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Speaker 3: Soren Baker. Yes, yes, thanks to educate y'all a little bit. Y'all.

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Speaker 3: Young is out there. You know, it's been a lot

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Speaker 3: of positive feedback soor and since you've been on the

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Speaker 3: show with us, you know, doing your thing. But it's

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Speaker 3: And I said, Man, he's just one of the greatest

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Speaker 3: minds in hip hop. You know, it's been chronicling hip

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Speaker 3: hop for the last how many years on almost thirty

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Speaker 3: He was putting it down. As an editor for The

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Speaker 3: Source magazine has written some of the most prolific articles

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Speaker 3: in hip hop. Man, not just the Source. Motherfucker's gonna

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on? But that's what it is though, swering.

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Speaker 3: We actually glad to have you here, brother, Thank you,

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Speaker 3: congratulations man for those If you haven't got it chet,

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Speaker 4: Jy Yeah, man, Chronicles of the Juice Man anywhere you

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Speaker 3: And he got a new album. This album, you know,

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Speaker 3: that Lessons Part two and we would get started with

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Speaker 3: I had to I gotta mention this man special ed.

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Speaker 3: You know, my man went on Drink Champs and said

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Speaker 3: They're responsible for the breakdown of society. And you know

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Speaker 3: what's funny, about him saying that, man is that.

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Speaker 2: Breakdown of society much.

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Speaker 1: He said, what do he say? The appetite? They brought

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Speaker 3: but don't get a twisted Wu Tang Klan was spitting

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Speaker 2: You know, it was all kind of stuff I listened to.

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Speaker 5: Like it was four knocks.

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Speaker 3: By some shit.

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Speaker 1: Right, I watched Superman, I watched Batman as a kid.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, the music took off when when when

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Speaker 1: Because if you listen to my records, I always told

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Speaker 1: you the consequence of banging.

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00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 5: And that, to me, is one of the keys to this.

435
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: I never told you that your life was going to

436
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: be lucrative and fun by being from the hood and

437
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: gang banging. I never told you that on records. I

438
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: told you what a life of niggas went through growing

439
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: up in my walk of life.

440
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: Because any further we're gonna take a quick break pay

441
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: some bills here and we're gonna come right back. So basically,

442
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: we never spoke on.

443
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: The fucking.

444
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: I guess you want to say the rewards of gang

445
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: banging or being from the hood.

446
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: It was always.

447
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 5: Look at growing up in the hood.

448
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: If you.

449
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: Break it down, growing up in the hood, I talk

450
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: about whatever minutes to society with straight up minutes. I

451
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: talk about the flip side of of neighborhood whatever. I

452
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: wrote songs like, I wrote songs like Nigga Struggling. I

453
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: wrote songs like the hood took me under. I wrote

454
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: songs that basically portrayed the gangster lifestyle, but it never

455
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: ended up because I don't give fuck how rich or

456
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: lucrative or you know, hood niggas is driving in Rose

457
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: Royce is now and Lamborghini's and shit, But a true

458
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: hood nigga, no, there's pitfalls behind. So it was never

459
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: a portrayed or exploited to the youth that this is

460
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: what you do, you get me.

461
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 4: And I think that's the big part that's missing. Because

462
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 4: schoolyde Iced t Nwa yourself quick, a lot of the

463
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 4: early most popular artists always broke down the pitfalls. Project

464
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 4: Pat came later he's another dude that was always talking

465
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 4: about you're gonna get incarcerated, You're gonna get shot. This

466
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: person look at colors iced Tea talking about, you know,

467
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: sister got tracks on an arm? What is that from

468
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: drug use? I mean, it's like everybody is breaking it

469
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 4: down in different ways.

470
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 5: You're getting gonna get jack.

471
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: And then there's another there's another thing.

472
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: I paid attention to when they asked him to question

473
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: and he reverted to saying something like so for real,

474
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: like this is what we're doing. Like when he when

475
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: he spoke on the fact that NWA was getting popular

476
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: and the music was you know, so he made a

477
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: comment like, so for real, this is what we're doing,

478
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: like to say, like, okay, we finna let hip hop

479
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: let this in.

480
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: This is what we're finna do.

481
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: So we finna let niggas start talking about driving in

482
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: old school cars and wearing khaki suits and saying bitching

483
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: ho and and fuck the pope. So that's what we're

484
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: finna do. Like, what do you mean that's my artistic expression?

485
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: That that's that's that's what I that's what I'm doing.

486
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play what he said right here, real quick,

487
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: go ahead, I'm gonna play the comments see it. Especially

488
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: he even got a Jerry Curl. So we can't talk

489
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: about nobody Wu Tang who Tang is for the kids?

490
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 6: Now?

491
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: You know what besides that, man Wu Tang was dropping

492
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: knowledge and positivity.

493
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: You know, n w A brought the age of destruction,

494
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: Damn Jesus.

495
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: N w A brought the age of destruction to our

496
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: children and our culture.

497
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: Period. Hey, I respect all.

498
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 4: Of them as men, but as the art form, and

499
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: you want me to speak on the art pharm, I'm

500
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: gonna tell you what it is.

501
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: That's where it started. That's where the agenda started.

502
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 5: Well it didn't start there.

503
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: That was the third of the demise of his career, but.

504
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: It was in the But all those things were happening

505
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: in society for decades before Nwa, before Ice Cube it

506
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: wrote his first rap. He had nothing to do with

507
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: the creation of any of that that had been happening

508
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: in the United States of America for decades.

509
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: But then after that part what we just played, he

510
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: went on to say some shit like like for real,

511
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing, like speaking on the music

512
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: that Nwa was that was getting popular, and just just.

513
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: He said, woo tang was for the kids, and.

514
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Did he say like there was there was educational or

515
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: positive and uplifting my nigga, my nigga. Ray Kwan said,

516
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: he pointed a gun at his at a mother's knot.

517
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 2: They they.

518
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: It ain't no hate in the Wu Tang because we

519
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: all no, it's.

520
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Not it's not even hating on Wu tang because they

521
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: were expressing. They were expressing the same ship, were growing

522
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: up in the projects, were living on Staten Island and

523
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Shallen that's that's our spot and that's how we get down.

524
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: They words reflected where you know.

525
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: All things. The rep was, I'm sorry to cut you up, but.

526
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: You but you but but even not to cut you

527
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: but you hear When he said that, the expressions from

528
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: everyone in the room was like they sort of kind

529
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: of laughed at one point, like nikko, you for real?

530
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: Like whoa?

531
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: Like they didn't he listen what he said?

532
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: Like they destroyed the culture, the culture of what hip hop.

533
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: That's what he pretty much said. And because tried to

534
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: clean it up a little bit. He tried to clean

535
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: it up and dress it up. So when I want

536
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: to hear your takes you about to say something, I

537
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: know you say some profound.

538
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 4: My thing is this, when you listen to Cash rules

539
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: everything around me? Can it all be so simple? These

540
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: are not happy songs. They're very sad. It's gangster rap

541
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: from the East Coast perspective, but it's also well I'd

542
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: say it's more street reporting that type of stuff, because

543
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: it's not gangbanging reality rap, schouty rapids street reporting. But

544
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: my point is when they're when Ray Kwan and Inspector

545
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: Deck and all the in particular, when they're doing their verses,

546
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: they are not to Eight's point, they're not celebrating or

547
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 4: in the hood. They're talking about the struggle, the problems

548
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: today exactly the anger. And they're also doing it just

549
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: as mc A did, just as Ice Cube did in

550
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: their perspective, from the Staten Island perspective.

551
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: To me, all reality rap was was a bunch of

552
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: guys talking about their neighborhood from their now. I will admit,

553
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: during about ninety five ninety six, once record companies discovered

554
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: that gainst the rap was lucrative, you saw a bunch

555
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: of crazy groups start popping up. There were ultra violent

556
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: kind of like you know, but still entertainment.

557
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I want to say my nigga

558
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: was high or something. Now that's what I was just say.

559
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: I would say it was high or something. What he thought.

560
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: They didn't think it through.

561
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: You did me because I just don't see how you

562
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: can even fix your mouth to say.

563
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 4: There's some shit. There's two things of this one. Rap

564
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: has a Rap did not start political. Rap started party

565
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: Braggadio Show, which is a big misconception. So people have

566
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 4: that in their mind, but it's not true. It was

567
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: the Routines and the Braggadio Show. It was Cold Crush,

568
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: it was Grandmaster Flashing and Fears five. It wasn't until

569
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: years later that the political commentary came into rap. So

570
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: first of a, well, let's make sure we understand that.

571
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 4: But then beyond that, when an eight and steel, you

572
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 4: guys both notice when there were pop rappers, people thought

573
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: they were whack no sound, It wasn't any good. They

574
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 4: liked some pop rap. So what I'm saying is every form,

575
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: every subgenre of rap, just like every other form of music,

576
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 4: there's gonna be good illustrations of it, there's gonna be bad,

577
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: whether that's critically or commercially. And sometimes those intersects, sometimes

578
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: they don't and and the problem is is, to me,

579
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 4: the several of the problems are Gangster rap was so

580
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: different and so powerful, which is why it became so popular.

581
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: Beyond that, just like with pop rap, with conscious rap,

582
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 4: with whatever other type of rap, backpack rap, some of

583
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: it got popular, some of it didn't. Some of the

584
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 4: artists were better, some of them weren't. When you have

585
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 4: a dude just saying in this be that I'm gonna

586
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 4: shoot up three thousand people, none of us are gonna

587
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 4: sit here and say that's as good as Ice Tea

588
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: or ice Cube or NWA. But that's with every type

589
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: of rap. That's what every type of music. And at

590
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 4: the end of the day, so on, it's entertainment. I

591
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 4: tell you this. I've never went to a movie and

592
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: saw a bunch of gratuitous violence and went outside and

593
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: just started shooting people in the parking lot.

594
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 3: No, I just thought it was a cool movie, right.

595
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: I've listened to albums that where they may have took.

596
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: You know, Ghetto Boys one of my favorite group. You know,

597
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: as soon as we if we ever get to this

598
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 3: list tonight, you know, Ghetto Boys one of my favorite group.

599
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: Shout out to my boy Willie d me and him

600
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: was on the phone all day to day talking about

601
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: some stuff we were about to start doing. But they had

602
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 3: some songs like assassins and stuff like that. I didn't

603
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: take that as thinking that Bushwick was running around Houston

604
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: a mind of a lunatic. I didn't take that the

605
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 3: scarface was really sitting in the room somewhere with candles

606
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: all around them, thinking of the people he murdered. You

607
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: know what I mean, he would be in prison. I

608
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: knew that I had. It's common sense, right, But I

609
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: think what gangster Rap did, and I keep saying this,

610
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 3: by me being the Midwest, it opened it really because

611
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: I knew stuff had been going on the hood. You remember,

612
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: you know, growing up in Cleveland. Before I left, I

613
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: saw cracks starting to come in, right, and I saw

614
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: guys that were my peers, guys of you know, either

615
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 3: class above me or couple classes above me. Next thing,

616
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: they riding down street and ninety eight Olds mobiles and

617
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 3: they can hardly be over the thing. And they got

618
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: the sounds, and you know, it's like everybody out there like, ooh,

619
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: you see Corey got a new you see, he got

620
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: a ninety eight olds more Bill the next thing, you know,

621
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: he ain't come to class no more, but he in

622
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 3: the parking lot after school and he got a not

623
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 3: full of money because he going to go buy everybody

624
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 3: Hamburgers at the spot. Meet me over here, we want

625
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: to go buy Hamburgers. So for a minute, that image,

626
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: I would replay that image in my mind and think, man,

627
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do this football shit. Man, maybe y'all

628
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: need to stay here and get my hustle on. They

629
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: getting rich, I'm gonna miss out on something. You know,

630
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: I didn't know because when you're young, impressing it. But

631
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 3: right what I didn't know is that a lot of

632
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 3: those guys would wind up in prison, you know, eight

633
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: nine years later in some cases earlier. Right, But gangster

634
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: rap didn't make none of them dudes go out there

635
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: and sell dope. That was there. I remember when I

636
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 3: grew up, before we bought our house right on one hundred

637
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: and third, we lived in a street called Chester. There

638
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: was an apartment building in the back. You know how

639
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: they was soaring back that way. You got those apartments

640
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 3: and they got a thing under him. You would see

641
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: needles all outside. Because I remember my mom beating my

642
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: ass one day because I went outside with no shoes.

643
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 5: On because she didn't want you to step on.

644
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: She didn't want me to step on the needle. It

645
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: was the needles everywhere and gangst the wrap. What in existence?

646
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: We was listening to Bootsy callings and all that stuff.

647
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: It wasn't so what would we go out and blamed

648
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: Bootsy for the heroin epidemic that was going on in

649
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: Cleveland at that time?

650
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 5: Crack was predated gangster.

651
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 3: Rap exactly, That's what I'm saying. So specially it sounded

652
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: like he'd been sitting in the special leed class.

653
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he'd been sitting in a special leg class.

654
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: I don't want digg him out that hard, you know

655
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just feel like in some positions,

656
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: like I say, when he started rapping when he was seventeen,

657
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: like I said, his his his youth or how he

658
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: grew up was a reflection of what he wrote about.

659
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a i'm an MC.

660
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: You get me.

661
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna rap about you know, being double old

662
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: fucking seven and shit like that and on missions and

663
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I'm gonna make feel good records.

664
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 3: You feel me.

665
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Let my nigga grew up in in fucking the projects

666
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: in the Bronx and got his ass beat a couple

667
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: of times, and Mama was on crack, and you know,

668
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: Pops was in the pin for you know, hustling heroin

669
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: and shit like that. I'm pretty sure his story would

670
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: have been different. Uh, to be an artist, you know,

671
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: this game is kind of petition. It's not designated for whoever.

672
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: You know, you put our good music, motherfucker's gonna love it.

673
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean shit, he had a gold fucking album when

674
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: he fucking dropped, you know, because that's what represented hip

675
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: hop at the time.

676
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: I still say HL kind of letting him off the hook.

677
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: I still say a lot of his words were based

678
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: on malice in his heart, whether it's and I say

679
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: hold on whether subconscious or conscious. Because the way he

680
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: said that, you could see he was just real deliberate, like, okay,

681
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: y'all really doing this right now, I'm gonna go in.

682
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: They ruined everything. He might as well came out and said, man,

683
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: my record sales slowed up after that. People stopped fucking

684
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: with me because they wanted to hear that shit over there.

685
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: And I was done. I was out. Of here.

686
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: I mean, that's true, but he's not gonna admit to that.

687
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna turn around and admit to man, they

688
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: kind of killed my career. Instead of saying they killed

689
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: my career, I'm gonna say they destroyed the culture. You

690
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: get me. I'm not gonna say they killed my career

691
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: because shit, I'm nigga. I'm I'm special fucking head, specially so.

692
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: But what I'm gonna say is because my direction wasn't

693
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 1: that for the almighty pure hip hop? And again New

694
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: York is the mecca and the birth of hip hop.

695
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: So for him to be one of those four front niggas,

696
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, he was one of the four fathers of

697
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: the beginning of hip hop. With as as the aspect

698
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: of how I look at it, nigga, you can ask

699
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: me about special Lad and I'd be like, Nigga, that

700
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: motherfucker nigga that everybody banged that all the time. It

701
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: was good music. I was a specially ad fan. I

702
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: still am a special fan. But after after getting introduced

703
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: to hip hop and me roam in the streets of

704
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: Campton and seeing my influence, to you more, I don't

705
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: bang no special d no more. I'm gonna go bang

706
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: me some BDP. I'm gonna go bang me some just ice.

707
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go bang me some PSK from school e D.

708
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go bang me some niggas that I feel

709
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: that is relevant soil my growing up in lifestyles. You

710
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: get me, so no disrespect. I'm not gonna turn AVERD.

711
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,959
Speaker 1: Just like when hip hop started, I bang fucking tone Lok.

712
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: I played a little Young y C is actually the

713
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: first open crypt record.

714
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: You know what.

715
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: But but but his.

716
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: Popularity came from Wow, dang young C. You wanted you

717
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: I bang. It was exactly I banged that. But when

718
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: I got introduced to niggas who was walking my walk,

719
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: When I got introduced to a fucking nice tea or

720
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: the fucking dub C or fucking whatever, that's my music.

721
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: You get me not to say I didn't still bang

722
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: some of that other shit. I still banged me some

723
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: motherfucking Pete Rock and Coos Mooth or some tried call quest.

724
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: But when it was time for me to write my lyrics,

725
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: I'm finna tell you about nigga. Last night, Nigga, we

726
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: was coming home and niggas dumped on us. The homie

727
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: was at the burger stand getting him some food, and

728
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: then niggas came through and jacked him.

729
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: And laid him down.

730
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you about the bitch over

731
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: here who got three babies by three different niggas from

732
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: three different enemy hoods, and a nigga went to go

733
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: see his baby and he got smoked.

734
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: You get me.

735
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that because I'm a gang banging

736
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: nigga representing the hood. When I try to change my

737
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: motherfucking life and go get a job, ain't shit finna

738
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: work for me because I got a fucking record, and shit,

739
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm finna tell you about.

740
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 3: You gotta talk about that because those can't you were

741
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: a voice for the voiceless.

742
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: I can't tell you about hey man, that's hey. Life

743
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: is a party and today we popping bottles or and

744
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: not even at that time like whatever, like niggas rapped

745
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: about because there were records.

746
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: You get me.

747
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Well, but nigga, I'm flenna tell you about what went

748
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: on and tried New Park last night and what happened

749
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: to niggas over here and who got killed and who

750
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: this and who I need to inform niggas because I

751
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: really just.

752
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: What I'm going through every day, Well, you fuck the

753
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: rap shit.

754
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 3: Well, before we go any further on, we go into

755
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: a break, but I was looking at the time we

756
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 3: better go into come back with those top fifty gangster

757
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: rap albums of all time, because I know you got to.

758
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: You got your list of nights on yep, so we

759
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: can continue on. We'll be right back. Okay, we're back

760
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: with more gangst the Chronicles. You know, we've been talking

761
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: about gangster rap for the pretty much the last forty

762
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 3: five minutes, right, I think it's time we get into

763
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: our list. So all right, you ready?

764
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 5: All right?

765
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 4: So here's from what are we doing from twenty to

766
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 4: ten or twenty to fifteen since we're.

767
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, just do twenty to fifteen.

768
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: Just through twenty to fifteen a week, continue out and

769
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: I think I kind of want to close it out

770
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: next week or probably a week after.

771
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 5: From fifteen to one.

772
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: No, you go twenty to fifteen to night and then

773
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: fifteen to ten and then then we'll do another one

774
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: because I want to do something big for that top ten.

775
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 4: So to me, here's and obviously we're all gonna be

776
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: voting later and putting it in. But twenty I got

777
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 4: fifty cent give Richard die Trying. Nineteen, I got Mob

778
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: Deep Murder Music. Eighteen, I got Scarfaced The Diary. Seventeen,

779
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 4: I got iced t OG six.

780
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: Well, you got the Diary at number eighteen and get

781
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 3: rich of Die Trent Man, that's the cold list, man,

782
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: Just wait.

783
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 5: Seventeen. I got ice TG sixteen, I got Coolie Wrapped,

784
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 5: Polo Live and let Die fifteen. I got Uncle Sam's Curse.

785
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 3: I like that at fifteen. I like Uncle Sam's Curse

786
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: at number fifteen. This top teen is gonna be a

787
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,280
Speaker 3: motherfucker dog hop fifteen.

788
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

789
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, you think about it, man, get Richard

790
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: die Trying. When fifty came with that first album, he

791
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: what did you think about it? I thought it was

792
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: a breath of fresh air from all the singy SONGI

793
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 3: shit that was going on. You know, we was in

794
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: that era. You know, we was in the era of

795
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: h baller terrific and flossiness and you know, G five

796
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: planes and wagons and you know, and you was either

797
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: you was either balling or you was you was in love.

798
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: You get me on rap records, that's all rap records.

799
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: Was back then between the that era. You know, my

800
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: man jah Ruh.

801
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: Had that had that run where everything was sing songy.

802
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: And I was coming with his though dogs I had.

803
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: Which was which was you know, no disrespect, but like

804
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: I said, that's what it was. You know, everything was

805
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: the party, you know, the party raps and you know

806
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: the women and the bikinis and the pares and well.

807
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 3: I would like to think in part what was going

808
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: on in New York at that time. Puffy had a

809
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 3: huge presence. Bad Boy Records had a huge presence, and

810
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: that's what they did because you look at Big even

811
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 3: though he was a reality rap rapper. To me, you know,

812
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: Biggie talked that street shit like a motherfucker, right. But

813
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: you know, with Puff, he was always gonna make the

814
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 3: hooks real grandiose and there's gonna be a lot of singing.

815
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: It was gonna be bridges in the songs and shit

816
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 3: like that. It was gonna be a lot of dancing

817
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: and siny suits. So it was a welcome departure from

818
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: that because fifty brought some of the same elements, but

819
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 3: he did it almost Nick g Way and when he

820
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: got with those boys from the West Coast, you know

821
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: when he got with Doctor Dre it was just on

822
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: another level because it was a lot of excitement generated

823
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: around that album.

824
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's like I said at the time, it

825
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: was the love making Champagne era.

826
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: I know you probably hated that shit, didn't you.

827
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I did.

828
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: Y'all gotta understand some people. Eight is the Stephen King,

829
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: a fucking rep. He's everything dark and sinister. Not that

830
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: it's dark and sinister, but.

831
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm like my nigga Rokim Man. I ain't

832
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: no joke. Man, you feel me. And it's a time

833
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: and a place for all that. I mean, we have

834
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: all kinds of artists. You know, everything is you know,

835
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: lights and flash and you know, look at me, and

836
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, look how many girls I can fuck, and

837
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: how much money I could spend, and how much champagne

838
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: and bottle popping and you know that.

839
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: She was popping doing that era. Man, did you ever

840
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: get an exec come to you and say, hey, man,

841
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: we want to get you some Timberland beats?

842
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's from the.

843
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: For rail in them, and have you start doing some

844
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: other stuff. If I just saw you in the shiny

845
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: suit dog.

846
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: That I had to go through that era because like

847
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: I said, at the time, all the labels were trying

848
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: to back away from the reality situation sleep what was

849
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: going down, because you know over there with the we

850
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: used to fight. We used to and then we used

851
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: to fight like a motherfucker man. We used to fight

852
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: conventions and jack the rappers and all that. We used

853
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: to fight niggas and do all that ship because you know,

854
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: we was bringing our beefs and our element from back

855
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: home and you know, into the rap world because niggas

856
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: didn't understand that.

857
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 5: It was real.

858
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm still from the streets music seminar.

859
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: All that type of ship.

860
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: So and then, like I said, when Iced Tea came

861
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: a cop killer, and then we had all the bit ship,

862
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: you know with with dog in them and the too

863
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: Short then we had all the gangster ship with eight

864
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: and the Quicks and all that ship.

865
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 5: And even though it wasn't gangster two Life Crew.

866
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: With what happened with with POC made labels start going,

867
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: we don't want to touch that ship. And then you

868
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: know sug was around here whooping niggas asses and all

869
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: that shit. So it made motherfuckers get scared. That's came

870
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: the era of security in the lobbies at record labels

871
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: and shit like.

872
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: Oh all that. It got shut down once death Ro

873
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: came because you know, I got my job with the

874
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: first publishing company. I was with minor music then, right,

875
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: And I remember they had sent me to Warner Brothers

876
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: to go we had some sync business, right, and I

877
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 3: was used to just building the building and going to

878
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: go see what I see. They said, no, we need

879
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: your ID. You gotta wait right here, the dude gotta

880
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: come you underside end. We need to see your driver's license.

881
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: And I was like, damn, what the hell is going on?

882
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 3: Priority in started a whole like like a bank vault. Yeah,

883
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 3: like a bank vault security, Like you not getting up

884
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: in this motherfucker without no appointment. So but yeah, it was.

885
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: It was that different time of labels trying to change

886
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: the format of hip hop, and you know, like I said,

887
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: that's the era we got introduced to a lot of

888
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: the flashy, puffy and you know, the jar rules and

889
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: all that. So when fifty dropped, you know, get Rich

890
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: of DoD Try and it was just refreshing, man, because

891
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: it was on some neighbor it was on some to me.

892
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: I considered it on some Street.

893
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 3: Ship against against them.

894
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: And to me, it kind of changed the format and

895
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: and and and unlocked the door, you know, because they

896
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: try to lock us out. But after that drop, it

897
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: kind of made the the sustaining of reality rap or

898
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: niggas basically who didn't want to party and dance. Favor

899
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: gave us the chance to come back because you know,

900
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: Snoop dropped and then you know, Dre and then came came,

901
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: and then you know, then we had the T I

902
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: S and then you know, all of it. So it

903
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: kind of gave us a lane again to you know,

904
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: get all get all our sustainability back.

905
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think during that time, Man and fifty

906
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: don't get the credit that he deserve oftentimes for that

907
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 3: album because it was a phenomenal album, and I think

908
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: people wanted to see him. He was got so big

909
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: where people actually wanted to see him lose after a while,

910
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 3: I think.

911
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he had built himself up through the mixtapes

912
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 4: in the Street album so hard that.

913
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 3: He was under now boil. You couldn't stop him. It

914
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,959
Speaker 3: wasn't no black ball, and the black ball and didn't

915
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: work on him because it was almost like him being

916
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 3: shot Lin credence to his whole career. You feel what

917
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It was almost like him getting shot and

918
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: then him It was almost like the same shit with

919
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: pop like you know, you know, And after a while

920
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 3: it was like I used to hear motherfuckers talk like, man,

921
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 3: you know what if a rapper gets shot, to blow

922
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: up and I don't even think. Man, some of this show,

923
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: you start seeing people orchestrating fake shootings and shit like that,

924
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And that was part of

925
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 3: the reason why I got Mike job at that time,

926
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: because before I'd applied to a few labels and wouldn't

927
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 3: nobody get me. But then once people started running up

928
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: in the moment officers, I think they wanted brothers like

929
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 3: me up in there to try to stop people. And

930
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 3: I told them, I see, I'm not security. If y'all

931
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: want to hire security, y'all get that. Hey, norms, I'll

932
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: get those buzzes sometimes. Can you go see what these

933
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 3: guys want? I'm like, man, that's not my fucking department.

934
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 3: Y'all go see what he wants. He here for his

935
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: fucking chick.

936
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, my I'm gonna go. I ain't got no list,

937
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: but I know my twenty to fifteen I'm gonna go

938
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: King t Actor Food album incredible. I'm gonna go. I'm

939
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: gonna go to the first East Siders album.

940
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 3: Deuces and Trades, the first first ones called east Siders. Okay,

941
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: that's hard.

942
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.

943
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 5: Beef is my favorite song.

944
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go that. I'm gonna go to Jao What

945
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: You're Gonna Do album?

946
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 3: Man, I love that album.

947
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 5: It's a great album.

948
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: My favorite song on there is easy to Get in Jail.

949
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 3: It was hard thangs.

950
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna go Above the Law the Living like

951
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: Hustler's album.

952
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 5: Phenomenal.

953
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: And then my fifteen I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go there.

954
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Scarface The World is

955
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: Yours man.

956
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: Really I like that man, Yeah, that's good. You went

957
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 3: back on Yeah. Yeah, people forget about that album.

958
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 4: Got a lot of scarface on here, a lot of

959
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: scarface coming up too.

960
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: I actually had that higher The World Is Yours. I

961
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: like that album. Yeah. He had that song on there

962
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: you feel Me, the one where even having a hook

963
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 3: on it a new day. You know what I'm saying.

964
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: You know, start off like that and all I gotta

965
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 3: do is thank God for my mother. That was a

966
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 3: hard song right there. That was dope right.

967
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 5: There, Faces one of the ever.

968
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: And I bangs that shit today and motherfucking I got it.

969
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: The other one higher though. My favorite cut though, that

970
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: Jesse James.

971
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 3: Man, Oh, Jesse James, that bum bum bump bump bump

972
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: bum bum bum bum. And that's when Mike Dean started

973
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: coming out there, because you know, Luk Jay has sent

974
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 3: Mike Dean out here to kind of.

975
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: Sit up under Dragon around this motherfucker started to do.

976
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 1: You Like Jesse James, that shit was cold. I mean

977
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: that motherfucker record right there is killer.

978
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 4: But that's the the beauty of Scarface is that, like

979
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 4: you eight to survive in the different errors, different production styles,

980
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 4: but be able to maintain who he was as an artist.

981
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 4: And like we even had early on deeply rooted. I

982
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 4: mean that's like a twenty fifteen album, yeah deep We

983
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: got albums that are spending like twenty plus years. So

984
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 4: it's a beautiful thing. It's Scarface. Those that know, I

985
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: think give Faced a lot of credit, but I think

986
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 4: he deserves more every time.

987
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 3: So you got so you would consider King T is

988
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 3: against the rapper. I always thought the LIX was like

989
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: a hip hop collective, like, oh.

990
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Lis is not. That's not King T.

991
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 2: King T is, that's his crew.

992
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, but King T spoke of of hood themes

993
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: and he spoke a neighborhood an the licks. The Licks

994
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: was all about, like I say, uh, you have some

995
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: artists who are outside of what we call reality rap

996
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: niggas is just artists and they make songs in their

997
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: art form, you know, and that's like the alcoholics. That's

998
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: like fucking the souls of mischief to me. You know,

999
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: that's exactly league. You know, people have their own lanes

1000
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: for their music.

1001
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 5: And remember the Nuns. I always loved the Nuns. The Nuns.

1002
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: I used to say that album got the rhymes and

1003
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: beats that it was harder.

1004
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: Remember the Militia Niga man that ship that all.

1005
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: That shout out told.

1006
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 5: There's a lot and that's the other thing.

1007
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: But like I said, that's the that's the other side

1008
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: of hip hop. You know, everybody is in you know, neighborhood.

1009
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: You know artists, you know we have we have artists

1010
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: that you know are different in.

1011
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: Form, special ed you feel me. Ship.

1012
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't. Everybody has not walked the life of underprivilege.

1013
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You wouldn't expect that from

1014
00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: a motherfucker who grew up outside of you or or

1015
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: across the tracks over here. Man, it's dark over there.

1016
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: It's light, great schools, you know what I'm saying. Parents together,

1017
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: motherfucking you know, clean up your room and mold the

1018
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: front yard and walk the dog. It's motherfuckers who come

1019
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: from that lifestyle. But it's motherfuckers who still come from

1020
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: the projects and hard life and can't get a job

1021
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: and got a record and gotta sell dope and niggas

1022
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: talking about choices and shit, but you don't have them

1023
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: feel me. So the music reflects where you come from.

1024
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 6: This is what I say, absolutely absolutely all right, man,

1025
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 6: you're gonna get you hard tesk. Okay, here I go.

1026
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 6: You'll want to go from fifteen on up to ten. No,

1027
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 6: we're going from twenty to fifteen, from.

1028
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: Twenty to fifteen, Okay, jail feeling me? What you go do?

1029
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: My deep murder music dove Ce and djil lettin Low Profile,

1030
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 3: Low Profile, the Low Profile album mom Exist Weapons of

1031
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: Mass Destruction that was against the Wrap album to me,

1032
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: Notorious Big, Ready to Die fifty, get rich of that.

1033
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: Trying weapons of mass destruction.

1034
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: That was a good man. That's the one that. Don't

1035
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong with that. They had some

1036
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 3: bangs and I thought that was against the Wrap album.

1037
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 3: To me, I would have said this. I would have

1038
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 3: said the first record, the one would get your walk

1039
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: get your walk on.

1040
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 5: That's Restless.

1041
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I say Restless.

1042
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 2: I like Restless.

1043
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 4: Restless is well, Restless is my That is an amazing album.

1044
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 2: Restless.

1045
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 3: What I'm changing my picking.

1046
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm picking because yeah, get your walk on his wrestless, restless.

1047
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: Guy, some shit confused.

1048
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 2: Restless gotless and they got the motherfucking that.

1049
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: Was gainst the Wrap.

1050
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: To me, that ship was hard as he Get your

1051
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 4: walk on, that's a battle cat did that and that.

1052
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: To Nigga got the old no, let's get drunk and yeah,

1053
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: that was my ship. That ship was just right there

1054
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: with the with the rest.

1055
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 3: I changed that.

1056
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers cracking.

1057
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,959
Speaker 3: That was a gangster rap album because when I heard

1058
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 3: that album, I was going to Vegas with my wife.

1059
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: Got the song on there with Nate Dog too.

1060
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 5: There's a lot of and that was when we first

1061
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 5: You remember that.

1062
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: Was like the last phase of CDs, right, that was

1063
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: like the findest little phase of the CDs.

1064
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: Right, remember when CS is big. That was like in

1065
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: that final phase of people putting on physical units, right

1066
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 3: when people actually had to go out and sell records

1067
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 3: with all all this fake ship that's going on now, right.

1068
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: I remember I was going from here to Vegas and

1069
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 3: I banged that motherfucking Wrestless album the whole time, just

1070
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 3: kept bring it back because that beat was just so hard.

1071
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,479
Speaker 3: And I had, like, I just got a competition sound

1072
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 3: system put in my truck. I had an expedition at

1073
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: that time, right, that's when the expeditions was. I had

1074
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 3: a navigator and I just got like a big sound

1075
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 3: system put in there. And when that I could drink

1076
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 3: a whole Hennessy fifth something. Call it the problem, but

1077
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm call it a gift. Just the way that was

1078
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: hitting with the bump bump bump, I was like, dun

1079
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: you was just jamming all the way. The thing that

1080
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 3: shit was hard. Shout out to exhibit Exhibit is underrated

1081
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: as fuck, man. I think they exhibit and all them cats, man,

1082
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: we got a lot of underrated cats. Out of here. Man. Yeah,

1083
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 3: there's no decided to go to get good music.

1084
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: Man, see a lot of good music that came from

1085
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: the element I guess of what we call reality rap

1086
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: because it's not all about gangster shit because everybody wasn't

1087
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: claiming the neighborhood. So I got a lot of dudes

1088
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: who's underrated as far as you know, as far as

1089
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: this this list goes, it's it's been a lot of

1090
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: classic music that people have probably forgotten about, uh, And

1091
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm reminded every time, you know, we do this ship

1092
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: about uh, the greatness and where hip hop came from. Absolutely,

1093
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: I said I was a nigga listening to fucking I

1094
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: was a nigga listening to fucking from cool g rap

1095
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: to motherfucking mixed Master Spade. Man, I've and it's just

1096
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: so much good music and take it all and it's.

1097
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and it's never ending. Like you know, we're

1098
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 3: doing this listen to top fifty things. Again. These are

1099
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 3: just our opinions, right, but we I say they're somewhat

1100
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 3: subjective opinions. We're not up here just trying to force nothing.

1101
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: We got a voted system and y'all let us know

1102
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: what y'all think man in the comments, Man, y'all might

1103
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 3: tell us all listens full of y'all might tell us

1104
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 3: me full of shit.

1105
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: I believe y'all were one more boss deeper.

1106
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: Oh man, I forgot about that was hard man killed

1107
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: her off the bag.

1108
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 2: That shit about ten times all the way up here.

1109
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: Bad.

1110
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: I couldn't get enough of it, and we saying I

1111
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: got the five scales of trying to get the watts,

1112
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: but I'm stuck in ballwin here. She used to flow

1113
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: like a mother and that sample was hard to the

1114
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: first that that was my sample. Yeah, they sped it up, dud.

1115
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: That's the hood took me up to remix, man, that

1116
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: was all that man. Boss was my peoples.

1117
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: Man.

1118
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 3: I was in.

1119
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm in her video process of elimination.

1120
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1121
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: They came to LA and shot the video and hit

1122
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: me up. Niggas was always hitting me up to come

1123
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: of getting a video.

1124
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 3: Where is Boss still alive?

1125
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: That's the time I heard Boss. She was in Detroit

1126
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: on the radio. That was the last time I heard of.

1127
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 5: Her, and I heard she was having some serious hot Yeah.

1128
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: Because somebody is Because I heard she had got real sick,

1129
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 3: so shot out the boss Man if anybody else did

1130
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 3: know Boss, tell her to get at us. I would

1131
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: love to have her on the show. Man on the show.

1132
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: I would love to have Boss on the show.

1133
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 5: And the crazy thing is.

1134
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 4: When I got the album Boring Gangsters, and then I

1135
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 4: was listening to it and reading the credits and like work.

1136
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 4: She did a lot of stuff with Def Jeff, who's

1137
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 4: also very underrated and underpre.

1138
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 3: Dope a producer to as well as.

1139
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 4: Incredible and Eric Sermons. She had a very very excellent

1140
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 4: album and very unexpected, I guess would be another I.

1141
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,479
Speaker 3: Think what it was. I know some stuff that came

1142
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: out about her, like a lot of other people that

1143
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: oh she's not really against and no, I didn't give

1144
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 3: a fuck. She made dope ass music.

1145
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I moved. Her album is incredible.

1146
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 3: I don't think Stephen King really out there you know, shopping,

1147
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I don't think he really

1148
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 3: no serial killer, nothing like that. I think he just

1149
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: made really incredible horror movies.

1150
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 5: Right, he'd have more bodies than about anybody.

1151
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Man, Before we get out of here,

1152
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell y'all again, just one more update. Man.

1153
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: It said she had a major stroke and seizure in

1154
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. Oh wow, And in twenty twenty one a

1155
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: gofund me was set up to raise fifteen grand So ain't.

1156
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: They just said how our hip hop artist man like

1157
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: our people that was in the cultry, just get left hand.

1158
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: But what i've what i've I think I'm a union.

1159
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 3: I think I said this a couple of shows back.

1160
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 3: It's crazy how you can go work for one of

1161
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: these big major corporations right now, you know, just a

1162
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: regular worker general motors or hospital or whatever. You get

1163
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 3: medical right. You would think that when an artist signs

1164
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 3: to a major label or whatever, that in their contract

1165
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 3: they would stipulate they give me some of that fucking

1166
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 3: Universal or Sony health insurance because they have self assurance

1167
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 3: for the rest of the employees. The right.

1168
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: You better you got them from the motherfucker mailing the

1169
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: papers to the nigga, pushing the janitor ship, cleaning up

1170
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: the offices.

1171
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 3: You're really the motherfuckers, you know, providing the capital for

1172
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: that business there. Why would why you know, one of

1173
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 3: the most important employees. They should won't have you nice

1174
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 3: and healthy? That's a good point, you should. We would,

1175
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 3: we would have thought about that though. You give me

1176
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 3: I heard products you had that written into his agreement

1177
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 3: though for mob Deep, you know, the rest of Peace Pride,

1178
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 3: because you know he had sick of Seale. He had

1179
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: that written to they contract man, that they get health insurance.

1180
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be hard for them to do, though, Bro,

1181
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 3: you got it for everybody.

1182
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: Else in that mean But I guess you know as

1183
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: a as a young motherfucker, and you know a lot

1184
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: of us young signed on contracts and whatever. The last

1185
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: thing you're thinking about is, yeah, man, throw in my contract. Nigga,

1186
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: I get five years free health insurance and dental. Nigga,

1187
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: you ain't thinking about that like your thing is, Nigga,

1188
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 1: I need two fifty three hundred thousand.

1189
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 3: I need a million right now? Do you pay for

1190
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: your insurance? Rell?

1191
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1192
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 3: So you gotta pay, and I'm pretty sure that the

1193
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 3: premium is high as hell.

1194
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that would have been a hell of a

1195
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: You get me in your contract. H Okay, don't even trip.

1196
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: What y'all want to give me? Two fifty? Fuck that

1197
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: two fifty. Give me two twenty five and I want

1198
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: five year? How long is my contract? What y'all getting

1199
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: five albums? Okay, for the next five to seven years.

1200
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm want free health.

1201
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: Insurance because you know what, it allows you to do

1202
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: what it allows you to actually get cobra an event

1203
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 3: like let's say your you know, career ends or whatever.

1204
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 3: You can take that insurance that give you now give

1205
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 3: it a discounted rate of pretty much what they're paying

1206
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 3: for it, and you can continue to pay that premium yourself,

1207
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 3: which is gonna be a lot cheaper than if you

1208
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 3: would have winn in and got that on your own.

1209
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean, because what I just made you ten million

1210
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: fucking dollars, right, That's.

1211
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. They only gave you, yeah, yeah, percent

1212
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 3: of it anyway, throwing some health insurance for them.

1213
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: Like you said, y'all ain't finna give me when I'm

1214
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: supposed to get You know what I'm saying, giving me,

1215
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,440
Speaker 1: y'all giving me it should.

1216
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 3: Be fucked five years lifetime because they've already made it.

1217
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 3: It's not gonna cost them nothing to do that.

1218
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 5: Wow, a year after the contract's over.

1219
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 2: Oh what dog?

1220
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: Keep my ship for as long as you want to

1221
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: keep making so you trying what you're finish, Hold my ship,

1222
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: my publishing and all that shit for the next thirty years.

1223
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: I can't own my ship for the next thirty years. Okay,

1224
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: so far as long as it suld be. Because you're

1225
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: technically you can argue that's a hell of a case.

1226
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: You could argue that you're one of the I mean

1227
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: of the business. Now you out there doing this and

1228
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: that if you was a sales rep for him. Let's

1229
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: say you were the highest earning sales rep for that company, right,

1230
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: you so more CDs than the company anybody else, to

1231
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: all the change stores and everybody, they gonna make sure

1232
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: that motherfucker don't false center. I wonder if the I

1233
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: wonder if the big time artists do that. I wonder

1234
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: if the Beyonce's and the Taylor Swifts in the money.

1235
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 3: They got so much motherfucker money, I'm pretty sure get it.

1236
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: But still wouldn't you want them to fuck that bill?

1237
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, this shit, because let's think about it. Yeah,

1238
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm making a gang of money. But how much is

1239
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: you making?

1240
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 3: Right?

1241
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 2: How much is you making?

1242
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: So?

1243
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think on my new contract negotiations, I want

1244
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: you to pay for the next five to ten years

1245
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 1: of my health insurance. Take it out of whatever the

1246
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: fuck you getting already.

1247
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 3: Hell yeah. And on another note, I got a couple

1248
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 3: of other thing things where we go, Let's keep the

1249
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 3: homie crazy bowing up in prayers right now. Everybody know,

1250
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 3: you know your part was a part of the Digital

1251
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 3: Soap Bikes family for a long time and still family.

1252
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 3: You know, that's hometown right there, Crazy, We're praying for you, man.

1253
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 3: And Exhibit went in on specially.

1254
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 5: M I didn't see what I saw.

1255
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: I saw one of his comments, and I actually replied

1256
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: to Exhibit on one of his comments, and I said

1257
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: that not to go back on this ship, but I

1258
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: said that this lifestyle wasn't for everyone.

1259
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 3: Get me.

1260
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: A lot of people can't understand, you know, because let's

1261
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: face a niggas start game bang and was dumb, you know,

1262
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: and some of them still do. And we got a

1263
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: lot of that from when I was coming up and

1264
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 1: when I first started coming in the Rap gang. Uh,

1265
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: when we would venture out to different places and whatever.

1266
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,679
Speaker 1: People didn't understand the lifestyle of game banging.

1267
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 3: Well, it's what Exhibit said though. He said, Man, that's

1268
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 3: my family treat right there. I don't go out of

1269
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 3: my way to discourage people from expressing their opinions about

1270
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 3: hip hop, But fuck this shit special legs you out

1271
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 3: of pocket, don't make it hard for yourself. We're still active, bro.

1272
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's the comment I replied to Like

1273
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: I said, this lifestyle wasn't for everyone. This walk of

1274
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 1: life isn't for everybody. It's hard for niggas to understand.

1275
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: And then when you got a motherfucker who's in uh again,

1276
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: it's competition, you get me, it's competition. And for a

1277
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: nigga who feels like he is in a position to

1278
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: where he should be recognized or respected or in a

1279
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: bigger place, and then you get some niggas to come

1280
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: along and slap you off your pedestal. And now we

1281
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: don't even want to hear what you gotta say. These

1282
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: niggas is kicking real shit that I want a mother,

1283
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: I want to hear. So last it was, it was.

1284
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: It was one of them scenarios where I don't think

1285
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: a nigga thought before he spoke, you know what I'm saying.

1286
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: You get put in front of these cameras and you

1287
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: get asked questions. A lot of people aren't articulate, you know,

1288
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't intelligent, you know, and a

1289
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: lot of people in interviews they say shit that I'm

1290
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: probably thinking they would go back and look upon and

1291
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: be like, why the fuck did I say that? Or

1292
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: put myself in that position on the last note of that.

1293
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: You know, I've seen corrupting them and dazzing them. They

1294
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Speaker 1: got on a little stream with Special LD, and you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people were making the comment that

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Speaker 1: he was trying to backpedal because now.

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Speaker 2: It was I think he said that correct.

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Speaker 3: Was they were.

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Speaker 1: They were they were brainwashed by the record labels too

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Speaker 1: to portray this or to man that was easy and

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Speaker 1: I'm just up there making music. It wasn't, you know,

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Speaker 1: because I guess. I guess because he's been getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of flak. Now we're gonna put it on the

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Speaker 1: pressure of the record labels to push them to that narrative.

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Speaker 3: Well, one thing I want to say is that this

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Speaker 3: was America and that brother does have freedom of speak.

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Speaker 2: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: I don't think nobody mad at especially I'm not. I

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Speaker 3: don't think nobody, and shit, nobody. If somebody out there

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Speaker 3: thinking about putting their hands on that man and something,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's that he has the right to

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Speaker 3: have his opinion. You know what, I mean, he has

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Speaker 3: the right to have an opinion. We're supposed to and.

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Speaker 1: Slap a nigga mode because of your opinions. It's just that, uh,

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Speaker 1: we feel a little insulted by saying that our foundation

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Speaker 1: of hip hop is the destruction of and for him

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Speaker 1: to direct it at saying like your youth, your youth

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Speaker 1: and the youth in the state of youth hip hop

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Speaker 1: and what's happening today is because Nwa was allowed to

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Speaker 1: say fuck the police, or Nwa was allowed to say

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Speaker 1: I'm straight out of Compton. You know, that's just fucking

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Speaker 1: ludicrous and it sounds dumb. And you know, some niggas

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Speaker 1: need to educate themselves a little more on the differences

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Speaker 1: of of hip hop, like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Educate yourselves on the situations that a lot of us

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Speaker 1: West Coast artists had to climb through to even get

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Speaker 1: the respect that we get today as far as being

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Speaker 1: hip hop artist period, because they.

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Speaker 3: Didn't want to see in you give me.

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Speaker 4: The first time I ever remember hearing this shout out

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Speaker 4: to Willie D was on Do It Like a Geo,

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Speaker 4: which was nineteen eighty nine, when he said the East

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Speaker 4: coachs ain't playing my song.

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Speaker 5: I want to know what the hell's going on?

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Speaker 4: And it was bottom line is, in nineteen eighty nine,

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Speaker 4: it was already known that non New York rap was

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Speaker 4: look down upon.

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Speaker 5: It.

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Speaker 1: We ain't get no respect period. I mean I used

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Speaker 1: to hear you promo tours, and you know, Sony was

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Speaker 1: in New York. So every time it was time to

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Speaker 1: re up and do a new record, you had to

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Speaker 1: go to New York. And I thought, you know, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was really a waste of time going around

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Speaker 1: doing in stores and all of that, because I'd be like,

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Speaker 1: nobody's gonna buy music to drive by record in New York.

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Speaker 3: We're not New York artists. So line was around the

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Speaker 3: corner when you went up there, I thought it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I sold records in New York, but it

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Speaker 1: was totally different than when you went.

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Speaker 3: To a Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you go to warehouse in Chicago, it's three hundred

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Speaker 1: people out this music room. You go to the fucking

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Speaker 1: San Francisco up to Tower Records, it's a line around

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Speaker 1: the block in the corner.

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Speaker 2: It's a thousand people in line.

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Speaker 3: When we come strap dropped.

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Speaker 1: You go to Cleveland, Detroit, fucking Arizona. Every time you

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Speaker 1: get an inch store, it was a thousand people waiting.

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Speaker 3: West was a big market for you. Dog, West's huge

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Speaker 3: market because even to this day shot at the homely

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Speaker 3: Big Court. But he was telling me that, you know,

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Speaker 3: from the Holding Court podcast, right, he was telling me

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Speaker 3: he was like, Man, I bought eight CD man when

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Speaker 3: I was you know, a kid man, And I love

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Speaker 3: it because you know, he was asking about eight coming

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Speaker 3: on his show, right, and he was just telling me

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Speaker 3: how hoighly the high esteem that he held him up

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Speaker 3: there was, you know what I mean? And I try

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Speaker 3: to tell eight all the time because he ate is, mister,

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Speaker 3: I'm regular person, right, I'm like eight, You are never

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Speaker 3: just going to be a regular person. Some of these people,

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Speaker 3: these people grew up listening to you. Dog. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: hate that shit, but it is. It was dought. They

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Speaker 3: love your ass.

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Speaker 6: Dog.

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Speaker 3: I hate that shit, but it is what it is. Man,

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Speaker 3: Take up with the fucking territory for sure. Man, Thank

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Speaker 3: you guys for tuning in this week, man, and we

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Speaker 3: out of here. Make sure y'all go follow us at

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Speaker 3: the Gangster Chronicles podcast where you at.

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Speaker 1: Eight at eight oh eight eight oh eight, Man, y'all

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Speaker 1: know what it is eight oh eight on Instagram Book

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Speaker 1: eight Time to jail.

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Speaker 5: And Sworn Baker at Sworn Baker.

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Speaker 3: And make sure y'all go check eight has a really

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Speaker 3: not eight. I'm sucking up. Someone has a really dope show,

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Speaker 3: Unique Access. I was trying to throw you alive as Access.

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Speaker 5: Check it out on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: On YouTube Man really dope interviews and videos Man with

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Speaker 3: guys from Yesteryear and the guys if today is really

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Speaker 3: well around it, man, go check it out, please do,

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Speaker 3: and we out of here. Jill