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Speaker 1: on all things and ladies and gentleman. My name is

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Speaker 1: Tank and this it's the RB Money Podcast, the authority

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Speaker 1: on all things R and B. Yes it is. Some

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Speaker 1: people just make it happy. Spirit is good, beautiful inside

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Speaker 1: and out. When they walk in the room, it's electric. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's another word for it? Spark A spark? Yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: the detail is immense in terms of who and what

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Speaker 1: this young lady is. I would just say incredible. I

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Speaker 1: just want to stop there and introduced spark. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but definitely has to be one of the best intros

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Speaker 1: are you guys, I'm awesome. I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to start this. I want to start this pod by

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Speaker 1: by telling a story. Okay, okay, Um, you're a you're

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Speaker 1: a very popular singer. Extremely thank you, and sometimes that

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Speaker 1: can be confused with pop as if you aren't urban, right, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: once you coming to a club in knowledge, you're just

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Speaker 1: to knowls. You know who you are? Ye look at

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Speaker 1: you and I say, if the largest laces on your

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Speaker 1: just hang out with us. You ain't gotta sing, You

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of festivities going on, and Joan,

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Speaker 1: you proceeded to walk on this stage, you know, in

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Speaker 1: it right. No, it's not me, it's you. Oh God.

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Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of us had grabbed the

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Speaker 1: and we had who we had all night? Who? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And you came on that stage and you started singing,

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Speaker 1: and everybody in that love Casino, whatever that room was

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Speaker 1: dog and everything my dog do. The whole thing you

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Speaker 1: were just you are just an incredible talent, no matter

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Speaker 1: just it's just is what it is. So I just

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Speaker 1: Um So I did walk into the building after I

426
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: made it, thinking that that person is going to be

427
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: around and they weren't there, and I secretly was like, okay,

428
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: but I think that you know that ultimately speaks to

429
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: just you know, the next generation of people who are

430
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: coming up, who really want to do this. Yeah, yeah,

431
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you gotta keep pushing,

432
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: you gotta keep chopping. I keep pushing. Yeah. And there's

433
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: always if a door is closed, there's always a window.

434
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: There's a sliding glass door, there's a basement, there's a chimney.

435
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: Jay always says this, you only need one yes, Yeah,

436
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: you need and more. Now that yes is more available

437
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: than it's ever been. When you started. That wasn't That

438
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. You couldn't just go make some content

439
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: get cracking. You literally had to wait on the next

440
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: thing to a different city to it. You know what

441
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: I mean. Now it's like I don't. I don't. I

442
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: honestly don't understand talented people that don't get cracking now

443
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: in some capacity, for sure, you know what I mean,

444
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: because you just don't have any hustle, right because now

445
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: literally you can wake up in your room and say, Okay,

446
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: can I make in this room to look like something?

447
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: And how can I sing such and such a song

448
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: or singing my own song that I just gonna make

449
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: people pay attention to me. Yeah, Okay, that one didn't go.

450
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna do one thousand more, yes,

451
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: and hopefully somebody will see me. And it's like, you

452
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: can cheat. You can do the analytic on the songs

453
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: that get the most traction when you sing in a

454
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: certain city, a certain time, but a certain time in

455
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: which day. Yeah, yeah, the data is incredible. We're doing

456
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: that now, Like even you have to you have to

457
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: roll with the times. Even though sometimes I feel a

458
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: little left behind. I'm like, what is that? What? Wait?

459
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm ah, what, But I do think there's You're right,

460
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: there's so much opportunity for people. And that's how I

461
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: felt at the time as well, not necessarily because of

462
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: the times, because it was different, but there were thirty

463
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: five million people watching us twice a week every week

464
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: while I was on the show, and so my whole

465
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: mindset was, Okay, I want I want to win. Obviously,

466
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: I want to win, so many variables have to line

467
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: up for that to happen. But if I can get

468
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: to the top ten, you know, I'll be on live

469
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: television in front of thirty five million people. If I

470
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: get tenth, I'm still winning, how am I? And that's

471
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: my mindset because I know there are a lot of

472
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: people that didn't really have the greatest experience with the show.

473
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: Everybody's got a different perspective. I had a great time

474
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: with the show. But that's what I always looked at.

475
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't be mad if you're not.

476
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: You have all these people who know you now, and

477
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: if nothing's happening, you have to look at like what

478
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: are you doing? Take that? Yeah, you can take that

479
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: for sure. Last was half full. Yeah, and you can

480
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 1: have a whole career. You could tour, you can do

481
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: everything with those that many eyes. And now it's exemplified, exemplified.

482
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, No, that's a church word. Amplified, thank you.

483
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: It is amplified a million times that it was. Then

484
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: because you can do a TikTok and you can have

485
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: a million views in an hour. Yeah, Like it's just insane.

486
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: What are your nerves? Like, what do you mean on

487
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: the show thirty How do you think it's thirty five

488
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: million people? Yes, but I was excited for that. I

489
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: wanted you were ready, Yeah, I wanted that. She was

490
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: already hammed up, she was already it's just thirty five.

491
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: I was still nervous, Like it was still like, you know,

492
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: nerve racking to go out there, but at the same time,

493
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: it was more the waiting and the lead up to

494
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: getting on the stage, because once I on the stage,

495
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: that's where everything makes sense to me. Everything everything goes

496
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 1: like this. So that part is fine. I get nervous

497
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: before and I'll start I get really shaky after I

498
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: get off stage, but when I'm on stage, nothing insot me.

499
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: When I'm on the just Idol in general, yeah, it

500
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: was a lot. There was definitely a lot. I feel

501
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: like American Idol was the boot camp that everybody pretty

502
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: much needs to go through for the industry and also

503
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: for media training as well. So the schedule typically on

504
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: my season, because I don't know what it is now,

505
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's even crazier, but for my season, it

506
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: was Monday, we woke up and we recorded the full

507
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: length version of the song we were going to sing

508
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, because that was the first year that they

509
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: put the singles on iTunes that of what we sang

510
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: on the show. So Monday we would wake up and

511
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: do that, and then it was rehearsal and possibly getting

512
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: close and a little bit of like downtime because the

513
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: show was on Tuesday. Tuesday was show day. You wake

514
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: up at five am, go there, everybody gets ready, you

515
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: do a full dress rehearsal. Then you do a full

516
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: live show. Wednesday, do the same thing again and then

517
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: there's a live show. But then somebody gets kicked off,

518
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: until you're all emotional. Thursday, you're still emotional because your

519
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: friend just got kicked off. Thursday, it's first come, first

520
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: served for the new theme of the week, and then

521
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: you have to pick the songs and it's whoever gets

522
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: them in emailed in to the person gets first, first come,

523
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: first serve. UM. So I would take like five songs

524
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, but I want all of these

525
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: and these are my options, and that's what I would

526
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: go for. UM. I had twice. There were two weeks

527
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: where somebody asked me for the song that I wanted

528
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: to sing and I was like, okay, okay, you can

529
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: have it, so yeah, yes, but they were like, please,

530
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: I don't know any other song whatever they said, and

531
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool, I can I can

532
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: sing another one, no problem. UM. So we did that

533
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: and then a Friday would be the same, be shopping,

534
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what we're wearing all of that stuff,

535
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: and then Saturday was, yeah, they would take us, so

536
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: you can kind of now you're starting to find your

537
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: own style too. Yes, yes, you're trying to like figure

538
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: out everything because now they have style lists that like

539
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: that will constantly be around you early early on. We

540
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: didn't get that until Top twelve. So everything you saw

541
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: up until Top twelve was just what we had in

542
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: our suitcases, you know, just what we had, and so

543
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: they had the person there helping us, but we ultimately

544
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: had to pick everything because they didn't want anybody to

545
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: be able to come back and say, well, they told

546
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: me to do this, they told me to sing that.

547
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: All of the decisions definitely fell back on us, which

548
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: makes sense. And then Saturday was the the mentor shoot,

549
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: so they would have, like Top twelve, we had Diana Ross,

550
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: so I know, it was incredible. We had Diana Ross

551
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: and she the shoot is basically all day because we're

552
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: on their schedule and their time, so sometimes we would

553
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: start right on time. Sometimes people's flights would be delayed

554
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: or different things like that, we'd still had to just

555
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: be in the spot that whole hurry up and wait situation.

556
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: So we did that all Saturday, which was kind of exhausting,

557
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: and then on Sunday. Ford was a sponsor of the show,

558
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: so we would shoot a car commercial for Ford on

559
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: Sundays and then Monday we wake up and do the song,

560
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: Tuesday do the show. Yeah, so you learn real quick

561
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: like and that was all here. So it also was

562
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: a change to have to do that like that everywhere else.

563
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: And that was once you got into the top twelve

564
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: top Yeah. Top twelve was when we had the mentors

565
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: and we started the Ford shoots and the whole thing. Yeah,

566
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: win does when does a business start? Because at a

567
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: certain top what that they top ten, top ten, they

568
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: signed everybody right m top ten. They basically it was

569
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: they put us in a room and said here's this

570
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: is the lawyer he told us about like bullet points

571
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: and then they were like, you need to sign this

572
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: or you can't continue in the competition. And do you

573
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: and does anyone have a lawyer present? No? One not

574
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: at that time though, so you literally I didn't know

575
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: any different and I don't think any I don't think

576
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: any anybody else, honestly, don't think at that point you

577
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: have a choice. No, No, no no, you don't. But it's

578
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: not so with there people that were in that room

579
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: with you that were like I can't sign that. Was

580
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: there was there anyone that was just like, I'm not signing.

581
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: I don't remember really, it's kind of vague, but I

582
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: do remember feeling like all of us felt a little

583
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: weird signing it, but then knowing that we could potentially

584
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: be off the Yeah, potentially. No, it's like you either

585
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: sign it or no. And so it was like, oh,

586
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: they put you in the situation to really be like

587
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: this could this could change my entire life exactly, This

588
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: could change my entire life, um, And so we signed it.

589
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, all of us signed it, so that under directs.

590
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: If I wish, I would have know, but but it wasn't.

591
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't too I mean, because I won, it definitely

592
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: benefited me. It was different, UM. And there were two

593
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: two different contracts because it was the label contract and

594
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: that I was signed with nineteen Entertaining as well, So

595
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: there was like this dual thing happening. UM. But basically

596
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: they had the option to manage the top ten UM,

597
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: but it was up to them they could or they

598
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: had a management production DIP DIP dip dip dip, Yes,

599
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: lock it up literally, yes, But okay, so we also

600
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: like to give the other side. We always like to

601
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: give the other side and have a true understanding of

602
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: the business and with people walking when people walk into

603
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: knowingly and unknowingly. Yes, but then give you know, the balance,

604
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: because this is also a show that it's supplying everything

605
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: you need to become successful in the music. Yes, they're

606
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: supplying everything everything. There is no manager, there is no agency,

607
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: there is no producer, there's nothing else attached to you

608
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: as the artist but American Idol, and they're building every

609
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: single thing that will be a part of you. Yeah,

610
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: so you know it sounds crazy, like you know, we

611
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: make jokes about it like, oh my god, they got

612
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: they got everything. But they're supplying everything as well. Yeah,

613
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, they're giving you a platform. They're put you

614
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: in front of thirty five million people weekly. I signed

615
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: the track twice seventy million. I wasn't nobody in front

616
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: of nobody. I just signed it. They signed this champ.

617
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: I hope we do something. I hope we do something

618
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: to no. So you know, I also want to point

619
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, obviously, you know that's a tough spot

620
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: to be in for a creative and for an artist

621
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: to to where it's literally like sign it or get on,

622
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: I get about it here. That's tough, yes, but that

623
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: opportunity in itself, you have to start weighing it out

624
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: of Okay, what else could I do that could put

625
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: me in this position? At the time, there wasn't anything

626
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: like that. There was I mean, still isn't really anything

627
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: like that that that sets you up that way, right,

628
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still Look, it's it'll be sixteen years, yeah,

629
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: sixteen years since I won. That was in two thousand

630
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: and seven, and I still and I'm like, I still

631
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: have there are people I feel like, I feel like

632
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: but I still have people that come up to me

633
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: and they remember like specific performances that I did. I

634
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: still have people come up to me that are just

635
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: like we toured. We like there were people that followed

636
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: us on tour, Like I saw the same people like

637
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: every day on tour. They would drive and follow you.

638
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: Super fans exactly, yeah, and like and all of us

639
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: in the top ten had our own fans like that.

640
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: We all had our own fan bases. And I don't

641
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: know if there's anything I mean, I guess you get.

642
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: It's just a different type of fan base with like

643
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: TikTok and stuff like that. I feel like with Idol

644
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: because people really did get to know me. They got

645
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: to know me every single week, and then they they voted,

646
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: they had to we were invested. It was it was

647
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: calling numbers. Yes, so that's how they made that break too, though,

648
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: six six Idol zero six. I will never forget. I

649
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: will never forget. My audition number was prison number right now,

650
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: the same thing, zero zero six. All the numbers, you know,

651
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: ain't nothing but a number. We got six bring them in. Um.

652
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, so it was it was, it was really

653
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: it was just really a time, truly, it really was.

654
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: And my season I think season six and season seven

655
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: were the peak of the show then, um, and it

656
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: just was it was nun you won what season did

657
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: you win? Season six? Yeah? So you were six number six,

658
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: number six one season six? Yeah, how here you go

659
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: these numbers? Yeah? Yes, and I was sixteen. Addition, oh

660
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: my god, oh my god. Listen, Lebron thirty eight thirty

661
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: six points to surpass Kareem scored thirty eight thirty eight

662
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: years after Kareem. This is what's happening right here. The

663
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: real six guy re six. Thank you so much. So

664
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm playing Roulette number one, sixteen and six, Yes, yes,

665
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: my new number. And we're yelling, Jordan Spark, were yelling,

666
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: go ahead, spend it, Joe Hey, hopefully I'll give you

667
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: a little bit of luck. Listen, definitely want that w

668
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: No Air, Yes, because No Air obviously was a record

669
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: that you know, we were very familiar with because it

670
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: came out of a house that we were part of

671
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: helping and we're part of and building with. You know,

672
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: all the amazing writers and producers that were there and

673
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: that record. James from Leroy, James from Shout Out to You, James,

674
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: my dog. My dog used to walk around the building

675
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: with a backpack with his imaginary friend in it named boo. Oh.

676
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: He still does he still has the backpack you already know. Yeah,

677
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: this is this is this is early early, no records placed,

678
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: No I mean just pure gift, pure talent. When I

679
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: heard that record, shout out Bluetooth, shout out Damon, shout

680
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: out Harvey, like shout out the guys. Like. When I

681
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: heard that record, I was like, this is different. How

682
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: post to Brieven, No Air, No air. No, No, Like

683
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: that record was really really special and hearing you on

684
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: that song was like, oh it's this is a matchmate

685
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: in heaven. Literally that record was so special when it

686
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: came at such a great time for you, and putting

687
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: Chris on the record was just like, Okay, this is this,

688
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: this doesn't matter, but this doesn't make any sense, like

689
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: this is just and it just like it was. I

690
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: think that record had all of the elements. Yeah you

691
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean of you as a as a

692
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: pure singer, but also um as a but as a

693
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: teenager too, as a teenager, but also as a big singer. Yeah. Yeah,

694
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: it was a power record record. You gave us the

695
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: you gave us the technical like I really do this,

696
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, all through the verses and all through the things,

697
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: and like no, no, I'm really good at this. You

698
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: know you heard it too. But then you went to

699
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: but you know, I've also sang in front of thirty

700
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: five million people. Always always a man yeah people, Oh

701
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: you okay, got it? But you did. I'm ready, I'm ready,

702
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm ready. It was definitely a moment and it was

703
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: like it was like I'm a I'm a live performer.

704
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: That's my thing. You know what I'm saying, nothing like it.

705
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm always like, how is that gonna translate live? Because

706
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: that is a lot of information on that damn record

707
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: that I've seen a lot of singers who are good

708
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: singers try to recreate, you know, they're outstanding on record

709
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: moments and crash and burn. Not because they're not good singers.

710
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: It's just that when you're recording a record, it's different

711
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: than performing a record. Yeah, you get rest time, you

712
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: get water in between. Hey man, take a five minute,

713
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: Take a five minutes. We're gonna get some lunch. Just

714
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: we'll get back to it. I'm you know what, we're tired.

715
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's today. You get all that. But again, going back

716
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: to New Orleans, like in your in your chest bear

717
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: flat footed, yea, probably actually top to bottom. That's really disrespectful.

718
00:43:54,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: Love it, Yes, I love disrespect you know obviously, I'm

719
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: always somewhere in the corner. I'm like, I was my

720
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: hands got off sweaty. I was like, oh my god,

721
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: he put me on the spocket cooking you just I mean,

722
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: so how big? How big was that record? Or is

723
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: that record? Because we speak in the present, as my

724
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: brother Rico love how big, big is that record. It

725
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: is UM in two thousand and while it is the present,

726
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: but in two thousand and eight it was. It was

727
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: so close to being It should have been the number

728
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: one song of the year by two hundred spins two

729
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: who bought them, other two hundred who bought them two hundred.

730
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna talk about who beat you, whatever, whatever, whatever.

731
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: The song that came in front of me was massive

732
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: as well, UM, which was Bleeding Love by Leona Lewis,

733
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: who also was it was the winner of X Factor

734
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: the same year I was the winner of Idol, So

735
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: it was really crazy how all that worked. Yeah, shout

736
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: out to Leona. I love her. UM. But that song

737
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: is definitely my biggest song to date, and it is.

738
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: It just passed the four million Like UM singles come

739
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: on four million singless, but the streams streams is probably

740
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Yeah, it's I know the video is at

741
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: like three hundred million. I think a little bit over that,

742
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: but it's like the numbers are huge, Like I look

743
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: at it and I'm like, I can't even believe that,

744
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: Like this is the stuff that I've done. But that song,

745
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: like it's a living song. You know it like it.

746
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: It took on a whole life of its own without

747
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: Chris and I performing it or doing any promo for it.

748
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: We did it one time in two thousand and eight,

749
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: and we just performed it again last year in August

750
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: for the first time you have since I have only

751
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: performed it twice twice ever ever, So the first time

752
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: is where is that on? Item was on American Idol

753
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: during the promo week right before it came out, we

754
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: performed it on stage. And then fast forward, I got

755
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: to perform it with him at his his last concert

756
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: of his Under the Influence tour fourteen years in August. Yeah,

757
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: it was awesome. It was so good. I was so

758
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: happy that it happened. It was It was crazy getting there.

759
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: Shout out to Dana because he called everybody and like

760
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: tried to We tried to make it work and figure

761
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: it out. And he he does this thing at the

762
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: end where he puts up all his like classics that

763
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: everybody knows and loves, and then he has the audience,

764
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: you know, clap and whichever one they clap for the most,

765
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: he'll sing. Because it was his last show, I think

766
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: he just was like, I'm gonna do everything. So he

767
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: was singing all of them, and I was like, Okay,

768
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is going to happen or not.

769
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: And so I walked down there and I was like, okay,

770
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: I have of my in ears and I just need

771
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: to I brought what Okay, I brought them with me.

772
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: Stay ready, so you don't have to get rid of Okay, yeah,

773
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't have but if I did, you feel me

774
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: go ahead. Yeah. So I was like, I have my ears,

775
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: give me a pack on the microphone, and I will

776
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: just wait and if he calls out the song, I'm here,

777
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: like I'm ready to do it. And so I'm standing

778
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: there like, oh, I don't know if it's going to

779
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: happen or not. We'll see. Because the LA show he

780
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't do No Air and so um I was not.

781
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't there at that show, but I was heard

782
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: from people who went, all my friends who went, but

783
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: they didn't do this. He didn't do the song because

784
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: the audience wanted something else. And so I was like, Okay,

785
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: this might happen, this might not. And so they you know,

786
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: there's somebody on the side in his ears and say, hey,

787
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: Chris Jordan's here. He turned us out what and he

788
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: looked at me and I was like, oh good, he's

789
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: happy to see me now, like you had to crash

790
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: your stage right because I was like, this could I think?

791
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: I think this will be good. And he lit up

792
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: and he was so excited. I ran up there and

793
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: it was such a cool moment, like to be able

794
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: to sing that, and especially because you know, when we

795
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: recorded the song, we were kids. We were seventeen years old,

796
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: and I didn't know anything about like that kind of love,

797
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: like a relationship kind of love. So I was singing

798
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: from the perspective of losing like my friends or my family. Yeah. Um.

799
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: And so to go from then to now we have kids,

800
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: got kids or all they're like, yeah, there's there. It

801
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: was different and it was different to sing from that space.

802
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: So I hope we get to do it again. I

803
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: would love to do that again. But yeah, that was

804
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: a really cool moment. I've heard new music. Okay, snap,

805
00:48:47,480 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: I've heard new music. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. Um,

806
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: I heard new music. When when are we going to

807
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: get the goods music? So literally the last two weeks

808
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: have been trying to figure out which songs are going

809
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: to make the album. You saw the list. The list

810
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: is extensive and very long. It's now up to one

811
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: sixty three sixty three. I want to take people on

812
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: an experience, you know, like I want to be able

813
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: to sing the type of music that I want to sing,

814
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: and they all might be different, because you heard there's

815
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: pieces of everything I r and be over here. I

816
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: got pop over here, I got singer, songwriter, I have acoustic,

817
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: I have ballads of a piano ballad, power anthems like

818
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: I have all of them, and that's all a part

819
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: of me as well. So, um, we're in the process

820
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: of picking all of the songs for the album so

821
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: it can come out by May Come Home. May is

822
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: the goal. May is the goal. Um, I gotta shoot

823
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: the movie in the middle of all this, so we'll

824
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: figure it out. But um, that is the goal for that,

825
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: and we're trying to also correlate it with a tequila launch. Um. Okay, yes,

826
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: tequila ain't tequila man, Tequila man in the body, that's

827
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: what they call me mad Tequila. No, they don't do.

828
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: Can't give the name of it yet, but um, is

829
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: it gonna be tequila mane. That would be a good one, though.

830
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: You should do that, I should do that. However, we

831
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: can do it. Go ahead, don't nobody still so right?

832
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm working on a bunch of different things, you know,

833
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: I think for all of us it's almost like a

834
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: not a trigger phrase, but I feel like people say

835
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: it a lot now, but generational wealth. Really trying to

836
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Now that I'm able to do so many things now,

837
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: I have to figure out what things are going to

838
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: be the most beneficial for me and for my family,

839
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: so that my ceiling is my son's floor. You've given

840
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: us so many bars and so much life today. Oh

841
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: thanks you guys too. I love I love seeing you guys.

842
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: Where are we going? Come on, man, be talented? Tequila Maine, Yeah,

843
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: Tequila Maine. Jordan. Top five, you're top five, take it

844
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: back back to the top. Okay, you're top five? R

845
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: and D, R and B saves. Who are you called

846
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: nut juice? Who are you called nut Juiceall your top

847
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: top deep dive? I don't bosto, Bye bye you top

848
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: fin with the breadth of the end. Whoa He learned

849
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: that at his IDOL audition. He did listen all we

850
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: can't give you any advice? Can you? Cain't got nothing

851
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: for you, Okay, top five. I wrote it down on

852
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: my phone because I just wanted to be I have

853
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: more than five unfortunately, Um Whitney Houston kick it off,

854
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: definitely kick off, kick it off, Mariah Carey. Those two

855
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: women I listened to my entire life growing up, and

856
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: when you hear the new music, you definitely can hear

857
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: the influence from them. Um. I know this is three people,

858
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: but Boys to Men four collectively as a group one

859
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: oh four you righte, you rite you right? Four four

860
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: four you right? But boys Boys to Men is definitely

861
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: up there. Michael Jackson, Smokey Robinson, an usher, m I

862
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: gotta throws in there. I know it's more than five

863
00:53:49,080 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: two three four group. Okay, now that that's a lot.

864
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: That's a lot. Although I have the same for my

865
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: top rby song. So get ready, you know, let's get

866
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: to it, because I feel like, let's go, come on,

867
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: okay ready. Um Earth song is one of my favorite

868
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: songs by Michael, just the emotion, the feeling and everything.

869
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: Man in the Mirror obviously Dirty Diana my faves three

870
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: songs in one that was three of Michael's because he's

871
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: the king. So I just felt like I can put

872
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: all this we belong together. I carry love that song.

873
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: It came out at such a pivotal time in my life,

874
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: like like core memories to that song. Um water runs dry? Yeah,

875
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: I love that song. My dad used to sing it

876
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: around the house like so, I just I remember him

877
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: singing it, remember listening to it? Could he sing it?

878
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: Could he sing it? I mean he was joking around

879
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: when you sing it, and he would always sing it

880
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: to my mom, he like, don't do it, joding like

881
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 1: exactly that was, And then um, I want to dance

882
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: with somebody. I feel like that was such a pivotal

883
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: song because it brought so much of the pop elements

884
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: into her huge voice, and I feel like that really

885
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: helped pave the way for a lot of like what

886
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: we're doing now, and especially someone like me who loves

887
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: both sides of it, you know, um and then burn

888
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: uh sure, And the last one is it's not five,

889
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: but the last one is you Actually your cover of

890
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: I Can't Make You Love Me is one of my

891
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: favorite songs. You sing that song. Yeah, I don't even

892
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: know what to even say. You using that song so beautifully,

893
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: like he's on our playlist. Look he got tears in

894
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: his eyes. Oh sorry, No, it's a great it's a

895
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: great song. We had it on our playlist, like, we

896
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: played it all the time. It's one of my favorites.

897
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: So I had to put you in shout out to

898
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: shout out to Craig count Man. I had to Craig

899
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: count who said, take you know, you should, you should

900
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: visit this song, you should visit just a little visit.

901
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: And I knew it. I knew the song and no

902
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: idea what the song was. Really. I've known that song

903
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: for a really long time. So when I found your version,

904
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 1: I was like, Bonnie Raid is my favorite version. Yeah,

905
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: her version, it's so beautiful. It's just it's it. It's

906
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: the song. Yeah, it's what the song was meant to be. Yeah,

907
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: And we all kind of do our best at you know,

908
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: trying to capture that, you know, capture that, you know

909
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like like ten remakes of that. I

910
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out how to have my own

911
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: moment with it. But every time I sing it live,

912
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: I always revert back to her version. It's hard. I

913
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: never seen my version of the song. I just like saying, Gods,

914
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: people they think it's tanks, so they kind of do

915
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 1: think it's my song when you're down in the delta,

916
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: down you down to delta? Yeah, yeah, wrote produce everything.

917
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, great, I never heard of right, Like, you

918
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: know what, don't worry about it. It's me, that's yeah.

919
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: So sorry. I know I have a hard time getting

920
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: anything down to under five. So it's it's fine, it's fun.

921
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: It's just why I'm having such a hard time choosing.

922
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: It's so hard to get it under so hard. You

923
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: really awesome? Okay, Um, we're gonna build a voltron here. Okay, okay,

924
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: A perfect in your world, the perfect singer. Oh okay,

925
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We want to know who

926
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: are you going to get the vocal from? Who are

927
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: you going to get the performance style from, the styling

928
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: and the passion of that artist. Yeah, let's get into it.

929
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: Who are you going to get the vocal from? Only one?

930
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: Probably Whitney. Definitely Whitney, I mean definitely Whitney Houston. Yeah,

931
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: so vocals from Whitney, okay. And performance style, performance style,

932
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: Michael definitely Michael's. I mean he could just walk out

933
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: onto the stage and it was commanded. You know what.

934
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean presence was just different. Yeah. Yeah, his presence

935
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: was everything it was. It was like it was like

936
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: he was nice but he was mean. Yeah, Spad, you

937
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: know that was great. He had this, he had this.

938
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: I'm about the fuck shit U up ye stance look

939
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: respect respectfully, no, dad, well disrespectful you know what I'm saying.

940
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: But he had it on him. Yeah yeah, Like I

941
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: know he's not a gang member. There's pictures, but I

942
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: feel I feel like there might have been jumped in.

943
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I got a couple of chrip hommers. Man,

944
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: they think they think Michael was part of the claiming.

945
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: Now we put my con We put him on like

946
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: but you're twenty three, bro, Yeah, we put him on.

947
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: Um case we have vocal presence, performance style, styling, styling

948
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: hut that. I mean honestly, if I could dress the

949
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: way that Chris dresses, I would, so I would say

950
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: Chris Brown styling. I think, yeah, everything flying, even built

951
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: a house that's a closet next to his house. I

952
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: try not to. I try not to take tank thing

953
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: dealing because I can figure some of those stealing or

954
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: he don't really stick. It's Chris, give it to him.

955
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: But I call it stealing. It's kind of still yeah,

956
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: borrow it and didn't ask for I put it off

957
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: like man, Chris Show, that's the way to do. This

958
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: is crazy. Got a scent on the clothes, and I

959
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: would pick up with the tag still on the man.

960
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: This is crazy. I know you can't wear this no more.

961
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: I ain't watch it. That's crazy. You should let dollars jacket.

962
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: What you're gonna do, I'm not. Don't let you take

963
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: a hold. He gave me. He gave me a yre

964
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: cell jacket, a fir yre cell jacket that has gotten

965
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: a video two. Let's go. I would do the same

966
01:00:55,680 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: thing to another finger. I was groping up a woman's like,

967
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: like like how Jordan doing together? Okay, all right? Passion

968
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: the heart of the artists. The fine will be out

969
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: there sweating. Well, I mean, I don't know if it's sweating,

970
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: but I feel like, because he's had such a long

971
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: career and has written so much, I would say, smoky,

972
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: smokey Robinson's passion. I don't think smokey sweaty. Don't he

973
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: too fea, He's not gonna sweat. I mean he you know,

974
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: he gonna sing about some gang bang but he ain't

975
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: going man doing that dope, smoking nuts, smoking nuts, smoke

976
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: doing that wrong. That's a thing. I'm not gonna let

977
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: you do that. Kang bang. That's a gang bang king banging.

978
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: He's still out there doing it, cooking was fries them.

979
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: It's all lives smoking me. Sorry that it's come to this.

980
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: This was a respectable thing that I was saying. But

981
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, smokey fashion, no smoke's cold. I can say

982
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: nothing bad. But that's that's an amazing vultry. That's that's

983
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing Okay, we really are you really singing? Now?

984
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: See where she went? M you see where she went.

985
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: I heard it. I ain't saying no nick names, no

986
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: name when you was was weird, but you did don't

987
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: say she said he here? Okay that you should definitely

988
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 1: like record that. Keep that used that. Don't anybody take

989
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: that it takes don't take it. That was great. That

990
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: was great. Okay, enough, blow your head out. Oh my god,

991
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: I have to deal with this guy. Man tell her

992
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: Jo laughs all day. So, yes, you heard the intro.

993
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: You know what's coming. You watch the show. Huh huh, Okay,

994
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: she getting to the phone, pull this out because this story. Okay, right,

995
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: oh yeah, gloss of this up. Let me set this

996
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: up before you know what I'm saying. So why you

997
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: said U, I'm gonna telling people what it is. Yeah, yeah,

998
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: go on, yes us all the life down okay, yeah,

999
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: so you know this is where you tell us a

1000
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: story Funnier fucked up and the travels of Jordan's Sparks huh,

1001
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: the Spark herself, the Sparks huh. You know somebody you

1002
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: might have had to knock the spark out of Come on,

1003
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: if you know, if you wanted to, they could have

1004
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: got it. They could have got it, could have got it.

1005
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: You know what. Maybe you're an American idol, so you

1006
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: know you have to move a certain one. Chill, you know,

1007
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: but people for that. Oh yeah, yeah, we're bringing the

1008
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: mask back out. We're bringing the mask back out. Yeah trying.

1009
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: Rube still ain't brought my mask, but you know what,

1010
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: it's coming at some point. Funnier fucked up, funnier fucked up? Okay,

1011
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: are funny and fucked up? The only rule in the

1012
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: name of the game. I ain't saying no name. Yeah,

1013
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. Okay, Jordan Sparks I just

1014
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: gave no ghosts. I ain't saying no names, neither one. Okay,

1015
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: so he already knows where I'm going, which is funny. Okay.

1016
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: So I had a session with this person, and um,

1017
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: I had. I was really excited for this session. I

1018
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: had known who this person was. I was a fan

1019
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: of one of the songs they put out, and um,

1020
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: so I was really looking forward to it. And this

1021
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: person comes in and you know, he walks in. I

1022
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: first of all, I meet him the day before our session.

1023
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: He stopped by one of my sessions. He came in,

1024
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: super nice, super cool, um decked out in all different

1025
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: types of designer names everywhere. They were all different, lots

1026
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: of diamonds and jewelry. And I was like, oh, okay,

1027
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: um cool do you He looked right. I was like cool.

1028
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: So we chopped it up. We talked for a little while.

1029
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: He was really nice. I was. Then I was really

1030
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: excited for the session. The next day. Next day comes

1031
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: time for the session, he's not there waiting for Like, okay,

1032
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: it's la maybe traffic. We live kind of out in

1033
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: the cut, So like, all right, give him like twenty minutes.

1034
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: It's still not there. Keep going, what is that. Keep

1035
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: going and try and wait around. He's still not there.

1036
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: So at this point, it's like two hours past start time,

1037
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: and he finally walks in the door, and I was like, oh, hi,

1038
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: like glad you came, Like how you doing? And I'm

1039
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: usually really good at giving people grace, right like the entertainment.

1040
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: We're busy, some things can happen, somethings go late, whatever.

1041
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: So he comes. Two hours later, this gentleman comes and

1042
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, cool, no worries, let's get this

1043
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: song done so we have the music up. Also, he

1044
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: walked in with two other people. I had no idea

1045
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: who these people were. Now, my space, which you've seen,

1046
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: is at my house, yes, and so he brings these

1047
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: two people to my house without telling me or letting

1048
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: me know or even asking. That was the first thing

1049
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: that I caught where I was like, that doesn't really

1050
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: sit well with me. So he comes in, he has

1051
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: the two people come in, and then we're trying to

1052
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: write and I'm trying to do all this stuff, and

1053
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: he has one phone here and one phone here, and

1054
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: on both phones he's looking at himself and I was like,

1055
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: what is happening? And so he's like looking at himself.

1056
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: He's talking about all the things that he's doing and

1057
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 1: everything that he's done while he's been in town, and blah,

1058
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: bah blah. And he pulls up a performance that he

1059
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: did and you know, we all watch it. It was

1060
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: it was great, and he was very impressed with himself

1061
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: and what he did and nobody can do this, nobody's

1062
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: doing it like this. And I was like, oh, okay,

1063
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: and so okay, so he's just doing that and that

1064
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: was cool cool. He was proud of what he did.

1065
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: Got it, watched it. I come out of the booth,

1066
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: he's replaying it. He's playing it again, and I was like, okay, okay,

1067
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: this is I don't know what to do in this situation,

1068
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: because I was just like, we gotta get this session done.

1069
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: And so we're writing and then all of a sudden,

1070
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: the two gentlemen that he brought with him start inputting,

1071
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: trying to write, and I'm confused, like, this is not

1072
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: what we discussed. It was supposed to be myself and

1073
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: you and the other writer that I had, I think

1074
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 1: at the time. And they started and I'm like, I

1075
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: don't know these people. I don't even know if they weren't.

1076
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never seen these people before. I

1077
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: don't know if they're in the industry. And he didn't

1078
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: say they were. He didn't really say what they were doing.

1079
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: So they start trying to record, and then they start

1080
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: trying to write. I'm sorry, they start trying to write.

1081
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: And so then I go over to my engineer at

1082
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: the time and I look at my phone and I

1083
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: see the time, and I'm just like, I have two

1084
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: more hours. I just have to just power through these

1085
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: last two hours because the session was going to end

1086
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: at a certain time. And we keep going and I

1087
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: am like, okay, do you want to lay this part down? Like,

1088
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: because we were supposed to be doing a song together.

1089
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: And I was like, do you want to lay this

1090
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: part down? And he goes, well, the way my time

1091
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 1: is set up, I can't go in there right now.

1092
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, it'll take you two, like two

1093
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: seconds to do it, and he says that and I

1094
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: go fine, So I go into the booth. I lay

1095
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: it down in ten seconds. I come out and he's

1096
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: gathering all of his stuff to leave, and I was

1097
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: like so and he was like, well, yeah, I'm gonna go.

1098
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm kind of hungry and go get

1099
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: some food. And I was like, okay, no problem, thank

1100
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: you for coming, see you later. And he left and

1101
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: I saged the entire the entire studio. I saged every corner.

1102
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: I threw saw over the the door, like the little way,

1103
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: and I did the booth too, and I never let

1104
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: anybody smoke in there, but I put my stage all

1105
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: over the booth. I was like, no, his energy was

1106
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: just it was not and I haven't dealt with a

1107
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: lot of people like that, Like usually my sessions are

1108
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: really cool because it's it's fun. We're supposed to be

1109
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: having a good time, you know. He made it all

1110
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: about him and himself, and I just was like, we

1111
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: will never do this again. Like I'm good. So fast

1112
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: forward two weeks we go down to Atlanta and we're

1113
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: doing more sessions and Dana is like, hey, so, so

1114
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: and so wants to get back in and I was like, no,

1115
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: I'm good. He goes, but who knows it might be

1116
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I'm like, okay, sure, yeah, he said,

1117
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: grace and I was like all right, so, but the

1118
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: whole time, in the back of my head, I'm like,

1119
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: this is gonna be some bs like he's gonna pull

1120
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: some heats and gonna pull some shit. So we're sitting

1121
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 1: there again. He shows up two hours late, and I'm like, okay,

1122
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: this is just so he finally gets there because we

1123
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: were already going to be in the session, so we

1124
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: started working anyway. So he shows up, same same thing,

1125
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: Hey how are you doing? No, like nothing acknowledging what

1126
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: happened before, and so I was like, okay, which I understand. Cool.

1127
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 1: So he comes in. He brings somebody with him again,

1128
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: but it's his girlfriend or girl at whoever. So wasn't

1129
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: her fault that she's just along for the ride. She

1130
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: doesn't know, so I don't whole anything gets her. I'm

1131
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: still like this dude, didn't ask. Again, he's just bringing

1132
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: people to the session. Like I have closed sessions. My

1133
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: sessions aren't just anybody can come like yeah, I just

1134
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: I have done those, but for the most part it's closed.

1135
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: It's whoever's supposed to be there and myself and the

1136
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: engineer and then we're good unless the producer comes. So

1137
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: he comes in and he's like doing all this stuff.

1138
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: And he goes in and lays down one melody and

1139
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: then I'm sitting trying to pick out all the pieces,

1140
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: so we lay at the melodies for those who don't

1141
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: know somehow, sometimes how I work is I go in,

1142
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: I laid on a whole bunch of melody ideas. Then

1143
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: I come out and then I pick and the puzzle

1144
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: piece and figure out how to make the song sound

1145
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: the best way. So I'm doing that. We've got like

1146
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: his one take, but I've done like five different takes

1147
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: of melodies. So I'm going through them all and I'm

1148
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: looking back and I'm like, hey, does this sound good

1149
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: to you? And he looks over he's watching the TV,

1150
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: not paying attention, and I'm like does this sound good?

1151
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: And goes, yeah, yeah, whatever whatever you decide with the hand,

1152
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: And I was like the hand. I was like, okay,

1153
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: So we finally get it. We finally get I finally

1154
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: get the melody takes together. I go sit down. I'm like, okay,

1155
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: let's write. Are you ready to write? He's like yeah, cool,

1156
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: So then we like sit down for maybe two minutes.

1157
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: It's literally two minutes. Here he goes I'm hungry, and

1158
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well we can order some postma. It's like,

1159
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, let's order some food and we can we

1160
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,560
Speaker 1: can eat when it gets here. And he's like, you

1161
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna go eat with my dad. He's here.

1162
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: He just called me and says he wants to have dinner,

1163
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go. And I was like, okay, okay,

1164
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: go ahead and do that. You go ahead and do that.

1165
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: And I was so mad. I will never work with

1166
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: that person again ever, never, ever, ever will I ever?

1167
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: Ye didn't finish the song. So I finished the song.

1168
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: It's a great it's a great song. I wrote the song,

1169
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: I did the melodies together. I don't know, I have

1170
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: no idea, and I hope, I hope, yeah, I hope

1171
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen to anybody else. But I can't say

1172
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: that it won't just because he is very This person

1173
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: is very much into themselves and only themselves. I could

1174
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: understand if it was if I was coming into his session. Okay,

1175
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: I want to go eat now, Okay, what exactly he

1176
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: knocked on my door, not not the other way around.

1177
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: So that was that was last year or a little

1178
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 1: bit early last year, and I just was like, I'm good.

1179
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 1: So the lesson here is when people show you who

1180
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 1: they are believe them, and when they show you their colors,

1181
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: don't try and repaint those colors because it'll just turn

1182
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: to brown. Shit. Don't do it. Don't do it, do

1183
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 1: not do it. Real shit. Yeah you know you mixed

1184
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: all the paint colors and it's just turned brown. Yeah. Yeah. No.

1185
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 1: I And I'm I'm you know me, you remember you

1186
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: see me. I'm very I'm usually very good with being

1187
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: able to give people grace and dealing with stuff. And

1188
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: I was pissed off. I was so mad. But the

1189
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: song that I wrote was really good together because this

1190
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: is what you you've been preparing for, you've been you

1191
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: can deal with because some people just get thrown off.

1192
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: Now the session is messed up. Now you don't find

1193
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 1: it out we fight? Oh no, no, no, no, you

1194
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: know definitely not that. No. I was like, okay, well,

1195
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 1: if you're gonna mess this up for me, I'm going

1196
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to finish it, you know,

1197
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna mess up my I came out

1198
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: here for a reason. And now you understand, budgets exactly

1199
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: exactly like you wasted my time money okay exactly, but yeah,

1200
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: that was that's my no name story. I wish I could,

1201
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: but I won't. I won't do that. I'll let other

1202
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: people discover that good one to know who acted an

1203
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: ass or you might work with him one day and

1204
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: find out yourself. You might mess around to find out.

1205
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: I'll bring my people with me, right, George, were so

1206
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: she could to tell you at the door? No, no, no,

1207
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: no no, you can't do not pass go, do not

1208
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: collect two hundred dollars, do not write a melody. Thank you, San,

1209
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: You're awesome. Thanks. I love saying with you. Guys. This

1210
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: has been great. Yeah, yeah, you're super awesome. You're super fun. Um.

1211
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: I can't imagine anybody anywhere would have a bad thing

1212
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: to say about you, And I think that that's the

1213
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: intangible man, just just you know, being a great person,

1214
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 1: a person that people want to be around, a person

1215
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: that people just you know, want to cheer for, want

1216
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: to see when you and you have the gifts. So, yes,

1217
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: you're cheating, cheating, you're cheating. Shout out to your family.

1218
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: Of course, your loved one is in the building. The

1219
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: baby's awesome. Um, I just I just think you're we're

1220
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: blessed to have you. Thank you. You know, I'm saying

1221
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: whatever you need from us. Thank you always. What we're

1222
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna do, this song happen, We're gonna do once you

1223
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: once you naril down your one six, you figure out

1224
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 1: one you need, you know. But see that's the hard part. Sorry,

1225
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: I know we're done, But that's the part. That's the

1226
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: hard part is trying to narrow it down but also

1227
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: still being creative in the process. Like, we're not going

1228
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: to stop doing sessions, So then can I give you

1229
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: some advice? Yes? Stop? Okay works for me. I'm tired

1230
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 1: because sixty Yeah, you have twenty albums. I do I

1231
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: do that. If you just if you, if we're just

1232
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: talking landscape in terms of streaming and content and all

1233
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: the day, all of this music must see the light

1234
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: of day. I want that. I want that, all of

1235
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: it must see the album week. You know what I'm saying.

1236
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: So album every two weeks, So you're not once a month. Stop,

1237
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 1: you got enough once a month for sure. Dive into

1238
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: dive into what this body of work represents, you know

1239
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like me, I always like to. I

1240
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: like to I like to build the theme first sure,

1241
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: and then put compiled everything that fits into that thing.

1242
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: So I get this, I get to narrow down really

1243
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: really fast. Great records too, they just don't fit into

1244
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: the theme. Yeah, you know what I mean. And then

1245
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: and they give us something. Please, it's coming, It's coming.

1246
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: I want to I'm I'm excited, but no, what what

1247
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: else has been cool is I've in the last like

1248
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: six months, I've put out more songs than I have

1249
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. So I'm proud of myself.

1250
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: So I'm very proud of myself. So my fans are

1251
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: definitely getting They're getting fed. I guess the phrase they're

1252
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: definitely getting fed. People are being fed. Yes, they are

1253
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: breaking that, breaking that bread. Okay, I'm turning those seven

1254
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: loaves and I'm feeding all the five thousands. I'm like,

1255
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: I like when Jesus turned water into into something alcoholic. Man,

1256
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: I love him to keep the man. Thank you guys

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