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Speaker 1: let's dive into some of your questions. Ryan, why does

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Speaker 1: bo Nicks seem to be an afterthought compared to Williams

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Speaker 1: He threw for over four thousand yards, thirty three combined touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: It happens a lot in sports, and obviously bo Nicks

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Speaker 1: Question for the mailback, What football quote unquote podcast, YouTube, TV,

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Speaker 1: What literally happened to him? It's in Green Bay to Dallas,

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Speaker 1: took a year off, pretended to watch all the Dallas games,

428
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Speaker 1: and then Jerry Jones hired him. So I think I'd

429
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Speaker 1: probably say it's a coin flip. I wouldn't bet one

430
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars that he's going to be a head coach

431
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six, but I wouldn't bet against it either, right,

432
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Speaker 1: just probably be a stay away. I would say he's

433
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Speaker 1: definitely gonna interview next year for some of these jobs.

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Speaker 1: I think it also will depend on who, Like who

435
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Speaker 1: else is out there? You know, Ben Johnson's now off

436
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: the market? Are there Liam Cohen's off the market? He

437
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: would have been a guy number one target. Again, probably

438
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: who are the top guys that are in the mix?

439
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Speaker 1: Like would you rather hire Robert Sala or Mike McCarthy?

440
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: Like those are type questions people are going to be

441
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Speaker 1: asking themselves. Been listening for a while and never hear

442
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: much about the Broncos. With that said, what are your

443
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: thoughts about the organization as they head into the future.

444
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: They look better on paper but have some serious needs.

445
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: How do you get ahead in division with such good

446
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: competition in teams, Chiefs best quarterback and coach, Chargers added

447
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: a top five coach and a quarterback with insane potential,

448
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,959
Speaker 1: and the Raiders Tom Brady taking over. It's funny like

449
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: for a couple of years when things weren't going well

450
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: with the Russell Wilson the trade, you guys were talked

451
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: about a lot and it was all negative. Then Sehn

452
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: Payton gets there. You guys just get the train back

453
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 1: on the tracks. You're clearly going in the right direction.

454
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: But everything's normal, Like there's no drama. You guys don't

455
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Speaker 1: have I would say, really polarizing players. You don't have

456
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Speaker 1: crazy situations going on. I would say, you're in a

457
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: really good spot. Sometimes it's just okay to be just

458
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Speaker 1: kind of silent. You know, it's not no one's talking

459
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: about you because you're irrelevant, right, Like, no one's talking

460
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: about you because it's just nothing really going on. Negatively

461
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: and from a positive standpoint, all signs point to your

462
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: headed in the right I saw a headline the other

463
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: day Sean Payton basically admitted, like we're gonna draft a

464
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Speaker 1: running back, like no shit. So I'd be pretty happy

465
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Speaker 1: if I were you guys a question for the mailbag. Well,

466
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Speaker 1: the day finally come where Mike Shanahan gets the credit

467
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: he is due and an induction into the Hall of Fame.

468
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: He has two Super Bowl as a head coach and

469
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Speaker 1: one as a coordinator, was part of finally getting l

470
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Speaker 1: Way over the hump and introduced the zone blocking scheme

471
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: to the NFL that continues to flourish to this day.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe his time in Washington casts a major

473
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Speaker 1: shadow over his credentials that many voters overlook the total

474
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Speaker 1: body of work. You know, I think we could debate

475
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Speaker 1: coaches in the merits of who gets in who doesn't

476
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Speaker 1: Beside like the absolute the Bill Walsh or Bill Belichick types.

477
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: I think once you get a certain distance away like

478
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Speaker 1: this guy, you'd say Shanahan, who was good at the

479
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Speaker 1: two thousand, But I mean, truly, his career in the

480
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: nineties is what made him a Hall of Famer. Right

481
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: goes to the Niner Steve Young Super Bowl, finally gets

482
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Speaker 1: Steve Young in that offense to the Super Bowl, and

483
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: then takes John Alway in the Broncos. They were unreal

484
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: in the nineties with Terrell Davis. Right, So because of

485
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: his zone blocking scheme. That's a long time ago, right,

486
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: Like when did what year did Mike Shanahan get hired

487
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Speaker 1: with Denver? My guest would be ninety five, Like did

488
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Speaker 1: he officially take over ninety five? And then the ninety

489
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Speaker 1: seven ninety eight, So I just think there's a gap

490
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Speaker 1: and he might be in one of those situations where

491
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: he gets in way way later, which is sad. You know,

492
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Speaker 1: it's like, is he going to get in in ten, fifteen,

493
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Speaker 1: twenty years when he's dead. I saw being around the

494
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Raiders with Ken Stabler that finally got into the Hall

495
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: of Fame and he was dead. It's like, what are

496
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Speaker 1: we doing here? But it doesn't feel like he's got

497
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: momentum that's gonna take him to the Hall of Fame

498
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: right now? Fair or not? I mean, it's just one

499
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: of my I don't get caught up in situations like

500
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: this guy for like Hall of Fames. I'd even argue

501
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: awards like I just don't care that much. If Lamar

502
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: Jackson had got the MVP, I would have disagreed. I

503
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: would have gave it to Josh. But it's like whatever,

504
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't. If Mike Chhannan's in the Hall of fame

505
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: if he's not like it's a huge deal for him.

506
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm not denying that, like for the people involved, but

507
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying my personal like thoughts and takes. I

508
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: have to fake to get really worked up, I really do.

509
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: I just don't really care that much about stuff like that.

510
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: Every year for the past five years, at least one

511
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Speaker 1: team picking in the top five managed to make of

512
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Speaker 1: the playoffs in the same year. What team picking in

513
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Speaker 1: this year's top five do you think it's the best

514
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Speaker 1: chance of making the playoffs. Here are the past teams

515
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: with the top five draft pick that made it to

516
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Twenty four Commanders and the Chargers because they

517
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: drafted five, twenty three Texans second and third overall, twenty

518
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: two Jags first overall and Giants fifth overall, twenty one,

519
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: Niners third overall and Bengals fifth overall. Twenty Washington. Well,

520
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: I would say that who's drafting one the Titans. That

521
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: feels like a stretch. Two the Browns feels like a

522
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: stretch given their quarterback situation. Three the Giants, I have

523
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: a hard time seeing that. Then the Patriots and the Jags.

524
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: I think it have to be one of those two teams.

525
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if Trevor Lawrence could just have a solid season,

526
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: then who knows, maybe the Jags could actually fly a

527
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: little under the radar, and then obviously the you know,

528
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots that division. I think Miami's gonna be terrible.

529
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: If I was a betting man right now, the Dolphins

530
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: will be drafting really, really high next year. I don't

531
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: know what one overall, but I think they're more likely

532
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: to be drafted in the top five than be a

533
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: playoff team. Speak of the Dolphins, what are the odds

534
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: that Gruden will be the next coach of the Dolphins?

535
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: Seems like a stretch question, but McDaniel's not a real

536
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: head coach. We all know that. I agree. Gruden is

537
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: getting attention from the NFL and is beloved in the

538
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: state of Florida, and my guess is he would love

539
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Speaker 1: to bring them back the Miami Dolphin brand that he

540
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: grew up with when he was a kid, the same

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Speaker 1: way he did with the Raiders in the nineties and

542
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Speaker 1: early two thousands. I think if and when they fire

543
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: everybody in Miami and I think this year has a

544
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Speaker 1: chance to just be a train wreck. I mean a

545
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Speaker 1: train wreck that you would have to imagine he would

546
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Speaker 1: be in an option he's gonna want. I mean, he

547
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: wanted it with Harbaugh for a while. He's wanted sexy

548
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: coaches before and they've kind of ended up, you know,

549
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: in a situation where they hire a really good coordinator.

550
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: But like, if you told me right now, the Dolphins

551
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: win five games and Steven Ross fires, everybody give me

552
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: your top three candidates that Steven Ross would be going after.

553
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: I would say Belichick, Gruden, and like Kirby Smart, he's

554
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: gonna want he gonna want a name. You know, he's

555
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna want a sexy name up there. So I'm in

556
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: agreement there. I would say Gruden would be in the mix.

557
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Football question, do you think the Commanders should trade for

558
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: Trey hendricks Sin or Jalen Ramsey or do you think

559
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: it would be better to give Adam Peters a chance

560
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: to make impactful picks in the early rounds like he

561
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: did last year, which would make us a contender. Thanks

562
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: from the Kafia big mob guy here, I would say

563
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: that what it would cost to get Hendrickson, I feel

564
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: is a little risky at thirty one years old. To me,

565
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is such a great player, no brainer, and

566
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: he's actually a little younger too, and obviously Max Crosby

567
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: would have been worth it. I think in that situation trading,

568
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Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't give up Trey Hendrickson for minimum

569
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: of like one in a two is like the Washington

570
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: Commander is really a player away. You can also utilize

571
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: Jaden's rookie contract the next couple of years as well.

572
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: So I would say no on that one, and Jalen

573
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Speaker 1: not because I wouldn't want Trey Hendrickson on my team.

574
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: Like to me, I would have come, we're getting a meeting.

575
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, would you guys be willing to trade

576
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson? That's the Bengals To me, if I'm Madam Peters,

577
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting my number two, I'm getting Dan Quinn'm getting

578
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, and we're having a pow wow. Jalen Ramsey,

579
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Speaker 1: I don't even need to really tell Dan that's I'm

580
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: hanging up. You mean, the guy that we all kind

581
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: of know has been showing up late that you don't want,

582
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: that didn't ask for a trade, that you're trying to

583
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: kick out, that for the first time in his career,

584
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: didn't make a Pro Bow last year and makes a

585
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: ton of money. Not Doug, We're good. We also just

586
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: traded for a corner. Now, over the last five years,

587
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Jalen Ramsey than Latimore, But in twenty

588
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: twenty five, Latimore's on my team, and two I'm just

589
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: not trading for Jalen Ramsey. Is Kyle the next Andy Reid?

590
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: Your last pod got me thinking He's been at the

591
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl but could never get over the hump. Has

592
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: mostly had a good not great quarterback. Is it possible

593
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: the Niners will eventually let him go the same way

594
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: Philly let Andy go and he flourishes with his next team. Yeah?

595
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean is Kevin Garnett once said anything as possible?

596
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: Is he gonna win a Super Bowl with Brock Purty, Well,

597
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: you would say two years ago he had his opportunity

598
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: and he fell up short. Now, unlike Andy, I think

599
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: Andy only went to one Super Bowl and Philly Kyle's

600
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: been to two and was leading in both. So Andy

601
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: maintained winning for a long time. Right, He didn't get fired,

602
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: I think till his fourteenth year in Philadelphia. But he

603
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: he just had come off an eight and eight and

604
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: then I think a four and twelve season, So does

605
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: Kyle have like another bad season? I think here's the

606
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: thing is the Eagles, clearly the owner was very, very

607
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: into like the two guys they went after when they

608
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: fired Andy, Bill O'Brien turned down the job because he

609
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: had just got to Penn State and he felt kind

610
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: of obligated to help clean up the situation after paternal

611
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: mess in Sandusky and then Chip Kelly, so like they

612
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: were on two guys that Bill O'Brien was a huge

613
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: top candidate around football and Chip literally had just turned

614
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: down the Bucks job after he accepted it the previous year.

615
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: He's like the number one candidate on the market. Aged

616
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,959
Speaker 1: a little poorly, but that's a fact at the time,

617
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: and it was a really big deal when he got hired,

618
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: Like who is that guy? Now? Who am I firing

619
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan to hire? Because listen, I will entertain like

620
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Speaker 1: if he has another six to seven wins season, like

621
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: let's says football, he'd get immediately hired. But I would

622
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: understand people not being happy. But who are you going

623
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: to replace him with? Who are you going to replace

624
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: him with? And the answer is there isn't really one,

625
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: Like I can't hire a seventy five year old Belichick.

626
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: Who's you know, who's like does his girlfriend get to

627
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: come to speaking of Belichick? Maybe I subconsciously I kind

628
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: of saw it in my peripheral vision here and that's

629
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: why I said his name, But like, I don't who

630
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: are the other names? Like you're hiring next year's Liam

631
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: Cohen to take over for Kyle. I'm a big college

632
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: football fan, and I'm excited to see how Belichick does

633
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: North Carolina. In your opinion, what would success look like

634
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: for him in his first year? Is there a benchmark

635
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: benchmark number of wins or recruiting finish. Do you think

636
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: that he has actually committed to coaching at the college

637
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: level or is this just something that will fill the

638
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: time assuming he is reasonably successful. Is it a possibility

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Speaker 1: that he is at un and C for more than

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Speaker 1: a year or two. I just don't believe Bill would

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Speaker 1: stick around in college for any teams that came knocking.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I'm just not sure At this

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Speaker 1: point in time, he's getting hired back in the NFL

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Speaker 1: ever again, so I think there's a fair chance that

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Speaker 1: like that ship is sailed. Like I know, they love

646
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Speaker 1: to say that. I'm trying to look for his team

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. I'm trying to look at their schedule. I

648
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Speaker 1: don't think anyone's ever hired him in the NFL again.

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Speaker 1: Now he goes ten to two or he does something

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Speaker 1: like that, he would be back in the mix. But

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Speaker 1: like to me, a successful season was a record. Last year,

652
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Speaker 1: they were tenth in the ACC, so they weren't very good.

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00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: Eight and four is that pretty good? So they open

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Speaker 1: with TCU at home at Charlotte Richmond UCF, so I

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Speaker 1: think it's fair. Anything less than like a three to

656
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: one start would be a letdown. Then he gets Clemson. Okay,

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00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go lost there. Cal just had like six

658
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: guys transfer, so he should beat Cal. Now it's at Cal,

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00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: long road trip. It bills down that Virginia at Syracuse, Stanford,

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Speaker 1: Wake Forest, Duke, North Carolina State. Seems like a pretty

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00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: manageable schedule. I would say eight to nine wins is realistic.

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00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: Recruiting rankings are hard to tell. Now with nil, what's good?

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Speaker 1: What's bad? Is Russell Wilson a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: I'm a lifelong Hawks fan, so answer to me is

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Speaker 1: a resounding yes. But I've seen this topic of convo

666
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Speaker 1: on my feed a lot lately in opinions are pretty split.

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Speaker 1: I would think a Super Bowl ring should have been

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Speaker 1: to ten Pro Bowls. Passer rating of a three hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty touchdowns and one hundred and eleven interceptions would

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Speaker 1: make it obvious. What are your thoughts five years ago?

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Speaker 1: I would have said a no brainer. Now when you

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Speaker 1: say the word first ballot, like, I gotta hesitate on

673
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: that one a little bit, you know. I think he

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00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: definitely had a five year span where he was a

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00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: pretty special player, right, but that second Super Bowl would

676
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: have made him a no doubter. It's gone pretty weird

677
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: the last four or five years. I mean, it's getting

678
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: really weird, and I think first ballot's off the table.

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00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: So he won the Walter Payton Man of the Year

680
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: in twenty you know, sometimes with the Pro Bowls, obviously

681
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: some of these he was a first ballot Pro Bowl guy,

682
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: But are some of these trying to think of the NFC.

683
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: You had a couple good Stafford years obviously had Rogers

684
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Speaker 1: all those years. He had Drew Brees all those years.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff had a couple, you know, in the late

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Speaker 1: twenty tens. I'd have to go back and look who

687
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Speaker 1: this Cam Newton. He was a second team All Pro

688
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Speaker 1: one time in nineteen. Yeah, I don't think he's a

689
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Speaker 1: first ballot, so I would say no on that, No

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Speaker 1: on first ballot. Packers fan from Ireland here, congrats on

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Speaker 1: the wedding, non football question related. I'm headed to Philly

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Speaker 1: for the summer to work. I know you spent a

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Speaker 1: few years in Philadelphia, So what are some of the

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00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: must see spots things to do there? Touristy or non touristy.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is like some people ask me

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Speaker 1: about my time there, and obviously I went out a

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Speaker 1: little bit, like with some of my buddies that worked

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Speaker 1: on the staff. But I spent so much time at

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Speaker 1: that facility, and I wasn't exactly flush with cash, so

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Speaker 1: in terms of like checking out the restaurants, I ate

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Speaker 1: the facility. I would say ninety percent of my time there,

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Speaker 1: and if I wasn't near the facility, it was like

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Speaker 1: subway or something. I did not lead like a life

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Speaker 1: that was very cultured in Philly. Beside my second year,

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Speaker 1: I lived right behind the Art Museum, which has the

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Speaker 1: steps where Rocky ran up, so I would say, Downtown's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. You know Pats Gino's. I always like Tony Luke's.

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00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: There was this deli right by Chickis and Pete's, kind

709
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Speaker 1: of by where the stadium is that I thought had

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00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: like the best turkey sandwich I've ever had. I think

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00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: it was the bread. But like I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: King of Prussia mall I. I probably didn't do as

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00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: much as I should have when I was there. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't like I was like, let's go see where Benjamin

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Speaker 1: Franklin signed the Constitution by the Liberty Bill. So you're

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Speaker 1: probably asking, you know, I go see the Novacare Novacare School,

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Speaker 1: go to Phillies game, past Genos. Let me just say

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Speaker 1: you did. It would probably be my recommendation. But before

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Speaker 1: we get out of here, I need to welcome you

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Speaker 1: to Chasing Challenges, brought to you by Microsoft in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Just like in the business world, overcoming obstacles is key

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Speaker 1: turn challenges into opportunities. In this segment, we'll explore the

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Speaker 1: biggest challenges being faced in the NFL in how they

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Speaker 1: can be overcome whatever challenge you're facing, Microsoft empowers you

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Speaker 1: with the expertise to say, bring it on. This week,

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Speaker 1: we're discussing the challenge face by I think it's two teams.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the Browns and the Giants, and we're

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00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: less than a week away from the draft, and their

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00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: quarterback situations are dire. And if you look at both

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Speaker 1: these two teams. Start with the Browns, Deshaun Watson is

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Speaker 1: never going to play another snap for them. They play

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Speaker 1: in a division with Lamar Jackson who's won multiple MVP

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Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow, who was just in the MVP discussion

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Speaker 1: when his team went nine to eight and took the

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Speaker 1: Bengals to the Super Bowl. So, and who knows, maybe

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers ends up on the Pittsburgh Steelers, but that's

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00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: obviously a big coin flip. If you are going to

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00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: pass on a quarterback here at too, you have to realize,

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00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: like you could be crappy for the next couple of

742
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: years and never sniff a top five pick. And there

743
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: is no guaranteed the guy that you're gonna draft on

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00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: the second day of the draft is gonna be any good,

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00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: So you better think long and hard about like should

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00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: we just pull the trigger here too? And obviously the

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00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: same thing with the Giants. You're in a division now

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Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts who just won the Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: before he won the Super Bowl, when you said Jalen

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00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: Hurts best game of his career, it was also in

751
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a couple years ago. Jayden Daniels, who

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00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: looked like one of the best rookies we've ever seen.

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00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: And listen, we can debate this guy all we want.

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00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. The Giants would sell their left leg to

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00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: have Dak Prescott have been their quarterback for the last

756
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: six or seven years. So you're just gonna play a season.

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00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: If you're Brian day Ball who's coaching for his job

758
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: and Joe Shane is GMing for his job with Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson and Jameis Winston with Tommy Devido in the room,

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00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 1: like that, that's what you're gonna do. You're drafting number

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Speaker 1: three overall. I just think that these teams, the discussions

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00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: they're having and I listen, you can say owners medal,

763
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: they shouldn't not get involved. If I was Jimmy Haslam

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00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: or I was the Maras or the Tishes or whatever, like,

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00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: are we sure, guys? And this isn't just about getting

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00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: Shador and getting the names up, and like you can

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00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: even bring up the other quarterbacks, like are we sure?

768
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: Because the hit raid on guys in the second and

769
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: third round for every guy like an Andy Dalton. This

770
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: starts for a long time. There are a lot of

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00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: guys that you couldn't even think about because they never

772
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: played and they weren't any good. And our careers feel

773
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: like they're on the line here, especially through the Browns,

774
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: like you have a good team, like you have really

775
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: good players, and Travis Hunh just had one of the

776
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: most remarkable seasons you'll ever see in college, and who knows,

777
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: maybe ends up playing both ways in the pros that

778
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: would be even more remarkable. Who's playing quarterback for you?

779
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco? Can he Pikett? I just think that these

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00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: meetings that these teams, those two specifically are having their coach,

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00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: the GM and the owner. And we saw last year

782
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: with Hard Knocks, when they were all powowing there in

783
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Joe Shane's office with the owner, and it was just like,

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00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: are we sure, guys? And I think it is very

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00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: fair for both those owners who even if they are

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00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: desperately trying to be hands off, Are we sure, boys,

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00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: this is what we want to do. This is the

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Speaker 1: right decision because if we take one of these players, awesome,

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00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: it's cool. But if we got no quarterback, that guy

790
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: could be an all rookie player and it won't mean

791
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: a damn thing because we're gonna get our ass kicked

792
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: more often than not come Sunday because we don't have

793
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: a good quarterback play. So I think the challenge of

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Speaker 1: making this decision has to be bringing stress, keeping these

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00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: guys up and like going through every single scenario of like,

796
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: we better be sure when we finally do pull the trigger.

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