WEBVTT - MNF Reaction, Chiefs Lose to Bills & Lamar Loses to Pitt (again)

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Man, What Dry with Nick? Great Episode two seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 2>Fresh off a not that intriguing Monday night football game,

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<v Speaker 2>a great though, Week eleven in the NFL was it yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Week eleven in the NFL one o'clock Steelers Ravens delivered

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<v Speaker 2>four point thirty Chiefs Bills delivered, even though if it

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<v Speaker 2>made me sad, and then Sunday Night football looked like

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<v Speaker 2>we were gonna get a laugher turned into a hell

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<v Speaker 2>of a game. There's a great week into football, except for,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, for me gambling. This was my first awful

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<v Speaker 2>weekend of the year. It's a kind of a double

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<v Speaker 2>edged sword, Demanse. It was I did poorly against the spread,

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<v Speaker 2>and I did poorly against the spread in the early games,

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<v Speaker 2>and then had my you know, get back all your money.

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs are underdogs by five and a half minutes into

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<v Speaker 2>Bill's Chiefs Firefire Fire on the Chiefs live money line

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<v Speaker 2>didn't work out, you know, sometimes it'd be like that.

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<v Speaker 2>What I should have just done is what everyone should

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<v Speaker 2>do for football gambling this year is make one bet

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<v Speaker 2>a week. Demand's teaser, which was, I truly believe the

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<v Speaker 2>only Chiefs related teaser in America that hit because everyone

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<v Speaker 2>had them getting eight or eight and a half. You

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<v Speaker 2>with your seven and a half pointers got him in

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<v Speaker 2>right under the wire.

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<v Speaker 3>So lose my nine.

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<v Speaker 2>You got him plus ten. I know the and the

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the Steelers leg of it won because they won outright.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll get to all of that do Monday Night

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<v Speaker 2>football first, though, Here's what missed the cut. The Tyson

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<v Speaker 2>Paul fight not great. Tommy DeVito is back with the Giants,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Jets are so bad they're not even I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think in the show. Here's my only Tommy DeVito

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<v Speaker 2>anecdote at the World Series, his agent was walking around

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<v Speaker 2>like throughout the entirety of these games, and I've never

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<v Speaker 2>in my life seen someone more eager for people to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, are you such and such? Can we

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<v Speaker 2>take a picture? Like it was. His eagerness of people

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<v Speaker 2>asking him for pictures could only be topped by the

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<v Speaker 2>folks who dress up like superheroes in Times Square and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how they make their living. Like, I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>anything like it, and so more power to him. Good

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<v Speaker 2>for him, man, But Tommy Deviato back in the league,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean below the belt? What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>He's a publica a real flame right there?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, yeah, I hope it doesn't get back to him.

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness, he's gonna throw his Riddler hat at me

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be cooked, all right, Toman say, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to the show. Oh man, oh man, go ahead. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So last night the Texans demolished the Cowboys. It was

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<v Speaker 3>looking pretty bad, and it actually started to look good

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<v Speaker 3>there for a second, looked like we had a game

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<v Speaker 3>and then they had one of the more embarrassing turnovers

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<v Speaker 3>of the season. But the big story here isn't the

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<v Speaker 3>Texans the Cowboys and how demoralize they look on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 3>It just looked like they had quit on the season.

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<v Speaker 3>You had all those players going down.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I so real quick. I want to say

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<v Speaker 2>something when this game looked like it could briefly be

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<v Speaker 2>a game, And I thought about tweeting about this last night,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was like, eh, I'll just explain it

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<v Speaker 2>on the pod and we'll move on. I really disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with Mike McCarthy's decision to take that sixty four yard

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<v Speaker 2>field goal off the board. And I understand people's gut instinct,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, well, hold on. When the drive started, the

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<v Speaker 2>goal was a touchdown. You have an opportunity because of

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<v Speaker 2>the penalty to get first, have first and ten from

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty one yard line. You'll still be able to

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<v Speaker 2>kick a field goal in all likelihood if you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you? Why would you think he made the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong decision? And this is to me kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>the poker gambling part of my brain. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>the I think you have to look at all these

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<v Speaker 2>situations demands of not all of them. But let me

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<v Speaker 2>rephrase it. One way to look at it is, what

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<v Speaker 2>are my expected points from this moment of this possession.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you've made the sixty four yard field goal,

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<v Speaker 2>that is done. It's no longer a question will you

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<v Speaker 2>make or miss the kick? You know what the value

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<v Speaker 2>of that is. It's exactly three points. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>the value of three points and the clock being where

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<v Speaker 2>it is. What do you think the expected value for

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<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Cowboys with Cooper Rush at quarterback is first

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<v Speaker 2>and ten from the Texans thirty one yard line. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's much more than three. Like the way

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<v Speaker 2>you would do the math is, what's the percentage chance

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<v Speaker 2>they get a touchdown, what's the percentage chance they make

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<v Speaker 2>a field goal on this possession, what's the percentage chance

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<v Speaker 2>they miss a field goal? And what's the percentage chance

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<v Speaker 2>they turn it over either on downs, pick whatever? And

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<v Speaker 2>multiply all of those percentages by the points associated with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Zero with a turnover, zero with a missed field goal,

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<v Speaker 2>three with a made field goal, seven with a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>And you do it, man, I mean just back of

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<v Speaker 2>the napkin math I feel like is and we can

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<v Speaker 2>do this in real time. What are they to get

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<v Speaker 2>a touchdown there? First and ten from the thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's less than twenty percent. I honestly do.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's call call it twenty percent, okay, twenty times

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<v Speaker 2>seven points. So for that little bucket, you have one

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<v Speaker 2>point four points. What's the odds of them turning the

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<v Speaker 2>ball over? Either uh, turnover or they go for it

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<v Speaker 2>on fourth down and don't get it. I honestly it

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<v Speaker 2>felt to me in real time like thirty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, and that like one in three. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, you know, So let's just call it

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five percent. So that leaves forty five percent chance

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<v Speaker 2>you kick the field goal and make it. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>say Aubrey is almost guaranteed there, but that's five percent

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<v Speaker 2>chance he misses it, forty percent chance you kick the

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<v Speaker 2>field goal and make it. So now we've got forty

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<v Speaker 2>percent times three. That's one point two expected points. We

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<v Speaker 2>already had the one point four expected points. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're you're expected value from declining that penalty is

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half points and you're guaranteed the like.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just wouldn't have done it. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>think you've got the context of Cooper Rushes, my quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have done it, and the added context of

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<v Speaker 2>and this is kind of the fuzzy math demnse Houston

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<v Speaker 2>blew a huge lead last week. They didn't expect this

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<v Speaker 2>to be a dog fight. Now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>midway through the third quarter, it's a one score game,

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<v Speaker 2>like all those things. So I thought it was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>For if you have a real quarterback, then you turn

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<v Speaker 2>that down. I totally get it. But when Cooper rushes

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<v Speaker 2>your quarterback and you can, you've locked in three points

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<v Speaker 2>and you're only gonna be at the thirty one, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's not why they lost.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that is. No. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was a glaring mistake. If we're done with him between

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<v Speaker 2>two point six and three, like in my back of

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<v Speaker 2>them met Napkin math, all of it. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's gut, all of my analytically inclined friends, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the gut is, oh, he did the right thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying I actually think in the context of this

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<v Speaker 2>football game, with Cooper Rush as the quarterback, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the right call. Normally, if you can get a first down,

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<v Speaker 2>you take the first down. But this was a unique

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<v Speaker 2>spot where it was such a long field goal. The

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen yards doesn't from the line of scrimmage, doesn't actually

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<v Speaker 2>put you, like even in the red zone. And the

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<v Speaker 2>offense has been so shaky. Now as far as the

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys like this, and this is why Jerry keeps giving

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<v Speaker 2>longer and longer interviews, and this is why he seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be flailing. He built a terrible team. That's the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is Jerry Jones is in a position now.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand Dak is now hurt, but they were really

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<v Speaker 2>bad when Dak was out there. They built a team

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<v Speaker 2>where you have three guys who are Dak is paid

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<v Speaker 2>like a superstar, and he's you know, good to really

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<v Speaker 2>good at times. Seedee Lamb is paid like a superstar.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a superstar. Mike is cheap, but he is

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<v Speaker 2>a superstar. But the rest of your team has almost

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<v Speaker 2>no redeeming qualities. Your offensive line is mediocre, You have

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<v Speaker 2>the worst running game in football. Your wide receivers after

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<v Speaker 2>Ceedee Lamb are nothing noteworthy. Your the rest of your

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<v Speaker 2>defense you get run on. Your secondary is probably a

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<v Speaker 2>little overpaid. Your you're just now you've been dealing with injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, but this this is a more than

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<v Speaker 2>it's a Mike McCarthy issue. It's a Jerry Jones issue.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know there's a lot of buzz about oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Dion Sanders or the Cowboys doing something exotic. Man, they

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<v Speaker 2>should beg Mike for Able to come there and create

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<v Speaker 2>a real football program and block out as much of

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<v Speaker 2>the Jerry Jones nonsense as he can and build a

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<v Speaker 2>team that's good up front on both sides of the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>and hope then your star power of Dak and CD

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<v Speaker 2>can push over the top. But this whole, all these

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<v Speaker 2>the folks being like hired Dion or draft a quarterback. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>they made their commitment to Dak, like Dak is the

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys quarterback the next few years. You're not spending your

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<v Speaker 2>top ten pick. If they had not signed Dak as

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<v Speaker 2>all summer long demons, I said, hold your water, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they were going to. Then they're in a

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<v Speaker 2>unique spot. You have a top ten pick, maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>top five picking, draft your quarterback, reset the rookie QB

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<v Speaker 2>salary scale, Pay Mica, PAYCD. You're not paying your rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that becomes a much more attractive job because

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<v Speaker 2>the upside grow with the rookie quarterback, but they paid

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<v Speaker 2>Dak so this idea they're gonna draft Shador or anybody

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<v Speaker 2>and then trade Deck. He has a no trade clause.

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<v Speaker 2>The contract hasn't even started yet. The contract they signed

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<v Speaker 2>him to kicks in next year, so they're just stuck

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<v Speaker 2>where they are. All right, now, let's go to teams

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<v Speaker 2>that wait. Oh one other thing. Houston probably not good

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<v Speaker 2>enough to win more than one playoff game. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>okay like that. I know that's frustrating because that's where

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<v Speaker 2>they were last year. But they are. Maybe it's the injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's the natural you know, schedule got tougher, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't sneak up on anybody, all that stuff, but they

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<v Speaker 2>are a just really hope not to be one and

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<v Speaker 2>done playoff team because Demons, their first round playoff game

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<v Speaker 2>is overwhelmingly likely either going to be Baltimore or the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about you. I like both those teams

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<v Speaker 2>right now more than Houston. Like, I know Baltimore, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying even the Chargers like the right now. I

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<v Speaker 2>think the Chargers are so much stronger upfront than Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Like so that's but so Houston's gonna be in a

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<v Speaker 2>rough spot in their Assuming they hold off the Colts,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think they will, they're gonna be in a

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<v Speaker 2>rough spot in the first round. But the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be a conference championship game contender or a

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl contender, as a lot of people had them,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're there yet. And there's no shame

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<v Speaker 2>in that, but I just don't think they're there yet.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, demonse, Let's go on to the you know

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<v Speaker 2>the game everyone wants to hear me be sad about.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So you're a Chiefs lost to the Bills this weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>lost their first game, and it was probably for the best.

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<v Speaker 4>You were saying that they needed to get that loss

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<v Speaker 4>out of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>You predicted that the Bills would look impressive and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even win. You also said two things on TV that

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<v Speaker 3>you're not worried about Mahomes and that Buffalo has better

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<v Speaker 3>weapons and protection than years past. Do you fear that

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<v Speaker 3>there's a possibility that Buffalo is better than Kansas City?

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<v Speaker 3>Comes to January February or January? Should I say nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? So couple things. One is I didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo had better weapons than yours past. They have a bet,

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<v Speaker 2>but they do have a better offensive line and defensive

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<v Speaker 2>line than yours past. The Bills right now have the

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<v Speaker 2>best offensive line Josh has ever had, the best defensive

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<v Speaker 2>line Josh has ever had, and Josh is playing the

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<v Speaker 2>best he's ever played. And so am I worried. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not worried in the traditional sense like it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if they play in the playoff, the Chiefs are better

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<v Speaker 2>than them that game almost as you know. The Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>now still have some work to do to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that game's in Arrowhead, but they proved last year they

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<v Speaker 2>can win in Buffalo in the playoffs, and they're still

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<v Speaker 2>a huge favorite for it to be in Arrowhead. If

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<v Speaker 2>things hold the way they're going. In order to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the Chiefs, the Bills will have had to play

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<v Speaker 2>a wild card game that'll be annoying, and then a

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<v Speaker 2>Round two game either against Pittsburgh, Baltimore, the Chargers one

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<v Speaker 2>of those teams, and you know the kind of back

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<v Speaker 2>to back physical wars. Baltimore wouldn't so much be physical,

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<v Speaker 2>but Pittsburgh or the Chargers would be. So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the Chiefs are still in a very, very advantageous position. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I if you were to ask me in the AFC

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<v Speaker 2>the team I would least like to play, Like, if

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<v Speaker 2>I have to make the list of like your wish

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<v Speaker 2>list of playoff opponents, Buffalo's the team I would least

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<v Speaker 2>like to play. I like. For me, the power rankings

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<v Speaker 2>of least want to play in the AFC in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs is Buffalo one with a bullet the Steelers two.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that sounds ridiculous because Russ and my

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<v Speaker 2>feelings on him, but the Chiefs tackle situation is right

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<v Speaker 2>now in is so shaky that you do worry the

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<v Speaker 2>team with the best edge rusher in the league, TJ. Watt,

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<v Speaker 2>and then great guys alongside him on the d line

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<v Speaker 2>that that by itself could just ruin the game. So

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers would be two, the Chargers would be three,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Baltimore. And we can talk more about Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>in a minute, but like I, Buffalo is clearly number

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<v Speaker 2>one as far as Kansas City and not being worried

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<v Speaker 2>like I do think there is a benefit to not

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<v Speaker 2>having the undefeated season kind of build pressure momentum. However

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<v Speaker 2>they do because it was the Bills game they lost

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't have the tiebreaker they do now have

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<v Speaker 2>work to do. The benefit that I was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>on TV is an addition to the undefeated season thing there.

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<v Speaker 2>Romo said it at the end of the game. It

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<v Speaker 2>would have been weird. It might have been, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one of them good problems like Marlow's. Stanfield would say.

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<v Speaker 2>But I to lock up the one seed with seven

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<v Speaker 2>games left, do you then run the risk that that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you play essentially meaningless games from mid November

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<v Speaker 2>until the playoffs start for you in mid January. That

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<v Speaker 2>would be a little It would be unprecedented the very

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<v Speaker 2>it would be odd. So I do think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>benefit there, But I also think the Chiefs need to

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<v Speaker 2>tighten a few things up, like Mahomes. Mahomes needs to

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<v Speaker 2>play better early in these games. And I understand the

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<v Speaker 2>team not looking as sharp early in games. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>what they're trying to do as far as work on

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<v Speaker 2>different things, try different things out during games that they

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<v Speaker 2>can then figure out what they do or don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to use in games that actually matter. But Mahomes is

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<v Speaker 2>just not so sharp early and then late, like in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter, early the Bills go up at by nine,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden it's like, oh, there's the

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs playoff offense, just a surgical right down the field touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>But they dug themselves too big of a hole to

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<v Speaker 2>where despite that touchdown, they still it needed the defense

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<v Speaker 2>to get a stop in order for them to have

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to win, and the defense got love them

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<v Speaker 2>had their first He's talking about the first player.

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<v Speaker 4>The last, the first pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. That was that set the tone for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs for playing catch up the whole game, like

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<v Speaker 2>the game was being played on Buffalo's terms from that,

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<v Speaker 2>And he's done that a few times this year, so

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<v Speaker 2>like it. Listen, he's the best. In my I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he's the greatest player in the history of the league.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he has earned more benefit of the doubt than

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<v Speaker 2>any player I've ever seen as far as Oh, even

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<v Speaker 2>if he he and the offense look bad for big

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<v Speaker 2>portions of the season like they did last year, come

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<v Speaker 2>to the playoffs, they're gonna play perfect football, just perfect,

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<v Speaker 2>no mistakes. But they're those things do need to tighten up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he and Xavier they're getting closer, Like Xavier's

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<v Speaker 2>got to do a better job dragging his feet, but

0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Patrick also has to do a job hitting him in stride.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're working on that, and so I'm not I

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<v Speaker 2>still believe the Chiefs are the best team in the

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<v Speaker 2>league with a bullet and they're about to get Pa

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<v Speaker 2>Chacko back and then they get Charles A. Mine Who

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<v Speaker 2>back and then we'll see about Hollywood Brown by the

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<v Speaker 2>very end of the year. So they're adding pieces rather

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<v Speaker 2>than losing pieces. But the tackle position, the left tackle

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<v Speaker 2>spot's got to get better, and I would think they

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<v Speaker 2>might call Donovan Smith, who was their left tackle last

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<v Speaker 2>year and is semi retired but has said he's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's ready. If the Chiefs call and listen, they're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be rotating guys at the number two corner

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<v Speaker 2>position because Jalen Watson broke his ankle. It's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most important injuries for the Chiefs all year, and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have someone to fill that role right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am I worried about the Bills. No, are

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<v Speaker 2>the Bills the scariest team in the AFC UH for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs to play, yes, go ahead, demonse.

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<v Speaker 3>Well after Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Do you think that the

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City Buffalo rivalry is the biggest current rivalry of

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<v Speaker 3>the era?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's weird to have a rivalry where

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<v Speaker 2>it's not your divisional opponent, but they play literally every

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<v Speaker 2>year in the regular season because they both win their

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<v Speaker 2>division every year, and they play most years in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I would say it's the best ride. Like

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<v Speaker 2>Baltimore Pittsburgh just has the history. All the games are great,

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<v Speaker 2>they played twice a year. But yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City Buffalo is the better rivalry right now. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's just happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the stakes are higher, it feels like, but Baltimore Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just because it's twice the year and they're

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<v Speaker 2>so hated to histor it. Yeah, that's fair, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the hit me with the other follow ups.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So Detroit, they have the best odds to win

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<v Speaker 3>the Super Bowl right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that's fair?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Kansas City should be a prohibitive favorite, but

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that I think more highly of the Chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>than Vegas as that's fine. But the other reason Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>has the odds it does is right now, there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>not a bunch of teams in the NFC, Vegas believes

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<v Speaker 2>in like they desperately want to believe in the Niners.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Nighters are in last place in their division

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<v Speaker 2>and now one in three in the division and an

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<v Speaker 2>underdog to make the playoffs. So the Niners, you know

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<v Speaker 2>they're in, They're in rough shape. The Packers haven't looked

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<v Speaker 2>as impressive as people maybe would have hoped. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>really like after Detroit, unless you really believe in the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is hard to do, it's just the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think those odds are reflected on that. There's

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<v Speaker 2>the is so much less top heavy than the AFC.

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<v Speaker 2>The NFC is better in the middle, Like the fight

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<v Speaker 2>for the seventh seed in the NFC is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>good teams involved in it, and the fight for the

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<v Speaker 2>seventh seed in the AFC eight and nine might end

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<v Speaker 2>up winning it. Like, I mean, that's gonna be really

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<v Speaker 2>a stark difference. But at the top, the AFC is

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<v Speaker 2>so much better. I think that's what I think. That

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<v Speaker 2>is what the odds are reflecting there. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>move on to Lamar.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Baltimore dropped a winnable game against the Steelers

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend. Lamar has now lost eight of nine games.

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<v Speaker 4>Against the Steelers. He cannot get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>So Lamar are either seeds to set it on fire

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<v Speaker 3>or just forget how to play football? Is Lamar more

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<v Speaker 3>limited than we are thinking? Or do you think that

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<v Speaker 3>he gets more blame for Justin Tucker missing field goals?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, so first let me be fair to Lamar

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<v Speaker 2>because he didn't start all those games. He's Lamar is

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<v Speaker 2>now one in five against Pittsburgh and his crew, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's not quite as bad as eight and nine, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's obviously not great. He and so he's missed some

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<v Speaker 2>games and that that it's shocking. He's only beaten the

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<v Speaker 2>Ravens the one time. But I go ahead, Demansey, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a small correction.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't I do. I'm curious here what you what

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<v Speaker 3>you want to say now? Because you told me to

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<v Speaker 3>jump in and say something. What do you have to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it's everybody. I don't know why it

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<v Speaker 2>is a controversial opinion that the bigger the game, the

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<v Speaker 2>worst Lamar plays, because it's not an opinion, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the facts, and it is so weird that it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm out here on an island on this opinion

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:10.439
<v Speaker 2>when it is so factually irrefutable, And it just really

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<v Speaker 2>seems to me, and I hate to do this, but

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<v Speaker 2>that the media is just playing favorites and not saying

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<v Speaker 2>about Lamar what we have no problem saying about athletes

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<v Speaker 2>across all sports that check the box of MVP caliber

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:38.479
<v Speaker 2>guy in the regular season, who in the postseason and

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<v Speaker 2>in the biggest regular season moments is a totally different player.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole media was in Unison on James Harden when

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 2>he was a superstar, but this applied to him. The

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<v Speaker 2>whole media last year was in Unison on Joel Embiid

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 2>when this applied to him. The whole media was in

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<v Speaker 2>Unice on Aaron Judge a month ago when this applied

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<v Speaker 2>to him. But when you have a player such as

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Lamar Jackson who we know struggles massively in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>you then extrapolate it to, oh, what's the team in

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season, the one team he struggles against the

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<v Speaker 2>absolute most statistically and from a win loss record, And

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<v Speaker 2>the answer is, oh, his hated divisional rival. And then

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, Okay, what's the only other team. He actually

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:40.120
<v Speaker 2>really struggles with camp beat and has a terrible statistical

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 2>record and it's oh the reigning dynasty of his era.

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<v Speaker 2>But in every other circumstance he is statistically speaking, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the greatest players in the history of his sport.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a word for that in sports. It's not

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 2>a nice word, but it's a word we use on

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 2>every athlete applies to It's called choking, getting tight the

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:08.919
<v Speaker 2>moment's a little too big. And we did this to

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Peyton Manning because Peyton struggled in the playoffs, couldn't play,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't play well against the Patriots. We did it to

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<v Speaker 2>Peyton Manning for the first eight years of his career

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<v Speaker 2>until he finally got over the hump, and his postseason

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 2>resume was not as checkered as Lamar's and his success.

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<v Speaker 2>And for some reason, when it comes to Lamar, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an asshole. The guy has a career one ten passer

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<v Speaker 2>rating while winning eighty percent of his games and a

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>three to one touchdown interception ratio in every situation there

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 2>is except for playoffs, Chiefs Steelers, and in those three

0:27:56.080 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 2>circumstances he wins twenty five percent of his game, has

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>a seventy five rating and has more turnovers than touchdowns.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 2>And people want to say it's coincidence. It's nothing about

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 2>him type. It's not that he tightens up in big spots.

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>It's not that all of a sudden he misses open passes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just bad luck. I I it is the most.

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<v Speaker 3>More meeting with Lamar Jackson as it's the coaches. It's

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.479
<v Speaker 3>the coaching, and the more you see Labar Jackson, the

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 3>better you are at stopping him. And I don't think

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 3>it's any coincidence that the person it is the best coaching.

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Except listen, except he's ten and two against the Bengals.

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 2>He actually hasn't seen the Steelers that much because he's

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 2>missed so many games. He does well against the Browns

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 2>at like, guys, it is a it is a direct,

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<v Speaker 2>a direct inverse correlation for Lamar between how big the

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 2>game is and his performance in it. What is Lamar

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>is twenty three to one with stats that are truly

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 2>not to be believed in what circumstances? The non conference

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>games the least important games on your schedule, like I

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>don't I And here's the other thing that is frustrating

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>about the Lamar discourse. And this is where I think

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>there is true hypocrisy. Every time the Ravens crush this year,

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>every week the storyline has been look at Lamar Jackson's numbers.

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 2>He's having one of the greatest quarterbacking seasons ever, twenty

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>two touchdowns, two picks, the highest rating in the history

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 2>of the league. He's going to be a three time MVP.

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>After one of those wins, John Harbaugh was asked how

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>they did it, and he literally said, and I quote, well,

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>it started with Lamar, and it ended with Lamar, and

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of Lamar in between. But aside

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>from Lamar and Lamar Lamar, the other guys played. Well

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>that's what the head coach said. So when they win,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>that's the narrative, and every time they lose, this is

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>the conversation. Why didn't they hand the ball to Derek

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Henry Moore. It's like, well, I don't know, because we're

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>throwing a preemptive parade for the presumptive MVP. You're not

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>allowed to have the opinion. You're not allowed to have

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>these two opinions simultaneously. Going into last week, Lamar Jackson

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 2>was the league's MVP and Baltimore made a mistake by

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 2>putting the ball in Lamar Jackson's hands. You can't have

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>both those opinions. You got to pick one. And so yeah,

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 2>the Lamar discourse frustrates me because I don't think people

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 2>are being honest and I think they know it. I

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>think they know that this is I don't even have

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 2>to go to his treatom on. It is exact what

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 2>was said about Dak Prescott last season. Oh yeah, he's

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>having an MVP gliber season to having the best season

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>of his career. Great player, but we don't trust him

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 2>from the postseason. We don't trust him in the biggest spots.

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>We do this to everyone, And.

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 3>So again I would ask, I think, I really think.

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 4>I think this is the year.

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I think this is the year where it'll be fair

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 3>if he doesn't get over the hump this year. I

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 3>think he deserves all this criticism, but I think.

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 4>He will everyone.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>I think people get lost. Everyone said that last year.

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Last year, everyone said that's the other.

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Thing that no.

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>They last year was Todd Munkin. He's better as a passer.

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 2>They have the best they they have the best evens

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>in the league. They have all these things. They're finally

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's an MVP again. And and there was

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>a brief period where after the postseason loss where once

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>again for the fourth time and it's four times in

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the postseason, the teams season lowe points was the playoff game.

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's like, oh, yeah, I guess this is the case.

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 2>And then everyone pretended they didn't do it. And I

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>would ask the audience this, you as well, demanse, how

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>early in that Steelers Ravens game, was it crystal clear

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 2>to you, oh, we're not getting good Lamar today, Because

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I would say the first quarter wasn't over and it

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>was obvious, it was obvious.

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 3>You can see, yeah, you see, you see the difference

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 3>because well because when he's on the other when he's

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 3>on the other Lamar, it's it's very flashy. That's all

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 3>I was saying. I think that I think people just

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 3>get lost in the flash. I don't get lost, and

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm realistic. That's why I'm I do think this year

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 3>he has the potential to go the furthest that he's gone,

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 3>and if he doesn't, then I will feed into the Yeah,

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 3>he just can't get through that. That means he's a narrative

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 3>and him and got different things like, I get like,

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Dak Prescott might be having a good season for him,

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 3>but he's not as good of a quarterback as Lamar

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Jackson is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, there's there's no question about that. You're totally right.

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Lamar is a multiple time MVP in a future Hall

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of Famer and Dax's neither. I get that might and

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess you can look at it in one of

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 2>two ways. My point is, yet, despite that, it sure

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 2>seems like we hold Dak to the higher standard. Dak's

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 2>got two postseason wins, just like Lamar does, and the

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>and in one of them he was actually totally In

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 2>one of his losses, he was brilliant start to finish

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>his rookie year. And it's weird to me, like, maybe

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 2>it's true that because Lamar is such a better player,

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 2>he should get more benefited doubt, Yes, that's true. It's

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>also true because he's such a better player, it being

0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 2>this stark is noteworthy, and I just you can't convince

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>me it's a coincidence that the three biggest spots the

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Ravens have on their schedule every year are the three

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:13.240
<v Speaker 2>biggest spots he struggles in the most. The playoffs, hated

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 2>divisional rival, best team in the conference. It would I

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 2>use this analogy for I'll use it again if Aaron Judge,

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 2>in addition to being awful every year in the postseason,

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 2>was awful every year against the Red Sox, and whenever

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>they played the Astros, it would be noteworthy. That's the

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.839
<v Speaker 2>case with Lamar. We saw it again this weekend, and

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>for some reason it's a controversial opinion. I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Slash b ball All right, Demon's eight before we get

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<v Speaker 2>to the game. Let's do Niners Sincy topic go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>San Francisco and Cincinnati both had some major meltdowns this weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Each of them has blown three fourth quarter leads this year,

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<v Speaker 3>tied for the most for each team. A few field

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 3>goals or some lucky bounces would have changed the outcome

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 3>of their season or the trajectory there are season so far,

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 3>San Francisco is plus two to make the playoffs, and

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<v Speaker 3>since he's plus three fifty, are you taking either one

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 3>of those?

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 4>These do not tell me you're taking Cincy. You gotta

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 4>walk away from Cincinnati at some.

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Point, So right now I wouldn't take either, but I

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>do like Cincey's chances more than San Francisco. So let's

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about the Niners for a minute, because I don't

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>think people recognize what rough shape they're in because they're

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 2>only one game out of their division. They're five and five,

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 2>same with Seattle and the Rams. Arizona's six and four.

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>But they are now in a position we're almost assuredly

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 2>they are going to lose all tie breakers. They They're

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 2>on and one against Arizona, one one against the Rams,

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:56.879
<v Speaker 2>one and one against Seattle, so the best they could

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>hope for is to split with everyone, so they're not

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>have any head to head tiebreakers and have a three

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and three divisional record and so that just puts them

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 2>in such rough shape, particularly against the Rams and the Cardinals,

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>and so they're gonna need a better record than those teams.

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>And the other thing San Francisco is going against it

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 2>is who it has coming up. They are at the Packers,

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:30.320
<v Speaker 2>then they are at the Bills, then home for the Bears,

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 2>home for the Rams, at the Dolphins, home for the Lions,

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 2>at the Cardinals. So the only the only teams left

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 2>on their schedule that are below five hundred is the

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Bears game and the Dolphins game. Dolphins game, you know,

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 2>on the road against where it's not gonna be cold

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 2>in Miami. So what do we think the Niners max

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 2>out at nine wins go four and three the rest

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 2>of the way Packers, Bills, Bears, Rams, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals,

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 2>and I think someone else like Arizona would need So

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 2>if the again, that would mean Arizona. If the if

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the Niners max out at nine, Arizona has to max

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 2>out at eight, Arizona's got six and two of their

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>games left are Patriots Panthers, So that would then mean

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 2>they just need to win one of Seattle twice, the Vikings,

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 2>the Rams, and that Niner game. Like, I just think

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 2>they're in and that's not even talking about the Rams.

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>A Rams team that is it five wins, has games

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:59.280
<v Speaker 2>left against the Saints, Jets, and then tougher games Eagles, Bills,

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the Niner game Cardinal Seahawks. Like I ain't the I

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 2>aink the Niners are cooked and that will lead to

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 2>an interesting do we or do we not pay brock

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Purty question, which we can do at a later show.

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 2>The Bengals, on the other hand, are probably cooked. Thing

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>with the Bengals is do I think it's on the

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 2>board that the Broncos and Colts, who are ahead of them,

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, go on a five game losing streak at

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:35.279
<v Speaker 2>any moment. It's possible the Broncos, though, get the Browns

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 2>and the Colts that I'm sorry Raiders, Browns, Cults next

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 2>three weeks. So as long as the Broncos don't fall

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 2>on their face there, they should have a decent cushion

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.760
<v Speaker 2>going into the final three of the season, which is Chargers, Bengals, Chiefs.

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 2>But maybe the Chiefs are resting people there, so the

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Broncos are in really good shape. And then there's the Dolphins,

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 2>who I wouldn't quite right off yet Dolphins all of

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>a sudden one two in a row the rest of

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 2>their schedule Patriots, Packers, Jets, Texans, Niners, Browns. Jets get

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the Jets twice, the Browns get the Patriots. That should

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 2>be four wins. How can they do in the Packers, Texans,

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:21.879
<v Speaker 2>Niners batch? So I wouldn't pick either. I think Cincinnati's

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 2>got a slightly better chance. You can ask.

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Poked at this or hinted at this last week. I

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 3>just want to give myself congratulations Zach Tyler was fired.

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Would Cincinnati be the best best job for somebody like Belichick?

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:45.240
<v Speaker 2>It, I mean, yes because of Burrow? No, because of ownership.

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:49.279
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, it's just such bad ownership there. But

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 2>you would have Burrow if you're Belichick, And it's like,

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 2>hey man, I just want to stack these wins, catch

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Shula starting with Burrow and Chase. He builds the defense

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 2>like the offense is already put together. That makes sense,

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 2>But I just think ownership is almost disqualifying for the

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 2>top head coaches. Maybe not, but just I don't think

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Mike Brown's got the best reputation, especially on spending money.

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Is it just is it just cheapness that he has

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 3>that's his biggest flaw. Yeah, yeah, like the Jets. It's

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 3>not just like negligence.

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>No, no, it's not. I mean, it's it's is. Yeah,

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 2>you're right, it's not the worst ownership situation, but it's

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>it's the worst ownership situation that doesn't involve like malfeasance

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 2>or just rank incompetence. Right, So like rank in competence

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 2>would be like Jets, Brown's malfeasans would be like what

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 2>Washington used to have with Snyder. But it's right after that,

0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 2>so that's fair. All right, let's play the game.

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 3>All right, we were playing this or that today? First off,

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Justin Herbert had some big time throws against since he

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>but almost cost the charges of the game with some

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 3>bad ones up. He's in a year five? What's the

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 3>deal with Justin Herbert? Is he elite or do you

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 3>not trust him?

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I definitely don't trust him. He has elite traits

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 2>and you saw that on display in the first half

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night when he's just throwing twenty yard lasers, running

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 2>the ball like more than he's done at any point

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 2>in years, and looking totally dynamic, and then all of

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 2>a sudden he goes seven of twenty out of nowhere

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 2>has a fumble that could have lost him the game.

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.760
<v Speaker 2>It felt so much like the playoff game against the Jags,

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 2>where he's just unbelievable early and then goes ice cold late,

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 2>except this one the Chargers were able to win. You know,

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I get frush Danny. Danny Parkin's breakfast Ball loves Herbert

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 2>like I think he truly believes. He wouldn't say this,

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 2>but I think he believes Herbert's the second or third

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:08.680
<v Speaker 2>best quarterback alive. That it's Mahomes Herbert Allen or Mahomes

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Allen Herbert. I mean, he's on the record saying that

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 2>he thinks Herbert has ninety percent of the talent of

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes. So think about that. He thinks Mahomes the

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 2>most talented quarterback ever. Herbert's ninety percent of it. And

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I listen, I give Danny a hard time because when

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 2>you're five, like Caleb is ten games into his career.

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 2>So I am still leaning heavily on my college evaluation

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:40.760
<v Speaker 2>of Caleb Williams because that's the majority of his football career.

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Herbert's in his fifth season and so much of it

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 2>is still leaning heavily on his traits coming out of college.

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So listen, he is an elite talent who hasn't quite

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 2>yet put it all together. He was close to its

0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night.

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm sorry getting into a go ahead real with it.

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 3>What do you think Herbert and the Niners would look like?

0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 3>What would that make their chances get Super Bowl?

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I mean they'd be way, way, way better. I

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>mean that. Yeah, I mean that for sure with all

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 2>those weapons. But it should be noted. Like, here's the

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 2>other thing that frustrates me out some of the Herbert commentary.

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 2>For years, people were picking the Chargers to win that

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 2>division and be a darker or Super Bowl contender. People

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:29.759
<v Speaker 2>loved the talent he had four years, and then when

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the team inevitably finished eight nine or nine and eight,

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 2>people would be like, well, what do you want him

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 2>to do? He doesn't have enough talent. But then the

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 2>very next year they'd run it back with the same guys.

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 2>They'd be like, they can win the super Bowl, all right, next.

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 3>The lives of the Super Bowl favorites for now, but

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 3>you have some doubts if they don't win the NFC.

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:51.320
<v Speaker 3>What's the reason the Lions demises golf or the defense.

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I would think it'd be more likely to be the

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:59.319
<v Speaker 2>defense because the Angeloni injuries big. They already lost Hutchinson.

0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:03.839
<v Speaker 2>So here's here's the problem. You know what Wild's got

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 2>annoyed with me about yesterday was we were asked the question,

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.880
<v Speaker 2>are the Lions the best team in the NFL? And

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you heard what I said, Demon's,

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:14.959
<v Speaker 2>but you're probably not gonna like it either. You're gonna

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:16.879
<v Speaker 2>make one of those faces where you're like, oh man,

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 2>that was too harsh, Like you said, like the face

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 2>you made wasn't making fun of Tommy DeVito's agent for

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, of doing everything but walking around with a

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:27.040
<v Speaker 2>sign that said please take a picture with me at

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the Yankee game. So here's what I said about golf

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 2>in the modern NFL. I do not think you can

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<v Speaker 2>be the best team in the NFL, considered the best

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 2>team in the league if you have a civilian at quarterback.

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 2>And the word civilian is what I think annoyed people.

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 2>But by that, what I mean is when the other

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:02.600
<v Speaker 2>teams you're in the debate with. So the teams in

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the debate for best team in the NFL right now

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 2>are the Chiefs, the Bills and the Lions, And so

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 2>if the other two teams have superheroes at quarterback and

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.879
<v Speaker 2>you have a civilian at quarterback, it doesn't mean you

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 2>can't win the super Bowl. It really doesn't. But it

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 2>does mean you're gonna be fighting uphill in the biggest

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 2>games of the year, because when everything goes wrong, can

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 2>your guy make it right. There's only a handful of

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 2>human beings alive that that applies to, and by the way,

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:45.439
<v Speaker 2>they might all be in the AFC unless Stafford can

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 2>tap back into Stafford from a couple of years ago.

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:53.839
<v Speaker 2>The NFC doesn't have any superheroes. Jalen's not. Jordan Love

0:47:53.920 --> 0:48:00.120
<v Speaker 2>isn't not yet. Sam Darnold certainly isn't. Kyler wants to,

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 2>but he's not like Purty obviously isn't like So all

0:48:04.719 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the super superheroes are guys with super hero upside. Mahomes,

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Alan Burrow, Lamar no, not, he's not superhero, you know,

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Herbert All. It's why the Colts drafted Richardson because it's like, man,

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 2>we're in the AFC, we got to go with the

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 2>guy that might be able to be a superhero. And

0:48:27.040 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 2>some people might say Burrow doesn't qualify because he doesn't

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 2>have the measurables or the traits, but his superpower is

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the accuracy, precision, relationship with chase ability and big moments.

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Like his superpower is closer to like what Brady's was.

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 2>But so I think Detroit's awesome, and I don't. I

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>think they've done a great job building a team perfect

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 2>for Jared Goff, and I don't think he's gonna ruin him. Listen,

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I saw brock Perty make the Super Bowl last year

0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 2>in the exact perfect circumstance, and they could have won.

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not saying they can't win the super Bowl.

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is it's so hard for me to

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 2>say you are actually the favorite, you're actually the best

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 2>team if you don't have one of those guys as

0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 2>your signal caller.

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 3>All right, Next, we spent a lot of time making

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.880
<v Speaker 3>fun of Russell Wilson, but he's been great in Pittsburgh's

0:49:24.880 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 3>been lighted it up over there. Meanwhile, bo Nicks now

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 3>is the second best odds to win Rookie of the

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.879
<v Speaker 3>Year happier with their quarterback Pittsburgh or Denver.

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh right now, probably Denver because Knicks has exceeded expectations. Now,

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 2>remember before the year, when we were talking offensive Rookie

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:49.919
<v Speaker 2>of the Year, I created the category of most likely

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:53.080
<v Speaker 2>to fool people into thinking he's good, and I said

0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 2>bow Nicks was the number one draft pick for that.

0:49:55.920 --> 0:50:00.200
<v Speaker 2>He's your age, demons, he played six years of college football.

0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 2>He like just a little context. People think the thing

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm joking about bo Nicks. Bow Knicks is three months younger,

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 2>three months younger than Trevor Lawrence. When I say he's

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:19.840
<v Speaker 2>an old rookie, he's an old rookie, Okay. So the

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 2>he turns twenty five in January, so he had that

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 2>going for him and Sean Payton's offense. So I but

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 2>they're really happy because he has shown such a high

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 2>floor that they feel like, Okay, we have our guy.

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.319
<v Speaker 2>And again, I don't know they there's a little mac

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Jones potential here, not fall off like that, but where

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 2>he is at his full ceiling his rookie season. Russell

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Wilson Man. The fact that the Steelers won that game

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:56.359
<v Speaker 2>despite Russell playing that way is a testament to their

0:50:56.400 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 2>coaching and their defense. And that pick in the end

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 2>zone was maybe the worst non Will Levis play of

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 2>the season, so I like as happy as Pittsburgh is

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 2>right now. I think Russ has actually played a touch

0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 2>worse in each game of the season so far. Thought

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>his best was the Jets, then the Giants so pretty good,

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Washington not great at all, and then the Ravens game,

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was bad and they won despite it.

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:33.759
<v Speaker 3>All right, next, both Caleb Williams and Drake May had

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 3>good games despite losses, though, But it seems like people

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 3>are very high on Drake May and hardly noticed Caleb

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Williams Good Weekend, most illusional Caleb's critics or Drake's devotees.

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:48.760
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm gonna go with neither, because listen

0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the Caleb critics, I think it's been mostly fair. People

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 2>giving up on him are saying the Bears made the

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 2>wrong pick, that's too much. But he hasn't played up

0:51:56.680 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 2>to the level we would have hoped. And I understand

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 2>why people are excited about Drake May. But this also

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 2>is there's a lot of play here. One is because

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.760
<v Speaker 2>everyone expected and was fine with the Patriots being awful.

0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Drake is going out there and just letting it rip,

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:18.760
<v Speaker 2>which is super fun. He has big plays, he throws

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 2>picks to end games. He makes mistakes, but then he

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:25.319
<v Speaker 2>makes awesome plays. Because for the Bears, it was like

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:28.600
<v Speaker 2>we can be a playoff team, we should be good it.

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:32.359
<v Speaker 2>We haven't gotten that out of Caleb. He has been

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:35.839
<v Speaker 2>playing a safe, you know brand of football, just don't

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:38.360
<v Speaker 2>make the big mistake. And and you hate that for

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 2>a rookie. And that's because of the disparate team expectations.

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 2>But the other thing, oh, this last game, so right,

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 2>So here's my hypothesis. I think Shane Waldron, who was

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 2>the offensive coordinator, was like, I'm gonna be Caleb's offensive

0:52:55.080 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 2>coordinator for years. We are going to try, even though

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:04.399
<v Speaker 2>we might struggle his rookie year, to install big boy

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:09.200
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacking habits where you're gonna go through all your progressions.

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:13.720
<v Speaker 2>We know you can run, don't run, stay in the pocket,

0:53:14.200 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 2>all these things. Meanwhile, the other rookies like Jaden and

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 2>bo a ton of like what there were what Jaden

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:25.800
<v Speaker 2>when the guy from the Bengals was like, it's a

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.800
<v Speaker 2>real nice college offense. Jaden is running. He wasn't totally wrong.

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:34.799
<v Speaker 2>What he was saying was Cliff Kingsbury was telling Jaden Daniels,

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.439
<v Speaker 2>look at your first read if it's not there, look

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:42.799
<v Speaker 2>at your checkdown, and if it's not there, run And

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.239
<v Speaker 2>it worked. First read was open a lot. If not,

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:48.680
<v Speaker 2>go right to the checkdown. If not, be an athlete.

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Pardon me, for the first time all year, that's what

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the Caleb was coached to do. Look at your first read,

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.080
<v Speaker 2>look at your check down. If it's not their run

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and he ran for seventy yards, got comfortable as the

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 2>game went on. All these things. Now, that's not all

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:12.839
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacking is, and he's got to develop more. But it

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 2>was a good way to level set him since it

0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:18.520
<v Speaker 2>was going in such a negative reaction. All right, let's

0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:19.279
<v Speaker 2>go to the next one.

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Twelve weeks in and the most impactful free agents of

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:28.240
<v Speaker 3>the NFL offseason have been running backs Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry,

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.840
<v Speaker 3>even Joe Mixon just lit it up last night. Or

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:34.960
<v Speaker 3>veteran running backs reshaped our veteran running backs reshaping the position.

0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Running backs are worth paying or not essential.

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Well at this point, given how the market has moved

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:47.320
<v Speaker 2>at this point, I think they might be worth paying

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:51.640
<v Speaker 2>somewhat so the right if we're talking six to eight

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 2>million bucks, when you know wide receiver three goes for

0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:01.600
<v Speaker 2>ten million. Yeah, the now it's you know what I mean.

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Now we've kind of flipped. Like the Chief signed Hollywood

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Brown for six million dollars is an ex you know,

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Derrick Henry makes eight. So like, I do think there

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 2>is a level of where the market has moved enough

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:20.239
<v Speaker 2>to where you'd consider it. I still think you can

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:24.400
<v Speaker 2>find them in the draft. But if what you can't

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:27.399
<v Speaker 2>do is what the Cowboys did, not spend money on

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:31.360
<v Speaker 2>one and not identify somebody in the draft you really like?

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:32.399
<v Speaker 2>All right, last one?

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Demonsey, your rival Mina Khim suggests that you get on

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Blue Sky. It seems like people are threatening to leave

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:42.120
<v Speaker 3>X in waves, but we haven't seen the shift yet.

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 4>Get Nick right on X. Are you staying? Are you going?

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm staying. But I also did sign up. I

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 2>had signed up Evidently I didn't realize it for Blue

0:55:53.239 --> 0:55:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Sky years ago because it said I already had an

0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 2>account and it was at Gettingick right, and I'm trying

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 2>to post somewhat on both places. Let me see how

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the So what I didn't want to do is I

0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 2>don't like the announcement, like I'm using this social media now,

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 2>But also how then do you get people to know

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:14.799
<v Speaker 2>you're on there if you don't do that. So I'm

0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 2>not really sure, Listen, I'm not I'm not gonna act

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:27.560
<v Speaker 2>like I'm leaving Twitter based on like principled grounds. Maybe

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:30.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe I should, maybe I shouldn't, but it's where, you know,

0:56:30.640 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I've got six seven hundred thousand people. It's a good

0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:36.759
<v Speaker 2>way to get a message out still, even though the

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:40.400
<v Speaker 2>for utab is a hellscape like just follow who you follow,

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 2>So I'm still using that, but I'm trying to you know,

0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I'll try to put stuff on Blue Sky as well,

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:49.600
<v Speaker 2>because it does seem like some people left. I don't know,

0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, it's I don't know that

0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 2>the percentage of it, but some people left. So we'll

0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 2>try to post on both. That's the short version. All right,

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 2>let me answer some listener take quick break answers, some

0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:09.239
<v Speaker 2>listener questions. Next we'll right, all right, welcome back in.

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:12.239
<v Speaker 2>What's right with Nick? Right, demand, let's do some listener questions.

0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 3>Uh splash his own, Nick, Uh, I beseech you and

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 3>implore you as you enter your bachelor phase on first things.

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 4>First, consider the rams.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm more than considering the rams. I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>trip scheduled to Los Angeles next week. Actually to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to see this Rams to the Super Bowl, take up

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<v Speaker 2>close and in person. No, the Rams are on the

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<v Speaker 2>short list. Rams are on the list, Eagles are on

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<v Speaker 2>the list, Lions are on the list. Those right now

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<v Speaker 2>are the three leading contenders for my NFC Super Bowl picks.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't you worry about that. Read tomorrow. Butler's question

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<v Speaker 2>demanse and I just want to tell the audience this

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<v Speaker 2>is sent in all caps, so everything go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this isn't all caps Toamar, Butler says Nick. Lamar

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 3>didn't fumble two times, Lamar did miss two field goals.

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Lamar didn't get the ball ripped out of his hands,

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<v Speaker 3>and Lamar wasn't getting penalties to start drives first and twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Did Lamar play well, Damar? Or did he complete forty

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:19.959
<v Speaker 2>five percent of his passes? Like, listen, you're right, other

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:24.280
<v Speaker 2>guys also made mistakes, But even if they had justin

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Ducker and made his field goals, it wouldn't change fact.

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Lamar played really poorly, and that's just not up for debate.

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<v Speaker 2>And we can continue to make these excuses, but this

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:41.680
<v Speaker 2>is a it's a tough bridge when it's like they

0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 2>lost the game and he played poorly, But you would

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<v Speaker 2>like me to create a scenario where they didn't lose

0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the game because one of those things didn't happen and

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 2>he didn't play poorly. Well, there's a lot of scenarios

0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 2>we could create that are totally fictitious. This was not

0:58:57.720 --> 0:59:03.040
<v Speaker 2>a scenario. This was not the Bengals Ravens games where

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<v Speaker 2>both quarterbacks played great and someone had to lose. This

0:59:06.280 --> 0:59:10.040
<v Speaker 2>was actually the opposite. Both quarterbacks played poorly and someone

0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>had to win. And after the Russell interception when the

0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you got a gift and it was Ravens down five

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:21.320
<v Speaker 2>with the ball, go make a play, MVP. That's all,

0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Go make a play, all right, Let's keep moving.

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, DeMar no oder Ariguaez. The Sixers are two and eleven.

0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Should embid try to get out of Philly, and emb.

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<v Speaker 2>Should try to play like an MVP and be available,

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<v Speaker 2>like I mean, the the you know, the the call

0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 2>is coming from inside the house as far as Joel

0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Embi and the reasoning, Philly is struggling. So that's like,

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:50.240
<v Speaker 2>there's not gonna be a lot of situations where and

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 2>I know guys have dealt with injuries, but better than

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Maxie and George. Figure it out, make it work. There's

0:59:55.400 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 2>nobody's running right away with the bottom of the Eastern

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Conference playoffs spot, She's still got plenty of time.

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<v Speaker 3>Next Uh, Danny Tanner. Is JJ Redick a legit head coach?

1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Or is it more fair to say that Darvin Ham

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<v Speaker 3>was over his skis both?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, JJ Reddick is a legit head coach, ex's

1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and O's wise. I wonder how the softer coach skills

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:19.480
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna do well with and but Darvin Ham was

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<v Speaker 2>also clueless, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Next one, Scott Frasier Nick, I if Nick, if Cousins

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<v Speaker 3>keeps playing this bad, should the Falcon start?

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<v Speaker 2>Pinnis Uh, not yet, but let's see if it continues

1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:38.120
<v Speaker 2>like they're still in first in the division, and there's

1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:41.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, they see if it stabilizes. But the last

1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:46.600
<v Speaker 2>few weeks Cousins has looked really, really shaky. Rene Matta

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<v Speaker 2>asked me, when does the poker tournament come on? Not

1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:51.600
<v Speaker 2>for a few months, so I'll let you guys know. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tommy DeVito's agent evidently says I'm welcome for a photo.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that's actually his agent. That's this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually obviously, but that is Deman's. That is what he

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<v Speaker 2>was wearing one of the two games that I was at,

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<v Speaker 2>an iridescent glowing Yankees coat and that hat. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here to tell you of the two days he was

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<v Speaker 2>getting that, I saw that I was two Yankee games.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that games four and five, this was the least

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<v Speaker 2>the less ostentatious of the two looks. I'm not making

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<v Speaker 2>it up, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>When I saw him in like green it was like

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<v Speaker 3>a green blazer or something, and like the soup pants

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<v Speaker 3>and he had on like some Jordan elevens or something

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<v Speaker 3>that one I thought was called might have been different

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<v Speaker 3>different venues, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The I mean, I yeah, I listen nobody. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was also I know, it's not I don't like the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say I don't like the guy. Let's not

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<v Speaker 2>do that. I'm just telling you it was interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>watch someone like take laps and dart their eyes around

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<v Speaker 2>like if anyone noticed me, anyone got their phone out,

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<v Speaker 2>anyone want to quick snap a quick pick? All right,

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<v Speaker 2>see you guys on the herd. And on first things first, Sorry,

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