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Speaker 2: Welcome Man, What Dry with Nick? Great Episode two seventy nine,
Speaker 2: Fresh off a not that intriguing Monday night football game,
Speaker 2: a great though, Week eleven in the NFL was it yeah?
Speaker 2: Week eleven in the NFL one o'clock Steelers Ravens delivered
Speaker 2: four point thirty Chiefs Bills delivered, even though if it
Speaker 2: made me sad, and then Sunday Night football looked like
Speaker 2: we were gonna get a laugher turned into a hell
Speaker 2: of a game. There's a great week into football, except for,
Speaker 2: of course, for me gambling. This was my first awful
Speaker 2: weekend of the year. It's a kind of a double
Speaker 2: edged sword, Demanse. It was I did poorly against the spread,
Speaker 2: and I did poorly against the spread in the early games,
Speaker 2: and then had my you know, get back all your money.
Speaker 2: Chiefs are underdogs by five and a half minutes into
Speaker 2: Bill's Chiefs Firefire Fire on the Chiefs live money line
Speaker 2: didn't work out, you know, sometimes it'd be like that.
Speaker 2: What I should have just done is what everyone should
Speaker 2: do for football gambling this year is make one bet
Speaker 2: a week. Demand's teaser, which was, I truly believe the
Speaker 2: only Chiefs related teaser in America that hit because everyone
Speaker 2: had them getting eight or eight and a half. You
Speaker 2: with your seven and a half pointers got him in
Speaker 2: right under the wire.
Speaker 3: So lose my nine.
Speaker 2: You got him plus ten. I know the and the
Speaker 2: obviously the Steelers leg of it won because they won outright.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to all of that do Monday Night
Speaker 2: football first, though, Here's what missed the cut. The Tyson
Speaker 2: Paul fight not great. Tommy DeVito is back with the Giants,
Speaker 2: and the Jets are so bad they're not even I
Speaker 2: don't think in the show. Here's my only Tommy DeVito
Speaker 2: anecdote at the World Series, his agent was walking around
Speaker 2: like throughout the entirety of these games, and I've never
Speaker 2: in my life seen someone more eager for people to
Speaker 2: be like, hey, are you such and such? Can we
Speaker 2: take a picture? Like it was. His eagerness of people
Speaker 2: asking him for pictures could only be topped by the
Speaker 2: folks who dress up like superheroes in Times Square and
Speaker 2: that's how they make their living. Like, I've never seen
Speaker 2: anything like it, and so more power to him. Good
Speaker 2: for him, man, But Tommy Deviato back in the league,
Speaker 2: what do you mean below the belt? What do you mean?
Speaker 3: He's a publica a real flame right there?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, I hope it doesn't get back to him.
Speaker 2: My goodness, he's gonna throw his Riddler hat at me
Speaker 2: and I'll be cooked, all right, Toman say, let's get
Speaker 2: to the show. Oh man, oh man, go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So last night the Texans demolished the Cowboys. It was
Speaker 3: looking pretty bad, and it actually started to look good
Speaker 3: there for a second, looked like we had a game
Speaker 3: and then they had one of the more embarrassing turnovers
Speaker 3: of the season. But the big story here isn't the
Speaker 3: Texans the Cowboys and how demoralize they look on the sideline.
Speaker 3: It just looked like they had quit on the season.
Speaker 3: You had all those players going down.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I so real quick. I want to say
Speaker 2: something when this game looked like it could briefly be
Speaker 2: a game, And I thought about tweeting about this last night,
Speaker 2: and then I was like, eh, I'll just explain it
Speaker 2: on the pod and we'll move on. I really disagree
Speaker 2: with Mike McCarthy's decision to take that sixty four yard
Speaker 2: field goal off the board. And I understand people's gut instinct,
Speaker 2: which is, well, hold on. When the drive started, the
Speaker 2: goal was a touchdown. You have an opportunity because of
Speaker 2: the penalty to get first, have first and ten from
Speaker 2: the thirty one yard line. You'll still be able to
Speaker 2: kick a field goal in all likelihood if you want to.
Speaker 2: Why would you? Why would you think he made the
Speaker 2: wrong decision? And this is to me kind of like
Speaker 2: the poker gambling part of my brain. I think you
Speaker 2: the I think you have to look at all these
Speaker 2: situations demands of not all of them. But let me
Speaker 2: rephrase it. One way to look at it is, what
Speaker 2: are my expected points from this moment of this possession.
Speaker 2: So when you've made the sixty four yard field goal,
Speaker 2: that is done. It's no longer a question will you
Speaker 2: make or miss the kick? You know what the value
Speaker 2: of that is. It's exactly three points. It's gonna be
Speaker 2: the value of three points and the clock being where
Speaker 2: it is. What do you think the expected value for
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys with Cooper Rush at quarterback is first
Speaker 2: and ten from the Texans thirty one yard line. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's much more than three. Like the way
Speaker 2: you would do the math is, what's the percentage chance
Speaker 2: they get a touchdown, what's the percentage chance they make
Speaker 2: a field goal on this possession, what's the percentage chance
Speaker 2: they miss a field goal? And what's the percentage chance
Speaker 2: they turn it over either on downs, pick whatever? And
Speaker 2: multiply all of those percentages by the points associated with it.
Speaker 2: Zero with a turnover, zero with a missed field goal,
Speaker 2: three with a made field goal, seven with a touchdown.
Speaker 2: And you do it, man, I mean just back of
Speaker 2: the napkin math I feel like is and we can
Speaker 2: do this in real time. What are they to get
Speaker 2: a touchdown there? First and ten from the thirty one
Speaker 2: I think it's less than twenty percent. I honestly do.
Speaker 2: But let's call call it twenty percent, okay, twenty times
Speaker 2: seven points. So for that little bucket, you have one
Speaker 2: point four points. What's the odds of them turning the
Speaker 2: ball over? Either uh, turnover or they go for it
Speaker 2: on fourth down and don't get it. I honestly it
Speaker 2: felt to me in real time like thirty five percent
Speaker 2: something like that, and that like one in three. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know, So let's just call it
Speaker 2: thirty five percent. So that leaves forty five percent chance
Speaker 2: you kick the field goal and make it. Let's just
Speaker 2: say Aubrey is almost guaranteed there, but that's five percent
Speaker 2: chance he misses it, forty percent chance you kick the
Speaker 2: field goal and make it. So now we've got forty
Speaker 2: percent times three. That's one point two expected points. We
Speaker 2: already had the one point four expected points. So I
Speaker 2: think you're you're expected value from declining that penalty is
Speaker 2: two and a half points and you're guaranteed the like.
Speaker 2: So I just wouldn't have done it. So I just
Speaker 2: think you've got the context of Cooper Rushes, my quarterback.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have done it, and the added context of
Speaker 2: and this is kind of the fuzzy math demnse Houston
Speaker 2: blew a huge lead last week. They didn't expect this
Speaker 2: to be a dog fight. Now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: midway through the third quarter, it's a one score game,
Speaker 2: like all those things. So I thought it was a mistake.
Speaker 2: For if you have a real quarterback, then you turn
Speaker 2: that down. I totally get it. But when Cooper rushes
Speaker 2: your quarterback and you can, you've locked in three points
Speaker 2: and you're only gonna be at the thirty one, I
Speaker 2: thought that was a mistake.
Speaker 3: Now that's not why they lost.
Speaker 2: No, I think that is. No. I don't think it
Speaker 2: was a glaring mistake. If we're done with him between
Speaker 2: two point six and three, like in my back of
Speaker 2: them met Napkin math, all of it. I just think
Speaker 2: everyone's gut, all of my analytically inclined friends, I think
Speaker 2: the gut is, oh, he did the right thing. And
Speaker 2: I'm saying I actually think in the context of this
Speaker 2: football game, with Cooper Rush as the quarterback, that's not
Speaker 2: the right call. Normally, if you can get a first down,
Speaker 2: you take the first down. But this was a unique
Speaker 2: spot where it was such a long field goal. The
Speaker 2: fifteen yards doesn't from the line of scrimmage, doesn't actually
Speaker 2: put you, like even in the red zone. And the
Speaker 2: offense has been so shaky. Now as far as the
Speaker 2: Cowboys like this, and this is why Jerry keeps giving
Speaker 2: longer and longer interviews, and this is why he seems
Speaker 2: to be flailing. He built a terrible team. That's the answer.
Speaker 2: The answer is Jerry Jones is in a position now.
Speaker 2: I understand Dak is now hurt, but they were really
Speaker 2: bad when Dak was out there. They built a team
Speaker 2: where you have three guys who are Dak is paid
Speaker 2: like a superstar, and he's you know, good to really
Speaker 2: good at times. Seedee Lamb is paid like a superstar.
Speaker 2: He is a superstar. Mike is cheap, but he is
Speaker 2: a superstar. But the rest of your team has almost
Speaker 2: no redeeming qualities. Your offensive line is mediocre, You have
Speaker 2: the worst running game in football. Your wide receivers after
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb are nothing noteworthy. Your the rest of your
Speaker 2: defense you get run on. Your secondary is probably a
Speaker 2: little overpaid. Your you're just now you've been dealing with injuries.
Speaker 2: I get it, but this this is a more than
Speaker 2: it's a Mike McCarthy issue. It's a Jerry Jones issue.
Speaker 2: And I know there's a lot of buzz about oh,
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders or the Cowboys doing something exotic. Man, they
Speaker 2: should beg Mike for Able to come there and create
Speaker 2: a real football program and block out as much of
Speaker 2: the Jerry Jones nonsense as he can and build a
Speaker 2: team that's good up front on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 2: and hope then your star power of Dak and CD
Speaker 2: can push over the top. But this whole, all these
Speaker 2: the folks being like hired Dion or draft a quarterback. Guys,
Speaker 2: they made their commitment to Dak, like Dak is the
Speaker 2: Cowboys quarterback the next few years. You're not spending your
Speaker 2: top ten pick. If they had not signed Dak as
Speaker 2: all summer long demons, I said, hold your water, and
Speaker 2: I thought they were going to. Then they're in a
Speaker 2: unique spot. You have a top ten pick, maybe a
Speaker 2: top five picking, draft your quarterback, reset the rookie QB
Speaker 2: salary scale, Pay Mica, PAYCD. You're not paying your rookie.
Speaker 2: You know, that becomes a much more attractive job because
Speaker 2: the upside grow with the rookie quarterback, but they paid
Speaker 2: Dak so this idea they're gonna draft Shador or anybody
Speaker 2: and then trade Deck. He has a no trade clause.
Speaker 2: The contract hasn't even started yet. The contract they signed
Speaker 2: him to kicks in next year, so they're just stuck
Speaker 2: where they are. All right, now, let's go to teams
Speaker 2: that wait. Oh one other thing. Houston probably not good
Speaker 2: enough to win more than one playoff game. And that's
Speaker 2: okay like that. I know that's frustrating because that's where
Speaker 2: they were last year. But they are. Maybe it's the injuries,
Speaker 2: maybe it's the natural you know, schedule got tougher, they
Speaker 2: didn't sneak up on anybody, all that stuff, but they
Speaker 2: are a just really hope not to be one and
Speaker 2: done playoff team because Demons, their first round playoff game
Speaker 2: is overwhelmingly likely either going to be Baltimore or the Chargers.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I like both those teams
Speaker 2: right now more than Houston. Like, I know Baltimore, but
Speaker 2: I'm saying even the Chargers like the right now. I
Speaker 2: think the Chargers are so much stronger upfront than Houston.
Speaker 2: Like so that's but so Houston's gonna be in a
Speaker 2: rough spot in their Assuming they hold off the Colts,
Speaker 2: which I think they will, they're gonna be in a
Speaker 2: rough spot in the first round. But the idea that
Speaker 2: they're gonna be a conference championship game contender or a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender, as a lot of people had them,
Speaker 2: I don't think they're there yet. And there's no shame
Speaker 2: in that, but I just don't think they're there yet.
Speaker 2: All right, demonse, Let's go on to the you know
Speaker 2: the game everyone wants to hear me be sad about.
Speaker 4: Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you're a Chiefs lost to the Bills this weekend,
Speaker 3: lost their first game, and it was probably for the best.
Speaker 4: You were saying that they needed to get that loss
Speaker 4: out of the way.
Speaker 3: You predicted that the Bills would look impressive and maybe
Speaker 3: even win. You also said two things on TV that
Speaker 3: you're not worried about Mahomes and that Buffalo has better
Speaker 3: weapons and protection than years past. Do you fear that
Speaker 3: there's a possibility that Buffalo is better than Kansas City?
Speaker 3: Comes to January February or January? Should I say nothing?
Speaker 2: All right? So couple things. One is I didn't say
Speaker 2: Buffalo had better weapons than yours past. They have a bet,
Speaker 2: but they do have a better offensive line and defensive
Speaker 2: line than yours past. The Bills right now have the
Speaker 2: best offensive line Josh has ever had, the best defensive
Speaker 2: line Josh has ever had, and Josh is playing the
Speaker 2: best he's ever played. And so am I worried. I'm
Speaker 2: not worried in the traditional sense like it. I think
Speaker 2: if they play in the playoff, the Chiefs are better
Speaker 2: than them that game almost as you know. The Chiefs
Speaker 2: now still have some work to do to make sure
Speaker 2: that game's in Arrowhead, but they proved last year they
Speaker 2: can win in Buffalo in the playoffs, and they're still
Speaker 2: a huge favorite for it to be in Arrowhead. If
Speaker 2: things hold the way they're going. In order to get
Speaker 2: to the Chiefs, the Bills will have had to play
Speaker 2: a wild card game that'll be annoying, and then a
Speaker 2: Round two game either against Pittsburgh, Baltimore, the Chargers one
Speaker 2: of those teams, and you know the kind of back
Speaker 2: to back physical wars. Baltimore wouldn't so much be physical,
Speaker 2: but Pittsburgh or the Chargers would be. So I feel
Speaker 2: like the Chiefs are still in a very, very advantageous position. However,
Speaker 2: I if you were to ask me in the AFC
Speaker 2: the team I would least like to play, Like, if
Speaker 2: I have to make the list of like your wish
Speaker 2: list of playoff opponents, Buffalo's the team I would least
Speaker 2: like to play. I like. For me, the power rankings
Speaker 2: of least want to play in the AFC in the
Speaker 2: playoffs is Buffalo one with a bullet the Steelers two.
Speaker 2: And I know that sounds ridiculous because Russ and my
Speaker 2: feelings on him, but the Chiefs tackle situation is right
Speaker 2: now in is so shaky that you do worry the
Speaker 2: team with the best edge rusher in the league, TJ. Watt,
Speaker 2: and then great guys alongside him on the d line
Speaker 2: that that by itself could just ruin the game. So
Speaker 2: the Steelers would be two, the Chargers would be three,
Speaker 2: and then Baltimore. And we can talk more about Baltimore
Speaker 2: in a minute, but like I, Buffalo is clearly number
Speaker 2: one as far as Kansas City and not being worried
Speaker 2: like I do think there is a benefit to not
Speaker 2: having the undefeated season kind of build pressure momentum. However
Speaker 2: they do because it was the Bills game they lost
Speaker 2: and they don't have the tiebreaker they do now have
Speaker 2: work to do. The benefit that I was talking about
Speaker 2: on TV is an addition to the undefeated season thing there.
Speaker 2: Romo said it at the end of the game. It
Speaker 2: would have been weird. It might have been, you know,
Speaker 2: one of them good problems like Marlow's. Stanfield would say.
Speaker 2: But I to lock up the one seed with seven
Speaker 2: games left, do you then run the risk that that
Speaker 2: you know, you play essentially meaningless games from mid November
Speaker 2: until the playoffs start for you in mid January. That
Speaker 2: would be a little It would be unprecedented the very
Speaker 2: it would be odd. So I do think there's a
Speaker 2: benefit there, But I also think the Chiefs need to
Speaker 2: tighten a few things up, like Mahomes. Mahomes needs to
Speaker 2: play better early in these games. And I understand the
Speaker 2: team not looking as sharp early in games. I understand
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do as far as work on
Speaker 2: different things, try different things out during games that they
Speaker 2: can then figure out what they do or don't want
Speaker 2: to use in games that actually matter. But Mahomes is
Speaker 2: just not so sharp early and then late, like in
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, early the Bills go up at by nine,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it's like, oh, there's the
Speaker 2: Chiefs playoff offense, just a surgical right down the field touchdown,
Speaker 2: But they dug themselves too big of a hole to
Speaker 2: where despite that touchdown, they still it needed the defense
Speaker 2: to get a stop in order for them to have
Speaker 2: a chance to win, and the defense got love them
Speaker 2: had their first He's talking about the first player.
Speaker 4: The last, the first pick.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's exactly what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. That was that set the tone for
Speaker 2: the Chiefs for playing catch up the whole game, like
Speaker 2: the game was being played on Buffalo's terms from that,
Speaker 2: And he's done that a few times this year, so
Speaker 2: like it. Listen, he's the best. In my I feel
Speaker 2: like he's the greatest player in the history of the league.
Speaker 2: He's he has earned more benefit of the doubt than
Speaker 2: any player I've ever seen as far as Oh, even
Speaker 2: if he he and the offense look bad for big
Speaker 2: portions of the season like they did last year, come
Speaker 2: to the playoffs, they're gonna play perfect football, just perfect,
Speaker 2: no mistakes. But they're those things do need to tighten up.
Speaker 2: I think he and Xavier they're getting closer, Like Xavier's
Speaker 2: got to do a better job dragging his feet, but
Speaker 2: Patrick also has to do a job hitting him in stride.
Speaker 2: But they're working on that, and so I'm not I
Speaker 2: still believe the Chiefs are the best team in the
Speaker 2: league with a bullet and they're about to get Pa
Speaker 2: Chacko back and then they get Charles A. Mine Who
Speaker 2: back and then we'll see about Hollywood Brown by the
Speaker 2: very end of the year. So they're adding pieces rather
Speaker 2: than losing pieces. But the tackle position, the left tackle
Speaker 2: spot's got to get better, and I would think they
Speaker 2: might call Donovan Smith, who was their left tackle last
Speaker 2: year and is semi retired but has said he's you know,
Speaker 2: he's ready. If the Chiefs call and listen, they're gonna be.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be rotating guys at the number two corner
Speaker 2: position because Jalen Watson broke his ankle. It's one of
Speaker 2: the most important injuries for the Chiefs all year, and
Speaker 2: they don't have someone to fill that role right now.
Speaker 2: But I am I worried about the Bills. No, are
Speaker 2: the Bills the scariest team in the AFC UH for
Speaker 2: the Chiefs to play, yes, go ahead, demonse.
Speaker 3: Well after Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Do you think that the
Speaker 3: Kansas City Buffalo rivalry is the biggest current rivalry of
Speaker 3: the era?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's weird to have a rivalry where
Speaker 2: it's not your divisional opponent, but they play literally every
Speaker 2: year in the regular season because they both win their
Speaker 2: division every year, and they play most years in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would say it's the best ride. Like
Speaker 2: Baltimore Pittsburgh just has the history. All the games are great,
Speaker 2: they played twice a year. But yeah, like.
Speaker 3: Kansas City Buffalo is the better rivalry right now. I
Speaker 3: mean it's just happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the stakes are higher, it feels like, but Baltimore Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: you know, just because it's twice the year and they're
Speaker 2: so hated to histor it. Yeah, that's fair, all right,
Speaker 2: So the hit me with the other follow ups.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Detroit, they have the best odds to win
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl right now?
Speaker 4: Do you think that's fair?
Speaker 2: I think Kansas City should be a prohibitive favorite, but
Speaker 2: I understand that I think more highly of the Chiefs
Speaker 2: than Vegas as that's fine. But the other reason Detroit
Speaker 2: has the odds it does is right now, there's there's
Speaker 2: not a bunch of teams in the NFC, Vegas believes
Speaker 2: in like they desperately want to believe in the Niners.
Speaker 2: But the Nighters are in last place in their division
Speaker 2: and now one in three in the division and an
Speaker 2: underdog to make the playoffs. So the Niners, you know
Speaker 2: they're in, They're in rough shape. The Packers haven't looked
Speaker 2: as impressive as people maybe would have hoped. So it's
Speaker 2: really like after Detroit, unless you really believe in the Vikings,
Speaker 2: which I think is hard to do, it's just the Eagles.
Speaker 2: So I think those odds are reflected on that. There's
Speaker 2: the is so much less top heavy than the AFC.
Speaker 2: The NFC is better in the middle, Like the fight
Speaker 2: for the seventh seed in the NFC is gonna be
Speaker 2: good teams involved in it, and the fight for the
Speaker 2: seventh seed in the AFC eight and nine might end
Speaker 2: up winning it. Like, I mean, that's gonna be really
Speaker 2: a stark difference. But at the top, the AFC is
Speaker 2: so much better. I think that's what I think. That
Speaker 2: is what the odds are reflecting there. All right, let's
Speaker 2: move on to Lamar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Baltimore dropped a winnable game against the Steelers
Speaker 3: this weekend. Lamar has now lost eight of nine games.
Speaker 4: Against the Steelers. He cannot get it done.
Speaker 3: So Lamar are either seeds to set it on fire
Speaker 3: or just forget how to play football? Is Lamar more
Speaker 3: limited than we are thinking? Or do you think that
Speaker 3: he gets more blame for Justin Tucker missing field goals?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, so first let me be fair to Lamar
Speaker 2: because he didn't start all those games. He's Lamar is
Speaker 2: now one in five against Pittsburgh and his crew, so
Speaker 2: it's not quite as bad as eight and nine, but
Speaker 2: it's obviously not great. He and so he's missed some
Speaker 2: games and that that it's shocking. He's only beaten the
Speaker 2: Ravens the one time. But I go ahead, Demansey, Oh no,
Speaker 2: it was just a small correction.
Speaker 3: It wasn't I do. I'm curious here what you what
Speaker 3: you want to say now? Because you told me to
Speaker 3: jump in and say something. What do you have to say?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's everybody. I don't know why it
Speaker 2: is a controversial opinion that the bigger the game, the
Speaker 2: worst Lamar plays, because it's not an opinion, it's just
Speaker 2: the facts, and it is so weird that it seems
Speaker 2: like I'm out here on an island on this opinion
Speaker 2: when it is so factually irrefutable, And it just really
Speaker 2: seems to me, and I hate to do this, but
Speaker 2: that the media is just playing favorites and not saying
Speaker 2: about Lamar what we have no problem saying about athletes
Speaker 2: across all sports that check the box of MVP caliber
Speaker 2: guy in the regular season, who in the postseason and
Speaker 2: in the biggest regular season moments is a totally different player.
Speaker 2: The whole media was in Unison on James Harden when
Speaker 2: he was a superstar, but this applied to him. The
Speaker 2: whole media last year was in Unison on Joel Embiid
Speaker 2: when this applied to him. The whole media was in
Speaker 2: Unice on Aaron Judge a month ago when this applied
Speaker 2: to him. But when you have a player such as
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson who we know struggles massively in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: you then extrapolate it to, oh, what's the team in
Speaker 2: the regular season, the one team he struggles against the
Speaker 2: absolute most statistically and from a win loss record, And
Speaker 2: the answer is, oh, his hated divisional rival. And then
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, what's the only other team. He actually
Speaker 2: really struggles with camp beat and has a terrible statistical
Speaker 2: record and it's oh the reigning dynasty of his era.
Speaker 2: But in every other circumstance he is statistically speaking, one
Speaker 2: of the greatest players in the history of his sport.
Speaker 2: We have a word for that in sports. It's not
Speaker 2: a nice word, but it's a word we use on
Speaker 2: every athlete applies to It's called choking, getting tight the
Speaker 2: moment's a little too big. And we did this to
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning because Peyton struggled in the playoffs, couldn't play,
Speaker 2: didn't play well against the Patriots. We did it to
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning for the first eight years of his career
Speaker 2: until he finally got over the hump, and his postseason
Speaker 2: resume was not as checkered as Lamar's and his success.
Speaker 2: And for some reason, when it comes to Lamar, I'm
Speaker 2: an asshole. The guy has a career one ten passer
Speaker 2: rating while winning eighty percent of his games and a
Speaker 2: three to one touchdown interception ratio in every situation there
Speaker 2: is except for playoffs, Chiefs Steelers, and in those three
Speaker 2: circumstances he wins twenty five percent of his game, has
Speaker 2: a seventy five rating and has more turnovers than touchdowns.
Speaker 2: And people want to say it's coincidence. It's nothing about
Speaker 2: him type. It's not that he tightens up in big spots.
Speaker 2: It's not that all of a sudden he misses open passes.
Speaker 2: It's just bad luck. I I it is the most.
Speaker 3: More meeting with Lamar Jackson as it's the coaches. It's
Speaker 3: the coaching, and the more you see Labar Jackson, the
Speaker 3: better you are at stopping him. And I don't think
Speaker 3: it's any coincidence that the person it is the best coaching.
Speaker 2: Except listen, except he's ten and two against the Bengals.
Speaker 2: He actually hasn't seen the Steelers that much because he's
Speaker 2: missed so many games. He does well against the Browns
Speaker 2: at like, guys, it is a it is a direct,
Speaker 2: a direct inverse correlation for Lamar between how big the
Speaker 2: game is and his performance in it. What is Lamar
Speaker 2: is twenty three to one with stats that are truly
Speaker 2: not to be believed in what circumstances? The non conference
Speaker 2: games the least important games on your schedule, like I
Speaker 2: don't I And here's the other thing that is frustrating
Speaker 2: about the Lamar discourse. And this is where I think
Speaker 2: there is true hypocrisy. Every time the Ravens crush this year,
Speaker 2: every week the storyline has been look at Lamar Jackson's numbers.
Speaker 2: He's having one of the greatest quarterbacking seasons ever, twenty
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, two picks, the highest rating in the history
Speaker 2: of the league. He's going to be a three time MVP.
Speaker 2: After one of those wins, John Harbaugh was asked how
Speaker 2: they did it, and he literally said, and I quote, well,
Speaker 2: it started with Lamar, and it ended with Lamar, and
Speaker 2: there was a lot of Lamar in between. But aside
Speaker 2: from Lamar and Lamar Lamar, the other guys played. Well
Speaker 2: that's what the head coach said. So when they win,
Speaker 2: that's the narrative, and every time they lose, this is
Speaker 2: the conversation. Why didn't they hand the ball to Derek
Speaker 2: Henry Moore. It's like, well, I don't know, because we're
Speaker 2: throwing a preemptive parade for the presumptive MVP. You're not
Speaker 2: allowed to have the opinion. You're not allowed to have
Speaker 2: these two opinions simultaneously. Going into last week, Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: was the league's MVP and Baltimore made a mistake by
Speaker 2: putting the ball in Lamar Jackson's hands. You can't have
Speaker 2: both those opinions. You got to pick one. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: the Lamar discourse frustrates me because I don't think people
Speaker 2: are being honest and I think they know it. I
Speaker 2: think they know that this is I don't even have
Speaker 2: to go to his treatom on. It is exact what
Speaker 2: was said about Dak Prescott last season. Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 2: having an MVP gliber season to having the best season
Speaker 2: of his career. Great player, but we don't trust him
Speaker 2: from the postseason. We don't trust him in the biggest spots.
Speaker 2: We do this to everyone, And.
Speaker 3: So again I would ask, I think, I really think.
Speaker 4: I think this is the year.
Speaker 3: I think this is the year where it'll be fair
Speaker 3: if he doesn't get over the hump this year. I
Speaker 3: think he deserves all this criticism, but I think.
Speaker 4: He will everyone.
Speaker 2: I think people get lost. Everyone said that last year.
Speaker 2: Last year, everyone said that's the other.
Speaker 3: Thing that no.
Speaker 2: They last year was Todd Munkin. He's better as a passer.
Speaker 2: They have the best they they have the best evens
Speaker 2: in the league. They have all these things. They're finally
Speaker 2: you know, he's an MVP again. And and there was
Speaker 2: a brief period where after the postseason loss where once
Speaker 2: again for the fourth time and it's four times in
Speaker 2: the postseason, the teams season lowe points was the playoff game.
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, yeah, I guess this is the case.
Speaker 2: And then everyone pretended they didn't do it. And I
Speaker 2: would ask the audience this, you as well, demanse, how
Speaker 2: early in that Steelers Ravens game, was it crystal clear
Speaker 2: to you, oh, we're not getting good Lamar today, Because
Speaker 2: I would say the first quarter wasn't over and it
Speaker 2: was obvious, it was obvious.
Speaker 3: You can see, yeah, you see, you see the difference
Speaker 3: because well because when he's on the other when he's
Speaker 3: on the other Lamar, it's it's very flashy. That's all
Speaker 3: I was saying. I think that I think people just
Speaker 3: get lost in the flash. I don't get lost, and
Speaker 3: I'm realistic. That's why I'm I do think this year
Speaker 3: he has the potential to go the furthest that he's gone,
Speaker 3: and if he doesn't, then I will feed into the Yeah,
Speaker 3: he just can't get through that. That means he's a narrative
Speaker 3: and him and got different things like, I get like,
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott might be having a good season for him,
Speaker 3: but he's not as good of a quarterback as Lamar
Speaker 3: Jackson is.
Speaker 2: Oh no, there's there's no question about that. You're totally right.
Speaker 2: Lamar is a multiple time MVP in a future Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer and Dax's neither. I get that might and
Speaker 2: I guess you can look at it in one of
Speaker 2: two ways. My point is, yet, despite that, it sure
Speaker 2: seems like we hold Dak to the higher standard. Dak's
Speaker 2: got two postseason wins, just like Lamar does, and the
Speaker 2: and in one of them he was actually totally In
Speaker 2: one of his losses, he was brilliant start to finish
Speaker 2: his rookie year. And it's weird to me, like, maybe
Speaker 2: it's true that because Lamar is such a better player,
Speaker 2: he should get more benefited doubt, Yes, that's true. It's
Speaker 2: also true because he's such a better player, it being
Speaker 2: this stark is noteworthy, and I just you can't convince
Speaker 2: me it's a coincidence that the three biggest spots the
Speaker 2: Ravens have on their schedule every year are the three
Speaker 2: biggest spots he struggles in the most. The playoffs, hated
Speaker 2: divisional rival, best team in the conference. It would I
Speaker 2: use this analogy for I'll use it again if Aaron Judge,
Speaker 2: in addition to being awful every year in the postseason,
Speaker 2: was awful every year against the Red Sox, and whenever
Speaker 2: they played the Astros, it would be noteworthy. That's the
Speaker 2: case with Lamar. We saw it again this weekend, and
Speaker 2: for some reason it's a controversial opinion. I don't get it.
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Speaker 2: Slash b ball All right, Demon's eight before we get
Speaker 2: to the game. Let's do Niners Sincy topic go ahead.
Speaker 3: San Francisco and Cincinnati both had some major meltdowns this weekend.
Speaker 3: Each of them has blown three fourth quarter leads this year,
Speaker 3: tied for the most for each team. A few field
Speaker 3: goals or some lucky bounces would have changed the outcome
Speaker 3: of their season or the trajectory there are season so far,
Speaker 3: San Francisco is plus two to make the playoffs, and
Speaker 3: since he's plus three fifty, are you taking either one
Speaker 3: of those?
Speaker 4: These do not tell me you're taking Cincy. You gotta
Speaker 4: walk away from Cincinnati at some.
Speaker 2: Point, So right now I wouldn't take either, but I
Speaker 2: do like Cincey's chances more than San Francisco. So let's
Speaker 2: talk about the Niners for a minute, because I don't
Speaker 2: think people recognize what rough shape they're in because they're
Speaker 2: only one game out of their division. They're five and five,
Speaker 2: same with Seattle and the Rams. Arizona's six and four.
Speaker 2: But they are now in a position we're almost assuredly
Speaker 2: they are going to lose all tie breakers. They They're
Speaker 2: on and one against Arizona, one one against the Rams,
Speaker 2: one and one against Seattle, so the best they could
Speaker 2: hope for is to split with everyone, so they're not
Speaker 2: have any head to head tiebreakers and have a three
Speaker 2: and three divisional record and so that just puts them
Speaker 2: in such rough shape, particularly against the Rams and the Cardinals,
Speaker 2: and so they're gonna need a better record than those teams.
Speaker 2: And the other thing San Francisco is going against it
Speaker 2: is who it has coming up. They are at the Packers,
Speaker 2: then they are at the Bills, then home for the Bears,
Speaker 2: home for the Rams, at the Dolphins, home for the Lions,
Speaker 2: at the Cardinals. So the only the only teams left
Speaker 2: on their schedule that are below five hundred is the
Speaker 2: Bears game and the Dolphins game. Dolphins game, you know,
Speaker 2: on the road against where it's not gonna be cold
Speaker 2: in Miami. So what do we think the Niners max
Speaker 2: out at nine wins go four and three the rest
Speaker 2: of the way Packers, Bills, Bears, Rams, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals,
Speaker 2: and I think someone else like Arizona would need So
Speaker 2: if the again, that would mean Arizona. If the if
Speaker 2: the Niners max out at nine, Arizona has to max
Speaker 2: out at eight, Arizona's got six and two of their
Speaker 2: games left are Patriots Panthers, So that would then mean
Speaker 2: they just need to win one of Seattle twice, the Vikings,
Speaker 2: the Rams, and that Niner game. Like, I just think
Speaker 2: they're in and that's not even talking about the Rams.
Speaker 2: A Rams team that is it five wins, has games
Speaker 2: left against the Saints, Jets, and then tougher games Eagles, Bills,
Speaker 2: the Niner game Cardinal Seahawks. Like I ain't the I
Speaker 2: aink the Niners are cooked and that will lead to
Speaker 2: an interesting do we or do we not pay brock
Speaker 2: Purty question, which we can do at a later show.
Speaker 2: The Bengals, on the other hand, are probably cooked. Thing
Speaker 2: with the Bengals is do I think it's on the
Speaker 2: board that the Broncos and Colts, who are ahead of them,
Speaker 2: you know, go on a five game losing streak at
Speaker 2: any moment. It's possible the Broncos, though, get the Browns
Speaker 2: and the Colts that I'm sorry Raiders, Browns, Cults next
Speaker 2: three weeks. So as long as the Broncos don't fall
Speaker 2: on their face there, they should have a decent cushion
Speaker 2: going into the final three of the season, which is Chargers, Bengals, Chiefs.
Speaker 2: But maybe the Chiefs are resting people there, so the
Speaker 2: Broncos are in really good shape. And then there's the Dolphins,
Speaker 2: who I wouldn't quite right off yet Dolphins all of
Speaker 2: a sudden one two in a row the rest of
Speaker 2: their schedule Patriots, Packers, Jets, Texans, Niners, Browns. Jets get
Speaker 2: the Jets twice, the Browns get the Patriots. That should
Speaker 2: be four wins. How can they do in the Packers, Texans,
Speaker 2: Niners batch? So I wouldn't pick either. I think Cincinnati's
Speaker 2: got a slightly better chance. You can ask.
Speaker 3: Poked at this or hinted at this last week. I
Speaker 3: just want to give myself congratulations Zach Tyler was fired.
Speaker 3: Would Cincinnati be the best best job for somebody like Belichick?
Speaker 2: It, I mean, yes because of Burrow? No, because of ownership.
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's just such bad ownership there. But
Speaker 2: you would have Burrow if you're Belichick, And it's like,
Speaker 2: hey man, I just want to stack these wins, catch
Speaker 2: Shula starting with Burrow and Chase. He builds the defense
Speaker 2: like the offense is already put together. That makes sense,
Speaker 2: But I just think ownership is almost disqualifying for the
Speaker 2: top head coaches. Maybe not, but just I don't think
Speaker 2: Mike Brown's got the best reputation, especially on spending money.
Speaker 3: Is it just is it just cheapness that he has
Speaker 3: that's his biggest flaw. Yeah, yeah, like the Jets. It's
Speaker 3: not just like negligence.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not. I mean, it's it's is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, it's not the worst ownership situation, but it's
Speaker 2: it's the worst ownership situation that doesn't involve like malfeasance
Speaker 2: or just rank incompetence. Right, So like rank in competence
Speaker 2: would be like Jets, Brown's malfeasans would be like what
Speaker 2: Washington used to have with Snyder. But it's right after that,
Speaker 2: so that's fair. All right, let's play the game.
Speaker 3: All right, we were playing this or that today? First off,
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert had some big time throws against since he
Speaker 3: but almost cost the charges of the game with some
Speaker 3: bad ones up. He's in a year five? What's the
Speaker 3: deal with Justin Herbert? Is he elite or do you
Speaker 3: not trust him?
Speaker 2: Oh? I definitely don't trust him. He has elite traits
Speaker 2: and you saw that on display in the first half
Speaker 2: Sunday night when he's just throwing twenty yard lasers, running
Speaker 2: the ball like more than he's done at any point
Speaker 2: in years, and looking totally dynamic, and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden he goes seven of twenty out of nowhere
Speaker 2: has a fumble that could have lost him the game.
Speaker 2: It felt so much like the playoff game against the Jags,
Speaker 2: where he's just unbelievable early and then goes ice cold late,
Speaker 2: except this one the Chargers were able to win. You know,
Speaker 2: I get frush Danny. Danny Parkin's breakfast Ball loves Herbert
Speaker 2: like I think he truly believes. He wouldn't say this,
Speaker 2: but I think he believes Herbert's the second or third
Speaker 2: best quarterback alive. That it's Mahomes Herbert Allen or Mahomes
Speaker 2: Allen Herbert. I mean, he's on the record saying that
Speaker 2: he thinks Herbert has ninety percent of the talent of
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. So think about that. He thinks Mahomes the
Speaker 2: most talented quarterback ever. Herbert's ninety percent of it. And
Speaker 2: I listen, I give Danny a hard time because when
Speaker 2: you're five, like Caleb is ten games into his career.
Speaker 2: So I am still leaning heavily on my college evaluation
Speaker 2: of Caleb Williams because that's the majority of his football career.
Speaker 2: Herbert's in his fifth season and so much of it
Speaker 2: is still leaning heavily on his traits coming out of college.
Speaker 2: So listen, he is an elite talent who hasn't quite
Speaker 2: yet put it all together. He was close to its
Speaker 2: Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry getting into a go ahead real with it.
Speaker 3: What do you think Herbert and the Niners would look like?
Speaker 3: What would that make their chances get Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean they'd be way, way, way better. I
Speaker 2: mean that. Yeah, I mean that for sure with all
Speaker 2: those weapons. But it should be noted. Like, here's the
Speaker 2: other thing that frustrates me out some of the Herbert commentary.
Speaker 2: For years, people were picking the Chargers to win that
Speaker 2: division and be a darker or Super Bowl contender. People
Speaker 2: loved the talent he had four years, and then when
Speaker 2: the team inevitably finished eight nine or nine and eight,
Speaker 2: people would be like, well, what do you want him
Speaker 2: to do? He doesn't have enough talent. But then the
Speaker 2: very next year they'd run it back with the same guys.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, they can win the super Bowl, all right, next.
Speaker 3: The lives of the Super Bowl favorites for now, but
Speaker 3: you have some doubts if they don't win the NFC.
Speaker 3: What's the reason the Lions demises golf or the defense.
Speaker 2: I would think it'd be more likely to be the
Speaker 2: defense because the Angeloni injuries big. They already lost Hutchinson.
Speaker 2: So here's here's the problem. You know what Wild's got
Speaker 2: annoyed with me about yesterday was we were asked the question,
Speaker 2: are the Lions the best team in the NFL? And
Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard what I said, Demon's,
Speaker 2: but you're probably not gonna like it either. You're gonna
Speaker 2: make one of those faces where you're like, oh man,
Speaker 2: that was too harsh, Like you said, like the face
Speaker 2: you made wasn't making fun of Tommy DeVito's agent for
Speaker 2: you know, of doing everything but walking around with a
Speaker 2: sign that said please take a picture with me at
Speaker 2: the Yankee game. So here's what I said about golf
Speaker 2: in the modern NFL. I do not think you can
Speaker 2: be the best team in the NFL, considered the best
Speaker 2: team in the league if you have a civilian at quarterback.
Speaker 2: And the word civilian is what I think annoyed people.
Speaker 2: But by that, what I mean is when the other
Speaker 2: teams you're in the debate with. So the teams in
Speaker 2: the debate for best team in the NFL right now
Speaker 2: are the Chiefs, the Bills and the Lions, And so
Speaker 2: if the other two teams have superheroes at quarterback and
Speaker 2: you have a civilian at quarterback, it doesn't mean you
Speaker 2: can't win the super Bowl. It really doesn't. But it
Speaker 2: does mean you're gonna be fighting uphill in the biggest
Speaker 2: games of the year, because when everything goes wrong, can
Speaker 2: your guy make it right. There's only a handful of
Speaker 2: human beings alive that that applies to, and by the way,
Speaker 2: they might all be in the AFC unless Stafford can
Speaker 2: tap back into Stafford from a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: The NFC doesn't have any superheroes. Jalen's not. Jordan Love
Speaker 2: isn't not yet. Sam Darnold certainly isn't. Kyler wants to,
Speaker 2: but he's not like Purty obviously isn't like So all
Speaker 2: the super superheroes are guys with super hero upside. Mahomes,
Speaker 2: Alan Burrow, Lamar no, not, he's not superhero, you know,
Speaker 2: Herbert All. It's why the Colts drafted Richardson because it's like, man,
Speaker 2: we're in the AFC, we got to go with the
Speaker 2: guy that might be able to be a superhero. And
Speaker 2: some people might say Burrow doesn't qualify because he doesn't
Speaker 2: have the measurables or the traits, but his superpower is
Speaker 2: the accuracy, precision, relationship with chase ability and big moments.
Speaker 2: Like his superpower is closer to like what Brady's was.
Speaker 2: But so I think Detroit's awesome, and I don't. I
Speaker 2: think they've done a great job building a team perfect
Speaker 2: for Jared Goff, and I don't think he's gonna ruin him. Listen,
Speaker 2: I saw brock Perty make the Super Bowl last year
Speaker 2: in the exact perfect circumstance, and they could have won.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying they can't win the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is it's so hard for me to
Speaker 2: say you are actually the favorite, you're actually the best
Speaker 2: team if you don't have one of those guys as
Speaker 2: your signal caller.
Speaker 3: All right, Next, we spent a lot of time making
Speaker 3: fun of Russell Wilson, but he's been great in Pittsburgh's
Speaker 3: been lighted it up over there. Meanwhile, bo Nicks now
Speaker 3: is the second best odds to win Rookie of the
Speaker 3: Year happier with their quarterback Pittsburgh or Denver.
Speaker 2: Oh right now, probably Denver because Knicks has exceeded expectations. Now,
Speaker 2: remember before the year, when we were talking offensive Rookie
Speaker 2: of the Year, I created the category of most likely
Speaker 2: to fool people into thinking he's good, and I said
Speaker 2: bow Nicks was the number one draft pick for that.
Speaker 2: He's your age, demons, he played six years of college football.
Speaker 2: He like just a little context. People think the thing
Speaker 2: I'm joking about bo Nicks. Bow Knicks is three months younger,
Speaker 2: three months younger than Trevor Lawrence. When I say he's
Speaker 2: an old rookie, he's an old rookie, Okay. So the
Speaker 2: he turns twenty five in January, so he had that
Speaker 2: going for him and Sean Payton's offense. So I but
Speaker 2: they're really happy because he has shown such a high
Speaker 2: floor that they feel like, Okay, we have our guy.
Speaker 2: And again, I don't know they there's a little mac
Speaker 2: Jones potential here, not fall off like that, but where
Speaker 2: he is at his full ceiling his rookie season. Russell
Speaker 2: Wilson Man. The fact that the Steelers won that game
Speaker 2: despite Russell playing that way is a testament to their
Speaker 2: coaching and their defense. And that pick in the end
Speaker 2: zone was maybe the worst non Will Levis play of
Speaker 2: the season, so I like as happy as Pittsburgh is
Speaker 2: right now. I think Russ has actually played a touch
Speaker 2: worse in each game of the season so far. Thought
Speaker 2: his best was the Jets, then the Giants so pretty good,
Speaker 2: Washington not great at all, and then the Ravens game,
Speaker 2: I thought he was bad and they won despite it.
Speaker 3: All right, next, both Caleb Williams and Drake May had
Speaker 3: good games despite losses, though, But it seems like people
Speaker 3: are very high on Drake May and hardly noticed Caleb
Speaker 3: Williams Good Weekend, most illusional Caleb's critics or Drake's devotees.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna go with neither, because listen
Speaker 2: the Caleb critics, I think it's been mostly fair. People
Speaker 2: giving up on him are saying the Bears made the
Speaker 2: wrong pick, that's too much. But he hasn't played up
Speaker 2: to the level we would have hoped. And I understand
Speaker 2: why people are excited about Drake May. But this also
Speaker 2: is there's a lot of play here. One is because
Speaker 2: everyone expected and was fine with the Patriots being awful.
Speaker 2: Drake is going out there and just letting it rip,
Speaker 2: which is super fun. He has big plays, he throws
Speaker 2: picks to end games. He makes mistakes, but then he
Speaker 2: makes awesome plays. Because for the Bears, it was like
Speaker 2: we can be a playoff team, we should be good it.
Speaker 2: We haven't gotten that out of Caleb. He has been
Speaker 2: playing a safe, you know brand of football, just don't
Speaker 2: make the big mistake. And and you hate that for
Speaker 2: a rookie. And that's because of the disparate team expectations.
Speaker 2: But the other thing, oh, this last game, so right,
Speaker 2: So here's my hypothesis. I think Shane Waldron, who was
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator, was like, I'm gonna be Caleb's offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator for years. We are going to try, even though
Speaker 2: we might struggle his rookie year, to install big boy
Speaker 2: quarterbacking habits where you're gonna go through all your progressions.
Speaker 2: We know you can run, don't run, stay in the pocket,
Speaker 2: all these things. Meanwhile, the other rookies like Jaden and
Speaker 2: bo a ton of like what there were what Jaden
Speaker 2: when the guy from the Bengals was like, it's a
Speaker 2: real nice college offense. Jaden is running. He wasn't totally wrong.
Speaker 2: What he was saying was Cliff Kingsbury was telling Jaden Daniels,
Speaker 2: look at your first read if it's not there, look
Speaker 2: at your checkdown, and if it's not there, run And
Speaker 2: it worked. First read was open a lot. If not,
Speaker 2: go right to the checkdown. If not, be an athlete.
Speaker 2: Pardon me, for the first time all year, that's what
Speaker 2: the Caleb was coached to do. Look at your first read,
Speaker 2: look at your check down. If it's not their run
Speaker 2: and he ran for seventy yards, got comfortable as the
Speaker 2: game went on. All these things. Now, that's not all
Speaker 2: quarterbacking is, and he's got to develop more. But it
Speaker 2: was a good way to level set him since it
Speaker 2: was going in such a negative reaction. All right, let's
Speaker 2: go to the next one.
Speaker 3: Twelve weeks in and the most impactful free agents of
Speaker 3: the NFL offseason have been running backs Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry,
Speaker 3: even Joe Mixon just lit it up last night. Or
Speaker 3: veteran running backs reshaped our veteran running backs reshaping the position.
Speaker 3: Running backs are worth paying or not essential.
Speaker 2: Well at this point, given how the market has moved
Speaker 2: at this point, I think they might be worth paying
Speaker 2: somewhat so the right if we're talking six to eight
Speaker 2: million bucks, when you know wide receiver three goes for
Speaker 2: ten million. Yeah, the now it's you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Now we've kind of flipped. Like the Chief signed Hollywood
Speaker 2: Brown for six million dollars is an ex you know,
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry makes eight. So like, I do think there
Speaker 2: is a level of where the market has moved enough
Speaker 2: to where you'd consider it. I still think you can
Speaker 2: find them in the draft. But if what you can't
Speaker 2: do is what the Cowboys did, not spend money on
Speaker 2: one and not identify somebody in the draft you really like?
Speaker 2: All right, last one?
Speaker 3: Demonsey, your rival Mina Khim suggests that you get on
Speaker 3: Blue Sky. It seems like people are threatening to leave
Speaker 3: X in waves, but we haven't seen the shift yet.
Speaker 4: Get Nick right on X. Are you staying? Are you going?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm staying. But I also did sign up. I
Speaker 2: had signed up Evidently I didn't realize it for Blue
Speaker 2: Sky years ago because it said I already had an
Speaker 2: account and it was at Gettingick right, and I'm trying
Speaker 2: to post somewhat on both places. Let me see how
Speaker 2: the So what I didn't want to do is I
Speaker 2: don't like the announcement, like I'm using this social media now,
Speaker 2: But also how then do you get people to know
Speaker 2: you're on there if you don't do that. So I'm
Speaker 2: not really sure, Listen, I'm not I'm not gonna act
Speaker 2: like I'm leaving Twitter based on like principled grounds. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe I should, maybe I shouldn't, but it's where, you know,
Speaker 2: I've got six seven hundred thousand people. It's a good
Speaker 2: way to get a message out still, even though the
Speaker 2: for utab is a hellscape like just follow who you follow,
Speaker 2: So I'm still using that, but I'm trying to you know,
Speaker 2: I'll try to put stuff on Blue Sky as well,
Speaker 2: because it does seem like some people left. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's I don't know that
Speaker 2: the percentage of it, but some people left. So we'll
Speaker 2: try to post on both. That's the short version. All right,
Speaker 2: let me answer some listener take quick break answers, some
Speaker 2: listener questions. Next we'll right, all right, welcome back in.
Speaker 2: What's right with Nick? Right, demand, let's do some listener questions.
Speaker 3: Uh splash his own, Nick, Uh, I beseech you and
Speaker 3: implore you as you enter your bachelor phase on first things.
Speaker 4: First, consider the rams.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm more than considering the rams. I've got a
Speaker 2: trip scheduled to Los Angeles next week. Actually to you know,
Speaker 2: to see this Rams to the Super Bowl, take up
Speaker 2: close and in person. No, the Rams are on the
Speaker 2: short list. Rams are on the list, Eagles are on
Speaker 2: the list, Lions are on the list. Those right now
Speaker 2: are the three leading contenders for my NFC Super Bowl picks.
Speaker 2: So don't you worry about that. Read tomorrow. Butler's question
Speaker 2: demanse and I just want to tell the audience this
Speaker 2: is sent in all caps, so everything go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yes, this isn't all caps Toamar, Butler says Nick. Lamar
Speaker 3: didn't fumble two times, Lamar did miss two field goals.
Speaker 3: Lamar didn't get the ball ripped out of his hands,
Speaker 3: and Lamar wasn't getting penalties to start drives first and twenty.
Speaker 2: Did Lamar play well, Damar? Or did he complete forty
Speaker 2: five percent of his passes? Like, listen, you're right, other
Speaker 2: guys also made mistakes, But even if they had justin
Speaker 2: Ducker and made his field goals, it wouldn't change fact.
Speaker 2: Lamar played really poorly, and that's just not up for debate.
Speaker 2: And we can continue to make these excuses, but this
Speaker 2: is a it's a tough bridge when it's like they
Speaker 2: lost the game and he played poorly, But you would
Speaker 2: like me to create a scenario where they didn't lose
Speaker 2: the game because one of those things didn't happen and
Speaker 2: he didn't play poorly. Well, there's a lot of scenarios
Speaker 2: we could create that are totally fictitious. This was not
Speaker 2: a scenario. This was not the Bengals Ravens games where
Speaker 2: both quarterbacks played great and someone had to lose. This
Speaker 2: was actually the opposite. Both quarterbacks played poorly and someone
Speaker 2: had to win. And after the Russell interception when the
Speaker 2: you got a gift and it was Ravens down five
Speaker 2: with the ball, go make a play, MVP. That's all,
Speaker 2: Go make a play, all right, Let's keep moving.
Speaker 3: Sorry, DeMar no oder Ariguaez. The Sixers are two and eleven.
Speaker 3: Should embid try to get out of Philly, and emb.
Speaker 2: Should try to play like an MVP and be available,
Speaker 2: like I mean, the the you know, the the call
Speaker 2: is coming from inside the house as far as Joel
Speaker 2: Embi and the reasoning, Philly is struggling. So that's like,
Speaker 2: there's not gonna be a lot of situations where and
Speaker 2: I know guys have dealt with injuries, but better than
Speaker 2: Maxie and George. Figure it out, make it work. There's
Speaker 2: nobody's running right away with the bottom of the Eastern
Speaker 2: Conference playoffs spot, She's still got plenty of time.
Speaker 3: Next Uh, Danny Tanner. Is JJ Redick a legit head coach?
Speaker 3: Or is it more fair to say that Darvin Ham
Speaker 3: was over his skis both?
Speaker 2: I mean, JJ Reddick is a legit head coach, ex's
Speaker 2: and O's wise. I wonder how the softer coach skills
Speaker 2: he's gonna do well with and but Darvin Ham was
Speaker 2: also clueless, all right?
Speaker 3: Next one, Scott Frasier Nick, I if Nick, if Cousins
Speaker 3: keeps playing this bad, should the Falcon start?
Speaker 2: Pinnis Uh, not yet, but let's see if it continues
Speaker 2: like they're still in first in the division, and there's
Speaker 2: you know, they see if it stabilizes. But the last
Speaker 2: few weeks Cousins has looked really, really shaky. Rene Matta
Speaker 2: asked me, when does the poker tournament come on? Not
Speaker 2: for a few months, so I'll let you guys know. Uh.
Speaker 2: And Tommy DeVito's agent evidently says I'm welcome for a photo.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's actually his agent. That's this isn't
Speaker 2: actually obviously, but that is Deman's. That is what he
Speaker 2: was wearing one of the two games that I was at,
Speaker 2: an iridescent glowing Yankees coat and that hat. And I'm
Speaker 2: here to tell you of the two days he was
Speaker 2: getting that, I saw that I was two Yankee games.
Speaker 2: Of that games four and five, this was the least
Speaker 2: the less ostentatious of the two looks. I'm not making
Speaker 2: it up, guys.
Speaker 3: When I saw him in like green it was like
Speaker 3: a green blazer or something, and like the soup pants
Speaker 3: and he had on like some Jordan elevens or something
Speaker 3: that one I thought was called might have been different
Speaker 3: different venues, but.
Speaker 2: The I mean, I yeah, I listen nobody. And it
Speaker 2: was also I know, it's not I don't like the guy.
Speaker 2: I didn't say I don't like the guy. Let's not
Speaker 2: do that. I'm just telling you it was interesting to
Speaker 2: watch someone like take laps and dart their eyes around
Speaker 2: like if anyone noticed me, anyone got their phone out,
Speaker 2: anyone want to quick snap a quick pick? All right,
Speaker 2: see you guys on the herd. And on first things first, Sorry,
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