1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: It is verdic with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: you and Cenator. This might be one of the craziest 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: stories that I've seen in a while. The media and 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Democrats are now urging the White House to pardon a 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: list that they're putting together. They're claiming that it's Trump 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: so ledged enemies lists, but it's not. It's their list 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: of people they're afraid might get in trouble with the law. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: And this is shocking. 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: Well, the fallout from Joe Biden's pardon of Hunter Biden continues. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: One of the things we saw this week is the 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: federal judge overseeing the criminal tax case against Hunter Biden 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: slammed President Joe Biden for his incredibly dishonest press statement 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 3: that accompanied the pardon and laid out that it is 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: completely false and dishonest. We're going to talk about that, 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: and then we're going to talk about what you just 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: mentioned that we are seeing a full on lobbying effort 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 3: by Democrats and by the corporate media. They want Joe 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: Biden to pardon everyone. They want him to issue blanket 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: pardons across the board. It is an incredibly open, brazen 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: invitation for Joe Biden to abuse his power, for him 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: to continue the weaponization of law enforcement. You know, they're 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: two components to weaponization. One is targeting your enemies, but 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: the other is protecting your friends. And the corporate media 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: is being quite open that they want Joe Biden on 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: his way out to protect all of his friends in 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: a way that would be not only utterly corrupt, but 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: without precedent in our nation's history. We're going to break 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: that down in detail. 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's truly incredible, and the list is one with 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: some very very interesting names on it. I want to 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: talk to you real quick about Berna and increased crime 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: and violence around our country has just unfortunately gotten worse, 34 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: and many people the number one thing that they care 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: about is their personal safety and security. And if you 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: have kids or grandkids, maybe they are eighteen or older 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: living you know, off campus at college, maybe they're living 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: on their own an apartment. 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: You worry about them, but they're not twenty one yet. 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: Or maybe you have someone in your family that doesn't 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: feel condable carrying a firearm. 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It started right when he started 73 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: working for Barisma in Ukraine, if you want to timestamp 74 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: this all the way up until basically now, and Democrats 75 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: and the media are saying, Okay, that's not enough. They 76 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: also seem to be wanting to give cover to Joe 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: Biden to pardon everyone with the last name Biden and 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: also give himself a pardon, which there's some issues with 79 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: the law there. I want you to dive into that obviously, 80 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: But are you shocked by how quick they're throwing out 81 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: names of who they're worried about. 82 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: Look, I think they are panicking. I think they are 83 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: terrified about the incoming Department of Justice, about the incoming 84 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: leadership of the FBI. They're terrified about Pam Bondy as 85 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: Attorney General, They're terrified about Cash Battel as the director 86 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: of the FBI, and they're scrambling to seek cover. You know, 87 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: I will say the Hunter Biden pardon it is something 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: that on this podcast we predicted a year ago. In 89 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: January of this year, we predicted that Joe Biden would 90 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 3: pardon Hunter Biden, and in fact we predicted that it 91 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: was going to be in December of twenty twenty four. Well, 92 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: as it so happened, it was December first that Joe 93 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: Biden issued the pardon. He did it after spending an 94 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: entire year lying about it over and over and over again, 95 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: saying he would not pardon Hunter. 96 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 4: He would not pardon Hunter. 97 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: Kareem Jean Pierre, the White House Press Secretary, repeatedly just 98 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: flat out lied. Multiple Democrats went on TV and flat 99 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: out lied. The media flat out lied, and Ben We 100 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: analyzed this in depth in Monday's podcast And by the way, 101 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: if you didn't listen to Monday's podcasts, I'd encourage you 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: to go back and listen to it. 103 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 4: It was one of our most downloaded podcasts. 104 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: We've ever done, because it really it breaks down how 105 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: this was an absolute abuse of power, and it was 106 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: also completely predictable. When Joe was saying, I'm not going 107 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: to pardon Hunter, he was lying. Everybody knew he was lying. 108 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: He knew he was lying, The people listening to him 109 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: knew he was lying, the reporters knew he was lying. 110 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: Kreean Jean Pierre knew he was lying. The Democrat senators 111 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: who echoed those claims knew he was lying. And yet 112 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 3: they were perfectly willing to lie as a political matter. 113 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: And by the way, it even came out since we 114 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: did the last show, reporting now from NBC News, and 115 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: it was also reported by the New York Times that 116 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: they were lying and planning for this pardon all the 117 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: way back in June. And of course they were sources, 118 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: but I mean they were going on TV, including the media, 119 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: which is state sponsored media, when they're doing this, lying 120 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: deliberately the American people knowing that they were already planning 121 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: for this well. 122 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: And it was in June of this year that I 123 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: said on this podcast, the odds that Joe Biden will 124 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: parter pardon Hunter Biden are one one hundred percent. It 125 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: is absolutely certain he is lying, and everyone knows he's lying. 126 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: Now they're quite open about oh yeah, we lied about it. 127 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: Of course we did. 128 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: And they're just trying to say, well, he's just being 129 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: a dad. Every dad loves his son. Wouldn't you do this? 130 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: And let's be clear, Number one, every dad would not 131 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: lie to the American people for a year about it. 132 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: If you were going to do it, then then you 133 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 3: shouldn't lie about it. But number two, this is about 134 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: protecting Joe. This is about protecting his own corruption. And 135 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: I got to say, all right, So the federal judge 136 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: who's overseeing the criminal tax case, Judge Mark Scarcy in California, 137 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: slammed Joe Biden for his statement on the pardon, and 138 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: I got to say the judge's comments, I've never seen 139 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: anything like this. In my twenty plus years of practicing law. 140 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: I've never seen anything remotely like this. Let me read 141 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: to you from the judge's opinion that was issued. For example, 142 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: the President asserts mister Biden quote was treated differently from 143 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: others quote who were late paying their taxes because of 144 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: serious addictions, implying that mister Biden was among those individuals 145 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: who untimely paid taxes due to addiction, but he is not. 146 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: In his pre trial filings, mister Biden represented that he 147 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: quote was severely addicted to alcohol and drugs through May 148 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen. Upon pleading guilty to the charges in 149 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: this case, mister Biden admitted that he engaged in tax 150 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: evasion after this period of addiction by wrongfully deducting his 151 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: business expenses items he knew were personal expenses, including luxury clothing, 152 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 3: escort services, and his daughter's law school tuition. And mister 153 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: Biden admitted that he quote had sufficient funds available to 154 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: him to pay some or all of his outstanding taxes 155 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 3: when they were due, but that he did not make 156 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: payments towards his tax liabilities even quote well after he 157 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: had regained his sobriety, instead electing to quote spend large 158 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: sums to maintain his lifestyle in twenty twenty. By the way, 159 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, that would be when his father, Joe Biden, 160 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: was running for president. According to the President. This is 161 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: going back to Joe Biden's press release that accompanied the pardon. Quote, 162 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: no reasonable person who looks at the facts of mister 163 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: Biden's case can reach any other conclusion than mister Biden 164 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: was singled out only because he is the president's son 165 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: end quote. But two federal judges expressly rejected mister Biden's 166 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: arguments that the government prosecuted mister Biden because of his 167 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 3: familiar relation to the president and the president's own attorney 168 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: general and Department of Justice personnel oversaw the investigation leading 169 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: to the charges. In the President's estimation, this legion of 170 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: civil servants the undersigned included are unreasonable people. In short, 171 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: a press release is not a pardon. The Constitution provides 172 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: the president with broad authority to grant reprieves and pardons 173 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: for offenses against the United States, but nowhere does the 174 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: constitution give the president the authority to rewrite history. I 175 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: gotta say, Ben, I've never seen a federal judge take 176 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: the bark off the sitting president of the United States 177 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: the way that judge did. He just said, Joe Biden 178 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: is flat out lying, and he is dishonest. And I 179 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: gotta say the judge is exactly right. Every word of 180 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: that opinion is absolutely right. And Joe Biden again, understand 181 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 3: for a year when he said he wasn't going to 182 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 3: pardon his son he was lying, and understand today when 183 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: he issued the pardon, Joe Biden is still lying. And 184 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: that's what the federal judge just said unequivocally. 185 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: And they seem to just be laughing in the face 186 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: of justice and laughing in the face of Americans by 187 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: the way, that have been held accountable. There's been a 188 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: lot of whistleblowers that have come forward saying how angry 189 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: they are over this. There's people that have gone to 190 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: jail for less than what Hunter Biden did on the 191 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: tax issues that are talking about how why is it 192 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: that they had to go to jail for years and 193 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: this guy gets to walk. There seems to be a 194 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 2: lot of not just nepotism here, but anger from Americans 195 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: that have had to face the music when they've committed 196 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: many of the same crimes that he was accused of 197 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: committing and have been convicted of. 198 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and not only is the federal judge angry, but 199 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: the IRS whistleblower reacted to Biden's claim, and Townhall reported 200 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: said IRAS whistleblower reacts to Biden's ludicrous claim justifying Hunter's pardon. 201 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: On Sunday night, President Joe Biden issued a sweeping pardon 202 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: for his son Hunter Biden. It covers all potential crimes 203 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: committed between twenty fourteen and twenty twenty four and the 204 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: it and that goes through the quotes. But IRS investigator 205 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: and whistleblower Joseph Ziegler, who testified in twenty twenty three 206 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: about the special treatment being handed to Hunter by the 207 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: Department of Justice, blasted Biden's claims as ludicrous. And here's 208 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: the quote that Ziegler said, quote, I honestly think that's 209 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 3: completely ludicrous. I'm a Democrat, and I'm a person that 210 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: believes in the rule of law. When you look at 211 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: what he was charged with, criminal tax of asion and 212 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: what he pled guilty to. There are thousands of taxpayers 213 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: who honestly file their taxes, they pay their taxes on time, 214 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: and I think they should be disappointed by this because 215 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: they're held to a standard that's different from the political elite. 216 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 3: This was felony conduct after he was sober. It was 217 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: clever that the President's letter didn't bring up any of 218 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: that conduct. I got to say, that's exactly right. 219 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: So you look at this and yes, they're getting the 220 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: I think the White House is pretty clear is getting 221 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: slapped around on the facts. 222 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they. 223 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: Care and what is also out there at all. 224 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're just kind of like, we got 225 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: away with it. We planned to get away with it, 226 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 2: we had an alibi. Were the alibi was that, well, 227 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 2: my son was a drug addict, so therefore he shouldn't 228 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: be held accountable for his actions while we were making 229 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: money while we were exploiting his addiction, which I also 230 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: think is sick on so many different levels that there 231 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: was that many Biden family members taking these amounts of 232 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 2: money in the tens of millions of dollars, knowing that 233 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: they were putting Hunter Biden out there and enabling his 234 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: addiction with the massive payments coming to him while they 235 00:13:58,480 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: knew he was a drug addict. 236 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got to say it, it is reminiscent 237 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: what Joe Biden did with his son Hunter is reminiscent 238 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: of how criminals will sometimes use juveniles to commit crimes 239 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: because they know that juveniles, as a general matter, can't 240 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: be held very accountable. They'll serve minimal prison sentences. So 241 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: you know, drug cartels will use teenagers as drug mules 242 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 3: because they know the juvenile can get off with a 243 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: very light punishment. In this case, Joe Biden was willing 244 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: to use his drug addict son as the bagman, as 245 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: the one collecting all the cash. And to be clear, 246 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: it wasn't just cash that went to Hunter. Hunter made 247 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: millions of dollars. I mean, he was paying for prostitutes 248 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: out of this, He was paying for drugs out of this. 249 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: And to be clear, Hunter was not working for our allies. 250 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: He wasn't working for France or Canada or the United Kingdom. 251 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: He was working for oligarchs, corrupt oligarchs in Russia, in 252 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: Ukraine and communist China. He saw bought out those who 253 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: were enemies of America, and he sold favors from his dad, 254 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: And it was incredibly lucrative and and and and there's 255 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: a cynicism to using someone and and and listen, the 256 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: strategy was always, well, if we get caught, you know, 257 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: blame Hunter. 258 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: Well he's he's an addict. And so that's the problem there. 259 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: It's all about covering up Joe's misconduct. 260 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: That's why this is an issue of public concern. 261 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: If this were just some you know, poor sad Sack 262 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: who was struggling with addiction, we wouldn't be talking about it. 263 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: But it is because this is public corruption by the 264 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 3: president of the United States and by previously the vice 265 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: president of the United States, because much of this corruption 266 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 3: happened while Joe Biden was vice president, and I got 267 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: to say, what's happening now, I've never seen anything like it. 268 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: Democrats and the corporate media, they are openly urging Joe 269 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: Biden issue more pardoned. And we talked about in Monday's podcast, 270 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: how right now Hunter has essentially a carte blanche for 271 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: all any and every crime he has committed, every federal 272 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: crime he's committed for eleven years. 273 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: It's just wiped away. 274 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: And the pardon power is that broad that it can 275 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: do exactly that. But we pointed out that Joe Biden's 276 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: brother faces real exposure. Well, I guess this should have 277 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: been predictable, although I will say maybe I wasn't cynical 278 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: enough because I didn't predict it. 279 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: On Monday's pod. 280 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: Suddenly the media is saying, pardon Joe Biden's brother, Pardon 281 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: Joe Biden himself, Pardon everyone involved in the corruption, Pardon 282 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: everyone involved in the FBI, Pardon everyone who have used 283 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: their power, Pardon everyone who committed any criminal offense whatsoever, 284 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: and I want you to listen to Let's start with 285 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: this is an excerpt from MSNBC this week, urging pardons 286 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,359 Speaker 3: across the board. 287 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 5: Brant of clemency. I hope that President Biden will also 288 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 5: issue reemptive pardons to all of those people threatened by 289 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 5: the unjustice of what will become the Department of Justice 290 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 5: in the Trump administration. That of course includes Jack Smith 291 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 5: and all of his staff, many Department of Justice lawyers. 292 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 5: It includes President Biden himself. Although we don't know that 293 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 5: anyone can legally pardon themselves, he will need a pardon 294 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 5: because he is going to be harassed and charged for 295 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 5: no crimes whatsoever. Donald Trump has promised that. 296 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: If I'm reading this correctly, she just called for Joe 297 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: Biden to pardon his entire administration because they believe that they, 298 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: the entire administration, needs these pardons because of the activities. 299 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: They were involved in. They're literally admitting to criminal activity. 300 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: Well, and unfortunately, this was the most lawless administration we 301 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: have ever seen, and I talked about at the beginning 302 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: of this podcast. There are at least two components of 303 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: weaponizing law enforcement. One component, and the most visible component 304 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: is using law enforcement, using the DOJ. You're using the FBI, 305 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 3: using the CIA, using the alphabet soup of the federal 306 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: government to go after your political opponents, most notably to 307 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: indict and prosecute Donald Trump four separate times, which is 308 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: what the Democrats have done, both federally and at the 309 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: state level, but also using it to go after pro 310 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: life protesters, using it to go after people who engage 311 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: in peaceful protest. On January sixth, using it as an excuse, 312 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: using it to refuse to prosecute people who were violating 313 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: federal law, committing felonies by threatening and protesting outside of 314 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: Supreme Court justices homes Merrick Garland refused to enforce the 315 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: law and just said, no, we don't enforce that law. 316 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: Why because he disagreed with the Supreme Court and he 317 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 3: wanted those judges threatened, he wanted their families. That's one component, 318 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 3: But a second component is protecting the political allies of 319 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: the president, and that weaponization has happened at great level. 320 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 3: Look the IRS whistleblower testified, for example, that the special 321 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: counsel David Weiss that was investigating Hunter Biden was repeatedly 322 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: told there were boundaries he could not look into the 323 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: big guy, he could not look into Joe Biden. That 324 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: they were going to protect Joe Biden, there would be 325 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 3: no investigation. So, for example, the WhatsApp message that Hunter 326 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: Biden texted to the Chinese businessman the Chinese communists saying 327 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: I'm sitting next to my father and you pay us 328 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: millions of dollars right now, or my father is going 329 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: to retaliate against you. Well, the investigator said, listen, we 330 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: would like to subpoena the GPS data for Hunter Biden's 331 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: phone and Joe Biden's phone. You could determine were they 332 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: in fact sitting next to each other or not. There's 333 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: an answer. That answer can be found. It can be 334 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: found through a subpoena. And yet the Biden Justice Department said, no, 335 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 3: we don't want to know if Joe Biden was sitting 336 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: next to Hunter while he was shaking down Chinese communists 337 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: threatening retribution from his father. We don't want to know 338 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: if Joe Biden knew that you're not allowed to ask. 339 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: That's an example of protecting your political allies. Well, now 340 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: the press is being even more brazen. The Democrats are 341 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: being more brazen and saying, look there are a whole 342 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 3: bunch of people who committed lawless conduct, and we're about 343 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: to have a Department of Justice at FBI who is 344 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 3: willing to investigate and criminal conduct and willing to enforce 345 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: the law regardless of party. I don't want them to 346 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: target these guys because they're Democrats. I want them to 347 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: enforce the law. If people committed criminal offenses did so 348 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: deliberately and willingly, they should face consequences. And the Democrats 349 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: are terrified out of their mind, and they are openly 350 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: urging Biden pardon everybody. 351 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: By the way, it's not just the Lady that we 352 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: played earlier. This was clearly an orchestrated effort in the 353 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: last twenty four hours, yes, to normalize this idea. And 354 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 2: I want to go through the list and some of 355 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: the tweets out there and another piece of audio I 356 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: want to play for you. But before I do that, 357 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: I want to tell you about our friends over at 358 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: Patriot Mobile. 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And then they added Joe Biden to the list, 405 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: and then the list just started expanding to like everyone 406 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: that worked for him that may have done something wrong 407 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: or illegal. Alex Majorkis, for example, was on the list, 408 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: James call me on the list, Andrew McCabe on the list. 409 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: Peter Struck, you may remember that guy who said we're 410 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: gonna stop back in sixteen, We're gonna stop Downald Trump 411 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: from becoming president. Brus or Nellie or Rod Rosenstein. And 412 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: then an expanded from there to the point where The 413 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: Atlantic has an article saying there needs to be mass pardons. 414 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: And this conversation took place on MSNBC. 415 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 6: You argued, we defend norms by defending norms, not preaching them. 416 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 6: A lot of happens between now and then. And I 417 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 6: wonder how you're thinking about the president's pardon power today 418 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 6: and how he should wield it. 419 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 7: Well. 420 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 8: Back in twenty seventeen, I thought that Trump was an aberration, 421 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 8: an unusual and. 422 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 7: Black swan, if you will. 423 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 8: And my thought was that you had to defend the 424 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 8: norms of the rule of law, the governance, and the 425 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 8: only way to do that was to maintain them even 426 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 8: in the face of. 427 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 7: His aberrational behavior. 428 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 8: Today, I think we know that Trump is not an aberration. 429 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 8: He's a phenomenon, he's a movement, and as such, what 430 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 8: we have to do is recalibrate how we respond to that. 431 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 7: And it now strikes me as. 432 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 8: Essential to at least begin to play to the edge 433 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 8: of the field, to go as far as the law 434 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 8: permits in combating the authoritarian excesses of Trump. 435 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 7: And the way I wrote about in The Atlantic is 436 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 7: the pardon power. 437 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 8: A pardon for Hunter Biden, a pardon for Trump's critics 438 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 8: would be completely normative breaking, and it would be out 439 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 8: of character, out of historical tradition. But at this point 440 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 8: I was listening to your earlier your earlier broadcast. You 441 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 8: were talking about kash Fittel. He's got a list of 442 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 8: sixty people he wants to prosecute. 443 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 7: That's a real list. Will he do all of them? 444 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 7: I don't know. Will there be resistance of the FBI? 445 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 8: Probably, But one of the realities of being investigated is 446 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 8: that investigation has a cost, even if you're not prosecuted. 447 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 7: In the end. 448 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 8: You have to hire a lawyer, the mental cost, the time, 449 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 8: the resources, And so it strikes me as perfectly reasonable 450 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 8: to ask, what can President Biden do within the bounds 451 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 8: of law, even if it would not be normatively traditional 452 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 8: to save his allies from that. And the answer is obviously, 453 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 8: pardon them. 454 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 2: Let's just stop there, And he said more but let's 455 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: just die. Let's break that down. Senator, he's saying, it's 456 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: personally perfectly reasonable for Biden to pardon any Trump critic 457 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 2: and says, well, it's a cost issue because you'll have 458 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: to get a lawyer. Well, no crap, Like everybody around 459 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: Trump knows that they tried to financially break so many 460 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: people around Donald Trump that worked to the White House 461 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 2: tried to financially ruin them. I have friends I'm not 462 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: going to say their names who worked at the White 463 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: House who were strapped with legal bills over a half 464 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: a million dollars just having to answer questions in and 465 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: around what happened on January sixth, even though they weren't 466 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 2: involved in it. 467 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: Look, that's absolutely right. 468 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: But I got to say, the hypocrisy is even more 469 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: rich than that. So the person, the man whose voice 470 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: you're hearing is a guy named Paul Rosenwick. Now, who 471 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: is Paul Rosenwick. Well, he was a deputy Assistant secretary 472 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 3: in the Department of Homeland Security under George W. 473 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 4: Bush and listen, I know Paul. 474 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: A little bit. 475 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: I don't know him well, but I know him socially 476 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 3: around DC lawyer circles. He wears a bow tie every 477 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: day and he was one of the like he would 478 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: run around Federalist Society events and he he was part 479 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: of the sort of Republican lawyer cadre during the George W. 480 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 4: Bush campaign. 481 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: He is also someone who Donald Trump has broken his 482 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: brain and Trump derangement syndrome is a very real phenomenon, 483 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: and he is he is now advocating that Biden pardon everybody, 484 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 3: Pardon every critic of Trump, Pardon every member of the cabinet, 485 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 3: Pardon his entire family, Pardon anyone who may have committed 486 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: any crime, because he doesn't want anybody to be held 487 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: account for breaking the law. Now I'm going to tell 488 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: you what the particular irony is. Paul Rosenwig is also 489 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: one of the leaders of a group called the sixty 490 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: five Project. Now what is the sixty five project? It 491 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: is this left wing group and it's Paul Rosenwig, and 492 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: it's also David Brock, who was Hillary Clinton's attack dog, 493 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 3: who went a filing complaints trying to get Republican lawyers 494 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: disbarred for supporting Donald Trump and Paul Rosenwike. His group 495 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: filed a complaint with the Texas Bar asking that I 496 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 3: be disbarred. 497 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: Understand this guy way before the Texas Bar. 498 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: I remember that story. But this is the guy that 499 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: was actually doing it. 500 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, he was doing it. 501 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: And so I'm going to read to you from the 502 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: New York Times story when they filed this complaint, and 503 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: it says, this is a quote from the complaint quote, 504 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: mister Cruse played a leading role in the effort to 505 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: overturn the twenty twenty elections. And while the same can 506 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: be said about several other elected officials, mister Cruse's involvement 507 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: was manifestly different. This is what the complaint says. He 508 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: chose to take on the role of lawyer and agreed 509 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: to represent mister Trump and Pennsylvania Republicans in litigation before 510 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: the US Supreme Court. In doing so, mister Cruz moved 511 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 3: beyond his position as United States Senator and sought to 512 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 3: use more than his Twitter account and media appearances to 513 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: support mister Trump's anti democratic mission. So understand their complaint 514 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: is that when I was asked when the appeal in 515 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty challenging Pennsylvania's violating the Pennsylvania Constitution and changing 516 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: the law in Pennsylvania. When that was appealed to the 517 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: Supreme Court, I was asked, if the court takes it, 518 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: would you be willing to argue the case? And Donald 519 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: Trump asked me that, and I said, yes, if the 520 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: Court takes it, if four justices decide they want to 521 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: hear this case, and I believe they should have heard 522 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: the Pennsylvania case, that I'll do the oral argument. Their argument, 523 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: Paul Rosenwagg's argument is because I said yes I would 524 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: represent a client before the Supreme Court, I should be disbarged. 525 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: So he's talking about the cost of frivolous complaints at 526 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: attacking people. 527 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 4: Well, he was one of the point people doing it. 528 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: And by the way, thankfully the Texas Bar is not 529 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: an insane, woke nest of lunatic. 530 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 4: And so what did the Texas Bar do. 531 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: They threw their complaint out as frivolous and baseless, so 532 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 3: it got thrown out. 533 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 4: It was absurd. 534 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: But this is someone who was asking that I be 535 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 3: barred from practicing law. And by the way, this group 536 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: has gone after over and over and over again, lawyers 537 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: who dared to represent Donald Trump. So they're willing. When 538 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: we talk about weaponization, weaponization of law enforcement, and weaponization 539 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 3: of law I got to say Paul rosenwagg is a 540 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: great example of that. He's happy to go and attack 541 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: and try to bankrupt people. You mentioned the look at 542 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: the end of the day, if they come after me, 543 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: I am a sitting senator, I have the ability to 544 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: raise money, I can defend myself. I am not a 545 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: particularly faint flower. I am not a vulnerable person who 546 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 3: if they want to come after me, let's go. And 547 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: they're going to regret picking that fight. But they're a 548 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: bunch of people in the Trump administration who twenty somethings 549 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: or thirty somethings. 550 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: They were young. 551 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: People, and these bastards when after them tried to bankrupt them. 552 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: They had hundreds of thousands or more in legal expenses 553 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: and they tried to make it. And by the way, 554 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 3: these are the same people that publicly said if you 555 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: worked for Trump, we're gonna do everything we can to 556 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: make you unemployable. To pressure law firms, they shouldn't hire you. 557 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: To pressure companies, they shouldn't hire you. They wanted to 558 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: destroy anyone who was willing to work with Donald Trump. 559 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 4: That's the viciousness. 560 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: And at the same time, they're urging Joe Biden pardon 561 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: everybody because people who actually committed felonies, we don't want 562 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: them investigated, and we certainly don't want them prosecuted. 563 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: It's amazing the lawfair here. 564 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: And I want you to hear the second part of 565 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 2: what he had to say as well, because this goes 566 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: back to I think the broader theme here, which is 567 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: everyone that we believe that may have done something wrong, 568 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: we need to protect them now so that Republicans cannot 569 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: look at the crimes that we committed and prosecute us. 570 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: Keep listening, Yeah. 571 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 6: I mean it seems to you, and I think to 572 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 6: other folks as well, that the argument about the institutional 573 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 6: preservation in this moment is best relegated to academics, and 574 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 6: that in reality, it's time to play political hardball. 575 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 7: And it sounds like you're extending that. 576 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 6: Not just to the pardon power, but to other levers 577 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 6: that the Democrats might be able to pull. I'll read 578 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 6: an excerpt from your Atlantic piece. It has become painfully 579 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 6: self evident. The democratic self restraint is a form of 580 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 6: unilateral disarmament that neither persuades Trump to refrain from bad 581 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 6: behavior nor wins points among the undecided. It is time, 582 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 6: well past time for responsible Democrats to use every tool 583 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 6: in their tool kit. Does any part of that, I 584 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 6: guess worry you, you know, I mean one it could 585 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 6: have said the Democrats when they were in control the 586 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 6: cenationship have gotten rid of the filibuster and done stuff. Well, 587 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 6: now it seems like the philibuster is the only thing 588 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 6: that's actual are going to stop Trump from enacting probably 589 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 6: the broadest, most pernicious parts of his agenda. So how 590 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 6: do you, I mean, how do you think about the 591 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 6: cost benefit analysis here? 592 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 7: Well, of course it worries me. It has to. 593 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 8: It has to worry any sensible thinking person to argue 594 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 8: for breaching norms that have guided our country for two 595 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 8: hundred and fifty years. On the other hand, I don't 596 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 8: think the democratic self restraint is what is going to 597 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 8: stop Trump from acting. 598 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 7: If in the end, Trump and the Republican. 599 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 8: Majority think that the filibuster is a barrier to whatever 600 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 8: it is that they want, for example, they're going to 601 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 8: get rid of it anyway, whether or not the Democrats 602 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 8: had done so in the in the prior Congress, and 603 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 8: so it strikes me as essential to begin trying to 604 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 8: take steps that can't be reversed or irreversible steps in 605 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 8: defense of say, voting rights, for example, expanding the franchise 606 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 8: guaranteeing fed really against state entrepreneces. We would still have 607 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 8: to contend, obviously with the Supreme Court. But for two 608 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 8: years the Democrats had a majority from both houses, and 609 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 8: instead of doing transgressive, normative things like changing the electoral 610 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 8: rules to prevent Trump's cheating, they did normal democratic things. 611 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 8: They passed the Inflation Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Act, 612 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 8: and all good things, I'm sure from their perspective. 613 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 7: But they thought that that. 614 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 8: Would be how to reclaim America, and turned out they 615 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 8: were wrong. 616 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: I mean, centaer As, you just listened to this. Do 617 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: you want to talk about the threats to democracy? Holy crap. 618 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 3: So look, I gotta admit I don't know this bow 619 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: tide clown. I've met him once or twice over the 620 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 3: last twenty years, but I don't know him at any 621 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: personal level. But he is I They're deliberately dishonest or 622 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 3: profoundly ignorant because like one statement he made there that 623 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 3: is just laughing, laughably false. He's like, well, if Trump 624 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: wants to get rid of the filibuster, he just will. 625 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna quantify to you. So I said six months ago, 626 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 3: the odds that Joe Biden will grant a part pardon 627 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden were one hundred percent. I'm gonna give you 628 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 3: the odds that the filibuster will be ended in the 629 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 3: next two years with the Republican majority in the Senate, 630 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 3: and they are the obverse of one hundred percent. They 631 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 3: are zero point zero zero zero zero zero percent. There 632 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: is literally not a point zero zero zero zero zero 633 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: one percent chance it is. It will not happen. There 634 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: are not ten votes to end the filibuster. And he's 635 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 3: just that there's something about Trump derangement syndrome that that 636 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: that that that it's bizarre and pathological, that that that 637 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: all people afflicted with it can say is orange man bad, 638 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 3: arch man bad. And and there's also look, I gotta say, 639 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 3: Sigmund Freud has got to be spinning in his grave 640 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: because the left and the never Trump and unfortunately the 641 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: never Trump Republicans is a really tiny sliver of kind 642 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 3: of DC folks who've lost their minds, but they engage 643 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 3: in a degree of Freudian projection that is amazing. So, 644 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 3: for example, all of these people beat their chest and 645 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 3: say we love democracy, but they also are saying, well, 646 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: they're aspects of Trump's agenda that are horrific. Well, there 647 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 3: was an election in November and the voters voted for Trump, 648 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 3: and he laid out what his agenda was, and the 649 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: voters said, yeah, that's what we want. There were seven 650 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 3: battleground states. Donald Trump won all seven. It wasn't close, 651 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 3: it wasn't ambiguous. It was a clear and overwhelming result. 652 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 3: And they also gave Republicans the majority in the Senate, 653 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 3: in the House. And you know what, MSNBC, they don't 654 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 3: care about democracy. These never Trump loans. They don't care 655 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 3: about democracy. They don't care about the mandate from the 656 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 3: people that the voters have decided. They're not saying, you 657 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 3: know what, the voters decided they agree with this agenda. 658 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 3: They want the border secured, they want integrity restored to 659 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice of the FBI. They don't care 660 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 3: about that. And I've got to say, you know, I'm reminded, 661 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 3: so so do you remember at the end of the 662 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 3: Trump first term. There were lots of stories, and by 663 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 3: the way, MSNBC breathlessly reported it about Republicans who were 664 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 3: coming to Trump and saying, please give me a pardon, 665 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 3: Please give me a pardon. And all these different Republicans 666 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 3: were allegedly mostly House Republicans, were alleged to have asked 667 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 3: for a pardon. 668 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 4: And by the way that it. 669 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: Was twenty four to seven, they were losing their minds. 670 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 3: And there were reporters who claimed that I wanted a pardon, 671 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 3: and let me be clear, that was always utter bs. 672 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: Not only did I not want to parton, not only 673 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: did I not ask for a pardon, but if Trump 674 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 3: had asked me, hey, should I pardon you, I would say, hell, no, 675 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 3: I haven't committed any came. I don't want to pardon. 676 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 3: People who want pardons are people who who have likely 677 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 3: committed crimes. 678 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 4: And no, absolutely not. But it was all made up. 679 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 3: It was an entirely fanciful fantasy. But and look, I 680 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 3: don't know there may have been some individual House members 681 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 3: who asked for it. I don't know about that, but 682 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 3: I can tell you the press was breathlessly reporting all 683 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 3: these Republicans that we're seeking pardons. And the irony is 684 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 3: what is happening right now, you said at the outset 685 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: of this pod. 686 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 4: And this is important. 687 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: This is orchestrated, This is concertive, This is not spontaneous. 688 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 3: There has been a decision made by Democrats and by 689 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,439 Speaker 3: the corporate media. We're going to try to number one, 690 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 3: pressure Joe Biden to give pardons to everybody. But number two, 691 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: we're going to try to normalize it by talking about, Hey, 692 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 3: isn't this a great idea, Let's just pardon everyone? 693 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 4: And why? 694 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 3: And their reason is pardon everybody because Orange man bad 695 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 3: that that is their only reasoning, and it is Sigmund 696 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 3: Freud would be amazed at the level of projection. They 697 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 3: are literally doing exactly what they claim Republicans falsely claim 698 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: Republicans were doing. 699 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: I will say this what worries me the most about 700 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: this Senator, and will end with this, But I do 701 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: want to get your reaction is that if they do this, 702 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: does it not signal to Democrats in the future when 703 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 2: they get control of the White House. Just abuse your power, 704 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 2: do whatever the hell you want to do. Go after 705 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 2: your political enemies, and you can expect a pardon for 706 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: any crimes you commit. 707 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 3: Well, listen, that's been signaled already. As you know, I 708 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 3: wrote an entire book entitled Justice Corrupted, How the Left 709 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 3: is weaponized the legal system, and it talked about how 710 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 3: Barack Obama that what Richard Nixon attempted to do, Barack 711 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 3: Obama succeeded in doing. He weaponized the federal government. And 712 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 3: then when Trump became president, these hardcore partisans burrowed in 713 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 3: to the career positions and they waged war on Donald Trump. 714 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 4: They tried to destroy the president. 715 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 3: They hated the fact that the voters had elected him, 716 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: and they wanted to stop him from implementing the policies 717 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 3: the voters had elected him to implement. And now under 718 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, they're open and brazen. Alejandro Majorcis may be 719 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: the single most lawless cabinet member who has ever served 720 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 3: in our nation's history. And that is a remarkable statement. 721 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 3: And so of course these radicals want Mayorcis to get 722 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 3: a pardon because if he's committed criminal activities, they don't 723 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 3: want him held to account. They want no accountability whatsoever. 724 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 3: And listen, this is the same you think about it. 725 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 3: In four years of the Biden administration, how many people 726 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 3: has he fired none that I'm right, I don't know 727 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: of a single one, including everyone in charge of the 728 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 3: disastrous Afghanistan withdraw that was an absolute debui was it 729 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 3: did enormous damage to US national security, and nobody was fired. 730 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 3: Nobody lost their job. You look at the disasters, you 731 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: look at the people in charge of the border. The 732 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 3: people in charge of the border presided over the largest 733 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 3: invasion at our southern border, our nation's history, the worst 734 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 3: illegal immigration in our nation's history, and nobody lost their job. 735 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 3: You literally wonder what the hell does someone have to 736 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,959 Speaker 3: do in this administration to lose their job. Well, now 737 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: it turns out not only do they want nobody to 738 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 3: ever lose their job, they want Biden to issue pardons 739 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: so that nobody who committed federal crimes is ever, ever, 740 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: ever held accountable. This is chapter two of the politicization 741 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 3: and weaponization of law enforcement. 742 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: It really is. 743 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 2: We're gonna keep covering it, We're gonna keep talking about this, 744 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: and make sure you share this podcast wherever you can 745 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 2: on social media. That's why we do the show so 746 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 2: others can hear it as well. Thank you for supporting us. 747 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 2: As always, we do this show Monday Wednesdays in to 748 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: hit that subscriber auto download button and the center and 749 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 2: I will be back with you on Friday morning.