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Speaker 1: Phi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone is a Jordan Romano and welcome to The Philly Show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Rubin Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd's Lucky brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the File Territory Network.

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Speaker 2: It's the Philly Show.

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Speaker 1: It's Thursday, December nineteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I hope everybody is doing well. Ruben, you're doing well? Right?

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Speaker 2: You got that.

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Speaker 3: I'm grooving, man, I'm grooming.

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Speaker 2: It's groovy, baby, groovy.

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Speaker 3: It's groovy.

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Speaker 2: Are you guys doing good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Jim, you look like you are thrilled. Look at you.

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Speaker 3: Look at that energy. You're on fire.

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Speaker 4: I'm having a cup of stress.

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Speaker 3: Are you having a cocktail?

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Speaker 4: No, I'm having a cup of stressed relief tea, Yogi

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Speaker 4: t Are you feeling stressed?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: But I actually I kind of like the herbal flavor

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Speaker 4: and the fumes or whatever you call them. The you know,

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Speaker 4: it's very soothing.

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Speaker 2: It is the holidays.

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Speaker 3: I like to shoot with bourbon.

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Speaker 4: I'm having a little herbal tea, no caffeine.

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Speaker 3: Well you're you're a better man than I.

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Speaker 4: But I'm always thrilled to be with you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dame, it's fun. It's fun. It's the it's

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Speaker 1: the holidays. Uh, baseball is still going on. Phillies don't

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Speaker 1: have much going on, but they will at some point.

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Speaker 1: So the other day on all of our social media channels,

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Speaker 1: almost all of them, I put it out there asking

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Speaker 1: for questions, questions from our viewers or listeners or fans,

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Speaker 1: Phillies fans.

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Speaker 2: We got a bunch. We got a bunch.

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Speaker 1: And they kind of focused on one thing, which is

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Speaker 1: what and the heck is going on with this team?

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Speaker 2: When are they going to do something? So let's start here.

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Speaker 2: Why can't we get a trade done?

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Speaker 1: It seems like we have good offers on these rumored

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Speaker 1: trades as from Team Montgomery ten on Instagram. You guys

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Speaker 1: have any feelings on why they can't get a trade done, Rubin,

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Speaker 1: you can speak to that better. They But I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've been wanting to make some trades in the past

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Speaker 1: and you just couldn't get it done. What's going on

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 3: I think that's probably a combination of things. I think

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Speaker 3: one of the common One of the things is that

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Speaker 3: you know, it's difficult to match up sometimes. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the beauty is always in the eye they beholder. And

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Speaker 3: but but I think that there's a bigger issue here

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Speaker 3: as far as trades are concerned. To me, in this

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Speaker 3: day and age, no GM wants to be hoodwinked. They're

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Speaker 3: extremely careful about like at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: they don't want to get beaten on a trade. And

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Speaker 3: it's there's an ego thing. They have to talk, they

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Speaker 3: have to you know, you know, they have to answer

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Speaker 3: to their bosses. There's a there's a social media aspect that, oh,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe they made that move, and why did

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Speaker 3: you make that move? That's ridiculous that guy that's too

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Speaker 3: good of a prospect. I mean, how do you give

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Speaker 3: that prospect package up for that guy? I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: everybody's got an opinion about it, and it's so far

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Speaker 3: out there as far as social media is concerned, that

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Speaker 3: it's gotten to the point of ridiculousness. I always believe

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Speaker 3: that you make a trade to try to be equitable

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Speaker 3: to both teams, and if you can do that, and

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Speaker 3: you can find a way to be equitable and get

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Speaker 3: a trade done that helps both teams, then you make

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Speaker 3: a trade. I mean, it's sort of simple as that,

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Speaker 3: and it's not about beating the other guy. It's not

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Speaker 3: trying to hoodwink anybody. It's about trying to do what's

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Speaker 3: best for your organization. And that's how I used to operate,

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Speaker 3: and so I would try to give talent for talent.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that there is a reluctance to

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Speaker 3: do something unless you feel like, unless you know there's

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Speaker 3: they're so highly coveted now the prospects, and most of

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Speaker 3: the prospects don't ever become anything. What's amazing is there's

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Speaker 3: very few prospects that ever really become great players, because

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of different things that are going

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Speaker 5: on right now, and part of them is one, you know,

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Speaker 3: And to the level of covet as far as prospects

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Speaker 3: of the matter is most of those damn prospects don't

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Speaker 3: ever get to the big leagues or make an impact, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's what the Phillies are facing in

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Speaker 4: my opinion, in terms of them not yet making a trade,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna say they probably still will before clear Water.

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Speaker 4: There's still winter left time to get things done. I

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Speaker 4: think they have a finite amount of trade capital because

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Speaker 4: they're Big League. Roster is very locked in in terms

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Speaker 4: going to be very protective and their core and the

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Speaker 4: Big League is getting older, so they're protective of their prospects,

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Speaker 4: their upper tier prospects, so they want to start moving

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Speaker 4: them in maybe as soon as next year. So the

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Speaker 4: pieces that they can actually move are limited. When you

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Speaker 4: have limited pieces, there's less that appeals to other teams,

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Speaker 4: and everything that might come back is expensive in terms

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Speaker 4: of financial commitment, and the Phillies have had such big

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Speaker 4: outlays in previous winters, with three hundred million dollars deals.

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Speaker 4: With the payroll starting to push up against the three

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Speaker 4: to zero one fourth luxury tax, it feels like the

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Speaker 4: payroll is tight. It feels like they want to keep

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Speaker 4: a handle on their upper tuner prospects. That creates the

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Speaker 4: limited amount of guys you're willing to trade, and there's

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Speaker 4: not a big appetite to take back a lot of money,

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Speaker 4: so that limits getting the right guy back. And I

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Speaker 4: think that's one of the reasons maybe we're seeing them,

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Speaker 4: we're seeing some of the inaction as they wait for

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Speaker 4: the right deal that fits all of those categories, you know,

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Speaker 4: from the prospect you have to give up or the

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Speaker 4: big league you have to give up to what you

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Speaker 4: have to take back. So they're really like, it feels

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Speaker 4: like nobody's told me this. We're just putting things together.

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Speaker 4: This is a Davin Roski talk. It feels like they

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Speaker 4: kind of walk amount of razor blade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of segues into this next question from

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Speaker 1: tigro Tony on X. How could the Phillies not be

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Speaker 1: involved or interested in a Cody Bellinger? Guy streks out

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Speaker 1: less one hundred times a year, he has power, high

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Speaker 1: does New York how do the Yankees get him for

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Speaker 1: gets left handed. Maybe they didn't want another left handed

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Speaker 1: Cubs also kicked in five million dollars, Cody Bellinger next

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Speaker 1: season is gonna make twenty seven and a half million dollars.

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Speaker 1: To me, that that might indicate that the payrolls payroll

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Speaker 1: is a big deal, you know. Like right now, Fangrafts

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Speaker 1: projects the Phillies payroll to be over to be around

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Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty nine million dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's over the third luxury time.

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Speaker 1: So you add on a Cody Bellinger and now you're

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars past the fourth luxury tax threshold right

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Speaker 1: about that, And now you're paying about fifty one million

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Speaker 1: dollars in penalties, you know, once you blow about ten

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Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that that's why they didn't want

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Speaker 1: Cody Belger. Again, maybe they didn't want the left that

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Speaker 2: Maybe they didn't like the player. Maybe they see a

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Speaker 2: guy who's two up and down. But when you see

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Speaker 2: the Yankees give up a kind.

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Speaker 1: Of a middle reliever swing guy type guy and get

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Speaker 1: five million dollars back as well.

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Speaker 1: Now, maybe maybe the payroll is a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a bigger deal than the Fiells are letting on.

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Speaker 2: Of course they're not going to say, yeah, we're not,

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Speaker 2: We're not. That's not that's a crippling issue for us.

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Speaker 3: I think it with a combination of things. I think

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Speaker 3: it was probably the money won and I think that too,

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Speaker 3: maybe that that outlay is not worth it for that player.

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Speaker 3: And I think you're absolutely right, Jim. I think he

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Speaker 3: hit it right on the head. I mean there's a

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of issues going on. They've probably thrown

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Speaker 3: out a ton of money. This team has to perform

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Speaker 3: because they put money into really good players, and really

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Speaker 3: good players do have to perform, especially when it's time

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Speaker 3: to perform, which is in the playoffs. We say have

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Speaker 3: not done as well as they have in you know,

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Speaker 3: in total over the last three years. So you'd like

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Speaker 3: to see them obviously performing at the right time. And

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Speaker 3: I think money's a real issue here. I think you're right, Todd.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's it. You can't call the Phillies cheap.

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Speaker 3: But but the well is not unending. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: and you have to hope that the guys that are

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Speaker 3: and all of those other guys are kirkerings. They have

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Speaker 3: of hope that happens. I mean, there's tweaks and there's

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Speaker 3: some things that are gonna do. I guarantee you they're

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Speaker 3: with the team that they have right now. That's not

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Speaker 3: gonna happen. I can I'll eat that shoe that you

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Speaker 3: broke out there, uh Jim if they go yeah, if

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Speaker 3: they if they actually do do that, I guarantee you

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Speaker 3: that they're going to make some moves. There's no question

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Speaker 3: you're right. I think listen, they don't want to have

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Speaker 3: to once they have to start replacing some of these guys,

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Speaker 3: the older guys that are expiring contracts to Cassianos of

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Speaker 3: the world, the JT. Real Muto's of the world. Once

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Speaker 3: and be those guys and to take over in a

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Speaker 3: cheap way and a young way and a controllable way.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the you know, the Aiden Millers

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Speaker 3: multiples of those those types of players, the Crawfords of

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Speaker 3: those guys because you just can't survive continuously buying and

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Speaker 3: buying and buying. It's just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna look, they're gonna have a good season because

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Speaker 4: they have good personnel, bowering catastrophic injuries, and you know,

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Speaker 4: if they're gonna get where they want to go. We

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Speaker 4: know where they want to go deep October Championship. They're

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Speaker 4: gonna get where they want to go. It ain't gonna

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Speaker 4: be with and I do think they're gonna make tweaks

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Speaker 4: before clear Water. I agree they're not gonna have the

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Speaker 4: it's not gonna be with that tweak or two. It's

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Speaker 4: That's why they're asking high. You know, he's like their

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Speaker 1: You talk about potential replacements, I mean Aeronauto doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: Maybe, and no respect to these players, but the people

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Speaker 1: Absolutely do you think I know what your answer is

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Speaker 2: Odds are he isn't signing your long term.

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Speaker 4: I you know what, when I saw that, I decided,

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Speaker 3: Jim yours right, smack dab on the nose. We've talked

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Speaker 4: You don't you think Scott's influence is gonna be a positive?

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Speaker 3: No question about it?

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Speaker 3: He's got his hold the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Ranger, that's the move.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why a lot of players go to Scott.

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Speaker 1: It's not just because he gives gets guys big paydays.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think I've talked to about this

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Speaker 1: I would let Scott Boris represent represent my son. You know,

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you guys one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Do not trade. Do not trade rangers for it. So

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Speaker 1: I can't believe the only thing they've got was Jordan Romano.

435
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Speaker 1: But I would be very, very surprised if that was

436
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Speaker 1: the case too.

437
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Speaker 3: I think, Dan, that's not a transitional year. I mean,

438
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: they're trying to win trophies, man, Yeah, trying to win trophies,

439
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: and they're going to do it. They're gonna do They're

440
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 3: gonna do what they need, what they feel they need

441
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: to do, within their budget and within their you know, reasoning,

442
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: as far as not not you know, giving up their future.

443
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: And so they're they've got a really good team. If

444
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Speaker 3: you look at the power rankings right now and you

445
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 3: started talking about the pundits and the people to make decisions,

446
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: this is still a top five team in baseball, Top

447
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 3: five team in baseball. Baby. As far as overall talent,

448
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 3: I'll take If you ask any GM on the planet,

449
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: would you take this team, and you would say yes,

450
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Speaker 3: I would absolutely take this team because it's a damn

451
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Speaker 3: good team. But they're going to have to perform and

452
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: it's not easy to win.

453
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have transition years. I'm sorry, I think

454
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Speaker 4: I stepped on your Roub. If you don't have transition

455
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 4: years when you have a three hundred million dollar pair roll.

456
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 4: Bryce Harper's head would pop off if they told them

457
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: we'll having a transition year. I know how bad you

458
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 4: want that World Series? Are they?

459
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,959
Speaker 3: And so when John Milton's.

460
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Speaker 4: They want to win a trophy, they're there. They got

461
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Speaker 4: some challenges, but the personnel is still you know, like

462
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Speaker 4: Dave den Brosky said, you gotta play well at the

463
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Speaker 4: right time, and.

464
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Speaker 3: They didn't. They haven't played well at the right time,

465
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 3: and they got to make some adjustments. They got to

466
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: make some adjustments in there.

467
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 4: Got to be better during the season. I mean, they've

468
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 4: got to be better during the season going into the playoffs.

469
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 4: They were a five hundred team after June eleventh. That

470
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 4: is that's that's troubling. But they're better than that. They're

471
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 4: better than that. They just they need to be more consistent,

472
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 4: maybe play with a little more urgency, and maybe have

473
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Speaker 4: a little more edge. I mean, I think sometimes and

474
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Speaker 4: I'm not I hope this' I think it's sometimes it's

475
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: good to play on the edge and when you get

476
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Speaker 4: that big lead, and they weren't on the edge all

477
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Speaker 4: the time, I think he's just been playing on the

478
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Speaker 4: edge and playing and being on edge. But being pushed

479
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 4: a little bit more next year might not be the

480
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: worst thing for them.

481
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Speaker 3: They might be might be better from behind than from ahead.

482
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Speaker 3: I mean in a lot of ways. I mean, you

483
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Speaker 3: look at it to twenty two and twenty three, they

484
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 3: sort of played from behind, right, underdogs, they were the

485
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: guys they got got out star lead, they got off

486
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 3: the great lead last year, and they kind of coached

487
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: it on in because nobody really pushed him. The team.

488
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: You know, Atlanta was hurt and the Mets weren't that great,

489
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: but they got better and they got some mojo going,

490
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: and that's the reason why they got beat in the

491
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 3: playoffs because they had a little bit more mojo working

492
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 3: and they made the adjustments that were necessary and the

493
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Speaker 3: Phillies didn't. Right.

494
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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: A couple of questions about free agents.

496
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Speaker 1: If you guys have a name bo ninety two ninety

497
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Speaker 1: two on Instagram, weight man stats on Instagram. Want to

498
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: know top free agent you think the Phillies will sign

499
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: at this point? Is there a name that you know

500
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying, is that it going to be

501
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: an Alex Bragman, But is there a guy that you know, Ruben,

502
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned Mark Hanna. That was the name I thought

503
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: maybe you could fill into that spot and left field.

504
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not going to get anybody excited, of course,

505
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: but no. But but you know, talking about free agents,

506
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: like does Tasker Hernandez Anthony sant Ander, you know, get

507
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: you guys excited?

508
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Does that either those two guys make sense?

509
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

510
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 4: I mean, but they're both looking for big paydays and

511
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 4: they both cost draft picks. So I just don't know.

512
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I'll say something here that it

513
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: won't excite people at all, and they'll be like, ah,

514
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: we're run it back. But what if a guy like

515
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: a Stevez stays out there for a while and we'll

516
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 4: take a one year deal, right, I'm jumping that. It

517
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 4: doesn't really get you excited, but.

518
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Speaker 3: That gives him some more depth. I'll take it. I mean,

519
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: they'll make them better.

520
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: And said, listen, if if if I wanted to pluck somebody.

521
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Speaker 3: That I thought was semi realistic, it'd be Tanner Scott.

522
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: M Tanner. Scott's still out there. Unless I've missed something,

523
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: He's still out there, and he's good looking for a

524
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: big payday. But who knows, maybe he ends up doing

525
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: a pillow contract that he doesn't get like that six

526
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: year deal or four year deal or five year deal,

527
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: whatever the hell he wants. I love pitching. I love

528
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: to err on the side of pitching. And if they

529
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 3: can't do anything with their left fielder and center fielder

530
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 3: and they have to live with those two guys or

531
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: live with some combination of those guys and add to pitching,

532
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: because pitching wins.

533
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: Right, you know.

534
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: And going back to the payroll stuff, maybe they and

535
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: again I'm not saying they were interested in Cody Bellinger,

536
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: but maybe they weren't interested in blowing past that fourth

537
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: luxury a tax for Cody Linger. But but maybe for

538
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: a right handed bat that they feel really comfortable about

539
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: that they could get in the trade or they could

540
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: get via free agency. Maybe for that player they go, Okay,

541
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: well we'll take this huge, huge penalty in taxes and

542
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: go for that player.

543
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: So it's not to say that they won't blow past

544
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: that night.

545
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: Well, the only guy would for me would be Bragnant.

546
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're really good at I mean that

547
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: that would be the guy for me, because he's such

548
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: because he fits so well with what they're trying to do.

549
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: I think that you know that that type of bitter

550
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: that side of the plate. You know, championship caliber player.

551
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: He's got rings, you know the whole nine yards. You know,

552
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: this is a baseball rat. This is you know, the

553
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: kind of player you won on your team. He fits

554
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: all those things. He doesn't necessarily fit the budget because

555
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: he's such a good player. I mean, the guy's going

556
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: to command over two hundred million dollars. It's as simple

557
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: as that. I don't think that they're.

558
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: Ready to do that. And you have a third baseman

559
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: who we don't know for sure is going to be moved.

560
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 4: I wonder if Bregman might go play second base in Boston.

561
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: I'd be a great call for them. I mean, he

562
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 3: could be a goal glover at second, short or third.

563
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: For me, I've watched him at shortstop for a long

564
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: time in LSU. I know what he can do. He

565
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: is a brilliant fielder. He'll make himself a great a

566
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: goal glover because that's who he is. Shoot. I mean,

567
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: in a perfect world, I signed the guy and put

568
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Speaker 3: him at second, move Turner to center field, and move

569
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: stotas short.

570
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: Let's go.

571
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 3: I believe listen, that's that's very unrealistic. But I mean,

572
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: I mean, if I can wait, if I could wave

573
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 3: a wand and do that, I think that would make

574
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: this team a brilliant team.

575
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: Probably, so Dave was asked again last week at the

576
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: winter meetings. Todd was there, I was there about moving Turner,

577
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: and you know, he was kind of absolute in October

578
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: when it came up. He did at this point say

579
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: you never say never, but also indicated they're not ready

580
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: to do it now. But I see that move to

581
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 4: left field happening at some point during his time in Philadelphia.

582
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: Another reason why I think, and I don't think a

583
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 4: Miller is necessarily untouchable, like in the right deal, depending

584
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 4: on the right opportunity where you might get back. But

585
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: I think chances of him being dealt are very very slim.

586
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: And you know, the the uncertainty on the left side

587
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: of the diamond possibly moving turn to the outfield some day,

588
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: not now, but someday, alec Bone possibly being traded, that

589
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 4: uncertainty on the left left side of the diamond. Even

590
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: if Poe was not traded, he's only two more years ago.

591
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: That uncertainty of the left side of the diamond is

592
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: why I think one of the reasons of being so

593
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: protective of the Miller.

594
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta keep that in mind. I mean, yeah,

595
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: Boone doesn't. You're right, Jim, but Boone doesn't get traded

596
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: two years from now he leaves.

597
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: Miller is the man.

598
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Aiden Miller's a guy, right, Yes, I agree that

599
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: it would have to be a very special player for

600
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: me to move Aiden Miller based off of everything everybody

601
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: who's been evaluating talent.

602
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: For decades has said about this guy. They think he's he.

603
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: Could be there, Alex Bragman, he could be there, Alex Bragman,

604
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: That's who I view him as. That would be my

605
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: comp if he becomes a player that the people think

606
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: that he can become, he could be that guy.

607
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: It reminds me of this story rub and you were

608
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: there in the front office years ago when I think

609
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: it was the A's were calling or they want to

610
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: Chase right for maybe Chase and Cole, but definitely chance

611
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: for who.

612
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: Veto for Zito?

613
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: Right?

614
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: It was Zito.

615
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: They wanted to choose Jason Madson, yep, yep, chasing Madson.

616
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: There you go, and man, that worked that well.

617
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: Not some of the some of the best trades. Some

618
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: of the best trades you make are the ones you don't.

619
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: Make exactly exactly.

620
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: And if you really and those people in the Phillies

621
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: front office really believe that guy is.

622
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: Special, then you want to hold on. Yeah, then you

623
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: want to hold.

624
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: On said best trades.

625
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: One.

626
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: You know, Ruben Madson was Ryan I'm sorry, Ryan Madson

627
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: was such and important. His his emergence and his ascension

628
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 4: was so important to that twenty and eighteen It was

629
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 4: like in August of two thousand and eight he became

630
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: an assassin and he such a difference maker, gave them

631
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 4: such another big weapon in that bullpen, such a huge

632
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: part of that championship team.

633
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: He went from becoming like being a fourth or fifth

634
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 3: starter to being an assassin in the bullpen. And you're

635
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: absolutely right, and he helped us win a world series.

636
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: Rubin, did you were you guys absolutely convinced Chase is

637
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: going to be a star player when that stuff was

638
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: going down. Yes, I mean like there.

639
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: Wasn't as well maybe not, you know, were you were

640
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure that this guy, Chase out Lee

641
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: was going to be a star player.

642
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 3: I mean, you can never be one hundred percent sure,

643
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: but you knew that you knew that this guy was

644
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: going to figure out. I remember having a discussion with

645
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: my dad about, you know, when we if you remember,

646
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: at one point, because we traded Scott Roland, we moved

647
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: him to third base that one year, and he played

648
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: third base in Leigh Valley Jumping. He didn't even play.

649
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: He never played in Reddick. He went from he went

650
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: from Clearwater to to Lehigh Excutiny was Scranton, went to Scranton.

651
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: We put him at third base in his first you know,

652
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 3: several weeks, he's made a ton of air throwing airs.

653
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: And I remember going telling my dad's and dad and

654
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: this guy played third base. Is he going to be

655
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: able to play defense in the big leagues? And he said, son, son,

656
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: don't you worry about Chase Sudley. He will be fine.

657
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: Just let him play. He'll be fine. If he needs

658
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: to play third base, he'll be fine. If he needs

659
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: to play second base, he'll be fine. And he's right

660
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: because he knew that Chase would do everything in his

661
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: power to be as good of a player as he

662
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: could possibly be wherever he played. And he was right

663
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: dead I'm not going to say it dead.

664
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 4: On dead nuts, dead nuts on.

665
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: And that's the thing about Aden Miller.

666
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: If these guys in the Phillies front office think he

667
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: is going to be a Chase Ully type or a

668
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: Alex Brigman type, you know, then I don't know if

669
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: I want to put him in a trade for Nolan

670
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Aernado or somebody who's been showing some signs of decline

671
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: over the past few years.

672
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: Amen, brother, And.

673
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: He's gonna make seven hundred or eight hundred thousand as

674
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 4: a rookie, you know, exactly right, And they need to

675
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 4: have that those types of salaries start starting to mix

676
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: in and give you payroll.

677
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: Balance, right right, Ruben, you got to touch on this one.

678
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a follow up. Is

679
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: a Mike Trout trade possible? That's Ryan Davis thirty eight

680
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: on Instagram. If so, what would that trade look like?

681
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: That would look like the Angels giving the Phillies every

682
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: amount I don't know what, you know, three hundred millions

683
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: dollars still would have to get Phillies would have to

684
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 3: get two hundred of the two hundred million, two hundred

685
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 3: and twenty million back to get a make a trade

686
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: with them. That's a simple thing. I would do that, right,

687
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: I would do that because the players not available. He's

688
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 3: hurt all the time, and you can't take that risk.

689
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: Not that those at those numbers, everybody wants to fall in.

690
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: And I listen, Mike Trout is a Hall of Famer,

691
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: amazing player. He's hurt, he doesn't play. If they want

692
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: to pay him all the way down and we dump

693
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: like a like a decent prospect on him, I'm in sure.

694
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: Otherwise I'm out right.

695
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: And that's some people from there.

696
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 3: It's not Gonnapp.

697
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: I think it was maybe even last spring, somebody kicked

698
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: on the idea of a Trout trade. And so the

699
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: guy's hurt all the time, all the time.

700
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: Love him, but he's if he's own two hundred and

701
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars or two hundred and twenty million dollars,

702
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: if they pay one hundred and ninety of it, and

703
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 3: we have to pay thirty of it for like the

704
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: next I don't know, was it four or five years?

705
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 3: More years, then I'm in. Otherwise I'm out right.

706
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: Okay, right, all right, last question, and this is totally unrelated.

707
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: I feel like we've covered all covered all the bases

708
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: of what's been going on, and I've been going on

709
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: with the Phillies. Uh not directly a Phillies question. Boy,

710
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: it was your best baseball Montreal memory? And Jim cannot

711
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: say the smoke to me. This is from Philly, the

712
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: Phillies fan in Montreal on X.

713
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: We have month.

714
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: We have Phillies fans in Montreal. That's awesome.

715
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Phillis fans in Montreal.

716
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: I love that. If I can give you one of

717
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: my memories, I got a chance. I think it was

718
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety three when we were making a run

719
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: there at the end, Peter and Kabilia went down to

720
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: a knee injury. I think just before the series. It

721
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: was a big series and we had to take We

722
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: had to win at least one or two of those games.

723
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: I think it was. Was it a four I can't

724
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 3: remember whether it's a four game series or a three

725
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: game series. Demanded towards the end of the year that year,

726
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 3: and I got to play, and I was the other platoon,

727
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 3: right handed hitting platoon and left field other than Milt Thompson.

728
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: So Milt Thompson and then pe d and Kabilia were

729
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: the platoon. But Pete went down, so I was the

730
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: right handed bat, I drove in a run, I scored

731
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: another run. I think I stole a base or something.

732
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: And we ended up winning two of those three games

733
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: or whatever we needed to win to finish off the

734
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: division because they were creeping on us. And that was

735
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: one of my best memories. I mean, Montreal is phenomenal city.

736
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: I love it. There's a lot of things, very very

737
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: international type of a city, but but for me, baseball wise,

738
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: that was one of my favorite memories.

739
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome, great, one of my favorite cities. I

740
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: just to go up there as a kid on like

741
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: our youth hockey program would have like we've gone a

742
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 4: long weekend and stay with the family and then they'd

743
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: come there down to our place the next year. So

744
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: I love that town. I have a regret about Montreal.

745
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 4: I never saw a game at the Montreal Forum. That's

746
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: a big regret, but I did. You know, I love

747
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 4: sports history, and you know, when the when the Expos

748
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 4: came in, they played at that Jarry Park, which is

749
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 4: like a little old minor league stadium that they added

750
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 4: on to and it's it's a stadium ballpark in the

751
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,240
Speaker 4: middle of like a municipal park. His basketball courts swimming pool,

752
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 4: walking trails and is a baseball field, baseball stadium. They

753
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: made it bigger. So I remember when, you know, watched

754
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: seeing it on TV as a kid. So I remember

755
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: once taking the train up there Someway with Paul Hagen

756
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: and I went up and took the subway up to

757
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: where Jerry Park is and converted into a tennis stadium now,

758
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: But that swimming pool beyond right field is still there

759
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: where Stargell hit that bomb into And it was really

760
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 4: cool to see, you know this. They played Major League

761
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 4: baseball in this place. It's in the middle of her neighborhood,

762
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: and it was, you know, really cool. But so many

763
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: great memories. And of course, you know, you know, you

764
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: go out to cover a game and then you go

765
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 4: to Ziggy's, which was a great fun place on Crescent Street.

766
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: I may have saw the sun come up there once

767
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: or twice.

768
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: Did you go? Do you ever go to any other

769
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: establishments or just Jiggys?

770
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: It's just Ziggy's. I stayed out of those ones that

771
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: I think you might be referring to.

772
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: Ziggy is the one Jim where you go down the

773
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: steps into the basement. It's a basement bar.

774
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And the umpires. The umpires would come there

775
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: and it was a lot of fun at Ziggy's another time.

776
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 4: This is a great story. I don't know if I should.

777
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: I might have told it already. But once you know

778
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 4: how like John Vukovic used to torment Chris Wheeler.

779
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: I know this story, go for it.

780
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: We were sitting in for Gosi's office before the game

781
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: doing our pregame interview and Bukovich walked in and he

782
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: grabbed Chris Wheeler's loafer shoe and he took it. And

783
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: the clubhouse in Montfreal had this duct work. It was

784
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: a high ceiling with ductwork exposed. Ceiling throws wheeler shoe

785
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: up on the duct work. It's like eighteen feet high.

786
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 4: You can't kill on it, and the we had to

787
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: call maintenance to come down with the humongous ladder.

788
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: He's trying to go in the air.

789
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get out of here. I gotta get up

790
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: to the press spink. You can go. He's walking around

791
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: with one shoe. Was very memorable.

792
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: Montreal is a great place. I would be awesome if

793
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: they've got baseball back.

794
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 4: Well, it's your favorite memory. I covered the last game there.

795
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: I had to go cover that game the night they left.

796
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: That was that was weird. Yeah, your favorite memory, don't

797
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: smoke me because we used to eat a lot of that.

798
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: We did, Yeah, we did, you know. My my my

799
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: memory of Montreal.

800
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: I've said this before, like one of my favorite parts

801
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: of the day about being on the beat is kind

802
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: of like walking into the ballpark every day with like

803
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 1: the game day, guys are just getting going.

804
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: You hear guys taking early VP.

805
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: So I always love that walk up from the subway

806
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: or the metro, whatever you call it, into the ballpark,

807
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: going up to the press box. That place was so

808
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: dingy and beat up by the end, but it had

809
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: such character to it. So I really loved this. I

810
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: sound strange because I love being in that ballpark, even

811
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: though I remember that last year at Olympic Stadium they

812
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: had the clubhouse floor was linoleum and it was so

813
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: beat up it started to kind of bubble over and

814
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: it was probably so.

815
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: You would remember this, so you would would walk in

816
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: the clubhouse.

817
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: And also stepping like you kind of sink down, was like,

818
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: oh crap, there's a bubble bout eight inch tigh in

819
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: the middle of this linoleum floor. So I just remember

820
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: kind of that charming retro character of it. And the

821
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: thing though that really sticks out for me is that

822
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: was the first place where I covered a post game

823
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: massive blow up by the manager that was Larry Boat.

824
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: In two thousand and four, the Phillies lost I think

825
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: like eight or nine.

826
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: In a row.

827
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: That was the trip that was the team meeting trip

828
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: where the Phillies had lost eight or nine in a row.

829
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: And afterward we're outside the clubhouse and you could just

830
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: hear Larry, Oh, I'm just going baalistic on the players,

831
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: and so then it ends we come in and somebody

832
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: on the whoever was on the PR trip, but Philly's

833
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 1: PR at the time. I told Larry that they heard

834
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: everything that happened outside the door, and so we we

835
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: tried to ask Larry some questions, but I said, I

836
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: the only thing I will say is I'm disappointed that

837
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: we lost this game or whatever the quote was. And

838
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: then you went around to the club to the players

839
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse, and I remember talking to Mike, like, Mike,

840
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: what was you know, what was going on? He kind

841
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: of and they kind of gave me the eyes, you know,

842
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to I think it was Jim

843
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: Tomey or somebody else that played in that game.

844
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: They go, you heard that, Oh yeah, we heard it.

845
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: We heard it.

846
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we heard it.

847
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: So that's you know, that was a that's definitely a

848
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: memory that because that was the first real big time

849
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: post game manager tirade that I had to cover and

850
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: write it.

851
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 4: I remember, Todd, I remember your story. Yeah, I remember

852
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: it because I was I wasn't up to I wasn't

853
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: on the strip, but I was meeting the team in

854
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: New York the next day. They were flying down to

855
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 4: New York Shea Stadium. Yeah, And it continued that weekend,

856
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: the drama anyway. But I remember your story in the

857
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 4: Inquirer that day. I remember your lead. You remember your lead.

858
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: I think it was like the tick tick tick boom because.

859
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: Larry it was great. It was tick tick boom, something

860
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: like kick boom.

861
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Larry was You could tell Larry was getting

862
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: frustrated and it was coming to a head at some point.

863
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: And they lost that last game in Montreal. I can't

864
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: remember who was pitching for the Expos that day, but

865
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: it was a bad loss.

866
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, I remember one.

867
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: I do remember one one, Quickie, I had to blow

868
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: up with a writer one time because we had gone

869
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: That was the first I think it was the first

870
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 3: series after the spring training and we were trying to shine.

871
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: We tried to get Oral Hershey and we had him.

872
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: We we were going to overpay him, and we were

873
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: going to sign him and we were going to bring

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00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: him in because we needed another, you know, a veteran

875
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: arm maybe a fourth or fifth starter. And we thought

876
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: we had him. And he ended up going to Cleveland

877
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: or he went No, no, he had cland No, he

878
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: didn't go to Cleveland. He went to He didn't go

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00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 3: to Cleveland, went to the Giants.

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00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: I think I went to Cleveland because I remember talking

881
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: to him because.

882
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: I played with him. I played with him in Cleveland.

883
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 4: He went back to Cleveland, went back to Cleveland because

884
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 4: they were still a winter haven. And I I want

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00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 4: to talk about why he didn't pick the Phillies.

886
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: And it was not and it and and it was

887
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 3: I'm not going to name the writer. He was a

888
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 3: writer that kind of rought us the wrong way sometimes.

889
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: But I remember him writing the Phillies being cheap another

890
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: reason why the Phillies didn't get a player, because the

891
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: Phillies were being cheap and I blew up on this guy,

892
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: like nobody's business man. I couldn't handle it because the

893
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 3: reality of it was, we were paying him more money.

894
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: We offered him like a lot more money, don't know,

895
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: it was like fifty percent more money. And he decided

896
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: to go to Cleveland because he felt like Cleveland was

897
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 3: like a better chance for him to win or whatever.

898
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 4: That was exactly what it was.

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00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: And so, and you know, it had nothing to do

900
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: with money. He just wanted to go to a different team.

901
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 3: It was one of those rare instances where it wasn't

902
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: about the money, it was really about trying to win again.

903
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 3: And and when he wrote that, and I was like, dude,

904
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: we're not lying to you, I said, I said, we

905
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: we literally offered him more money, and that we could

906
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: have offered him a billion dollars and he probably.

907
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 2: Wouldn't have freaking gone to the Prince.

908
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: And I just remember having that, I mean a serious

909
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: shouting match, and it was echoing, and thankfully I was

910
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: in a different I think it was in a press level,

911
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: but it was far away. I don't know if anybody

912
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: knew about it, but that was one of my big

913
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: blow ups as an assistant GM. I was defending the flag.

914
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: That's good, man, that's good. Defend defend the flag.

915
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: I think I know who that guy might have been.

916
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I think you all know who we are.

917
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: I'm sure you had a little a little pent up.

918
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: It's probably a lot, not just a little.

919
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: Ah, that's great, man.

920
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 3: He was not as professional as you guys were.

921
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: We are the we're utmost professionals to leave that twenty

922
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: four seven. Yeah, well this is thanks to everybody that

923
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: sent in these questions we had. We had a we

924
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: had a few more, but they kind of covered We

925
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: covered all the basics right mentioned their names.

926
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: Give them a plug. You know, people like to see

927
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: their names in the newspaper.

928
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: What would your off season plan be from here?

929
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: See tossi too on Instagram, you know, create your ideal

930
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: off season plan roster you Colin Schmid, we kind of

931
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: got into some.

932
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 2: Of that stuff.

933
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 3: You know.

934
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: I think they're going to go out and get a

935
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: left fielders, you.

936
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: Know, and they got to get a fifth starter, man,

937
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: they got to get another army to compete.

938
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: Fifth starters aren't going to sign right now, right, I

939
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: mean they're no, that's like the Spencer Turnbull type thing.

940
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 4: Late.

941
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: I think Spencer Turnbull was on Super Bowl Sunday or

942
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: that when that news broke. So you know, think think

943
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: early February, late January for that.

944
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 3: Is Spencer's turbul still out there.

945
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: Spencer Turnbull is still out there. Yeah, yeah, so there

946
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: you go. Maybe you bring him back. Maybe you get

947
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: Carlos the Stevez on a one.

948
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: Years damn good for the first couple of months.

949
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 4: That before he blew up.

950
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: You know, then they never know. Yeah, you never know,

951
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: you never know.

952
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Still still some off season ago, like you guys, Yeah,

953
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: you know.

954
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 4: You say, this was a fun podcast and a lengthy one.

955
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it is lengthy.

956
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 3: Let's wrap.

957
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: Let's wrap this bad boy up. All right, guys, We'll

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00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: see you next week.

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00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: Smell related boys, Smell Yeah.

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