaker 2: of course, sleeps.
Speaker 1: But you're out there like frozen.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was miserable.
Speaker 2: Hey, best part about that game was so we were
Speaker 2: four and eleven and we sorry four and eight at
Speaker 2: the end of that, and there's fans behind us because
Speaker 2: I'm a fresh and I have no impact in the game.
Speaker 2: I'm saying by a heater, and their fans mind us,
Speaker 2: yelling us we're losing because our mindset is weak for
Speaker 2: send in front of a heater and there week. I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, my bad guys, but you ended up
Speaker 1: you ended up beating the you guys how many times
Speaker 1: you beat Nebraska?
Speaker 2: I beat Nebraska twice. I never lost at Lincoln. I'm
Speaker 2: two and oh there and then I won my senior year,
Speaker 2: we beat the absolute dog shit out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, like I think the last five
Speaker 1: years we've been struggling against Iowa. Yeah, fortunately though I
Speaker 1: was two.
Speaker 4: And oh so just to chime in, though, see we
Speaker 4: beat him on their rank fifth in the nation. My
Speaker 4: senior year where they came over, we hadn't had a
Speaker 4: winning season in twenty years, and Big Tom rolled in
Speaker 4: and yeah, we end up beat him. I think it
Speaker 4: was like twenty four to seventeen or something.
Speaker 2: They were number five, Yeah, either five.
Speaker 4: Or six something like that. That you know, it was
Speaker 4: the second game of the season.
Speaker 1: Did you guys store them the field?
Speaker 4: The crowd, Oh was sick. Yeah, I bet it. That's awesome, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was. It was crazy. That was a big one
Speaker 4: for us. That was really fun.
Speaker 3: Do you think that's one of the issues that nebrask
Speaker 3: has now they're a little too full of themselves.
Speaker 4: Well, I just think they thought it was going to
Speaker 4: be easy to reload, and it's just you know, with
Speaker 4: recruiting and the parody and everything like that, and with
Speaker 4: recruiting rules and all that kind of because then back
Speaker 4: in my day, I mean they every freshman was on
Speaker 4: a freshman team and you used a year of eligibility
Speaker 4: and then they read share to you and the freshman
Speaker 4: team had one hundred and fifty guys on it.
Speaker 3: That's wild.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's wild. You know, it just was that
Speaker 4: is nuts. It was crazy. I mean you you'd come
Speaker 4: out and you they'd walk over to the freshman They
Speaker 4: were like totally separate. So, I mean they had practically
Speaker 4: three hundred bodies that were part of Nebraska football during
Speaker 4: that time. So it's just a whole different thing. The
Speaker 4: way they recruited. They just gave out as many scholarships
Speaker 4: as they needed to. They would just recruit enough people.
Speaker 4: Even if you couldn't play for them, you couldn't play
Speaker 4: for anybody else. Really, Yeah, there was just so many bodies.
Speaker 4: So it was just a whole different philosophy back then
Speaker 4: before they kind of cut everything down.
Speaker 3: Yes, wild, It's crazy the transition that happens between like
Speaker 3: college college teams. Like in the nineties early two thousands,
Speaker 3: Michigan was extremely relevant, you know, the U Miami eighties
Speaker 3: and nineties, and then Nebraska was a big deal. USC
Speaker 3: wh I was coming out of high school. I graduate
Speaker 3: high school twosand and nine and it was like USC Texas, Florida.
Speaker 3: Tim Teba was there then and so that was like
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like just these ebbs and flows.
Speaker 3: One thing that's kept together forever is Alabama with for
Speaker 3: the last decade and a half.
Speaker 1: Yea Alabama Clemson now though, Yeah.
Speaker 3: But Clemson has been I don't want to say relevant
Speaker 3: to be disrespectful, but like rolling from a national title standpoint,
Speaker 3: how long have they been It's been like just a
Speaker 3: few years, right, yeah, five six years. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 3: kind of like the trend. Then, like the next team
Speaker 3: will come in, the next team, but I think clemb
Speaker 3: is gonna get for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they probably will.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, they're solid, they're really good. They have
Speaker 3: a you know what, they have a lot of white
Speaker 3: boys in that team.
Speaker 2: They're really fat.
Speaker 3: There's so many white guys.
Speaker 1: Renfro shout out Hunter Renfrod really looks like a car salesman.
Speaker 1: But that dude can run some Wow. I'm talking scrappy
Speaker 1: out there on.
Speaker 2: The field, dude.
Speaker 3: A lot of white dudes on Clemson. I just gotta
Speaker 3: say that, it's just crazy, just crazy.
Speaker 1: They're carrying a heavy torch man. It's a heavy torch
Speaker 1: to carry it.
Speaker 3: So what do you want to do? You want to
Speaker 3: go back you had high school first? You want to
Speaker 3: hit this past Bill Clinton Tarantino? Which one do you want?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That one?
Speaker 3: Well do you want to do? Quinton Tarantino?
Speaker 1: Taylor's take us through?
Speaker 3: So you go play in the super Bowl? Yes, So
Speaker 3: before we go to the Super Bowl? Yep, double Clinton Tarantino.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, take us to NFC Championship. You guys play
Speaker 3: green Green Bay and donkey stomp Green Bay. No offense
Speaker 3: to Green Bay. Yeah, and so like you guys saying yourself,
Speaker 3: we're gonna win the Super Bowl, no problem.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean confidence was definitely high. Like I mean,
Speaker 2: I know they have a ton of great players. I mean,
Speaker 2: like one like thing for me, it's the NFL, Like
Speaker 2: everybody has great players. It's not like you're not playing
Speaker 2: a crappy college, right right, everyone has playmakers. So, like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think both teams confidence was incredibly high,
Speaker 2: just to like, you know, they what came back from
Speaker 2: two to twenty point deficits to get to the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl and we just curb stomp dudes two weeks in
Speaker 2: a row. So yeah, we were both pretty confident, you know,
Speaker 2: especially us with our run game. I mean I was.
Speaker 2: I was pumped about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You guys only threw the ball like eight times.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The Vikings game we had eight attempts and
Speaker 2: then the Packers game, I think we had eleven. Jimmy
Speaker 2: g had an hour were in between passing the football.
Speaker 2: Really yeah. He passed the ball like once in the
Speaker 2: beginning of the second quarter, and there was another pass
Speaker 2: until like ten minutes up in the third quarter.
Speaker 3: It's like a high that's a literally high school football.
Speaker 3: That's an offensive lineman's dream.
Speaker 2: It was my dream.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're you're a big fan of blocking, right.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the best, especially our scheme. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: What's your uh, what's your mission statement? Say your mission statement?
Speaker 1: There was something I read about your mission Statement's something
Speaker 1: about taking souls.
Speaker 2: That is one of mine. My favorite quote is moving
Speaker 2: a man from point A to point B against as well.
Speaker 2: It's the greatest feeling you never feel.
Speaker 3: You just said that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1: That's his favorite quote.
Speaker 3: No, you know who said? Do you know who said that?
Speaker 2: Coach?
Speaker 3: I believe that was Russ Grimm, Hall of Famer, part
Speaker 3: of the Hogs.
Speaker 4: Well, I know he did say it, but it's attributed.
Speaker 4: So my lineage with the Highway right, Kirk Farence came
Speaker 4: my senior year. Who's my line coach and I was
Speaker 4: on staff there for four seasons. So and his two
Speaker 4: his prime mentors were bad Rad who coached at Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: dur and the Steelers Heyday, and then Jill Moore. Really yeah,
Speaker 4: and so he always attributed to Jill Moore. And I
Speaker 4: heard Jill Moore when he visited us and we visited him.
Speaker 4: He would always say that. So if you ask coach fars,
Speaker 4: Kirk would always say it was it was the.
Speaker 2: Quoted for him multiple times and it just kind of
Speaker 2: always stuck with me.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. We had, uh, we had Russ Grim a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago, and he's i mean one of
Speaker 3: the Hogs Hall of famers already said that, but he
Speaker 3: was one of my favorite coaches of all time. And
Speaker 3: he would say that all the time and anytime we
Speaker 3: do a run game. Meaning he was simple. He never
Speaker 3: made anything too difficult. It wasn't like, hey, your landmarks
Speaker 3: should be this, your foot's got to be this. It
Speaker 3: was just, hey, you're deducing to this guy. Hey, you
Speaker 3: guys are doubling to that guy or whatever. And he
Speaker 3: would always say, take a guy from point eight from
Speaker 3: point a to point b against his will. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: It's when you when you take someone away. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a nice gig. Would you call that a hold?
Speaker 2: Did?
Speaker 3: No? It did not get called. That's totally fair.
Speaker 1: We're asking you, do you think it was?
Speaker 2: There's a holding on every single play.
Speaker 1: Right, but gl you had the nice.
Speaker 3: Down block to there.
Speaker 2: But did he get called? Way?
Speaker 3: Where were you?
Speaker 1: What were you doing when you're laying on the ground.
Speaker 1: You're just laughing.
Speaker 2: Laughing God, because I was like, that was really farm
Speaker 2: and easy.
Speaker 1: Was he saying anything to you?
Speaker 2: You have to do that?
Speaker 3: He said that because it's football.
Speaker 1: George is like yelling laughing down there.
Speaker 3: Who's the hardest guy you've had to block?
Speaker 2: Climax tough?
Speaker 3: Yeah, climaxes stud. He's a stud.
Speaker 2: He's pretty good.
Speaker 1: He looks like an animal out there.
Speaker 3: Clowney's pretty good to Yeah, Clowne's a stud. I played
Speaker 3: against Clowney in the Outback Bowl when he had that
Speaker 3: like infamous hit. Oh yeah, yeah, that was whose fault
Speaker 3: was that? It was a power scheme and I called
Speaker 3: deuce and then the tight end was like Trey. I
Speaker 3: was like, no, it's a deuced. I not put Yeah,
Speaker 3: put your boy right under this bus. He's under it.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: If this bus could run right now, he'd be under it.
Speaker 2: See. I saw a great quote from him after the game.
Speaker 2: It was like he's like, yeah, everyone's bating me for
Speaker 2: that block. But it wasn't my fault. I blocked the
Speaker 2: right guy, really because I remember like that.
Speaker 1: So what's the Titans name?
Speaker 3: No free shoutouts? He doesn't have.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought we were shouting up.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not I'm not gonna shut up, Kyle.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna shout hey.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 3: We can tell you what the third level block he went.
Speaker 2: He went for walk.
Speaker 3: And I'm out and I hit up.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 3: You guys kind of smack, kind of hit me.
Speaker 2: Why am I.
Speaker 3: Always getting smacked? If you would have scored then on
Speaker 3: display they did like it was like fourth down or something.
Speaker 3: Is the third down going to fourth down or fourth down?
Speaker 3: I would have been turnover and we missed the first
Speaker 3: down by like less than a foot, but they called
Speaker 3: it a first down and the next play this happened.
Speaker 1: And you guys ended up losing that game, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we end up losing this because I remember being all
Speaker 1: we were all pissed off because you want the Big
Speaker 1: ten to always beat that Yeah Bowl games and you
Speaker 1: guys are beating them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vincent Smith, there I am, and there I go.
Speaker 2: And okay, you're already you think right here, you're I mean,
Speaker 2: you're a tight end.
Speaker 1: What do we what are we seeing here?
Speaker 3: Boys?
Speaker 1: We gotta tackle this? Uh?
Speaker 3: The because they did a lot of movement. They went
Speaker 3: from A to B gap a lot. So if we
Speaker 3: had a two I at any time, we would douce through.
Speaker 2: If you left me on an island versus him, I
Speaker 2: would have I would have hated you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably, I'm sure he does too. He will say
Speaker 3: his name and he just kind of took say his
Speaker 3: name was?
Speaker 4: Where was the d lined up?
Speaker 2: Was he? He was a six I six I and
Speaker 2: you left him?
Speaker 3: Oh let's go, we got the Hey see do you
Speaker 3: see the guy that's in the two. They did a
Speaker 3: lot of slanty. They were movement type of team. And
Speaker 3: what is power power is a gap scheme play. That's
Speaker 3: your classic power play.
Speaker 2: And it's don't leave the title alone and also that
Speaker 2: he's gotta take better steps to get down.
Speaker 4: But you didn't have anybody to be gap.
Speaker 3: I know, because there's a two. If I've said it
Speaker 3: three times, I thought you did it after the second.
Speaker 1: Uh you coach at Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: Right, We're not gonna just walk past this real quick. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm getting abused on my own podcast right now. I
Speaker 3: will say that Vincent Smith was Vince Smith. He's like
Speaker 3: five to four. He's a short little guy, and he
Speaker 3: took this hit like a champ. All right, go ahead
Speaker 3: and move on, move on. He took it like a champ.
Speaker 3: Shout out Devon Garden for actually going for the ball.
Speaker 1: That was he. That was enjoyable.
Speaker 3: Well do you like that?
Speaker 1: It was just because he sat back in the tight end.
Speaker 1: Why would you do that? And you guys seem to
Speaker 1: talk the same language, so you know, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: observe and enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Seems like a fog sticking up for a son in
Speaker 3: a situation.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about yeah, yeah, that comes in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he heard deuce and he said, what, yeah, exactly?
Speaker 3: Has no idea? What how do you don't know what
Speaker 3: deuce means? You're a smart guy, though, that's your thing.
Speaker 1: I would get it if I said in offensive meetings
Speaker 1: for a week.
Speaker 3: But if you're not a universal term.
Speaker 1: Double double to the next level, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: I guess so sure that that actually would be a
Speaker 3: fair way to put it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you would. You would both double until somebody
Speaker 1: bruce gets it, until somebody shot a gap and you
Speaker 1: had to come off and hit.
Speaker 2: That yourselves and like triple as me and Taylor work
Speaker 2: together like it's deuced like a duo. Yeah, guard tackle okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: center garde.
Speaker 3: Du is more like a it's a gap scheme, play
Speaker 3: without a poller, right, yeah. And then power power basically,
Speaker 3: I will teach everybody how to block power right now,
Speaker 3: close your eyes, go to one o'clock. That's what you
Speaker 3: gotta do. And if you have a two I and
Speaker 3: they move a lot and it's a game plan, go
Speaker 3: into a bullet do what the coach says.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how about you overcome coaching?
Speaker 3: Oh oh my god, listen, let's talk about something. The
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs guys eleven by eleven points. Yes, and
Speaker 3: the Titans lost to the Kansas City Chiefs also by
Speaker 3: eleven points.
Speaker 2: So it's your fault.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I guess so, it's everybody's fault. It's a
Speaker 3: team sport, a lot of individuals on this bus. Bruce,
Speaker 3: who do you think would have won in a Super
Speaker 3: Bowl between the Titans and the forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: I think we would have won.
Speaker 3: Okay, we we elaborate, elaborate. You guys have a good
Speaker 3: run game, can we do too? Heys of a good defense?
Speaker 3: Can we do too?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, see our run game though, we're I think
Speaker 2: we led what We're second in the NFL behind only
Speaker 2: the Ravens because Lamar can run for two game, right,
Speaker 2: he's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Beat them?
Speaker 2: You guys? Did we lost to them?
Speaker 3: That was?
Speaker 2: That was a fun game to watch.
Speaker 3: That was That was a cool game to be a
Speaker 3: part of.
Speaker 2: Wait, which game did you like better? Beating New England
Speaker 2: or beating Baltimore. Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 3: I think probably beating Baltimore because I've been to the
Speaker 3: divisional round before and go to the a C Championship.
Speaker 3: It's like, holy shit, you're one game away from the show,
Speaker 3: like you're you're so close. I think I think if
Speaker 3: Rabel is here, he'd probably say the Patriots. The Patriots,
Speaker 3: that's what your best team of By the way, Yeah,
Speaker 3: now he was unbelieved. He did a great job on that.
Speaker 3: He loves. He loves busting with the boys. He wants
Speaker 3: to come back on he does. I actually said something
Speaker 3: about a player's toe, and he texted me and he's like,
Speaker 3: we'll make sure to bring this up during OT because
Speaker 3: we're not supposed to talk about other guy's injuries. So
Speaker 3: I texted the guy and I said, I apologize to him,
Speaker 3: apologized to Rabel, but I'm definitely gonna get it when
Speaker 3: O TA started.
Speaker 1: And then Brabile texts me, He's like, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to let you know what I said to your boy.
Speaker 1: He text me the same thing.
Speaker 3: Hey, Rabel's a boy now he does. He loves busting
Speaker 3: with the boys. John not so much.
Speaker 1: But you talk about saying out of the media. Ray
Speaker 1: was just heavy in the media on facetiming with Brady.
Speaker 3: So he was facetiming Brady.
Speaker 1: At the Yeah, Edelman and Brady's next to him and
Speaker 1: they're they're all facetimon So they're like Brady to the Titans. Confirmed.
Speaker 1: But yeah, everybody's arguing on social media right now. Was
Speaker 1: that posted on parcel But Rabel. It's everywhere, but Rabel's
Speaker 1: face is on the FaceTime, so you could you know
Speaker 1: his face?
Speaker 2: What a great shop are the guys sitting behind?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's no one's safe anymore. You can't do anything
Speaker 3: and you get exposed.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no chance.
Speaker 3: That's tough stuff, man. I mean back in nineteen eighteen
Speaker 3: seventy seven or whenever your old man played like he told.
Speaker 2: Me that he would have been in jail had there
Speaker 2: been canting.
Speaker 3: Oh no question, yeah, no question. Bruce has got that.
Speaker 3: You got that salty, old old guy vibe. Which that's
Speaker 3: a compliment. Okay, please don't take that. I'm about to
Speaker 3: get my assakay?
Speaker 2: Oh do they have it?
Speaker 3: Does that count as tampering? But it shouldn't really count
Speaker 3: as tampering.
Speaker 2: Because they're boys, they know each other.
Speaker 3: It's like if you became a coach and we were
Speaker 3: boys and you FaceTime me, would that be a problem?
Speaker 3: Not for me, But does the NFL get mad at that?
Speaker 3: It's if somebody wanted to get the dude, the boys,
Speaker 3: the boys rocking back there? So what brought you guys
Speaker 3: in Nashville? How do you guys have here?
Speaker 2: That's root of you, that's a good game. The play
Speaker 2: is a nice PI call. But what did you say?
Speaker 3: Sorry? What brought you guys in Nashville? You guys live
Speaker 3: in Nasville?
Speaker 2: Now? I bought a house in April, really April. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're at like a block away from Lipscomb to high school.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, very cool?
Speaker 3: You work got down there?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I do my training there. He's the line
Speaker 2: coach there.
Speaker 3: With Hey with whole holt Yeah, holds of stud man
Speaker 3: lipscumb's got that thing. I'll figure it out. Huh.
Speaker 2: Aren't there redoing a whole weight room and everything just did? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Really yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and our strength coach he's got eighteen years in
Speaker 4: the league. Really yeah, he left the Texans to take
Speaker 4: our job.
Speaker 3: No way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because his kids plays the quarterback and so he
Speaker 4: wanted him to come because he knows dl FL from
Speaker 4: the old.
Speaker 2: Days and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's pretty good. No, they just redid it
Speaker 4: with all this stuff he wanted from whatever he's been doing.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what makes it, but yeah, it's pretty special.
Speaker 3: And you also reside in Nashville. Yeah, so what brought
Speaker 3: you guys from?
Speaker 2: So? I woa to hear Worre at Iowa. I was
Speaker 2: just finished my rookie season. I was going to go
Speaker 2: back live with my parents, and I was sitting in
Speaker 2: his train at the University of Iowa. But like, after
Speaker 2: a week of Oil Doyle rules, I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't have a quarterback, so I can't routes, and
Speaker 2: there's no other wide receivers here. I was literally the
Speaker 2: only offensive skill position there. Everything else was off. It's
Speaker 2: the line or d line. I was like, well I can't.
Speaker 2: I guy, I can lift weights all I want, but
Speaker 2: being a tight end you kind of have to catch
Speaker 2: the ball once in a while.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so my quarterback from I was C. J. Bethard,
Speaker 2: who's our backup quarterback at San Francisco. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: just come to Nashville'll run routes to work out together,
Speaker 2: the whole shebang. And then my wide receiver from San Francisco,
Speaker 2: Trent Taylor, also lives in Nashville, so yeah, you can
Speaker 2: come train with me and did that right after my
Speaker 2: rookie year. Worked that well for me, did it again
Speaker 2: last year and then I just loved it so much
Speaker 2: about a house, no doubt, and Nashville's just sick.
Speaker 3: So National is a sweet place. I gotta tell you.
Speaker 3: The weather though it's depressing.
Speaker 2: It's brutal. Febra and March are not fun, and then
Speaker 2: July is really human but it's fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's it's still Nashville. It's just cloudy and rainy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Live in Iowa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't exactly.
Speaker 3: I grew up in Arizona.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: There's like a week ago it was like ten degrees
Speaker 4: and six ins inches of snow.
Speaker 3: That's wild. So yeah, Will and I were talking about
Speaker 3: that on the film before this podcast, is like, I
Speaker 3: was like, how do you live here? Like in February
Speaker 3: March time? Because it's like if I don't get sun, Like,
Speaker 3: if there's not I almost get depressed. It does actually
Speaker 3: gets down Taylor, he grew up in Arizona. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: just said that.
Speaker 2: Backers Nebraska. Yeah, I was gonna say.
Speaker 4: I thought he just said, I do appreciate that you.
Speaker 1: Hey, but what I say about living in Nashville you
Speaker 1: got to embrace the suck. I think you appreciate the
Speaker 1: seasons more.
Speaker 2: I appreciate Broadway.
Speaker 3: I appreciate Broadway. What's your what's your spot in Nashville?
Speaker 2: Oh wow?
Speaker 3: Going out. You're cut, you're cutting loose for one night.
Speaker 2: Oh. I'm a big fan of Luke Bryan's and f
Speaker 2: GL House.
Speaker 1: Solid places, solid.
Speaker 2: For I like both those places. It's fun.
Speaker 3: When we did the jersey reveal thing for the Titans
Speaker 3: new uniforms, they were all they like that's where the
Speaker 3: after party was. FGL House.
Speaker 2: It's a good, good set up on the stairs is sick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a nice spot. You've been to Losers I
Speaker 3: love that's my dude, that is my number one spot. Yeah, Saturdays,
Speaker 3: catch me in the back, man.
Speaker 2: I'm a Friday guy.
Speaker 3: There are you really? They were just fishing each other.
Speaker 2: We'll flip it.
Speaker 3: We'll flip it. I'll come to you on Saturday, or
Speaker 3: you're coming to me on Saturday. Fridays, I'll go to
Speaker 3: FGL House.
Speaker 2: There's a couple of batter parties the weekend of the
Speaker 2: March fourteenth. If you're interested, I'll be in Cabo. The
Speaker 2: boys will be in cop I just got back from Cabo.
Speaker 2: How was Cabo the best? D is I want to
Speaker 2: own a place there? Oh yeah, one hundred percent. What's
Speaker 2: great is I fly down from San Francisco and it's
Speaker 2: like a two hour flight, and it's that's awesome. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's super easy for me. Yeah, going through customs
Speaker 2: is super easy there too, just in and out and
Speaker 2: all of sudden you're on the beach for five days,
Speaker 2: seven days.
Speaker 3: I want to know where Ezekiel Elliott's training down there.
Speaker 2: Holdouts someone told me. I do not remember though, but
Speaker 2: it was like right on a really really nice like
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods golf course.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure is it like is it a nice
Speaker 3: setup there?
Speaker 2: Sick?
Speaker 3: That's one thing Nashville needs to get is like, like
Speaker 3: you would you train for the combine Exos?
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: So I'm a big Exos guy. I love what they do.
Speaker 3: I really do. I'm a big exercise no fore shouts,
Speaker 3: but that was free. That was free. Well, we'll blip
Speaker 3: them out.
Speaker 1: It's part of the it's part of the deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's part of it's part of the gig. Here.
Speaker 3: I'm bustling with the boys. I'm a big fan. I
Speaker 3: think like Nashville needs like a good solid, like an
Speaker 3: Exos type place because now everybody has access to the lips.
Speaker 3: I'm like, y'all do very true, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Or yeah, Vandy solid too. That's where that's where we
Speaker 3: worked out in the summertime and all that.
Speaker 2: So you go to the Super Bowl, Yeah, back on tracks.
Speaker 3: Yeah see yeah, well all the place. Tell us what
Speaker 3: that week's like, going through the whole thing, like the
Speaker 3: whole uh media, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: The media is wild experience just because you do it,
Speaker 2: you have, like it what it's like two hours on
Speaker 2: Monday night and then you have an hour of the
Speaker 2: next day, and then an hour the next day, and
Speaker 2: then an hour of the next day, and by the
Speaker 2: third and fourth days you either have the exact same
Speaker 2: questions or you have a bunch of people will run
Speaker 2: around trying to do get you to do really stupid stuff.
Speaker 2: I had a dude from a German Germany use like
Speaker 2: podcasts or something like that. He tried to get me
Speaker 2: to swear in German on like national television multiple times,
Speaker 2: like all four days. He tried to get me to
Speaker 2: say swear words.
Speaker 3: Did you do it? No? Why not?
Speaker 2: My PR guys would have you know, they would have
Speaker 2: not been happy with Yeah.
Speaker 3: PR guys aren't usually happy with me. O the Titans.
Speaker 2: See, I try. I try to be nice. You know,
Speaker 2: that's good.
Speaker 3: You you're you're you know what, You're coachable, You're a
Speaker 3: people person, coachable.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: You're describing me because I'm white.
Speaker 3: I'm first and first. Yeah, lunch, pale guy, limited athletically ceiling,
Speaker 3: got a ceiling for sure, there's no floor, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the media week, that stuff is wild. Practice
Speaker 2: was different. I mean we were at the University of Miami,
Speaker 2: which is pretty cool, like being in one of their
Speaker 2: locker rooms and seeing their facilities, which is sick, I mean,
Speaker 2: but it was. They did a really good job of
Speaker 2: making it as normal of a game week as you
Speaker 2: possibly could. But yeah, mean, yeah, it was pretty normal.
Speaker 2: It's pretty easy. The media stuff gets pretty old pretty quick.
Speaker 2: But other than that, you just go play football.
Speaker 3: Do you like do you have like a routine during
Speaker 3: the week obviously that you like massages? Do you do
Speaker 3: ivs and stuff like that? So how did you were
Speaker 3: able to do that when you're done in Miami?
Speaker 2: Well, our team was a great job. Like three days,
Speaker 2: two days a week. They bring in this is in California.
Speaker 2: They bring in a massage like a team of ten
Speaker 2: to twelve people, massage therapists, chiropractors, acupuncturists, like the whole
Speaker 2: shebang twice really to us too, and so then they
Speaker 2: brought all those people to Miami with us no way, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's awesome.
Speaker 3: That's all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so sick. So I got to I mean like
Speaker 2: that stuff was easy for me, Like I didn't have
Speaker 2: to adjust anything.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 2: The only thing that like, what sucks about doing stuff
Speaker 2: on the road, in my opinion, is all this time
Speaker 2: you spoun on a bus going to and front places. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because instead of I live five minutes from my facilities
Speaker 2: in San Francisco, and so as soon as stuff gets done,
Speaker 2: like I'll get it's a five minute drive home for me,
Speaker 2: then I have the rest of my day. Yeah, Like
Speaker 2: there was I was a thirty minute bus ride and
Speaker 2: they had to wait for everyone, and it's another thirty
Speaker 2: minute bus ride. Then you have to go to media
Speaker 2: for an hour and a half and so like I
Speaker 2: wasted basically two and a half hours before I could
Speaker 2: do So that part sucked, but it was whatever after that.
Speaker 1: What's it like planning?
Speaker 2: Coach Andahan awesome. Kyle's just I mean, he's the man.
Speaker 2: I love playing for him. I think one of my
Speaker 2: favorite things about him is like, first thing, I think
Speaker 2: he just loves football so much. And like when you
Speaker 2: have a guy that loves football and you're's like not
Speaker 2: work for him, it makes it pretty easy to play
Speaker 2: for the guy, Like he doesn't have to give us
Speaker 2: a pump up speech R like that, you can just
Speaker 2: tell much it means to him. But I also like
Speaker 2: he's just straight up with everybody. He doesn't lie, like
Speaker 2: he's in front of like even when like we were
Speaker 2: what four and twelve last year, and he still got
Speaker 2: up in front of the team, didn't bullshit us right
Speaker 2: like that, He's like, this is why we're not good.
Speaker 2: This is the way it to do. Be better, Like
Speaker 2: we just got to work hard and practice better. So
Speaker 2: he's always straight up with us, and that's what I
Speaker 2: love about him. And he's a great you know, he's
Speaker 2: all about the players. He just wants to make sure
Speaker 2: everyone's you know, bodies are healthy ready to roll into
Speaker 2: each game.
Speaker 3: Being four and twelve, do you think that the biggest
Speaker 3: change is obviously been having Jimmy g healthy.
Speaker 2: Then, Like I mean we grew up honestly, Like my
Speaker 2: rookie year, I think it was like we had twenty
Speaker 2: rookies on the active roster fifteen something like that, and
Speaker 2: then the next year was all for rookies and then
Speaker 2: second year guys, like everybody was like, we didn't have
Speaker 2: any vets, like Joe Staley was our vet and other
Speaker 2: than that, we really didn't.
Speaker 3: All that to have.
Speaker 2: He's amazing that guys all time. Dude, super pump that
Speaker 2: he's going back. If I hope he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is he a free agent or is this like
Speaker 3: a possible retirement.
Speaker 2: Possible retirement. I don't think so, Dude, I heard.
Speaker 3: And I don't know. So if he hears this, I'm
Speaker 3: speaking out of.
Speaker 2: Rumors, he's talking shit.
Speaker 3: I'm talking shit, Joe. I heard that.
Speaker 2: I heard that.
Speaker 3: Like before Shanahan got there, he was like kind of
Speaker 3: ready to hang it up. And then when Shanahan got there,
Speaker 3: he enjoyed the offense so much. He's like, I'll keep
Speaker 3: doing this. I like this. Hey, the Titans Titans in
Speaker 3: fortnit As, we run similar offense.
Speaker 2: We know, yeah, but I don't know. I do know
Speaker 2: that he has definitely enjoyed playing this offense so like
Speaker 2: it it's run game friendly. Like the amount of work
Speaker 2: that we had to do together to just makes our
Speaker 2: lives a lot easier. Yeah, it's a fun offense.
Speaker 3: No, I love watching us. But how many runs do
Speaker 3: you guys usually keep going into games?
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 3: You guys are pretty run heavy, Like.
Speaker 2: Our run portfolio, our run install I'd say it's between
Speaker 2: like first and second down out of twenty one like everything,
Speaker 2: but eleven personnel is thirty five pages. Really yeah, and
Speaker 2: then one plays kill it plays with like our cans
Speaker 2: and all that stuff on them, and then we'll have
Speaker 2: between ten and fifteen eleven personnel runs and then we
Speaker 2: add in the short yards and the goal line stuff later.
Speaker 2: So you guys hear shit, little runs fifty to sixty
Speaker 2: every week?
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that ever becomes a problem for
Speaker 3: like younger guys being able to remember, because like you
Speaker 3: can have three plays and they're all exact same but
Speaker 3: outside zone, but like it's a little different for the
Speaker 3: tight end on this plate. It's a little diferent for
Speaker 3: the z on this play.
Speaker 2: I mean, like I struggled my rookie year with it.
Speaker 2: It was it was super hard because like we have
Speaker 2: a play called Zelda and we have a play called Zoro,
Speaker 2: which are the exact same basically for everybody except for
Speaker 2: the Titan the fullback and but they sound the same.
Speaker 2: They're kind of similar, and yeh.
Speaker 3: Swisch responsibilities on this place essentially.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's just like, oh geez, but I've
Speaker 2: gotten used to it and they've they've gotten a lot
Speaker 2: better of installing it too, so it's broken down a
Speaker 2: lot easier so younger guys can figure it out. But
Speaker 2: we also don't really have that many young guys on
Speaker 2: our line. Like mcglinch's the youngest guy, and other than that,
Speaker 2: I think everyone's five years or lake and I think, yeah, yeah, So,
Speaker 2: I mean we have an older offs THEVE line now,
Speaker 2: which is nice, but there are some there are some
Speaker 2: confused and stuff, but we work.
Speaker 3: It out, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Shannan's the studs man. When when I was on the
Speaker 1: Scams my rookie year, it was Shanahan, Lafleur, and Sean
Speaker 1: McVay all in the same staff squad, and yeah, and
Speaker 1: those dudes were like up every night all night, just
Speaker 1: scheming all the time because coach Mike Shanahan was the
Speaker 1: head coach at that point. Yeah, they were studs man,
Speaker 1: and they were fun to be around because they're like
Speaker 1: younger and everything and they're just they were just always
Speaker 1: you know, busting their ass about everything. They're just everything,
Speaker 1: always schematics, arguing, just everything. And now they're all, you know,
Speaker 1: head coaches just killing it.
Speaker 3: Lafleur was the same way at the Titans, like he'd
Speaker 3: be there till midnight everything. I don't know how those
Speaker 3: guys get sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like they don't give a ship. I've never just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're trying to this whole thing.
Speaker 2: We got Shanahan, who's like the OC head coach, and
Speaker 2: then we have U Mike Lafleur, so Lafleur's brother, and
Speaker 2: there's our passing corner, and then Mike McDaniel's our run
Speaker 2: game coordinator. And I don't think I've ever seen any
Speaker 2: of those three guys leave or get to work. Really,
Speaker 2: they're always just there when I get there.
Speaker 3: Or that's wild, dude. I that's how our O line
Speaker 3: coaches are. The Titans a little bit, he's he's always
Speaker 3: grinding it out. I mean when we finished the AFC,
Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game and we were doing exit interviews,
Speaker 3: he was like, all right, we'll see you later, as
Speaker 3: opposed to like the year before we did make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: We had like twenty minutes all of us sitting down talking.
Speaker 3: He's like, all right, well you guys, we'll see you.
Speaker 3: OTA's good job. We'll doeple ge him next time, kind
Speaker 3: of saying they were ready. They were ready to get out. Man,
Speaker 3: they were ready to take a little bit of a break.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be tough, though. Do you would you rather
Speaker 3: not make the playoffs or go to the super Bowl
Speaker 3: and lose.
Speaker 2: We're just having this conversation like were you really Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, because I mean, like going to
Speaker 2: super Bowl. It's the super Bowl, so like that in
Speaker 2: itself is awesome, But like if I got to the
Speaker 2: NFC Championship and loss, I think I would have rather
Speaker 2: almost not made the playoffs. Right, just two months extra
Speaker 2: on your body, a month and a half. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: brutal getting done knowing that, Yeah, getting done in December,
Speaker 2: getting done to December thirty first, as compared to January twentieth,
Speaker 2: like those many days of like those twenty days you
Speaker 2: lost in your off season already. I know. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: I've had I've had a hard time, like like with
Speaker 3: my times just because I did the AFC championship and
Speaker 3: now like usually I take like January off and then
Speaker 3: I go work out and so like I was in
Speaker 3: what two days after Yeah, the a sh sh I
Speaker 3: was like, I gotta I gotta work out like this
Speaker 3: is I guess that's my vacation. Also though, based on
Speaker 3: how you were feeling, because yeah, I've never felt something.
Speaker 3: I've never felt so good. I don't think since high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt a lot better, dud.
Speaker 3: It makes you like when you don't make the playoffs,
Speaker 3: Like my first two years, we were two and fourteen
Speaker 3: and then three and thirteen, and I was like, how
Speaker 3: the how did fucking guys do this? This is awful?
Speaker 3: Like and every week lose every single week, Like you're
Speaker 3: in November and the vets are making their plans for vacation,
Speaker 3: like what are you guys going to do? It's like
Speaker 3: middle of November because you know you're not making the playoffs,
Speaker 3: and it's like.
Speaker 1: And coaches are so like, hey, if this team loses
Speaker 1: and we win and you end up getting in.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, there's all these mathematics and you can get
Speaker 3: in like six and ten.
Speaker 1: And you're like, man, I just hope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just kidd.
Speaker 3: It's like well, yeah, if you're like one of those
Speaker 3: teams that squea in, sometimes you're like, I mean we
Speaker 3: were one of those teams that squeezed in at the
Speaker 3: end and went on a run. But it's like sometimes
Speaker 3: it's like there's those teams that make the playoffs have
Speaker 3: any business in the playoffs, but they just happened to
Speaker 3: be the sixth seed that got in, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: you guys just wastedification for a week. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: it's not like, uh, I mean, like the pay is
Speaker 3: not the same like that. Some guys checks go dramatically
Speaker 3: down in the playoffs get.
Speaker 2: Like Russell Wilson makes whatever he makes and then the
Speaker 2: playoffs he makes thirty thousand. Yeah, round, that's unbelievable, rageous.
Speaker 1: I think it should be that way. No, remember we
Speaker 1: talked about that. Yeah, but why there's like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you make whatever. You guys make like forty thousand for
Speaker 1: the for whatever game, and.
Speaker 3: It's like twenty nine thousand for the first two games.
Speaker 3: I think the same one. It goes up a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's still a solid, it's still a solid yeah, but
Speaker 1: rejected we're talking, but like first off, but like you're
Speaker 1: for him, Yeah, I know for him, but me, you're
Speaker 1: not on your second deal yet, so you're not you
Speaker 1: haven't even hit your fourth year, so you're still on
Speaker 1: like a.
Speaker 2: Rookie nice bonus.
Speaker 1: So it's a nice bonus for the boys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like what about the fellas?
Speaker 1: But yeah, true, no doubt. But I also SAIDs. But
Speaker 1: I also said somebody who's somebody who's big paid but
Speaker 1: also on the sideline and you're out there grinding and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this dude's making his same game day check.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean like I like I said, I
Speaker 2: like the bonus, Like for I got a rookie tight
Speaker 2: end and then a second year tight end. They were
Speaker 2: both under at free agents. Like for them, Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: It's great for me too. But I'm just saying, like
Speaker 2: Russe Wilson him, like why like why would you go
Speaker 2: out there like thirty thousand dollars like when you're usually
Speaker 2: getting paid I don't know what three thousand, five hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: No, go ahead, what do you get?
Speaker 3: Hey, we can look it up, So just say it.
Speaker 2: No, I don't say it's okay, we'll bleep it out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just bleep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I make a game per week. I make a game,
Speaker 3: I may bleeve the game you gotta you gotta pause
Speaker 3: makes Bruce is here staring me down. I feel uncomfortable
Speaker 3: saying how much I make. You should Okay, that's full,
Speaker 3: you can google it. But I will say, like anybody
Speaker 3: who's listening to, anybody who listens to like obviously, like,
Speaker 3: twenty nine thousand dollars is a lot of money. Twenty
Speaker 3: nine thousand dollars is a lot of money. Like we're
Speaker 3: talking about from a relative standpoint, when you play in
Speaker 3: the NFL, like and you sign a second contract and
Speaker 3: it's a bigger contract, and you sign a second contract,
Speaker 3: like and you play a certain amount of money four games.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, first week.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna wait until this is
Speaker 3: all over. Eighty million people.
Speaker 1: Nineteen was your base salary eleven million this year?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, that was after I got suspended from Good
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: So he's probably, you know, roughly, that's a lot. Don't
Speaker 1: do many eight something a game.
Speaker 3: So but I'm what I'm saying is is that like
Speaker 3: when you go and you're making a certain amount of money,
Speaker 3: Let's say you're making eight hundred thousand dollars a game.
Speaker 3: Let's just say, and you go and you play another game.
Speaker 3: Why when't that in the playoffs you're gonna have there's
Speaker 3: gonna be more ratings, more money coming in for teams.
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you make more money your same check and
Speaker 3: then they got why would everybody make their same check?
Speaker 2: Not a big math guy, but I don't understand, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying that that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 3: I love tequila. You can't beat it, tequila, water, lime juice.
Speaker 2: You're solid like tequila, pineapple juice.
Speaker 3: Really a lot of sugar in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but it's juice. So then I feel healthy.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 3: I love that squeezed so that I feel healthy.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to uh, George A little bit or
Speaker 1: a lot of bit?
Speaker 3: George?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg, George? Either one, all right? Whatever? Whatever you
Speaker 2: know ruffles or feathers, isn't it George? It is GEORGI yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: who said Greg? I don't know who said Greg? You
Speaker 2: said Greg? I don't say Greg.
Speaker 3: I get those are two total different names.
Speaker 2: Well, I get, I get, well, esp I sat.
Speaker 1: Here like, holy shit, I thought it was George.
Speaker 3: Remember this and anything in the head, anything in the
Speaker 3: head things and this ship. Yeah, hospital like.
Speaker 2: Three times last year. I think it was after season.
Speaker 2: I think it was ESPN. I think like put up
Speaker 2: all these like like what tight end would you want
Speaker 2: on your team? And it was Kelsey, Kyle Rudolph, Greg Kittle,
Speaker 2: question Mark like three different times, who would you say
Speaker 2: at the top five tight ends in the league right now,
Speaker 2: no particular order. I love. I mean, Kelsey's amazing, Zach
Speaker 2: Artz is incredible. I think you have two fantastic tight
Speaker 2: ends and Walker and Smith and they're both unreal.
Speaker 3: Oh first, there's a stunt any smart too, Let's see.
Speaker 2: I like Will Disley and Seattle. I just he is
Speaker 2: a play a full season healthy, which he will like
Speaker 2: you've just been hurt. I mean, like what I love
Speaker 2: about that, there's so many great tight ends in the NFL,
Speaker 2: Like they're everywhere, and you know, not all of them
Speaker 2: get you know, the spotlight anything like that, but I
Speaker 2: think there's a bunch of really good ones out there
Speaker 2: and finally starting get a little recognitions.
Speaker 3: I like that tight end positions definitely developing into something.
Speaker 3: It was kind of like fading for a little bit,
Speaker 3: and it's coming back full force. It is definitely your
Speaker 3: guys catch the ball, you can run.
Speaker 1: We just had Darren Waller come on a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago.
Speaker 2: Oh really, he's a monster. Yeah, he's a stuch I did.
Speaker 2: I always forget how he's what six to seven? He's
Speaker 2: telling him.
Speaker 1: Uh, He's like, no, I don't think.
Speaker 2: He's sixty six. Yeah, probably, I've seen him on film.
Speaker 2: It's just he has the longest legs I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: I need like gallops bro Field.
Speaker 1: He has the craziest story. I was telling Taylor about
Speaker 1: it because he wasn't here for that one. But it's
Speaker 1: the most insane story because he's a recovering addict. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was suspended for the entire year I think
Speaker 1: of two thousand and seven twenty seventeen, and basically when
Speaker 1: he drove back to Atlanta, he like odd in his
Speaker 1: car and checked himself into rehab thirty five days, twelve
Speaker 1: sep program, all that stuff, talked about how fire it was,
Speaker 1: and then basically worked at Sprouts for eleven to fifty
Speaker 1: an hour until he got reinstated into the NFL. Bald
Speaker 1: was on the piece where they tried stuffing him on
Speaker 1: the Peace squad. You know how that works for guys
Speaker 1: who are good. And they tried to hide him on
Speaker 1: practice squad Oakland Raiders at the end of the year
Speaker 1: saw him pregame more of up.
Speaker 2: He's like, Yo, who the fuck is this guy?
Speaker 1: And they activated him the next week and that's how
Speaker 1: he started with Oakland in twenty eighteen. Then he had
Speaker 1: his year in twenty nineteen. They re upped him mid
Speaker 1: year I think after London the London game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like four weeks in, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: But dude, the most incredible story. But anyway, shout out
Speaker 1: Darren waller Man, dude playing in Iowa.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was reading up on you earlier and you were
Speaker 1: a big party guy. Oh yeah, yeah, big party guy.
Speaker 1: Read this huge article I think on NFL dot com
Speaker 1: talking about you know, you basically had to check yourself
Speaker 1: going into what maybe senior.
Speaker 2: Year, Recher junior year, Yeah, recherd junior year.
Speaker 1: You just what would you do? You just focused more,
Speaker 1: you were you were having more fun than you were
Speaker 1: focused on ball or what.
Speaker 2: Well, my freshman year because I red shirted, I think
Speaker 2: I went out five nights a week. Sure, really? Oh yeah, right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean you only were I only on to wake
Speaker 2: up like at six am twice a week for lifts.
Speaker 2: Other than that, like we didn't have anything until the afternoon,
Speaker 2: so it was pretty easy. And then when you're nineteen
Speaker 2: years old, you recover pretty fast. Yeah yeah, like you
Speaker 2: could drink a bottle of Captain and then you wake
Speaker 2: up the next day you do a full workout without
Speaker 2: thinking twice about it. But no, I just went from
Speaker 2: I mean I was from Iowa City, so I had
Speaker 2: plenty of friends there then along with the whole college life,
Speaker 2: it was awesome. Yeah, going into my let was that
Speaker 2: red shirt junior year, I really didn't play a lot.
Speaker 2: I was I think I was fourth string on the
Speaker 2: depth chart. I had a young a younger guy below me.
Speaker 2: I had a younger guy that was ahead of me
Speaker 2: on the depth chart, So you know that kind of
Speaker 2: bites at you, no doubt, But yeah, I was like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, I want to play football, my goals to
Speaker 2: make it to the NFL, Like what do I need
Speaker 2: to do to change this? And it was really weird,
Speaker 2: Like the around that exact same time, we had a
Speaker 2: linebacker and who played at Iowa pat anger technician, just
Speaker 2: an absolute savage, and he came and he was doing
Speaker 2: he was like transitioning as well, trying to do something new.
Speaker 2: But he did like a stint with us. He was
Speaker 2: like a just as a straight coach for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Just came in, you'll be a part of the program
Speaker 2: again and uh. He talked to us front of the
Speaker 2: team where Kaeff introduced him as the guy that he
Speaker 2: didn't play it all like his first two years, I
Speaker 2: think two and a half years because he got trouble
Speaker 2: at the time for being drunk downtown, but he liked
Speaker 2: to fight. I'm not a big fighter in downtown when
Speaker 2: I'm drunk.
Speaker 3: Pat, you're a lover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have fun, everybody enjoy everybody.
Speaker 2: Everyone have a good time baby, good vibes only. But
Speaker 2: Pat like we would get in fights and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and so he so, I finally I got approach and
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, Pat, what'd you change? He goes,
Speaker 2: I just looked myself in the mirror and said, do
Speaker 2: you want to play football or do you want to
Speaker 2: be known as Joe College your entire life? He said,
Speaker 2: That's all I needed. And then after that, I stopped
Speaker 2: going out so much. I stopped drinking so much, and
Speaker 2: I mean really like all it did really take me.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a wake up call. But I mean,
Speaker 2: did I still go out and enjoy myself. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I was just smarter about it, and I just
Speaker 2: did it when it was appropriate as opposed to in
Speaker 2: the middle of the week.
Speaker 1: So that was kind of the moment that we're just
Speaker 1: literally just like, Okay, this guy, I I I soak
Speaker 1: in this advice. I'm more of a sponge to what
Speaker 1: he's saying compared to yeah, what your dad was saying.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think when you read
Speaker 1: something back on some of the stuff, or did you
Speaker 1: know you have to get him to focus? Or what
Speaker 1: was it like, Raisin old George Well, raising his college years,
Speaker 1: let's say college years.
Speaker 4: Well, he loved because I mean I coached him all
Speaker 4: the way up until high school, you know what I'm
Speaker 4: and so every little and then I was a coach,
Speaker 4: So we had preached all that. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 4: glad that Pat came along, but it's nothing that we
Speaker 4: had told him. You know, I told him watch film
Speaker 4: with your que you know, go in there and learn
Speaker 4: the offense, be a student of the game, make sure
Speaker 4: you put your time in because he came out of
Speaker 4: high school at you know, six three ish and one
Speaker 4: ninety five and eighty five or whatever, and then we're gonna.
Speaker 2: He wasn't excited.
Speaker 4: Look, you got three years, got to live in the
Speaker 4: weight room, be a big, thick and strong, learn the game,
Speaker 4: be a great technician, and fight you're wear into the field.
Speaker 2: My biggest trouble like the transition. Like I know, I
Speaker 2: lived in the weight room, I did all that, I
Speaker 2: got size, the uh like the scheme, I just it
Speaker 2: was like I just didn't really I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 2: think studying was a big thing in football. That used
Speaker 2: to show up.
Speaker 3: And play in high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never watched it. It took like two and
Speaker 2: a half years to understand that I don't know anything.
Speaker 2: And I got to figure that out, right, So and
Speaker 2: then I mean, once I figured it out, then you
Speaker 2: get a little bit of confidence. I mean, and for me,
Speaker 2: football is all about confidence. If you're confident your ability,
Speaker 2: you're gonna play well. And so yeah, and then I
Speaker 2: finally got to play a little bit and two good
Speaker 2: years in a row, finally got an opportunity the NFL.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah, I mean it kind of sounds kind
Speaker 3: of similar for me, honestly, but I didn't figure it out.
Speaker 3: It's like my second year in the NFL. After my
Speaker 3: second year and then I stopped going out so much.
Speaker 3: I gotta probably count one hand how many times I've
Speaker 3: drink in twenty nineteen. Not a big drinker.
Speaker 1: Let's go not a big drinker.
Speaker 2: I would be the Cabo.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Cabo. I mean what I do now is like,
Speaker 3: I don't just go out to go out like I, Oh,
Speaker 3: it's Friday night, Like that's what you do. You go
Speaker 3: out on Friday nights, go on Saturday Night's Like for me,
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, I do a boy's weekend. Every
Speaker 3: Saint Patty's Day. We go to Cabo four or five days.
Speaker 3: I let it loose and Cabo have some fun and
Speaker 3: then get back on track.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it kind of goes like do you drink
Speaker 2: during the season at all?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean the only time I do I do drink
Speaker 3: is if I do, it's gonna be bye week. Like Halloween.
Speaker 3: Halloween is my favorite holiday. I love Spootober.
Speaker 2: Dude, we throw a great Halloween party.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, we need to do a big Halloween party here.
Speaker 3: My wife is she loves throwing parties, and I think
Speaker 3: that's on the that's on the it's gonna maybe FGL
Speaker 3: house this year. We'll find out when your bye week
Speaker 3: is maybe come out.
Speaker 2: He said it was Week four's brutal.
Speaker 3: We've had that before. That's that's tough gig.
Speaker 2: I don't know how Like I want two bye weeks.
Speaker 2: It will never happen. Like I would love two bye weeks,
Speaker 2: but like, how do you give someone a bye week
Speaker 2: week four weeks into the season, So it's it's insane.
Speaker 3: You should start buying until like at least week.
Speaker 2: Seven, Yeah, six to seven, like I can get six
Speaker 2: because like you then need to buy like after camp
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. But week four is tough because
Speaker 2: twelve straight games is a lot.
Speaker 3: That dude, I've had to do that before. That's a
Speaker 3: tough gig. That's a really tough gig. You want two
Speaker 3: buys though.
Speaker 2: I like I don't know, man, Like for me, like
Speaker 2: as long as I'm healthy, like I feel like I
Speaker 2: can play football forever. So like that extra buye is
Speaker 2: incredible because I mean, like for me, the bye week,
Speaker 2: I don't really go anywhere. I stay around and I
Speaker 2: just do rehab and I get my body back health.
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Speaker 3: When you first got in the lead, you just follow
Speaker 3: guys around like Staley.
Speaker 2: The Staley was terrifying my rookie year. Really, I was
Speaker 2: so intimidated by him because he's he was an eleven
Speaker 2: year vet and we were also we weren't. We went
Speaker 2: to nine and so like I think it's a vet
Speaker 2: when you're oh and nine, you don't really enjoy going
Speaker 2: to work that much. And so he was scary sometimes
Speaker 2: definitely scary. But I love Joe.
Speaker 1: Now, shout out Joe Staley.
Speaker 2: That's free. I'll give him a free shout out.
Speaker 1: Boys get free shoutouts.
Speaker 3: I was in Incinitas, California, and Joe's got a place
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And one of biggest regrets, man, he kept wanting to
Speaker 3: get together and I was like, yeah, I'm in, but
Speaker 3: I never I never did. That's tough, I know, so
Speaker 3: I I feel bad.
Speaker 1: What was your what was your learning curve like as
Speaker 1: a rookie transitioning into the league and then go from
Speaker 1: year one to year two and.
Speaker 2: Well it was awesome. So I was there. I was
Speaker 2: They drafted me, went through all the O t as
Speaker 2: Vance McDonald's a tight end. He was ahead of me,
Speaker 2: and I had like three guys ahead of me, but
Speaker 2: they just threw him with the first team reps because
Speaker 2: they were all like they were three big guys and
Speaker 2: I was just a little bit quicker latterly than they were,
Speaker 2: just like they threw them on them pass plays and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I got reps with the ones,
Speaker 2: but not a lot, Like I had no idea what
Speaker 2: to expect. And then I was hurt for most of
Speaker 2: my rookie camp. And then I got back like the
Speaker 2: second or third preseason game, and I had a really
Speaker 2: good game. I had a couple of catches, a nice touchdown,
Speaker 2: ran over somebody, and the next day they trade advanced
Speaker 2: to the Steelers and they're like, hey, you're going to start,
Speaker 2: and I was like sick. And then the next day
Speaker 2: after that I pulled my hamstring again, so they were
Speaker 2: a little stressed. But yeah, but then I got back
Speaker 2: for the regular season. Like my very first play of
Speaker 2: the game, very very first play ever, We're playing the Panthers,
Speaker 2: and that Julius Peppers was still there, and I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: I played with you in Like Man two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: so sick.
Speaker 3: He's a unit dude.
Speaker 2: Oh he's a monster.
Speaker 3: We practice against them, and I remember just looking at him, like.
Speaker 2: I had a block this year, I had two pass pros.
Speaker 2: I was like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 3: We played them and I saw a picture of like
Speaker 3: me blocking him, but I was like, yea, who's the
Speaker 3: tight end walking that giant ass dude. I was like,
Speaker 3: he was engulfing me. He's It was terrifying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my whole rookie year is basically I just got
Speaker 2: thrown into the fire and but it was fun, like
Speaker 2: if you figure it out, I was lucky, Like my
Speaker 2: tight ends. Coach is amazing, John Ember. He's an old
Speaker 2: school guy. He had Tony Gunzalez. He was in Tampa
Speaker 2: for a little bit, but his way, he did a
Speaker 2: great job of it. He took all of like whatever,
Speaker 2: coach and like he has a lot of very confusing
Speaker 2: schemes and a lot of words and all this stuff,
Speaker 2: and MBO would just break it down, like this is
Speaker 2: what you need to know. Just know that you're going
Speaker 2: left and that you're tripling to that guy Sam on
Speaker 2: the ball. You have the Sam Sam off the ball,
Speaker 2: you're trippling. Yeah, Like that was the extent of my
Speaker 2: knowledge and it's grown since theent, but like he broke
Speaker 2: it down for me, so it made it like a
Speaker 2: lot easier for him, but I definitely was. There's a
Speaker 2: lot going on.
Speaker 1: And it's important to have a good position coach because
Speaker 1: if you're like, say you're injured and you what'd you
Speaker 1: say you played Week two.
Speaker 2: Or three or whatever? Yeah, I missed, and then when
Speaker 2: you re.
Speaker 1: Injure yourself, like you know, you see it in all
Speaker 1: the rookies, like when you're young and you just get
Speaker 1: in the NFL, like you're just st because you're like
Speaker 1: you're hurt, and you're like, I know I don't need
Speaker 1: to be hurt, and I know the coaches are stressing
Speaker 1: over me being hurt. So it's like very important to
Speaker 1: have like a good like position coach that gotta be
Speaker 1: there break stuff down for you and then not, you know,
Speaker 1: not stress you out even more because you see you
Speaker 1: see it all the time with like young guys, and
Speaker 1: when I know when I'm saying, I'm just like, hey man,
Speaker 1: you know, don't don't stress as as much as you
Speaker 1: are over this stuff.
Speaker 3: And also learning the playbook. I think simplifying things as
Speaker 3: much as possible is the way it makes you play
Speaker 3: so much faster. I know, like I know the basic
Speaker 3: scheme and they'll be like heye, say there was a
Speaker 3: centator in this plan, like don't play center doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I know where I'm going, and I know where the
Speaker 3: guard's going. I know where the tight end's going. We're solid.
Speaker 3: Take care, take care of your house first. You don't
Speaker 3: need to like I don't need to know what what
Speaker 3: routes are going on. I see to look, but hey,
Speaker 3: Tannehills is a long pass, all right, I better buckle up. Then,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, those types of things, But
Speaker 3: I like that I had, like I've said Russ Gram already,
Speaker 3: but he did the same thing, like he kept thinks
Speaker 3: very simple, don't overthink it. You have this to this
Speaker 3: at the end of the sam or you're er the
Speaker 3: mic or whatever and cut this this, hey cut that
Speaker 3: guy off?
Speaker 2: Yeah, easy, okay, I can I can do that.
Speaker 4: Should look but arter okay? Is he more of a
Speaker 4: like left foot, right foot hand placement all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very detailed, like he's I think every stage
Speaker 3: in the game that you're at a coach is good.
Speaker 3: Like if you have a coach at super vague when
Speaker 3: you're first getting in the league, it's probably gonna be
Speaker 3: a little tougher for you to develop a technique wise,
Speaker 3: especially at the speed of the game. I think Keith
Speaker 3: does a really good job of I mean, I if
Speaker 3: he hears it's fine, being very over anal about everything,
Speaker 3: like it's if your hat's not here, but you drive
Speaker 3: a guy five yards, like your hat needs to be there,
Speaker 3: and kind of being like it's kind of like a sniper,
Speaker 3: a'm small, miss small his tactics, so like even if
Speaker 3: you if you miss, you're still on the right track
Speaker 3: or anything. So I think he does a really good job.
Speaker 3: Like I still need to work with technique every single day,
Speaker 3: but especially with young guys like yeah, Nate Davis came
Speaker 3: in and being so detailed about those things he got
Speaker 3: thrown in at right guard, and towards the end of
Speaker 3: the year, you really saw him coming along with this
Speaker 3: technique with this one block and you really start to
Speaker 3: figure it out. And so I had a Bob Bostad
Speaker 3: was my first O line coach with Ken Wizon Hunt,
Speaker 3: and he did he was very much like that. But
Speaker 3: it makes you really focus on those things, and then
Speaker 3: then you got to take a second to be Okay, Nick,
Speaker 3: I know the techniques like don't focus so much on
Speaker 3: your technique for me, like get to where you know
Speaker 3: you need to be, Like sometimes you set yourself overcome
Speaker 3: some coaching sometimes, which honestly, Rabel says all the time.
Speaker 3: He's like, you guys, gotta overcome us because we're gonna
Speaker 3: we're gonna tell you to do a thousand things like
Speaker 3: simplifier for yourself. I think Rabel does a good job
Speaker 3: of standing in front of the room and he says
Speaker 3: player like, players make the players make the place. He
Speaker 3: says coaches don't do shit, which I'd give them more
Speaker 3: credit than that. But Rabel's very player forward. So I
Speaker 3: think it all depends is where you're at, where you're
Speaker 3: at in your game, based on what you need, like
Speaker 3: when when when Russ came in. I needed that guy
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, like, you don't need to know everything,
Speaker 3: simplify in your head. And once I simplified it, things
Speaker 3: got a lot faster. Things got a lot easier for
Speaker 3: me in the game. So when I go for for
Speaker 3: pass pro, you know it's third down, they're slide and right,
Speaker 3: I think myself like, okay, feet, hands, don't lean. That's
Speaker 3: all I think to myself. Make sure your feet are good,
Speaker 3: punch before you think you're supposed to punch, and don't lean.
Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing. And then every play I have
Speaker 3: like little cues to myself now for this, not just thinking, Okay,
Speaker 3: your left step, right step, you get shoppy and robotic plusure.
Speaker 4: Don't you do enough of that in practice that the
Speaker 4: muscle memory stuff. It kind of like you know, if
Speaker 4: you like you talked about track schemes, right, so if
Speaker 4: you're going down to the A or B, get whatever,
Speaker 4: you know through whatever. If it's a deuce, you know
Speaker 4: you're inside what's going on your second steps doing this
Speaker 4: based on his alignment all that, Right.
Speaker 3: Take that time in the practice to like, if I'm
Speaker 3: trying to cut off, like I have a really bad
Speaker 3: habit of stepping under myself when I go to cut
Speaker 3: off in the beg gap. Okay, so I'll stand in
Speaker 3: practice with Solly, who's our assistant online coach, and just
Speaker 3: step over a yard line over and over step over
Speaker 3: so I don't step under myself, and I still step
Speaker 3: out under myself. But it's that it's that muscle memory
Speaker 3: of trying to figure out that angler are supposed to
Speaker 3: be up.
Speaker 4: So you do it enough so you can go fast
Speaker 4: and still maintain at least enough to get the jobs absolutely.
Speaker 3: And my thing, like, I'm what you call a linear tackle,
Speaker 3: so I'm not like, I'm not a three hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty three hundred and forty pound guy, Like I'm playing
Speaker 3: ball at three oh eight between three o eight through twelve
Speaker 3: during the season, and so I have to I technique
Speaker 3: has to help me a lot, especially against bigger dude
Speaker 3: like Julius Pepper coming down the pipe. You sit your
Speaker 3: ass down, you know, so like, yeah, yeah, you got
Speaker 3: to hit down.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
Speaker 4: Well, working with him because he's yeah.
Speaker 3: Which is which is a good sized tight end. I mean,
Speaker 3: you're not like two seventy five ye, but bruiser.
Speaker 2: Having a sift block where trell Sugs runs through your
Speaker 2: face at full speed. Yeah, is tough.
Speaker 3: Sugs tough if you play a really athletic guy but
Speaker 3: plays like football the way football supposed to be played.
Speaker 3: Like they have the sea gaps, so they're going to
Speaker 3: stay in the sea gap. And then you got guys
Speaker 3: like Sugs, like Clowney JJ Watty, they'll do what they
Speaker 3: want to because they're athletic, have to make got they
Speaker 3: can hit that B gap and come back out and
Speaker 3: still protect that sea gap. Those are the hardest guys
Speaker 3: to play against. Suggs is definitely one of those dudes.
Speaker 3: I had like a two three two year span or like,
Speaker 3: we played the Ravens two years in a row, and
Speaker 3: I give up a sack both games, and I'm like
Speaker 3: this and he's like kind of coming off slow and
Speaker 3: he lawsy asleep and then all of a sudden, jet
Speaker 3: that B gap like and you're looking like no one
Speaker 3: blitzed on that play, like no one was covering him up.
Speaker 1: What the hell?
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, You're kind of looking around like that. That
Speaker 3: was definitely me. So that's I think that's the hardest
Speaker 3: part of the NFL is when those guys start to
Speaker 3: figure out, like you know, overcome coaching, make a play.
Speaker 3: Those are the hardest guys to block for sure.
Speaker 4: Well, we're doing with some of the NFL guys. We'll
Speaker 4: be doing some online stuff next week. So if you
Speaker 4: want to shoot by Lipscomb Academy.
Speaker 3: I would love to, except for I'll be in California
Speaker 3: next week. But what are you guys doing in like
Speaker 3: April during OT I'll come by.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be as so long as the NFL. Well,
Speaker 4: all they leave, so they'll be gone around the fifteenth April,
Speaker 4: and then they come back. So we'll have a pretty
Speaker 4: good group of guys tight ends and some line guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll be around.
Speaker 1: Uh and then the summer.
Speaker 3: I think we all all summer and watched.
Speaker 1: The practice last year, remember when we went and trained it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they they were doing their you know, I think
Speaker 1: they had, like you guys had a whole thing going on.
Speaker 3: I get dms from like high school kids all the time,
Speaker 3: and one of the coolest things, like high school football
Speaker 3: is the best football, Like it's the It's the most
Speaker 3: fun you'll ever have in your entire life. So definitely
Speaker 3: take take the most of it because I think Like
Speaker 3: my senior year of high school, I was like, don't drink,
Speaker 3: don't do nothing, don't you know, focus on football. And
Speaker 3: got to college and it went totally backwards, totally totally flipped.
Speaker 3: But like high school is like you're with the boys,
Speaker 3: like you grew up with the boys. Like every week
Speaker 3: you're just trying to win the game. You know, it's
Speaker 3: it's all that matters.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Even if the teams like way better than you, like,
Speaker 1: there's still sound like in your mind you're like, I
Speaker 1: think we want this game bad enough, it'll be get
Speaker 1: dice in there.
Speaker 3: And it's high school ball, not everyone's always got got there.
Speaker 3: High school is the most fun you'll ever have playing
Speaker 3: football the last. I mean, NFL is awesome. College is awesome,
Speaker 3: but like nothing like with the boys you grew up
Speaker 3: with playing ball.
Speaker 2: Out to three high schools in one year. So I
Speaker 2: didn't grow up with the boys. I played with Jesus
Speaker 2: high school year, three high schools, my sophomo year high
Speaker 2: school to three high schools. You get kicked out?
Speaker 1: Would you do around?
Speaker 2: Kicked? I was that one. My dad transferred me to
Speaker 2: his alma mater high school because him and the head
Speaker 2: coach didn't agree on very much. Sure, so I went there,
Speaker 2: which is where you and I is that college Cedar
Speaker 2: Falls iol So was there, and then like five months
Speaker 2: later he had a job at Oklahoma, and so I
Speaker 2: was in Norman, Oklahoma. Really, I got there just in
Speaker 2: time for spring football. That was a new thing to me.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't do spring football in the Midwest. Yeah,
Speaker 3: d we did. We did spring football.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at that. That's one seventy five right there, baby, speed.
Speaker 3: That's not a chance that you just get that.
Speaker 1: You just get the local schools together and play seven
Speaker 1: on seven essentially.
Speaker 2: But it was basically we got stance.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, isn't amazing when you look back at
Speaker 3: your high school film and you're like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: was this guy doing? What is your techniques? Terrible? And
Speaker 3: you thought, You're like, I got a lock down, man, dude.
Speaker 3: My first three years of high school I played nose tackle.
Speaker 3: I was terrible. I was I was absolutely off zero offers.
Speaker 3: I was like I was like six seven early. I
Speaker 3: was my height I am now early, but I was
Speaker 3: shaped like I was skinnys Yeah, dude. And then my
Speaker 3: dad wanted me to play old line and the head
Speaker 3: shop Dad, yeah, things appreciate you. And uh, the head
Speaker 3: coach at the school, I was at catch of shadows.
Speaker 3: He's like, it's not my job to get kids to college.
Speaker 3: My job was to win footballame as a high school coach.
Speaker 3: My dad walked out of that meeting and was like,
Speaker 3: you're you're leaving the school basically. So I ended up
Speaker 3: going down to Scottsdale and went to a school called Chaperel.
Speaker 3: There's this kid named Craig Row who was like the
Speaker 3: number sixty end of the league. He had twenty offers
Speaker 3: going into a senior year and I'm going into my
Speaker 3: senior year was zero offers. And I literally transferred there
Speaker 3: and within two months I had a couple offers. Then
Speaker 3: I put my two for two game films out there
Speaker 3: and ended up getting offers over that. But I had
Speaker 3: had a transfer schools too. It was it was brutal.
Speaker 3: I peaked in high school, that's yeah, for sure, Yeah,
Speaker 3: no doubt for sure.
Speaker 1: Nebraska didn't now like you just feel so dominant in
Speaker 1: high school, dude, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Everybody peaked in high school.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like that. Well, I would say if
Speaker 1: you're Reggie Bush. Might they say, like, hey, I peaked
Speaker 1: in college because he just toyed with everybody in college.
Speaker 3: He is the best college you Like, I didn't feel
Speaker 3: like I just dominated college.
Speaker 2: We give him back his Heisman Trophy yet, I know, right,
Speaker 2: Like we give.
Speaker 3: It back to him if you if you win the
Speaker 3: Heisman Trophy and your mom got a house out of it,
Speaker 3: the house didn't win you the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I understand.
Speaker 3: And like USC doesn't even take him in. They're not.
Speaker 3: They don't even like acknowledge that he was ever.
Speaker 1: There, right, they don't talk to him nothing.
Speaker 2: The best college footble player they ever touched the field?
Speaker 1: Dude, you I would sit in middle school, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: did you sit in I would sit in middle school
Speaker 1: and just watch this dude's highlight tape. He was the
Speaker 1: sickest college player.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: He was unreal. He really was. I had a weird
Speaker 3: obsession with Tebow my like, senior year.
Speaker 1: Did you need it a lot?
Speaker 3: No? No? Like that? What's that? No? I didn't, I've
Speaker 3: I'm I've been to church since I was like eight,
Speaker 3: But I like, I was a huge Tebo fan. Me
Speaker 3: my boys were all about Tea And I met Tebow
Speaker 3: coming out.
Speaker 2: That's cool, humble brag.
Speaker 3: Met the guy coming out for the draft. I was
Speaker 3: like in between the transition after the combine, kind of waiting,
Speaker 3: and he was at my high school throwing routes with
Speaker 3: Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 2: He's cool too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a stud. So it was a weird combination.
Speaker 3: I was like working out and then I got to
Speaker 3: meet him and I said a couple off in things
Speaker 3: about Urban Meyer and so it was a bad first impression.
Speaker 1: So why.
Speaker 2: Why'd you love Tim Tebow so much?
Speaker 3: Just like dudes with solid work ethic I'm drawn to. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: not necessarily the man I can't get a break with.
Speaker 1: The kid had a bad person pressures, so he's got
Speaker 1: to get it back side of you.
Speaker 3: No, no, I gotta get I'm not on the Tim Tebow
Speaker 3: train anymore. But I do like I'm always drawn to
Speaker 3: people with like really good work. I think that don't
Speaker 3: think they just belong to be there, like he He
Speaker 3: had that, and that was like, that was super cool
Speaker 3: to me. That post game speech too, yeah, after the
Speaker 3: lost that was ole miss. Yeah. Oh yeah, he says
Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff. God bless and walks off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was pretty solid.
Speaker 2: I just always like, was it the Florida State game
Speaker 2: he was covered in like the blood? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was Badassah.
Speaker 1: He had one of the first like high school documentaries
Speaker 1: that you're like, Yo, this dude isn't six.
Speaker 3: Yes, he loved him, thank you. Okay, so now we're
Speaker 3: back on track. Back on top I was.
Speaker 2: They had one of the most interesting teams of all time.
Speaker 2: The year they want to do the championship and that's
Speaker 2: like who they had on the TV.
Speaker 3: They had Cooper who's like saying the N word, and
Speaker 3: Hernandez he had his deal and by like a man
Speaker 3: of God. The Pouncy Brothers. First off, I love the
Speaker 3: fucking Pouncy Brothers. They are all time. They rolled together.
Speaker 3: They're I was with him in Orlando at the Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl and I was there too, Humble Bread.
Speaker 2: And he was.
Speaker 3: They were awesome.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: I love the Bouncer Brothers.
Speaker 1: I've heard nothing but good things about the Pouncy Brothers.
Speaker 3: They're all time.
Speaker 1: They had they had they had a school wad and
Speaker 1: they had what's funny is they had Jordan.
Speaker 2: Team Lou Murphy. He was on my team Jordan.
Speaker 1: Reid when he's healthy. Yeah, solid route runner.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Shanahan has said that he's definitely one of the best.
Speaker 2: He's he's first or second best rout running tight end.
Speaker 2: He's ever had really other one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had to go.
Speaker 2: I got No, it's not me, he tells me. I'm
Speaker 2: he said, I'm third or fourth? I was like, who
Speaker 2: the second and third guys? Just don't worry about it?
Speaker 3: Who do I watch that?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 1: But he also coached uh sharp Shannon Sharp?
Speaker 2: Right? So say he was part of No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: He hasn't I've been. I haven't gotten too many good
Speaker 2: stories about Shannon shup. I got to get into it. So,
Speaker 2: Mike Shanahan's at our place all the time, like watching
Speaker 2: film and stuff. Do you he's awesome. I'd like to.
Speaker 2: I'd like to sit and ask him some Denver Broncos questions.
Speaker 2: That'd be fun, No question, he's probably got some on Yes,
Speaker 2: for sure, dude.
Speaker 1: Should be some questions before before we go, questions, did
Speaker 1: you have something else?
Speaker 2: No, I'm good, go ahead, Well just and if you
Speaker 2: don't want to do it, it's okay.
Speaker 4: So, like my back studies, kind of the mental side
Speaker 4: of the game, kind of prep, visualization, all that kind
Speaker 4: of stuff. So I'm just wondering about you guys, you know,
Speaker 4: like high school, college and that, what did what did
Speaker 4: you guys do, Like, you know, as far as visualization,
Speaker 4: did you do anything more official than that all that,
Speaker 4: Because I mean George and I have worked through a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of stuff over the years. I mean I
Speaker 4: first got into it Hayden Fry was our coach at
Speaker 4: Iowa and he was a psych major and so he
Speaker 4: had us all visualizing a ton right first thing out
Speaker 4: of the.
Speaker 2: Bat, and we were awful, dude.
Speaker 4: So I'm just I'm just kind of wondering, like how
Speaker 4: important is that kind of what do you do week
Speaker 4: to week? What's a game prep for you? If you
Speaker 4: don't mind just chatting by?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that question. So in college, I playing
Speaker 1: for coach Polini, stressful. I don't know if you ever
Speaker 1: saw coach I don't know if you've ever seen it,
Speaker 1: best coach, best defensive mind. I ever been around Bo Polini,
Speaker 1: shout out Bopolini. But I would be you. You would
Speaker 1: always play. I feel like I was always out there
Speaker 1: when I when I talk about not feeling so dominant
Speaker 1: when I was in college. I feel like when I
Speaker 1: was younger, my first couple of years in college, I
Speaker 1: felt like I was always out there playing to not
Speaker 1: mess up because you wanted to please you know, Coach
Speaker 1: Bo and all the coaches, and they were so hard,
Speaker 1: you know, they coach you so hard. You were just
Speaker 1: out there playing to not mess up. Rex burke Head,
Speaker 1: Shout out Rex Burkehead. He was a phenomenal running back
Speaker 1: for Nebraska, and the way he carried himself. He was
Speaker 1: just always so confident. It every singed like he got
Speaker 1: to down on himself, like when somebody go in on him.
Speaker 1: I remember asking Rex like on the side, like, hey,
Speaker 1: is there anything you do to basically like, you know not,
Speaker 1: you know, not mind fuck yourself to playing the way
Speaker 1: you do. And he gave me a book called Mental
Speaker 1: Edge by Kenneth Baum, and that was the first book
Speaker 1: I kind of read in mental psychology going into my
Speaker 1: senior year where I was kind of like, yo, I'm
Speaker 1: basically doing everything you shouldn't be doing when I'm out
Speaker 1: here playing sport, which is like, you know what you
Speaker 1: think you become right, and so I'm thinking, don't mess up,
Speaker 1: don't missus tackle Okay, mountain space. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: space that I make this tackle and then boom, I
Speaker 1: get diced up. Coach, but you motherfucker just on the sideline,
Speaker 1: You're like, God damn it, I fucking suck and you
Speaker 1: can't shake it off. And going into Pro Day, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I went to come my guy whatever, and then uh,
Speaker 1: I was training for Pro Day and I'm so, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this mental edge stuff that I did
Speaker 1: for my senior year and I'm gonna use it for
Speaker 1: Pro Day training. You know, all that combine training stuff.
Speaker 1: And because I was injured, I had a sports hernia.
Speaker 1: I couldn't I had to get wrapped every day. I
Speaker 1: could only go like fifty percent in speed drills. I
Speaker 1: couldn't squat. And I'm literally like thinking, all I have
Speaker 1: to lean on is what my trainers tell me to
Speaker 1: not do. And this mental training, this mental psychology stuff,
Speaker 1: so I would like I still have notes to this day.
Speaker 1: I was like, down, I'm gonna run a four point
Speaker 1: five to nine forty. I'm gonna do this. I'm doing
Speaker 1: all these mental training. I'm trying to like feel the
Speaker 1: turf under my fingers, all the smells, all the scouts
Speaker 1: around you holding the time watches, trying to get that
Speaker 1: stress in my mind before I go out there and
Speaker 1: run it. And fast forward to pro day. I hit
Speaker 1: all my numbers. I'm a full unbeliever on scouts are
Speaker 1: sitting in front of me showing me that I'm like
Speaker 1: a people think I'm gonna run like a four fucking nine,
Speaker 1: like completely disrespectful white guy, undrafted, all that fun stuff.
Speaker 1: But I'm a full unbeliever in the mental psychology, mental
Speaker 1: lighted stuff. So I go to the NFL, I'm doing
Speaker 1: all the same things. I'm trying to play like highlight
Speaker 1: tapes in my head of my college days. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to understand the playbook. Like for me, I got like
Speaker 1: a couple of reps a day because I was like
Speaker 1: fourth on the depth chart, practice squad guy, all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and so the only reps I got I had to
Speaker 1: be like all my shit. So, you know, playing against
Speaker 1: Shannan's offense, I would be game planning our offense in
Speaker 1: OTA's and training camp because a few players I got,
Speaker 1: I had to show out. I wanted to be loud,
Speaker 1: communicate all that stuff, and before ever practice, I'm like
Speaker 1: doing visualization and but anyway, I am a huge believer
Speaker 1: in all of that shit, big believer in all of it.
Speaker 1: The way you sew, the way you talk to yourself,
Speaker 1: the way you just put on this kind of image
Speaker 1: of confidence, and everything else, especially when you when you
Speaker 1: lay in betternite, the way you self doubt, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm super into it.
Speaker 4: All right, just yes or no? It is fine because
Speaker 4: I know I want to hear from you. But what
Speaker 4: about do you do affirmations which it sounds like you
Speaker 4: kind of toy with them, and then do you mess
Speaker 4: around with alter ego stuff at all?
Speaker 1: Alter ego stuff? Yes, affirmations. Going into Redskins, it was
Speaker 1: I am a linebacker for the Washington Redskins. Okay, I
Speaker 1: wanted to say I'm an NFL linebacker, but my mentor,
Speaker 1: Ben Newman, shout out. Ben Newman would say, you're already
Speaker 1: You're already crutching yourself saying you're gonna if you get cut.
Speaker 1: There's thirty one other teams looking at you. He's like,
Speaker 1: you need it to be. I am a linebacker with
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins. So I would do that. The next
Speaker 1: year would be I am a starter, but alter ego stuff.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess play around with like on you know,
Speaker 1: on game day and things like that. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: guess in my own world, but I don't like refer
Speaker 1: to myself and you're like third person unless I'm just
Speaker 1: being like funny, But you.
Speaker 4: Don't have a developed different identity that you would name
Speaker 4: or anything like that.
Speaker 1: No, that not not that I would name. I guess
Speaker 1: I mean a wolf, but I don't like really play
Speaker 1: into something. But I'm super into all that mental self talk.
Speaker 2: You say, wolf, Yeah, wolf, that's sick.
Speaker 1: Be a fucking wolf.
Speaker 2: I'm here in on that.
Speaker 3: Let's go. I've been up and down. I've been up
Speaker 3: and down the wolf thing. I mean that the way
Speaker 3: the way he put everything. I would say I've started
Speaker 3: to really do, especially the last two years. But I
Speaker 3: think the biggest thing in my game that's lacking right
Speaker 3: now is doing that consistently. So I try in the
Speaker 3: off season, I do a really good job. I read
Speaker 3: a lot, like one of the books I try to
Speaker 3: read every years, the Four Agreements. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you guys have read that book.
Speaker 2: Unbelieve.
Speaker 4: I've done a bunch of prison stuff right because my
Speaker 4: criminal defense that's one of the books i'd take in
Speaker 4: when I do the institution. Yeah, and it's it's just great.
Speaker 3: It's for me. It's always focusing on what you can control.
Speaker 3: Like if I can't control how the game's going to go,
Speaker 3: I can control like what I'm doing. I control how
Speaker 3: i can communicate with the guys. So I'll go and
Speaker 3: tell you know, I'll tell Derek if it's a you know,
Speaker 3: a play action play, like, hey, you have my outside
Speaker 3: on this, I'm gonna help the guard. I need you
Speaker 3: to be there. And so I do. I'm I'm a
Speaker 3: loud person, and so I'm always kind of talking through things.
Speaker 1: But I do.
Speaker 3: I do a lot of things during the week for
Speaker 3: my body physically. But one of those things I do
Speaker 3: is I take EPs and solt baths. Yeah, I do
Speaker 3: it twice a week. But I'll sit there for twenty
Speaker 3: minutes and I'll turn my phone off or I'll put
Speaker 3: tones on it, and I'll just close my eyes and take
Speaker 3: that like those twenty minutes just to decompress as much
Speaker 3: as I possibly can. Sometimes, you know, where my laziness
Speaker 3: gets in and I'll get on my phone. I'll start
Speaker 3: looking at Twitter or doing whatever. But the big thing.
Speaker 3: I think speaking I say I've said it a couple
Speaker 3: of times on this podcast, but like speaking to yourself
Speaker 3: positively is one of the most important things you can
Speaker 3: do because there's enough people in this world that are
Speaker 3: going to speak natively to you, especially if you're doing
Speaker 3: something that's different being in the NFL, be an entrepreneur,
Speaker 3: doing anything that's not a nine to five job sitting
Speaker 3: at a desk, you know. So that's something that I've
Speaker 3: really wanted to take more hold of. I'm doing I'm
Speaker 3: going to Sedona in April and I'm doing four days
Speaker 3: like phone off meditation, like almost a clinic.
Speaker 4: Oh, just to learn how to do this. My next
Speaker 4: question if you actually do like a daily meditation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife is she. I mean she went to
Speaker 3: like a yoga school when she was eighteen, like it,
Speaker 3: became a yoga instructor and was like that has been
Speaker 3: a huge Each part of our lives is like kind
Speaker 3: of being more spiritually active. So we'll go to Sedona
Speaker 3: at least once a year. I was there the week
Speaker 3: after Valentine's Day because the wedding thing I was at,
Speaker 3: but we were you know, it's crystals, it's going to
Speaker 3: you know, palm readers. I did a chakra therapy yesterday
Speaker 3: or reiki, which is the getting getting an energy bringing
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. I think, like I think the
Speaker 3: masculinity of football, it kind of will if you like
Speaker 3: buy too much into it, it'll definitely like, well I
Speaker 3: don't need to do that, Like just little me, just
Speaker 3: lift weights and eat raw meat and I'll be fine,
Speaker 3: you know that type of thing. But the mental aspect
Speaker 3: of taking everything in, taking a moment for yourself and
Speaker 3: appreciate yourself. Every time I go before a game, I
Speaker 3: get in the hot set before the game, I'll close
Speaker 3: my eyes and I'll start with my toes and I'll
Speaker 3: go all the way up to every body part and
Speaker 3: I'll just say thank you, thank you three times every
Speaker 3: single body part. I have the basic saying like thank
Speaker 3: you for allowing me to do this, thank you for
Speaker 3: you know, putting on the best you know performance you
Speaker 3: possibly can. And so that's anytime I consciously do that.
Speaker 3: My my life better is in football because I do.
Speaker 3: I'm My teammates have jokingly said I'm bipolar because all
Speaker 3: we all flip the switch and get mad and I'll
Speaker 3: get a yelling match with a coach or yelling match
Speaker 3: with a player, which is something I've tried to really
Speaker 3: tone down quite a bit, because all of that is
Speaker 3: is bad energy, and you don't you don't want to
Speaker 3: promote bad energy. You want to take bad energy. And
Speaker 3: so time and one thing, one thing I've really done
Speaker 3: since being more spiritually acting, I say that really loosely,
Speaker 3: is my friend circle has gotten way smaller. And as
Speaker 3: I as I go through this life, like I'm starting
Speaker 3: to realize, like, you know, you have to be a
Speaker 3: positive influence in my life because I have a weird obsession.
Speaker 3: Now I want to keep doing this. I want to
Speaker 3: keep going going up. And if I feel like you're
Speaker 3: dragging me down at all, like you got to work
Speaker 3: on yourself first. I'm never like, hey, you're not good
Speaker 3: enough to be with me, but you got to work
Speaker 3: on yourself to be the best person you can be
Speaker 3: for our friendship, Like Will and I talk of all
Speaker 3: the time to like for us to you know, kind
Speaker 3: of get the moment.
Speaker 2: Or down?
Speaker 3: Can you up and down? You never stay stagnant And
Speaker 3: so you know, especially like the hardest time for me
Speaker 3: is around this time of the year, maybe a little earlier.
Speaker 3: If you don't wat the playoffs, but like decompressing from football,
Speaker 3: going from a competitive state all the time, especially having
Speaker 3: a daughter that's two and a half years old. Now,
Speaker 3: it's like it's hard for me to go from football
Speaker 3: every single day being told by a coach, Hey, like
Speaker 3: you those sixty five players were good, but those are
Speaker 3: three were terrible, and you know, focusing so much on
Speaker 3: those three negative plays and then going home and being
Speaker 3: a positive dad, a positive husband, those types of things
Speaker 3: which are way more important than any football game. And
Speaker 3: so that's that's kind of like where I've had to start.
Speaker 3: Like that transition for me has always been difficult. Well,
Speaker 3: once I make the transition, I'm good, and then I
Speaker 3: get back into it in the middle of the season,
Speaker 3: so I'm It's a constant work. It's probably my my
Speaker 3: biggest weakness right now as a football player as a person.
Speaker 4: If you want an affirmation worksheet, George's got my numbers, yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, And then do you actually do visualize as
Speaker 4: in like I have all my even at the high
Speaker 4: school level, right, I have them to do we do
Speaker 4: a visualization.
Speaker 1: Before you get them in a room and lay them
Speaker 1: down and stuff.
Speaker 4: We don't do that well we do that as part
Speaker 4: of because we have yoga now. Actually my daughter, George's
Speaker 4: sister does the yoga for our school, so they do
Speaker 4: some of that. But like before each game, we'll do
Speaker 4: a visualization technique and all that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 4: I have them, I write a script out for them.
Speaker 4: They do their own personal information stuff and then the
Speaker 4: affirmations turn into their visualization technique. So you take that
Speaker 4: step one and step two. So all my tackles, they're
Speaker 4: visualizing their kickset, they're visualizing the punch. You know, they
Speaker 4: do all that in their mind if we go through
Speaker 4: all the run game in the past game. So I've
Speaker 4: give them a little script to work through and so
Speaker 4: they visualize that throughout the week. So then when we
Speaker 4: give them in the game, especially like if a blitz
Speaker 4: pick up or whatever, if they're playing somebody really good.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I just want to you know, so like
Speaker 4: actually seeing that technique.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that stuff I mean I'll do. I'll think about,
Speaker 3: I mean the day of a game, like that's all
Speaker 3: you're thinking about is how you're going to block this guy,
Speaker 3: Like what techniques you're gonna use and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But I'll go out on the field before every game,
Speaker 3: and I'll walk my kicksets. Yeah, fact, I'll just take
Speaker 3: step backs until it feels more comfortable, and I'll do
Speaker 3: that three times at the where I'm comfortable at then
Speaker 3: I'll go a little faster and a little faster, and
Speaker 3: I'll like just start I was trying to feel my
Speaker 3: body the best I can, and then I'll go to
Speaker 3: to running you know, run blocks left, run bocks right,
Speaker 3: and kind of the basic stuff, but walking through it
Speaker 3: and then going faster and faster and faster until you
Speaker 3: get to the game.
Speaker 2: Then you're ready to do that.
Speaker 1: But that stuff is that's just proven too that science
Speaker 1: find it because your brain communicates with your body. Like
Speaker 1: they did a you know study with like golfers and
Speaker 1: free throw shooters, like people who all they did in
Speaker 1: the gym was work on free throws compared to another
Speaker 1: group that did half half free throws half mental, and
Speaker 1: then one group that was all mental and the one
Speaker 1: that was all mental came in and out performed everybody. Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, Halo sport.
Speaker 3: It's like a it's a headphones that you put on
Speaker 3: and basically it like I guess it somehow like charges
Speaker 3: your brain in a certain way to like help you
Speaker 3: with performance when you do it thirty forty five minutes
Speaker 3: before you go and do whether it's a workout condition.
Speaker 2: No one's touched me at our facility. Yeah, for some
Speaker 2: I think we have those.
Speaker 3: They have I have. I have that, which I'm very
Speaker 3: inconsistent in using, but have used it and it really works.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 3: It kind of even if it's a placeive, I'm a
Speaker 3: big placeibo guy to man, it doesn't work the metal
Speaker 3: that it totally helps.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, if you don't think it works, it
Speaker 2: doesn't work.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's awesome. And then there's this thing called
Speaker 3: New Calm, and the whole thing that with newcom is
Speaker 3: like it uses like you put it to your ears
Speaker 3: and you put glasses on in headphones, and it's supposed
Speaker 3: to help you reach a meditative state faster than someone
Speaker 3: that's been training you know, day like years and years
Speaker 3: to do it. So it helps you for twenty if
Speaker 3: you have twenty minutes, fifteen minutes, forty five minutes, put
Speaker 3: that on, helps you get into a minisative state, helps
Speaker 3: you wake up, helps you go to sleep, relieves anxiety,
Speaker 3: those types of things. It's it's pretty unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Nice do you do that stuff?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean we've established a bunch of things, visuals,
Speaker 2: visualizations wise. I'm big like game day, Like if it's
Speaker 2: a night game, I'll wake up, go to breakfast. When
Speaker 2: I come back, I take another nap, and then when
Speaker 2: I wake up, that's like my routine starts. It's uh
Speaker 2: like I you know the call map, it's the meditative app. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do a calm like ten to fifteen minute meditation
Speaker 2: right there. Yeah that's a good yeah, really good, such
Speaker 2: a soothing voice. Let's all do that. And then I'm
Speaker 2: a big like my routines exact same like I do
Speaker 2: the some salt the night before the game. So I
Speaker 2: do like thirty minutes. It's actually really funny. I do
Speaker 2: twenty four minutes. And I started doing this my rookie
Speaker 2: year for Kobe. Really yeah, and I just i'd like
Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl. I looked at my I was like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, that's funny, Like what a chance like that?
Speaker 2: Actually that's why I did it was because of Kobe.
Speaker 2: But so twenty four minutes some salt bath and yeah,
Speaker 2: I did the same. I So what I used to
Speaker 2: do is I'd play. I had my game boy and
Speaker 2: I play Pokemon for twenty four minutes, like just to
Speaker 2: completely not think about football, decompressed, like let my brain relax.
Speaker 2: I watched was the Witcher, like that's what I did
Speaker 2: this past time, and then have some salt. But so
Speaker 2: I take that time to myself by studying, and I
Speaker 2: do like an hour before I go to bed, I
Speaker 2: just kind of lay there and I visital as a
Speaker 2: game the next day. And so then when I wake up,
Speaker 2: the like for me, like alter egos big for me,
Speaker 2: like the joker tattoo. I have my farm. That's a
Speaker 2: big Like that's an alter ego for me. Yeah, when
Speaker 2: I you're the joker to an extent, can we see? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so to an extent. So like in college, I had
Speaker 2: a big problem, especially early on. I think snowball. So
Speaker 2: you mess up one thing and then the next thing
Speaker 2: I do twice is worse, and then get worse and
Speaker 2: advertise I have like six bad plays in a row.
Speaker 2: And so luckily, like a sports ey, college has helped
Speaker 2: me out there like have a reset. butN so, like
Speaker 2: on my wrist tape, I drew a big red button
Speaker 2: and every time I mess up I just slap it, right,
Speaker 2: So there's like a mental that's very cool. So that's
Speaker 2: what that's how I started doing it. And then the
Speaker 2: alter ego thing. We were talking about it, and you know,
Speaker 2: really since college, like the Joker has just been cut
Speaker 2: something I've been drawn to. I've had different people like
Speaker 2: throughout college and NFL say that to me as well.
Speaker 2: So it's just kind of something I've kind of loved
Speaker 2: because it's a little bit of chaos, but you have
Speaker 2: a lot of fun doing it the whole time. And
Speaker 2: so the that kind of became my reset switch. So
Speaker 2: when I go onto the field, like if there's like
Speaker 2: fourth quarter big play, I'll you'll assume me on film,
Speaker 2: I'll slap my forearm. It's kind of my switch, like, hey,
Speaker 2: lock the fuck in right, reset? Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: I love the Joker thing. There's definitely something about the
Speaker 3: Joker that I associate with as well.
Speaker 4: That's you guys. Have you heard the Bo Jackson story.
Speaker 4: So Bo Jackson got interviewed on this kind of topic
Speaker 4: and he finally he said, you know, Bo jacksond never
Speaker 4: played it.
Speaker 2: Down in football in his life.
Speaker 4: So his story was when he was in high school,
Speaker 4: he kept getting thrown out of games. Bad you know, family,
Speaker 4: whatever's going through, and so he get bad temper and
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff, and his coach set him down,
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. And then when he was
Speaker 4: in high school, he was watching Friday the Thirteenth Jason Jason, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he he just decided that's me, Like I'm the
Speaker 4: silent killer. I need to not say anything, you know,
Speaker 4: like that method kind of methodical, just badass on the field.
Speaker 4: So then he developed his practice where he'd get to
Speaker 4: the edge before the game, he'd click his heels and
Speaker 4: then he stepped on the grass. He turned into Jason
Speaker 4: I love it. And it was a total transformation for him.
Speaker 4: He never had an the penalty after that, and that's
Speaker 4: when he said his entire career took off.
Speaker 3: Jason bo He's my favorite slasher, poor character.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 3: I love those classics. Mike Meyers, Jason Voorhees, Freddy Krueger
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: I mean Brian Dawkins, I mean, have you have you
Speaker 1: listened to history or I mean all the action figures
Speaker 1: and things like that.
Speaker 2: No doubt man, that stuff. Yeah, I'm a big believer
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 1: If you are your do your players are they gonna
Speaker 1: listen to the pod? I'll have to give him if
Speaker 1: they're listening, Hey, listen to coach Kittle. He knows what
Speaker 1: the fuck he's talking about. Right, ship down.
Speaker 2: We don't swear, we don't. You don't.
Speaker 3: We don't swear at Lipscomb.
Speaker 1: Damn it, write stuff down.
Speaker 2: Oh, those are fan questions we'll get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not gonna hit all of them.
Speaker 3: The pods are usually an hour long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this has been a solid pod.
Speaker 2: Well, you have two guests.
Speaker 1: I know this has been a surprise.
Speaker 3: Bruce m v P.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have to say a lot. This is awesome.
Speaker 1: We need more, We need more out of them. Thoughts
Speaker 1: on your offensive pass interference in the Super Bowl. We're
Speaker 1: going down that tough.
Speaker 2: That's my thoughts on that. It's just tough. Let's watch it.
Speaker 2: Let's take a look.
Speaker 3: Good block by Staley.
Speaker 2: It's tough. It is Expenser ball. Look at that.
Speaker 1: You got a flag out there, and you're just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you pushed backwards.
Speaker 1: Uh, sure, white on white crime, dude, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Oh there it is.
Speaker 2: Yes, it.
Speaker 3: So I know that. I would say when you push,
Speaker 3: when you push the left or right, those usually get
Speaker 3: called a lot, But when you're going like pushing back,
Speaker 3: does hardly ever get called.
Speaker 1: It's right before the ball got there, didn't didn't.
Speaker 3: Rudn't have the same thing when we were and it didn't get.
Speaker 2: But it didn't get and they reviewed too. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: his was worse in the league.
Speaker 4: Let's knows, it was much worse. It was so because
Speaker 4: the dbs right there, and that you could see the
Speaker 4: dvs of Rock. Yeah, I mean, and that I wanted
Speaker 4: to get called. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all for the offense, but for the
Speaker 2: tight ends. No, that was a touchdown. I was not
Speaker 2: a PI.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's tough man.
Speaker 2: Oh you're saying Rudolph's No, I didn't get it wasn't
Speaker 2: a PI.
Speaker 3: What was the score of the game when that happened
Speaker 3: to you?
Speaker 2: I was ten to ten. It was two players before
Speaker 2: a halftime, so we would have gotten a field goal
Speaker 2: out of it. Wow. And we had the ball come
Speaker 2: out of.
Speaker 3: Half even out of bounce too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I'm a big avoid contact, run out
Speaker 2: of bounds as fast as possible. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Fair, that's how you make your career last longer.
Speaker 2: Good for you do what you gotta do man, all right.
Speaker 1: If you had to pick one guy in the NFL
Speaker 1: to be your tag team partner, who would you pick?
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow, I haven't thought about that, Like if I
Speaker 2: really wanted to win all the time, like Trent Brown,
Speaker 2: because I had him. He's the tackle for the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Ye that's for two years. He's like six seven, three
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pounds and he knew he moves like
Speaker 2: he's two twenty.
Speaker 3: He's a unit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I like that'd be I'd pick him because
Speaker 2: he would just pick people up and throw him around.
Speaker 2: But you know, like at the same time, like I'm an,
Speaker 2: I'm a big office the line guy, like I office
Speaker 2: lineman on my people. So that's that's why I'm giving
Speaker 2: you a hard time.
Speaker 3: No, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that accountability.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I hate linebackers, but fair enough me too.
Speaker 1: Feelings mutual. Yeah, you guys push off all the time,
Speaker 1: clearly obviously.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You grab all the time because you can't run.
Speaker 3: Oh right, here we go, your dad come fight your
Speaker 3: fights for you.
Speaker 2: Greg, he's sixty one, hene what he wants?
Speaker 3: Sixty one? Yeah, get on you look solid. You think
Speaker 3: all the drugs in college would have got to you,
Speaker 3: but you you got away from it pretty good.
Speaker 4: I can't remember very much, but I can go pretty good.
Speaker 1: Are you going? Do you see yourself? Are you wanting
Speaker 1: to be in? Like the WWE when you get down
Speaker 1: with the ball?
Speaker 2: I love WWB like I love wrestling. I like the
Speaker 2: entertainment side of it. Like one of my favorite parts
Speaker 2: is they're on like so like that people want to
Speaker 2: see us once a week for seventeen weeks out of
Speaker 2: the year, right Like WWE, these guys wrestling in front
Speaker 2: of fans four or five days a weeks, like they're
Speaker 2: getting criticized or like they're performing five six days a
Speaker 2: week year round, and so I just like appreciate their
Speaker 2: work ethic and how much they go through like to
Speaker 2: get to the biggest stage. Like for example, like the
Speaker 2: head grower now, Becky Lynch, she's like super famous to
Speaker 2: the man and all this stuff. She was in WWE
Speaker 2: back in the balls at two thousand and two, two
Speaker 2: thousand and five, but she's been like grinding for fifteen
Speaker 2: years and she's finally getting recognized. So like I respect that.
Speaker 2: Like then you said you expect guys that work hard,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love WWE. I've been in the ring
Speaker 2: like three times and I got to do a stone
Speaker 2: Cold stunner on a guy in the middle of a match,
Speaker 2: and it was one of the most It was probably
Speaker 2: in front of seventy five people, and it's one of
Speaker 2: the most exhilarating things I've ever done.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: As soon as I did it and like the crowd exploded,
Speaker 2: seventy five people, I was like, I get why people
Speaker 2: do this. Like, my buddy's an independent wrestler, and he
Speaker 2: gets he'll drive from Iowa to Maryland to Texas to
Speaker 2: Florida and he'll get pale make like one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty bucks from the match, but it's just the experience
Speaker 2: going to do it, and he just loves doing it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, right there, Yeah, stone could stunner.
Speaker 1: That's your profile pick, isn't it.
Speaker 2: And that's my buddy on the left. That's her independent wrestler.
Speaker 2: He played fullback at Iowa.
Speaker 1: Have you met Stone Cold yet?
Speaker 2: I've not met Stone Cold. He's tweeted at me. I've
Speaker 2: had a couple of conversations with him. Met the Rock
Speaker 2: at Super Bowl. I know how sick was that? I
Speaker 2: almost fainded? That was really really I didn't. I did it.
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of it, are you? I mean right,
Speaker 2: it's all right, I'm a.
Speaker 1: Fan and he he posted about you too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will like. Losing the Super Bowl is one
Speaker 2: of the worst experiences I've ever felt in my entire life.
Speaker 2: But the Rock posting a photo of me saying, hey,
Speaker 2: like I'm a big fan. That helped a little bit.
Speaker 3: That that had to help a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 1: Do you have are you gonna? Does the w W
Speaker 1: like reach out to you to come on now that
Speaker 1: you're George Kittle.
Speaker 2: A little like if they're in town, they'll be hey,
Speaker 2: do you want to come to the show? Like, like,
Speaker 2: I gotta go ring side during our bye week, which
Speaker 2: is just you know, half my chance. And that was
Speaker 2: that was awesome. Uh. I go to Wrestlmanting with my
Speaker 2: dad and my buddy Manders for the last two years.
Speaker 2: We're going to Tampa this year. That will be a
Speaker 2: fun one. You know, we'll see if I can. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: last two years. It's an absolutely like we're in New
Speaker 2: York class and during w like on Sunday, no chance,
Speaker 2: they don't. They won't let me touch that. But we'll
Speaker 2: see what, you're the new Gronk. But he's Gronk.
Speaker 3: He is Gronk, He's Gronks and beauty.
Speaker 2: He's awesome.
Speaker 1: What would your wrestling name be?
Speaker 2: See? I get asked that all the time. I think
Speaker 2: that restling him is not something that you choose. It
Speaker 2: just comes you naturally. And it hasn't come to me
Speaker 2: naturally yet. So I'm just gonna I'm gonna wait till
Speaker 2: till it hits me right in the face.
Speaker 3: God, I can't wait. I can't wait for that day.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a beautiful, beautiful, like coming out of cocoon.
Speaker 3: God. Yeah, butterfly, finally, I'm a butterfly. Let's do one
Speaker 3: or two more. What do you guys got?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: I wanted to where I mean, we're too far along.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask about the father son writing the
Speaker 1: letters because I sort of got I was sitting I
Speaker 1: was sitting in my beautiful extended say in Oakland, California,
Speaker 1: and leg I teared up. I teared up on that
Speaker 1: segment because I just thought the whole father son thing
Speaker 1: was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm going to you want to go
Speaker 2: to Yea? So my dad when was coach at Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: they had a linebacker who passed away awesome box. But
Speaker 2: so he was a part of that. And we found
Speaker 2: out his dad wrote him letters for every single one
Speaker 2: of his games, like his whole life. And so I
Speaker 2: was going off to college and you know, again, as
Speaker 2: a college student, your communications keep your communication skills are
Speaker 2: very low, like I hardly talked to my parents and
Speaker 2: all that stuff because I was doing other things. So
Speaker 2: he thought it was a good idea, like, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna write you a letter before your game. So starting
Speaker 2: my red shirt freshman year, so the year after I
Speaker 2: read shirted and I was actually suiting up a little bit,
Speaker 2: he wrote he would write me a letter for every game.
Speaker 2: And they've evolved, like back in college. It was like
Speaker 2: he gave me a scout and report, like hey, when
Speaker 2: we played him back in nineteen seventy nine. This is
Speaker 2: so it was like a little history last seon the
Speaker 2: record for the whole like you know the last twenty years,
Speaker 2: what the trophy means, like I mean, but then you
Speaker 2: give me a little breakdown like who their best players,
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and you know what's evolved, and a
Speaker 2: lot of it has gone with like the visualization stuff.
Speaker 2: I can't say that would to save my life, but
Speaker 2: yeah it is, and it's it's just kind of growing
Speaker 2: from that. Like like the NFC Championship game, the letter
Speaker 2: was like thirteen pages long, which that's why I read
Speaker 2: before right like right when I get to stateum, I'll
Speaker 2: read that. That's just like for me, it's one of
Speaker 2: those mental cues, Like it's like one of my first
Speaker 2: cues when I get to the stadium. It's like, all right,
Speaker 2: lock in, we're playing football. Like the letters just kind
Speaker 2: of like one of my part of my checklists. But
Speaker 2: it's definitely something that's the reason that we've been able
Speaker 2: to stay so close. And then I was at college,
Speaker 2: it was awesome too because you give me like you know,
Speaker 2: fatherly advice like hey, you know, maybe do this, not
Speaker 2: do that. But just always awesome because I have you know,
Speaker 2: my dad's my best friend, and I have his voice
Speaker 2: with me on every single game day, which is pretty special.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's been great. Like I had a little separation
Speaker 4: issue in taking off.
Speaker 2: It's hard.
Speaker 4: So I was coaching ball, so I mean we're you
Speaker 4: know you and all that kind of stuff is so
Speaker 4: it just gave me a way to kind of connect
Speaker 4: and try to encourage him to make good choices and
Speaker 4: be a good player and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: And like you said, it's kind of evolved over the years.
Speaker 4: I don't have very much football stuff I can tell
Speaker 4: him anymore, you know what I mean. So it's all good.
Speaker 4: But it's been really fun just staying connected that way,
Speaker 4: and it's a thing. And I kind of enjoyed the
Speaker 4: Robbers and love the NFL game.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: It's just like once when he got drafted, like we've
Speaker 4: been to a field and we was went to a Bears
Speaker 4: game and all that kind of stuff, and or go
Speaker 4: up to Green Bay. I took him up there a
Speaker 4: few times when we lived in Wisconsin. But I love
Speaker 4: going to the different stadiums, and you know, I just
Speaker 4: love the NFL crowd. You know, there's just like it's
Speaker 4: a Sunday. There's sixty five seventy five thousand people just
Speaker 4: ready to let it loose. And it's adult entertainment. It's
Speaker 4: not quite Vegas, but you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I like it so much better than the college game.
Speaker 4: And its just and the players are just you know,
Speaker 4: every team you can you know, you might be six
Speaker 4: and whatever. But I mean everybody's good, you know, all
Speaker 4: the players are good, and and I just appreciate how
Speaker 4: freaking hard it is to win. You know, you got
Speaker 4: to show up.
Speaker 2: At the league is built for eight and eight it is, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it is.
Speaker 4: And to get above eight and eight it's hard. It
Speaker 4: is really hard. It's hard to win every week. So
Speaker 4: it's just uh, and so this year was really special.
Speaker 4: But yeah, just being a little bit of part of that.
Speaker 2: He only missed one game this year really really and
Speaker 2: it was because he had a Friday night. We were
Speaker 2: played Thursday night in Arizona and he had a game Friday.
Speaker 2: He couldn't go in my high schall team.
Speaker 3: So, but how do you feel about it? Like your
Speaker 3: son reaching the star power he has. It's such a
Speaker 3: short time in the NFL, Like what's that mean.
Speaker 2: To you as a parent?
Speaker 4: You know, it has just been such a wild rush
Speaker 4: last three years. I mean we've kind of chat about
Speaker 4: it because you know, at Iowa was kind of you know,
Speaker 4: whatever catches he had and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 4: and then he got hurt his senior year and then
Speaker 4: combine stuff, you know, I got invited, thank goodness, and
Speaker 4: all that, and then he performed pretty well, but then
Speaker 4: draft night was a little bit disappointed honestly, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, fifth rounder and all that. So but grateful
Speaker 4: to be drafted, you know, like you said, and all that,
Speaker 4: and then having no idea if he'sn't even going to
Speaker 4: make the team. So it's not like you're happy, but
Speaker 4: like what you never know. Yeah, and then they trade
Speaker 4: vance McDonald about two weeks before the season starts, and
Speaker 4: then he's a starting dude. And then it was just
Speaker 4: like crazy, and so that year was all learning. And
Speaker 4: then year two when he broke the you know reception
Speaker 4: the yardage directord for tight ends, I was just over
Speaker 4: the top. I mean, it's just great. So you know,
Speaker 4: we come from you know, I keep thinking back to
Speaker 4: his senior years six three hundred and eighty five pounds,
Speaker 4: and you know, he was the last scholarship offer to Iowa.
Speaker 4: You know, we got a call the day of signing date.
Speaker 4: So just just the whole ride has been incredible. So I'm,
Speaker 4: you know, really proud of him for the hard work
Speaker 4: you put in. And I guess you know the other
Speaker 4: thing too, is elected captain last year, and I think
Speaker 4: that's a big deal just you know, is connection to
Speaker 4: the team and all that. So I'm just grateful we're
Speaker 4: riding the wave and know it's a short ride and
Speaker 4: just being grateful and appreciate it every day. And yeah,
Speaker 4: trying to make the most of it and keep his
Speaker 4: head on straight and feed on the ground. And he
Speaker 4: did his leg work today, which was I told him
Speaker 4: it's like putting a quarter in the piggy bank every
Speaker 4: time you do another squad, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So anyway, it's all good. So we're just we believe
Speaker 4: in the process and love the game and grateful to
Speaker 4: be part of it.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: That is awesome.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Let's have bloss Is obsessed with the forty nine ers. Bo,
Speaker 1: that's the last question. You can have one question you
Speaker 1: don't want to ask your dude, don't act like I
Speaker 1: mean you you always right to ask a question. I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: instead of reading one more question, you get the question
Speaker 1: since you're you're a forty nine ers guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even think about it before I came
Speaker 3: on here.
Speaker 2: Did you walk in late? How did you get on
Speaker 2: the boss? I have a key to the back door.
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, yeah, yeah, back door big, backdoor guy big.
Speaker 1: Would you rather just read one then?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, in awe, what do we have?
Speaker 2: Don't ask me anything about the combine? I don't know. No,
Speaker 2: that's stupid.
Speaker 1: With the hard is that you take any of those
Speaker 1: you want to read? Keep scrolling? Do we have any more?
Speaker 3: Cape got to that it was better hair.
Speaker 2: Georgia Taylor Hawks for Life eighty nine.
Speaker 1: Hawks for Life eighty nine. I know what George Taylor les.
Speaker 2: It's the Seahawks. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: So I say like, I'll say go Hawks. And then
Speaker 2: on my Niners Twitter followers, are you kidding me? Like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: what do you mean?
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, went to Iowa, folks, where's your
Speaker 3: record against Michigan?
Speaker 2: One in one? I didn't play an either game. Yes,
Speaker 2: I was yeah Richer, Hey we beat him? What were
Speaker 2: they rick number too? Yeah? They came into kinnick Stadia
Speaker 2: night game ball was super pumped, they're gonna win and
Speaker 2: under it was a rep. Was he a walk on
Speaker 2: freshman kicker kicked it through the uprights for the win.
Speaker 2: He's a monster?
Speaker 3: Yeah that's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys lost.
Speaker 3: That's weed, weed and I was in the NFL. You're
Speaker 3: a part of so I was.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I will say like one of my biggest, one of
Speaker 2: my favorite things is so I'm in the NFL. But
Speaker 2: I will like curb stopped Ohio State my second year.
Speaker 2: I think that of my rookie year, like fifty five
Speaker 2: to twenty four. So then we got Bosa, so almost weekly,
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, Bolsa go Hawks, Like it.
Speaker 3: Sucks due how about the Boa brothers. They're like robots.
Speaker 2: I got to hang out with Joey came to the
Speaker 2: Vikings game. Yeah, and so then he, uh me and
Speaker 2: the two Bosas hung out after that. They were fun,
Speaker 2: like they're they're insane.
Speaker 3: The wild I saw the dad yeah no way, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was walking. It was like Joe Thomas was there too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I was like, Joe, this is this place is
Speaker 3: way which is white red neck for you. Why they
Speaker 3: were just trying to get a beer. We're going to
Speaker 3: go get a beer nowhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to beer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a wild time. Well, bozzn't have a question. Man,
Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Well this is super awesome.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1: I love the element too of dad, and just right
Speaker 1: out of the gate too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm sure was your was your dad?
Speaker 1: Were you loud in the stands when he was growing
Speaker 1: up playing ball?
Speaker 2: Well, he was coaching, like.
Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, I know you see him.
Speaker 3: No, no, George, you probably get that look and know
Speaker 3: when he's got to get his you know, asked when
Speaker 3: he gets home. Yeah, yeah, what do you What are
Speaker 3: you most mad about? Drop catches, penalties, game, run game?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, bad hands, bad footwork.
Speaker 4: I thought I thought he's gonna be an offensive lineman, right,
Speaker 4: so I mean I played ot and uh.
Speaker 2: You know, so I mean respect I had.
Speaker 4: I had the small little kid size blocking, you know,
Speaker 4: and he was doing mere dodge and punch drills ever
Speaker 4: since he was in fifth grade. Really, oh, because I
Speaker 4: thought he's for sure to go to alignment. So it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, in the whole moving guys and so like,
Speaker 4: you know, I think mostly you know, he pretty early on,
Speaker 4: but like you know, his first few years and I
Speaker 4: will work a little bit taxing because he didn't take
Speaker 4: the game very seriously.
Speaker 2: And he didn't I enjoyed myself.
Speaker 4: He didn't work as hard as he should have. So
Speaker 4: but you know, other than that, overall though, he's embraced
Speaker 4: the grind and he's been a guy that's invested, So
Speaker 4: that's all been pretty good. But yeah, we're learning to
Speaker 4: deal with him being a tight end rather than an
Speaker 4: offensive tackle. But it's it's okay. There's some disappointments in life.
Speaker 2: You never saw this, dude, my fifth grade there's some disappointments. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my fifth grade foot at your.
Speaker 1: Mom, like, why you this is obviously you.
Speaker 2: Literally fifth grade football team. He was our first day
Speaker 2: of padded practice, my first year of tackle football. And
Speaker 2: he has his speech where he has a whole team,
Speaker 2: we're about to do mere dodge drill, right, just shuffle
Speaker 2: like fallow footwork, offs line, passet and before he started, goes, hey, look,
Speaker 2: all of you are going to aspire to the offensive lineman,
Speaker 2: but not all of you will be good enough, Like
Speaker 2: offense line is the pinnacle of football. Position is and
Speaker 2: none of you Like He's like, there's gonna be five
Speaker 2: of you that can play it, and then a lot
Speaker 2: of you are gonna have to play other positions and
Speaker 2: that's okay, but just know that you're kind of a disappointment.
Speaker 3: He said that, Yeah, serious, I was the only one
Speaker 3: I was like no.
Speaker 2: I was like no. I was like I'm playing running back,
Speaker 2: Like no, no, You're not gonna get me.
Speaker 3: With true disappointment to a father literally, so you had.
Speaker 2: Like like that's tough. That's not The undersized kids in
Speaker 2: fifth grade, like you put them at corner because they're
Speaker 2: so small they they'll get hurt. They were trying out
Speaker 2: for like left guard because they're like, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: the best office lineman ever, and you're like, what the
Speaker 2: heck I had to move.
Speaker 4: I had to move a center to a quarterback right,
Speaker 4: and like he didn't.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, that's the thing too, Like POPWORNI. That
Speaker 3: kind of put the kids that are like a you're
Speaker 3: an office lineman, play wanting to play it.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 3: That's good your psychology coaching. That's good coaching.
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