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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the six DJ. Bucky

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Speaker 2: back with you.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: It looks like you are in Jville. How's everything looking

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Speaker 2: so far with the Jags?

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Speaker 1: Everything is looking great in terms of just look, you

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Speaker 1: I will say offensively, the Jags look pretty good because

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is really settled in and you know it

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Speaker 1: because you see it every week with the Charges. Just

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Speaker 1: the difference of bringing in an elite receiver Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 1: is an elite receiver, and what it does is it

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Speaker 1: changes the dynamics of the offense. Not only does it

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Speaker 1: give Trevor Lawrence like a true number one on the perimeter,

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Speaker 1: but it kind of resets the pecking order of the

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Speaker 1: probably in his more natural position of being in number two,

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Speaker 1: It just looks different when the offense is out there,

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Speaker 1: and with Trevor Lawrence being in his second year under

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. You can just feel a different level of

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Speaker 1: confidence when you watch him and you see him perform,

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Speaker 1: and so I think, ofously, this team is going to

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Speaker 1: be good. It's gonna come down to their defense in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to see what they look like with

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Speaker 2: a quarterback whose confidence is already starting to soar. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I felt like last year was like, man, that was

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Speaker 2: a good frame of mind, let's see some progress. And

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Speaker 2: then he gave you some of those elite moments, obviously

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Speaker 2: the comeback in the playoffs, being at the top of

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Speaker 2: the list, but you saw those glimpses. Now it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: can you get this out of him every week? And

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Speaker 2: I think they needed a little bit more, And I

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good jay, It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good offense. But the funny thing is, because people haven't

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Speaker 1: seen Calvin for two years, you kind of forget how

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Speaker 1: good he is when we talk about I mean, remember

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Speaker 1: we made this pivot on the podcast where we said,

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Speaker 1: you know wide receiver, Yeah, I know about the fast

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Speaker 1: thing and all that. I want to route runners. There's

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Speaker 1: with intricate and creative routes. There are things that a

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Speaker 1: play designer can do to create explosive plays for them.

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley can create and produce explosive plays, not because

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Speaker 1: he overwhelms people with his physical gifts, but because he's

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Speaker 1: so technical in terms of how he creates separation, how

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Speaker 1: he gets open. That'd be a huge difference for the Jags.

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Speaker 1: And because these guys are interchangeable pieces, it'll be fun

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Speaker 1: for Doug Peterson to kind of play games with defensive

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to see what it looks like there.

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Speaker 2: And look, the AFC is stacked. It's going to get

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Speaker 2: us to what we're going to be talking about here

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Speaker 2: in a little bit. On today's show, we're going to

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Speaker 2: we'll start with the most important position, which is the

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Speaker 2: with five quarterbacks. So we'll draft some quarterbacks of what

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Speaker 2: and we'll see if Buck and you at home while

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Speaker 2: this podcast, maybe you're commuting, see if you can guess

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Speaker 2: and I know you do too, uh, the learning opportunities

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Speaker 2: You know what, what can we get into and dive

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Speaker 2: Pass rushers. We always talk about quarterbacks and pass rush

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get first You get first pick because it

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Speaker 1: able to do in Cincinnati is to take a Downtroden franchise.

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Speaker 1: And yes, he's surrounded by the terrific weapons T Higgins,

432
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Speaker 1: Tyler Boy, Jamar Chase, all those things, but Joe Burrow

433
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Speaker 1: is the strawed stirs to drink. His ability to play

434
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Speaker 1: point guard in a fast break offense makes this team dangerous.

435
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Speaker 1: And when he said I actually will win this for

436
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Speaker 1: as long as I play, basically, to me, that is

437
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Speaker 1: everything because when your quarterback and has that level of confidence,

438
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 1: your team feeds off of that. And so Joe Burrow

439
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Speaker 1: to me is right behind Pat Mahomes. I'm gonna take

440
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Speaker 1: him with my number one overall pick because he has

441
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Speaker 1: everything that you look for in the position. Outstanding playmaker, leader,

442
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Speaker 1: and he has that clutch factors that you have to

443
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Speaker 1: have to be elite quarterback. Yeah.

444
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Speaker 2: I mean he's gone toe to toe with Mahomes and

445
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Speaker 2: more than held his own multiple times here, So he's

446
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Speaker 2: got the better of it when you look at the

447
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: career marks there. So I love Joe Burrow, I love

448
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: his game. I think there's another level to it. I

449
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 2: think there's even another level he can take it too,

450
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,920
Speaker 2: and I expect him to get there this year. I'm

451
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Speaker 2: gonna go. I'm gonna go with the home team here.

452
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Herbert with my second pick. And

453
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a couple of reasons why nobody

454
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Speaker 2: ever doubts the skill set of Justin Herbert. You're talking

455
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Speaker 2: about rare size to go along with the arm strength

456
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Speaker 2: of the athleticism, the intelligence, the toughness, like these are

457
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Speaker 2: things that he has that are elite, elite, elite, off

458
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Speaker 2: the charts stuff. But the reason I'm gonna go with

459
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Speaker 2: him in this spot, I mean, there's some other really

460
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Speaker 2: talented guys there, you know, to choose from, because of

461
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 2: what we preach and what we've preached on the Pod

462
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: for years now in terms of quarterbacks taking the next

463
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Speaker 2: step and quarterback development. We looked at the p's, we

464
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 2: looked at your play caller, we look at your playmakers,

465
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Speaker 2: we look at your protection. You can make a case

466
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Speaker 2: that with the changes in all three of those areas

467
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Speaker 2: that Justin Herbert's going to benefit you. Look at Kellen

468
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 2: Moore coming in, I think those guys are going to

469
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 2: mesh very well together with that system. They're almost the

470
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 2: same personality you know from up in the in the Northwest,

471
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: guys that are really productive college quarterbacks. I think they

472
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Speaker 2: have a great relationship. I think you'll see the offense

473
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Speaker 2: open up a little bit more so play caller check.

474
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Speaker 2: You look at playmakers, well, hopefully you get a whole

475
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Speaker 2: healthy season out of Keenan and Mike, and then you

476
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Speaker 2: also get Jalen Geyton back off injury who can really

477
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Speaker 2: stretch the field. You draft Quentin Johnson in the first

478
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Speaker 2: round to throw him into the mix, and you've got

479
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Speaker 2: Austin Eckler on a contract year with incentive laden contract,

480
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: all everything you want with that, so you could say, Okay,

481
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: the playmakers are in better shape. And then finally the

482
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: protection you get all pro left tackle missed almost the

483
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 2: whole season last year, and Shawn Slater's coming back, so

484
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Speaker 2: I think that everything around him is going to be better.

485
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Speaker 2: And I think people forget that the hit that Herbert

486
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Speaker 2: took early in the year, Week two against Kansas City

487
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: with that rib cartilage never got better. He had shoulder

488
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 2: surgery on his left shoulder in the offseason. He was

489
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 2: playing through ribs, he was playing through his shoulder, lost

490
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 2: his left tackled, receivers, were injured, like all that stuff,

491
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Speaker 2: and still played pretty well. I think this could be

492
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Speaker 2: an MVP type season from Justin Herbert, provided everybody stays healthy,

493
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Speaker 2: which I know with the charges is a dangerous thing

494
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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's not a dangerous thing to say

496
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is good enough to warrant it. I mean,

497
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Speaker 1: there's an argument to may that Justin Herbert could be

498
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Speaker 1: in the conversation to be QB one of the National

499
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Speaker 1: Football League if everything goes with if a team matches

500
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Speaker 1: him where he's at, we would have that conversation. He

501
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: is the prototype DJ. When we were scouting for a

502
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: long time, Justin Herbert is how you would draw him up,

503
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Speaker 1: Like if the general manager came he said, what does

504
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: the QB one look like? It looks like Justin Herbert

505
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: is six four sixty five, has big time arm talent,

506
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 1: has athleticism, has high IQ can do things on script offscript.

507
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: Every time you look at Justin Herbert is that he's

508
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Speaker 1: one of the few prospects that I've seen that is

509
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Speaker 1: a much better pro than college player. He is so

510
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: different as a pro player than he was as a collegian.

511
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Speaker 1: That it doesn't make sense. And so when everyone is

512
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Speaker 1: mad like, oh man, how can this guy be fifty

513
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Speaker 1: six overall? Pick well, because you didn't really see all

514
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Speaker 1: of this at Oregon. You might have saw little flashes,

515
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Speaker 1: but not the player that he's become with the charges,

516
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Speaker 1: and so I understand why he goes up there. And

517
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Speaker 1: you're right, if he clicks with Kellen Moore and all

518
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: the weapons they have and if they stay healthy, because

519
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: that's always been the big issue. We're going to have

520
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Speaker 1: a conversation about Justin Herbert being an MVP candidate.

521
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Speaker 2: No, that's where I with him. So we'll see how

522
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: this season goes. All right, you got some interesting names

523
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: left on the board here, plenty of mens.

524
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: Oh oh man, there's so many names. There's so many

525
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: names here, right because you got Jalen Hurts. You have

526
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: so many. But I'm gonna go right now. I'm gonna

527
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: go with Josh Allen. I'm gonna go with Josh Allen

528
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: because I'm still a believer in the Buffalo Bills and

529
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia. I'm still a believer in his talent and

530
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: the unique things that he brings to the table as man,

531
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Speaker 1: let's call it, a supersized duel threat playmaker who can

532
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: win with his arms or his feet. We have seen

533
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: him do Cam Newton like stuff in the running game,

534
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: big physical power runner coming downhill. We've seen him in

535
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Speaker 1: the red zone. There are few that can put the

536
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: ball in the paint like he can't as a runner,

537
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: but are also a few guys that can play like

538
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: he does as a gun slinger. And when you look

539
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: at the connection that he has with Stefan Diggs and

540
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Speaker 1: how he has been able to play for the last

541
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Speaker 1: three years, he has shown I mean, look, he's kind

542
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: of upset the Apple card when it comes to the

543
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Speaker 1: scouting community and what we thought about quarterbacks. We thought

544
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Speaker 1: that quarterbacks couldn't improve their accuracy and ball placement. And

545
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: even though he's kind of come back to the pack

546
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: a little bit when it comes to the accuracy, this

547
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: steal in a one game scenario, it's hard to find

548
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: a better quarterback that you would lean on in Josh Allen.

549
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: This dude is a one man show and if given

550
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: just a little bit of talent on the out side,

551
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: he has proven that he can win games when he's

552
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: surrounded by the all star cast. This team is what

553
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: they are, a team that is look worthy of being

554
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: in consideration as a Super Bowl team, even though they

555
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: haven't got it done. It certainly hasn't been Josh Alvins Faull.

556
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: No, they got to take a little off him. You know,

557
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: he's had to do too much there, especially in the

558
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: run game. Take a little bit off that off his

559
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: plate there. Maybe Dalton and Kaid in some of the

560
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: in intermediate short passing stuff. He'll be able to help

561
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: as well as they mix him in to a very

562
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: very good offense that they have there in Buffalo. I

563
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: like that pick to me the fifth guy, and I'll

564
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Speaker 2: wait for your reaction on this one, but I feel

565
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: like this is clear cut. These are the five best

566
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL. How we have them coming off

567
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Speaker 2: the board. You can rearrange the order, but to me,

568
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Speaker 2: this feels like the five guys. I'm gonna go Jalen

569
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Speaker 2: Hurts here with my next pick, so that gives us

570
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: mahomes Borough Herbert Allen Hurts. Those to me feel like

571
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: the Big five. Yeah, other guys too. As we go

572
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: through here, and you can have the debate with Lamar Jackson.

573
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: We can talk about does Deshaun Watson get back to

574
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: what he was? Obviously Aaron Rodgers a couple MVPs, four

575
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 2: of them actually in his past but a little bit older.

576
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: I think all those guys start factoring in after this.

577
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: But to me, it feels like these are the five guys.

578
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: And Jalen Hurt's coming off an unbelievable season. He's got

579
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: to be right there in the mex again as somebody

580
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 2: you feel like could be an MVP at any moment

581
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: in time. Here. The way he's developed so rapidly.

582
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, he has to be in the list. Dj I

583
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: was debating taking him over Josh Allen, like, that's where

584
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: we're at based on because what we're doing is not

585
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: a lifetime achievement. We're talking about here and now, and

586
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: what good scouts are able to do is, hey man,

587
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: let's separate what someone was and let's talk about what

588
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: he is right now. And there's Jalen Hurst. If he

589
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: doesn't get into maybe he wins the MVP last year.

590
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: What he's been able to do as a runner and

591
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: thrower is nothing short of remarkable. The way that he

592
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: is steadily improved from the time he left Oklahoma until

593
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: the time he took Carson Wentz job and the way

594
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: that he steadily improved under Nick Sirianni. He has to

595
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: be in the conversation. To me, he is the look.

596
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: He's the model of what you wanted the position in

597
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: terms of his demeanor, the leadership ability he conveys, the

598
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: work ethic that they talk about he displays. Yeah, he's everything.

599
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: He's a self made man. When it comes to how

600
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: he has made himself into a top five pick, he's

601
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: worthy of being in that conversation.

602
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: My favorite nugget on him is the dude shows up

603
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: to work with a briefcase eighty five. That's it, man,

604
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: that's it. That's a businessman. This is his job and

605
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: he treats it as such. First one in, last one out,

606
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: every day, not ever going to be outworked, and you

607
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: see it. The results are there for him. So those

608
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: are the top five guys here. You've got your pick

609
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: coming up. Where you're gonna go.

610
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Man, DJ, this is tough, right because the names that

611
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Like now we're a little more into speculation

612
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 1: because it's not exactly proven and clear cut. But I'm

613
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: wanna put Aaron Rodgers right here I'll take him at six,

614
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: and I'll put him at six, and a lot of

615
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: this is really on hope that he'll bounce back and

616
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: be the player that he once was. Look, he dipped

617
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: a little bit last year, and I know people have

618
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: talked about the supporting cast, but he didn't play great.

619
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: And so what I'm banking on is that he has

620
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: something to prove. We've already heard about him being at

621
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: OTA's stuff that he didn't attend in the last few

622
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: years with the Green Bay Packers, So he certainly doesn't

623
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: want to go out like a sucker. So he's going

624
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: to play well for the New York Jets. And so

625
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: this year in particularly, he's gonna do it very much

626
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady. When Tom Brady left to go to Tampa,

627
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: he had a little something to prove. He never said it,

628
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: but you knew it was inside. He wants to prove

629
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: the people in Green Bay to hey man, I still

630
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 1: have it. I'm still one of the ones. And so

631
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him here because a very motivated Aaron

632
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: Rodgers could be a very dangerous Anon Rodgers.

633
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know year two what that

634
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: looks like. You're one on buying. I always Yeah, you

635
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: think he's gonna have a good year this year? Man, Yeah,

636
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: for this year.

637
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Yes, this year, he'll bounce back because it's personal to him,

638
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: and not only personal. He's prideful and dj When you're

639
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: a player like him who has pride, he is not

640
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: going to mess it up. They may not accomplish their goals,

641
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: but it won't be because Aaron Rodgers didn't pour in.

642
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: He has already done more this offseason with the Jets

643
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: then he's done the last two offseasons with the Packers

644
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: when it came to the connectivity that is necessary for

645
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: the team to win. When you see him hanging around

646
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: the young players, you see him kind of jumping in

647
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: OTAs and being around and doing that. To me, that's

648
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: a veteran that wants to make sure he puts on

649
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: a very impressive show when he takes the feel for

650
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: the justice.

651
00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: Fault no doubt. What's the phrase I think, Bruce arians

652
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: no risk it, no biscuit?

653
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Right? Is that risk? No risk it?

654
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: Feel like I feel very I've been very chalky through

655
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: this and now I'm to the point where I'm willing

656
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: to take you know, let's take the driver out of

657
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: the Yeah, let's take a swing here, because Lamar Jackson

658
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: will be the obvious pick. He's got MVP. When he's

659
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: been healthy, he's been excellent. But I will say, I

660
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: don't know what this looks like with Todd Monk, and

661
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: I know they've added these pieces around him. The offense

662
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: is going to be different. We've only really seen him

663
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: in one offense. I'm curious to see what it looks

664
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: like here in this new version. The Ravens are are

665
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: chasing kind of a new identity offensively. I just I

666
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: don't have quite as much confidence. It might be great,

667
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: it might be off the charts, but I do know

668
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: one thing where you are in Jacksonville right now. I've

669
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: seen that quarterback with that play caller and how that's meshing,

670
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: and I'm seeing where this is going. We talked at

671
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: the top. You mentioned Calvin Ridley and what he means

672
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: potentially this offense. Adding him to the mix, I'm gonna buy.

673
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy on Trevor Lawrence and maybe take him

674
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: a little bit higher than maybe maybe the track record

675
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: would suggest. But this is about this year coming forward.

676
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: I think Trevor Lawrence has a monster year. I'm gonna

677
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: go with the big dude from Clemson.

678
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you right there, because debate for me at

679
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: number six is that Trevor Lawrence is Aaron Rodgers. Do

680
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: you give Aaron Rodgers to not because of what he's

681
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: done and what you're hopeful that he can do, or

682
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: do you give Trevor Lawrence his just due? The thing

683
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: about Trevor and I'll say this to me, and when

684
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: we were having the coming out, I compare Trevor Lawrence

685
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: to Justin Herbert. To me, I see one and the same.

686
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: I see guys who can do similar things. I see

687
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: guys who have similar stature.

688
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: They're both monsters.

689
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Herbert I think has a stronger arm. Don't know

690
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: how much stronger, but it appears to be stronger. But

691
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence to me, is Justin Herbert. He can do

692
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: those things and in time, given the cast that he

693
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: has around him, I think you're gonna see him do

694
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. And so Trevor Lawrence goes your way,

695
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Lamar Jackson, and a lot of this

696
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: is sight unseen. I have a lot of faith in

697
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, former MVP. I'm hoping that he comes back

698
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: and in this offense, because I remember Lamar Jackson at Louisville,

699
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: and I remember how he played at Louisville, and everyone

700
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: talked about the back to back years with over fifty

701
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards. But and Bobby Petrino's system, he put

702
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: up a bunch of numbers and a bunch of points.

703
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: And so for Todd munkin coming in running a traditional

704
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: pass game, and yeah, they use some of that. Eventually,

705
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson had to graduate to an offense like this

706
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: if he's going to be able to play at a

707
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: high level at the end of the deal that he

708
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: just signed. And so the challenge would be ken Lamar

709
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: Jackson meet them halfway? Can he meet the expectations that

710
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens have for him to grow and to make

711
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: all these things happen as a passer. I'm gonna say

712
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: he's able to do it. Even though we didn't put

713
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: him in the top five. Some of that is because

714
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: the aster let's see what this offense looks like, because

715
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: you're still waiting to see because health and.

716
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: New offense, I mean, that's it.

717
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: Legit questions, Yeah, I mean, and Rashad Babman obj they've

718
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: flowered like there's a lot of questions, but yeah, he

719
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: deserves to be up in there. So that's why I'll

720
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: take him right now.

721
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: All right. I mean, I think again we talked about

722
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: the top five being clear cut. I feel like to me,

723
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: the top eight, like these are the eight names. However

724
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: you want to jostle these guys around, those feel like

725
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: the eight guys, and especially like those last three Rogers,

726
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Lawrence Lamar Jackson. You know, I wouldn't have any any

727
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: issue with however you stack those three guys, but that

728
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: to me feels like that clump, that next clump. Now,

729
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: I think the it's kind of wide open where you

730
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: go from here after these eight guys. And so it's

731
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: whether you want to go with somebody who's done it

732
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: in the past, who maybe is you know, age injury,

733
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: or do you want to go with somebody you're kind

734
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: of betting on taking that next step and going forward.

735
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: You did it with Rogers, banking on previous success and

736
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: then and then thinking that you know, we got another

737
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: shot this thing. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna take

738
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: that same approach. I'm gonna go with Matthew Stafford here

739
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: with the next team. And I feel like it's a

740
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: little bit out of sight, out of mind. But the

741
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: last time we saw him really, really healthy, the guy's

742
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: hoisting super Bowl trophy. He played out of his mind

743
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: in a couple of those games. Especially think about the

744
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: Tampa game, what he did, making much plays late in

745
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: that one. So I know the Rams they're they're not rebuilding, reloading,

746
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. They're not a super

747
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: talented team. But offensively, I still think when you look

748
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: at Cooper Cup, who's going to be able to get

749
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: the ball to acres in the backfield McVeigh Colin plays,

750
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: He's if he stays out there and stays healthy. I

751
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: think Stafford has a really good year.

752
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he could have a good year. I mean,

753
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: here's the one thing that's under not but I remember

754
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: watching him in Detroit. He has always been a guy

755
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: who can sling it all over the yard. He can

756
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: give his team a chance just on the strength of

757
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: his right arm. It'd be ugly for the Rams because

758
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: they don't have much around him, but he's certainly talented enough.

759
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: And so you talked about things in the past kind

760
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: of giving you confidence that Matthew Stafford can bounce back.

761
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same thing, and I'm gonna go

762
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson in Cleveland. Part of that is it

763
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: was ugly last year. But part of the reason it

764
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: was ugly last year when you have a year off,

765
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't care what position you play, I don't care

766
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: how talented you are. Being away from the NFL for

767
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: a year, that the rust just falls on your game.

768
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: And then you think about the pressure that was on

769
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, because let's be honest and frank, Deshaun Watson

770
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: has never had to play the villain role. You know,

771
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: there's certain guys that can be the guy that wears

772
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: the black hat. It reminds me of when Lebron James

773
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: went to Miami and everyone vilified him for the decision

774
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: and he came out and he tried to play the bag.

775
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: But that's not who he is. DeShawn Watson is not

776
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: the villain, and so I think that really messed with

777
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: his game, Like all of that stuff. I believe he's

778
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: in a better frame of mind now year two in

779
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski system. I expect him to play better. The

780
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: other thing that would help him play better the players

781
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: around him, Amark Cooper being there, Elijah Moore being there,

782
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: what they've done with the offensive line and those things,

783
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: he'll play better. I expect DeShawn Watson to play at

784
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: a high level. Remember two years ago when he played

785
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: last for the Houston text he was the top five quarterback.

786
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: He can get back to the level in the canvas

787
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: to fans gain.

788
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns, Yeah, they've got some dudes. I mean,

789
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: they've got some pretty good pieces around him. That'll be

790
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: interesting to see how that all shakes out. Well, there

791
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: you have it. I came away with Mahomes, Herbert Hurts,

792
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: Lawrence Stafford Buck, you had Burrow, Allen Rogers, Lamar Jackson,

793
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 2: and Deshaun Watson. So those are the ten. Feel free

794
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 2: to debate it, let us know. I'm sure you guys

795
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: have some issues with how they came off the board.

796
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: I think they're great. I think those are the ten

797
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: best guys.

798
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't even though we got the ten.

799
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: So DJ's some notable misses. No Dak Prescott, No Dak

800
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: Prescott in the top ten.

801
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: But the crazy thing is, you know, we talk about

802
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: how loaded the league is, right with these young quarterbacks

803
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: but you know, you could make a case like if

804
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: that's the top ten, you could say, Okay, people talk

805
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: about Kirk Cousins and Kirk Cousins, and I think in

806
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: your head it's easy to say Kirk Cousins is probably

807
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: the eighteenth best quarterback. And I'm like, really, you can

808
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: find where the other seven guys you're gonna put ahead

809
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: of him? Now, Like Kirk is the top fourteen quarterback.

810
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Okay. Everyone loves to poke fun at Jery Goff. Jared

811
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Goff can be in that conversation like so because I'm

812
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: sitting there looking at Dak Prescott, Jery Goff, Gino Smith.

813
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: It's just really after that year, it's hard to put

814
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: him in there.

815
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to put him in there. But the other thing, DJ,

816
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: if you don't take Matthew Stafford of the top ten,

817
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Hurts is the only NFC quarterback.

818
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: How about that?

819
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: If you don't take Matthew, Like, that's that's what we're

820
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: talking about, and so and so when we're talking about

821
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: super Bowls and teams and those things. Whatever, road to

822
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: entry into AOC.

823
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: How do you get there if you don't have one

824
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: of these guys?

825
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: How do you do it? How do you going to

826
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: do it?

827
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: You beat one of them in the playoffs. You're not

828
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: going to be three of these guys in the playoffs.

829
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: There's no way, no chance. NFC wide open. You feel good,

830
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: you're the Detroit Lions. Hey why not? Why not us

831
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: Jerry Goff?

832
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: You can made the case Jerry Goffer is the second

833
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the NFC. That would be the conversation

834
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: that you're having. You talk about him, and you talk

835
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: about what he can do with Ben Johnson, those things.

836
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: The NFC is wide open. I think that's why a

837
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: lot of people are bullish on Detroit. When you look

838
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: at the quarterback play, he has to be one of

839
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: the top three in the conference, and so you put

840
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: him in there, he gets hide, that offense gets hide

841
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: and they just play a little better on defense. Yeah,

842
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: it's a problem. You know.

843
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: The other thing that stood out to me on this

844
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: little project is we don't have Kyler Murray in there.

845
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: And now you look at Arizona. Not only would we

846
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: you can make the cases at least talented team in

847
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, but they've paid the quarterback. Like you're locked

848
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: into a quarterback who we don't believe is a top

849
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: ten quarterback in the league, and you paid him handsomely

850
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: and all. He's also hurt. But man, that's a tough

851
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: place to be in an organization. You don't have a

852
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: whole lot of talent. You've got a quarterback that isn't

853
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 2: a top ten player you're committed to in a big,

854
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: big way financially. Not a good place.

855
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: I know, I know, man in And that's the thing

856
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: in this we talked about the number going up for

857
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: the quarterback. The marketplace. Uh DJ, who's gonna hold firm all?

858
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: Some of these quarterbacks coming down to pipe.

859
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, not gonna do it.

860
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: Not gonna pay a little too rich for my blood.

861
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting, it'll be interesting to see.

862
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: All right, you want to play some hits and misses

863
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: before we get out of here.

864
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.

865
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna do We'll do a draft class in episodes,

866
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: so we'll go back to twenty sixteen. This is gonna

867
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: be hard to kind of rack your brain on some

868
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 2: of these guys, So I'm gonna do. I'll start off

869
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 2: with the misses. All right, I'm gonna give you. We'll

870
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 2: go through quickly here. I'll give you three misses and uh,

871
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: and then we'll see if you can come away with them.

872
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna do two safeties. Okay, two safeties

873
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: from the twenty sixteen draft. So you can pull it

874
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: up if you want to pull it up. I don't

875
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: know if you got on your computer there, buck, if

876
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: you can pull up that that draft class. But uh,

877
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: I'll give you the height, weight, speed, and I'm just

878
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: gonna do some of my notes that I put in

879
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: the computer. I'm not going to read the full report

880
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: it takes too long. The first one here, all right,

881
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: this guy is a safety. He was six oh two

882
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: three two oh two. He ran four six one, not

883
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: a great forty time played as the high safety, which

884
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: he continues to do in the NFL.

885
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: Uh.

886
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: He's got excellent range, he can cover tight ends, he

887
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: takes good angles. Also has a background as a returner.

888
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: Thought he was an inconsistent tackler. Thought he was a

889
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: catch tackler. And then you combine that with maybe not

890
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 2: elite you know, speed play speed. So I gave him

891
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: a third round grade. And this pointer has gone on

892
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: to go to multiple Pro Bowls. He was drafted in

893
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: about that range. I have to go back and look

894
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: and see when he was picked. He was not. He

895
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: was not a first or second round pick. I don't

896
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: but he is. Uh, he is someone that's been an

897
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: outstanding player. So I missed on him. I should have

898
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: given him a higher grade.

899
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm sitting here looking at the range and like

900
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: the only guy this in it range is like Kevin Bayer.

901
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: But I don't think this.

902
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: That's not kept fired.

903
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're talking.

904
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: I get I'm fired.

905
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: That is.

906
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 2: Let's see where he is here. That was a third

907
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: round pick. He was number ninety eight overall and he

908
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: went to a team in the a f C West.

909
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I see, I see who it is. Justin Simmons.

910
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: Justin Simmons been a great player, man, great player. It's

911
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: another lesson right, good reminder. Safeties forty times can be

912
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: a little you get. Don't get too carried away because

913
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 2: if you have if you have great speed and slow eyes,

914
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: you're no good. If you have great eyes and average speed,

915
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: you can be you can be an all pro.

916
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I know you canna put it. I'm gonna

917
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: way until you do the next safety because DJ, I'm

918
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: looking at the safety class.

919
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: You already you already said it, so you still you

920
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 2: stole my thunder on the next I saw you yet

921
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: because this one on Byed, I was lower on him

922
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: than than on Simmons. But I'm bired again and he

923
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: ran four six flat. So he was five eleven two

924
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 2: twenty two he ran four six flat. So both those

925
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: guys are for six safeties. My notes on him, He's

926
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: a he's a center fielder. He can read and locate

927
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: and play the ball. He's got excellent instincts, had issues

928
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: with his angles to the alley and some of the

929
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: inconsistency as a tackler. So two guys, if they really

930
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: kind of read similarly center fielders, find and play the ball.

931
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: They ran in the four sixes. But both guys Buck

932
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: just had excellent instincts and ball skills. And that's the

933
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: name of the game back there.

934
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: That is the name of the game. And he has

935
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: been a terrific ball hawk. I mean, he is a

936
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: guy that just understands sea ball, get ball, makes plays

937
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: on it. Just a terrific job. The thing that I

938
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: was gonna say about the safety class, I'm looking at

939
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: the safeties that came out that year. So you have

940
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: Carl Joseph West Virginia went to the Raids at fourteen.

941
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: Kean O'Neil goes to the Falcons. He's been a probate

942
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: linebacker now, yeah, playing linebacker. There's Sean Davis from Maryland

943
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: who ended up going to Pittsburgh in the second round.

944
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: Von Belle who's been a good player with the New

945
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Orleans Kevin Byrn as you just mentioned, uh, Darien Thompson

946
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: third round from Boys. To say, you know, it's just

947
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: a really a random class, right, I'm just grab I'm.

948
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: Gonna give you one more. So those are two safeties

949
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: I was too low on. This is a quarterback. I

950
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: was too high on. And relatively speaking, he was my

951
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: twenty eighth overall player. So this is huge right here.

952
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: Here is six oh six five two forty four four

953
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: eight six, huge arm, lots of RPOs, threes, a beautiful

954
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: deep ball. The concerns with him he never gets past

955
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: number two in the progression. It's one or two or

956
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: he's done. So I didn't love him. He was my

957
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: twenty eighth overall guy. In hindsight, it was too high.

958
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: He is out of the NFL right now.

959
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: A few packs.

960
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: That's that's it with a little with a little confidence there.

961
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: Because I'm looking, Oh yeah, I'm looking. I'm trying to

962
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: look at the WEEKID page. Paxton Lynz he DJ But

963
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: here here's the thing about that, right, he was a

964
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: twenty sixth pick.

965
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: He should not have been a first round pick in no.

966
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: But here here's the thing. To go back to the

967
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: bowl game, because I think you went and saw me

968
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: at the bowl game.

969
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: I want to game. That was a turnoff man, I

970
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: want to turn off higher because there was talking about

971
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: him being a top five pick and.

972
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: I remember I remember game. I was like, huh huh,

973
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember you going to the ball game.

974
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: Now he had to play with this interim coach because

975
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: I think, is it left to take the Virginia Tech job?

976
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: And so yeah, and so so he he he has

977
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 1: to play it. And you talked about how he sat

978
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: on the bench by himself, didn't talk to anybody, didn't

979
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: even really communicate with the coaches, and it was an

980
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: interim coach who was kind of taken over and it

981
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: was like, no point up. And you know the thing

982
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks, man, we talk ourselves into one. When you're

983
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: desperate and looking for one, that's when you make bad decisions.

984
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: And when you look at you go back and now

985
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: DJ because I've seen him play like either USFL or

986
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: XFL or whatever, and you look at him like, man,

987
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: how how on earth was he ever given the grades

988
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: that he was given? But yeah, this is one of

989
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: those things, man, desperation. Desperation breeds some of that guessing

990
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: and uh, mis evaluation because you're just so desperate before

991
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: a quarterback.

992
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: All right, So don't guess this one until I get

993
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: through it, because you're gonna know it. But this was

994
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: my number one player in this draft. He was a tackle.

995
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: He was six five three ten. He's got excellent eyes,

996
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: he can locate, he can latch in space. He's got

997
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: foot quickness, he's got excellent balance. He's got a strong punch.

998
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: He can torque and turn, he can redirect. Easy thought.

999
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: He was the best player in the entire draft.

1000
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: Man, twak and turn. He can't be talking about Yeah

1001
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: both was your number one player.

1002
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: No, no offense, this is an offense.

1003
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: Offense opposite Well, see not right. You couldn't have Ronnie

1004
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: stay as you didn't have Ronnie Sandy's the best player.

1005
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't remember the conversation. That's so tacticle. Larry, Yeah,

1006
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: Larry Tel.

1007
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: I feel like you just gotta have a little more

1008
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: confidence in your guesses. Man, you're saying Larry with your chest.

1009
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: Larry tells was a number more player.

1010
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: Every council, was my number one player in the draft.

1011
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: If not for the gas mask, you'd have gone way

1012
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: higher than he did. He's the highest paid, He's the

1013
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: highest paid offensive line in the NFL.

1014
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: I mean, the gas mask can say about it. You

1015
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't know this because you were on the big set.

1016
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I was sitting beside money money, and

1017
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: now are incredulous what is going on because we don't

1018
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: know on Twitter, like we hadn't seen the video of

1019
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: the thing, Like what is going on? Like why there

1020
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: must be something? And then you see the mask, You're like, yeah,

1021
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what. GEO could take.

1022
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: A tough one different times now though different times now

1023
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: a lot more accepted. I don't think it would have

1024
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: been as big of a deal if it happened right now.

1025
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: But no, I thought he was I thought he was

1026
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: the best player draft and he's he's been unbelievable. I mean,

1027
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: he's he's literally on a Hall of Fame track. The

1028
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: way he's playing.

1029
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: Uh, and he's been paid like all of him for sure.

1030
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, the next one, all right, this is

1031
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. He got picked almost exactly where I

1032
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: had him, So I'm counting it as a hit. Second

1033
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: round pick. Defensive lineman six zho five six three ten

1034
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: ran five h three plays DT and over the nose.

1035
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: He's got pure power, he can hold the point. He's

1036
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: got excellent get off, he's explosive, has a nice arm over,

1037
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: just plays a little bit high at times. But I

1038
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: had him in the thirties. He went in the thirties,

1039
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: and he's been a home run player.

1040
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: I feel there must be somebody that we just talked about.

1041
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: We talked about early in the beginning. Feels coming full circle.

1042
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: You're talking about Chris Jones. Is that you're talking about

1043
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: sports circle when they get off?

1044
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, But interesting to see though, Like right, you go

1045
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: back and look at your notes from twenty sixteen, and

1046
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: I mentioned his get off now here. We just talked

1047
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: at the top of the show, cause the second best

1048
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: get off of any edge rusher in the league last

1049
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: year at said fuck six five six three ten. I

1050
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: don't think I mean as great as he's been, and

1051
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: he's got a couple of championships. And I know we

1052
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: talk about him, but maybe not enough. Like this is

1053
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: an elite, elite, elite, elite, elite, elite player.

1054
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: He is an elite player, dominant player, and look, I

1055
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: will give UH the Chiefs credit for thinking outside the

1056
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: box when it comes to the utilization of him. He

1057
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: has been dominant and disruptive and continues to be and

1058
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: means CONTINESI get better outstanding player.

1059
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: Last one, Uh, this is an interior lineman who I liked.

1060
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: Played tackle in college. He was six oh four five

1061
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: three oh four or nine five, played left tackle. I

1062
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: thought this dude could really roll his hips. He can

1063
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: reach and cut off, does a nice job, but bendon

1064
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: shoots his hands. He can slide and recover. He has

1065
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: excellent instincts. That was the biggest takeaway which led me

1066
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 2: to believe. I thought he could kick inside and be

1067
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: a really good player. And he has been.

1068
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: Oh looking at these let you get me, I guess

1069
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: them flipping in the third round.

1070
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 2: I can pull this up here.

1071
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: Oh third round pick. Look, you're digging deep. Hmmmm. Third round.

1072
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Speaker 2: Third round, third round pick was a tackle that converted

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Speaker 2: a guard, so he probably.

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Speaker 1: Oh Joe, Oh that Joe Joe. He played tackle of

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Speaker 1: the State. Joe Joe Toney. He played tackle at inc

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Speaker 1: Steak I believe so yes, gosh, maybe the State thing

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Speaker 1: through me because I don't like State at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he played left tackle. I'm looking at my notes.

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Speaker 2: I just mention it there.

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Speaker 1: Wow left yeah State. Wow. He's been he has been terrific.

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Speaker 1: He has been terrific. Yeah, great player first with the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and these hits and misses, it's always good to

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Speaker 2: go back and say, Okay, what lesson can you take

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Speaker 2: from it? So we've learned a couple of lessons today, right, safeties,

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Speaker 2: don't get an ammer with the FO time trust, trust,

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Speaker 2: the instincts and eyes are more important than you're forty.

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Speaker 2: That's a lesson we can learn. And then for tackles

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Speaker 2: that are going to be conversions inside, like if you

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Speaker 2: don't have if everything happens fast for you a tackle,

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Speaker 2: you got no shot when you kick inside the guard

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Speaker 2: because it is moving in there. So you have to

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Speaker 2: be very instinctive as a tackle to be able to

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Speaker 2: survive moving inside to guard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be able to project and do

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Speaker 1: some of those things. He's been. He's been great. The

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Speaker 1: pages were able to really utilize him and then for

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Speaker 1: him to go and solidify the Cancit the Chiefs offensive line.

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Speaker 1: He's been as good as advertised, I mean even better

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Speaker 1: than advertise.

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Speaker 2: Well, hits a missus. We used to have a drop

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Speaker 2: in the bial for that. We used to have a

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Speaker 2: drop for hits and misses. That's in the computer anymore.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, that was that was fun. A little tripp

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Speaker 2: out member Lane and we'll do the twenty seventeen draft

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Speaker 2: in the next episode. Buck anything else you want to

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Speaker 2: add before we get out of here. A lot a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff covered today.

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Speaker 1: Fun conversation, fun conversation. So DJ, what I'm working on.

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Speaker 1: You always like to know about the notebook. I am

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Speaker 1: working on making out my all breakout teams. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to look at some players. That's your breakout this year.

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Speaker 1: Should be a lot of fun to go through that

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Speaker 1: you have.

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Speaker 2: You have my permission to adopt us as the Baron

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Speaker 2: Browning podcast.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know we may have to do that.

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Speaker 2: Interesting all right, that's gonna do it for us. Hope

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Speaker 2: you guys have enjoyed hanging with us again. Want to

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Speaker 2: ask you again, just as kindly as we can any

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Speaker 2: any ratings, reviews you drop for us, on Apple, on

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Speaker 2: the podcast, on anywhere you listen to podcasts you drop

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Speaker 2: us a rating and review. We do appreciate that as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it for us. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you next time right here on movie sticks