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You'd call in you 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: may you can come on the air and complain and 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: lecture the rest of the world. Eight seven seven Moist 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: eighty six. There's a talkback feature on the iHeart app, 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: and if you want to follow us on social media, 14 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: it's at John Cobelt Radio. All right, Now, Columbia is 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: such a mess, and this stuff is going to continue 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: for a long time at all the universities, over years, 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: with over many different issues. The issue almost doesn't even matter. 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: It's that you had a complete breakdown of adults being 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: in charge, totally abdicating any responsibility to keep a campus 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: in order so that most of the kids can get 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: their work done and take their final exams. That is 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: the purpose of most of the universities this time of year, 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 2: kids finishing up classes, preparing to take exams, all right, 24 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: and then in a few weeks graduations. That's the job 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: of the administrators to keep the place orderly safe so 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: that people can study. And instead they have let basically 27 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: people acting like zoo animals running around acting violently. Last 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: night of Columbia, they smashed into the administration building. I'm 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: with a hammer smashing the windows, and they took over 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: the administrative offices. 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: So the buffoons, and I mean buffoons that. 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: Run the university now don't have an office to do 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: whatever it. 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: Is they do all day. I don't know what they 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: do all day. 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if they drink all day and rub 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: themselves up with oils and lotions and they have orgies. 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if they get stoned, if they're snorting meth, 39 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: taking LSD tabs. I don't know how they spend their day. 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: But their policies are absolutely idiotic. And with the demonstrators, 41 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: I want to know how many of these are foreign students, 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: how many of these are kids, kids, adults are here 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: on foreign visas student visas because in a rational world, 44 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: we ought to find out and deport them. They should 45 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: not only be suspended, expelled, arrested, jailed. Some of them 46 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: ought to be deported. You know what's going on here. 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 2: We've been infiltrated. We've been infiltrated by foreign groups who 48 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: are bent on destabilizing and ruining our society. This has 49 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: been going on now for several years, and every issue, 50 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: some of them fake, some of them legitimate, keeps ratcheting 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: up and ratcheting up, and so now students whose families 52 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: have paid close to four hundred thousand dollars it's over 53 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: ninety grand to go to Columbia for room and board 54 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: and tuition, all the other price gouging that major universities 55 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: inflict on parents. You're paying almost four hundred thousand dollars 56 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: and you can't take final exams in peace. And I 57 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: don't know where everybody is. The administrators are really weak, silly, 58 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: crazy people. There's something wrong with them. The progressive woke 59 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: movement has created a species that I don't recognize. I 60 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: never have encountered people like this who give up one 61 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: of the great universities in the nation to criminals who's 62 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: spouting death to Jews. They want all the Jews killed, 63 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: They want the nation of Israel destroyed, and they want 64 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: to do it from thousands of miles away. 65 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: They have no impact. 66 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: I just heard a new story today Benjamin Not in 67 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: Yahoo says, whether they have a cease fire or not, 68 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: whether they get hostages back or not, they are going 69 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: to go into Rafa and finish off Amas. They're going 70 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: to do it, basically, whether anyone likes it or not. 71 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: So all this is symbolic, performative nonsense. They're not stopping 72 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: the war and stuff they're screaming about. It's like, oh, 73 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: they have to divest. In other words, they want Columbia, 74 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: which has billions of dollars invested, to withdraw any stock 75 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: they own in a company that makes weapons. And the 76 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: weapons end up in Israel's hands, either Israel's buying them 77 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: or We're shipping them, and so they want Columbia to 78 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: what's that. 79 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: Going to do? 80 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 4: But also, John, how hypocritical, right they're calling on that? 81 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 4: But yet they're smashing windows. I mean they're violent there. 82 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 4: I mean it's one thing if you're being peaceful, but 83 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 4: they're not. 84 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 5: They're not. 85 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: Their actions are violent. Their rhetoric is violent. And all 86 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: the adults are standing and looking. You don't see any 87 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: police there because they can't go on They can't go 88 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,679 Speaker 2: on property unless Columbia invites them. Well, at what point 89 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: is the crime so bad that the police are mandated 90 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: to go Because we're going to hit that point. 91 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: I just saw on TV that they are. 92 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: They have a milk rate and they have pulleys, and 93 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: they're pulling the milk crate up to the top floor 94 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: of the administration building. And these jackasses with their stupid 95 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: masks and their head gear are coming out and taking 96 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: supplies out of the milk rate. I don't know if 97 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: it's pizza, I don't know if it's weapons, and nobody 98 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: stops it. Play a cut here by an anti Israeli 99 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: protester talking to a Fox News reporter about Columbia students 100 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: who held the janitor hostage. 101 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: How do you feel about them taking over the building 102 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 3: right now? 103 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 5: I think that their cause is a just cause, and 104 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 5: I hope that the administration really hears their demand. 105 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 6: I think they're just demands. 106 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: Do you feel like it was right to hold three 107 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 3: of the janitor workers hostage within side of the building. 108 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 6: I think that's a really false narrative. 109 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: That's what they the janitors are saying that they weren't 110 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: allowed to leave. 111 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 6: I think that that's a really false narrative. 112 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: Even if the janitors are saying that, you're saying that. 113 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 6: That's not true. 114 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 5: I think that it's a really false narrative that the 115 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: students took anyone hostage. 116 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: How do you feel about some of the Jewish students 117 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: saying that they don't feel safe here on campus. 118 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: I think that this is also a really false narrative 119 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 5: that's being promoted. 120 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: Do you think October seventh and the attack that happened 121 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: is a false nuity? Do you believe that some of 122 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: the women were raped? 123 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 6: College just came back? 124 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: So this is what happened. 125 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 6: Can you get out of my face? Please? 126 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: So this is what you see at these these protests. 127 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: Once you get into the nitty gritty of what happened 128 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: on October to seventh, the rape of women, what's happening. 129 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: They deny what happened. As you know that it's actually 130 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: factual now that the janitorial workers were blocked inside of 131 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: the building, And anytime you bring that up, the Jewish 132 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: calls the Jewish people, the kids that feel unsafe on campus. 133 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: They denied the reality of the guys. 134 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: And that's a Fox News reporter. Somebody brings that up. 135 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, she's a terrorist. There's no point in talking 136 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: to her. You're not going to get the answers that 137 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: a normal person would. She's a terrorist. She's financed by 138 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: somebody who is promoting evil and promoting destruction and intentionally 139 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: creating unrest. And no, she doesn't care if Israeli women 140 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: are raped, she doesn't care if Israeli babies are baked 141 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: in ovens. She doesn't care about Israeli families being shot 142 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: to death and slashed and stabbed. She is a psychopathic terrorist. 143 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: Now who is she and how did she get into 144 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: the country or was she born here? 145 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: And where was she raised by? Who? Who are the 146 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: parents here? Who are there? 147 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: Like I said, there's no adults available anywhere, There's no 148 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the faculty is joining the protests at many 149 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: of these colleges. The administrators are playing dead, the parents 150 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: are nowhere to be seen. The police stand around all 151 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: day waiting for orders that never come. All you have 152 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: in charge is people who are chemically mentally unbalanced, violent, 153 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: and and and their criminals. I mean, this janitor situation. 154 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 2: How many felonies is that kidnapping? Those are kidnapping charges, 155 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: and nobody cares about anything. Nobody cares about murder, rape, kidnapping. 156 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: H a school where no one can go to class anymore. 157 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: This is what all the woke progressive ideas have bought 158 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: right up, brought it right up to this moment. Absolutely nothing. 159 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: That is complete anarchy. And you don't see anybody. You 160 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: don't see any politicians coming forward, You don't see any 161 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: leaders in any sector coming together and saying enough of this. 162 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: When is the enough is enough moment? There isn't one. 163 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: This is just fascinating. And like I said before, they 164 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: scream about divestiture, about selling stock. Somebody's gonna buy that 165 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: stock and Columbia will make a profit on it. It's 166 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: not going to take down any companies making Columbia sell stock. 167 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: It's a fake issue. Oh this is fake. This is 168 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: about anarchy. This is about making our country unstable, unsafe, 169 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: and to ruin it. And if it wasn't this issue, 170 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: it would be the George Floyd issue. If wasn't George Floyd, 171 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: it would be transgenders. If wasn't transgenders, it would be 172 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: climate change. This one will fade and another one will 173 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: come tomorrow. It'll be Trump because the mission is not 174 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: these separate issues. The mission is to make the country 175 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: unstable and unlivable. And we've gotten infiltrated. This is financed 176 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: by groups and people, a lot of them are out 177 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: of the country. And what a rational person would do, 178 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: a rational leader would start deportation proceedings, arrests, jail, figure 179 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: out where they're getting their money from, who they are, 180 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: who they're related to, what's behind this. We've been infiltrated. 181 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: You'll see eventually it'll come out. Well, we come back. 182 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: We're going to talk with a reporter from NewsNation and 183 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: he's at the scene at Columbia. National correspondent Rich McHugh 184 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: is next from News Nation. 185 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI am 186 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 7: six forty bye. 187 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: Momentarily, we're going to get Rich mcew on if not 188 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: this segment, next segment. He's in the middle of it. 189 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: National correspondent for News Nation, the cable news network. It's 190 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: actually a really good news network. And he's at Columbia 191 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: University and the protests are completely out of hand. Now 192 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: you have these terrorist schoons that have smashed their way in. 193 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: UH. 194 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: They've had they've had hostages along the way. They apparently 195 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: uh refused to let janitors out of the building. They 196 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: made it to the top floor where the administrator's offices are, 197 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: and now they're pulling in food and supplies through the 198 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: windows and their their their whole purpose in life is 199 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: to completely undermine the functioning of the university. And they 200 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: picked a good one. They picked a good one at 201 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: Columbia's because there's absolutely no administrators interested in taking charge. 202 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: None. 203 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: They had deadlines that they threatened these kids with going 204 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: back to Friday, right up to what yesterday at two o'clock, 205 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: and the students blew through all the deadlines. Of course 206 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: they would, because nothing was enforced. These are toddlers. You're 207 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: dealing with emotionally unbalanced toddlers, and they're caught up now 208 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: in like some kind of emotional orgy of hatred and violence, 209 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: and with their stupid masks. I mean, for God's sakes, 210 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: the COVID masks are back and I'm looking at I'm 211 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: looking at some live footage right now and they're standing. 212 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: A lot of them are women too, And this is 213 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: really an interesting species of really angry, violent, nasty women 214 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: who want Jews dead. That's really fascinating. Where did this come? 215 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: Where are these people from? Are they all Americans? They 216 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 2: grow up and we're raised here. I bet you a 217 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: lot of them aren't. And a lot of them maybe 218 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: ought to be investigated for deportation. This is what diversity 219 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: is about. Now. 220 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: Are they wearing masks because they're afraid of COVID or 221 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: because they want to disguise their faces? 222 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: Disguise their faces and it's also been a political statement. 223 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: Masks seem to show up with a lot of progressive groups, 224 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: but they also I think primarily are for disguises because 225 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: they hear the threats that they're going to be suspended 226 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: or expelled and they don't want to be publicly identified. 227 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: They look, this is this is nothing but a group 228 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: mental illness. There there's many books and I've read some 229 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: of them on the dynamics of a mob, A dynamics 230 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: a group think mental illness. You know, we've seen this 231 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: all our lives. It happens all over the world somewhere 232 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: where a mob becomes its own violent organism. And they 233 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: don't think this is not I keep hearing people say, 234 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: what do they think they're not thinking. They're reacting a 235 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: lot the way animals do. Watch if you watch some 236 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: nature videos, when animals get in a group, there's there 237 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: really is a herd mentality that that phrase excess, that fray, 238 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: that phrase exists for a reason, and they get all 239 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: pumped up with their four months all the chemicals the 240 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: court dissolved, which is one of the stress chemicals that 241 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: the body produces, and people's faces swell up, turn red. 242 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: And when you are in a state like that, when 243 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,479 Speaker 2: you're in an angry state like that, it's short circuits 244 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: the logic centers of your brain. People usually don't think 245 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: very clearly when they're really angry. We've all dealt with 246 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: angry people right in our homes, at work, in public situations. 247 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: Angry people are not using their intellects. Angry people are 248 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: flooding their brain with all sorts of chemicals that make 249 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: them violent and aggressive. So what you're dealing with is 250 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: like an animalistic response, and it's a waste of time 251 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: to spend all day analyzing them and what are their 252 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: demands and what are they thinking, and what is their philosophy? 253 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: There is no philosophy in that moment. There is no thinking. 254 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: But also you know how you say that many of 255 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: these these students and non students don't even know what 256 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: they're protesting about. Well, a lot of people say, well, 257 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 4: how did Hitler come to power? 258 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: Right? 259 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: A lot of people. And I remember I remember as 260 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: a kid, I watched this after school special I'll never 261 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 4: forget it. It was on ABC, and it was a true 262 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: story about a history teacher who did this experiment and 263 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: it was called the Wave, and it showed how people 264 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: are such followers and just follow no matter what it is. 265 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: And you can see with what's going on now, how 266 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: people are just following and not even knowing what they're thinking. 267 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: About basic acounimal behavior. I was telling you off the 268 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: air the other day. 269 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: I've been watching this documentary Nature documentary on gorillas, and. 270 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. 271 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: There will be a couple of gorillas in the pack, 272 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: will assert themselves as leaders, as alpha males, and they 273 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: fight gorillas in the other part of the jungle. I 274 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 2: think in Uganda, and there was the central gorillas and 275 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: then there was the western gorillas. And the western gorillas 276 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: would come over and steal the fruit from the fruit 277 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: trees in the central region, and the central gorilla said, no, 278 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: that's all those are our trees and our fruit. And 279 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: the leaders would get angry, and they had a bunch 280 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: of followers and they you know, they'd maul each other 281 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: to fight over the fruit. Well, that's what you saw 282 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: in Germany. That's there's a few leaders in Hitler was 283 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: a very powerful, charismatic genius. Every once in a while 284 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: somebody describes as amgenius. 285 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: How could you say? Because he was. 286 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: He knew how to motivate large groups of people and 287 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: get them to kill millions. That is a specific kind 288 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: of evil talent. And there's always ready followers for anything 289 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: like that, as long as there's group, because you feel 290 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: protected in a group and you cover for each other. 291 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: And that's what you have here. 292 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: You have people who feel protected because they're in a group. 293 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: There's absolutely no consequence for what they do. They have 294 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: been taught in their schooling, in their homes. 295 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: I guess that. 296 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: And this starts young. It's not just the wacky colleges. 297 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: This starts going into their homes. You don't see any 298 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: parents showing up here trying to take their sons and 299 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: daughters and begging them not to spend the day at 300 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: Columbia chant to kill the Jews. Nobody's showing up and 301 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: expressing their disappointment with out their son and daughter turned 302 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: out this is what they got from home. 303 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: All right. 304 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 2: You've got the people in Palestine. The little kids are 305 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: taught every day that Jews are pigs, Jews are dirty, 306 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: Jews should die. Well, you teach that every day, ninety 307 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: percent of them will believe that, and they're ready to 308 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: join Hamas by time they turn seventeen. So that's why 309 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: this idea there's an innocent Palestinian. Now they're not so 310 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: innocent because all the Hamas soldiers are young men. 311 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: They were created by fathers and mothers and programmed to 312 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: be this way. I got to go. 313 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI A SI. 314 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: Let's go right now to New York City of Columbia. 315 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: The national correspondent for News Nation, which is a really 316 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: good cable news channel, Rich Mheugh is there and it's 317 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: going to tell us what's going on. 318 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 8: Rich, Thanks for having me. 319 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: What's the state of the world there right now? 320 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 8: Well, it's a bit of chaos. I'll say that I've 321 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 8: been here for several weeks now, covering this two and 322 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 8: a half weeks and things just kind of got out 323 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 8: of control in the past two days. So just to 324 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 8: set the scene, yesterday, university set a deadline for students 325 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 8: in the encampment to evacuate the encampment or faith student 326 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 8: disciplinary action. They did not, and basically they vowed in 327 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 8: unison to stay there. Last night overnight around one am, 328 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 8: students from the encampment moved to Hamilton Hall, which is 329 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 8: like a main academic hub on campus where a lot 330 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 8: of the classes are adjacent to the encampment. They broke 331 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 8: in to Hamilton Hall using hammers and then barricaded, you know, 332 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 8: dozens of them barricaded themselves into Hamilton Hall. And that's 333 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 8: what they've been ever since. The university did not call 334 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 8: in the New York Police Department. I spoke with the 335 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 8: New York Police Department this morning. They said, look, we're 336 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 8: we have not been contacted by Columbia University. We are 337 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 8: at already and waiting to develop a plan if they 338 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 8: should need our help. The history on that is they 339 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 8: were called in two weeks ago, and when they were 340 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 8: they made one hundred and something arrest I think it 341 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 8: was one hundred and eight arrests. Columbia received a lot 342 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 8: of blowback from that, for from faculty and students, and 343 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 8: in an email last week they said, we're not going 344 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 8: to do that again. So they've ultimately painted themselves into 345 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 8: a corner and now another student protesters have ratchet up 346 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 8: to this untenable position occupying with building what. 347 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: What they got? 348 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: They got blowback from who don't most of the students 349 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: want to go to class and finish their exams. 350 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: So what percentage of the school is giving them a blowback? 351 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 8: That's a good question. It's really it's hard to even 352 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 8: pin that down. But yesterday when we were at the bate, 353 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 8: like inside the encampment, the faculty faculty came out and 354 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 8: were linked arms, preventing the administrator school administrators from coming 355 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 8: in the encampment and kind of meeting out these you know, 356 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 8: disciplinary actions. 357 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: Wait wait second, no, no, no, no, I hadn't heard this. 358 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: The faculty linked arms to keep out the administrators who 359 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: wanted to bring the suspensions to the students. 360 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 8: Yep, if you look at my Twitter page or my 361 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 8: ex page, Rich McHugh, I have a video that's now 362 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 8: kind of gun Bonker's viral showing the faculty and teachers. 363 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 8: These are like tenured professors linking arms, defending the students 364 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 8: in the encampment, not allowing people in. I was not 365 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 8: allowed in as a member of the media for their 366 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 8: for the protection of the students, was what I was told. 367 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: And so the administrators turned around and went home. 368 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 8: Well, today is basically a closed day on campus. They've 369 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 8: said every non essential you know, Colombia employees not to 370 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 8: go in. They've locked the campus. Uh, every every door 371 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 8: on campus is locked. There's only one gate in and 372 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 8: out now, and that's one hundred and sixteenth in Amsterdam, 373 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 8: where the student protesters are now giving like impromptu press 374 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 8: conferences through the walls, like through the steel walls. They've 375 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 8: also asked for donations of food too. 376 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: So wait, wait, the student are want donations and food 377 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: because they're locked inside. 378 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: And they're hungry. 379 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, you can't really make this up. 380 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: Are there any adults anywhere? 381 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 8: Well, that's the question. Columbia administrators from the university president 382 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 8: attack from all sides. Frankly, the protesters outside, protesters inside alumni. 383 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't see how they get this right 384 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 8: in the coming days. No, clearly head towards a some 385 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 8: sort of god what's the word cataclysmic end to this, 386 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 8: because I don't see that existing during graduation, which is 387 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 8: in two weeks. If they if they can have graduation. 388 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: No, it's it's too far gone. 389 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes you let an issue fester to the point where 390 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 2: the patient is going to die a scepsis the infection 391 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: spreads throughout the body and the patient dies, And that's 392 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: what they've got here. 393 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: They don't. 394 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: There's not one single person willing willing to take charge. 395 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 2: Are they getting any criticism from anybody in New York? 396 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: Politicians? Business leaders? 397 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 9: And yeah? 398 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, is is there any kind of response to 399 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: this is insanity? 400 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 9: No? 401 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 8: The response from politicians is is pretty large and vocal. 402 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 8: Response from alumni, uh is loud. 403 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: But it has no effect on the administrators. 404 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 8: I'm sorry I missed your question. 405 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: It has no effect on the administrators. 406 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 8: Apparently not. You know, I'm an alum and so I 407 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 8: was in there yesterday and there was several other alum 408 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 8: that I was talking to and I said, you know, 409 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 8: this is my personal view, but is this is embarrassing? 410 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 8: And they did not share my view, some of them, 411 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 8: some of them did protest. Is at the heart of Columbia. 412 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 8: It's been part of a lore of Columbia since they 413 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 8: took The protesters took over this same building in nineteen 414 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 8: sixty eight during the when they were protesting the Vietnam War. 415 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 8: So it's part of the fabric of the place. But 416 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 8: people's rights are being trampled over to other students, right, 417 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 8: rights are being trampled over, laws are being broken, and 418 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 8: that's when authorities need to be called in. 419 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what the issue is, not the 420 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 2: right to protest. It's the right of everyone else to 421 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: live their lives and go to class and take their exams, 422 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: and certainly for the Jewish kids not to be harassed 423 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: and threatened. And those those janitors, I mean, is that real. 424 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: The janitors were locked in there against their will for 425 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: a while. 426 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 8: Yeah. I saw a picture of one this morning who 427 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 8: was acting heroically, you know, he was fighting off one 428 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 8: of these protesters, almost defending the building. And uh, you know, 429 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 8: there's no public public safety. Is was pretty It's hard 430 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 8: to it's hard to see them, you know, in the 431 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 8: times that we've been allowed into campus, they're just not present. 432 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd know. 433 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: The answer to this, but I understand right now the 434 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: protocol is that if the since the university is privately owned, 435 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: it's private property, that the police aren't going to come 436 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: in unless asked. Is there some kind of yeah, okay, 437 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: but is there some situation where the police would be 438 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: compelled if someone's life is in danger, if somebody set 439 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: the building on fire, I. 440 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 8: Mean, in that case, good question. I spoke with one 441 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 8: student who was in this scrum last night and he 442 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 8: said his friends called the police and said you must 443 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 8: get in here now, and they did not come. So 444 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 8: it's a confusing situation. I've talked to many of the 445 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 8: police officers. I know that they're chomping at the bit 446 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 8: to get in and help. And so it's it's not 447 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 8: coming from. 448 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: The police, but it's somebody from sis. 449 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: What I understand if somebody called from inside my house 450 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 2: and said we've got we've got a gunman in here 451 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: and we're being threatened, the police would show up and 452 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: try to break into the house. 453 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 8: I think that's right. Yeah, Wow, it's excusing scenario. I 454 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 8: don't have an answer for you on this one. 455 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 456 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: All right, Rich mceue, excellent, thank you very much for 457 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: describing what's been going on. And he's with a NewsNation 458 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: you can see News Nation is a real good cable 459 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 2: news channel. He's a national correspondent. And then they're gonna 460 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: get what they deserve there. I mean the rest of 461 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: the students who are saying are not getting what they deserve. 462 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: But the faculty is in on it. The administrators won't 463 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: stop it though, if something really horrible happens. 464 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: They asked for it. 465 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: This is what it's set up for, because the terrorists 466 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: inside the administration building aren't going to give up. 467 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: And please send them food. They're hungry. You know, you've 468 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: burnt a lot of calories terrorizing. 469 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 470 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 7: six forty. 471 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: We're gonna have Royal Oaks coming up from ABC News 472 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: in just a few minutes. Would you believe that Donald 473 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: Trump was sanctioned by the judge in this ridiculous case. 474 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: He violated the judges gag order and now he's being 475 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: fined nine thousand dollars. Trump is going to be asking 476 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: to be fed, just like the Columbia protesters. Nine thousand dollars. Wow, 477 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: that is cruel and unusual punishment inhumanity of it all. Oh, 478 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: we got to play this now because this just came 479 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: across not too long ago. You heard us talking with 480 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: Dave McHugh. Wait did I get his name right? Uh? 481 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: What? 482 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: Rich mque excuse me? Rich mceue from News Nation. He's 483 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: their national correspondent at Columbia and he just went through 484 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: how the middle of the night, these terrorists busted into 485 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: the administrative building at Columbia, took janitor's hostage for a while, 486 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: and now they're still at the top floor and nobody 487 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: knows what to do. Well, no, everybody knows what to do. 488 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: They don't want to do it. Now they're asking for food. 489 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: They're hungry, and somebody was filling a milk crate if 490 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: we presume it's food, and they had a pulley system 491 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: and they were pulling the milk crate up to the 492 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: top floor there so the terrorists could eat. In this clip, 493 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: there's a reporter questioning and anti Israeli Columbia student and 494 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: the student is demanding that the university feed the protesters. 495 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 8: Listen to this, Why should the university be obligated to 496 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 8: provide food to people who've taken over a building. 497 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 9: Well, first of all, we're saying that they're obligated to 498 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 9: provide food to students who pay for a meal plan here. 499 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: But you mentioned that there was a question that food 500 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 6: and water to be brought. 501 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 9: In unless they listen to allow it to be brought in. 502 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 9: I mean, well, I guess it's ultimately a question of 503 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 9: what kind of community and obligation Columbia feels it has 504 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 9: to its students. Do you want students to die of 505 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 9: dehydration and starvation or get severely ill even if they 506 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 9: disagree with you. If the answer is no, then you 507 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 9: should allow basic I mean it's crazy to say because 508 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 9: we're on an Ivy League campus, but this is like 509 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 9: basic humanitarian aid we're asking for, Like could people please to. 510 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: Have a glass of water? But they stop? Stop stop 511 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: say or you could go home. 512 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: You could end your violent protest the felonies that you've 513 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: committed busting into the building, holding the janitor's hostage. You 514 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 2: could act like a sane person and go home and 515 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: see what's in your refrigerator. 516 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: That's option B continue with this. 517 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 7: But they they didn't put themselves in that very deliberately, 518 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 7: in that situation and in that position. So it seems 519 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 7: like you're sort of saying, we want to be revolutionary, 520 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 7: so we want to take up this building. 521 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 6: Now, would you please bring us some food and water? 522 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 9: Nobody's asking them to bring anything everything. We're we're asking 523 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 9: them to not violently stop us from bringing in basic 524 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 9: humanitarian aid. 525 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 6: There stopping a delivery of food. 526 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 9: We are looking for a commitment from them that they 527 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 9: will not stop it. 528 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: By having stopped it. 529 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 9: Well, I don't, I'm not. I don't know to what 530 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 9: extent it has been attempted, But we're looking. 531 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: For she's made up a charge, she's actually made something 532 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: up and then demanded that her made up charge be addressed. 533 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: I like how she said that she needed humanitarian aid, 534 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: Like she's some starving child and she's a student at 535 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: Columbia Columbia University. 536 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: She's starving ninety thousand dollars a year, which includes food. Well, 537 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: I go, they shut down the campus. I guess they 538 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: shut down the They shut down the cafeteria's there, they 539 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: shut down the vending machines. 540 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 1: Oh my god. They're truly insane, completely delusional. 541 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: You know what it's it's kind of sad listening to 542 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: these reporters or whoever they are trying to talk to 543 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: these people. 544 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: You can't you can't talk. 545 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 2: Go go to an insane asylum. Go to like calling 546 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: a statemental hospital. Go try to talk to the people 547 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: who are behind those big, heavy green doors in padded 548 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: rooms who are screaming all night. Talk calmly to them, 549 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: try to be rational. Or go talk to some of 550 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: the animals in the zoo and tell them to stop 551 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: screaming and thrashing about at night. 552 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 553 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, we're gonna talk to 554 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: Royal Oaks. Another circus. Everything's a circus. So Donald Trump's 555 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: going through this trial about writing a check to cover 556 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: up his affair with the porn star, and the judge 557 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: ruled that Trump will not shut up. He keeps violating 558 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: the gag order, and now he's going to be fined 559 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: nine thousand dollars. 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