1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: On today's episode of the Game Day Live Preview podcast, 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: we talked Philadelphia and how Washington can get a dub 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: up in Philly with those Bleacher creatures up there yelling 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: at him. Man, it's gonna be a great time. Great 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: defense up in Philly. Offense got some struggles. I think 6 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Washington can take advantage of it. And then fun things 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: to watch. Bobby Wagner is five tackles away from two thousand. 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Man, that's rarefied air. It all starts right now. 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Command Center Game Day Live Preview podcasts. Logan, 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: it's the last one of the year. I know, made 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: it all the way here. 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: This last one of the year, you know, and it's 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: been kind of an up and down year obviously, and 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: it's but it's good. 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: It's good. This show's always fun. 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: Well, this is a fun one to talk about the 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. They're always fun to talk about with this 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: group that they have out there. So I'm Jason JOHNSONM 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: just a guy. I'm just a producer of the show. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: So I'm kind of just going to steer the chip 21 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: for our ten year NFL That one of the smartest 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: guys I know, Logan Paulsen also a really good friend 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: of mine. 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we shared a piece of cake once. 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: I think we did share a piece of cake once. 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: And we've shared a Christmas gifts before, right that. So yeah, 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: I just want everyone to know how good of a 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: friend of you are of mine. 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: Everyone should just know that. 30 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: But really, what I want to do is I want 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: to pick your brain on Philadelphia. By the time our 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: fans have been listening to this or watching Commander's fans, 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: they've heard almost everything you can possibly hear about with 34 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: Philadelphia with all the content that's out on the Commander's 35 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: YouTube page and podcast channels. But logan, let's tap in 36 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: one final time. Basically, what I'm going to ask you 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: is can we win this game? How can we win 38 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: this game? So let's start this way, right, Let's start 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: with the Eagles offense because it feels like this is 40 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: the area where they kind of beat themselves. Talk to 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: me a little bit about how they're struggling and then 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 3: how the command can take advantage of what is going 43 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: on with Jalen Hurts in that offense. 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the thing with Philly's offense 45 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: is they're just not clean. And what I mean by 46 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: that is like we just we just did the film 47 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Breakdown Show, and you know, like they're having a hard 48 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: time getting runs targeted. Right, they're having a hard time 49 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: getting hats on hats, which is a huge part of 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: just having successful you know, running the football on first down. 51 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: Their philosophy, they have a lot of gun runs. They're 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: very simplistic in that way. So again, their rushing efficiency 53 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: on first down is way way down. Right, they have 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: huge tails like back off sef left, back offset left, 55 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna run to the right, back off set right, 56 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna run left. And so again, like there are 57 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: certain teams that are successful with that, but usually they 58 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: have this really dynamic pass game to compliment it. And 59 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: with Philly, like that thing's kind of a mess, right. 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: I think there are times when you're watching concepts and 61 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, like this is this is really good. 62 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: There's a great opportunity here to get the football down 63 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: the field and put this person in a good position 64 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: to be successful. Or they've created space and either jail 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and Hurts doesn't get there, there's a pressure given up, 66 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: or like a receiver apparently runs the wrong route. It's 67 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: just offensively it's just it's. 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: Tough to watch. 69 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: It's just not like so there's a certain offensive that 70 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: you watch, like for example, when you watch Chicago, when 71 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: you watch San Francisco this year, especially when you watch. 72 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: The La Rams, and they just. 73 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: Sharp, runs are targeted well, combinations are clean. In the 74 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: run game, there's hats on hats. It's not always physically 75 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: very clean. They're not dominant, but at least you can 76 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: kind of see the vision for the run Philly this 77 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: year specifically, it's kind of gotten away from stuff they 78 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: were good at last year, new offensive coordinator, and then 79 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: the past game again, Jalen Hurts is going to take 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: a lot of heat, and I think he deserves a 81 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: lot of responsibility for that. But there's also other elements 82 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: of it that I think are really really really make 83 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: it hard for them to be successful. 84 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: Well, let's focus in a little bit on what you 85 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: said about their run targeting and whatnot, because when we 86 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: have played them in recent history, yea, Saquon has had 87 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: days against us pretty good days. Now a little bit 88 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: of context, and maybe this is the fan of me 89 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: speaking the Washington Commanders fan. 90 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: Most if you just look at the. 91 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: Stats for Barkley, it looks like, oh man, big day 92 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: against the Commander, Right, most of that tends to happen 93 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: when the game's kind of out of a little bit 94 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: out of reach already. He'll rip off a big seventy yarder, 95 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: a sixty yarder. That tends to happen in the late 96 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: third fourth quarter games out of reach. Before then he 97 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: gets bottled up, especially in the first half against US 98 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: again just in recent memory. Now that being said, what 99 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: can we do to make sure that that doesn't happen 100 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: in the second half and we actually keep him down 101 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: there's no big runs coming in. Is there something that 102 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: Philly is doing that we can take advantage. 103 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: Of in terms of running the football? As of running 104 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: the football? Yeah, So I think it's the tendencies that 105 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: they have. 106 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: And when you, I think you bring up a great point, 107 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Like I actually think they did a pretty good job 108 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: the Commander's defense last time they played, so it was 109 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: that two weeks ago in terms of kind of keeping 110 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Saquon bottled up, and again he has the one explosive 111 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: run I think everyone's going to remember. And I think 112 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: that's the dangerous element of Saquan is like you can 113 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: keep him bottled up for three and a half quarters. 114 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: But he's going to hit that home run at some 115 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: point if you give him the opportunity. So what I 116 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: would say is like, let's just play good offensive football. 117 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: Let's possess the football, let's put pressure on them, let's 118 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: force them to throw the football. And again, that's where 119 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: to me, this Eagles team is such a defensive led group. 120 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: Like they the way they call games, the way they 121 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: execute an offense, it seems like the whole time they're 122 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: thinking about, oh, our defense is going to bail us out, 123 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: and nine out of ten times, the defense at least 124 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: over the last probably six or seven weeks, has done that. 125 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: And so what I'd say with regards to Saquan is like, 126 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: let's hold our gap, Let's play with good pad level 127 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: at the defensive tackle position. Let's set good edges in 128 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: the run game. Let's be disciplined with our fits at 129 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: the second level. And I think this team, because again 130 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: like the targeting issues that they've had, are going to 131 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: let you run free to the football at some point. 132 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: So let's just make sure when we get there, let's 133 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: tackle the runner at a high level, and let's get 134 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: multiple hats of the football. Let's pursue and just play 135 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: good defense. And again there's nothing schematically that they're. 136 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: Going to do. 137 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: Like so when you play like when we played Dallas, 138 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: for example, when the Commanders played Dallas, Dallas does stuff 139 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: in the run game that is challenging. 140 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: The challenges run fits. 141 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: They use a fullback, they use multiple tight ends, they 142 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: kind of they shift strength of motional lot. Those things 143 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: are tough to deal with Philly. It's not the same 144 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: thing in terms of dynamic, well designed, well schemed run stuff. 145 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: So just own your gap, own your fit, let's get 146 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: downhill and let's tackle well. And that's what I'd say there, all. 147 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: Right, Now, how do we stop their dynamic pass catchers? 148 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: Last time we played them we did decently. Yeah, right, 149 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: I would say, don't you think so? No, I think so. 150 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: So how do we build on that? So? 151 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing with these pass catchers is 152 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: like they kind of stop themselves, quite honestly, and a 153 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: little bit of its scheme guys not being on the 154 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: same page from like a route concept standpoint. I think 155 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and aj Brown not being on the same 156 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: page as big element Like obviously they will hit an 157 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: explosive play like they're you know, one of one of 158 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: the best receivers in football obviously in AJ Brown and 159 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith, and Fred brought this up on the Command 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Center podcast. I think it's a great point. Like Davonte 161 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: Smith is more of a true separator, and I think 162 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: he gets more of the target share than AJ Brown 163 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: because Jalen Hurts, I don't think trusts AJ Brown to 164 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: consistently win in fifty to fifty situations, or least that's 165 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: what it looks like to my eye, So I would 166 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: concur with Fred's assessment there. So really with Jalen Hurts, 167 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: if you're able to make the picture muddy at all, 168 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: he'll hold the football. 169 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: And in years past. 170 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: That's been fine because Lane Johnson, Jordan, my lot of 171 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson, you know, Jason Kelsey playing center like it's 172 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: the best offensive line in football right now. They I 173 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: think that's still a very good group talent wise, Like Jordan, 174 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: a lot of Eric Dickerson are still there. Fred Johnson's 175 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: been playing a lot. He's their kind of backup swing 176 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: player who I think actually will probably end up getting 177 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: like a big contract here, kind of moving into as 178 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: like a swing guy somewhere, but not lane Johnson, and 179 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: so I think that that group has somewhat exacerbated some 180 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: of the issues that Hurts has as a quarterback. And 181 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: I know, like this is one of those things that 182 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: sort of talk about, like Hurts is not a perfect player, right, 183 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: and one of the things that he does do is 184 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: he's got to see the throw open to make the throw. 185 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't throw the spots. 186 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't throw the spots. And he will always kind 187 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: of escape to his right if he feels pressure. And 188 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: so like there's been a couple of times and a 189 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: couple of clips that I've shown you where he's escaping 190 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: to for no reason, like just stay in the pocket, 191 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: play quarterback, throw the football, and he just there are 192 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: times where he doesn't do that. And I think that again, 193 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: if you can get him uncomfortable in the pocket, you 194 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: can get him to vacate. If you can make the 195 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: look a little bit cloudy, and I'm not talking like 196 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: very cloudy, just a little bit cloudy, he's not going 197 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: to throw the ball. And so that's where you see 198 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: these games where he doesn't complete a pass in the 199 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: second half or whatever it is is because all of 200 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: those all of his little foibles and quirks as a 201 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: player get exacerbated in those moments. 202 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: Well, they've been able to win get when he doesn't 203 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: complete or score points in the second half. That's pretty incredible. 204 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: It's the first time since nineteen seventy eight, seventy eight 205 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: that's happened or something like that where it too. ESPN 206 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: said that I didn't In fact, I wonder if like 207 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: we could hold him to try and do that again, 208 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: try and make it three and zho and how far back. 209 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: That would go probably the first time be pretty crazy. 210 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: Anyway, they're gonna beat themselves a little bit on offenses. 211 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: Kind of what you're saying, you think. 212 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they're gonna bring their own baggage. That's 213 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: kind of their mo right. 214 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: It's like like they're not like this, They're not a 215 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: perfect offense. Like last year, there was this like inevitability 216 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: to them, Like they were really sharp running the football, 217 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: the targets were good, they were really efficient on first 218 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: down run the football. Saquon Barkley was I think he 219 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: was the highest in the NFL yards before contact, and 220 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: he had a bunch of explosive runs. So they could 221 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: kind of live in this world of like high school 222 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: football right where it's like, we're gonna run, We're gonna run, 223 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna run, We're gonna stay on schedule. And then Saque, 224 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: we need, you know, five exposive plays to win this game. 225 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: Saque's gonna give us two, and then we're gonna have 226 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: to find three of them. 227 00:09:59,559 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: Offensive. 228 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: Right now, that paradigm has shifted a little bit, right, 229 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: They're a little bit less efficient running the ball. They're 230 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: not getting as many explosive plays, more falls on Jalen Hurts, 231 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: and the offense has struggled to accommodate that different structure, 232 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: I guess is what. 233 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Well, those wins still get talian on the j. 234 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: Kurtz's career. They do, and he has the defense to 235 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: thank for a lot of that. The Philadelphia Eagles defense, 236 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: looking you like to say, they're probably the best defense 237 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: right now going and maybe a couple of they're they're 238 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: up there, right, they're up there. So they have a 239 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: lot of talent, their screen, their scheme is great. Tell 240 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: us a little bit about their defense of what the 241 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: challenges are. 242 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they just present so many challenges. I 243 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: don't think they're as dynamic in the past. Rush as 244 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: they've been, but like just the way credit to Vic 245 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: Fangio man, Like that group is just super well coached, 246 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: Like very rarely do you see them not on the 247 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: same page. Like they're not going to give you like 248 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: you know that, you know, like that pitcher who just 249 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: lays in a fastball or a sinker that doesn't drop 250 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: or broken coverage. Yeah, like they're not. 251 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: Going to do that. 252 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: They're going to make you earn every blade of grass. 253 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: And the way they play their coverages, Like if you 254 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: like so one of the things offensive you want to do. 255 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: You want to get to three by one, right, you 256 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: want to put speed at number three. You want to 257 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: kind of put linebackers in tough coverage situations. You got 258 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: to have the So they say we're not going to 259 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: play that game. We're gonna flood that zone with five 260 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: dudes and they're gonna all have vision on the quarterback. 261 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: We're going to match this concept at a high level 262 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: because we're matching quarterback eyes and the passing concept. You know, 263 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: the passing strength is going to be dead and we're 264 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: gonna play man coverage on the backside with Quinnion Mitchell 265 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: who's been excellent at that and then we have Zach 266 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: Bond at the linebacker spot, who can cover any back 267 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL, So good luck. Like we're gonna basically 268 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: play five on three basketball, we're gonna win that. And 269 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: then our pass rush is good enough, again, maybe not 270 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: as dynamic as it was last year, but talented enough, 271 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: physical enough to create enough pressure that you're not gonna 272 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: be able to do what you want. 273 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: So it sounds like you're saying for the Commander's offense 274 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 3: to be successful, Terry's gonna have to have a big day. 275 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Because again, if you're in a one on one, 276 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: if you can get Terry in a one on one 277 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: with Quinia and Mitchell, and Terry has shown that he 278 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: can win those types of matchups, like, that's gonna be 279 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: an awesome day. And when you look back, actually at 280 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: the first matchup, I thought Cliff did a really good 281 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: job of coming up with plays and coming up with 282 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: protection plans that put us in a good spot. Like 283 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: there's that Big dig I talked about it with London 284 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: Fletcher on the Command Center show. The Big dig on 285 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: completed a trailing burks where you're you're you're basically stretching 286 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: zones with your fast receivers, then bringing your big you know, 287 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: trailing burks in behind and you know, great throat by Mariota. 288 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: It almost gets robbed because of how they play their 289 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: robber coverage. 290 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: It was a tight window throw, but great job. 291 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: And then they Cliff did a great job of getting 292 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: Terry one on one with ad Ni Mitchell or no 293 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: with their Dori Jackson. Dori Jackson on the backside, Quinnon 294 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: to the front side of their kind of match flood 295 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: coverage there and Terry wins that nine out of ten times, 296 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: and we're able to get an explosive play. So I 297 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: look at those kind of opportunities and Cliff obviously understands 298 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: what they're going to do. But to get those explosive plays, 299 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: protection has to be excellent and you have to have 300 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: enough speed to kind of really stretch the zones. And 301 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: usually again we just saw this when we watched the 302 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills game. The rush is good enough that they're 303 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: not going to let you stretch the zones the way 304 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: you need to stretch them. So that's where I'd say 305 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: like they're just very very solid, They're disciplined. They're very 306 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: disciplined pass rushers, which is so rare. In today's NFL, 307 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: people want to get sacks, their gap releasing. They're not 308 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: rushing as a foreman group. Philly ever since I've ever 309 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: since I played them, has always been that way, very 310 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: very disciplined. Pass rush coverage wise, they are very disciplined. 311 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: You know, you said, is are they the best defense 312 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL? I think they're close, right, they're probably 313 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: May maybe Seattle, maybe Minnesota just in terms of problems 314 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: for the offense. But it's just so hard to find 315 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: grass and find easy completions, and I think you need 316 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: to be a little bit patient, right. You can't like, 317 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: don't force throws, don't turn the football over because they're 318 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: going to make you earn everything. Defensively, what do. 319 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: You want to see from the Commanders in this game, 320 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: final game of the season. 321 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: That's a good question, man. I think what I want 322 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: to see is I want to see a competitive game. 323 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to see guys playing like it means something, 324 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: And it does mean something to a lot of these guys, right, 325 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Like a lot of these guys we've talked about this before, 326 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: are playing for the next year. 327 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: They're playing for deals out. 328 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: There, Yeah, playing for an opportunity to be in the NFL, 329 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: and so you know, this is the visual game, and 330 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons to kind of be thinking 331 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: about a week from now, going on vacation, getting out 332 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: of here. Like I was just talking to my wife 333 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: on the way in here about how like I was like, 334 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: do you remember the last weeks of the season, And 335 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: she was like yeah, And just like how you're trying 336 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: so hard to stay focused on the task at hand, 337 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: which you're just thinking about the relief of like not 338 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: having the pressure, not having the mental strain, the physical strain. 339 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: Of the season. 340 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: And it's only for these guys, it's only four days away, right, 341 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: And so how how if you're Dan Quinn, you're Bobby Wagner, 342 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: if you're some of the leaders on the team, how 343 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: do you keep the team locked in and just play 344 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: a physical, competitive, tough game against the team that is 345 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: said that they're playing for something. And I know we 346 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: can't like spoil them and get them out of the playoffs, 347 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: but they really want that two seed. Maybe win this 348 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: game and bump into the three and just put a 349 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: little bit of you know, put a little bit of 350 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: salt in the wound, a little bit going to the offseason. 351 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: That's kind of what I want to see is just physical, 352 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: tough commanders football competitive and again, can we put them 353 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: in a tough spot where they don't get what they want? 354 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: You know what I want to see? What do you 355 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: want to see? 356 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: I want to see history be made. Bobby Wagner is 357 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: only five tackles from two thousand, you'll join only Ray 358 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: Lewis and London Fletcher, so one to do it. Those 359 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: three guys obviously raising the Hall of Fame. Fletch should 360 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: be in the Hall of Fame. Bobby Wagner, we're on 361 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: already calling them a mister yellow Jacket. I just want 362 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: to see history be made, and like that'll be a 363 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 3: cool moment. And Bobby's had a great year yeah, and 364 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: two back to back years of a ship ton of tackles. 365 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it's cool, Like we do that 366 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: Game Plan show with Dan and hearing Dan talk about 367 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: how cool that would be for him. I always think 368 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: about coaches, you know, they are like these almanacs of football, 369 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: these these like you know, mess like these these these 370 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: storage units of football. They've seen so much ball compared 371 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: to the player, you know, players long a long careers, 372 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: ten years, right, coaching careers forty years and so for 373 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: a guy that's seen as much ball as him to 374 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: be so excited to understand how rarefied the air is like, I. 375 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: Can't think of anything else where. 376 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: There's only two people that have done it, you know 377 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like two people that are at the 378 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: precipice of that thing, and like like ballers, which is 379 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: another conversation we've talked about on the Command Center show 380 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: this week, Like how is one of those guys London 381 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Fletcher not in the Hall of Fame. It's a weird 382 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: deal anyway, But just to see how excited Dan got 383 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: talking about that stuff is cool and so like that 384 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: would be fantastic, Like, given the first half Bobby has 385 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: five tackles like and gets to like gets to be 386 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: appreciated for it is really really cool. Yeah, that would 387 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: be That would be awesome, awesome to watch. 388 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking forward the London's reaction to make sure 389 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: you can listen to year Bram and London on Big 390 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: one hundred the broadcast call of the game. I mean, 391 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: you would think Bobby's gonna get get this in Philly? 392 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: I sure, hope. 393 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: So, I mean he's so I think He's had ten 394 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: tackles the last three games, so like he this is 395 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: well within me. 396 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: I don't think he's had a game where he hasn't 397 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 3: had at least five tackles. 398 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so this seems like a given, and I think 399 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: the staff's aware of it. I think they're going to 400 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: do things to make sure that he gets that opportunity 401 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: taken care of because it would be so cool. Yeah, 402 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: like a defensive like you have a defensive head coach, 403 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: Like they get it, man, they get that. 404 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: This is like one of the coolest It's legacy building. 405 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: That's what you're watching. 406 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 3: You're watching a guy just build a legacy right in 407 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: front of you and be like, hey, I'm one of 408 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: only three to ever do it since this game has started. 409 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's cool, crazy, that'd be awesome. 410 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: And again, like the other thing you mentioned that, like 411 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: you're talking about old guys and what you're watching there, 412 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: like Bobby Hall of Famer, also the young guys. Can 413 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: they continue to build on the performances like Johnny Newton, 414 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: Like can he be a little bit? Can he continue 415 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: to build off that three sacks before? I don't expect 416 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: to have three sacks, but can he still be disruptive 417 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: and get kind of growing confidence. Ben Sill, it's been 418 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: playing better. Bill, it's had the huge couple of games 419 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: when he's been playing. And again, this is a tough 420 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: defense to run on. But like how like you say, 421 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: you've matured as a runner, this is a game. We're 422 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to show that maturity, right, show you how 423 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: you're seeing things, how you're patient, and how you're not 424 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: going to like, you know, kind of look for that 425 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: home run all the time. Like it's gonna be a 426 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: great opportunity for those guys. 427 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to all our fans. Thanks for listening 428 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: throughout this season. Thanks to Brian Colbert who hosts when 429 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: we have home games every DC Prime with Gary Clark, 430 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: be Mitch. We've had London on that show, Fletch on 431 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: that show, You on that show. But thanks for listening 432 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: throughout the season. Really appreciate it. Logan, you want the 433 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: smartest guys you know, and you're moving up there like 434 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 3: Bobby Wagner. You're breaking into the top three of my 435 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: best friends. You're right there. You're really close. 436 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: More than a work acquaintance. 437 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: That's good, all right, Thanks for listening, everybody,