1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lunge, 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 4 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and new He scrugs. Hey, everybody, 5 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: it is day Wednesday right here on the Players brought 6 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: to you by Hotels dot Com. We are in our 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Virtual Home Studios knew He scrugs. Longtime Cowboys 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: reported joined by two former Dallas Cowboys safeties, Barry Church 9 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: and Danny mccraig. Gentlemen, how are we doing on this 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: hunt day? Man? Doing good? Doing good? Man? The sun's out, 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: it's a little cold, but you know overall, you know 12 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a beautiful day, man, So nothing 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: can go wrong today, beautiful day. All right, okay, nothing 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: nothing can go wrong? All right, nostrada Okay, I feel you. 15 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: It's a good day for me too. Man. We made 16 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: it through halfway through another week. It's a blessing to 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: still be here. So I'm excited to get into what 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about today because I know the church 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: is gonna say something crazy make us laugh, and then 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to be so with some crazy rational now. 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: So I'm excited for today, Hey, December sixteenth, which means 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: we're getting closer and closer to the end of twenty twenty, 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: and I think we'll all be good if we can 24 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: get ahead and get to twenty twenty one. The Cowboys 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: will face the forty nine Ers on Sunday. That game 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: was supposed to be on NBC's Sunday Night Football, but 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: it got flexed out, so it is a noon football. 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers are favorite by three points. In this game. 29 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: The Cowboys could get some reinforcements back, Okay, so yeah, 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: one of the problems for the Cowboys has been that 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: defensive backfield whole year long. The man who leads the 32 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: team and interceptions, rookie Travad Digs could be back. Cheeto 33 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: Woozier's off COVID nineteen, so I expect Cheeto to play, 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: and Donovan Wilson, the safety he's back in practice, we 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: expect him to play. So Barry Church, your thoughts on 36 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: some reinforcements coming in here to deal with Brandon I 37 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Youth and those forty nine receivers. Man, you know what, hey, 38 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 1: we need all the help we can get. I mean, look, 39 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I was proud of what the secondary did last week 40 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, but like we all said, man, it 41 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: was the Bengals and they were down to Brandon Island 42 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: out there. But the secondary did fight and they scratched 43 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: and they showed some competitives out there. So I definitely 44 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: it was happy what I saw from them last week, 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: But we need the reinforcements now. If we get to 46 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: the individual players. If I'm Trayvon Day's personally, if I'm 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: Trayvon this, I'm not coming back. I'm saying, look, man, 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: this season is over with right now. I didn't put 49 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: good tape on there. Yes, I had some ups and downs. 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: I got beat but it's my rookie year and all 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: people keep talking about it just fighting his ability out there. 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: He leads the team interceptions. I think he's still leads 53 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: a team in pass deflections like four or five. So 54 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: if I'm him, I'm like, look, man, I had I 55 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: had a solid rookie season. I'm gonna go ahead and 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: rest up and get back and get ready for this 57 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: for this next upcoming season. Now, cheto Woozy. On the 58 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: other hand, he gotta come back. He has got to 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: come back, and he has got to put good tape 60 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: out there, because right now he's entering free agency with 61 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: some of the worst tape out of scene at a 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: corner position. When he came back from from his hamstring 63 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back, he looked like he was 64 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: running in sand. Out there. Everybody and their mom was 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: running past this kid, and he put on bad tape. Now, 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: going into free agency, that's the one thing you do 67 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: not want to do at all. You don't want to 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: put any other bad doubt and any other franchise out 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: there that hey, this kid might not be able to 70 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: cover or he's too slow to be out there and covering. 71 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: So for me, if I'm Cheeto, I had to come 72 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: out in these last three games, I gotta put good 73 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: tape out there or else, man, he might be looking 74 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: like a minimum contract type. Dude. Listen, listen. From the 75 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: player's perspective, sounds amazing, But from a coaching the perspective, 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: dig's gotta be out there. I would I probably wouldn't 77 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: put Cheeto out there. But you just pay Anthony Brown, 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: so you're pretty sure he's gonna be on the roster 79 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: next season. You need to see what your what your 80 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: defensive backfield looks like, what type of potential they have, 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: See if they've been able to learn anything, and see 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: if they can learn anything over these next three games. 83 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: You have to you have to you have to see 84 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: that to know like what you have going into the 85 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: next year. Cheeto, you know he's most likely out of here. 86 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: But me me as a GM and as a head coach, 87 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: I want to know what I have when I want 88 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: to see these guys make a little progression over the 89 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: last three weeks against some live actions. So these guys 90 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: need to be out there plan. Let me ask this question. 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: I'll start with you mcraye. If you're digs, do you 92 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: want to go against some other rookie receiver see Brandon 93 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: I first round wide receiver next week, Jalen rag or 94 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles comes into town. It does it become a 95 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: personal thing where you know, you seeing the guy in 96 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: your rookie class and you want to prove something to him. 97 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: And I asked that because I read the book Three 98 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Ring Circus, and whenever there was somebody in Kobe Bryant's 99 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: rookie class, he always wanted to prove a point to them. 100 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: So I'm just asking that question. Does that go through 101 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Dbe's minds at all? Well, listen, listen. Kobe is one 102 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: of a kind guys. So I won't go into too 103 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: Digs's mind and you know, and say who he really 104 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: wants to compete against. I'll tell you this, I'm pretty 105 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: sure that he wants to continue to get better as 106 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: we saw him do as the season progressed. Right, So, 107 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: we saw him fighting, then we saw him getting beat 108 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: a couple of times when we were impressed with how 109 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: he never gave up, and he made some hustle plays 110 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: and then they'll start turning into interceptions. So in his mind, 111 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: he's like, I was just starting to get better. I 112 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: was just starting to get rolling. I want to get 113 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: out there and finish this all, you know, and show 114 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: these guys what I can really do, hopefully finish the 115 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 1: season off with a few more interceptions in big plays. 116 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: So in his mind, I think, I think that's what 117 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: he's thinking. He's getting better and he wants to continue 118 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: to show that and lead leave off on a season 119 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: on a good note. Yeah, I guess I'm old, and 120 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: I guess you know I'm the vetting the in here 121 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: because I would have been if if I'm Tafon Days, 122 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: my thought press us would have been like, well, just 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: like what I told y'all earlier, hold on, man, I 124 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: had a solid I had a solid rookie campaign. Everybody's 125 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: kind of putting me on this pedal stores one of 126 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: the guys that can that can be a future star 127 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: out there. I'm not risking it by going out there 128 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: and putting any bad tape out there so y'all can 129 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: have me labeled like cho Woozier out here. There's just 130 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: no way that I would go out there and do that. 131 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: I would just rest into that next twenty twenty one year. 132 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: But hey, hey, that's just me. But I wouldn't as 133 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: a coach though. As a coach, get yeah, if I'm 134 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, I'm like, Yo, you gotta get out there. 135 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: I need you out there. I need everybody. I need 136 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: everybody on deck. I'm trying to save my job. I 137 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: need everybody on deck. So if I'm Mike Nolan, I'm 138 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: for sure telling him, hey, you gotta get out there. 139 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: But if I'm Diggs, nah Man, I'm chilling. I did 140 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: what I could these first these first couple of games, 141 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and relax. But to the point 142 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: that Nui talked about as far as DBS, I'm going 143 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: out there against rookies. My mindset when I was out 144 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: there as a safety, I was more I got to 145 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: outplay the other safety out there. So if we're going 146 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: against you know, the Seattle Seahawks when they had Earl 147 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and Cam Chancellor or another good safety out there, I 148 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't focus myself on, you know, being able 149 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: to outplay the offense. They would be. Let me go 150 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: out there and I'll play those all their safeties and 151 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: let them know, hey, I'm in the same realm a y'all. 152 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: Did I make just as much as an impact as 153 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: y'all did. So that was just my thought press us 154 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: going into the game against other safeties with timent. Well, 155 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: this rookie receiver, Brandon Ayu is the real deal. He's 156 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: a very good wide receiver with bad quarterback play, which 157 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: also is impressive to me because Nick Mullins and c. J. 158 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Bath struggled, and even Jimmy Garoppolo when he's been out 159 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: there this year, he struggled. And so I look at 160 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: that young man. I just say, wow, what could he 161 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: do if he had somebody that could actually get him 162 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: to football on a regular basis. He could have some 163 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: more chemistry with this rookie receiving class here has been 164 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: very impressive. And I feel bad for Jalen reagor kid 165 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: over at the Philadelphia because the media and the fans 166 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: are on him because they're like, why do we take you? 167 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Like we could have had to we had Brandon Ay. 168 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Philadelphia folks are cold, man. Look at everybody 169 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: else that came after you, but we're stuck. It wouldn't 170 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it wouldn't have helped the way Carson Winson 171 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: is playing. It don't matter who out there receiver, they're 172 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: not getting the ball to none of them. Dude. He 173 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: got he got some serviceable guys out there who could 174 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: make some plays. But the way we've seen Carson Wentz play, 175 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: he lost his job last two weeks ago and he's 176 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: still not going to be starting this week. So he 177 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to get anything done. With some 178 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: of those type receivers, they would have been wasted their 179 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: first year. So I'm glad my boy, Justin Jefferson did 180 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: not end up in phillyd a tremendous campaign with the 181 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings and how well did that work out. Stefan 182 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Diggs is in Buffalo. He's helped Josh Allen their NFC. 183 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: She said, AFC East champions. They're going to the playoffs. 184 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota unloaded the contract, got themselves a number one pick, 185 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: and then get they get George Jefferson, who looks like 186 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: he can do everything Diggs is done and does it 187 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: as a cheaper into That's one of the few times 188 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: when you look at the team and just say, man, 189 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: that was a really good move, because a lot of 190 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: times when you lose a guy like that do you 191 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: never get close to replacing himself. Minnesota ended up doing. Okay, there, Church, 192 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: you asked a question when we were bouncing our topics here, Um, 193 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: who are some defensive players? If you're the Cowboys, you 194 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: don't bring back who are free agents? So I'll let 195 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: you go first on this unless you want me to, 196 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: because I've got a name of a guy I would 197 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: bring back. Okay, an upcoming defense worth keeping, a guy 198 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: would bring the go ahead? Now he got it, Okay, 199 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: here it is Aldon Smith at thirty one years old. 200 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: He is second on the team in splash plays behind 201 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: Tank Lords with twenty four He's played six hundred and 202 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: fifty two snaps. Um for a guy who hadn't played 203 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: in five years, I thought he looked well and I'd 204 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: like to see what he could do next year coming 205 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: off this year, especially having a whole all season getting 206 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: his body ready. Um, but I start to look at 207 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: the numbers here. Okay, let's look at the money. You're 208 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: gonna have twenty four million dollars get off the cap. 209 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford's nine millions gone, Sean Lee's four point five 210 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: million is gone, Everson Griffins six million is gone, and 211 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy's four point five million dollars gonna said, twenty 212 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: four million dollars out the duel. If you give him 213 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: a two two three year contract maybe two, and you're 214 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: paying him Tyron Crawford's money nine million a year or 215 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: eight million a year, I have no problem with that. 216 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: Being on the other side of Tank Lawrens, especially not 217 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: knowing because the draft is in April. I got to 218 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: get this thing done, most likely in March. I would 219 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: like to keep someone in the building at defensive end, 220 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: and we could say Randy Gregory. But I'm not ready 221 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: to trust Randy Gregory one hundred percent there just yet. 222 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: So I would bring Alden Smith back. That's the free 223 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: agent defensive player I bring back. I got a couple 224 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: of questions on that. On that one one, you said 225 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: he has twenty four splash plays. What are we considering 226 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: splash plays here? That's a great question. I just ready 227 00:10:55,280 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: to stay frank it all day. That's good. I was 228 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: I was hoping you would ask that because I was 229 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: writing down about But but it looks good. It looks 230 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: like it's like I will rush win, right, you know, 231 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: it looks good. It looks good, and he's number two 232 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: behind tanks. Oh bad a little overall if we get look, 233 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm with bringing analytics Smith back. Analytics who who wait? Oh, 234 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: pro Football Focus is run back Collinsworth, right, he is 235 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: a part. But this I'm not sure that this came 236 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: for Pro Football Focus. So so I'm not sure. Okay, okay, okay, 237 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: all right, Well I'll say this. I'm with bringing Alden 238 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: Smith back on on a on a very teen friendly deal. 239 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: And I don't consider you know, tying Crawford's nine meal. 240 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's very team friendly, especially when 241 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: you got, like you said, Randy Gregory right there in 242 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: the wings, who these past couple of weeks has come 243 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: along and he's come along and he's starting to get 244 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: things rolling. And like you said, with Alden Smith getting 245 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: a full offseason, maybe he would become better. I'm sure 246 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: what Randy Gregory as well. If he get a full 247 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: I'll see him under his belt without anything going on. 248 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: I think he would be better as well. And I 249 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: think he would be that complimentary piece um to DeMarcus 250 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: Lawrence that we would need. So overall, I don't know. 251 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: Just the price would have to be right for me 252 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: to be able to bring back Aldon Smith. It had 253 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: to be extreme. Give me an I would say around 254 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: I was, I would say around four or five five 255 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: being the tops. I pay five a year for Aldon Smith. 256 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: Right now, he just has besides that scooping score, he 257 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: just he just doesn't hasn't done anything since the first 258 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And okay, now let's just put it 259 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: out here. You're saying give him Sean Lee money, and yes, 260 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: and look at okay, and Sean Lee this year as 261 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: a linebacker is barely played. I'm sorry if I'm Alden Smith. 262 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: I'll go to the market before I take four or five. 263 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean, as a pass running he should. And that's 264 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: what I think he'll end up doing. I think he'll 265 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: hit the market, and I think somebody will pay him 266 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: probably up upwards of ten million to go out there 267 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: and b a d N for them. I just don't 268 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit too expensive for a 269 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: guy like that, who I feel is probably a rotational 270 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: piece in a down cap. I mean, remember the CAP's 271 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: going down. Do you think he's gonna get ten millions 272 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: cap goes down? It somebo guy who's who's had his 273 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: past issues, who's had his past issue. Yea. I was 274 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: going to say, both of y'all, both of y'all allow 275 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: here acting like Randy Gregory and all the Smith have 276 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: really proved to y'all that for the next few years 277 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: they're going to be on a straight, narrow No, I'm 278 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: not giving all the Smith no three year deal for 279 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: the nine million dollars because he made it through one 280 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen season where we was on lockdown the entire time. No, 281 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: you can't just push them something to the side. It's 282 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: a it's a it's a good thing that he hasn't 283 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: that he hasn't gotten into any trouble this year, but 284 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: that is still a big thing hanging over him and 285 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory's head. Are they able to be out there 286 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: on the field? Can you depend on these guys to 287 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: stay available? Same thing I said about Tyren Smith. It's 288 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: nothing against how they play the game, but are they 289 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: going to be available? Do you trust all the Smith 290 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: enough to give him a three year deal and depend 291 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: on him to be your right defensive endor? Danny? I 292 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: can I give you a retort to that? Absolutely? Isn't 293 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: this isn't this the organization that is out here giving 294 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: out second, third, four chances. I mean, if you're talking 295 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: about organ, who's gonna trust him? Jerry, Who's gonna roll 296 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: the dome? On who that worked out for? I think 297 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: the last the last guy we tried that went was 298 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory, and then before that it was Greg Hardy. 299 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: I mean how many times we're gonna try to say 300 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: and it's the same position, like this is last chance you? Okay, 301 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying this last chance you man? Lando McClain, Yeah, yeah, 302 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you mean Alonzo Spellman, I mean, I go, 303 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: I go down the list. But I'm just saying this 304 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: is chance. So when you say who's gonna do it, 305 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: the cowboys are gonna know. I'm just saying you, you 306 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: as a GM, is that something that you are doing. 307 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: You trust what you've seen from Altar Smith so much 308 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: on the field that sure that you're able to say, 309 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: you know what, he played well enough for me to say, 310 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: even if he does fall off just a little bit 311 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: or get into some trouble, it's worth the risk, and 312 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: I'll give him three years, not with nine million dollars 313 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: year twenty seven million dollars. Now, now, can I let 314 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: me Now, let me just throw this out here with 315 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: the caveat of what I suggested. Your contract is going 316 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: to be set up in a way almost just like 317 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: Greg's Erlin's contract. Okay, I'm gonna set it up in 318 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: this way in which I can get out of it. 319 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: And that's something that I believe is more than fair 320 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: for the team and the player is, hey, look we'll 321 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: pay you, but because of what's happened in the past, 322 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: we have to have some insurance and protection for ourselves. 323 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: It's almost like the general mccoi contract. Now they put 324 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: some things in because he had that knee issue or 325 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: whatever the leg issue he had. They put some insurance 326 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: in me. Hey, if you heard it, then did we 327 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: get out of it? And they were able to get 328 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: out of the contract. So Danny, you're right. You know, 329 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here saying, hey, it's a guaranteed contract. 330 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: But but what I am going to do is pay you. 331 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm going to pay you 332 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: with protect actions um for myself because of the past. Listen, 333 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking. I'm looking at the defensive end, the edge 334 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: rusher list here for upcoming free agents, and I'm seeing 335 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: names like Olivier Vernon. I'm seeing Trent Murphy, I'm seeing 336 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: Pronell McPhee, I'm seeing Matthew june On. I'm seeing all 337 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: these names, and I'm going to make a run at 338 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: some of these guys before before I think about picking 339 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: up all the smith Somebody on that list is looking 340 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: for a one year, team friendly deal so they can 341 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: play it out. Somebody on that list is looking for 342 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: one of those, and I think we can get one. Okay, Now, 343 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: let me let me ask this. Okay, we just I'm 344 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: gonna push you a little bit more than if you 345 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: are trying to sign Dak Prescott, can you afford to 346 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: pay the price tag it may cost you to get 347 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: one of these free agent defensive ends because they're not 348 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: going to be cheap. I'm we need to go with 349 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: my approach. That's why we need to go with my 350 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to that. I've been trying to tell y'all, man, 351 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: this this is listen. This is the same thing, all right. 352 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: It's somebody like like Jadavian Clowney set out there and 353 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: he ended up getting lucky. It's one of these guys 354 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: on this list. It's going to be sitting out there 355 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: because teams aren't going to be willing to pay whatever 356 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: price tag. They think they're all work and you can 357 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: scoop in and pay them a team friendly deal. The 358 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: list is long. It's I see about thirty forty dudes 359 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: on this list. All right, somebody is going to be 360 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: available for you to go bring in, have a conversation 361 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: with and see if it really fits. Not like you 362 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: did every since Griffin, have a real conversation with the 363 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: defensive coordinated and see if this really fits with something 364 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: that you want to do. I would take that look 365 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: first before I thought about giving an Order Smith a 366 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: three year deal. Nothing against him, but I just haven't 367 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: forgotten about the pass the same way I haven't forgot 368 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: about the pass with Randy Gregor. Okay, so Danny, who 369 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: would you have? So who would you pick? Who would 370 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: you pick? D Mac not bad? Now he might bad? 371 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: I need to cut you off my back. No, no, no, man, 372 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: that you know what. It's really tough. I would really 373 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: have to go watch some film monic because I don't 374 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: want to pick them just off the name. But I 375 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: know that these guys have been able to make some 376 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: serious plays and they're proven players and they haven't been 377 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: they haven't had any off the field issues. They are 378 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: available for you for sixteen games throughout the season. Well, 379 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: then the issue is with these guys, and if their 380 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: agents are smart, they're gonna be pushing to get these 381 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: guys signed in March. With a guy like Everson Griffin, 382 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: Look how long you waited. So if you want to 383 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: play that waiting game, sit out free agency, you know, 384 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: go through the draft and then hope, you know, come 385 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: training cantime that you can get a deal on some guys. 386 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: Then they could do that. That's something they could do. 387 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: It'll be very interesting to see how the Cowboys approaching 388 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: because they want to rebuild this defense. Are they willing 389 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: to wait to try and get that part? Hey, let's 390 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: take a break here. We've got a whole list of 391 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: topics we still need to get to. 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Cowboys getting ready to face San Francisco 437 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: forty nine ers this week. The Cowboys have not had 438 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: back to back wins this season at all. I did 439 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: a little digging and I sent you guys this note. 440 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to look at Mike McCarthy since he's a 441 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: head coach right here, no back to back wins? I said, 442 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: when's the last time McCarthy had back to back wins 443 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: as a head coach? Remember he sat out all of 444 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. In twenty eighteen, he did not have a 445 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: back to back win, and he was fired after going 446 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: four set having in one, so twelve games gone. So 447 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: then I went back to twenty seventeen, and he did 448 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: have back to back wins. He had two of them. 449 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: It was December tenth, a win over Cleveland, and December third, 450 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: a win over Tampa Bay. Both of those wins were 451 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: in overtime. That Cleveland team with oh and sixteen. That 452 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 1: Bucks team went five and eleven. Gentlemen, let me who 453 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: was his quarterback? Who's this quarterback during that time? It's 454 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: a good question, hunt I don't Huntley was that the guy? 455 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait for that whole time, Aaron Rodgers 456 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: was not his quarterback. Oh no, he was in there. 457 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: He slid in there. Okay, Okay, I'm just so yeah, 458 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers get back. I don't know. I don't know, 459 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 1: yah and so and so the question I would I 460 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: would ask you, guys, is consistently people will say, hey, 461 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: a player has lost a step or a player doesn't 462 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: have what they used to. Could we say the same 463 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: thing about coaches, that coaches can cannot be as good 464 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: as you? Because I remember, and you guys are too 465 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: young for this. I remember in nineteen eighty eight when 466 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: Tom Landry with three thirteen people said game passed to 467 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: buy Remember what Chuck nod? Towards the end, people say, 468 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: you know what, Chuck No, can't do it anymore. They 469 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: said things about Don Shula. We're looking at Mike McCarthy 470 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: here at his last three games. Man, here, it's a 471 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: losing record. Can this guy be losing it a little bit? 472 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: And that's despite the fact Jerry said he's coming back. 473 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: That's fun. But I'm just wondering. I'm just asking the question. 474 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: Because we say it about players all the time, can 475 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: we say the same thing about coaches? Church? Church Listen, 476 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 1: you gonna understand this. While I'm laughing so hard when 477 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: knew he brought this question up, I'm just gonna say 478 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: this name, and I'm gonna see if y'all get a 479 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: little chuckle out of you. Monty Kiffin does do your 480 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: loser stuff? Do you loser stuff? Can the game pass 481 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: you by? Absolutely? You write about that, bro? Yes, man, 482 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: that the game evolved, It continues to evolve. Man. We 483 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: got we got different type of quarterbacks playing, We got 484 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: a different type of defense needs to be run. We 485 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: got different type of special teams stuffing going on. Yes, 486 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: the game eVols. You can lose a step, but if 487 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: you go sitting in the bar and you and you 488 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: do analytics, then then you shouldn't lose a step. So 489 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you know at this point is what it is. 490 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: We'll just see. Hey, man, I ain't gonna let y'all 491 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: sit here and pile up on my boy Big Mike 492 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: like that. Man. Look, he had an off year. Man, 493 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: he lost his QB one, he lost all his offensive linemen, 494 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: and his boy, his best friend, one of one of 495 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,239 Speaker 1: his boys, Mike Nolan, who he thought was gonna come 496 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: in here and improve the defense, ended up not doing 497 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: anything as far as being a part of this defense. 498 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: So look, I gotta give him a pass for this 499 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: one year. Is it possible that the game can pass 500 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: you back? One course it is. We saw we saw it. 501 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: We saw it with Kiffin, We saw with if even 502 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: the coaches in the same room with kiffing her like, man, 503 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: this dude doesn't know what he's talking about. So the 504 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: game can pass you by. But I'm not ready to 505 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: say that yet about Mike. Man. I can't do Big 506 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: Mike like that, know it? No? It did you just 507 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: read off something all the way goes all the way 508 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen, Church and talked about one off 509 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: here yea twenty what was his record? But what was 510 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: his record that that year? Though I understand he's four 511 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: seven one, four seventy one. They got the bhurt he 512 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: was in twenty eighteen, he was four seventy one. And yeah, 513 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: and I'm looking here at that last season okay, by 514 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: the way for four seventy one, and they fired him 515 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: after they got beat at home by the Arizona Cardinals 516 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen, who was quarterbacked by Josh Rosen that day. 517 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen was eleven to twenty six for one hundred 518 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: and forty nine yards. David Johnson was a leading rusher 519 00:25:51,640 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: for twenty carries in sixty nine yards. So listen, let 520 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: me let me break this down for Church, right, let 521 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: me break this down for Church, because I don't want 522 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: Church to feel like I don't want to feel like that. 523 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,479 Speaker 1: For me. It's like me going in on Big Mike. 524 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to you like this, Church, So 525 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: what do you think, you know, how you watch Hard 526 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: Knocks and all those TV shows to where they go, 527 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: you know, back into the to the meeting rooms and 528 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: you listen to the coaches talk about the players, and 529 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: you had always been one of those guys who say, man, 530 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: I wonder what they'd be saying about us. And in 531 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: the back of that room back there, right when guys 532 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: were starting to get cut, guys are starting to get released. 533 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you these conversations that we are having 534 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: right now, they are being had about players in the 535 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: locker room around every around every team in the league. 536 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: So the coaches can get the same stuff too. It 537 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: ain't nothing against Mike. We're just going we just went 538 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: back against his record saying he ain't want to back 539 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: to back games this twenty seventeen he got to the Cowboys, 540 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: and we do have all these issues. But right now 541 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: we're sitting there four wins, and even when Dak was playing, 542 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: we was sitting that to it three. So I mean, 543 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, something's got to give. He is having a 544 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: rough year. He's going to give another shot at it, 545 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: but for this year. I'm just talking about this year. 546 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: This is this is what I see from him and 547 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: when he got to the Cowboys. But we go ahead, 548 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: go ahead, and they go ahead. When we talk about analytics, 549 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: they start to take together, Hey what have you done here? 550 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: Here here? And they started putting it together to spit 551 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: out a number and and that, and I first Babe Laufenberg, 552 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: who's the analyst for Cowboys Radio Dallas Cowboys Radio. He's 553 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: the first person that brought together like, hey, this is 554 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: what Mike. Mike's record is, you know, over the past 555 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: two or three years, and and every you know, it's 556 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: just it's tough. And you start going back and you look, 557 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just tough. So when we go back 558 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: to back to back, wins Bury, we got to go 559 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: to twenty seventeen and it was against a team they 560 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: went oh and sixteen, coached by Hugh Jackson got fired. 561 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: And then it was against a five and eleven Tampa 562 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: Bay team coached by Dirt Cotter, who's since been fired. 563 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: Just saying I mean, I understand it. But but if 564 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: we look at all the other first year coaches with 565 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: their new team this year, I mean, he he hasn't 566 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: done that bad. I mean, yeah, it's not where the 567 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: expectations were where we thought coming into the year. We 568 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: thought this was a playoff caliber team, could be a 569 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl caliboy team. It just hasn't panned out that way. 570 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: But when you put him against all the other teams 571 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: that have, you know, new coaches for their first year, 572 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: he hasn't done that bad. I think he deserves another 573 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: year ago at least another goal. Oh, let's go all right, 574 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: he hasn't done that bad. His record is not that bad. 575 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland's first year head coach Kevin Stefanski is nine and four. 576 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: He came into AT and T Stadium and beat the 577 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: breaks off the Cowboys and rushed for three hundred and 578 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: seven yards with a second and third string running back. Okay, 579 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: uh you first year The other first year head coach, 580 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera, he's got cancer. His team is six and 581 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: seven and they beat the Cowboys twice. Other first year 582 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: head coach Joe jug five and eight. Mike McCarthy did 583 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: beat him. But the Giants right now have an opportunity 584 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: to win the division and they yeah for first year 585 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: head coach and he fired. He fired Mark Colombo during 586 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: the year and they got better. Mark Colombo making a difference. 587 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: Listen here, listen, knew it, knew it. Listen, don't let 588 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: Church fool you. It ain't about the records, bro, It's 589 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: about what you watch when no, listen, it's about what 590 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: you head coach. There we go, there you go, they 591 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: go to me. It's about what you see when you 592 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: when you watch the team, what's around the team. You 593 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: think about the issues that we've talked about around this 594 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: team since Mike McCarthy has got here. Outside of the record, 595 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: the fact that we are last in the division, all right, 596 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: outside of that, we are last Indie, worst division in 597 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: the National Football League, we last, all right. Outside of that, 598 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: we sit on this show and talked about anonymous were 599 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: sitting on this show and talked about players coming out here, 600 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: talking about you don't got to hostle the whole game. 601 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: They are here smashing watermellons from mo Eva. They out here, 602 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: like we talked about the were talked about it, and 603 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: that game won that game. Listen, we talked about we listen. 604 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just listening. We've talked about a special 605 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: team's coach possibly calling his own players and not letting 606 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: the head coach. No. We talked about We've talked about 607 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: a head coach who brought in a defensive coordinator who 608 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: hasn't produced at all, and and and possibly continuing to 609 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: have this guy as his defensive coordinator moving forward, and 610 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: when you look at the decisions that are being made 611 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: from the top coming down, that that is what plays 612 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: the bigger part in it for me. All Right, everything 613 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: else happened. We lasted the division, but how did we 614 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: look going into last place? It has been so many 615 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: issues from from day one. I mean there's a lot 616 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: of issues. You guys are there's a lot of issues. 617 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this whole thing is it's strawberries 618 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: and cherries and everything's going great. It's not. But I 619 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: think this guy deserves one more goal around mentioning it 620 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: and overall us and overreacha if if if you're looking 621 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: at records right now, first year head coaches overall, I 622 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: mean he's only two games back. It's two games back there, 623 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,959 Speaker 1: that's it, only two six and seven besides the Browns, 624 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: because I mean it looks the Fancy's got an amazing 625 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: job over there and they're balling right now. So besides 626 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: the Browns, I mean, he's right there with all the 627 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: first head year head coaches. He's right there. Eight four 628 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: and nine, four and nine. Don't let don't don't don't 629 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: let Church out of Twitter. People trying to get on 630 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: us talking about what we said Mike McCarthy shouldn't come 631 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: back next year. That ain't what we said. Year record 632 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: trying as bad as everyone else's. That's all I'm saying. 633 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: Those other those other three head coaches, two of the 634 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: three go be in the playoffs, Okay, two or three 635 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: go being the playoffs, and the other one will just 636 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: four forgot my rule because Matt rules for my bat 637 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: Matt Rule, Oh, Matt Rule. Okay, and you know what 638 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: that rules team, Matt Rules team has performed a lot better. 639 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I tell you what give me 640 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: Matt Rule. Matt Rule has done a better head coaching 641 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: job than Mike McCarthy has. Okay, the same record. That 642 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: ain't all about the record. Say it ain't about the record. 643 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: That's all You've been suspected to be one of the 644 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: worst teams in league. Carolina supeosed to be one of 645 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: the worst teams in the league. Okay, one of the worst. 646 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: They beat Arizona. They beat the breaks off Arizona. Arizona came, 647 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: beat the breaks off the stop stop it, we gotta 648 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: take a break here. So they beat Arizona. So that 649 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: means he's doing a better job than McCarthy. He is 650 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: got the same record. They got the same church. Church, Church, 651 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: you take Church. They had their quarterback whin, they got 652 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: their offensive line. What whatever, you're taking this break, Church, 653 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take your break, so you have to stop 654 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: taking these als. Okay, I'm gonna take this breaks. I 655 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: just don't believe y'all. Matt rules McCarthy. That's what I'm 656 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: saying it. That's blasphem, that ain't it. Let's just talking crazy. 657 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: Darren Woodson has some words about the Dallas Cowboys defense. 658 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: Let's let's hear from the Cowboys ring about a legend. 659 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: Next right here on the Players Club, brought you by 660 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: Hotel dot Com Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio, It's game Jay. 661 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: You know what that means. 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Forty nine 705 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: three point favorites by the way, in this football game. Okay, 706 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: it's a rough season for the Dallas Cowboys. It's been 707 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: a rough year for Barry Church, who made a bet 708 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: with Danny McCray about the Cowboys if you went in 709 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: the NFCC now owes hidding Nick and Sam's because the 710 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: slim chance of that happening. Darren Woodson, who won three 711 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowls with the Dallas Cowboys, recently said this about 712 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: the team, and I want to get your take on this. 713 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: I'll start with you, mccraig. Here's what Darren had to say. 714 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: The way they play it makes the competitor in you cringe. 715 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: It was my job to hit people, to punish quarterbacks, 716 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: to have my teammates back. But these guys, I don't know. 717 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: They're helping up runners, giving love taps on helmets after 718 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: the game. Sure, it's a brotherhood, but between the lines, 719 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: where's the animosity. We just don't see anger in this 720 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: defense is veins. We see tackling like they're playing flag football. 721 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: That's why all season they have been gashed. He goes 722 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: on to say, our old special teams coach Joe Avazano 723 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: ud say, sometimes you eat the bears. Sometimes the Bear 724 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: eats you at safety. You might not always win the 725 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: physical battle, but make no mistake, isn't a physical football. 726 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: This isn't the football physical football team. If you're out man, 727 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: you have to win the mental battles. You don't do 728 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: either of those. You get run over on one play, 729 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: that blowing a signent the next. That's where the bear 730 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: gets you. With this team, there's just too many mental errors, 731 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: just too much hero ball. Mccraig your thoughts. I'm gonna 732 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: keep this on short. I talked about this earlier when 733 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 1: I told you about how they looked against the Rams 734 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: when they were trying to defend the run they were 735 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: taking on all the blocks five yards deep. You've seen 736 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 1: them taking the run of the blow and that continue 737 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. And I have I 738 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: have my guests for the two guys to hear talking. 739 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: He's talking about it in those first two statements of 740 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: playing flag football and helping guys up and pattering him 741 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: on the helmet. I'm going with number twenty five and 742 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm going with Jayles Smith. I gotta I have to 743 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: have it in my mind that he watched those games 744 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: and he's seen that stuff happen and he's really talking 745 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: to them, but he just didn't want to say their 746 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: names because he's still going be around him. But those 747 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: are the two guys I think that he's talking about. Yeah, 748 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to agree one hundred percent with my 749 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: boy Woody out here. I mean, when it comes to 750 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: this defense, he hit the head. He hit the nail 751 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: right on the head with this one. I mean, I 752 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: agree with him when he says they're playing too much 753 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: hero ball. And we saw that the instant, specially as 754 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: I can't even speak right now, but we saw that 755 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: when they played Cincinnati, when Jalen hopped out of that 756 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: hole to try to go fill some other hole in 757 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: the running back ran right through where he was supposed 758 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 1: to be. That's called hero ball. That's not taking your 759 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: responsibility serious. And you're over there trying to do someone 760 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: else's job, trying to make every play, and you can't 761 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: do that. You gotta hold everyone accountable and you gotta 762 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: trust that your other team out out there is going 763 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: to do his job. When you spin out of holes 764 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: and you hop out of holes trying to make other 765 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: plays and trying to be instinctful like that, you're just 766 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: creating more problems for your defense, and we've seen too 767 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: many instances of that so far this season. So I 768 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: gotta agree with Woody on this one when he says 769 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: they're they're just playing hero ball and they're playing flag 770 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: football out there, and that's just not a winning formula 771 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: when you want this where you want this defense to be. 772 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: I forgot about that spin move. I forgot about to spend. Yeah, 773 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: I do, but I remember the hero ball that got 774 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: us in trouble against Baltimore where l V going the 775 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: wrong way as well. He knew his assignment and he 776 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: still try to go track down something that wasn't his job. 777 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: So I mean, like I said, Darren Wilson was watching 778 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: the same game we're watching, and he's been critical of 779 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: these guys. And you know, if anybody deserves to be 780 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: critical of the Cowboys defense is him because he's he 781 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: stood out there, He's earned it. He's a three times 782 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion, So if it's coming from him, it's 783 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: something to it, all right. Church raised another question here 784 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: that that we need to get into here on the 785 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: players line, and that is should the Cowboys bring Andy 786 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 1: Dalton back next year as a quarterback with this team. 787 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: I'll let you go ahead into that church. Since you raised, 788 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let y'all already know where I stand on this. 789 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: Exactly where I stand on this, So go ahead, ba y'all, y'all, 790 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: that's exactly where I stand on this. I know you you. 791 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: They should let him go, and then they should have 792 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: double G come back in here and be the second quarterback, 793 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: and then the Ducie should still be third. All right, 794 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: So if you're talking, I should be the third three quarterback. 795 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: Are you gonna bring in Justin Fields? You? Oh? Yeah, 796 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: Justin Justin Fields will be a thirteen quarterback. No all seriousness, 797 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: and in all seriousness, I think they should bring Andy 798 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: Dalton back next year so they can have a serviceable 799 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: guy one because as we sit here and as we 800 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: talk about each week, we have no idea what's gonna 801 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: happen with Dak Prescott. So you are going to need 802 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: a veteran guy out there. You do not want to 803 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: go into the off season with just Gilbert being your 804 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: quarter of Gilbert and the duty being the quarterbacks on 805 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: your roster. So bring Andy Dalton back. Make sure you 806 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: have a guy that's serviceable because you'll be fixing your 807 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: offensive line and hopefully next year they'll be able to 808 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: do something more. But yes, Andy Dalton should be back 809 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: next year. Well one, go ahead, go ahead and do 810 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: go ahead, I'll finish it up. I don't personally, I 811 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: don't see Andy Dalton back here because I think there 812 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: will be jobs starting jobs that Andy Dalton can possibly 813 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: compete with four across this league. Just looking at teams 814 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: that could be in need of a quarterback or have 815 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 1: some quarterback job competitions next year in New England, San Francisco, Jacksonville, Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, 816 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: New Orleans, Sampa Bay. Just a few teams that could 817 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: and if i'm Andy Dalton that come back here. They 818 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: signed Dak Prescott to a long term deal. I know 819 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: what I'm at. I'm sitting here as a guy who's 820 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: just holding a clipboard. Also, it costs you three million 821 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: dollars this year to sign Andy Dalton. He's about to 822 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: hit some incentives that could take him up to four 823 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: to five million dollars. If you signed Dak Prescott to 824 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: this deal. If the Cowboys go out and make the 825 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: kind of changes that we believe they will to fix 826 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: their defense, I don't know if you can invest three 827 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: million dollars and a guy who may not play in 828 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: terms of your backup. That's where I think that Garrett 829 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: Gilbert and Ben de Nucci are going to come and 830 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: to play here. Dak Prescott's deal here because Deshaun Watson 831 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: got forty million, I'm asking for forty million minimum. If 832 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm Dak Prescott's agent, Todd France. It's just not gonna 833 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: be a lot of money left around. So I just 834 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: don't think they gonna have the luxury to pay the 835 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,839 Speaker 1: quarterback the way they have it passed. Go ahead, Church, Yeah, 836 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: I think you're completely right about that. That's why I 837 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,280 Speaker 1: think Andy Dalton won't be back next year is because 838 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think he'll be looking to have a 839 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: job to start somewhere. I think his initial thing coming 840 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: down here was, you know, I'm gonna take a year off, 841 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my body right, and I'll just be 842 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: this backup quarterback. And it didn't happen that way. He 843 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: ended up getting thrust into the fire and he's played 844 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: okay throughout this season. But I think he's gonna look 845 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: for an opportunity to either get a starting job or 846 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: at least compete for a starting job. And another reason 847 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: you said is because you know the pay to pay. 848 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: It will be just a little bit too much to 849 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: pay a backup quarterback the money that I think he's 850 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: gonna want this off season. But I'm not gonna sit 851 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: here and let d mac disrespect DOUBLEG like that. All right, serviceable? 852 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: We saw what happened when DOUBLEG was able to come 853 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: in here against Pittsburgh, one of the best defenses in 854 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: the National Football LAG. He was more than serviceable. He 855 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: took them all the way down to the wire. And now, look, 856 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: I think DOUBLEG will be a lot cheaper, and I 857 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: think he'd be the better. She has a backup going 858 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: up next year, whether it be a backup to Dak 859 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: Prescott or whether it be a backup to one of 860 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks in the draft. Either way, I think 861 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: we should bring Double G back as a backup. Let 862 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton go ahead and do what he does. Hello, 863 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: So so you based us off Pittsburgh. Now have you 864 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: watched Pittsburgh the last few weeks. That's the only opted game, 865 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: the only opportunity they gave him, the opportunity they gave say, 866 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: I know, ys, the second you're talking before that Dallas game, 867 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: That's all I heard was Pittsburgh defense been to do this, 868 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is about to do that. Now we're talking about 869 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: all did you see? Now? Listen, listen, we thought Pittsburgh 870 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: was something that they're not and they've been short for 871 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. And like I'm I'm not saying 872 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: two weeks don't take away the whole season. No, listen, 873 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm not listening. I'm not saying that double double G 874 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: is bad. I think he went out there and he 875 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 1: did a good job in one game. And I say 876 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: this about Andy Dalton, Andy dont they started for nobody 877 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: next year? Y'all can say what y'all want to, Okay, 878 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't listen. If you are a GM and you're 879 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: looking for a starting quarterback and you end up with 880 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, you have made a mistake. He should be 881 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. That is what he should be, and 882 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: he should be here and being a backup quarterback. How 883 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 1: much you pay shop how much you play Sean leaders 884 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: year to not play? All right, Well, you can pay 885 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton three You can find a way to pay 886 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: Andy dump three million dollars to be the backup quarterback. 887 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: And who knows? We thought Andy Daltons gonna get no 888 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: pt this year. He's starting. Dak Prescott has been out 889 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: since the beginning of the season, so you never know 890 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. The game of football is one of 891 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: those sports to where you have no idea what's going on. 892 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: And they are lucky to have Andy Dalton as a 893 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: back of quarterback this year, even though Church thinks double 894 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: G would be better. Lucky Jackson Jacksonville tried to get 895 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton in this past offseason with COVID. Andy said 896 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: he didn't want to make the move with his family. 897 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: Jay Gruten's just former coordinator Cincinnati. They had Mike Glennon 898 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: out there starting Gardner Gardner Mint you bench, and I 899 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: believe they're gonna go for a quarterback as well. So this, 900 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, does Jacksonville want to invest in Andy Dalton, 901 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: pay him? You know, let's say they want to pay 902 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: him starter money of you know, twelve fifteen million for 903 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: one season and knowing that, you know they're gonna bring 904 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: in someone else. If you're Andy Dalton, you've got an 905 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to make that kind of cash. And you got 906 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: to coordinated whose offense. You know, I think you're gonna 907 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: have to think about it. You know, if Bill Belichick 908 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 1: and the Patriots, that was another team that was linked 909 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: to him, if they come and offer this guy, you know, 910 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 1: ten plus million dollars, and even if you don't guarantee 911 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: the starting job, I think you got to think about that. 912 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: If you're Andy Dalton versus sitting around here with the 913 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys and't trying to take around here in three, four 914 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: or five million bucks. I do believe in this quarterback 915 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: star of league that this guy can get paid this 916 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: kind of money. I mean, remember the Bears game. Mike 917 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,439 Speaker 1: Glennon eighteen million dollars wouldn't either. So it's not gonna 918 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: be crazy to say Andy Dalton is not gonna be 919 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: able to go get a job the GM. Still there 920 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: is that GM still working for the Bears. Yes, he'll 921 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: be fired right, still, right, let's ryan past got there 922 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty fifteen when I came back to the Cowboys, 923 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,360 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you he's on his last strike, all right, 924 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see and listen. Another bet, Andy 925 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: Dalton will not be starting for nobody next year. He 926 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 1: will not be starting for the Patriots. He would not 927 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: be starting for the Jacksonville Jaguars and I'm willing to 928 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: put something on it. You are you willing to go 929 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: for another bet? Neuis are you talking about five rifle? 930 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 1: It is sixteen after it's sixteen after we are over 931 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: our time producer. He has to take care of and 932 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: get to so for Danny Craig, thank you so much 933 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: for checking out The playoff Loud just brought to you 934 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: by Hotels dot com or Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Take 935 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: care everyone. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 936 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.