1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: It's the Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcasts pod. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: All right, here we go, da funny fordy five thirty 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: thirty five, forty hody five pict and the. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Kick as block look college Football World stunner, Oh my goodness. 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: Then stumbled and footble the lateral put the counter of the. 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 4: Eadside, get you the. 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Lad I take it off the fail to night. By God, 8 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: it's not the sage of the dog in the fighting, 9 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: it's the sage of the fighter in the doll. Welcome 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. This is our 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: group of five Deep Dive. I'm your host, my Calvaries. 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm joined by my Action Network colleague and Malik Willis 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: professional hater soon to be professional hater. It was a collegiate, mature, 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, hate relationship there for a bit. But he's 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: graduating up to the NFL Draft and now you can 16 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: take your talents to the pro level. And that's really 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: what this entire episode is about. We're going to get 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: into what we would affectionately refer to as graduation day 19 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: for a lot of the you know, group of five 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: studs that we followed all throughout the fall that will 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: hear the name called at the NFL Draft next week. 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: So really excited to get into it. And I would 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: be remiss if we didn't start with one of our 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: true favorites, a fan of the podcast. I know his 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: mother is a fan of the podcast. Of course, we're 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: speaking about Matt Riza, the punt God, and my first 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: question for you, Mike is how high is too high 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: to draft a punter of this caliber. I'll get into 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: some of the stats. There's actually a feature that was 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: written on five thirty eight in December that got into 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: the exact you know, impact that he has on a 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: football game. But I believe I need to check my notes. 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't think I have punter has been drafted, you know, 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: sooner than the third round in NFL history. So is 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: there any chance that he sneaks into that third round? 36 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: And if so, is that an overreaction or does the 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: pump goud have that much of a gravitational pull on 38 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: an NFL roster. 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, first of mine, I guess want to say, 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: how good to see back with you. I know we 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: haven't done this in a couple of months. It's it's 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: been a long you know, three four months without talking 43 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: college football, and obviously we're gonna do two episodes. First 44 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: one is focusing on the studs. So what better to 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: talk than our G five stud mattter Riza. And to 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: your point, it's it's weird. I personally, I actually hate 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: draft talk because it's it's a lot of people who 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: don't watch. 49 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: College football talking about college football. 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 3: And it's it's a combination of guessing what you think 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: should happen and what you think will happen. 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: So to answer your question, I do think Matt Riza. 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: Should go very high in this draft. I think he's 54 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 3: one of the more valuable players. He was one of 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: the most valuable players in college football last year. I 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: would take him in like the you know, the third round. 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: Ish. 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: He probably doesn't go to the fourth or fifth, just 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: because that's the way NFL t dar Noah wants to 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: take a punder in the fourth round. But I think 61 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 3: it's an underreaction saying matter Risees should go in the 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: fourth or third round. 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 4: I think he's that valuable to the teams. I think 64 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: that he should go that high. 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: What's interesting is that Pro Football Focus they went through 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: and they try to quantify how much value on a 67 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: point basis that he had given to San Diego State 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: last year, and he finished the year by average, by 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, inputting into their whole system, about twenty three 70 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: points worth of value, which is kind of incredible when 71 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: you think about. Obviously it does seem low, but it 72 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: was a team that you know, thrived on field position. 73 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: It was a team that defense defensively was very good. 74 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: But they needed him to pin teams and to flip 75 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: the field, as he did so many times. What I 76 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: think the only thing that could really tip it in 77 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: terms of him being a third round pick as opposed 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: to a fourth or fifth round pick is NFL team's 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: willingness and it's so rare to play him at both 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: hunter kickoff specialists and placekicker. If a team actually wanted 81 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: to do that, I think by virtue of aiming one 82 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: roster spot, he becomes an extra, you know, valuable asset 83 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: to the franchise. But really since Pat McAfee, it hasn't 84 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, gone over in the NFL. Most teams want specialists. 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: There's the reason that they're specialists. And in terms of 86 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: his place kicking, he was good, but not great super. 87 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: He's no an elite place kicker, which which I think 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: does to your point I do think he could do both. 89 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: At an elite level, he would be, but he's not. 90 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: It wasn't that good of a kicker. 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean, according to Pro Football Focus, he added the 92 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: most points other than Texas's Michael Dixon twenty seventeen. I 93 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: think actually by season's end, he eclipsed the impact that 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: Dixon had in twenty seventeen. But in the history of 95 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: all they're they're quantifying the punting data, he was number one, 96 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: So I think even just on that alone, there's going 97 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: to be some sweaty palms in those war rooms where 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: it's like, if we pass on him in the third round, 99 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: is he going to be there in the fourth round, 100 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Particularly teams that either want to fortify themselves to have 101 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: a good defense and they want to playfield position, or 102 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: if they have a bad defense and they want to 103 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: at least put themselves in a position to forced teams 104 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: to have to go to the length of the field. 105 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: That's like one of the story lines you know on 106 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: Day two and Day three that I'm most interested in, 107 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: and I would be just thrilled for him if he 108 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: ends up on a good team. But what's interesting is 109 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: usually you have these kids that you have this connection 110 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: to and you're like, I don't want to see this 111 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: star quarterback go to a tire fire of a team 112 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: just get beat up. 113 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: But with a punter. 114 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: It's like at their offense stinks, he gets a chance 115 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: to star. It's not exactly like, you know, getting drafted 116 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: by a bad team is gonna hurt him all that much. 117 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be all positive vibes 118 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: and good fields. 119 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: For him on draft night. The line should take him 120 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: number two overall. 121 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of the Lions, number two overall, do you think 122 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: that's justified or maybe too high for a little guy 123 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top, Malik Willis. I will see 124 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: this up. I know that you have a ton to 125 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: say about Liberty's greatest football player of all time. Thor 126 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: Nystrom of NBC Sports actually made a stretch comparison to 127 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Michael Vick for Millie Curts. So I'm only gonna, you know, 128 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: flow you up with a few more lines here. In 129 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: terms of pro football focus, the thing that they loved 130 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: about him was he made a lot of big time throws, 131 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: as they quantify it, which essentially means you're tacking downfield, 132 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: you're putting the ball in tight windows. And you're hitting 133 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: a higher percentage than really should be expected. So he's 134 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: a big play guy. And when you look at him 135 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: against the Blitz, sixteen touchdowns to two interceptions. But as 136 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: we know, and I know you'll get into it, he 137 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: does have a tendency to hold onto the ball, try 138 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: to make the highlight reel plays at all turns. And 139 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: the one thing that caught my eye after this, I'll 140 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: get out of your way. One hundred and ninety seven 141 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: carries last year. That's a lot, even for a running back, 142 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, to be able to take that kind of 143 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: pounding that he did and stay on the field. You 144 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: could look at it as that's a positive, or you 145 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: can look at as you know, how many hits is 146 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: he going to take someone who's already missed time in 147 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: his career due to injuries. All Right, I will pass 148 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: the baton to you, Malik Willis as a bona fide 149 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: top ten pick, the number one quarterback off the board. 150 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that? 151 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: Ah, This is another reason I hate the NFL drafts, 152 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: because you have months and months of just over hyping 153 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: these dudes based on what they do in shorts with 154 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: no defense and on the other side. 155 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: I hate that. 156 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: Then other people like me, and you know, there has 157 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 3: to be that devil's advocate. There has to be the 158 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: like you know, I'm gonna be the Malik Willis hater. 159 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: Milaku wils Is an awesome football player. I loved watching 160 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: him in college. He was very fun to watch. 161 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: He is exciting. I like Malik Willis as a human. 162 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: I think he's a very very good football player. Calling 163 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: him Mike Vick and you know, Lamar Jackson is like 164 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: the most insulting thing ever to those two quarterbacks. 165 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: Milik Willis was, like you said, he was the best 166 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: liberty player of all time. You want to know why 167 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 3: because he couldn't beat out Bonicks at Auburn. By the way, 168 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: Malik Wilfs was the going into his junior year. Boennickx 169 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: was an incoming freshman and Milie Willis couldn't take his job. 170 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: Now he's a first round draft pick. Yes, we talked 171 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: about the scramma. He's electric and he has a rocket arm. 172 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: He looked grating shorts because he doesn't have to read 173 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: a defense. 174 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 4: That's what he can't do. He can't read a defense. 175 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: He is elite at finding an open man and throwing 176 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: a bullet into coverage or got deep down the sideline 177 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: and using his arm strength against little sisters of the poor. 178 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: He is very good at that. I will give him that. 179 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: He has so many big time throws. But he was 180 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: ninety nine in the country in a just completion percentage 181 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 3: this year and ninety nine in turnover worthy play rate. 182 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 3: His PFF, as you mentioned, his passer grade was a 183 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: seventy seven point four. That is worse than guys like 184 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: Chase Brice, Dak Calzada, fencer standers, Jordan Travis, our Boy, 185 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: Chris Reynolds from Charlotte, all of them had a better 186 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 3: passer grade than Malie Willis. He threw twelve interceptions this year. 187 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 3: Only three quarterbacks in the entire country had more. He 188 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 3: threw multiple picks three interceptions against Middle Tennessee State, u 189 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: Ellmanroe Ole Miss. Now you want him to play the 190 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: Rams and the forty nine ers. 191 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: He couldn't. 192 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: He was horrible against Middle Tennessee. He completed just sixty 193 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: one point four percent of his past this year. And 194 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people point to you know, 195 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: Josh Allen is a is a cop that people have, 196 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 3: you know, rock an arm inaccurate. For me, when you 197 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: watch Willis, it's not so much he's inaccurate, because I 198 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 3: don't think he is that inaccurate to be honest with you. 199 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: If you watch him, he just makes bad decisions. It's 200 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 4: not like, oh, I. 201 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: Wanted to throw it here and it ended up over there. 202 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: It's I wanted to throw it here. But it's like, 203 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: but you shouldn't have his first options not open. He 204 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: either does two things. He panics and throws an interception, 205 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 3: or more likely, he panics, pulls the ball down and 206 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: gets sacked. Said the stats to me, so I'm gonna 207 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: snipe it. He averaged three point three to three seconds 208 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: the average throw time this year. That was one hundred 209 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: and fiftieth in the country. And all these there's always 210 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: talking about his escapability in the pocket because he's fast 211 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: and he's mobile. He had the third highest pressure rate 212 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: turned into sacks in the entire country. So it's not 213 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 3: just like, oh, you know, he scrambles and it gets away. 214 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 4: No, he gets sacked. He doesn't get away. He gets sacked. 215 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 3: He got sacked fifty times last season. That was the 216 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: most in the country by a wide margin. The next 217 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: closest only had forty four. So for all his mobility 218 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: and escapability, he still gets sacked more than anyone in 219 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: the country. So I just don't like the fact that 220 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 3: he can't read a defense. It's yeah, he has the 221 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: rocket arm, and if his first options wide open, all right, 222 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: sure he can vombit seventy yards down the field. He 223 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: had him been striving to score a touchdown. That's great. 224 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: But if that guy's not open, it's either a sack 225 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 3: or a turnover. And that is not first round pick material. 226 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: It's just not He's He is a long, long project, 227 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 3: and the teams in the first twenty are usually teams 228 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: that stink, that don't have weapons who can get open. 229 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 4: That's the issue. 230 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: I think the milk Wills hype is outrageous, and the 231 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: tea back too. I'm gonna ask you a couple questions that, 232 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: like I have, I think are legitimate questions to ask. 233 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: Would you rather have is milk Wills better than Jalen Hurts? 234 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: Would you rather have Will Hurts? Would you rather have 235 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: another more comp than the mar Jackson is? Would you 236 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: rather who's better Milik Wellis or Malik Cunningham. I'm a 237 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: Packs fan. Would you rather Mike Welister Jordan Love, because 238 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: Jordan Love had the same type of talk coming out, 239 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: like Jordan Love was projected to be a first round pick. 240 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: Jordan Love has a canon arm Jordan Love was Mobile 241 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 4: Wellis or Jordan Love. 242 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: I think what you're getting at it also boils down 243 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: to draft capital, So getting jail and Hurts in the 244 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: second rounds as opposed to Jordan Love in the first rounds. 245 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Like I just, I think it comes down to what 246 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: you're giving up to get them. You know the Rams 247 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: right now, if you take a bet for them to 248 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: take Willis second overall at page seven to one, That's 249 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: probably how I'm going to roll the dice on this one, 250 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: just because I think the Lions are desperate. In the NFL. 251 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: You can talk about culture building and winning with defense 252 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: and YadA, YadA, YadA. If you don't have a quarterback 253 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: that is a difference maker, it's very difficult to have 254 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: a winning record in the NFL. So I think, even 255 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: in a draft that is lean on difference making quarterbacks, 256 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: I think there's a better than good shot that the 257 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: Lions stretch and go for him. It too, So in 258 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: terms of how I'm playing this, I'm going to go 259 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: with that bet, But in general, I agree with you 260 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: where it's like if he was viewed more as a project, 261 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: because you also have to back out and look at like, 262 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: what is Hugh Freeze's track record in terms of producing 263 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: NFL ready quarterbacks, Like, it's never happened. So he creates 264 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: offensive systems that give their give their offensive chance to 265 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: hit big plays, give their quarterbacks a chance. I think 266 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: about Swag Kelly taking shots down the field and extending 267 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: plays with his legs, like very similar. Swig Kelly obviously 268 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: was not quite the athlete that Malik is, but he 269 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: had no NFL future right from the get go. Where 270 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: it's like coming in showing how to you know, beat 271 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: an NFL defense, he couldn't do it. And I think 272 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of the warning signs here with Willis 273 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: as well. You know, he doubles his interceptions year over 274 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: year total from last season into this season. And then 275 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: on top of it, there's the numbers that I quoted 276 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: against the Blitz sixteen touchdowns of two picks. That's great, 277 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: but what he would do is he would hold the 278 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: bowl and create pressure around him. And then at that 279 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: point his NFL passer rating was fifty nine, an NFL 280 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: pascerrating of fifty nine. You know you're end up getting cut, 281 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: like you don't even have a future as a backup. 282 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I think this is you know, 283 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: kind of the natural reaction of the NFL draft, you know, 284 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 1: industrial complex, where it's like there has to be a 285 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: top five quarterback every years. There has to be multiple 286 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: really where they're trying to talk themselves into Desmond Ritter 287 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: someone I'll mention later as a bona fide you know, 288 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: top fifteen pick option. It's like it doesn't have to 289 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: be that way like the rest of the draft process. 290 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: You know that they really I think they undervalue positions 291 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: like safety, they overvalue positions like quarterback. There's just it's 292 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: difficult for everyone to get to the same page that 293 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: it's okay for a particular class to be weak at 294 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback position. But I don't think that's how it's 295 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: going to play out. I think there's going to be, 296 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: you know, some reaches, and Wilse is going to be 297 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: one of them. 298 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 3: Your point about you know the line, it's possibly and 299 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: obviously this is this is, you know, at its nature, 300 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: a betting podcast. So for some action if Mileague will 301 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 3: does go in that first fifteen picks and it looks, 302 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 3: you know, very clear, like he's in a spot where 303 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 3: he's expected to, if not start right away, starts to 304 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: you know, Jared Goff situation. You don't know who's their 305 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 3: starter there. I will bet whoever drafts lake Willis, I'll 306 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: bet there are season win total under next season probably 307 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: Friday morning if I think he's going to be their starter, 308 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: because he's just he is not ready to be an 309 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: NFL quarterback. 310 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks that are not ready, I will jump 311 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: over to Desmond Ritter, a guy that I really liked. 312 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled that he was able to play well enough 313 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: in their big games. You know, when you look back 314 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: two years ago against Georgia, they get that momentum, that credibility. 315 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: In the off season, they build on it by going 316 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: to an notre game. He played another good game there. 317 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: He plays well against Houston in the AAC title game, 318 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: and obviously not just him with the whole offense like 319 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: shut down. And I really blame more so the coaching 320 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: staff from Cincinnati that playoff game against Alabama. You got 321 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: to play with a certain amount of house money, you 322 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: got to take some shots down field, some trick plays 323 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: if you're going to beat an NIX saving coach team, 324 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: and they were so conservative in that game, I think 325 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: it really put them behind the eight ball from the 326 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: get go. All that being said, the reasons why NFL 327 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: teams look at him in terms of being potentially a 328 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: quality starter is that for starters, he doesn't turn the 329 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: ball over, which I think is a really key indicator. 330 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: On the opposite of the spectrum, had a guy like 331 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold who had all kinds of issues in his 332 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: last year as a starter in LA with interceptions and fumbles, 333 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: and that to me is a red flight. James Winston 334 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: had that same issue the season after his Heisman campaign, 335 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: and some teams they just blow right through that red light. 336 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: But with Ritter, he's done a good job fourteen picks 337 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: in two years as a starter, and he's someone who 338 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: had the ball in his hands a lot. He was, 339 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, involved in the running game with the Reid option. 340 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: He you know, threw a lot of passes, you know, 341 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: particularly downfield when he's going for Alex Peers. So it 342 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: wasn't just dink and dunk all the time. And clearly 343 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: he's a plus runner. Nearly a thousand yards across last 344 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: two years eighteen TDS. As I mentioned his game film 345 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: against some of the better teams defensively Georgia, Notre Dame, 346 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: Peuson all that's great. I just don't see it as 347 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: a first round pick. But I do believe that he 348 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: has a chance to come off the board here. I'm 349 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: going to sweat it out in the last ten picks 350 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: because I think it's going to be picket ahead of him, 351 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: and then that's going to be a question. Are the 352 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Steelers putting up a smoke screen so they really want 353 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: to take him at twenty they move back. I think 354 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: it's a smoke screen for a team that's, you know, 355 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: historically been pretty conservative with quarterback draft picks. I'm going 356 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: to go ahead and make a recommendation. If you can 357 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: get under two and a half quarterbacks in the first 358 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: rounds at plus two hundred or better, that's my threshold 359 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: to pull the trigger. So I'm going to shop around 360 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: for that. Right now, it's in that plus one to 361 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: ninety plus two a five range, so I'm going to 362 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: see if it can bubble up just a little bit higher, 363 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: and then I'll go ahead and take it. Because I 364 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: do think there's enough question marks around him, in particular 365 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: to see only two quarterbacks go off the board in 366 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: the first round. What do you think about that play 367 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: in terms of both Ritter and also quarterbacks. 368 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 4: In round one would make me nervous. 369 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: I think Kralp sneaks into that end of the first 370 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: round potentially. But as far as as Ritter goes, to me, 371 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: he's almost the exact opposite of Malik Willis, where I 372 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: almost think he is the most NFL ready because as 373 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: you mentioned, he's got fifty games of college experience. He 374 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 3: was forty four and six is the start, the third 375 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: most wins in FBS, his three thirty touchdowns, just eight picks, 376 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: six rushing touchdowns. You know, all you hear about this 377 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: guy is great leader, great worth, work, ethic, led Cincinnati 378 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: to the playoffs, and he's to me the opposite of 379 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 3: Willis where he has you kind of know what his 380 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: ceiling is, but he's got a very high floor. Like 381 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: I think he's a guy you know like the Steelers, 382 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 3: like he would be pervet for the Steelers. Go out there, 383 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: you know, just hand the ball the Naje Dank and Dunk. 384 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: Don't turn the ball over. And let our defense and 385 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: running game win us the game. He gets the ball 386 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: out really quickly. He makes the right decision. He doesn't 387 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: have the best throwing mechanics, he doesn't have the August arm. 388 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 3: He doesn't turn the ball over. He's a good leader, 389 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 3: he knows how to run an offense. 390 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 4: I think he is the. 391 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: Safest like going into next season just because of his experience. 392 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 3: To me, he reminds me a ton of Teddy Breeze Bridgewater, 393 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: where you know what you're gonna get. He's never gonna, 394 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: you know, win use Super Bowl and be the most 395 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: flashy and sell the most jerseys. But you're like, we 396 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 3: could put Teddy in and we're gonna go five hundred 397 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: and Yeah, Tyron Taylor, he's one of those guys to 398 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 3: me who are both serviceable NFL starters. 399 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 4: So to me, I agree with you. I don't. 400 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: I don't know that he goes in the first round 401 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: unless the Steelers take a stab at him. But going 402 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 3: back to the Melik Will's point, I'd much rather draft 403 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: Desmond Ridder in the second round than draft Malik Willis 404 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: in like. 405 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 4: The top fifteen decks, So. 406 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: Backup for a teammate that I think is gonna go 407 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: off the board before Ritter, certainly before Ritter. Sauce Gardner 408 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: loved this guy as someone who bets Cincinnati a lot 409 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: across the last two years. He was someone that made 410 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: me so confident in those picks. The defense as a whole, 411 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, under Freeman was tremendous, but he really made 412 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: it all work because he had that rare combo of 413 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: being you know, Pro Football Focus quantifies this a top 414 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: ten cover corner in all college football, but also from 415 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: the cornerback position, a top ten run defender, and I 416 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: think that's becoming more and more important in the current 417 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: NFL because you have more of the sub packages on 418 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: the field as your face defense. You have fewer linebackers 419 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: on the field, so you need corners and safeties who 420 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: can really tackle. 421 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: He can do that. 422 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: He's ninety eighth percentile on arm length and height for 423 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: his position, and because of that, I think he's an 424 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: ironclad lock to be the number one corner that comes 425 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: off the board. Caesar Sports Book has it at minus 426 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: four hundred. I'm going to use as a free multiplier. 427 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: I'm tacking that on to almost every other bet by 428 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: making the first round to flip the juice from minus 429 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: one ten to plus one twenty in that range for me, 430 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: I also like him to go off the board before 431 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: the eighth pick. You can get that at minus one fifty. 432 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of teams that are really 433 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: going to be interested in his services. I wouldn't be 434 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: shocked to see him go fourth or fifth overall, depending 435 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: on how the musical chairs work with some potential trades. 436 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: But Sauce is a guy I really love and I 437 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of fond memories of him. You know, 438 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: this entire podcast is about studs. I want to make 439 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: sure to give the love to the defensive side of 440 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: the ball and mainly the Sauce Gardner. What are your 441 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: thoughts on him potentially being a top ten pick. 442 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 4: I love it. 443 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: I love Sauce Gardner. I had I had a little 444 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: trouble finding, you know, actionabal bets. I like the one 445 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: I had written down, which I absolutely love is Sauce 446 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 3: Gardner under seven and a half draft position. 447 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 4: I think, like you said, I think he's top five pick. 448 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 3: I think, obviously not including matt Riza, I think he's 449 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: the best group of five player in this draft. 450 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 4: He is the best corner in this draft. There's not 451 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: a lot of holes you could poke in his game 452 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 4: when you when you watch it. 453 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: You know six' three big ran a four to four 454 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: fast like you, mentioned freaky long. Arms we've all heard 455 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: the Stat he's never allowed a touchdown pass his entire 456 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: college career over eleven hundred. 457 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: Snaps he is. 458 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: Dominant but maybe WHAT i love about him the most, 459 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: too is he his. Style like he is so good 460 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: at press. Cover he plays more press covers in any 461 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: corner in the. Country he gets up in your, face 462 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: max in the, mouth get you off your rout. Immediately 463 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: and for someone who plays so physical and so, pressed 464 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: the most impressive thing about, him especially this, year was 465 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 3: he really really cut down on the. Penalties that was 466 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: like his only red flag two years, ago he only 467 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 3: got called for two penalties all of last. Season so 468 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: for a guy who plays such press coverage and is 469 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: in your face making, contact the only get called for 470 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: two penalties is so incredibly impressive to. Me and the 471 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 3: THING i love about him the most is he is so. 472 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 3: Confident he talked so much shit and he backs it, 473 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 3: up and that's what you want of a. Corner you, 474 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: know you want a corner that's in the receiver's, head 475 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 3: talking to, him jamming him at the, line saying they're 476 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: gonna shut him, down and then doing. It cannot be 477 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 3: more of a Soft gardener fan under seven and a 478 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 3: half draft. 479 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: POSITION i. 480 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: LOVE i think The giants probably take, him The jets 481 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: might take. Him he's going in that top. Eight like you, 482 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: SAID i Love Sauce. 483 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: GARDNER i can't quite see because your cameras crops a little, 484 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: bit but you do have A mac shirt, on. Correct 485 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: you know this is A mac friendly podcast and funny of, 486 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: love punny of love for the ac plenty of love 487 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: for The Mountain west With. Ariza but let's go to The. 488 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: Mac let's talk sky. More this is a guy, who you, 489 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: know probably fifteen to twenty years ago would have been 490 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: a six or seventh round pick because he's only five 491 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: to ten about a buck. Ninety but in the MODERN, 492 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: nfl for someone who ran a four to four one 493 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: forty yard, dash had a solid vertical elite route, runner you, 494 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: know could run the full. Tree, REALLY i think when 495 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: you look at his highlight, reel what jumped off to 496 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: me was it wasn't a lot of bubble screens and 497 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: slants that he was taken to the. House he had 498 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: great body control when he went, up and he had 499 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: some huge games this, year and particularly early in the 500 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: season Against pitt he sparked that upset eleven, receptions one 501 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: undred and twenty. 502 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: Four yards OF. 503 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: Td he's someone THAT i love And i'm going to 504 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: give a piece of advice in terms of how to bet. 505 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: This unfortunately for, him this draft class is crazy deep 506 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: at wide. Receiver you're going to see so many names 507 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: go off the board in the first round that are 508 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: not Sky, moore and he really has no chance of 509 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: jumping over. Them, however once you get to that second 510 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: rounds and you can get some live numbers on, one he'll. 511 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: GO i think there's a chance that he could go 512 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Before dotson and Before George, pickens just because of some 513 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: of the fits of the teams that are looking to add. 514 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: Him The, Lions, browns And colts all in that like 515 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: first hand picks of the second rounds. Window they all 516 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: have needs at wide, receiver AND i think just given 517 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: how well he played and the fact that he was 518 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: the number one option and he's still put. UP i 519 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: think he had ninety five receptions last, year some incredible. 520 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: Numbers someone that was an absolute pleasure to watch one 521 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: of the best upsets of the entire year FROM g 522 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: Five lands beating a pit team that ends up going 523 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: to A New year Six. Bowl so lots of love 524 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: for Sky. Moore i'm going to go ahead and IF 525 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: i can get a live number coming off the, board 526 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: that's you, know plus for him to leap frog either 527 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: at dots and pickens or. Both you, know if you 528 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: can get that you, know next wide receiver to go 529 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: off the board at two to, one three to, one 530 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: to four to, one somewhere like that in round, Two 531 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: i'm going to go ahead and take a. SHOT i 532 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: think he's an undervalued asset and he performed really well 533 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: at the you, know the pre draft combine and events 534 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: and things like, that, interviews everything that seems to be 535 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: coming out around, him whether FROM nfl Dot, com some 536 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: the the, analysts some of the recruit nexts who have 537 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: access to general, managers seems to be some solid buzz on. 538 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: Him so just a NAME i have, circled AND i 539 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: know you're a Big Western michigan, fan a team that 540 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: you've played a lot in the last couple of. Years 541 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Sky? 542 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: Moore, YEAH i Love skymore like you'd. Like you mentioned 543 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: that that big ups Against, pitt WHICH i BELIEVE i recall. 544 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: Correctly we gave out their money line on the, podcast 545 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: so shout out to. Us, yeah obviously you know the 546 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: five to ten is a concern people will point, too 547 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 3: BUT i agree with. You he he forced thirty misstack 548 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: was last season the second most in the. Country the 549 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: word you'll constantly here use describe Sky moore as shiftiness 550 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: because he's not the, Fastest like he doesn't have. 551 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: That you, know four three track, speed but he is just. 552 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 4: Shifty he is. Quick he, has like you, said great body. 553 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 3: Control he's great in and out of, cuts great at breaking, 554 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: tackles a huge THING i love seeing From. 555 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: Skymore USUALLY i don't put much stock. 556 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: Into anything that comes out of the, Combine like you, 557 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: Know Kenny pickett's hand, size who, Cares but Sky moore 558 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: had the biggest hands of any receiver at the, combine 559 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 3: which is a good. Sign LIKE i like that for 560 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: someone who is, small like you, said he can he 561 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: can go up and play above his side because his 562 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: hands are so, big able to make. Catches if the 563 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: second best receiving great in the entire, country he'll probably 564 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: be used as a slot receiver in THE. 565 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: Nfl BUT i Love. 566 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: LOVES i think we see a decent amount OF g 567 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: five receivers on that second day because another GUY i 568 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 3: want to mention Is Jalen, tobert who is to, me 569 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: he's LIKE Dk. Metcalfa he's the Opposite. Skymore he is, 570 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: yoked he is absolutely. Shredded he looks like K. 571 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: Meal he is, big he is, fast he is a 572 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: great Deep another guy has great body. 573 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: Control he is really good at going up and getting the, 574 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: ball really good at high pointing. It he was third 575 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: in the country last year with one hundred and twenty 576 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 3: two point eight yards per. Game he did a fourteen 577 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: point two average depth of, target led the cuntry with 578 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: eighteen receptions of thirty plus. 579 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 4: Yards so this guy is just send him on a flyer, 580 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: out go up and get. It AND i love especially 581 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: with THESE d five. 582 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: Guys you mentioned Sky moore Against, Pitt it's always important 583 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: to see what they did against the higher, competition against 584 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: that power five. Level, well When South alabama Played, Tennessee, 585 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: granted you Know tennessee's not the best, defense but it's 586 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: AN sec. Defense Jalen tolbert seven, catches one hundred and 587 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: forty three yards and a. Touchdown he absolutely dominated the. 588 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: Volunteers So Jalen tolbert's another Guy i'm. LOVING i like Sky, 589 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: Moore Christian, watson not REALLY g, five BUT Fcs Kris Christian. 590 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 3: Watson he's one of the guys WHERE i knew absoutely 591 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: nothing about until the combine and apparently he like tested 592 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: off the. Charts people are loving. Him our Boy Calvin 593 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: austin will probably go in that you, know, third fourthish. 594 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 3: Round he's kind of like Sky moore as not as. 595 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: GOOD i would, say, YEAH i definitely love Love more And. 596 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: TOLBERT i think they both go in the second. ROUND 597 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: i think they're both. 598 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: SuDS as someone who lives in the college fantasy football, 599 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: World tulbert's been on my radar for a long. Time 600 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: really held back by some shoddy quarterback play over the, 601 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: years you know At South, Alabama but when you look 602 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: at the way that he's able to break games wide. 603 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: Open he opened the season on a seven game stretch 604 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: where he had at least one forty plus yard catch that's. 605 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: Ridiculous like when you look at his game, log like 606 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: some of these stats todays pop off the, screen Including. 607 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: Tennessee he had a sixty eight yard touchdown in that, 608 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: Game SO i agree with. YOU i think he's someone 609 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: that has all the physicality and someone who could be 610 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: a good example of someone who progresses and matures at 611 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: THE nfl level and is even better than the college 612 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: version because he's finally getting professional quarterback play as opposed 613 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: to not only did they have some identity issues offensively 614 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: and kind of switching between you, know run pass, ratios 615 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: but also just playing musical chairs at. Quarterbacks SO i 616 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: really Like tolbert a. LOT i think he will come 617 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: off the board in the second. Round all, right one, 618 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: more that's we're going to tease up. Here our next 619 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: podcast is going to be about. Sleepers this was about 620 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: some of the studs that we really, liked a super 621 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: deep sleeper because as the folks watching on YouTube can 622 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: see above my head out of The Western entucky. Helmet 623 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about the zapp, got but 624 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: we are going to talk about his number one target 625 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: who finished last season with one hundred and fifty, Receptions, 626 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: like are you kidding? 627 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 4: Me Jared. 628 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: Stearns he's a kid THAT'S i find to be really 629 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: interesting because he torpedoed his own college career with his 630 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: forty yard dash in high. School he ran a four 631 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: eight six forty in high. School so he ends up 632 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: At Houston. Baptist we've covered this many. Times he ends, 633 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: up you, know absolutely tearing up the record books down, 634 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: there goes To Western. Kentucky you, know they accomplished things 635 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: that have never been seen at THE fbs. Level and 636 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: now he comes in and where is he going to? Be? Drafted, fifth, 637 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: sixth seventh? Rounds some grades have him as an undrafted free. 638 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: AGENT i think that's. Ridiculous he reminds me a lot 639 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: Of James, proche THE smu wide receivers with The, ravens 640 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: who in year two had a little bit of. SUCCESS 641 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: i think he had twenty twenty five receptions for The 642 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: ravens last. YEAR i think that's the kind of player you're. 643 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: Getting and it's an opportunity for me to say say 644 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: his hometown with, it which is Walk, Sahachie. Texas that's 645 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: a fantastic town. Name so we're going to get in 646 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: some more. Sleepers is there anyone you're really excited in 647 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: the next pod to talk about from The sleeper perspective 648 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: BECAUSE g five has never had a shortage of those. 649 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: Players, yeah there's so many wide. Receivers i'll probably save 650 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: the wide receiver talk for the next. POD a couple of. 651 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 4: GUYS i wasn't sure where we were drawing the. 652 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: Line between studs and, sleepers SO i kind of just 653 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: did an outline for this. Pod GUYS i thought would 654 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: go in the you, know the top three ish. Round 655 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: So i'll just really quick a couple of other guys 656 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: and we can touch on more next. Pod you, Know 657 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 3: Carson strong is Someone i'm super interested, in BUT i 658 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 3: know we both Love Carson. Strawan he's another one rocket 659 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: arm makes all the throws. 660 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 4: Crazy the arm. 661 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: Talent, obviously the knee Issues he's had a ton of 662 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: knee injuries is kind of his big. CONCERN i think 663 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: this is kind of a weak running back class FOR 664 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: g five. Guys you, Know Tayler algier is probably the 665 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 3: TOP gf five guy for B. 666 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 4: Yu he's. 667 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: Interesting i'm a big fan Of, algier but he's not 668 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: the fastest. GUY i think it's going to hurt. 669 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 4: Him. 670 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: Obviously a ton of wide receiversh another STUFF i want 671 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: to talk about THAT i do think goes in the 672 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 3: first two. Rounds Is trey McBride From Colorado. State he's 673 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: another one where he might be the top tight end 674 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: off the. Board ninety catches eleven hundred. Yards he had 675 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 3: the highest receiving grade in the country last season among 676 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: any player at any, position, wide, receiver tight, end running, 677 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: back And. 678 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: Colorado state was like so bad and he was their only. 679 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: Weapon he was their entire. 680 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: Offense everyone knew he was getting the ball still managed ninety. 681 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 3: Catches he's a deep threat option who just blows pass. 682 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: Linebackers and the big thing about him is he's one 683 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 3: of those tight ends The George kittle that loves. Blocking 684 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: he loves, blocking he loves throwing dudes out the, club 685 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: and then he's just an awesome. Receiver So i'm really 686 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: high On. Treny why this is actually a sneaky good 687 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: draft for tight. Ends you'll Have isaiah likely go, probably you, 688 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: know fourth is Shar round Col turno probably a late 689 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: late tight end as. 690 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 4: Well T trey. 691 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: McBride's definitely a. GUY i want to talk about a 692 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: couple of other. Defenders you, Know Chad Chad moomi is 693 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: probably the FIRST g five linebacker Got Cam Cam. 694 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: Thomas they addressed From Kanadayo. State he probably probably sneaks 695 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: in the second. Round shout Out. 696 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: Yukon there's been a lot of talk With Travis, jones 697 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: the big dtack From, yukon that he could sneak into 698 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: the first. Round when's the last time A yukon player 699 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: was drafted in the first round with The Byron jones, 700 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: probably uh, So Travis, jones you, know shout out to The. 701 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: Hoskis it's mind. Bottling but he's six, five three hundred 702 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: and thirty three. Pounds he's just an absolute you know. 703 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: Man they just put in the middle of the field 704 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: and let him blog up. Everything so, yeah those are 705 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: the a couple more GAMES i want to throw. 706 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: Out i'm sure you're you, can you, know interior defender 707 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: head on a little bit of That Bobby bouchet energy 708 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: where they call it time that and be like all, right, 709 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 1: defense you, know let's run to the. Football we can 710 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: do it. Together and then they bring him. Aside it's 711 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: like you're the only one who can do. Anything these 712 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: guys are. Awful so, yeah it's kind of amazing that 713 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: you could have AN nfl player on just one of 714 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: the worst defenses we've seen really the last fifteen years 715 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: in college. Football but that's what makes this timing your. 716 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: FUN i think everyone deserves their shine and we'll certainly 717 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: get into it more in the next, pod some of 718 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: those deep. Sleepers so it's just good to talk college football. 719 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: Again you, know this is really the time of year 720 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: when people are putting together of their data, sets when 721 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: the transfer portals starting to cool off a little. Bit 722 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: there's more stability with the. Rosters you're starting to, see you, 723 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: know some separation from springball in terms of how the 724 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: depth charts are going to shake out at. Quarterback so 725 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: lots of interesting things happening in college, football and before 726 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, it you, know media days will be, crank 727 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: AND i think we should get a media. PASS i, 728 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: mean does THE mac have a live? EVENT i hope 729 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: it's not On zoom, only BUT i would love to 730 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: go to The sunbelt THE mac media days wherever they're 731 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, What i'll Go sunbelt because the chances of 732 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: it being in Like, Dayton ohio for THE maac are 733 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: probably too. 734 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: Hot you, said you said where they, are, like they're 735 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: not one hundred percent of any Other, Dayton ohio Or Detroit, 736 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: YEAH i. 737 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: Wouldn't mind going down To Myrtle beach or something like 738 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: that and Talking grayson McCall and everything else that's happening 739 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: IN g five, land particularly in The Sun. Belt so 740 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: we'll put a pin in. 741 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: That. 742 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: Healy, YEAH i mean The club Lit is is asking for, 743 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: us so hopefully we can get on the road a 744 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: little bit and provide some extra analysis from a new exotic. 745 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: Locale but if we, don't you can still count on 746 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: us throughout the off season to bring a bit more 747 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: of THE g five deep dive to get you revved 748 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: up for college. Football will really start in, earnest the 749 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: end Of july and Early, august getting into some of 750 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: those season. Previews but we will have one more episode 751 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: here FOR Nfl Draft talk coming next week ahead of 752 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 1: THE Nfl. Draft we'll get into, sleepers so you can get. 753 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: It go ahead and check us out anywhere that fine 754 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: podcasts or. Sold this has been the. 755 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 4: Big that's On fami's. 756 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: Podcast I'm Mike, Calvaries He's Mike. Ianello thank you so 757 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: much for. Listening