WEBVTT - Ep. 197 — The Choice Between Paying Down Debt and Building Your Business

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown. Ambitions.

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<v Speaker 2>How you feeling, Mandra feeling fine, feeling just fine, Feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody at work needs to stop mentioning the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it can be any name.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're getting close, aren't you? Thought I would send

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<v Speaker 2>you this email? But let me know if I just

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<v Speaker 2>send it to someone else. I know it's getting close.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it must be so much.

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<v Speaker 2>If the green light is on slack, I'm here until

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<v Speaker 2>further notice. When I'm not here, I won't be here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I don't know. You feel bad for all

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<v Speaker 2>the texts that you send your friends when they were

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<v Speaker 2>expecting at the very end, and you're like, has it

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<v Speaker 2>happened yet? Has it happened yet, because it's happening to

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<v Speaker 2>me now, And I'm like, leave me alone. It hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>happened yet. I'll let you know. But uh yeah, feeling

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<v Speaker 2>feeling okay. I'm excited for I told you guys last

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<v Speaker 2>week that we were getting a jump on like holiday decorating,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had all of our friends come over and

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<v Speaker 2>decorate our house. Looks ridiculous because I realized that it's

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<v Speaker 2>mid November and we have all of our lights up.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a Christmas tree. That's nice though it is nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, realistically, it was the only way we were

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to, like we were going to

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<v Speaker 2>have time the babies do December, like early December. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have time to do it if we waited,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was you know, before Thanksgiving and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>So but it was it was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But now I just feel so silly. I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you keep a Christmas tree alive for a month

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<v Speaker 2>and a half. I'll find out.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see, Oh, you have one of the real Christmas trees. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not doing all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Husbig got super sentimental about it. He's like, maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>should go chop down our own. I'm like, oh, let's

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<v Speaker 2>just take it down. He's like, well, next year we

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<v Speaker 2>can go with the baby and chop it down. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. It's being very like Norman Rockwell, oh right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, You're like I've learned, like in wifing that like

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<v Speaker 1>I say okay to the things that we're not doing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you say it now because you're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when it gets to that time, we'll just make it

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<v Speaker 1>clear it's not happening. But it doesn't make sense to

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<v Speaker 1>fight a year in advance. I've learned that lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true. You have to pick your battles, you know. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole Tesla conversation I've managed to put off for

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<v Speaker 2>about five years now. Unfortunately it hasn't died though, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have to approach the battle line eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to square off.

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<v Speaker 1>No, There's been so many things that I've learned that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>because like Superman will go hard for something and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, I'm like, absolutely not. And then I realized, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, this is kind of like a temporary thing,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can battle it out, only to find out

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<v Speaker 1>later he you know, it's not even that serious. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned to be like, well, is the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying we should do or have or by is

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<v Speaker 1>it something that we're actually going to get right now,

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<v Speaker 1>like within like a week or so or a month

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<v Speaker 1>or so. No, if it's a year from now, six

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<v Speaker 1>months from now, I'm like, one, it could fall off,

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<v Speaker 1>he might not be as interested, and two, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something could have happened where it's just not something that

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<v Speaker 1>he's focused on. Because I used to battle over everything

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<v Speaker 1>and I would always win, and then he'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>mad about that, the fact that I was always winning,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, girl, you didn't even have to battle.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't even want it six months later, So I

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<v Speaker 1>really learned to be like I would say something like

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<v Speaker 1>huh okay, like not like a committing okay, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about it, but really now it's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm learning from all my I know, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the men are like what the three men that listen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, whatever, because here's the thing. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>not anything like, you know, like she's wanting to paint

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<v Speaker 1>a wall or something like that. Sometimes it'll be things

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<v Speaker 1>that are doesn't make sense for our family. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna get a third car. There's two adults here.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a car. You have a car just because

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<v Speaker 1>it snows in Jersey a few months out of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting a jeep. Like I don't even leave

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<v Speaker 1>the house hardly, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only on the second car argument right now, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, there's just it's always something else. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>if you say yes to one thing, it's like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well now it's this like there's a home right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it's about like let's build a deck in

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<v Speaker 2>the backyard, and like there's always something else. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>like what I have tried to do is give him easy,

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<v Speaker 2>like give me like take an l every once in

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<v Speaker 2>a while that maybe it hurts my pride because I

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<v Speaker 2>like to win, but he he keeps score. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was just like the worst thing you can do right

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<v Speaker 2>in marriage. But yeay, we're breaking all the rules. He's

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<v Speaker 2>like you always, you know, you're whatever you say always

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<v Speaker 2>goes and dah da da da dah. And I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>boo hoo, fine, why don't you choose where we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to dinner tonight? Even though I think I choose better nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm learning, Like because my friend Rihanna has been married,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think she's been with her husband. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say like fifteen, no, no, maybe like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years altogether, but married. I think like fifteen of the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. And I really watched how she navigates. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good girl. She's our girl. We ain't been married

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<v Speaker 1>this long happily with us. She's like, I learned to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you know what, let him have that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not even that serious, like because she's also most women

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<v Speaker 1>like to win, and she's like, but I've learned that, Like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that serious. Because she was like, because when

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<v Speaker 1>you have to really battle for something, you're gonna want it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, if it's like, you know, like we

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<v Speaker 1>really don't need extra Jordan's, but go ahead, or we

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, I don't want to have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pizza for dinner tonight, but what is like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>not worth it. Like for the house, it was really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult because you know, I was like, how are we

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<v Speaker 1>going to do this? Because I cannot battle you every day.

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<v Speaker 1>So we came to a nice compromise where he could

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever he wanted in his man cave, and he

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<v Speaker 1>got even to expand his man cave and that it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just like one room. It was true, we have

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<v Speaker 1>an open space room in the basement and then a

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<v Speaker 1>room that's like you know, behind a closed doors, so

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<v Speaker 1>he got the whole basement. It actually looks great. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to like get his like metallic swirly floor,

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<v Speaker 1>which were not cheap. He was able to paint whatever

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<v Speaker 1>color he wanted. So the rule was I had no

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<v Speaker 1>say in the basement, but then I got to do

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the house. So it was when I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, that was the best rule we ever made,

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<v Speaker 1>because whenever he came up it was like, we should

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<v Speaker 1>do magenta. I'd be like, so, just referring back to

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<v Speaker 1>our rule, I got the rest of the house, you

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<v Speaker 1>get the basement.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's always annoying when they care about things that

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't think they would care about. I'm like, oh, did.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to say in this like it's some of

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<v Speaker 1>men like really like the fancies himself an interior designer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, sir, we lived in your colorful Matchla path

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<v Speaker 1>for five years. We're not doing that. Like literally we

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<v Speaker 1>had a green a green laundry room, and an orange kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>a magenta living room. I mean it was rainbow city

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<v Speaker 1>up in that house. And I was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing that here. I want an adult space. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>space was an adult, but it was very clearly his

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<v Speaker 1>like bachelor pattern. He thought he was doing something with

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<v Speaker 1>all these colors, and I'm like, whatever, we're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>that here, so but now he loves it now. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't get it before, but I love

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<v Speaker 1>it now. It's very adult and understated, but but elegant.

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<v Speaker 1>So see at the end, when I win, we all win.

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<v Speaker 2>Is what I think. But it's hard to convince an

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<v Speaker 2>independent man of that. I'm like, oh, I got the

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<v Speaker 2>one that pushes back. It's annoying. My mom's so annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>She's always like I like the way and riy Kue

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<v Speaker 2>talks back. I'm like, shut up, whose side are you on?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Man?

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<v Speaker 2>So Thanksgiving you are you're getting you said you're getting things,

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<v Speaker 2>geting catered right, yes, but you're hosting at your house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for the first time. I'm excited. So it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>Superman's family and my family, so we're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>good old traditional Thanksgiving. I'm excited because Vondam, who did

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<v Speaker 1>my birthday party and our wedding reception, is catering. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that she'll be there like passing out food, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just go pick it up. But yeah, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>because but her Drell's family, they're gonna bring food on

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<v Speaker 1>my side of the family as well. But so everybody

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<v Speaker 1>will bring food, but I think like the base food,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, the macaroni and cheese, collar greens, candy,

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<v Speaker 1>dam it's a turkey, Like we're gonna just have bodo

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<v Speaker 1>making because I'm like, well, I'm not gonna do is

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<v Speaker 1>stress about making my first Thanksgiving when I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>like like someone like I can cook. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>think like that, ain't ever cooks Like I just made

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<v Speaker 1>dinner chili, white rice, saltate spinach. I mean, I can cook,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not your throwdown in the kitchen like you

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<v Speaker 1>know some women like get down, get down. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get down, get down. I just here's your food. It

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<v Speaker 1>does taste good, but I'm not getting fancy. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not making Thanksgiving for the first time, not that

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<v Speaker 1>I never will, but not this time around, not with

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<v Speaker 1>his cook and throw down family coming because they cook

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<v Speaker 1>fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, it's like there's there's pressure. Everyone's got their expectations

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<v Speaker 2>of Thanksgiving, especially when you're like blending families the way

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<v Speaker 2>that they've always done it, and you know, like it's

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<v Speaker 2>I get a little especially because my family, my husband's family,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have traditional Thanksgiving in their family like we did.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I did growing up, and it's just, yeah, it's easier. Like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to his cousin's place, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think we're just gonna like they're gonna get it catered

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<v Speaker 2>from some you know, like I don't know some like

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<v Speaker 2>what do you know, stew Lennards. Apparently people are obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with stew Lennards. It's like up there with Wegmans, which

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<v Speaker 2>people are also weirdly obsessed with. People are so weird

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<v Speaker 2>about grocery stores. But whatever. Yeah, so they do a

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<v Speaker 2>whole Thanksgiving dinner and I just agreed with the hostess.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, let's just get this thing catered. No

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<v Speaker 2>one has to cook. I'm certainly not trying to cook,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, the pressure's off and everyone can

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<v Speaker 2>just enjoy and then if it's not great, you can

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<v Speaker 2>blame it on whoever made it, not you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>your family exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, Vonma cooks really well. I mean obviously that's

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<v Speaker 1>why she's catering, so it's gonna be delicious. I just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hope that there's enough, because both my family

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<v Speaker 1>and his family are very much to go packers, so

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<v Speaker 1>so much so that in their their group chat. He

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<v Speaker 1>had to do like a gentle reminder that the goal

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<v Speaker 1>packing plates will not be put out until the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the evening. People will pack and I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>lie I've done this. People will pack it to goal plate,

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<v Speaker 1>put it up and hide it and then go get

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<v Speaker 1>their regular plate. He wasn't gonna save that night. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>let me type it for you, because what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say is not going to be very nice. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you don't know some of my family members.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I know because I'm one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not here to be judging.

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<v Speaker 2>You pack it to go plate and hide it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>so funny, yes, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they by regular plate like that. By the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the night, some of the good food's gonna be gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said, well, day, I guess I have to

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<v Speaker 1>be a good I have to be a good hostess

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<v Speaker 1>and not do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a real scarcity mindset to bring to the dinner

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<v Speaker 2>table at Thanksgiving. I have survived in colonial times.

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<v Speaker 1>You put my food up, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, it's terrible. You know, many times when

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm at someone's house and I've done those Shenanigans

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking for a hiding place for my food,

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<v Speaker 1>only to see other people's food hidden. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so we all get down like this. You're open like

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<v Speaker 1>a cabinet and there's three places in there already.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, food, that's funny. Now, that's how it is

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<v Speaker 2>with my dad cooks. It's like, come on, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>the way it is. It's tradition, definitely, when you go

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<v Speaker 2>to a party, like it's like the Dominican tradition. There

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<v Speaker 2>are overlaps. There are overlaps between my Dominican family and

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<v Speaker 2>my Atlanta Georgia family. That's all I'm going to say.

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<v Speaker 2>And how they conduct themselves at family gatherings and the

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<v Speaker 2>aluminum foil has to come out. And if people don't

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<v Speaker 2>get to take a plate home, then did they really

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<v Speaker 2>have a good time? Yes, you get judged.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little nervous about that. I'm like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know because I told Vonna to cook for forty, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're legitimately going to have forty people.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, is that going to be enough? Because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's not a good Thanksgiving if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get a good size to go, plate to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so let's you're not like dead from being

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<v Speaker 2>so full, like yeah, way of hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>Well hungry, and you have to go with to go play,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like it's mandatory. But I think that with

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<v Speaker 1>like his side of the family and my side of

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<v Speaker 1>the family also bringing additional food, we should be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's definitely something that I'm nervous about, Like is

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<v Speaker 1>it gonna be a nuh well.

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<v Speaker 2>What else has gone besides the holidays? You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>tape the real next week?

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<v Speaker 1>I sure am so today, Like you're no travel rule,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's my last it's the only travel

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<v Speaker 1>that I have scheduled for the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I honestly I have not gone anywhere. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the last place I went was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a month or so ago, I went to DC. So

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly have not traveled much this year at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I have travel, it's been super local, like Philly, DC,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, New York, Like I was in New York

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<v Speaker 1>today taping some called an s m C And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one day we should talk on the podcast about like

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<v Speaker 1>ways that folks can make money. I know, influencer is

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<v Speaker 1>like a dirty word, but if done properly, you can

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<v Speaker 1>be an influencer that makes a decent amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>and maintain your integrity because I think there are ways

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<v Speaker 1>that you can make money online that people are not

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<v Speaker 1>hip to. And Lynette cop Fonnie Cock's one of our faiths.

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<v Speaker 1>She's one of my mentors. She hit me to the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would love to hip our audience to the

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<v Speaker 1>game of ways that I make money that you probably

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<v Speaker 1>don't even realize that you know that don't require the

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<v Speaker 1>super heavy lift. So I did one of those ways

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<v Speaker 1>today called the SMT a satellite media tour. You make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money in a short period of time

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go back to your regularly scheduled shenanigains.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I go back to the real and then honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>these days not gonna lie. I just look the opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>that there are coming. I'm just like not as interested

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<v Speaker 1>as I used to be. I'm just tired. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it could be the IVF medicine, because they have a

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<v Speaker 1>new medicine and I think it's like wearing me out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired. I feel like I'm sleeping all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen to your body.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hm, that's what That's what someone told me today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm sired.

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<v Speaker 2>I sound like my mom. I'm like, fine, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My body. You what's what's new with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? That's all just prepping, just propping, getting out, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to stay active, trying to tend like nothing at all

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<v Speaker 2>is happening. Even though I'm walking around. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I have like a ticking time bombs strapped to my

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<v Speaker 2>chest and like at any moment it's going to go off.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know when. That's pretty much how it feels.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That's crazy. When you really think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, any day, that's crazy. Even though you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm prepared, I've done this, I've done that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>never thought about like what that must feel like. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're here now, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very I mean, you have to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor a lot and they like, you know, you get

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<v Speaker 2>examined a lot, which is very uncomfortable, and they yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, I have prepared a lot, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>still the sense you haven't done enough and that you're

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<v Speaker 2>not ready and I don't know how to I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's just normal. Like I'm just you know, anyone in

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<v Speaker 2>this position, you just feel a little bit anxious and

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<v Speaker 2>and then you I will say, my friends and family

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<v Speaker 2>have done a really good job maintaining their own like

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<v Speaker 2>managing their own anxiousness and their excitement, and not like

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<v Speaker 2>putting that all on me, because that would just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stress me out. I got my own feelings to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, yeah, no, I'm just I'm just hanging in there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice that the holidays are coming up. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to it, you know. But we'll see you doing

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks, man, Dick, Dick.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, don't do your baby dirty for Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>right because my sister, poor, my sister Carol, her birthday

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<v Speaker 1>is the twenty first of December, so when she was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>they ustill rolled it all together like your birthday Christmas present.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, yeah, no, that's not how that works.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think I can get away with that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's too early enough that there's enough distance. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>got more than two weeks, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but her birthday is just a few days before,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember that happening and looking at her like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>they did your dirty girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually that's why her name is Carol. Are my

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<v Speaker 1>parents corny Christmas Carol?

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<v Speaker 2>That's cute. Actually, don't even get me started on the

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<v Speaker 2>name I the Lord have Mercy. We don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>name picked out yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oof.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, change is subject. Shall we do some questions?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? We should do some question Someone actually hit me

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<v Speaker 1>in the They were like, love the podcast, have a question,

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<v Speaker 1>but of course I can't find it. But if I

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<v Speaker 1>find it, I would love to read her question because

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<v Speaker 1>I know she would be geek if I read it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love when people hit me on on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>or Twitter or Instagram and we read their question and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, you read my question.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's always we do read them. We don't always

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<v Speaker 2>send you messages to let you know, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot happens, but we do do read them. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>take one from the gram. This one comes from a

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<v Speaker 2>listener who wants to remain anonymous, but has a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a predicament about helping her mother out. Good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, I'm in a bit of a panic. My

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<v Speaker 2>mother and I are immigrants. She came here to allow

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<v Speaker 2>me to go to school, thus she gave up all

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<v Speaker 2>her positions back home. I'm about to graduate next August. However,

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<v Speaker 2>my mother was recently fired from her job because they

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<v Speaker 2>said she wasn't learning at the pace they wanted. She's

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<v Speaker 2>fifty seven years old and terrified she can't get a

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<v Speaker 2>job because of her age. She put most of her

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<v Speaker 2>money into my education, and she barely has any savings

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<v Speaker 2>Right now. With my job, I'm working from four to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven PM because I'm not fully certified. My pay is

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<v Speaker 2>barely minimum wage. I've got one more semester to graduate,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm wondering if i should just drop out and

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<v Speaker 2>help her out. She's an accountant with at least ten

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<v Speaker 2>years of experience. We're both a little terrified and not

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<v Speaker 2>sure what to do next. Ah, my heart breaks for them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really difficult. I mean, take out the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>her mother's not from this country originally, although she has

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<v Speaker 2>ten years of experience in the States. Working to be

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<v Speaker 2>fired or let go in your late fifties, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a vulnerable place to be, no matter how much we

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<v Speaker 2>want to think that there are tons of opportunities. Agism

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<v Speaker 2>in the workplace. Is it real? It's so so real.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether it's intentional or unintentional. People do discriminate against people

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<v Speaker 2>at that age. So it's a it's tricky, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>very tricky. But I feel like sacrificing your own career

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<v Speaker 2>prospects may not be the And I'm also wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>she were to drop out of school, what could she

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<v Speaker 2>do to help, like get you know, for herself, like

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<v Speaker 2>drop out and get a job maybe is higher paying,

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<v Speaker 2>but then she puts her own career in hold. And

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine her mom would want her to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't because she didn't sacrifice for that quite honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm wondering. I mean, if they're if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>the US, I mean, with ten years of experience, she

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<v Speaker 2>should qualify for unemployment benefits, right. I know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not I know it's not permanent. I know it's not

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<v Speaker 2>obviously doesn't come with you know, health benefits that are

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<v Speaker 2>super affordable. It may not be what she was making before,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's something to make ends meet in the meantime.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she say if her mother's a citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't say if she's a citizen or not, just

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<v Speaker 2>that she has ten years of experience here I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>guess she has some sort of residency, permanent residency or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that if she's able to work.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know this might seem like, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how super savvy your mother is with like

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<v Speaker 1>online things, but the truth of the matter is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the number one things that people ask me for,

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<v Speaker 1>like my entrepreneur friends, is for an accountant. I'm wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how maybe your time would be best spent,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like going to school finishing, but seeing if

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<v Speaker 1>you can find folks that are looking for an accountant,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's honestly the number one thing. Like I told you, Carlos,

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<v Speaker 1>my accountant told me that I'm no longer allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>say his name out loud, even though I just said it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have said so many people to him that

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<v Speaker 1>he is inundated. He can't take on any new clients,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who it is. I mean, there are people

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities that have reached out to me and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>please connect me to Carlos, And Carlos was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if it's Oprah herself, well maybe Oprah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know that he can't take on a new

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<v Speaker 1>folks so what that lets me know is that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who is an accountant that there is money out there

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<v Speaker 1>and folks are looking for an accountant. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that could give you a little hope

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<v Speaker 1>or like how you would connect. There's a group on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook called It's by Arsha Jones. It's called like build It,

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<v Speaker 1>brand It, launch It something like that. Build brand launched

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<v Speaker 1>by Arsha Jones, Rsha A r Sha and in it

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<v Speaker 1>are so many new and established entrepreneurs and folks are

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<v Speaker 1>looking for an accountant. So that's potential. Like just recently,

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<v Speaker 1>quite honestly, I was looking not for an accountant to

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<v Speaker 1>replace Carlos, but I was looking for someone like because

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos is my big accountant that I meet with quarterly.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for someone on a day to day

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<v Speaker 1>basis that would be able to help with that. So

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<v Speaker 1>people are looking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, if she's good and you could maybe

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<v Speaker 2>coach a little bit on establishing herself on the web,

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<v Speaker 2>you're that's a really good tip. Just reaching out to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe start locally, even if you guys go to church,

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<v Speaker 2>or if there's like an online if there's a there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many local Facebook groups now, you know, I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>this group called moms of the city I live in,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're constantly looking for do you guys have an

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<v Speaker 2>accountant you love and everyone shares their account Do you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have a pediatrician? Everyone shares? Do you know where

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<v Speaker 2>to do this? I'm looking to get furniture refinished, like

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<v Speaker 2>a million different things. So if you were to join

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<v Speaker 2>one of those groups and even just like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on your mom's behalfs and a message, see if people

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<v Speaker 2>are looking for a part time accountant or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>someone to just assist them with their bookkeeping. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>imagine there's a lot of small business owners, entrepreneurs, independent

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<v Speaker 2>contractors who could use help. It's the end of year too,

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<v Speaker 2>so I feel like people are getting their shit together

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<v Speaker 2>for tax season. So you know, it may be an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>It just may It just may be, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more legwork than going to job boards. I

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<v Speaker 2>think being a little bit creative might be the answer exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really what I think, and especially like quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>she's got a career that isn't high demand because there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many new entrepreneurs. So even if it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like straight out accounting work bookkeeping work. I mean, people

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<v Speaker 1>are still are starting to understand the value of really

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<v Speaker 1>having some sort of financial person on their team.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, help her figure out maybe what a good

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<v Speaker 2>hourly rate is and to be. And the sad thing

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<v Speaker 2>is that if you're doing it online, you're not seeing

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<v Speaker 2>people in person. There's not a chance that your physical

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<v Speaker 2>like physically like your image as an older woman, which

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<v Speaker 2>it's sadly enough, could diminish your chances of getting like

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<v Speaker 2>a second interview. Like online, there's a bit more, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, a greater chance for anonymity at least, and

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<v Speaker 2>let your credentials speak for themselves first and foremost. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as far as like trying to fight against

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<v Speaker 2>ageism in the workplace, I'd love to hear from listeners

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<v Speaker 2>if you feel like you've encountered or that, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you have any tips there, because it's something I think

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<v Speaker 2>about a lot even when I hire, like how to

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<v Speaker 2>not let my own internal bias get in the way

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, candidates, you have a ton of experience

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<v Speaker 2>because you can tell yourself like, oh, they're so senior,

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<v Speaker 2>will they be happy in this role? You know they're

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<v Speaker 2>so they have so much experience, can we afford them,

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<v Speaker 2>and you may start questioning before you even get them

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<v Speaker 2>in the door in the first place, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's genuinely not fair to people. Or you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not thinking this, but you may be thinking, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're close to retirement, how long will they want to

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<v Speaker 2>work for? Well, people are working into their seventies now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, eighties in some cases. Bernie Anders hello, and

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<v Speaker 2>half the presidential candidates. But it seems like anyway, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting, and I mean, I wish you guys all

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<v Speaker 2>the best, But ultimately, I don't think either of us

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<v Speaker 2>thinks you putting your own education and career on hold

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<v Speaker 2>when you're so close graduating.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not I don't think that that's the because she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sacrifice for that, honestly, you know, yeah so and

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<v Speaker 1>plus two, in the long run, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to help her even more, you know, bye by

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<v Speaker 1>doing what you're doing, which is finishing school.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Anonymous, Well, thank you very much for your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. Oh, here's a quick one. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>listener who wants to know Tiffany mentioned something about her

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<v Speaker 2>free saving challenge. Where can I sign up or get

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<v Speaker 2>that information.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you can go to l RC. That's the Live

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<v Speaker 1>Riture Challenge Save dot com. So l r C save

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. But if you're someone who's like, honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>have five live ritual challenges, I've done a series savings, credit, networth,

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<v Speaker 1>home buying fundamentals, I think that's it. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>are just looking for any of the challenges, take one

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<v Speaker 1>at a time, do not sign up for all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're gonna get multiple emails all day and then

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be cussing me out. You can go to

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<v Speaker 1>Live Richer Challenge dot com. That's for all of them

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<v Speaker 1>or how so you can kind of pick the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's best for you. But directly to the Savings challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>it's lrcsave dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Fabulous And when does it kick off? In January?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we haven't really started. I mean, like the truth is,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, lokey. They're automated, so you can start now

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to. But if you're wanting to do

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<v Speaker 1>it collectively with like thousands of thousands of women because

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<v Speaker 1>we support each other, then I'm gonna be doing like

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<v Speaker 1>a big push at the end of December to get

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<v Speaker 1>everyone signed up. So we can do. We could start

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<v Speaker 1>the first Monday in January together, because literally every single

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<v Speaker 1>day I'm there with you, holding your hand, making sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're good, because sometimes you need, especially in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, some of that extra handholding. So so

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<v Speaker 1>you can start it now, but if you'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>do it with a with a group, then you can

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<v Speaker 1>wait until the end of the year when I post

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<v Speaker 1>and share it and I'll share it on brown Ambition

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<v Speaker 1>when we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It perfect though it's not nat season without a Tiffany

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<v Speaker 2>Liverature Challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I almost didn't do it. Honestly, what I've learned,

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<v Speaker 1>Like today I'm like, I feel like everything is falling apart.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I was like, oh, that's right. I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>that when things get hard, then that is a clear

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<v Speaker 1>indication that I am leveling up. It's been like a

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<v Speaker 1>little while i've been like at the level I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>doing it like the arm the armspring, love never love,

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<v Speaker 1>although I cannot dance very well. But so today I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking to myself, Wow, everything we're doing is like

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<v Speaker 1>not doing I'm so used to like things going fairly smoothly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, why are there so many things

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<v Speaker 1>that are not going so smooth, you know, and all

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the things I'm working on, not personally that's going great,

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<v Speaker 1>but professionally. And then I was like, oh, I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>that whenever I am like, whenever I've kind of maximized

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<v Speaker 1>all that I can do at this level, then it

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<v Speaker 1>gets rough because it means that I've outgrown the tools

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<v Speaker 1>and resources that this level can find useful. It took

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<v Speaker 1>me a minute to remember that, like, Oh, these tools

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<v Speaker 1>and resources, it's not that you're doing anything wrong, they

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<v Speaker 1>just don't work. It's like it's almost like you know, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're thirteen and you're not wearing an eight and a

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<v Speaker 1>half shoe anymore. Is nothing wrong. It's just that you

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<v Speaker 1>wear a nine shoe and until you get those size nines,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to feel uncomfortable. And so that's what's been happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And today I realized that I addressed it with I

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<v Speaker 1>had a marketing team call and it kind of had

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<v Speaker 1>like the aha moment, like, oh, we have to navigate

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<v Speaker 1>differently because the way we're navigating now is not working

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 1>because we are we have outgrown those old ways. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's just kind of a message to anyone who is like,

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<v Speaker 1>why is anything going wrong? It's a mercury in retrograde.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps I think it is, But it also might mean

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<v Speaker 1>that you've outgrown your current tools and resources and it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to level up and time to adopt new ways

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<v Speaker 1>to attack new challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to remember the theme song for Growing

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<v Speaker 2>Pains because I was going to be clever and sing it,

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<v Speaker 2>but then I just like brain farted.

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<v Speaker 1>What is called page the song?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>The best is waiting to be But say with the

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<v Speaker 2>nineties theme songs, they all end up sounding like each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'll start singing the step by step one end

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<v Speaker 2>up singing family matters, and then I'm like into full

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<v Speaker 2>house somehow they all like they all have the same

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<v Speaker 2>common thread. All right, cool, all right, let's take one more.

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<v Speaker 2>Since that was a quick question, Let's call this listener

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<v Speaker 2>who wants to remain an indomis do you brain fart? Ashley? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley says, And this might be a good question for you, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>since a little Bertie told me that you launched a

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<v Speaker 2>business from scratch, She says, I'm a freelancer currently making

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<v Speaker 2>about forty dollars an hour. My only expenses are living

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<v Speaker 2>at home, paying two fifty in rent, and buying groceries.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm currently bootstrapping my online boutique business. I quit

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<v Speaker 2>my job in Corporate America, so I know how so

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<v Speaker 2>I could do this business. Now. I have about thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars in student loans and about seventeen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in credit card debt. The business is taking up the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of my leftover money after rent and groceries. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you guys have any advice on what I can do

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<v Speaker 2>to begin saving more? Thanks in advance. So she's wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to bootstrap her business starting from scratch, quit her job

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<v Speaker 2>has low expenses, which is good, yes, only making forty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars an hour as a freelancer though, and feeling like

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to build her business and save at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes those things actually are like oil and water. H Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're starting a business, sometimes you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with the fact that, yeah, Safians is not

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna happen right now, and I have to be

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<v Speaker 1>okay with that. Uh. I did not save for the

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<v Speaker 1>first four or five years of business. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be like, okay, head above water, ahead, above water,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna drown. I'm not gonna let you drown.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what it's like. That's why entrepreneurship is difficult

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<v Speaker 1>because like traditionally, you know, you work at a job,

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<v Speaker 1>you make money, you know that you're gonna save, you're

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<v Speaker 1>smart about it. But with entrepreneurship you kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>to suspend what would normally be responsible behavior. In that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, so took this money out of

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<v Speaker 1>my retirement account. Not a good idea, but I did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm not saving right now, and I'm paying

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<v Speaker 1>the minimum to everything and deferring on my student loans.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the best idea when it comes to traditional personal finance,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did it. It doesn't always work out, That's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's not always a good idea. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>saving just even a little bit now, you are way

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of the game because most folks in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>are not saving anything because truthfully, there you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of their business. So I would say, be

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<v Speaker 1>okay with not saving as much. Make sure, like right now,

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<v Speaker 1>keep your expenses as low as possible. You're like in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning stage normally, I don't believe in over sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 1>There's those such thing as over sacrificed in the beginning stages,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're not going on vacation, sis, guess what YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>could teach you how to do your nails. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like in the beginning, until you can get

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<v Speaker 1>stable income coming in and you get to a space

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<v Speaker 1>where you're like, Okay, I'm making enough to cover more

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<v Speaker 1>than just basic life and I'm able to save a little,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can rejoin the land of the living.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the beginning, starting an entrepreneur, starting a business

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<v Speaker 1>is really you're living alone amongst the dad. We're walking

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<v Speaker 1>around here like zombies, just trying to make things work.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's here's what's going to help you with this

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>feeling of not saving enough. You need to have other

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneur friends. Because when I tell you, when I spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to my regular nine to five friends and I would

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<v Speaker 1>share like, yeah, so Verizona ain't getting at this. Once,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be like clutching up parlativity. Well, when I spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to my entrepreneur friends, they're like either, okay. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I learned is that having entrepreneur friends helped to normalize

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<v Speaker 1>the craziness of entrepreneurship, and so I felt less crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, you're late as well. Okay, Oh you're

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<v Speaker 1>not saving okay. Oh you moved to a room, so

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<v Speaker 1>did I. Oh you haven't driven your car because who

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<v Speaker 1>has gas money? So you have to reset your expectation

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<v Speaker 1>of what life is going to look like in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning stages of your entrepreneurship journey. And it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>help to have other friends who are also going through

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurship because it will normalize what normally would not be normal.

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<v Speaker 2>All I would add to that is, so she already

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<v Speaker 2>is doing so many right things. She's living at home,

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<v Speaker 2>her expenses are super low, two fifteen rent, buying groceries,

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<v Speaker 2>And when you think about the advice around how much

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<v Speaker 2>to save for an emergency, you know, if you're living

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<v Speaker 2>at home, you're you're risk is so much lower. You know,

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>you don't have a full time job, right you're living

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 2>at home already. It's not like if you were to

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 2>lose your job you would have doesn't sound like you

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>have kids or a family relying on you. So the

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>need for you to have this stockpile of cash for

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 2>an emergency isn't quite as great right now, and you've

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 2>given yourself the room that you need to start building

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 2>your business. And even though you have thirty thousand dollars

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 2>in student loans and what's seventeen hundred dollars in credit

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:27.359
<v Speaker 2>card debt? I would focus on paying that off as

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 2>soon as you can, first and foremost, and look at

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 2>that as a as a you know, form of saving

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 2>if you can. And then look at the way that

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 2>you're living as a form of saving too, like what

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 2>could you be spending if you didn't live at home?

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 2>So you are saving, You're just choosing to put your

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>savings into your business. It sounds like which when you're

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 2>young and just getting your start, that's acceptable. So I

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>agree with TIF. Take the pressure off to have some

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>big stockpile of cash and focus on what can you

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 2>do to invest in your business to grow it so

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 2>that you can fulfill you know, your ultimate goal, which

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 2>is to be an independent business owner.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And I will the one thing I will say is

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>that I it took me a while to understand this,

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't put all my emphasis on getting debt free,

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, And it took me, who is like super

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>debt adverse to understand that that. I instead was like, okay,

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I can put all because that's what I had. Student

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>loan debt fifty thousand dollars and then I had credit

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>card debt thirty five thousand dollars, and the first stages

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>of when I started my business, I was adamant, like,

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I put all my extra funds and time and energy

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that I was making toward getting rid of this debt.

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>So I paid off the credit card debt in like

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>two and a half years. I was like, yes, and

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>guess what, my business was doing nothing because I was

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>putting all that money into the credit card debt. And

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>not that I shouldn't have paid it, but knowing what

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I know now, I should have been more moderate with

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>my paydown plan and instead invested that money back into

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>my business. Because then I said, Okay, I'm going to

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>put all that same energy into paying off my student

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 1>loan debt. And I started and I'm like, okay, you

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>have three in your business and you're not making any money. Like,

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe let's rethink this instead. What if I put the

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>same energy and funds into the business. And I started

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to do so, and within the next three years, the

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>business had made me enough that I had the fifty

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars as a lump sum payment to make to

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>the student loan debt. That's what I said about like

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>business operation when it comes to your money is different

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>than what I would normally suggest a regular person working

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 1>at a regular job, Like normally i'd say go attack

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>that debt. But as an entrepreneur, I'm saying, have a

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 1>debt paid down plan that's basically moderate, and you kind

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>of set it and forget it, and then put your

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:48.959
<v Speaker 1>energy and money and funds into growing your business, because

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>if you do so, you can potentially make the money

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>to take care of that debt. Because I was I

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>was credit card debt free, but I was still broke.

0:36:58.160 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 1>And by the time I paid off my student loan

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:01.400
<v Speaker 1>debt that I was a student loan debt free, but

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>now I had money because I focused on the business.

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:06.839
<v Speaker 1>So but that was a hard lesson for me to learn.

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.280
<v Speaker 1>It took like three or four years of brokeness to realize,

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Like timply, you have to refocus your effort. If you're

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 1>living home and you're making this sacrifice, make the full

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice like you should be beasting. Like the first year

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I was lazy with it. I was like, ooh, I

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 1>get to nab. I'm an entrepreneur, not being you know,

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>like you should be beasting normally. I'm all for harmony

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and balance. Not in the beginning. You should be putting

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the like the best that you have into it to

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>see is this something that could really work? Because the

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>seed you plant now, this is the fruit that you're

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>going to eat later. I have a whole orchard worth

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of fruit, and I look, it's not because I'm a

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 1>super beast right now, but it's because I was a

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>super beast in the beginning. So I'm picking all that

0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>fruit now. So put in as much effort as you

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>can see if this thing.

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Can work, well said, and I'll just shut up because

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 2>how can you follow that. I'm just trying to, you know,

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 2>give you, give you the space that you need to shine.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 2>That's all that's all I do.

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes, No, I honestly I feel like we have like

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 1>an entpreneurshell because I like it's such a I mean,

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>it's such a topic that depending what day you catch me,

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, don't get I was telling my sister the

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 1>other day, like right for the hills, don't do it

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it's terrible over here, and the other days I'm like,

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>what's cute here? I like it.

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 2>So it's the same on the other side. To believe me,

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 2>it's the same.

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>On the other side, I have like insurance and security.

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, get out of here, everybody. The grass is always greener.

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is true, because I was like, I miss

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>having like a regular money come in and I have

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to worry about thirty people and how they gonna get

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 1>paid and what the government said, and oh I forgot

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>to send that letter in and now I owe three

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars instead of three hundred, and I'm like, oh

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>my god. Sometimes it's so much, and the other days

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, eh, okay, look at me out here doing it.

0:38:56.719 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Like honestly, it's a roller coaster relationship. I feel like

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just in a I'm in a crazy relationship with entrepreneurship.

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I think it's going pretty well from my perspective for

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 2>you anyway, all right, guys. Well, as a reminder, you

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>can hit us up on Instagram at Brandonbisson Podcast with

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>your questions or you can email us at Brandonbisson Podcast

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 2>at gmail dot com. Booster break ah.

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 1>We gotta boost ah we gotta break. You've fend the booty,

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>fend a break.

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do a boost this week because I don't

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 2>know how these companies make money. But if you're I

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 2>love sending holiday cards, but I hate like the work.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.399
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a lot of work to get send

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 2>out holiday cards, et cetera. And this is not a

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>promotion for any one particular company, how you know, But

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:05.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to name a company. They're not a sponsor

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.799
<v Speaker 2>anything like that. But every year I just go to

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 2>like either Shutterfly or Snapfish. I don't know how they

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 2>make money. They always have like eighty percent off promo

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 2>codes and I managed to get like all you do

0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.040
<v Speaker 2>is slap a picture they put like a holiday greeting

0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>on it. You can like upload your address list and

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 2>get envelope with addresses printed on them. And it's so

0:40:25.640 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 2>cheap to get like cards made. And it makes me

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 2>feel like a real adult when I can send out

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 2>holiday cards. And so shout out to those services and

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 2>their promo codes, and I hope they don't go out

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 2>of business ever.

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Ever, ever, so I have never said howdy cards. I'm like, oh,

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that'd be so cute. Week, So what's the company's Shutterfly.

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 2>There's there's a bunch out there, so I usually I

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 2>toggle between snapfish or Shutterfly. I just got like a

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 2>bunch of thank you notes made for my baby shower

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 2>on Snapfish. And of course I did it like three

0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 2>in the morning when I woke up, and it took

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>me no time, and I think I got sixty percent off,

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 2>and then I was able to get I got a

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 2>whole I got a whole book, like a photo book

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 2>made like a professional photography book, like where they take

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 2>your photos and blow them up and it's beautiful. And

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I got that made for like forty bucks and it

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 2>has something like eighty pages. I don't know. There's just

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that.

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>But all you have to do is Google.

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 2>If you're going to these sites, don't spend full price.

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 2>There's just no excuse. They'll even have the promo code,

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 2>like if you go to their they have like a

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.280
<v Speaker 2>discount page or or have it like at the bottom

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>of the page or even at the top banner, you know,

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 2>promoting it. Don't ask me how they make money, but

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess the margin's really good on these products, but

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 2>it's really and then you'll get it within a week.

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it always comes super fast. So don't

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 2>do it old school and go to Papyrus and overspend

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 2>on because I used to do that all the time.

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Go to Papyrus and like spend a ridiculous amount of

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 2>money on you know, the physical cards because they can

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 2>just do it for you. It's it's fabulous.

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that does sound fabulous.

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>What about you?

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I am going to hmm, you know, I want to boost.

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 1>This is how they see, so let's be positive. I'm

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:08.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna boost making connections. So one of my sisters is

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>like really like into self improvement right now. She took

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>one of those have you ever heard of like momentum.

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like one of uh, there's another one

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 1>that's a popular landmark. Have you ever heard a landmark?

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 2>It's like landmark, what.

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.279
<v Speaker 1>It's if that's what it's called. It's like one of these,

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like a self improvement typically it's like a

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 1>weekend and you get to learn more about yourself and

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, like things that you're doing that are that

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>are in alignment with your desired outcome and things that

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 1>are not. And one of like every time she came back,

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>she really enjoyed it. Every time she came back. We

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>talked about some of the things that she learned, and

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:47.879
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that she said that she learned

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>is like, really that relationships are everything, literally everything, and

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes like for me, because sometimes I'm I feel so

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>pulled and overwhelmed that when I get a moment, I

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>won't net with new people. So like, yeah, I hang

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 1>out with my friends and obviously my family, but sometimes

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and someone's like, oh, I'd love to go out to lunch,

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, nah, girl, Like my default is like I'm

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>gad now, let's still found call. And I had the

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do that yesterday. I'm working with this brand

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 1>that I really like and they invited me to dinner,

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and my knee jerk was like, nah, girl, I'm good,

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just gonna come do my thing tomorrow and

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like y'all that's what y'all paying me for.

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>But then this other part of me remembered when I

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>was speaking with my sister and she was like, you know,

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>making the effort to connect with folks just for connecting sake,

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And so at first I said no, and then I

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:38.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what, I will go to dinner

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 1>and it was like such a good time. You know.

0:43:41.880 --> 0:43:44.800
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like I mean, we didn't talk about business.

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:51.240
<v Speaker 1>It was myself, my agent, the brand, and the brand's partner,

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like wow. We talked about everything

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>from motherhood to being a woman in business to being

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.279
<v Speaker 1>a woman of coloring. But like, it's just it was

0:44:00.320 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>just such a good time. And I thought to myself,

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I would have missed out on this because you know,

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Sometimes it could be a lot that's

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 1>going on, but how you alleviate the feeling of a

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>lot that's going on, it's really through interpersonal connections. And

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.280
<v Speaker 1>it was just a good reminder that you know, everything's

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.399
<v Speaker 1>not like a business transaction. Sometimes people are just wanting

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>to connect to connect, and that connecting is really what

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>it's what makes life worth living and that I don't

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>want to jump from transactions to transaction. So just a

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:34.640
<v Speaker 1>boost to you know, interpersonal connecting and making that a

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>priority and you know, saying yes to more in person

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>connections because like I said, people ask all the time

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:42.800
<v Speaker 1>like oh my gosh, I'm gonna be in Jersey. I

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>would love to connect and I'm like nope, They're like

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.280
<v Speaker 1>you don't even know what I'm coming. I'm like nope,

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>because I just sometimes, like I said, I feel so around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like lunch or this bed, this bed, and I'm like, say,

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<v Speaker 1>if any get the house. So if you're needing that

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<v Speaker 1>kick in the butt, this is your sign. If you

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<v Speaker 1>need a sign, get out of the house. Connect with folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is not a transactions. Sometimes it's just connecting for

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<v Speaker 1>connecting sake. And what ended up happening is that the

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<v Speaker 1>brand Liaison loved me so much that I could totally

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<v Speaker 1>tell they're going to use me again and again. And

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the attention it was like but she was like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you are amazing. Yesterday was so great hanging out with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot wait for us to work with you over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again. I was like, what, okay, So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what you're missing out on when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you don't connect with folks.

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<v Speaker 2>And especially because i mean just on a personal note,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's the holidays and people, you know, depression is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of higher during the holidays, and even just checking

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<v Speaker 2>in with like friends and people even have talked to

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<v Speaker 2>you in a while, you don't know what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>impact you can be having just to catch up over

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<v Speaker 2>coffee because some people it's a downtime for some people,

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<v Speaker 2>or a stressful time and check in with loved ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll add to that, but that was a yeah, that's excellent,

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<v Speaker 2>good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank God.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank y'all for another great show. We will see

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<v Speaker 2>y'all next week, one last show, and we'll maybe see

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<v Speaker 2>you the week after. It'll depend on this little sir

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<v Speaker 2>inside of me. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello for me this side have a.

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<v Speaker 2>New boss, how I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like hello for me this sid oh. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to meet you. So I know he's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>So he'd better be. Not a