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Speaker 3: Young is out there. You know, it's been a lot
Speaker 3: of positive feedback soor and since you've been on the
Speaker 3: show with us, you know, doing your thing. But it's
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Speaker 3: And I said, Man, he's just one of the greatest
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on? But that's what it is though, swering.
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Speaker 3: that Lessons Part two and we would get started with
Speaker 3: the show. So to start things off, man, you know,
Speaker 3: I had to I gotta mention this man special ed.
Speaker 3: You know, my man went on Drink Champs and said
Speaker 3: that n w A pretty much started the gay of society.
Speaker 3: They're responsible for the breakdown of society. And you know
Speaker 3: what's funny, about him saying that, man is that.
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta get it right, man, because you know
Speaker 1: he gonna cut back and say I didn't say the.
Speaker 2: Breakdown of society much.
Speaker 1: He said, what do he say? The appetite? They brought
Speaker 1: the appetite of destruction for our youth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they brought destruction to our youth. And I didn't
Speaker 3: have a problem with him choosing Wu Tang. I love
Speaker 3: Wu tang Klan too. I'm a Wu Tang Klan fan,
Speaker 3: but don't get a twisted Wu Tang Klan was spitting
Speaker 3: gangster ship. But from East Coast perspective, Ray Kwan the
Speaker 3: chef is talking about selling dope. While you think they
Speaker 3: call him the chef, he ain't talking about the chef.
Speaker 3: He ain't talking about He's chef because he's an excellent cook.
Speaker 3: He's Ray Kuan the chef because he know how to
Speaker 3: whip that work and that pir Rex Bull. He's the chef.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know people understand the the demographics of what
Speaker 1: hip hop was before or we jumped off the porch
Speaker 1: with our contribution to hip hop. If you go back
Speaker 1: as far as I go with hip hop, hip hop
Speaker 1: was it was. It was fresh, it was new, it
Speaker 1: was fun, you know, it was it was rock the
Speaker 1: house type.
Speaker 2: You know, let's you know, braggadocious.
Speaker 1: You know they can hear me still, they got they
Speaker 1: got hating engineered this ship. I'll be having your voice ups.
Speaker 1: Want to put the show out. The motherfucking steal man,
Speaker 1: this technical input ass steal But you know, motherfuckers didn't really.
Speaker 3: It wasn't really too.
Speaker 1: Much, I guess you want to say hardcore aspect, even
Speaker 1: though you know we had records like you know, grand
Speaker 1: Master Flash with the message who you know, spoke about
Speaker 1: the oppression at that time, you know, drug pushers and
Speaker 1: and you know, not being able to get a break
Speaker 1: and you know all that type of stuff. If you
Speaker 1: knew what was going on with black people in the
Speaker 1: seventies and whatever, you saw movies like you know what
Speaker 1: I did. You know, I saw movies like Warriors and
Speaker 1: shit like that, you know, the Sonny Carson movie. I
Speaker 1: saw movies like that growing up three the Hard Way
Speaker 1: and a lot of black flicks, you know, which gave
Speaker 1: the element of of of the underworld. You get me
Speaker 1: before I heard a fucking rap record, right, My participation
Speaker 1: in the gang banging came from growing up in poverty.
Speaker 1: You know, everything was bright. You know my parents, you know,
Speaker 1: father had a good job working at General Motors, and
Speaker 1: I grew up in South you know, we had a
Speaker 1: house and I want to say Lynnwood area. When I
Speaker 1: was a kid, maybe about four years old. You know,
Speaker 1: everything was great and you know, but once my parents
Speaker 1: got divorced and we moved to Compton and I was
Speaker 1: around six years old, shit changed drastically, you get me.
Speaker 1: And still I heard no. I heard no there was
Speaker 1: no fucking hip hop, you get me. I heard Teddy
Speaker 1: Pendergrass and my auntie played Millie Jackson and Bobby Blue
Speaker 1: Bland and shit like that. That's what I heard growing up.
Speaker 1: And hear no fucking you know niggas, you know, talking
Speaker 1: about the police and whatever. I saw that firsthand because
Speaker 1: I grew up in a place called Spooktown and I
Speaker 1: lived on Johnson Street where at one end of the
Speaker 1: street they had the they had to set called the
Speaker 1: CV seventies was a Mexican game, and then down the street,
Speaker 1: you know, they had to homies from Spooktown crip gang.
Speaker 1: That's why I saw my influences of street life as
Speaker 1: you want as you want to say. None of them
Speaker 1: niggas was down the street rapping about what was going on.
Speaker 1: It was just front center center. Niggas came down the
Speaker 1: block and did drybys. Ns was snatching us out to
Speaker 1: bed at two in the morning, pulling us on the floor.
Speaker 1: Because niggas coming down the block shooting. It had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with what a nigga spoke on records.
Speaker 5: It was pre existing.
Speaker 1: As I got older, I saw the niggas down the block.
Speaker 1: Now you coming from poverty, you know, black kid, You
Speaker 1: know a lot of people ain't educated. Your chances for
Speaker 1: successful life is real slim. It's what we thought. You
Speaker 1: get me. Did I envision myself? I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: as a child, you we all envisioned being You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a policeman, a fireman, a sports player.
Speaker 2: We all envision that the kids.
Speaker 1: But as I'm growing up in a single household and
Speaker 1: fucking spoop town with niggas is doing drive bys and
Speaker 1: selling SHRM, I'm seeing that is my influence. That nigga
Speaker 1: got a brand new car, He got motherfucking money up
Speaker 1: the ass. It's all the fancy, nice rods. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and them niggas is hard. That's my influence.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't because I heard a song and the
Speaker 1: nigga was saying, over here we hard, over here, we
Speaker 1: wear red and blue.
Speaker 2: Over here, we do drive bys.
Speaker 1: No, it was what I saw and what I thought
Speaker 1: was gonna make me successful as a nigga in the streets.
Speaker 3: You get me. So that was my choice.
Speaker 1: When no daddy in the crib and I'm seeing mom struggling,
Speaker 1: and then my sister is dating the hood niggas and
Speaker 1: they pulling up with bread and fan nigga, I'm being
Speaker 1: one of them niggas. You know, fuck ituck what comes
Speaker 1: with it? Yeah, I know, you know, fucking drive bys
Speaker 1: and you might go to jail for serving and the
Speaker 1: enemies and you know. But that was my influence. Now,
Speaker 1: I listened to records, raps started coming along. It was
Speaker 1: on East Coast, right, But I listened to motherfucking schooly D.
Speaker 2: Schoolly D was some good shit.
Speaker 3: But I was already banging.
Speaker 1: Did that influence my my wanting to bang? What more?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: No, it was it was like like my man prime say,
Speaker 1: right now, when to give my theme music.
Speaker 3: You feel me?
Speaker 1: That was to us, that was just theme music to
Speaker 1: go along with the daily life of what we was
Speaker 1: already fucking doing.
Speaker 2: Right, So.
Speaker 1: You had these rappers, you know, like special Ed, and
Speaker 1: I listened to special Ed.
Speaker 3: I think everybody did. That's the disappointed part about what
Speaker 3: he said. And I don't want.
Speaker 1: To put too much on my nigga's shoulders, but I
Speaker 1: listened to special Ed, you know, and how he had
Speaker 1: it made and you know, the magnificent and you know,
Speaker 1: we on the mission and you know all that. I
Speaker 1: thought it was. I thought it was nice. Rap records cool,
Speaker 1: But when I grabbed a microphone, I didn't see my
Speaker 1: life as a party. I've always I've always felt that
Speaker 1: when it came to writing records. I never saw my
Speaker 1: life as a party, as something that was fun, because again,
Speaker 1: I grew up in the hood, and even though it
Speaker 1: was fascinating to a nigga or you know, I'm all in,
Speaker 1: I still knew what that was that wasn't fun.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what it was, man. When Nwa came out,
Speaker 3: it was like a call to action against all the
Speaker 3: systemic racism that had been happening because police had been
Speaker 3: whooping black people's ass around the country for years and
Speaker 3: nobody ever spoke on it. It was just kind of one
Speaker 3: of those things. It was never on the news, It
Speaker 3: was never this and that, but they highlighted that. And
Speaker 3: it was in response to the poverty and the systemic
Speaker 3: racism that was going on around the country or in
Speaker 3: their particular neighborhoods. Now to say that that started to
Speaker 3: decay of what was it exactly? Did? He said? Be it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know, it was kind of like it caused destruction.
Speaker 3: And to me what he said, the way I took
Speaker 3: it was like almost I took offense to that because
Speaker 3: he said that almost like, well, NWA destroyed hip hop,
Speaker 3: And you got to look at it a certain way
Speaker 3: because at that time he was signed the Profile records.
Speaker 3: Who else was on Profile records at that time? DJ Quick,
Speaker 3: second to None and especially it kind of went into
Speaker 3: obscurity after that.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that came a little down the line
Speaker 1: a little bit a weak and second and None came along.
Speaker 1: But again, like I said, if you compare, you know,
Speaker 1: the the rap form of special and a lot of
Speaker 1: dudes were were I call it Braggadocia's rap a lot
Speaker 1: of dudes. You know, LLL did it a lot, but
Speaker 1: that's what I had. I'm this, I'm not, you know,
Speaker 1: and I get it. But then there were dudes like
Speaker 1: to me when they first came out bdp uh listen
Speaker 1: to Go Band, they were hood to me, schoolly D.
Speaker 1: I listened to schooly D. I listened to dudes like
Speaker 1: Steady B and Cool C. You know that reminded me
Speaker 1: of block hustling, you know, dudes.
Speaker 2: You know, it was all kind of stuff I listened to.
Speaker 4: And that, to me, is the biggest point of all
Speaker 4: of this, is that I thought the whole thing about
Speaker 4: all of art and rap and all these different things
Speaker 4: was to express your own opinion, your own perspective, your
Speaker 4: own experience, your own thing, whether that's like you're naming
Speaker 4: all these different artists. I thought that's what made to
Speaker 4: me as a fan, getting into it and then wanting
Speaker 4: to be part of the music industry and wanting to meet.
Speaker 5: People like y'all.
Speaker 4: Is like, it's because these were amazing stories, interesting stories.
Speaker 4: I learned a lot from listening to rap, and it
Speaker 4: was all these different perspectives that we didn't get from
Speaker 4: the movies, from the news, from whatever, our school books,
Speaker 4: whatever it was.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. Yes, you obviously being
Speaker 3: a white man when you grew when you were growing
Speaker 3: up back in Baltimore or Maryland.
Speaker 2: Didn't grow in Baltimore, Maryland.
Speaker 3: Oh, Maryland, I'm saying different from Baltimore.
Speaker 4: I grew up right in between Baltimore and d C,
Speaker 4: twenty miles from Baltimore, twenty miles from DC.
Speaker 3: Okay, got you my bed. But did you feel like
Speaker 3: those records kind of gave you a further insight into
Speaker 3: the black light what was going on in the African
Speaker 3: American communities.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the interesting thing. In my neighborhood, I had
Speaker 4: black neighbors, had a lot of We had a very
Speaker 4: very diverse school and diverse area. So DC Baltimore, for
Speaker 4: everybody knows, those are two chocolate cities for one. Then
Speaker 4: beyond that, because of the government, people from all over
Speaker 4: the world live in our areas. So we had Asian
Speaker 4: people living there, We had Hispanic people living there, we
Speaker 4: had people from Africa living there. We had people from
Speaker 4: everywhere going to my school. We had people when you
Speaker 4: would go to d C, you would see people you
Speaker 4: wouldn't recognize, like, oh, who is that. I don't recognize
Speaker 4: what that person it looks like. But beyond that, my
Speaker 4: parents didn't raise me that way to look at different things.
Speaker 4: But I had black friends. I had black neighbors, so
Speaker 4: I would.
Speaker 5: Go to stuff with them.
Speaker 4: They would come to our house. It wasn't unusual. And
Speaker 4: you black girlfriends, I did, so it was a funny story.
Speaker 4: I remember, as an elementary school kid going to my
Speaker 4: dad because my parents. I didn't understand what racism was
Speaker 4: because my parents weren't like that.
Speaker 5: I was blessed. A lot of people aren't like that.
Speaker 4: But I realized in fifth or sixth grade that I
Speaker 4: was attracted to black girls and the Asian girl that
Speaker 4: was in all these different girls that weren't white. But
Speaker 4: I was also attracted to the white girls. But I
Speaker 4: remember I said to my dad. I said, Dad, because
Speaker 4: I never heard anything bad. And I said, Dad, would
Speaker 4: you be mad if I married a black girl one day?
Speaker 4: And he said, as long as she's smart and she
Speaker 4: looks good, I don't care what she is. There as
Speaker 4: a little kid, my dad was already telling me, like, look,
Speaker 4: let her be smart, let her be somebody you like.
Speaker 4: It wasn't about her race or her religion or anything.
Speaker 4: But on top of that, remember when I was growing up,
Speaker 4: we had Marion Berry the mayor of DC in Baltimore.
Speaker 4: At the time, we had a black may also mayor
Speaker 4: of kirch Schmoke. A lot of my school teachers were
Speaker 4: black women, a lot of my school teachers were black men,
Speaker 4: a lot of my coaches were black men. So when
Speaker 4: I was growing up, I was looking up to black
Speaker 4: people not only from an entertainment perspective in music, but
Speaker 4: as teachers, as educators, as government people, as people doing
Speaker 4: all kinds of jobs. So it wasn't unusual for me
Speaker 4: to see black men in a position of power like
Speaker 4: Marion Barry or Kerch Smoke in Baltimore, and I'd be
Speaker 4: going to these cities all the time to play basketball,
Speaker 4: play soccer, do whatever I was doing, Go shopping for
Speaker 4: rect go to concerts, you know, whatever I was doing.
Speaker 4: So it was very different once I started traveling around
Speaker 4: the country going to college and then starting to do
Speaker 4: right journalistic stuff, that I realized where I grew up
Speaker 4: was very unusual. And that was something that I think
Speaker 4: is giving me a lot of perspective and has given
Speaker 4: me a lot of insight because when I started hearing
Speaker 4: the schooly D's and the Boogenel productions and the iced
Speaker 4: teas and the NWA's on the early side of things,
Speaker 4: those records and those songs were what I was reading
Speaker 4: about the newspaper, what I would see when I would
Speaker 4: going to DC or Baltimore, or what I would see
Speaker 4: on the news. So it was just from a different perspective.
Speaker 4: Schoolly D was the one. I never heard the dude
Speaker 4: with the gun in the newspaper talk. They never interviewed him.
Speaker 4: It was always this guilty dude. But schoolly D said,
Speaker 4: I have the gun.
Speaker 5: Karris won. My nine millimeter goes back. So now I'm.
Speaker 4: Hearing it from these dudes and hearing it from their
Speaker 4: perspective why they did, why they had a gun, Like
Speaker 4: I have said a couple episodes ago schooly D on
Speaker 4: Parkside five to two Parkside my place in hold the
Speaker 4: PSK gangsters like the room, TV and a hand thirty
Speaker 4: two ondred socks protecting on our turf.
Speaker 5: Like it was four knocks.
Speaker 4: He also says on a Saturday Night album on a
Speaker 4: corner selling weed as my friend Mike, I can't say
Speaker 4: that is wrong or that is right. I'm from Parkside
Speaker 4: five to two, so even there, it's like all the
Speaker 4: laws have changed with weed. But Schooley in eighty six
Speaker 4: was saying, I'm not saying he's selling drugs is wrong
Speaker 4: or right.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that's what he's doing.
Speaker 3: That that was some hitless stuff to talk about you
Speaker 3: selling weed in the record. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Still, you grew up in Cleveland. Hm, you grew up
Speaker 1: showing you grew up in Maryland. Yeah, I grew up
Speaker 1: in Compton. We all, y'all grow up? Is you know,
Speaker 1: young kids, you know what I'm saying, Saturday Morning cartoons
Speaker 1: and all of that, What would you say as you
Speaker 1: started growing up and witnessing and start to adapt in
Speaker 1: and seeing shit, you know, as I like to call
Speaker 1: the the underground scene. You know, because when you were
Speaker 1: when you were a kid, your parents, if you have
Speaker 1: those type of parents or whatever, good nature parents, whatever,
Speaker 1: they try to shield you from a lot of shit. Right,
Speaker 1: But let's just face it. We grow up and you know,
Speaker 1: we see our first pussy, or we hear our first
Speaker 1: cuss word, or you know, we see we see our
Speaker 1: first set of titties or some shit like that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we see these influences. We
Speaker 1: know what we know, Like motherfuckers pick up a gun.
Speaker 1: We've seen those scenarios. We've seen it throughout time. You
Speaker 1: shoot the motherfucker, you kill him, you go to prison, right,
Speaker 1: you go to court. Whatever, We've seen that as kids, whatever,
Speaker 1: we were influenced.
Speaker 3: By some shit.
Speaker 1: Right, I watched Superman, I watched Batman as a kid.
Speaker 1: Did I dress up in Halloween costumes? Superman or Batman?
Speaker 1: You get me? But I knew I couldn't jump off
Speaker 1: the roof and fucking fly right to jump off the building.
Speaker 1: And there might have been some kids who weren't raised
Speaker 1: properly who got up on the fucking roof and jumped off,
Speaker 1: and like nigga, I could fly right. But I considered
Speaker 1: myself to be a little edgy cadd with you know parents,
Speaker 1: And even though I grew up in the hood, wasn't
Speaker 1: no dummy. Right when I started selling dope, it wasn't
Speaker 1: because a nigga told me to sell dope. You because
Speaker 1: you did it because I thought I could make the
Speaker 1: motherfucking money and I could get myself out of fucking
Speaker 1: poverty type shit. Right when I started gang banging. It
Speaker 1: wasn't because a nigga made me gang bang. I saw
Speaker 1: that as unity for me for because as a as
Speaker 1: a kid who didn't have that older brother or had
Speaker 1: that older uncle or the uncles was what you know.
Speaker 1: Niggas I go to school with and I started hanging
Speaker 1: with as a kid, and I'm whatever. Whatever nigga entered
Speaker 1: used me to the neighborhood. This is like my family
Speaker 1: now you know, these is the homies i'mread. So that
Speaker 1: was my influence. Like I said, so when rap records
Speaker 1: came along, when I heard Ice t say six in
Speaker 1: the morning, or I heard easy go to boys in
Speaker 1: the hood was always hard.
Speaker 2: I'm already one of the boys in the hood. It
Speaker 2: feel me.
Speaker 3: Now. My nigga said that.
Speaker 1: You know how they do them with the questions n
Speaker 1: Wa or Wu Tang or jay z or Biggie or
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: So they asked my nigga, you know.
Speaker 1: N w A or Wu Tang and they say, he
Speaker 1: choose Wu Tang because Wu Tang for the kids. Wu
Speaker 1: Tang was was n w A in the New York
Speaker 1: for on before the time of you know, because now
Speaker 1: we got sets in in New York and We are
Speaker 1: represented with bloods and crips in New York now, but
Speaker 1: there was a time. You know, I've been going to
Speaker 1: New York since what fucking eighty eight. I knew cruise
Speaker 1: and clicks and niggas had they sections or whatever. I
Speaker 1: never witnessed bloods or crips. But that's another story, Wu Tang,
Speaker 1: you know, from from from a neighborhood Shylyn, Staten Island.
Speaker 1: Niggas get down over here. It's been murders, it's it's
Speaker 1: been drug deals. Wu Tang spoke this to you, they
Speaker 1: told and it's reflected in their music. You know, they
Speaker 1: clicked up. You know, we started off, you know, a
Speaker 1: K shylin and you know, pointed, pointed the desert ego
Speaker 1: that his mother's not and you know, so to say
Speaker 1: that that's for the kids and ship just kind of confusing.
Speaker 1: And then they say that n w A was for
Speaker 1: the appetite and destruction of our youth because.
Speaker 2: The music was what was was.
Speaker 1: Let's face it, the music took off when when when
Speaker 1: motherfuckers were able to hear a motherfucker go fuck and
Speaker 1: shit and and and bitch and hole and nigga, my
Speaker 1: my my strap and and fuck you and fuck the police.
Speaker 1: It brought another element of of to the art as of.
Speaker 5: Well, that's it's funny you say that eight.
Speaker 3: Niggas didn't go out and go n w a man.
Speaker 1: One of the niggas went out and get said, be
Speaker 1: like me, join the gang. And and and a lot
Speaker 1: of y'all don't even know this. We didn't even claim
Speaker 1: gangs back when we put our records. You didn't hear
Speaker 1: me go nigga, I'm from drag New and we wear Louis.
Speaker 3: It's a fairly new thing, to be honest with you, exactly.
Speaker 3: That's just probably happened over the past. I would say
Speaker 3: probably Quick was one of the early ones to start
Speaker 3: really kind of pronouncing where he was from.
Speaker 4: Well, if you go back and look at the uh
Speaker 4: Ryan Paige, Well, actually a we talked about this in
Speaker 4: my book The History Gangster Rap. The dudes specifically didn't
Speaker 4: want to advertise that exactly or not only safety reasons.
Speaker 5: But also popularity.
Speaker 4: So if you look all the early dudes that were
Speaker 4: from sets wore neutral colors on their album covers in
Speaker 4: the videos, or they wore black.
Speaker 3: So I mean it's like.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to alienate myself because first of all,
Speaker 1: I I considered myself reporting for all street niggas.
Speaker 3: I didn't give a fuck whether you.
Speaker 1: Was a cript blood, if you was from the enemy
Speaker 1: crip hood, or I didn't give it. That didn't I
Speaker 1: wanted all niggas who were in my walk of life
Speaker 1: to bang my music because I'm speaking on it don't
Speaker 1: matter because we wear blue or you wear red. I
Speaker 1: bet you this happened to one of y'all over there.
Speaker 1: I bet you it happened to the home mee. I
Speaker 1: bet bet so. It wasn't like I was trying to
Speaker 1: tell kids across America, Oh do what we doing. You
Speaker 1: get get in the six ' four and clean trag
Speaker 1: new and shoot at your enemies and do all that shit.
Speaker 1: Because if you listen to my records, I always told
Speaker 1: you the consequence of banging.
Speaker 5: And that, to me, is one of the keys to this.
Speaker 1: I never told you that your life was going to
Speaker 1: be lucrative and fun by being from the hood and
Speaker 1: gang banging. I never told you that on records. I
Speaker 1: told you what a life of niggas went through growing
Speaker 1: up in my walk of life.
Speaker 3: Because any further we're gonna take a quick break pay
Speaker 3: some bills here and we're gonna come right back. So basically,
Speaker 3: we never spoke on.
Speaker 2: The fucking.
Speaker 1: I guess you want to say the rewards of gang
Speaker 1: banging or being from the hood.
Speaker 3: It was always.
Speaker 5: Look at growing up in the hood.
Speaker 2: If you.
Speaker 1: Break it down, growing up in the hood, I talk
Speaker 1: about whatever minutes to society with straight up minutes. I
Speaker 1: talk about the flip side of of neighborhood whatever. I
Speaker 1: wrote songs like, I wrote songs like Nigga Struggling. I
Speaker 1: wrote songs like the hood took me under. I wrote
Speaker 1: songs that basically portrayed the gangster lifestyle, but it never
Speaker 1: ended up because I don't give fuck how rich or
Speaker 1: lucrative or you know, hood niggas is driving in Rose
Speaker 1: Royce is now and Lamborghini's and shit, But a true
Speaker 1: hood nigga, no, there's pitfalls behind. So it was never
Speaker 1: a portrayed or exploited to the youth that this is
Speaker 1: what you do, you get me.
Speaker 4: And I think that's the big part that's missing. Because
Speaker 4: schoolyde Iced t Nwa yourself quick, a lot of the
Speaker 4: early most popular artists always broke down the pitfalls. Project
Speaker 4: Pat came later he's another dude that was always talking
Speaker 4: about you're gonna get incarcerated, You're gonna get shot. This
Speaker 4: person look at colors iced Tea talking about, you know,
Speaker 4: sister got tracks on an arm? What is that from
Speaker 4: drug use? I mean, it's like everybody is breaking it
Speaker 4: down in different ways.
Speaker 5: You're getting gonna get jack.
Speaker 3: And then there's another there's another thing.
Speaker 1: I paid attention to when they asked him to question
Speaker 1: and he reverted to saying something like so for real,
Speaker 1: like this is what we're doing. Like when he when
Speaker 1: he spoke on the fact that NWA was getting popular
Speaker 1: and the music was you know, so he made a
Speaker 1: comment like, so for real, this is what we're doing,
Speaker 1: like to say, like, okay, we finna let hip hop
Speaker 1: let this in.
Speaker 3: This is what we're finna do.
Speaker 1: So we finna let niggas start talking about driving in
Speaker 1: old school cars and wearing khaki suits and saying bitching
Speaker 1: ho and and fuck the pope. So that's what we're
Speaker 1: finna do. Like, what do you mean that's my artistic expression?
Speaker 1: That that's that's that's what I that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play what he said right here, real quick,
Speaker 3: go ahead, I'm gonna play the comments see it. Especially
Speaker 3: he even got a Jerry Curl. So we can't talk
Speaker 3: about nobody Wu Tang who Tang is for the kids?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: You know what besides that, man Wu Tang was dropping
Speaker 1: knowledge and positivity.
Speaker 3: You know, n w A brought the age of destruction,
Speaker 3: Damn Jesus.
Speaker 1: N w A brought the age of destruction to our
Speaker 1: children and our culture.
Speaker 3: Period. Hey, I respect all.
Speaker 4: Of them as men, but as the art form, and
Speaker 4: you want me to speak on the art pharm, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna tell you what it is.
Speaker 3: That's where it started. That's where the agenda started.
Speaker 5: Well it didn't start there.
Speaker 3: That was the third of the demise of his career, but.
Speaker 4: It was in the But all those things were happening
Speaker 4: in society for decades before Nwa, before Ice Cube it
Speaker 4: wrote his first rap. He had nothing to do with
Speaker 4: the creation of any of that that had been happening
Speaker 4: in the United States of America for decades.
Speaker 1: But then after that part what we just played, he
Speaker 1: went on to say some shit like like for real,
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing, like speaking on the music
Speaker 1: that Nwa was that was getting popular, and just just.
Speaker 2: He said, woo tang was for the kids, and.
Speaker 1: Did he say like there was there was educational or
Speaker 1: positive and uplifting my nigga, my nigga. Ray Kwan said,
Speaker 1: he pointed a gun at his at a mother's knot.
Speaker 2: They they.
Speaker 3: It ain't no hate in the Wu Tang because we
Speaker 3: all no, it's.
Speaker 1: Not it's not even hating on Wu tang because they
Speaker 1: were expressing. They were expressing the same ship, were growing
Speaker 1: up in the projects, were living on Staten Island and
Speaker 1: Shallen that's that's our spot and that's how we get down.
Speaker 2: They words reflected where you know.
Speaker 3: All things. The rep was, I'm sorry to cut you up, but.
Speaker 1: You but you but but even not to cut you
Speaker 1: but you hear When he said that, the expressions from
Speaker 1: everyone in the room was like they sort of kind
Speaker 1: of laughed at one point, like nikko, you for real?
Speaker 3: Like whoa?
Speaker 2: Like they didn't he listen what he said?
Speaker 1: Like they destroyed the culture, the culture of what hip hop.
Speaker 3: That's what he pretty much said. And because tried to
Speaker 3: clean it up a little bit. He tried to clean
Speaker 3: it up and dress it up. So when I want
Speaker 3: to hear your takes you about to say something, I
Speaker 3: know you say some profound.
Speaker 4: My thing is this, when you listen to Cash rules
Speaker 4: everything around me? Can it all be so simple? These
Speaker 4: are not happy songs. They're very sad. It's gangster rap
Speaker 4: from the East Coast perspective, but it's also well I'd
Speaker 4: say it's more street reporting that type of stuff, because
Speaker 4: it's not gangbanging reality rap, schouty rapids street reporting. But
Speaker 4: my point is when they're when Ray Kwan and Inspector
Speaker 4: Deck and all the in particular, when they're doing their verses,
Speaker 4: they are not to Eight's point, they're not celebrating or
Speaker 4: in the hood. They're talking about the struggle, the problems
Speaker 4: today exactly the anger. And they're also doing it just
Speaker 4: as mc A did, just as Ice Cube did in
Speaker 4: their perspective, from the Staten Island perspective.
Speaker 3: To me, all reality rap was was a bunch of
Speaker 3: guys talking about their neighborhood from their now. I will admit,
Speaker 3: during about ninety five ninety six, once record companies discovered
Speaker 3: that gainst the rap was lucrative, you saw a bunch
Speaker 3: of crazy groups start popping up. There were ultra violent
Speaker 3: kind of like you know, but still entertainment.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I want to say my nigga
Speaker 1: was high or something. Now that's what I was just say.
Speaker 1: I would say it was high or something. What he thought.
Speaker 3: They didn't think it through.
Speaker 1: You did me because I just don't see how you
Speaker 1: can even fix your mouth to say.
Speaker 4: There's some shit. There's two things of this one. Rap
Speaker 4: has a Rap did not start political. Rap started party
Speaker 4: Braggadio Show, which is a big misconception. So people have
Speaker 4: that in their mind, but it's not true. It was
Speaker 4: the Routines and the Braggadio Show. It was Cold Crush,
Speaker 4: it was Grandmaster Flashing and Fears five. It wasn't until
Speaker 4: years later that the political commentary came into rap. So
Speaker 4: first of a, well, let's make sure we understand that.
Speaker 4: But then beyond that, when an eight and steel, you
Speaker 4: guys both notice when there were pop rappers, people thought
Speaker 4: they were whack no sound, It wasn't any good. They
Speaker 4: liked some pop rap. So what I'm saying is every form,
Speaker 4: every subgenre of rap, just like every other form of music,
Speaker 4: there's gonna be good illustrations of it, there's gonna be bad,
Speaker 4: whether that's critically or commercially. And sometimes those intersects, sometimes
Speaker 4: they don't and and the problem is is, to me,
Speaker 4: the several of the problems are Gangster rap was so
Speaker 4: different and so powerful, which is why it became so popular.
Speaker 4: Beyond that, just like with pop rap, with conscious rap,
Speaker 4: with whatever other type of rap, backpack rap, some of
Speaker 4: it got popular, some of it didn't. Some of the
Speaker 4: artists were better, some of them weren't. When you have
Speaker 4: a dude just saying in this be that I'm gonna
Speaker 4: shoot up three thousand people, none of us are gonna
Speaker 4: sit here and say that's as good as Ice Tea
Speaker 4: or ice Cube or NWA. But that's with every type
Speaker 4: of rap. That's what every type of music. And at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, so on, it's entertainment. I
Speaker 4: tell you this. I've never went to a movie and
Speaker 4: saw a bunch of gratuitous violence and went outside and
Speaker 4: just started shooting people in the parking lot.
Speaker 3: No, I just thought it was a cool movie, right.
Speaker 3: I've listened to albums that where they may have took.
Speaker 3: You know, Ghetto Boys one of my favorite group. You know,
Speaker 3: as soon as we if we ever get to this
Speaker 3: list tonight, you know, Ghetto Boys one of my favorite group.
Speaker 3: Shout out to my boy Willie d me and him
Speaker 3: was on the phone all day to day talking about
Speaker 3: some stuff we were about to start doing. But they had
Speaker 3: some songs like assassins and stuff like that. I didn't
Speaker 3: take that as thinking that Bushwick was running around Houston
Speaker 3: a mind of a lunatic. I didn't take that the
Speaker 3: scarface was really sitting in the room somewhere with candles
Speaker 3: all around them, thinking of the people he murdered. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean, he would be in prison. I
Speaker 3: knew that I had. It's common sense, right, But I
Speaker 3: think what gangster Rap did, and I keep saying this,
Speaker 3: by me being the Midwest, it opened it really because
Speaker 3: I knew stuff had been going on the hood. You remember,
Speaker 3: you know, growing up in Cleveland. Before I left, I
Speaker 3: saw cracks starting to come in, right, and I saw
Speaker 3: guys that were my peers, guys of you know, either
Speaker 3: class above me or couple classes above me. Next thing,
Speaker 3: they riding down street and ninety eight Olds mobiles and
Speaker 3: they can hardly be over the thing. And they got
Speaker 3: the sounds, and you know, it's like everybody out there like, ooh,
Speaker 3: you see Corey got a new you see, he got
Speaker 3: a ninety eight olds more Bill the next thing, you know,
Speaker 3: he ain't come to class no more, but he in
Speaker 3: the parking lot after school and he got a not
Speaker 3: full of money because he going to go buy everybody
Speaker 3: Hamburgers at the spot. Meet me over here, we want
Speaker 3: to go buy Hamburgers. So for a minute, that image,
Speaker 3: I would replay that image in my mind and think, man,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do this football shit. Man, maybe y'all
Speaker 3: need to stay here and get my hustle on. They
Speaker 3: getting rich, I'm gonna miss out on something. You know,
Speaker 3: I didn't know because when you're young, impressing it. But
Speaker 3: right what I didn't know is that a lot of
Speaker 3: those guys would wind up in prison, you know, eight
Speaker 3: nine years later in some cases earlier. Right, But gangster
Speaker 3: rap didn't make none of them dudes go out there
Speaker 3: and sell dope. That was there. I remember when I
Speaker 3: grew up, before we bought our house right on one hundred
Speaker 3: and third, we lived in a street called Chester. There
Speaker 3: was an apartment building in the back. You know how
Speaker 3: they was soaring back that way. You got those apartments
Speaker 3: and they got a thing under him. You would see
Speaker 3: needles all outside. Because I remember my mom beating my
Speaker 3: ass one day because I went outside with no shoes.
Speaker 5: On because she didn't want you to step on.
Speaker 3: She didn't want me to step on the needle. It
Speaker 3: was the needles everywhere and gangst the wrap. What in existence?
Speaker 3: We was listening to Bootsy callings and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: It wasn't so what would we go out and blamed
Speaker 3: Bootsy for the heroin epidemic that was going on in
Speaker 3: Cleveland at that time?
Speaker 5: Crack was predated gangster.
Speaker 3: Rap exactly, That's what I'm saying. So specially it sounded
Speaker 3: like he'd been sitting in the special leed class.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd been sitting in a special leg class.
Speaker 1: I don't want digg him out that hard, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just feel like in some positions,
Speaker 1: like I say, when he started rapping when he was seventeen,
Speaker 1: like I said, his his his youth or how he
Speaker 1: grew up was a reflection of what he wrote about.
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a i'm an MC.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna rap about you know, being double old
Speaker 1: fucking seven and shit like that and on missions and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I'm gonna make feel good records.
Speaker 3: You feel me.
Speaker 1: Let my nigga grew up in in fucking the projects
Speaker 1: in the Bronx and got his ass beat a couple
Speaker 1: of times, and Mama was on crack, and you know,
Speaker 1: Pops was in the pin for you know, hustling heroin
Speaker 1: and shit like that. I'm pretty sure his story would
Speaker 1: have been different. Uh, to be an artist, you know,
Speaker 1: this game is kind of petition. It's not designated for whoever.
Speaker 1: You know, you put our good music, motherfucker's gonna love it.
Speaker 1: I mean shit, he had a gold fucking album when
Speaker 1: he fucking dropped, you know, because that's what represented hip
Speaker 1: hop at the time.
Speaker 3: I still say HL kind of letting him off the hook.
Speaker 3: I still say a lot of his words were based
Speaker 3: on malice in his heart, whether it's and I say
Speaker 3: hold on whether subconscious or conscious. Because the way he
Speaker 3: said that, you could see he was just real deliberate, like, okay,
Speaker 3: y'all really doing this right now, I'm gonna go in.
Speaker 3: They ruined everything. He might as well came out and said, man,
Speaker 3: my record sales slowed up after that. People stopped fucking
Speaker 3: with me because they wanted to hear that shit over there.
Speaker 3: And I was done. I was out. Of here.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's true, but he's not gonna admit to that.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna turn around and admit to man, they
Speaker 1: kind of killed my career. Instead of saying they killed
Speaker 1: my career, I'm gonna say they destroyed the culture. You
Speaker 1: get me. I'm not gonna say they killed my career
Speaker 1: because shit, I'm nigga. I'm I'm special fucking head, specially so.
Speaker 1: But what I'm gonna say is because my direction wasn't
Speaker 1: that for the almighty pure hip hop? And again New
Speaker 1: York is the mecca and the birth of hip hop.
Speaker 1: So for him to be one of those four front niggas,
Speaker 1: you know, he was one of the four fathers of
Speaker 1: the beginning of hip hop. With as as the aspect
Speaker 1: of how I look at it, nigga, you can ask
Speaker 1: me about special Lad and I'd be like, Nigga, that
Speaker 1: motherfucker nigga that everybody banged that all the time. It
Speaker 1: was good music. I was a specially ad fan. I
Speaker 1: still am a special fan. But after after getting introduced
Speaker 1: to hip hop and me roam in the streets of
Speaker 1: Campton and seeing my influence, to you more, I don't
Speaker 1: bang no special d no more. I'm gonna go bang
Speaker 1: me some BDP. I'm gonna go bang me some just ice.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go bang me some PSK from school e D.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go bang me some niggas that I feel
Speaker 1: that is relevant soil my growing up in lifestyles. You
Speaker 1: get me, so no disrespect. I'm not gonna turn AVERD.
Speaker 1: Just like when hip hop started, I bang fucking tone Lok.
Speaker 3: I played a little Young y C is actually the
Speaker 3: first open crypt record.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 3: But but but his.
Speaker 1: Popularity came from Wow, dang young C. You wanted you
Speaker 1: I bang. It was exactly I banged that. But when
Speaker 1: I got introduced to niggas who was walking my walk,
Speaker 1: When I got introduced to a fucking nice tea or
Speaker 1: the fucking dub C or fucking whatever, that's my music.
Speaker 1: You get me not to say I didn't still bang
Speaker 1: some of that other shit. I still banged me some
Speaker 1: motherfucking Pete Rock and Coos Mooth or some tried call quest.
Speaker 1: But when it was time for me to write my lyrics,
Speaker 1: I'm finna tell you about nigga. Last night, Nigga, we
Speaker 1: was coming home and niggas dumped on us. The homie
Speaker 1: was at the burger stand getting him some food, and
Speaker 1: then niggas came through and jacked him.
Speaker 2: And laid him down.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you about the bitch over
Speaker 1: here who got three babies by three different niggas from
Speaker 1: three different enemy hoods, and a nigga went to go
Speaker 1: see his baby and he got smoked.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that because I'm a gang banging
Speaker 1: nigga representing the hood. When I try to change my
Speaker 1: motherfucking life and go get a job, ain't shit finna
Speaker 1: work for me because I got a fucking record, and shit,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm finna tell you about.
Speaker 3: You gotta talk about that because those can't you were
Speaker 3: a voice for the voiceless.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you about hey man, that's hey. Life
Speaker 1: is a party and today we popping bottles or and
Speaker 1: not even at that time like whatever, like niggas rapped
Speaker 1: about because there were records.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 1: Well, but nigga, I'm flenna tell you about what went
Speaker 1: on and tried New Park last night and what happened
Speaker 1: to niggas over here and who got killed and who
Speaker 1: this and who I need to inform niggas because I
Speaker 1: really just.
Speaker 2: What I'm going through every day, Well, you fuck the
Speaker 2: rap shit.
Speaker 3: Well, before we go any further on, we go into
Speaker 3: a break, but I was looking at the time we
Speaker 3: better go into come back with those top fifty gangster
Speaker 3: rap albums of all time, because I know you got to.
Speaker 3: You got your list of nights on yep, so we
Speaker 3: can continue on. We'll be right back. Okay, we're back
Speaker 3: with more gangst the Chronicles. You know, we've been talking
Speaker 3: about gangster rap for the pretty much the last forty
Speaker 3: five minutes, right, I think it's time we get into
Speaker 3: our list. So all right, you ready?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 4: So here's from what are we doing from twenty to
Speaker 4: ten or twenty to fifteen since we're.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just do twenty to fifteen.
Speaker 3: Just through twenty to fifteen a week, continue out and
Speaker 3: I think I kind of want to close it out
Speaker 3: next week or probably a week after.
Speaker 5: From fifteen to one.
Speaker 1: No, you go twenty to fifteen to night and then
Speaker 1: fifteen to ten and then then we'll do another one
Speaker 1: because I want to do something big for that top ten.
Speaker 4: So to me, here's and obviously we're all gonna be
Speaker 4: voting later and putting it in. But twenty I got
Speaker 4: fifty cent give Richard die Trying. Nineteen, I got Mob
Speaker 4: Deep Murder Music. Eighteen, I got Scarfaced The Diary. Seventeen,
Speaker 4: I got iced t OG six.
Speaker 3: Well, you got the Diary at number eighteen and get
Speaker 3: rich of Die Trent Man, that's the cold list, man,
Speaker 3: Just wait.
Speaker 5: Seventeen. I got ice TG sixteen, I got Coolie Wrapped,
Speaker 5: Polo Live and let Die fifteen. I got Uncle Sam's Curse.
Speaker 3: I like that at fifteen. I like Uncle Sam's Curse
Speaker 3: at number fifteen. This top teen is gonna be a
Speaker 3: motherfucker dog hop fifteen.
Speaker 5: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, you think about it, man, get Richard
Speaker 3: die Trying. When fifty came with that first album, he
Speaker 3: what did you think about it? I thought it was
Speaker 3: a breath of fresh air from all the singy SONGI
Speaker 3: shit that was going on. You know, we was in
Speaker 3: that era. You know, we was in the era of
Speaker 3: h baller terrific and flossiness and you know, G five
Speaker 3: planes and wagons and you know, and you was either
Speaker 3: you was either balling or you was you was in love.
Speaker 3: You get me on rap records, that's all rap records.
Speaker 3: Was back then between the that era. You know, my
Speaker 3: man jah Ruh.
Speaker 1: Had that had that run where everything was sing songy.
Speaker 3: And I was coming with his though dogs I had.
Speaker 1: Which was which was you know, no disrespect, but like
Speaker 1: I said, that's what it was. You know, everything was
Speaker 1: the party, you know, the party raps and you know
Speaker 1: the women and the bikinis and the pares and well.
Speaker 3: I would like to think in part what was going
Speaker 3: on in New York at that time. Puffy had a
Speaker 3: huge presence. Bad Boy Records had a huge presence, and
Speaker 3: that's what they did because you look at Big even
Speaker 3: though he was a reality rap rapper. To me, you know,
Speaker 3: Biggie talked that street shit like a motherfucker, right. But
Speaker 3: you know, with Puff, he was always gonna make the
Speaker 3: hooks real grandiose and there's gonna be a lot of singing.
Speaker 3: It was gonna be bridges in the songs and shit
Speaker 3: like that. It was gonna be a lot of dancing
Speaker 3: and siny suits. So it was a welcome departure from
Speaker 3: that because fifty brought some of the same elements, but
Speaker 3: he did it almost Nick g Way and when he
Speaker 3: got with those boys from the West Coast, you know
Speaker 3: when he got with Doctor Dre it was just on
Speaker 3: another level because it was a lot of excitement generated
Speaker 3: around that album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's like I said at the time, it
Speaker 1: was the love making Champagne era.
Speaker 3: I know you probably hated that shit, didn't you.
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I did.
Speaker 3: Y'all gotta understand some people. Eight is the Stephen King,
Speaker 3: a fucking rep. He's everything dark and sinister. Not that
Speaker 3: it's dark and sinister, but.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm like my nigga Rokim Man. I ain't
Speaker 1: no joke. Man, you feel me. And it's a time
Speaker 1: and a place for all that. I mean, we have
Speaker 1: all kinds of artists. You know, everything is you know,
Speaker 1: lights and flash and you know, look at me, and
Speaker 1: you know, look how many girls I can fuck, and
Speaker 1: how much money I could spend, and how much champagne
Speaker 1: and bottle popping and you know that.
Speaker 3: She was popping doing that era. Man, did you ever
Speaker 3: get an exec come to you and say, hey, man,
Speaker 3: we want to get you some Timberland beats?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's from the.
Speaker 3: For rail in them, and have you start doing some
Speaker 3: other stuff. If I just saw you in the shiny
Speaker 3: suit dog.
Speaker 1: That I had to go through that era because like
Speaker 1: I said, at the time, all the labels were trying
Speaker 1: to back away from the reality situation sleep what was
Speaker 1: going down, because you know over there with the we
Speaker 1: used to fight. We used to and then we used
Speaker 1: to fight like a motherfucker man. We used to fight
Speaker 1: conventions and jack the rappers and all that. We used
Speaker 1: to fight niggas and do all that ship because you know,
Speaker 1: we was bringing our beefs and our element from back
Speaker 1: home and you know, into the rap world because niggas
Speaker 1: didn't understand that.
Speaker 5: It was real.
Speaker 1: I'm still from the streets music seminar.
Speaker 2: All that type of ship.
Speaker 1: So and then, like I said, when Iced Tea came
Speaker 1: a cop killer, and then we had all the bit ship,
Speaker 1: you know with with dog in them and the too
Speaker 1: Short then we had all the gangster ship with eight
Speaker 1: and the Quicks and all that ship.
Speaker 5: And even though it wasn't gangster two Life Crew.
Speaker 1: With what happened with with POC made labels start going,
Speaker 1: we don't want to touch that ship. And then you
Speaker 1: know sug was around here whooping niggas asses and all
Speaker 1: that shit. So it made motherfuckers get scared. That's came
Speaker 1: the era of security in the lobbies at record labels
Speaker 1: and shit like.
Speaker 3: Oh all that. It got shut down once death Ro
Speaker 3: came because you know, I got my job with the
Speaker 3: first publishing company. I was with minor music then, right,
Speaker 3: And I remember they had sent me to Warner Brothers
Speaker 3: to go we had some sync business, right, and I
Speaker 3: was used to just building the building and going to
Speaker 3: go see what I see. They said, no, we need
Speaker 3: your ID. You gotta wait right here, the dude gotta
Speaker 3: come you underside end. We need to see your driver's license.
Speaker 3: And I was like, damn, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 3: Priority in started a whole like like a bank vault. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like a bank vault security, Like you not getting up
Speaker 3: in this motherfucker without no appointment. So but yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was that different time of labels trying to change
Speaker 1: the format of hip hop, and you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: that's the era we got introduced to a lot of
Speaker 1: the flashy, puffy and you know, the jar rules and
Speaker 1: all that. So when fifty dropped, you know, get Rich
Speaker 1: of DoD Try and it was just refreshing, man, because
Speaker 1: it was on some neighbor it was on some to me.
Speaker 1: I considered it on some Street.
Speaker 3: Ship against against them.
Speaker 1: And to me, it kind of changed the format and
Speaker 1: and and and unlocked the door, you know, because they
Speaker 1: try to lock us out. But after that drop, it
Speaker 1: kind of made the the sustaining of reality rap or
Speaker 1: niggas basically who didn't want to party and dance. Favor
Speaker 1: gave us the chance to come back because you know,
Speaker 1: Snoop dropped and then you know, Dre and then came came,
Speaker 1: and then you know, then we had the T I
Speaker 1: S and then you know, all of it. So it
Speaker 1: kind of gave us a lane again to you know,
Speaker 1: get all get all our sustainability back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think during that time, Man and fifty
Speaker 3: don't get the credit that he deserve oftentimes for that
Speaker 3: album because it was a phenomenal album, and I think
Speaker 3: people wanted to see him. He was got so big
Speaker 3: where people actually wanted to see him lose after a while,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he had built himself up through the mixtapes
Speaker 4: in the Street album so hard that.
Speaker 3: He was under now boil. You couldn't stop him. It
Speaker 3: wasn't no black ball, and the black ball and didn't
Speaker 3: work on him because it was almost like him being
Speaker 3: shot Lin credence to his whole career. You feel what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It was almost like him getting shot and
Speaker 3: then him It was almost like the same shit with
Speaker 3: pop like you know, you know, And after a while
Speaker 3: it was like I used to hear motherfuckers talk like, man,
Speaker 3: you know what if a rapper gets shot, to blow
Speaker 3: up and I don't even think. Man, some of this show,
Speaker 3: you start seeing people orchestrating fake shootings and shit like that,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And that was part of
Speaker 3: the reason why I got Mike job at that time,
Speaker 3: because before I'd applied to a few labels and wouldn't
Speaker 3: nobody get me. But then once people started running up
Speaker 3: in the moment officers, I think they wanted brothers like
Speaker 3: me up in there to try to stop people. And
Speaker 3: I told them, I see, I'm not security. If y'all
Speaker 3: want to hire security, y'all get that. Hey, norms, I'll
Speaker 3: get those buzzes sometimes. Can you go see what these
Speaker 3: guys want? I'm like, man, that's not my fucking department.
Speaker 3: Y'all go see what he wants. He here for his
Speaker 3: fucking chick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my I'm gonna go. I ain't got no list,
Speaker 1: but I know my twenty to fifteen I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: King t Actor Food album incredible. I'm gonna go. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to the first East Siders album.
Speaker 3: Deuces and Trades, the first first ones called east Siders. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's hard.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 5: Beef is my favorite song.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go that. I'm gonna go to Jao What
Speaker 1: You're Gonna Do album?
Speaker 3: Man, I love that album.
Speaker 5: It's a great album.
Speaker 2: My favorite song on there is easy to Get in Jail.
Speaker 3: It was hard thangs.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna go Above the Law the Living like
Speaker 1: Hustler's album.
Speaker 5: Phenomenal.
Speaker 1: And then my fifteen I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Scarface The World is
Speaker 1: Yours man.
Speaker 3: Really I like that man, Yeah, that's good. You went
Speaker 3: back on Yeah. Yeah, people forget about that album.
Speaker 4: Got a lot of scarface on here, a lot of
Speaker 4: scarface coming up too.
Speaker 3: I actually had that higher The World Is Yours. I
Speaker 3: like that album. Yeah. He had that song on there
Speaker 3: you feel Me, the one where even having a hook
Speaker 3: on it a new day. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know, start off like that and all I gotta
Speaker 3: do is thank God for my mother. That was a
Speaker 3: hard song right there. That was dope right.
Speaker 5: There, Faces one of the ever.
Speaker 1: And I bangs that shit today and motherfucking I got it.
Speaker 1: The other one higher though. My favorite cut though, that
Speaker 1: Jesse James.
Speaker 3: Man, Oh, Jesse James, that bum bum bump bump bump
Speaker 3: bum bum bum bum. And that's when Mike Dean started
Speaker 3: coming out there, because you know, Luk Jay has sent
Speaker 3: Mike Dean out here to kind of.
Speaker 1: Sit up under Dragon around this motherfucker started to do.
Speaker 1: You Like Jesse James, that shit was cold. I mean
Speaker 1: that motherfucker record right there is killer.
Speaker 4: But that's the the beauty of Scarface is that, like
Speaker 4: you eight to survive in the different errors, different production styles,
Speaker 4: but be able to maintain who he was as an artist.
Speaker 4: And like we even had early on deeply rooted. I
Speaker 4: mean that's like a twenty fifteen album, yeah deep We
Speaker 4: got albums that are spending like twenty plus years. So
Speaker 4: it's a beautiful thing. It's Scarface. Those that know, I
Speaker 4: think give Faced a lot of credit, but I think
Speaker 4: he deserves more every time.
Speaker 3: So you got so you would consider King T is
Speaker 3: against the rapper. I always thought the LIX was like
Speaker 3: a hip hop collective, like, oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Lis is not. That's not King T.
Speaker 2: King T is, that's his crew.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but King T spoke of of hood themes
Speaker 1: and he spoke a neighborhood an the licks. The Licks
Speaker 1: was all about, like I say, uh, you have some
Speaker 1: artists who are outside of what we call reality rap
Speaker 1: niggas is just artists and they make songs in their
Speaker 1: art form, you know, and that's like the alcoholics. That's
Speaker 1: like fucking the souls of mischief to me. You know,
Speaker 1: that's exactly league. You know, people have their own lanes
Speaker 1: for their music.
Speaker 5: And remember the Nuns. I always loved the Nuns. The Nuns.
Speaker 3: I used to say that album got the rhymes and
Speaker 3: beats that it was harder.
Speaker 2: Remember the Militia Niga man that ship that all.
Speaker 1: That shout out told.
Speaker 5: There's a lot and that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: But like I said, that's the that's the other side
Speaker 1: of hip hop. You know, everybody is in you know, neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You know artists, you know we have we have artists
Speaker 1: that you know are different in.
Speaker 3: Form, special ed you feel me. Ship.
Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't. Everybody has not walked the life of underprivilege.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You wouldn't expect that from
Speaker 1: a motherfucker who grew up outside of you or or
Speaker 1: across the tracks over here. Man, it's dark over there.
Speaker 1: It's light, great schools, you know what I'm saying. Parents together,
Speaker 1: motherfucking you know, clean up your room and mold the
Speaker 1: front yard and walk the dog. It's motherfuckers who come
Speaker 1: from that lifestyle. But it's motherfuckers who still come from
Speaker 1: the projects and hard life and can't get a job
Speaker 1: and got a record and gotta sell dope and niggas
Speaker 1: talking about choices and shit, but you don't have them
Speaker 1: feel me. So the music reflects where you come from.
Speaker 6: This is what I say, absolutely absolutely all right, man,
Speaker 6: you're gonna get you hard tesk. Okay, here I go.
Speaker 6: You'll want to go from fifteen on up to ten. No,
Speaker 6: we're going from twenty to fifteen, from.
Speaker 3: Twenty to fifteen, Okay, jail feeling me? What you go do?
Speaker 3: My deep murder music dove Ce and djil lettin Low Profile,
Speaker 3: Low Profile, the Low Profile album mom Exist Weapons of
Speaker 3: Mass Destruction that was against the Wrap album to me,
Speaker 3: Notorious Big, Ready to Die fifty, get rich of that.
Speaker 2: Trying weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 3: That was a good man. That's the one that. Don't
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong with that. They had some
Speaker 3: bangs and I thought that was against the Wrap album.
Speaker 3: To me, I would have said this. I would have
Speaker 3: said the first record, the one would get your walk
Speaker 3: get your walk on.
Speaker 5: That's Restless.
Speaker 3: Yes, I say Restless.
Speaker 2: I like Restless.
Speaker 4: Restless is well, Restless is my That is an amazing album.
Speaker 2: Restless.
Speaker 3: What I'm changing my picking.
Speaker 1: I'm picking because yeah, get your walk on his wrestless, restless.
Speaker 3: Guy, some shit confused.
Speaker 2: Restless gotless and they got the motherfucking that.
Speaker 3: Was gainst the Wrap.
Speaker 4: To me, that ship was hard as he Get your
Speaker 4: walk on, that's a battle cat did that and that.
Speaker 1: To Nigga got the old no, let's get drunk and yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my ship. That ship was just right there
Speaker 1: with the with the rest.
Speaker 3: I changed that.
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers cracking.
Speaker 3: That was a gangster rap album because when I heard
Speaker 3: that album, I was going to Vegas with my wife.
Speaker 2: Got the song on there with Nate Dog too.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of and that was when we first
Speaker 5: You remember that.
Speaker 1: Was like the last phase of CDs, right, that was
Speaker 1: like the findest little phase of the CDs.
Speaker 3: Right, remember when CS is big. That was like in
Speaker 3: that final phase of people putting on physical units, right
Speaker 3: when people actually had to go out and sell records
Speaker 3: with all all this fake ship that's going on now, right.
Speaker 3: I remember I was going from here to Vegas and
Speaker 3: I banged that motherfucking Wrestless album the whole time, just
Speaker 3: kept bring it back because that beat was just so hard.
Speaker 3: And I had, like, I just got a competition sound
Speaker 3: system put in my truck. I had an expedition at
Speaker 3: that time, right, that's when the expeditions was. I had
Speaker 3: a navigator and I just got like a big sound
Speaker 3: system put in there. And when that I could drink
Speaker 3: a whole Hennessy fifth something. Call it the problem, but
Speaker 3: I'm call it a gift. Just the way that was
Speaker 3: hitting with the bump bump bump, I was like, dun
Speaker 3: you was just jamming all the way. The thing that
Speaker 3: shit was hard. Shout out to exhibit Exhibit is underrated
Speaker 3: as fuck, man. I think they exhibit and all them cats, man,
Speaker 3: we got a lot of underrated cats. Out of here. Man. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's no decided to go to get good music.
Speaker 1: Man, see a lot of good music that came from
Speaker 1: the element I guess of what we call reality rap
Speaker 1: because it's not all about gangster shit because everybody wasn't
Speaker 1: claiming the neighborhood. So I got a lot of dudes
Speaker 1: who's underrated as far as you know, as far as
Speaker 1: this this list goes, it's it's been a lot of
Speaker 1: classic music that people have probably forgotten about, uh, And
Speaker 1: I'm reminded every time, you know, we do this ship
Speaker 1: about uh, the greatness and where hip hop came from. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I said I was a nigga listening to fucking I
Speaker 1: was a nigga listening to fucking from cool g rap
Speaker 1: to motherfucking mixed Master Spade. Man, I've and it's just
Speaker 1: so much good music and take it all and it's.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and it's never ending. Like you know, we're
Speaker 3: doing this listen to top fifty things. Again. These are
Speaker 3: just our opinions, right, but we I say they're somewhat
Speaker 3: subjective opinions. We're not up here just trying to force nothing.
Speaker 3: We got a voted system and y'all let us know
Speaker 3: what y'all think man in the comments, Man, y'all might
Speaker 3: tell us all listens full of y'all might tell us
Speaker 3: me full of shit.
Speaker 2: I believe y'all were one more boss deeper.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I forgot about that was hard man killed
Speaker 1: her off the bag.
Speaker 2: That shit about ten times all the way up here.
Speaker 3: Bad.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get enough of it, and we saying I
Speaker 1: got the five scales of trying to get the watts,
Speaker 1: but I'm stuck in ballwin here. She used to flow
Speaker 1: like a mother and that sample was hard to the
Speaker 1: first that that was my sample. Yeah, they sped it up, dud.
Speaker 1: That's the hood took me up to remix, man, that
Speaker 1: was all that man. Boss was my peoples.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I was in.
Speaker 2: I'm in her video process of elimination.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They came to LA and shot the video and hit
Speaker 1: me up. Niggas was always hitting me up to come
Speaker 1: of getting a video.
Speaker 3: Where is Boss still alive?
Speaker 1: That's the time I heard Boss. She was in Detroit
Speaker 1: on the radio. That was the last time I heard of.
Speaker 5: Her, and I heard she was having some serious hot Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because somebody is Because I heard she had got real sick,
Speaker 3: so shot out the boss Man if anybody else did
Speaker 3: know Boss, tell her to get at us. I would
Speaker 3: love to have her on the show. Man on the show.
Speaker 3: I would love to have Boss on the show.
Speaker 5: And the crazy thing is.
Speaker 4: When I got the album Boring Gangsters, and then I
Speaker 4: was listening to it and reading the credits and like work.
Speaker 4: She did a lot of stuff with Def Jeff, who's
Speaker 4: also very underrated and underpre.
Speaker 3: Dope a producer to as well as.
Speaker 4: Incredible and Eric Sermons. She had a very very excellent
Speaker 4: album and very unexpected, I guess would be another I.
Speaker 3: Think what it was. I know some stuff that came
Speaker 3: out about her, like a lot of other people that
Speaker 3: oh she's not really against and no, I didn't give
Speaker 3: a fuck. She made dope ass music.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I moved. Her album is incredible.
Speaker 3: I don't think Stephen King really out there you know, shopping,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I don't think he really
Speaker 3: no serial killer, nothing like that. I think he just
Speaker 3: made really incredible horror movies.
Speaker 5: Right, he'd have more bodies than about anybody.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Man, Before we get out of here,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell y'all again, just one more update. Man.
Speaker 1: It said she had a major stroke and seizure in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Oh wow, And in twenty twenty one a
Speaker 1: gofund me was set up to raise fifteen grand So ain't.
Speaker 3: They just said how our hip hop artist man like
Speaker 3: our people that was in the cultry, just get left hand.
Speaker 3: But what i've what i've I think I'm a union.
Speaker 3: I think I said this a couple of shows back.
Speaker 3: It's crazy how you can go work for one of
Speaker 3: these big major corporations right now, you know, just a
Speaker 3: regular worker general motors or hospital or whatever. You get
Speaker 3: medical right. You would think that when an artist signs
Speaker 3: to a major label or whatever, that in their contract
Speaker 3: they would stipulate they give me some of that fucking
Speaker 3: Universal or Sony health insurance because they have self assurance
Speaker 3: for the rest of the employees. The right.
Speaker 1: You better you got them from the motherfucker mailing the
Speaker 1: papers to the nigga, pushing the janitor ship, cleaning up
Speaker 1: the offices.
Speaker 3: You're really the motherfuckers, you know, providing the capital for
Speaker 3: that business there. Why would why you know, one of
Speaker 3: the most important employees. They should won't have you nice
Speaker 3: and healthy? That's a good point, you should. We would,
Speaker 3: we would have thought about that though. You give me
Speaker 3: I heard products you had that written into his agreement
Speaker 3: though for mob Deep, you know, the rest of Peace Pride,
Speaker 3: because you know he had sick of Seale. He had
Speaker 3: that written to they contract man, that they get health insurance.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be hard for them to do, though, Bro,
Speaker 3: you got it for everybody.
Speaker 1: Else in that mean But I guess you know as
Speaker 1: a as a young motherfucker, and you know a lot
Speaker 1: of us young signed on contracts and whatever. The last
Speaker 1: thing you're thinking about is, yeah, man, throw in my contract. Nigga,
Speaker 1: I get five years free health insurance and dental. Nigga,
Speaker 1: you ain't thinking about that like your thing is, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I need two fifty three hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: I need a million right now? Do you pay for
Speaker 3: your insurance? Rell?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So you gotta pay, and I'm pretty sure that the
Speaker 3: premium is high as hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that would have been a hell of a
Speaker 1: You get me in your contract. H Okay, don't even trip.
Speaker 1: What y'all want to give me? Two fifty? Fuck that
Speaker 1: two fifty. Give me two twenty five and I want
Speaker 1: five year? How long is my contract? What y'all getting
Speaker 1: five albums? Okay, for the next five to seven years.
Speaker 1: I'm want free health.
Speaker 3: Insurance because you know what, it allows you to do
Speaker 3: what it allows you to actually get cobra an event
Speaker 3: like let's say your you know, career ends or whatever.
Speaker 3: You can take that insurance that give you now give
Speaker 3: it a discounted rate of pretty much what they're paying
Speaker 3: for it, and you can continue to pay that premium yourself,
Speaker 3: which is gonna be a lot cheaper than if you
Speaker 3: would have winn in and got that on your own.
Speaker 1: I mean, because what I just made you ten million
Speaker 1: fucking dollars, right, That's.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. They only gave you, yeah, yeah, percent
Speaker 3: of it anyway, throwing some health insurance for them.
Speaker 1: Like you said, y'all ain't finna give me when I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to get You know what I'm saying, giving me,
Speaker 1: y'all giving me it should.
Speaker 3: Be fucked five years lifetime because they've already made it.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna cost them nothing to do that.
Speaker 5: Wow, a year after the contract's over.
Speaker 2: Oh what dog?
Speaker 1: Keep my ship for as long as you want to
Speaker 1: keep making so you trying what you're finish, Hold my ship,
Speaker 1: my publishing and all that shit for the next thirty years.
Speaker 1: I can't own my ship for the next thirty years. Okay,
Speaker 1: so far as long as it suld be. Because you're
Speaker 1: technically you can argue that's a hell of a case.
Speaker 1: You could argue that you're one of the I mean
Speaker 1: of the business. Now you out there doing this and
Speaker 1: that if you was a sales rep for him. Let's
Speaker 1: say you were the highest earning sales rep for that company, right,
Speaker 1: you so more CDs than the company anybody else, to
Speaker 1: all the change stores and everybody, they gonna make sure
Speaker 1: that motherfucker don't false center. I wonder if the I
Speaker 1: wonder if the big time artists do that. I wonder
Speaker 1: if the Beyonce's and the Taylor Swifts in the money.
Speaker 3: They got so much motherfucker money, I'm pretty sure get it.
Speaker 1: But still wouldn't you want them to fuck that bill?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, this shit, because let's think about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm making a gang of money. But how much is
Speaker 1: you making?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: How much is you making?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think on my new contract negotiations, I want
Speaker 1: you to pay for the next five to ten years
Speaker 1: of my health insurance. Take it out of whatever the
Speaker 1: fuck you getting already.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah. And on another note, I got a couple
Speaker 3: of other thing things where we go, Let's keep the
Speaker 3: homie crazy bowing up in prayers right now. Everybody know,
Speaker 3: you know your part was a part of the Digital
Speaker 3: Soap Bikes family for a long time and still family.
Speaker 3: You know, that's hometown right there, Crazy, We're praying for you, man.
Speaker 3: And Exhibit went in on specially.
Speaker 5: M I didn't see what I saw.
Speaker 1: I saw one of his comments, and I actually replied
Speaker 1: to Exhibit on one of his comments, and I said
Speaker 1: that not to go back on this ship, but I
Speaker 1: said that this lifestyle wasn't for everyone.
Speaker 3: Get me.
Speaker 1: A lot of people can't understand, you know, because let's
Speaker 1: face a niggas start game bang and was dumb, you know,
Speaker 1: and some of them still do. And we got a
Speaker 1: lot of that from when I was coming up and
Speaker 1: when I first started coming in the Rap gang. Uh,
Speaker 1: when we would venture out to different places and whatever.
Speaker 1: People didn't understand the lifestyle of game banging.
Speaker 3: Well, it's what Exhibit said though. He said, Man, that's
Speaker 3: my family treat right there. I don't go out of
Speaker 3: my way to discourage people from expressing their opinions about
Speaker 3: hip hop, But fuck this shit special legs you out
Speaker 3: of pocket, don't make it hard for yourself. We're still active, bro.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the comment I replied to Like
Speaker 1: I said, this lifestyle wasn't for everyone. This walk of
Speaker 1: life isn't for everybody. It's hard for niggas to understand.
Speaker 1: And then when you got a motherfucker who's in uh again,
Speaker 1: it's competition, you get me, it's competition. And for a
Speaker 1: nigga who feels like he is in a position to
Speaker 1: where he should be recognized or respected or in a
Speaker 1: bigger place, and then you get some niggas to come
Speaker 1: along and slap you off your pedestal. And now we
Speaker 1: don't even want to hear what you gotta say. These
Speaker 1: niggas is kicking real shit that I want a mother,
Speaker 1: I want to hear. So last it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was one of them scenarios where I don't think
Speaker 1: a nigga thought before he spoke, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You get put in front of these cameras and you
Speaker 1: get asked questions. A lot of people aren't articulate, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't intelligent, you know, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people in interviews they say shit that I'm
Speaker 1: probably thinking they would go back and look upon and
Speaker 1: be like, why the fuck did I say that? Or
Speaker 1: put myself in that position on the last note of that.
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen corrupting them and dazzing them. They
Speaker 1: got on a little stream with Special LD, and you
Speaker 1: know a lot of people were making the comment that
Speaker 1: he was trying to backpedal because now.
Speaker 2: It was I think he said that correct.
Speaker 3: Was they were.
Speaker 1: They were they were brainwashed by the record labels too
Speaker 1: to portray this or to man that was easy and
Speaker 1: I'm just up there making music. It wasn't, you know,
Speaker 1: because I guess. I guess because he's been getting a
Speaker 1: lot of flak. Now we're gonna put it on the
Speaker 1: pressure of the record labels to push them to that narrative.
Speaker 3: Well, one thing I want to say is that this
Speaker 3: was America and that brother does have freedom of speak.
Speaker 2: Definitely.
Speaker 3: I don't think nobody mad at especially I'm not. I
Speaker 3: don't think nobody, and shit, nobody. If somebody out there
Speaker 3: thinking about putting their hands on that man and something,
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that he has the right to
Speaker 3: have his opinion. You know what, I mean, he has
Speaker 3: the right to have an opinion. We're supposed to and.
Speaker 1: Slap a nigga mode because of your opinions. It's just that, uh,
Speaker 1: we feel a little insulted by saying that our foundation
Speaker 1: of hip hop is the destruction of and for him
Speaker 1: to direct it at saying like your youth, your youth
Speaker 1: and the youth in the state of youth hip hop
Speaker 1: and what's happening today is because Nwa was allowed to
Speaker 1: say fuck the police, or Nwa was allowed to say
Speaker 1: I'm straight out of Compton. You know, that's just fucking
Speaker 1: ludicrous and it sounds dumb. And you know, some niggas
Speaker 1: need to educate themselves a little more on the differences
Speaker 1: of of hip hop, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Educate yourselves on the situations that a lot of us
Speaker 1: West Coast artists had to climb through to even get
Speaker 1: the respect that we get today as far as being
Speaker 1: hip hop artist period, because they.
Speaker 3: Didn't want to see in you give me.
Speaker 4: The first time I ever remember hearing this shout out
Speaker 4: to Willie D was on Do It Like a Geo,
Speaker 4: which was nineteen eighty nine, when he said the East
Speaker 4: coachs ain't playing my song.
Speaker 5: I want to know what the hell's going on?
Speaker 4: And it was bottom line is, in nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 4: it was already known that non New York rap was
Speaker 4: look down upon.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 1: We ain't get no respect period. I mean I used
Speaker 1: to hear you promo tours, and you know, Sony was
Speaker 1: in New York. So every time it was time to
Speaker 1: re up and do a new record, you had to
Speaker 1: go to New York. And I thought, you know, I
Speaker 1: thought it was really a waste of time going around
Speaker 1: doing in stores and all of that, because I'd be like,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna buy music to drive by record in New York.
Speaker 3: We're not New York artists. So line was around the
Speaker 3: corner when you went up there, I thought it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I sold records in New York, but it
Speaker 1: was totally different than when you went.
Speaker 3: To a Chicago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go to warehouse in Chicago, it's three hundred
Speaker 1: people out this music room. You go to the fucking
Speaker 1: San Francisco up to Tower Records, it's a line around
Speaker 1: the block in the corner.
Speaker 2: It's a thousand people in line.
Speaker 3: When we come strap dropped.
Speaker 1: You go to Cleveland, Detroit, fucking Arizona. Every time you
Speaker 1: get an inch store, it was a thousand people waiting.
Speaker 3: West was a big market for you. Dog, West's huge
Speaker 3: market because even to this day shot at the homely
Speaker 3: Big Court. But he was telling me that, you know,
Speaker 3: from the Holding Court podcast, right, he was telling me
Speaker 3: he was like, Man, I bought eight CD man when
Speaker 3: I was you know, a kid man, And I love
Speaker 3: it because you know, he was asking about eight coming
Speaker 3: on his show, right, and he was just telling me
Speaker 3: how hoighly the high esteem that he held him up
Speaker 3: there was, you know what I mean? And I try
Speaker 3: to tell eight all the time because he ate is, mister,
Speaker 3: I'm regular person, right, I'm like eight, You are never
Speaker 3: just going to be a regular person. Some of these people,
Speaker 3: these people grew up listening to you. Dog. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: hate that shit, but it is. It was dought. They
Speaker 3: love your ass.
Speaker 6: Dog.
Speaker 3: I hate that shit, but it is what it is. Man,
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