WEBVTT - MC Eiht Reveals Why Special Ed Hated on NWA 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.040 Yeah, what's cracking? Y'all know what to do? Another episode 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:04.760 gangst the Chronicles. 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:05.760 You bitch. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.320 With his boy big steal in the house. Well, let 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.440 you know what it do. Man, We back at y'all 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:13.880 one more time. What's cracking? 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.840 Man? Just killing Man? We got our special guest co 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.520 hosts in here banging out these top fifty gangster rap 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.120 albums of all time. My boy, hip hop journalist extraordinary 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.600 Soren Baker. Yes, yes, thanks to educate y'all a little bit. Y'all. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.120 Young is out there. You know, it's been a lot 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.080 of positive feedback soor and since you've been on the 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:34.839 show with us, you know, doing your thing. But it's 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:38.560 somebody that asks, who is the white guy on there? 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.240 And I said, Man, he's just one of the greatest 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.400 minds in hip hop. You know, it's been chronicling hip 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.200 hop for the last how many years on almost thirty 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.120 now thirty years. Man, before some of y'all was even born. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.239 He was putting it down. As an editor for The 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:57.600 Source magazine has written some of the most prolific articles 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.760 in hip hop. Man, not just the Source. Motherfucker's gonna 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.320 give a fuck about shit like that. They just like 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.280 who the fuck is the dude? Y'all got on there, man, 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.640 y'all flipp y'all got a hostole like motherfucking like you 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:11.640 put your. 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:13.880 Your coins in and click the dag and get this 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.160 prize in they like. So, you know, niggas don't be 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.240 giving the fuck, They just be curious at what to 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.360 be motherfucking commentators on what the hell? 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.920 Yeah, what's going on? But that's what it is though, swering. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.759 We actually glad to have you here, brother, Thank you, 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:32.399 congratulations man for those If you haven't got it chet, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.680 go out and get his new book with Juicy. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:38.399 Jy Yeah, man, Chronicles of the Juice Man anywhere you 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:39.480 buy books, yep. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.480 And he got a new album. This album, you know, 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.000 I don't know if it's really new now, but here 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.560 it's new his latest album. Make sure y'all will get 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.560 that Lessons Part two and we would get started with 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.720 the show. So to start things off, man, you know, 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:54.440 I had to I gotta mention this man special ed. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.240 You know, my man went on Drink Champs and said 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:04.560 that n w A pretty much started the gay of society. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.960 They're responsible for the breakdown of society. And you know 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.120 what's funny, about him saying that, man is that. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.880 I gotta gotta get it right, man, because you know 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.240 he gonna cut back and say I didn't say the. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.240 Breakdown of society much. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.520 He said, what do he say? The appetite? They brought 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.280 the appetite of destruction for our youth. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.280 Yeah, they brought destruction to our youth. And I didn't 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.120 have a problem with him choosing Wu Tang. I love 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.280 Wu tang Klan too. I'm a Wu Tang Klan fan, 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.480 but don't get a twisted Wu Tang Klan was spitting 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.560 gangster ship. But from East Coast perspective, Ray Kwan the 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.680 chef is talking about selling dope. While you think they 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.799 call him the chef, he ain't talking about the chef. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.680 He ain't talking about He's chef because he's an excellent cook. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.280 He's Ray Kuan the chef because he know how to 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.320 whip that work and that pir Rex Bull. He's the chef. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:51.040 You know what I'm saying. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:57.799 I don't know people understand the the demographics of what 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:03.720 hip hop was before or we jumped off the porch 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:12.280 with our contribution to hip hop. If you go back 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:17.640 as far as I go with hip hop, hip hop 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:22.760 was it was. It was fresh, it was new, it 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:28.280 was fun, you know, it was it was rock the 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:29.760 house type. 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.679 You know, let's you know, braggadocious. 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:38.640 You know they can hear me still, they got they 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.960 got hating engineered this ship. I'll be having your voice ups. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.000 Want to put the show out. The motherfucking steal man, 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:50.880 this technical input ass steal But you know, motherfuckers didn't really. 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.560 It wasn't really too. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:04:00.280 Much, I guess you want to say hardcore aspect, even 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.360 though you know we had records like you know, grand 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:09.400 Master Flash with the message who you know, spoke about 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:15.800 the oppression at that time, you know, drug pushers and 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.719 and you know, not being able to get a break 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.800 and you know all that type of stuff. If you 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.680 knew what was going on with black people in the 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:30.880 seventies and whatever, you saw movies like you know what 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:34.440 I did. You know, I saw movies like Warriors and 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:41.640 shit like that, you know, the Sonny Carson movie. I 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.240 saw movies like that growing up three the Hard Way 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:49.040 and a lot of black flicks, you know, which gave 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.919 the element of of of the underworld. You get me 0:04:54.480 --> 0:05:02.359 before I heard a fucking rap record, right, My participation 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:09.000 in the gang banging came from growing up in poverty. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:16.680 You know, everything was bright. You know my parents, you know, 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.560 father had a good job working at General Motors, and 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.760 I grew up in South you know, we had a 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:29.280 house and I want to say Lynnwood area. When I 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.599 was a kid, maybe about four years old. You know, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:36.680 everything was great and you know, but once my parents 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.440 got divorced and we moved to Compton and I was 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:47.200 around six years old, shit changed drastically, you get me. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:55.680 And still I heard no. I heard no there was 0:05:55.839 --> 0:06:00.800 no fucking hip hop, you get me. I heard Teddy 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:05.040 Pendergrass and my auntie played Millie Jackson and Bobby Blue 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.640 Bland and shit like that. That's what I heard growing up. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:13.800 And hear no fucking you know niggas, you know, talking 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:18.040 about the police and whatever. I saw that firsthand because 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.720 I grew up in a place called Spooktown and I 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.839 lived on Johnson Street where at one end of the 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.120 street they had the they had to set called the 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:32.200 CV seventies was a Mexican game, and then down the street, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.800 you know, they had to homies from Spooktown crip gang. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:44.840 That's why I saw my influences of street life as 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.320 you want as you want to say. None of them 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.960 niggas was down the street rapping about what was going on. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:56.479 It was just front center center. Niggas came down the 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.159 block and did drybys. Ns was snatching us out to 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.760 bed at two in the morning, pulling us on the floor. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:07.599 Because niggas coming down the block shooting. It had nothing 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.880 to do with what a nigga spoke on records. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:12.960 It was pre existing. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:18.040 As I got older, I saw the niggas down the block. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:25.240 Now you coming from poverty, you know, black kid, You 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:28.960 know a lot of people ain't educated. Your chances for 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:33.760 successful life is real slim. It's what we thought. You 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:39.160 get me. Did I envision myself? I mean, I guess 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.320 as a child, you we all envisioned being You know, 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:48.160 I'm gonna be a policeman, a fireman, a sports player. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.000 We all envision that the kids. 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.280 But as I'm growing up in a single household and 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.760 fucking spoop town with niggas is doing drive bys and 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:02.679 selling SHRM, I'm seeing that is my influence. That nigga 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.120 got a brand new car, He got motherfucking money up 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:10.240 the ass. It's all the fancy, nice rods. You know 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:15.800 what I'm saying, and them niggas is hard. That's my influence. 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:23.480 So it wasn't because I heard a song and the 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.560 nigga was saying, over here we hard, over here, we 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:28.880 wear red and blue. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.800 Over here, we do drive bys. 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.600 No, it was what I saw and what I thought 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:40.760 was gonna make me successful as a nigga in the streets. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.359 You get me. So that was my choice. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.800 When no daddy in the crib and I'm seeing mom struggling, 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.960 and then my sister is dating the hood niggas and 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:57.400 they pulling up with bread and fan nigga, I'm being 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.800 one of them niggas. You know, fuck ituck what comes 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.720 with it? Yeah, I know, you know, fucking drive bys 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:07.720 and you might go to jail for serving and the 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.800 enemies and you know. But that was my influence. Now, 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:18.360 I listened to records, raps started coming along. It was 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:22.920 on East Coast, right, But I listened to motherfucking schooly D. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.959 Schoolly D was some good shit. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:29.680 But I was already banging. 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:35.880 Did that influence my my wanting to bang? What more? 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:37.920 I mean, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:42.280 No, it was it was like like my man prime say, 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.720 right now, when to give my theme music. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:45.560 You feel me? 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.080 That was to us, that was just theme music to 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:51.680 go along with the daily life of what we was 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:53.280 already fucking doing. 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.160 Right, So. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.320 You had these rappers, you know, like special Ed, and 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:03.720 I listened to special Ed. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.040 I think everybody did. That's the disappointed part about what 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.760 he said. And I don't want. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.120 To put too much on my nigga's shoulders, but I 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.400 listened to special Ed, you know, and how he had 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.480 it made and you know, the magnificent and you know, 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.720 we on the mission and you know all that. I 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.560 thought it was. I thought it was nice. Rap records cool, 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:34.280 But when I grabbed a microphone, I didn't see my 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:40.079 life as a party. I've always I've always felt that 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:44.600 when it came to writing records. I never saw my 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:50.000 life as a party, as something that was fun, because again, 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:55.760 I grew up in the hood, and even though it 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.640 was fascinating to a nigga or you know, I'm all in, 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.679 I still knew what that was that wasn't fun. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.600 Well, you know what it was, man. When Nwa came out, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.120 it was like a call to action against all the 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:16.400 systemic racism that had been happening because police had been 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.360 whooping black people's ass around the country for years and 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.240 nobody ever spoke on it. It was just kind of one 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.120 of those things. It was never on the news, It 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.400 was never this and that, but they highlighted that. And 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.840 it was in response to the poverty and the systemic 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.520 racism that was going on around the country or in 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:36.120 their particular neighborhoods. Now to say that that started to 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:46.800 decay of what was it exactly? Did? He said? Be it? Yeah? 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.199 You know, it was kind of like it caused destruction. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.640 And to me what he said, the way I took 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.400 it was like almost I took offense to that because 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.600 he said that almost like, well, NWA destroyed hip hop, 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.079 And you got to look at it a certain way 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.880 because at that time he was signed the Profile records. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.120 Who else was on Profile records at that time? DJ Quick, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.280 second to None and especially it kind of went into 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:12.280 obscurity after that. 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.040 Well, I think that came a little down the line 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.800 a little bit a weak and second and None came along. 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:26.280 But again, like I said, if you compare, you know, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.120 the the rap form of special and a lot of 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:34.960 dudes were were I call it Braggadocia's rap a lot 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.920 of dudes. You know, LLL did it a lot, but 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.520 that's what I had. I'm this, I'm not, you know, 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.080 and I get it. But then there were dudes like 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.440 to me when they first came out bdp uh listen 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.679 to Go Band, they were hood to me, schoolly D. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.920 I listened to schooly D. I listened to dudes like 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.880 Steady B and Cool C. You know that reminded me 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:04.000 of block hustling, you know, dudes. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.120 You know, it was all kind of stuff I listened to. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.480 And that, to me, is the biggest point of all 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.160 of this, is that I thought the whole thing about 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.160 all of art and rap and all these different things 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:20.079 was to express your own opinion, your own perspective, your 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:24.600 own experience, your own thing, whether that's like you're naming 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.400 all these different artists. I thought that's what made to 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.600 me as a fan, getting into it and then wanting 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.360 to be part of the music industry and wanting to meet. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:33.040 People like y'all. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:37.400 Is like, it's because these were amazing stories, interesting stories. 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.160 I learned a lot from listening to rap, and it 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.680 was all these different perspectives that we didn't get from 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.800 the movies, from the news, from whatever, our school books, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.520 whatever it was. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.560 Let me ask you a question. Yes, you obviously being 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.600 a white man when you grew when you were growing 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.520 up back in Baltimore or Maryland. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:01.440 Didn't grow in Baltimore, Maryland. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.520 Oh, Maryland, I'm saying different from Baltimore. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.439 I grew up right in between Baltimore and d C, 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.320 twenty miles from Baltimore, twenty miles from DC. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.600 Okay, got you my bed. But did you feel like 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.839 those records kind of gave you a further insight into 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.079 the black light what was going on in the African 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:19.120 American communities. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:25.840 Well, here's the interesting thing. In my neighborhood, I had 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.680 black neighbors, had a lot of We had a very 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:34.400 very diverse school and diverse area. So DC Baltimore, for 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:38.040 everybody knows, those are two chocolate cities for one. Then 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:42.120 beyond that, because of the government, people from all over 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.960 the world live in our areas. So we had Asian 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.200 people living there, We had Hispanic people living there, we 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.560 had people from Africa living there. We had people from 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.520 everywhere going to my school. We had people when you 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.640 would go to d C, you would see people you 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.480 wouldn't recognize, like, oh, who is that. I don't recognize 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.840 what that person it looks like. But beyond that, my 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.680 parents didn't raise me that way to look at different things. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.800 But I had black friends. I had black neighbors, so 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:10.760 I would. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:11.680 Go to stuff with them. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.840 They would come to our house. It wasn't unusual. And 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.840 you black girlfriends, I did, so it was a funny story. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.240 I remember, as an elementary school kid going to my 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:27.720 dad because my parents. I didn't understand what racism was 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:29.440 because my parents weren't like that. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.640 I was blessed. A lot of people aren't like that. 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:37.160 But I realized in fifth or sixth grade that I 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.160 was attracted to black girls and the Asian girl that 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.440 was in all these different girls that weren't white. But 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.200 I was also attracted to the white girls. But I 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.760 remember I said to my dad. I said, Dad, because 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.480 I never heard anything bad. And I said, Dad, would 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.960 you be mad if I married a black girl one day? 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.440 And he said, as long as she's smart and she 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.560 looks good, I don't care what she is. There as 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.160 a little kid, my dad was already telling me, like, look, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.600 let her be smart, let her be somebody you like. 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:11.080 It wasn't about her race or her religion or anything. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.160 But on top of that, remember when I was growing up, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.160 we had Marion Berry the mayor of DC in Baltimore. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.200 At the time, we had a black may also mayor 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.320 of kirch Schmoke. A lot of my school teachers were 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.040 black women, a lot of my school teachers were black men, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.960 a lot of my coaches were black men. So when 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:34.240 I was growing up, I was looking up to black 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:38.560 people not only from an entertainment perspective in music, but 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:43.360 as teachers, as educators, as government people, as people doing 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.920 all kinds of jobs. So it wasn't unusual for me 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.520 to see black men in a position of power like 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.360 Marion Barry or Kerch Smoke in Baltimore, and I'd be 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.960 going to these cities all the time to play basketball, 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.720 play soccer, do whatever I was doing, Go shopping for 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.320 rect go to concerts, you know, whatever I was doing. 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:09.720 So it was very different once I started traveling around 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.880 the country going to college and then starting to do 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.320 right journalistic stuff, that I realized where I grew up 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.800 was very unusual. And that was something that I think 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.200 is giving me a lot of perspective and has given 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:27.240 me a lot of insight because when I started hearing 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.840 the schooly D's and the Boogenel productions and the iced 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.399 teas and the NWA's on the early side of things, 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.640 those records and those songs were what I was reading 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.920 about the newspaper, what I would see when I would 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.200 going to DC or Baltimore, or what I would see 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.760 on the news. So it was just from a different perspective. 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.680 Schoolly D was the one. I never heard the dude 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:54.240 with the gun in the newspaper talk. They never interviewed him. 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.160 It was always this guilty dude. But schoolly D said, 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:57.920 I have the gun. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.960 Karris won. My nine millimeter goes back. So now I'm. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.840 Hearing it from these dudes and hearing it from their 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.840 perspective why they did, why they had a gun, Like 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.679 I have said a couple episodes ago schooly D on 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.359 Parkside five to two Parkside my place in hold the 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.080 PSK gangsters like the room, TV and a hand thirty 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:16.760 two ondred socks protecting on our turf. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:17.560 Like it was four knocks. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.240 He also says on a Saturday Night album on a 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.560 corner selling weed as my friend Mike, I can't say 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.720 that is wrong or that is right. I'm from Parkside 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:31.320 five to two, so even there, it's like all the 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.360 laws have changed with weed. But Schooley in eighty six 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:37.640 was saying, I'm not saying he's selling drugs is wrong 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:37.960 or right. 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:39.160 I'm just saying that's what he's doing. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.639 That that was some hitless stuff to talk about you 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:47.639 selling weed in the record. Yeah. 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:53.119 Still, you grew up in Cleveland. Hm, you grew up 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.239 showing you grew up in Maryland. Yeah, I grew up 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:05.440 in Compton. We all, y'all grow up? Is you know, 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.760 young kids, you know what I'm saying, Saturday Morning cartoons 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:16.840 and all of that, What would you say as you 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:21.879 started growing up and witnessing and start to adapt in 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:26.120 and seeing shit, you know, as I like to call 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:31.200 the the underground scene. You know, because when you were 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.159 when you were a kid, your parents, if you have 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.480 those type of parents or whatever, good nature parents, whatever, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.840 they try to shield you from a lot of shit. Right, 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:44.879 But let's just face it. We grow up and you know, 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.159 we see our first pussy, or we hear our first 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:52.040 cuss word, or you know, we see we see our 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.879 first set of titties or some shit like that. You 0:19:54.920 --> 0:20:02.800 know what I'm saying. So we see these influences. We 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:08.560 know what we know, Like motherfuckers pick up a gun. 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:13.639 We've seen those scenarios. We've seen it throughout time. You 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:17.200 shoot the motherfucker, you kill him, you go to prison, right, 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.159 you go to court. Whatever, We've seen that as kids, whatever, 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:24.320 we were influenced. 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:24.760 By some shit. 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:32.680 Right, I watched Superman, I watched Batman as a kid. 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:37.960 Did I dress up in Halloween costumes? Superman or Batman? 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.000 You get me? But I knew I couldn't jump off 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:45.040 the roof and fucking fly right to jump off the building. 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.280 And there might have been some kids who weren't raised 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:54.080 properly who got up on the fucking roof and jumped off, 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:58.160 and like nigga, I could fly right. But I considered 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:02.200 myself to be a little edgy cadd with you know parents, 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:06.320 And even though I grew up in the hood, wasn't 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:15.160 no dummy. Right when I started selling dope, it wasn't 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.920 because a nigga told me to sell dope. You because 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:21.679 you did it because I thought I could make the 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:25.840 motherfucking money and I could get myself out of fucking 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:32.520 poverty type shit. Right when I started gang banging. It 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:37.000 wasn't because a nigga made me gang bang. I saw 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:42.440 that as unity for me for because as a as 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:49.440 a kid who didn't have that older brother or had 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:53.080 that older uncle or the uncles was what you know. 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.960 Niggas I go to school with and I started hanging 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.879 with as a kid, and I'm whatever. Whatever nigga entered 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.480 used me to the neighborhood. This is like my family 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.199 now you know, these is the homies i'mread. So that 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:10.440 was my influence. Like I said, so when rap records 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:15.800 came along, when I heard Ice t say six in 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:20.439 the morning, or I heard easy go to boys in 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.960 the hood was always hard. 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.480 I'm already one of the boys in the hood. It 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:27.320 feel me. 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.480 Now. My nigga said that. 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.119 You know how they do them with the questions n 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:42.680 Wa or Wu Tang or jay z or Biggie or 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:42.960 you know. 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:45.160 So they asked my nigga, you know. 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.280 N w A or Wu Tang and they say, he 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:56.640 choose Wu Tang because Wu Tang for the kids. Wu 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.840 Tang was was n w A in the New York 0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:05.520 for on before the time of you know, because now 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:09.000 we got sets in in New York and We are 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.679 represented with bloods and crips in New York now, but 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.240 there was a time. You know, I've been going to 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:20.320 New York since what fucking eighty eight. I knew cruise 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:23.159 and clicks and niggas had they sections or whatever. I 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:30.520 never witnessed bloods or crips. But that's another story, Wu Tang, 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:37.000 you know, from from from a neighborhood Shylyn, Staten Island. 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:41.320 Niggas get down over here. It's been murders, it's it's 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:45.600 been drug deals. Wu Tang spoke this to you, they 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.840 told and it's reflected in their music. You know, they 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.320 clicked up. You know, we started off, you know, a 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:57.040 K shylin and you know, pointed, pointed the desert ego 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.880 that his mother's not and you know, so to say 0:23:59.920 --> 0:24:02.959 that that's for the kids and ship just kind of confusing. 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.280 And then they say that n w A was for 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:09.040 the appetite and destruction of our youth because. 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.120 The music was what was was. 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:18.080 Let's face it, the music took off when when when 0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:22.120 motherfuckers were able to hear a motherfucker go fuck and 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:27.919 shit and and and bitch and hole and nigga, my 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:32.680 my my strap and and fuck you and fuck the police. 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:36.919 It brought another element of of to the art as of. 0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:39.800 Well, that's it's funny you say that eight. 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:42.480 Niggas didn't go out and go n w a man. 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:45.720 One of the niggas went out and get said, be 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:50.480 like me, join the gang. And and and a lot 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.399 of y'all don't even know this. We didn't even claim 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.720 gangs back when we put our records. You didn't hear 0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:00.399 me go nigga, I'm from drag New and we wear Louis. 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:03.440 It's a fairly new thing, to be honest with you, exactly. 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.840 That's just probably happened over the past. I would say 0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:07.960 probably Quick was one of the early ones to start 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.480 really kind of pronouncing where he was from. 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:15.040 Well, if you go back and look at the uh 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.679 Ryan Paige, Well, actually a we talked about this in 0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:22.360 my book The History Gangster Rap. The dudes specifically didn't 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:28.240 want to advertise that exactly or not only safety reasons. 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.040 But also popularity. 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.120 So if you look all the early dudes that were 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:36.480 from sets wore neutral colors on their album covers in 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.080 the videos, or they wore black. 0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:39.280 So I mean it's like. 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.240 I didn't want to alienate myself because first of all, 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:52.480 I I considered myself reporting for all street niggas. 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.280 I didn't give a fuck whether you. 0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:57.879 Was a cript blood, if you was from the enemy 0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.719 crip hood, or I didn't give it. That didn't I 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:06.639 wanted all niggas who were in my walk of life 0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:11.760 to bang my music because I'm speaking on it don't 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.480 matter because we wear blue or you wear red. I 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.600 bet you this happened to one of y'all over there. 0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:19.919 I bet you it happened to the home mee. I 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:23.760 bet bet so. It wasn't like I was trying to 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:29.879 tell kids across America, Oh do what we doing. You 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:34.320 get get in the six ' four and clean trag 0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:39.120 new and shoot at your enemies and do all that shit. 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.560 Because if you listen to my records, I always told 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.720 you the consequence of banging. 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.919 And that, to me, is one of the keys to this. 0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:51.600 I never told you that your life was going to 0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:54.960 be lucrative and fun by being from the hood and 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.359 gang banging. I never told you that on records. I 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.160 told you what a life of niggas went through growing 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:04.600 up in my walk of life. 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.440 Because any further we're gonna take a quick break pay 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:16.119 some bills here and we're gonna come right back. So basically, 0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:23.600 we never spoke on. 0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:26.440 The fucking. 0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:30.359 I guess you want to say the rewards of gang 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.119 banging or being from the hood. 0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:33.720 It was always. 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.639 Look at growing up in the hood. 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:35.320 If you. 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:40.160 Break it down, growing up in the hood, I talk 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:44.720 about whatever minutes to society with straight up minutes. I 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:51.520 talk about the flip side of of neighborhood whatever. I 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:59.280 wrote songs like, I wrote songs like Nigga Struggling. I 0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:04.520 wrote songs like the hood took me under. I wrote 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:11.560 songs that basically portrayed the gangster lifestyle, but it never 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:16.040 ended up because I don't give fuck how rich or 0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:20.000 lucrative or you know, hood niggas is driving in Rose 0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:24.160 Royce is now and Lamborghini's and shit, But a true 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:28.760 hood nigga, no, there's pitfalls behind. So it was never 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:34.800 a portrayed or exploited to the youth that this is 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:36.560 what you do, you get me. 0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.200 And I think that's the big part that's missing. Because 0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:47.920 schoolyde Iced t Nwa yourself quick, a lot of the 0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:53.560 early most popular artists always broke down the pitfalls. Project 0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:56.960 Pat came later he's another dude that was always talking 0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:00.800 about you're gonna get incarcerated, You're gonna get shot. This 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:04.640 person look at colors iced Tea talking about, you know, 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.760 sister got tracks on an arm? What is that from 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:11.320 drug use? I mean, it's like everybody is breaking it 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:12.720 down in different ways. 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:14.880 You're getting gonna get jack. 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:18.120 And then there's another there's another thing. 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:22.040 I paid attention to when they asked him to question 0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:28.360 and he reverted to saying something like so for real, 0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.600 like this is what we're doing. Like when he when 0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:36.520 he spoke on the fact that NWA was getting popular 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.440 and the music was you know, so he made a 0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.400 comment like, so for real, this is what we're doing, 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:48.160 like to say, like, okay, we finna let hip hop 0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:49.080 let this in. 0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:50.640 This is what we're finna do. 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:55.320 So we finna let niggas start talking about driving in 0:29:55.800 --> 0:30:00.920 old school cars and wearing khaki suits and saying bitching 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.080 ho and and fuck the pope. So that's what we're 0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:08.520 finna do. Like, what do you mean that's my artistic expression? 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:12.080 That that's that's that's what I that's what I'm doing. 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.240 I'm gonna play what he said right here, real quick, 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.440 go ahead, I'm gonna play the comments see it. Especially 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.200 he even got a Jerry Curl. So we can't talk 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:24.560 about nobody Wu Tang who Tang is for the kids? 0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:25.360 Now? 0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.160 You know what besides that, man Wu Tang was dropping 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:29.640 knowledge and positivity. 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:34.040 You know, n w A brought the age of destruction, 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:36.520 Damn Jesus. 0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:39.840 N w A brought the age of destruction to our 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.520 children and our culture. 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.640 Period. Hey, I respect all. 0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:49.160 Of them as men, but as the art form, and 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:50.880 you want me to speak on the art pharm, I'm 0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:51.840 gonna tell you what it is. 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:56.000 That's where it started. That's where the agenda started. 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.800 Well it didn't start there. 0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.720 That was the third of the demise of his career, but. 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.600 It was in the But all those things were happening 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:10.600 in society for decades before Nwa, before Ice Cube it 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.680 wrote his first rap. He had nothing to do with 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.520 the creation of any of that that had been happening 0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:20.320 in the United States of America for decades. 0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:24.760 But then after that part what we just played, he 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:29.160 went on to say some shit like like for real, 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.040 this is what we're doing, like speaking on the music 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:38.080 that Nwa was that was getting popular, and just just. 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:45.920 He said, woo tang was for the kids, and. 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:49.080 Did he say like there was there was educational or 0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:54.480 positive and uplifting my nigga, my nigga. Ray Kwan said, 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.280 he pointed a gun at his at a mother's knot. 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.239 They they. 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.080 It ain't no hate in the Wu Tang because we 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:05.880 all no, it's. 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.920 Not it's not even hating on Wu tang because they 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:14.160 were expressing. They were expressing the same ship, were growing 0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:17.600 up in the projects, were living on Staten Island and 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:22.120 Shallen that's that's our spot and that's how we get down. 0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.600 They words reflected where you know. 0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.360 All things. The rep was, I'm sorry to cut you up, but. 0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:33.280 You but you but but even not to cut you 0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:37.480 but you hear When he said that, the expressions from 0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:41.280 everyone in the room was like they sort of kind 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.440 of laughed at one point, like nikko, you for real? 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:46.080 Like whoa? 0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:50.000 Like they didn't he listen what he said? 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.680 Like they destroyed the culture, the culture of what hip hop. 0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.960 That's what he pretty much said. And because tried to 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:57.480 clean it up a little bit. He tried to clean 0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.240 it up and dress it up. So when I want 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:00.960 to hear your takes you about to say something, I 0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:02.280 know you say some profound. 0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.840 My thing is this, when you listen to Cash rules 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.640 everything around me? Can it all be so simple? These 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:15.840 are not happy songs. They're very sad. It's gangster rap 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:19.400 from the East Coast perspective, but it's also well I'd 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.640 say it's more street reporting that type of stuff, because 0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:27.480 it's not gangbanging reality rap, schouty rapids street reporting. But 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.960 my point is when they're when Ray Kwan and Inspector 0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:35.480 Deck and all the in particular, when they're doing their verses, 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:40.080 they are not to Eight's point, they're not celebrating or 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.760 in the hood. They're talking about the struggle, the problems 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:48.040 today exactly the anger. And they're also doing it just 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.080 as mc A did, just as Ice Cube did in 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.680 their perspective, from the Staten Island perspective. 0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.480 To me, all reality rap was was a bunch of 0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:01.840 guys talking about their neighborhood from their now. I will admit, 0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.680 during about ninety five ninety six, once record companies discovered 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.680 that gainst the rap was lucrative, you saw a bunch 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.480 of crazy groups start popping up. There were ultra violent 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.440 kind of like you know, but still entertainment. 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.600 But the thing is, I want to say my nigga 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.439 was high or something. Now that's what I was just say. 0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.160 I would say it was high or something. What he thought. 0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:23.719 They didn't think it through. 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:27.000 You did me because I just don't see how you 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.320 can even fix your mouth to say. 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:34.800 There's some shit. There's two things of this one. Rap 0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:39.120 has a Rap did not start political. Rap started party 0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:43.680 Braggadio Show, which is a big misconception. So people have 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.839 that in their mind, but it's not true. It was 0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.560 the Routines and the Braggadio Show. It was Cold Crush, 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.640 it was Grandmaster Flashing and Fears five. It wasn't until 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:59.480 years later that the political commentary came into rap. So 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.920 first of a, well, let's make sure we understand that. 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:06.360 But then beyond that, when an eight and steel, you 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:10.399 guys both notice when there were pop rappers, people thought 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:14.640 they were whack no sound, It wasn't any good. They 0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.280 liked some pop rap. So what I'm saying is every form, 0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.640 every subgenre of rap, just like every other form of music, 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.840 there's gonna be good illustrations of it, there's gonna be bad, 0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:29.600 whether that's critically or commercially. And sometimes those intersects, sometimes 0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:34.960 they don't and and the problem is is, to me, 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:40.399 the several of the problems are Gangster rap was so 0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:44.040 different and so powerful, which is why it became so popular. 0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:49.680 Beyond that, just like with pop rap, with conscious rap, 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:54.560 with whatever other type of rap, backpack rap, some of 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:56.440 it got popular, some of it didn't. Some of the 0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.719 artists were better, some of them weren't. When you have 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.759 a dude just saying in this be that I'm gonna 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.919 shoot up three thousand people, none of us are gonna 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.719 sit here and say that's as good as Ice Tea 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.640 or ice Cube or NWA. But that's with every type 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.480 of rap. That's what every type of music. And at 0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:15.920 the end of the day, so on, it's entertainment. I 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:19.840 tell you this. I've never went to a movie and 0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.239 saw a bunch of gratuitous violence and went outside and 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:23.759 just started shooting people in the parking lot. 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.040 No, I just thought it was a cool movie, right. 0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.279 I've listened to albums that where they may have took. 0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.880 You know, Ghetto Boys one of my favorite group. You know, 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.279 as soon as we if we ever get to this 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.399 list tonight, you know, Ghetto Boys one of my favorite group. 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.120 Shout out to my boy Willie d me and him 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:39.680 was on the phone all day to day talking about 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:43.000 some stuff we were about to start doing. But they had 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.720 some songs like assassins and stuff like that. I didn't 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.440 take that as thinking that Bushwick was running around Houston 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.200 a mind of a lunatic. I didn't take that the 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.720 scarface was really sitting in the room somewhere with candles 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:58.040 all around them, thinking of the people he murdered. You 0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:59.800 know what I mean, he would be in prison. I 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.200 knew that I had. It's common sense, right, But I 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.560 think what gangster Rap did, and I keep saying this, 0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.839 by me being the Midwest, it opened it really because 0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.040 I knew stuff had been going on the hood. You remember, 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.080 you know, growing up in Cleveland. Before I left, I 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:17.000 saw cracks starting to come in, right, and I saw 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.160 guys that were my peers, guys of you know, either 0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.879 class above me or couple classes above me. Next thing, 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.680 they riding down street and ninety eight Olds mobiles and 0:37:26.680 --> 0:37:28.439 they can hardly be over the thing. And they got 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.080 the sounds, and you know, it's like everybody out there like, ooh, 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:33.279 you see Corey got a new you see, he got 0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:35.200 a ninety eight olds more Bill the next thing, you know, 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.560 he ain't come to class no more, but he in 0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:39.320 the parking lot after school and he got a not 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.240 full of money because he going to go buy everybody 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.640 Hamburgers at the spot. Meet me over here, we want 0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:48.880 to go buy Hamburgers. So for a minute, that image, 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.239 I would replay that image in my mind and think, man, 0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.560 I'm trying to do this football shit. Man, maybe y'all 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:55.560 need to stay here and get my hustle on. They 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.520 getting rich, I'm gonna miss out on something. You know, 0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.719 I didn't know because when you're young, impressing it. But 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:02.480 right what I didn't know is that a lot of 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.399 those guys would wind up in prison, you know, eight 0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:09.920 nine years later in some cases earlier. Right, But gangster 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:11.600 rap didn't make none of them dudes go out there 0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.279 and sell dope. That was there. I remember when I 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.799 grew up, before we bought our house right on one hundred 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.200 and third, we lived in a street called Chester. There 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.440 was an apartment building in the back. You know how 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:23.800 they was soaring back that way. You got those apartments 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:25.879 and they got a thing under him. You would see 0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:28.239 needles all outside. Because I remember my mom beating my 0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:30.800 ass one day because I went outside with no shoes. 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.279 On because she didn't want you to step on. 0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:33.759 She didn't want me to step on the needle. It 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:36.880 was the needles everywhere and gangst the wrap. What in existence? 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.680 We was listening to Bootsy callings and all that stuff. 0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.360 It wasn't so what would we go out and blamed 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.719 Bootsy for the heroin epidemic that was going on in 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:45.759 Cleveland at that time? 0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:48.200 Crack was predated gangster. 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.600 Rap exactly, That's what I'm saying. So specially it sounded 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:53.799 like he'd been sitting in the special leed class. 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.120 I don't think he'd been sitting in a special leg class. 0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.120 I don't want digg him out that hard, you know 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:04.920 what I'm saying. I just feel like in some positions, 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.239 like I say, when he started rapping when he was seventeen, 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:16.759 like I said, his his his youth or how he 0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:21.440 grew up was a reflection of what he wrote about. 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:23.239 I'm a I'm a i'm an MC. 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:24.520 You get me. 0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.319 So I'm gonna rap about you know, being double old 0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:30.520 fucking seven and shit like that and on missions and 0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.840 I'm gonna just I'm gonna make feel good records. 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:34.640 You feel me. 0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.920 Let my nigga grew up in in fucking the projects 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:43.000 in the Bronx and got his ass beat a couple 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:46.719 of times, and Mama was on crack, and you know, 0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:50.920 Pops was in the pin for you know, hustling heroin 0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.680 and shit like that. I'm pretty sure his story would 0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:58.560 have been different. Uh, to be an artist, you know, 0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:04.800 this game is kind of petition. It's not designated for whoever. 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.719 You know, you put our good music, motherfucker's gonna love it. 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.239 I mean shit, he had a gold fucking album when 0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:14.799 he fucking dropped, you know, because that's what represented hip 0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:15.600 hop at the time. 0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.160 I still say HL kind of letting him off the hook. 0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.840 I still say a lot of his words were based 0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:23.960 on malice in his heart, whether it's and I say 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:28.080 hold on whether subconscious or conscious. Because the way he 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.800 said that, you could see he was just real deliberate, like, okay, 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:32.680 y'all really doing this right now, I'm gonna go in. 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:36.080 They ruined everything. He might as well came out and said, man, 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.840 my record sales slowed up after that. People stopped fucking 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:40.640 with me because they wanted to hear that shit over there. 0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:42.719 And I was done. I was out. Of here. 0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:49.319 I mean, that's true, but he's not gonna admit to that. 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.080 I'm not gonna turn around and admit to man, they 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.200 kind of killed my career. Instead of saying they killed 0:40:56.239 --> 0:41:00.160 my career, I'm gonna say they destroyed the culture. You 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:03.000 get me. I'm not gonna say they killed my career 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:07.920 because shit, I'm nigga. I'm I'm special fucking head, specially so. 0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:14.600 But what I'm gonna say is because my direction wasn't 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:22.479 that for the almighty pure hip hop? And again New 0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:26.160 York is the mecca and the birth of hip hop. 0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:32.799 So for him to be one of those four front niggas, 0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.640 you know, he was one of the four fathers of 0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.719 the beginning of hip hop. With as as the aspect 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:42.839 of how I look at it, nigga, you can ask 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.040 me about special Lad and I'd be like, Nigga, that 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:50.279 motherfucker nigga that everybody banged that all the time. It 0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:53.080 was good music. I was a specially ad fan. I 0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:58.839 still am a special fan. But after after getting introduced 0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.640 to hip hop and me roam in the streets of 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:08.480 Campton and seeing my influence, to you more, I don't 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.640 bang no special d no more. I'm gonna go bang 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:15.920 me some BDP. I'm gonna go bang me some just ice. 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:20.279 I'm gonna go bang me some PSK from school e D. 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.480 I'm gonna go bang me some niggas that I feel 0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:31.080 that is relevant soil my growing up in lifestyles. You 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:35.280 get me, so no disrespect. I'm not gonna turn AVERD. 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:39.959 Just like when hip hop started, I bang fucking tone Lok. 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:44.040 I played a little Young y C is actually the 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:45.880 first open crypt record. 0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:46.960 You know what. 0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:49.239 But but but his. 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:58.560 Popularity came from Wow, dang young C. You wanted you 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:05.560 I bang. It was exactly I banged that. But when 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:11.400 I got introduced to niggas who was walking my walk, 0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.200 When I got introduced to a fucking nice tea or 0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:19.640 the fucking dub C or fucking whatever, that's my music. 0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.560 You get me not to say I didn't still bang 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.759 some of that other shit. I still banged me some 0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:30.080 motherfucking Pete Rock and Coos Mooth or some tried call quest. 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:34.480 But when it was time for me to write my lyrics, 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.879 I'm finna tell you about nigga. Last night, Nigga, we 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:43.800 was coming home and niggas dumped on us. The homie 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:46.719 was at the burger stand getting him some food, and 0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:48.839 then niggas came through and jacked him. 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:49.840 And laid him down. 0:43:51.000 --> 0:43:53.600 You know, I'm gonna tell you about the bitch over 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.040 here who got three babies by three different niggas from 0:43:57.120 --> 0:43:59.920 three different enemy hoods, and a nigga went to go 0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.080 see his baby and he got smoked. 0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:03.000 You get me. 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.320 I'm gonna tell you that because I'm a gang banging 0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.600 nigga representing the hood. When I try to change my 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:13.360 motherfucking life and go get a job, ain't shit finna 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:17.000 work for me because I got a fucking record, and shit, 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:19.040 that's what I'm finna tell you about. 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:21.879 You gotta talk about that because those can't you were 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:23.359 a voice for the voiceless. 0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:28.520 I can't tell you about hey man, that's hey. Life 0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:32.560 is a party and today we popping bottles or and 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:36.680 not even at that time like whatever, like niggas rapped 0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:38.720 about because there were records. 0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:39.719 You get me. 0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:43.600 Well, but nigga, I'm flenna tell you about what went 0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.320 on and tried New Park last night and what happened 0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.400 to niggas over here and who got killed and who 0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:53.040 this and who I need to inform niggas because I 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:54.480 really just. 0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:56.880 What I'm going through every day, Well, you fuck the 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:57.520 rap shit. 0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:00.919 Well, before we go any further on, we go into 0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:03.560 a break, but I was looking at the time we 0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.760 better go into come back with those top fifty gangster 0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.080 rap albums of all time, because I know you got to. 0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:11.239 You got your list of nights on yep, so we 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:17.680 can continue on. We'll be right back. Okay, we're back 0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:21.279 with more gangst the Chronicles. You know, we've been talking 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.440 about gangster rap for the pretty much the last forty 0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:27.359 five minutes, right, I think it's time we get into 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.520 our list. So all right, you ready? 0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:32.279 All right? 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.839 So here's from what are we doing from twenty to 0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.360 ten or twenty to fifteen since we're. 0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:39.520 Yeah, just do twenty to fifteen. 0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:41.600 Just through twenty to fifteen a week, continue out and 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.200 I think I kind of want to close it out 0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.160 next week or probably a week after. 0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.040 From fifteen to one. 0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.640 No, you go twenty to fifteen to night and then 0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.400 fifteen to ten and then then we'll do another one 0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.200 because I want to do something big for that top ten. 0:45:56.040 --> 0:46:00.480 So to me, here's and obviously we're all gonna be 0:46:00.560 --> 0:46:03.279 voting later and putting it in. But twenty I got 0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.919 fifty cent give Richard die Trying. Nineteen, I got Mob 0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:11.799 Deep Murder Music. Eighteen, I got Scarfaced The Diary. Seventeen, 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.800 I got iced t OG six. 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.319 Well, you got the Diary at number eighteen and get 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.879 rich of Die Trent Man, that's the cold list, man, 0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:20.800 Just wait. 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:27.840 Seventeen. I got ice TG sixteen, I got Coolie Wrapped, 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.800 Polo Live and let Die fifteen. I got Uncle Sam's Curse. 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.399 I like that at fifteen. I like Uncle Sam's Curse 0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:40.400 at number fifteen. This top teen is gonna be a 0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:42.280 motherfucker dog hop fifteen. 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:42.920 It's crazy. 0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.240 Yes, you know, you think about it, man, get Richard 0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:49.120 die Trying. When fifty came with that first album, he 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:53.080 what did you think about it? I thought it was 0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:58.520 a breath of fresh air from all the singy SONGI 0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:04.719 shit that was going on. You know, we was in 0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.600 that era. You know, we was in the era of 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:15.600 h baller terrific and flossiness and you know, G five 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:20.800 planes and wagons and you know, and you was either 0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.200 you was either balling or you was you was in love. 0:47:24.800 --> 0:47:28.440 You get me on rap records, that's all rap records. 0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:34.160 Was back then between the that era. You know, my 0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:35.400 man jah Ruh. 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:40.960 Had that had that run where everything was sing songy. 0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.520 And I was coming with his though dogs I had. 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.640 Which was which was you know, no disrespect, but like 0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:51.719 I said, that's what it was. You know, everything was 0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:56.239 the party, you know, the party raps and you know 0:47:57.440 --> 0:48:01.520 the women and the bikinis and the pares and well. 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:03.480 I would like to think in part what was going 0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:05.279 on in New York at that time. Puffy had a 0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:07.839 huge presence. Bad Boy Records had a huge presence, and 0:48:07.840 --> 0:48:11.120 that's what they did because you look at Big even 0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:13.799 though he was a reality rap rapper. To me, you know, 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.960 Biggie talked that street shit like a motherfucker, right. But 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:20.000 you know, with Puff, he was always gonna make the 0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.760 hooks real grandiose and there's gonna be a lot of singing. 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.719 It was gonna be bridges in the songs and shit 0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:26.720 like that. It was gonna be a lot of dancing 0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:30.319 and siny suits. So it was a welcome departure from 0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:33.560 that because fifty brought some of the same elements, but 0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:35.840 he did it almost Nick g Way and when he 0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:37.640 got with those boys from the West Coast, you know 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.120 when he got with Doctor Dre it was just on 0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:43.120 another level because it was a lot of excitement generated 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:43.920 around that album. 0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:47.480 Yeah, because that's like I said at the time, it 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:51.040 was the love making Champagne era. 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:52.880 I know you probably hated that shit, didn't you. 0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:53.919 Hey, yeah, I did. 0:48:55.400 --> 0:49:00.799 Y'all gotta understand some people. Eight is the Stephen King, 0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:04.719 a fucking rep. He's everything dark and sinister. Not that 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:06.520 it's dark and sinister, but. 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.839 I'm not. I'm like my nigga Rokim Man. I ain't 0:49:13.880 --> 0:49:17.960 no joke. Man, you feel me. And it's a time 0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.799 and a place for all that. I mean, we have 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:23.239 all kinds of artists. You know, everything is you know, 0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:27.480 lights and flash and you know, look at me, and 0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:30.160 you know, look how many girls I can fuck, and 0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:33.759 how much money I could spend, and how much champagne 0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:35.640 and bottle popping and you know that. 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:38.239 She was popping doing that era. Man, did you ever 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:40.160 get an exec come to you and say, hey, man, 0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:41.920 we want to get you some Timberland beats? 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:43.319 Well, yeah, he's from the. 0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.239 For rail in them, and have you start doing some 0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:46.920 other stuff. If I just saw you in the shiny 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:47.560 suit dog. 0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.279 That I had to go through that era because like 0:49:50.320 --> 0:49:54.520 I said, at the time, all the labels were trying 0:49:54.520 --> 0:50:00.759 to back away from the reality situation sleep what was 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:05.360 going down, because you know over there with the we 0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.000 used to fight. We used to and then we used 0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:09.560 to fight like a motherfucker man. We used to fight 0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:13.120 conventions and jack the rappers and all that. We used 0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:15.680 to fight niggas and do all that ship because you know, 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:20.080 we was bringing our beefs and our element from back 0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:24.480 home and you know, into the rap world because niggas 0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:26.120 didn't understand that. 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:28.439 It was real. 0:50:28.480 --> 0:50:32.720 I'm still from the streets music seminar. 0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:33.520 All that type of ship. 0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:37.600 So and then, like I said, when Iced Tea came 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:40.880 a cop killer, and then we had all the bit ship, 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:43.759 you know with with dog in them and the too 0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:47.200 Short then we had all the gangster ship with eight 0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.000 and the Quicks and all that ship. 0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:52.760 And even though it wasn't gangster two Life Crew. 0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:56.640 With what happened with with POC made labels start going, 0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:58.920 we don't want to touch that ship. And then you 0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:02.359 know sug was around here whooping niggas asses and all 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:06.840 that shit. So it made motherfuckers get scared. That's came 0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:10.960 the era of security in the lobbies at record labels 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:11.759 and shit like. 0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:14.080 Oh all that. It got shut down once death Ro 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:16.200 came because you know, I got my job with the 0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.560 first publishing company. I was with minor music then, right, 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:22.080 And I remember they had sent me to Warner Brothers 0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.920 to go we had some sync business, right, and I 0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:26.920 was used to just building the building and going to 0:51:26.920 --> 0:51:28.799 go see what I see. They said, no, we need 0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.520 your ID. You gotta wait right here, the dude gotta 0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:34.600 come you underside end. We need to see your driver's license. 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:36.600 And I was like, damn, what the hell is going on? 0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:40.399 Priority in started a whole like like a bank vault. Yeah, 0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.480 like a bank vault security, Like you not getting up 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:46.640 in this motherfucker without no appointment. So but yeah, it was. 0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:50.440 It was that different time of labels trying to change 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.560 the format of hip hop, and you know, like I said, 0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:57.120 that's the era we got introduced to a lot of 0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:01.920 the flashy, puffy and you know, the jar rules and 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:05.680 all that. So when fifty dropped, you know, get Rich 0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:09.120 of DoD Try and it was just refreshing, man, because 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.480 it was on some neighbor it was on some to me. 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:15.719 I considered it on some Street. 0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:18.759 Ship against against them. 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.880 And to me, it kind of changed the format and 0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:24.040 and and and unlocked the door, you know, because they 0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:27.480 try to lock us out. But after that drop, it 0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:32.360 kind of made the the sustaining of reality rap or 0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:36.320 niggas basically who didn't want to party and dance. Favor 0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.239 gave us the chance to come back because you know, 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:44.840 Snoop dropped and then you know, Dre and then came came, 0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.319 and then you know, then we had the T I 0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:50.000 S and then you know, all of it. So it 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.480 kind of gave us a lane again to you know, 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:56.799 get all get all our sustainability back. 0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:01.000 Yeah, because I think during that time, Man and fifty 0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:03.400 don't get the credit that he deserve oftentimes for that 0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:06.359 album because it was a phenomenal album, and I think 0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.719 people wanted to see him. He was got so big 0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.120 where people actually wanted to see him lose after a while, 0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:11.760 I think. 0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:15.319 Yeah, but he had built himself up through the mixtapes 0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:17.520 in the Street album so hard that. 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:20.080 He was under now boil. You couldn't stop him. It 0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:21.959 wasn't no black ball, and the black ball and didn't 0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:26.040 work on him because it was almost like him being 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:30.800 shot Lin credence to his whole career. You feel what 0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:32.920 I'm saying. It was almost like him getting shot and 0:53:32.960 --> 0:53:35.520 then him It was almost like the same shit with 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.560 pop like you know, you know, And after a while 0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:42.839 it was like I used to hear motherfuckers talk like, man, 0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:44.839 you know what if a rapper gets shot, to blow 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:46.759 up and I don't even think. Man, some of this show, 0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.960 you start seeing people orchestrating fake shootings and shit like that, 0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:51.840 you know what I'm saying. And that was part of 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:53.839 the reason why I got Mike job at that time, 0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:57.440 because before I'd applied to a few labels and wouldn't 0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:59.680 nobody get me. But then once people started running up 0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:01.640 in the moment officers, I think they wanted brothers like 0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:03.880 me up in there to try to stop people. And 0:54:03.960 --> 0:54:05.839 I told them, I see, I'm not security. If y'all 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.920 want to hire security, y'all get that. Hey, norms, I'll 0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:10.960 get those buzzes sometimes. Can you go see what these 0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.280 guys want? I'm like, man, that's not my fucking department. 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:14.719 Y'all go see what he wants. He here for his 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:15.279 fucking chick. 0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:22.239 Yeah, my I'm gonna go. I ain't got no list, 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.640 but I know my twenty to fifteen I'm gonna go 0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:38.719 King t Actor Food album incredible. I'm gonna go. I'm 0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:45.480 gonna go to the first East Siders album. 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:48.080 Deuces and Trades, the first first ones called east Siders. Okay, 0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:48.560 that's hard. 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:53.320 I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. 0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:54.600 Beef is my favorite song. 0:54:54.600 --> 0:54:56.839 I'm gonna go that. I'm gonna go to Jao What 0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:58.560 You're Gonna Do album? 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:01.280 Man, I love that album. 0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:02.520 It's a great album. 0:55:02.800 --> 0:55:06.120 My favorite song on there is easy to Get in Jail. 0:55:06.120 --> 0:55:07.400 It was hard thangs. 0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:13.080 Man, I'm gonna go Above the Law the Living like 0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:14.360 Hustler's album. 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:15.160 Phenomenal. 0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:25.640 And then my fifteen I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go there. 0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:30.440 I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Scarface The World is 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:31.239 Yours man. 0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:34.000 Really I like that man, Yeah, that's good. You went 0:55:34.040 --> 0:55:36.640 back on Yeah. Yeah, people forget about that album. 0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:38.800 Got a lot of scarface on here, a lot of 0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:40.440 scarface coming up too. 0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.560 I actually had that higher The World Is Yours. I 0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:46.239 like that album. Yeah. He had that song on there 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.279 you feel Me, the one where even having a hook 0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:51.880 on it a new day. You know what I'm saying. 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.120 You know, start off like that and all I gotta 0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:56.120 do is thank God for my mother. That was a 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:57.920 hard song right there. That was dope right. 0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:01.000 There, Faces one of the ever. 0:56:01.520 --> 0:56:05.680 And I bangs that shit today and motherfucking I got it. 0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:09.239 The other one higher though. My favorite cut though, that 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:10.560 Jesse James. 0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:14.240 Man, Oh, Jesse James, that bum bum bump bump bump 0:56:14.360 --> 0:56:18.600 bum bum bum bum. And that's when Mike Dean started 0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:20.759 coming out there, because you know, Luk Jay has sent 0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:22.200 Mike Dean out here to kind of. 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:24.960 Sit up under Dragon around this motherfucker started to do. 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:28.839 You Like Jesse James, that shit was cold. I mean 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:31.160 that motherfucker record right there is killer. 0:56:32.360 --> 0:56:39.319 But that's the the beauty of Scarface is that, like 0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:43.640 you eight to survive in the different errors, different production styles, 0:56:44.040 --> 0:56:47.680 but be able to maintain who he was as an artist. 0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:50.840 And like we even had early on deeply rooted. I 0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:54.680 mean that's like a twenty fifteen album, yeah deep We 0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:58.600 got albums that are spending like twenty plus years. So 0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:04.279 it's a beautiful thing. It's Scarface. Those that know, I 0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.560 think give Faced a lot of credit, but I think 0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:09.919 he deserves more every time. 0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:12.320 So you got so you would consider King T is 0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:17.320 against the rapper. I always thought the LIX was like 0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:18.840 a hip hop collective, like, oh. 0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:22.280 Yeah, but the Lis is not. That's not King T. 0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:24.400 King T is, that's his crew. 0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:29.160 But yeah, but King T spoke of of hood themes 0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:34.120 and he spoke a neighborhood an the licks. The Licks 0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:37.800 was all about, like I say, uh, you have some 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:44.400 artists who are outside of what we call reality rap 0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:49.160 niggas is just artists and they make songs in their 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:54.160 art form, you know, and that's like the alcoholics. That's 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:58.120 like fucking the souls of mischief to me. You know, 0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:02.840 that's exactly league. You know, people have their own lanes 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:03.760 for their music. 0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:10.160 And remember the Nuns. I always loved the Nuns. The Nuns. 0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:14.840 I used to say that album got the rhymes and 0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:16.080 beats that it was harder. 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:20.240 Remember the Militia Niga man that ship that all. 0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:25.920 That shout out told. 0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:26.840 There's a lot and that's the other thing. 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:29.480 But like I said, that's the that's the other side 0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:34.200 of hip hop. You know, everybody is in you know, neighborhood. 0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:38.280 You know artists, you know we have we have artists 0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:40.560 that you know are different in. 0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.840 Form, special ed you feel me. Ship. 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:52.720 Everybody doesn't. Everybody has not walked the life of underprivilege. 0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:56.120 You know what I'm saying. You wouldn't expect that from 0:58:56.120 --> 0:59:00.880 a motherfucker who grew up outside of you or or 0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:04.880 across the tracks over here. Man, it's dark over there. 0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:09.360 It's light, great schools, you know what I'm saying. Parents together, 0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:13.000 motherfucking you know, clean up your room and mold the 0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:16.680 front yard and walk the dog. It's motherfuckers who come 0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:20.240 from that lifestyle. But it's motherfuckers who still come from 0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:23.320 the projects and hard life and can't get a job 0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:27.000 and got a record and gotta sell dope and niggas 0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:29.800 talking about choices and shit, but you don't have them 0:59:30.360 --> 0:59:35.280 feel me. So the music reflects where you come from. 0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:39.480 This is what I say, absolutely absolutely all right, man, 0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:42.240 you're gonna get you hard tesk. Okay, here I go. 0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:44.440 You'll want to go from fifteen on up to ten. No, 0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:46.720 we're going from twenty to fifteen, from. 0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:50.680 Twenty to fifteen, Okay, jail feeling me? What you go do? 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:57.520 My deep murder music dove Ce and djil lettin Low Profile, 0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:00.720 Low Profile, the Low Profile album mom Exist Weapons of 1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.000 Mass Destruction that was against the Wrap album to me, 1:00:03.840 --> 1:00:10.160 Notorious Big, Ready to Die fifty, get rich of that. 1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:14.560 Trying weapons of mass destruction. 1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:17.880 That was a good man. That's the one that. Don't 1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:19.640 correct me if I'm wrong with that. They had some 1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:21.640 bangs and I thought that was against the Wrap album. 1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:23.920 To me, I would have said this. I would have 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:26.680 said the first record, the one would get your walk 1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:27.760 get your walk on. 1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:28.880 That's Restless. 1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:30.640 Yes, I say Restless. 1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:31.920 I like Restless. 1:00:33.000 --> 1:00:38.640 Restless is well, Restless is my That is an amazing album. 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:39.160 Restless. 1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:40.479 What I'm changing my picking. 1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:45.240 I'm picking because yeah, get your walk on his wrestless, restless. 1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:46.240 Guy, some shit confused. 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:50.919 Restless gotless and they got the motherfucking that. 1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:51.520 Was gainst the Wrap. 1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:53.280 To me, that ship was hard as he Get your 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:55.480 walk on, that's a battle cat did that and that. 1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:59.520 To Nigga got the old no, let's get drunk and yeah, 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:02.000 that was my ship. That ship was just right there 1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:02.919 with the with the rest. 1:01:03.240 --> 1:01:03.920 I changed that. 1:01:06.240 --> 1:01:07.520 Motherfuckers cracking. 1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:09.959 That was a gangster rap album because when I heard 1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:12.000 that album, I was going to Vegas with my wife. 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:14.080 Got the song on there with Nate Dog too. 1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:16.919 There's a lot of and that was when we first 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:18.280 You remember that. 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:21.800 Was like the last phase of CDs, right, that was 1:01:21.840 --> 1:01:23.760 like the findest little phase of the CDs. 1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:25.680 Right, remember when CS is big. That was like in 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.680 that final phase of people putting on physical units, right 1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:30.720 when people actually had to go out and sell records 1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:32.560 with all all this fake ship that's going on now, right. 1:01:33.560 --> 1:01:36.880 I remember I was going from here to Vegas and 1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:40.280 I banged that motherfucking Wrestless album the whole time, just 1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:43.560 kept bring it back because that beat was just so hard. 1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:46.479 And I had, like, I just got a competition sound 1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:48.600 system put in my truck. I had an expedition at 1:01:48.600 --> 1:01:51.240 that time, right, that's when the expeditions was. I had 1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:53.960 a navigator and I just got like a big sound 1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:57.160 system put in there. And when that I could drink 1:01:57.160 --> 1:01:59.840 a whole Hennessy fifth something. Call it the problem, but 1:01:59.840 --> 1:02:02.200 I'm call it a gift. Just the way that was 1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:05.360 hitting with the bump bump bump, I was like, dun 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:07.800 you was just jamming all the way. The thing that 1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:11.200 shit was hard. Shout out to exhibit Exhibit is underrated 1:02:11.200 --> 1:02:15.640 as fuck, man. I think they exhibit and all them cats, man, 1:02:15.680 --> 1:02:18.680 we got a lot of underrated cats. Out of here. Man. Yeah, 1:02:19.360 --> 1:02:21.480 there's no decided to go to get good music. 1:02:21.640 --> 1:02:26.600 Man, see a lot of good music that came from 1:02:27.000 --> 1:02:30.280 the element I guess of what we call reality rap 1:02:30.760 --> 1:02:34.240 because it's not all about gangster shit because everybody wasn't 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:38.720 claiming the neighborhood. So I got a lot of dudes 1:02:38.880 --> 1:02:45.400 who's underrated as far as you know, as far as 1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:48.280 this this list goes, it's it's been a lot of 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:54.600 classic music that people have probably forgotten about, uh, And 1:02:54.640 --> 1:02:58.720 I'm reminded every time, you know, we do this ship 1:02:59.560 --> 1:03:04.200 about uh, the greatness and where hip hop came from. Absolutely, 1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:08.400 I said I was a nigga listening to fucking I 1:03:08.520 --> 1:03:11.200 was a nigga listening to fucking from cool g rap 1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:14.800 to motherfucking mixed Master Spade. Man, I've and it's just 1:03:14.880 --> 1:03:17.960 so much good music and take it all and it's. 1:03:17.880 --> 1:03:20.240 Like yeah, and it's never ending. Like you know, we're 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:22.520 doing this listen to top fifty things. Again. These are 1:03:22.680 --> 1:03:26.360 just our opinions, right, but we I say they're somewhat 1:03:26.400 --> 1:03:29.640 subjective opinions. We're not up here just trying to force nothing. 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:33.560 We got a voted system and y'all let us know 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:35.760 what y'all think man in the comments, Man, y'all might 1:03:35.800 --> 1:03:37.520 tell us all listens full of y'all might tell us 1:03:37.520 --> 1:03:38.080 me full of shit. 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:42.320 I believe y'all were one more boss deeper. 1:03:42.720 --> 1:03:48.200 Oh man, I forgot about that was hard man killed 1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:49.040 her off the bag. 1:03:49.200 --> 1:03:51.919 That shit about ten times all the way up here. 1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:52.320 Bad. 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:55.320 I couldn't get enough of it, and we saying I 1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:58.440 got the five scales of trying to get the watts, 1:03:58.480 --> 1:04:01.040 but I'm stuck in ballwin here. She used to flow 1:04:01.200 --> 1:04:05.120 like a mother and that sample was hard to the 1:04:05.440 --> 1:04:09.120 first that that was my sample. Yeah, they sped it up, dud. 1:04:10.480 --> 1:04:13.960 That's the hood took me up to remix, man, that 1:04:14.120 --> 1:04:16.200 was all that man. Boss was my peoples. 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:16.400 Man. 1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:16.760 I was in. 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:20.080 I'm in her video process of elimination. 1:04:20.360 --> 1:04:21.160 Yeah. 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:23.480 They came to LA and shot the video and hit 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:25.600 me up. Niggas was always hitting me up to come 1:04:25.640 --> 1:04:26.400 of getting a video. 1:04:26.440 --> 1:04:27.920 Where is Boss still alive? 1:04:28.760 --> 1:04:30.800 That's the time I heard Boss. She was in Detroit 1:04:30.880 --> 1:04:33.280 on the radio. That was the last time I heard of. 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:36.040 Her, and I heard she was having some serious hot Yeah. 1:04:35.920 --> 1:04:38.160 Because somebody is Because I heard she had got real sick, 1:04:38.240 --> 1:04:40.160 so shot out the boss Man if anybody else did 1:04:40.240 --> 1:04:41.680 know Boss, tell her to get at us. I would 1:04:41.680 --> 1:04:43.680 love to have her on the show. Man on the show. 1:04:43.760 --> 1:04:45.280 I would love to have Boss on the show. 1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:46.960 And the crazy thing is. 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:51.240 When I got the album Boring Gangsters, and then I 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:54.640 was listening to it and reading the credits and like work. 1:04:54.800 --> 1:04:57.040 She did a lot of stuff with Def Jeff, who's 1:04:57.120 --> 1:04:59.800 also very underrated and underpre. 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:03.800 Dope a producer to as well as. 1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:06.840 Incredible and Eric Sermons. She had a very very excellent 1:05:06.920 --> 1:05:11.480 album and very unexpected, I guess would be another I. 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:13.479 Think what it was. I know some stuff that came 1:05:13.520 --> 1:05:15.680 out about her, like a lot of other people that 1:05:16.240 --> 1:05:18.280 oh she's not really against and no, I didn't give 1:05:18.320 --> 1:05:19.880 a fuck. She made dope ass music. 1:05:20.160 --> 1:05:22.360 Yeah, I moved. Her album is incredible. 1:05:23.280 --> 1:05:25.800 I don't think Stephen King really out there you know, shopping, 1:05:26.360 --> 1:05:27.480 you know what I'm saying. I don't think he really 1:05:27.560 --> 1:05:29.440 no serial killer, nothing like that. I think he just 1:05:29.480 --> 1:05:31.200 made really incredible horror movies. 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:33.520 Right, he'd have more bodies than about anybody. 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:37.200 Oh yeah, for sure. Man, Before we get out of here, 1:05:37.200 --> 1:05:40.120 I'm gonna tell y'all again, just one more update. Man. 1:05:40.160 --> 1:05:44.000 It said she had a major stroke and seizure in 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:48.200 twenty seventeen. Oh wow, And in twenty twenty one a 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:54.400 gofund me was set up to raise fifteen grand So ain't. 1:05:54.200 --> 1:05:56.800 They just said how our hip hop artist man like 1:05:56.880 --> 1:05:59.960 our people that was in the cultry, just get left hand. 1:06:00.120 --> 1:06:03.240 But what i've what i've I think I'm a union. 1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:07.360 I think I said this a couple of shows back. 1:06:09.560 --> 1:06:13.960 It's crazy how you can go work for one of 1:06:14.000 --> 1:06:17.560 these big major corporations right now, you know, just a 1:06:17.640 --> 1:06:22.200 regular worker general motors or hospital or whatever. You get 1:06:22.240 --> 1:06:27.480 medical right. You would think that when an artist signs 1:06:27.560 --> 1:06:31.400 to a major label or whatever, that in their contract 1:06:31.440 --> 1:06:33.840 they would stipulate they give me some of that fucking 1:06:34.040 --> 1:06:37.680 Universal or Sony health insurance because they have self assurance 1:06:37.680 --> 1:06:39.440 for the rest of the employees. The right. 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:43.240 You better you got them from the motherfucker mailing the 1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:46.560 papers to the nigga, pushing the janitor ship, cleaning up 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:47.160 the offices. 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:50.280 You're really the motherfuckers, you know, providing the capital for 1:06:50.320 --> 1:06:54.600 that business there. Why would why you know, one of 1:06:54.600 --> 1:06:56.760 the most important employees. They should won't have you nice 1:06:56.800 --> 1:06:59.000 and healthy? That's a good point, you should. We would, 1:06:59.120 --> 1:07:01.160 we would have thought about that though. You give me 1:07:01.280 --> 1:07:03.560 I heard products you had that written into his agreement 1:07:03.560 --> 1:07:05.800 though for mob Deep, you know, the rest of Peace Pride, 1:07:05.960 --> 1:07:08.240 because you know he had sick of Seale. He had 1:07:08.280 --> 1:07:11.000 that written to they contract man, that they get health insurance. 1:07:11.280 --> 1:07:13.160 It wouldn't be hard for them to do, though, Bro, 1:07:13.360 --> 1:07:14.720 you got it for everybody. 1:07:14.240 --> 1:07:16.480 Else in that mean But I guess you know as 1:07:16.520 --> 1:07:19.080 a as a young motherfucker, and you know a lot 1:07:19.120 --> 1:07:22.920 of us young signed on contracts and whatever. The last 1:07:22.920 --> 1:07:27.200 thing you're thinking about is, yeah, man, throw in my contract. Nigga, 1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:32.000 I get five years free health insurance and dental. Nigga, 1:07:32.000 --> 1:07:35.240 you ain't thinking about that like your thing is, Nigga, 1:07:35.280 --> 1:07:37.160 I need two fifty three hundred thousand. 1:07:37.360 --> 1:07:39.120 I need a million right now? Do you pay for 1:07:39.120 --> 1:07:40.200 your insurance? Rell? 1:07:40.280 --> 1:07:40.560 Yeah? 1:07:41.000 --> 1:07:42.440 So you gotta pay, and I'm pretty sure that the 1:07:42.560 --> 1:07:43.560 premium is high as hell. 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:46.160 Yeah, so that would have been a hell of a 1:07:46.400 --> 1:07:51.200 You get me in your contract. H Okay, don't even trip. 1:07:51.280 --> 1:07:53.440 What y'all want to give me? Two fifty? Fuck that 1:07:53.560 --> 1:07:56.600 two fifty. Give me two twenty five and I want 1:07:56.640 --> 1:07:59.880 five year? How long is my contract? What y'all getting 1:08:00.240 --> 1:08:03.520 five albums? Okay, for the next five to seven years. 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:04.920 I'm want free health. 1:08:04.640 --> 1:08:06.600 Insurance because you know what, it allows you to do 1:08:06.640 --> 1:08:08.880 what it allows you to actually get cobra an event 1:08:08.920 --> 1:08:11.280 like let's say your you know, career ends or whatever. 1:08:11.760 --> 1:08:13.960 You can take that insurance that give you now give 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:16.519 it a discounted rate of pretty much what they're paying 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:18.559 for it, and you can continue to pay that premium yourself, 1:08:18.560 --> 1:08:21.760 which is gonna be a lot cheaper than if you 1:08:21.760 --> 1:08:23.360 would have winn in and got that on your own. 1:08:24.280 --> 1:08:26.400 I mean, because what I just made you ten million 1:08:26.479 --> 1:08:27.920 fucking dollars, right, That's. 1:08:27.760 --> 1:08:32.559 What I'm saying. They only gave you, yeah, yeah, percent 1:08:32.680 --> 1:08:35.559 of it anyway, throwing some health insurance for them. 1:08:36.240 --> 1:08:38.320 Like you said, y'all ain't finna give me when I'm 1:08:38.320 --> 1:08:40.760 supposed to get You know what I'm saying, giving me, 1:08:40.960 --> 1:08:42.440 y'all giving me it should. 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:45.160 Be fucked five years lifetime because they've already made it. 1:08:45.160 --> 1:08:46.840 It's not gonna cost them nothing to do that. 1:08:47.080 --> 1:08:49.760 Wow, a year after the contract's over. 1:08:50.160 --> 1:08:50.880 Oh what dog? 1:08:51.200 --> 1:08:53.200 Keep my ship for as long as you want to 1:08:53.280 --> 1:08:55.800 keep making so you trying what you're finish, Hold my ship, 1:08:55.960 --> 1:08:58.840 my publishing and all that shit for the next thirty years. 1:08:59.320 --> 1:09:02.240 I can't own my ship for the next thirty years. Okay, 1:09:02.280 --> 1:09:04.000 so far as long as it suld be. Because you're 1:09:04.040 --> 1:09:06.240 technically you can argue that's a hell of a case. 1:09:06.280 --> 1:09:08.640 You could argue that you're one of the I mean 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:11.760 of the business. Now you out there doing this and 1:09:11.880 --> 1:09:14.080 that if you was a sales rep for him. Let's 1:09:14.120 --> 1:09:16.880 say you were the highest earning sales rep for that company, right, 1:09:17.040 --> 1:09:19.640 you so more CDs than the company anybody else, to 1:09:19.680 --> 1:09:22.040 all the change stores and everybody, they gonna make sure 1:09:22.080 --> 1:09:24.800 that motherfucker don't false center. I wonder if the I 1:09:24.840 --> 1:09:27.559 wonder if the big time artists do that. I wonder 1:09:27.600 --> 1:09:30.760 if the Beyonce's and the Taylor Swifts in the money. 1:09:30.439 --> 1:09:34.040 They got so much motherfucker money, I'm pretty sure get it. 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:37.639 But still wouldn't you want them to fuck that bill? 1:09:37.880 --> 1:09:40.880 Hell yeah, this shit, because let's think about it. Yeah, 1:09:40.960 --> 1:09:43.360 I'm making a gang of money. But how much is 1:09:43.439 --> 1:09:44.040 you making? 1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:44.599 Right? 1:09:45.479 --> 1:09:46.799 How much is you making? 1:09:46.960 --> 1:09:47.040 So? 1:09:47.400 --> 1:09:51.439 Yeah, I think on my new contract negotiations, I want 1:09:51.479 --> 1:09:53.639 you to pay for the next five to ten years 1:09:53.640 --> 1:09:56.240 of my health insurance. Take it out of whatever the 1:09:56.280 --> 1:09:57.639 fuck you getting already. 1:09:57.760 --> 1:09:59.679 Hell yeah. And on another note, I got a couple 1:09:59.720 --> 1:10:02.040 of other thing things where we go, Let's keep the 1:10:02.080 --> 1:10:05.080 homie crazy bowing up in prayers right now. Everybody know, 1:10:05.280 --> 1:10:07.400 you know your part was a part of the Digital 1:10:07.400 --> 1:10:09.679 Soap Bikes family for a long time and still family. 1:10:09.720 --> 1:10:13.040 You know, that's hometown right there, Crazy, We're praying for you, man. 1:10:13.160 --> 1:10:16.240 And Exhibit went in on specially. 1:10:17.560 --> 1:10:20.120 M I didn't see what I saw. 1:10:20.320 --> 1:10:24.920 I saw one of his comments, and I actually replied 1:10:24.960 --> 1:10:29.200 to Exhibit on one of his comments, and I said 1:10:29.360 --> 1:10:34.680 that not to go back on this ship, but I 1:10:34.840 --> 1:10:39.840 said that this lifestyle wasn't for everyone. 1:10:40.720 --> 1:10:41.080 Get me. 1:10:44.560 --> 1:10:48.479 A lot of people can't understand, you know, because let's 1:10:48.520 --> 1:10:51.559 face a niggas start game bang and was dumb, you know, 1:10:51.680 --> 1:10:54.080 and some of them still do. And we got a 1:10:54.080 --> 1:10:56.080 lot of that from when I was coming up and 1:10:56.880 --> 1:10:59.799 when I first started coming in the Rap gang. Uh, 1:11:00.439 --> 1:11:03.559 when we would venture out to different places and whatever. 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:06.679 People didn't understand the lifestyle of game banging. 1:11:06.760 --> 1:11:10.360 Well, it's what Exhibit said though. He said, Man, that's 1:11:10.400 --> 1:11:12.360 my family treat right there. I don't go out of 1:11:12.400 --> 1:11:15.200 my way to discourage people from expressing their opinions about 1:11:15.280 --> 1:11:17.840 hip hop, But fuck this shit special legs you out 1:11:17.880 --> 1:11:20.559 of pocket, don't make it hard for yourself. We're still active, bro. 1:11:21.720 --> 1:11:25.400 And I think that's the comment I replied to Like 1:11:25.479 --> 1:11:31.519 I said, this lifestyle wasn't for everyone. This walk of 1:11:31.600 --> 1:11:34.640 life isn't for everybody. It's hard for niggas to understand. 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:40.479 And then when you got a motherfucker who's in uh again, 1:11:40.520 --> 1:11:45.200 it's competition, you get me, it's competition. And for a 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:49.040 nigga who feels like he is in a position to 1:11:49.120 --> 1:11:54.000 where he should be recognized or respected or in a 1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:56.920 bigger place, and then you get some niggas to come 1:11:56.960 --> 1:12:00.160 along and slap you off your pedestal. And now we 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:02.280 don't even want to hear what you gotta say. These 1:12:02.360 --> 1:12:04.760 niggas is kicking real shit that I want a mother, 1:12:05.000 --> 1:12:09.559 I want to hear. So last it was, it was. 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:14.200 It was one of them scenarios where I don't think 1:12:14.200 --> 1:12:17.439 a nigga thought before he spoke, you know what I'm saying. 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:21.120 You get put in front of these cameras and you 1:12:21.240 --> 1:12:24.280 get asked questions. A lot of people aren't articulate, you know, 1:12:24.360 --> 1:12:28.400 a lot of people aren't intelligent, you know, and a 1:12:28.439 --> 1:12:31.360 lot of people in interviews they say shit that I'm 1:12:31.400 --> 1:12:34.439 probably thinking they would go back and look upon and 1:12:34.479 --> 1:12:36.280 be like, why the fuck did I say that? Or 1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:40.400 put myself in that position on the last note of that. 1:12:40.520 --> 1:12:45.760 You know, I've seen corrupting them and dazzing them. They 1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:49.840 got on a little stream with Special LD, and you 1:12:49.880 --> 1:12:52.160 know a lot of people were making the comment that 1:12:52.880 --> 1:12:56.080 he was trying to backpedal because now. 1:12:55.880 --> 1:13:00.160 It was I think he said that correct. 1:12:59.880 --> 1:13:00.400 Was they were. 1:13:00.760 --> 1:13:05.439 They were they were brainwashed by the record labels too 1:13:06.400 --> 1:13:10.680 to portray this or to man that was easy and 1:13:10.720 --> 1:13:13.600 I'm just up there making music. It wasn't, you know, 1:13:13.760 --> 1:13:16.600 because I guess. I guess because he's been getting a 1:13:16.600 --> 1:13:19.720 lot of flak. Now we're gonna put it on the 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:25.800 pressure of the record labels to push them to that narrative. 1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:28.040 Well, one thing I want to say is that this 1:13:28.439 --> 1:13:30.960 was America and that brother does have freedom of speak. 1:13:31.200 --> 1:13:31.559 Definitely. 1:13:31.600 --> 1:13:34.600 I don't think nobody mad at especially I'm not. I 1:13:34.600 --> 1:13:37.240 don't think nobody, and shit, nobody. If somebody out there 1:13:37.280 --> 1:13:39.240 thinking about putting their hands on that man and something, 1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:41.519 I don't think it's that he has the right to 1:13:41.560 --> 1:13:43.040 have his opinion. You know what, I mean, he has 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:46.680 the right to have an opinion. We're supposed to and. 1:13:46.720 --> 1:13:52.320 Slap a nigga mode because of your opinions. It's just that, uh, 1:13:52.479 --> 1:13:59.640 we feel a little insulted by saying that our foundation 1:13:59.760 --> 1:14:04.519 of hip hop is the destruction of and for him 1:14:04.520 --> 1:14:08.840 to direct it at saying like your youth, your youth 1:14:09.000 --> 1:14:11.439 and the youth in the state of youth hip hop 1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:16.479 and what's happening today is because Nwa was allowed to 1:14:16.560 --> 1:14:20.519 say fuck the police, or Nwa was allowed to say 1:14:20.560 --> 1:14:23.880 I'm straight out of Compton. You know, that's just fucking 1:14:23.960 --> 1:14:28.439 ludicrous and it sounds dumb. And you know, some niggas 1:14:28.520 --> 1:14:33.960 need to educate themselves a little more on the differences 1:14:34.120 --> 1:14:37.679 of of hip hop, like you know what I'm saying, 1:14:38.120 --> 1:14:41.439 Educate yourselves on the situations that a lot of us 1:14:41.479 --> 1:14:46.920 West Coast artists had to climb through to even get 1:14:46.960 --> 1:14:49.400 the respect that we get today as far as being 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:51.559 hip hop artist period, because they. 1:14:53.080 --> 1:14:54.560 Didn't want to see in you give me. 1:14:55.120 --> 1:14:57.880 The first time I ever remember hearing this shout out 1:14:57.920 --> 1:14:59.800 to Willie D was on Do It Like a Geo, 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:03.240 which was nineteen eighty nine, when he said the East 1:15:03.240 --> 1:15:04.400 coachs ain't playing my song. 1:15:04.439 --> 1:15:05.880 I want to know what the hell's going on? 1:15:06.920 --> 1:15:09.920 And it was bottom line is, in nineteen eighty nine, 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:16.360 it was already known that non New York rap was 1:15:17.000 --> 1:15:17.720 look down upon. 1:15:17.840 --> 1:15:17.880 It. 1:15:17.920 --> 1:15:20.599 We ain't get no respect period. I mean I used 1:15:20.640 --> 1:15:23.160 to hear you promo tours, and you know, Sony was 1:15:23.200 --> 1:15:25.439 in New York. So every time it was time to 1:15:25.479 --> 1:15:28.479 re up and do a new record, you had to 1:15:28.520 --> 1:15:32.400 go to New York. And I thought, you know, I 1:15:32.479 --> 1:15:35.360 thought it was really a waste of time going around 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:38.280 doing in stores and all of that, because I'd be like, 1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:43.800 nobody's gonna buy music to drive by record in New York. 1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:46.439 We're not New York artists. So line was around the 1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:48.200 corner when you went up there, I thought it. 1:15:48.280 --> 1:15:51.840 I mean, I sold records in New York, but it 1:15:51.880 --> 1:15:54.080 was totally different than when you went. 1:15:53.960 --> 1:15:54.800 To a Chicago. 1:15:55.400 --> 1:15:58.080 Yeah, you go to warehouse in Chicago, it's three hundred 1:15:58.120 --> 1:16:00.639 people out this music room. You go to the fucking 1:16:00.720 --> 1:16:04.040 San Francisco up to Tower Records, it's a line around 1:16:04.120 --> 1:16:05.120 the block in the corner. 1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:06.759 It's a thousand people in line. 1:16:06.880 --> 1:16:08.360 When we come strap dropped. 1:16:08.680 --> 1:16:15.400 You go to Cleveland, Detroit, fucking Arizona. Every time you 1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:18.320 get an inch store, it was a thousand people waiting. 1:16:18.800 --> 1:16:21.639 West was a big market for you. Dog, West's huge 1:16:21.640 --> 1:16:23.400 market because even to this day shot at the homely 1:16:23.439 --> 1:16:26.920 Big Court. But he was telling me that, you know, 1:16:26.920 --> 1:16:28.920 from the Holding Court podcast, right, he was telling me 1:16:28.920 --> 1:16:32.040 he was like, Man, I bought eight CD man when 1:16:32.080 --> 1:16:34.360 I was you know, a kid man, And I love 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:36.559 it because you know, he was asking about eight coming 1:16:36.600 --> 1:16:38.680 on his show, right, and he was just telling me 1:16:38.720 --> 1:16:42.040 how hoighly the high esteem that he held him up 1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:43.840 there was, you know what I mean? And I try 1:16:43.880 --> 1:16:46.280 to tell eight all the time because he ate is, mister, 1:16:46.400 --> 1:16:49.320 I'm regular person, right, I'm like eight, You are never 1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:51.240 just going to be a regular person. Some of these people, 1:16:51.280 --> 1:16:54.040 these people grew up listening to you. Dog. Yeah, I 1:16:54.080 --> 1:16:56.880 hate that shit, but it is. It was dought. They 1:16:56.920 --> 1:16:57.639 love your ass. 1:16:57.680 --> 1:16:57.920 Dog. 1:16:58.040 --> 1:17:00.240 I hate that shit, but it is what it is. Man, 1:17:00.880 --> 1:17:04.200 Take up with the fucking territory for sure. Man, Thank 1:17:04.240 --> 1:17:06.760 you guys for tuning in this week, man, and we 1:17:06.920 --> 1:17:08.720 out of here. Make sure y'all go follow us at 1:17:08.720 --> 1:17:11.400 the Gangster Chronicles podcast where you at. 1:17:11.200 --> 1:17:13.679 Eight at eight oh eight eight oh eight, Man, y'all 1:17:13.680 --> 1:17:16.519 know what it is eight oh eight on Instagram Book 1:17:16.600 --> 1:17:17.799 eight Time to jail. 1:17:18.200 --> 1:17:20.560 And Sworn Baker at Sworn Baker. 1:17:20.479 --> 1:17:23.240 And make sure y'all go check eight has a really 1:17:23.640 --> 1:17:27.000 not eight. I'm sucking up. Someone has a really dope show, 1:17:28.200 --> 1:17:31.639 Unique Access. I was trying to throw you alive as Access. 1:17:31.880 --> 1:17:33.200 Check it out on YouTube. 1:17:32.840 --> 1:17:36.240 On YouTube Man really dope interviews and videos Man with 1:17:36.320 --> 1:17:39.120 guys from Yesteryear and the guys if today is really 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:42.479 well around it, man, go check it out, please do, 1:17:42.800 --> 1:17:44.080 and we out of here. Jill