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Speaker 4: quarterback and a Bengals quarterback for another Bengals team that's

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Speaker 4: not going to the playoffs. Was talking with the media

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Speaker 4: recently and just sort of addressing where he's at from

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Speaker 4: his standpoint with the season being what it is and

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Speaker 4: sort of where he's at at this point in his career,

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Speaker 4: and had this to say, if.

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Speaker 5: I want to keep doing this, I have to have

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Speaker 5: fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,

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Speaker 5: and if it's not fun, then what am I doing

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Speaker 5: it for.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure there is a singular moment or time.

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Speaker 3: It's just a.

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Speaker 5: Reflection, reflection on a lot of things that I've done

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Speaker 5: and been through in my career. I think I've been

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Speaker 5: through more than most and it's certainly not easy on

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Speaker 5: the brain or the body. So let's trying of if

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Speaker 5: I'm doing it again.

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Speaker 4: Some people have taken that as he's not happy with

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Speaker 4: the Bengals organization. I took that as maybe he's not

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Speaker 4: happy with physically and mentally where he's at and it's

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Speaker 3: That's how I don't think one has to be false

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Speaker 3: for the other to be true.

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Speaker 2: It could be all of it.

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Speaker 3: You know a lot of things that guys go through

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Speaker 3: that they have to figure out.

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Speaker 2: How to lose.

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Speaker 3: And it's a lot of times most of us, at

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Speaker 3: like an elite level, we don't know what losing really

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Speaker 3: feels like. We know what a loss feels like singular

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Speaker 3: like here and there, you'll lose a game here and there,

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Speaker 3: But losing, you know, that's that's not that's not easy,

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Speaker 3: and there's nothing fun about it. And there's nothing profound

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Speaker 3: about not being happy in failure. So it's not a

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Speaker 3: place where you want to get used to being. It's

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Speaker 3: not something that you want to be okay with. So

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Speaker 3: you know, and you throw in it, you know, his

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Speaker 3: health with that, I think it's a it's it's very

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Speaker 3: reasonable to say what it is that he's saying, like,

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Speaker 3: it's not fun losing, it's not fun fighting, you know,

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Speaker 3: through injuries and trying to get your health right. Is

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Speaker 3: there's a there's a lot of moving parts to a

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Speaker 3: football season. I can only imagine how much more that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was gonna look at one thing

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Speaker 1: differently because Jonas has written off this Bengals team and

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Speaker 1: that's not technically true. True they do have a one

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Speaker 1: they'd have to do that by winning the division. So all,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, here's what needs to happen. Okay, for a

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Speaker 1: seven and ten Bengals team, maybe you would just want

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Speaker 2: The Bengals would have to go at a minimum three

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Speaker 1: So there's your scenario. That's how they'd go about winning

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Speaker 1: it out. But so it's not over completely. I will

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Speaker 2: You're twenty nine years old, you're.

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Speaker 1: Playing under a contract where you got two hundred nineteen

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Speaker 1: say fun, like when it's not fun. First off, as

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Speaker 1: dealt with adversity from injuries to going to other teams

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Speaker 1: hurts me a bit to hear him say that, because

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Speaker 1: as much as you want to find joy in this career,

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Speaker 1: this job that is playing football professionally, it's a flipping gift,

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Speaker 1: is a blessing, like it is the greatest thing in

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Speaker 1: the world, in my opinion, And it's not always gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun. In fact, more often than not, it's it's

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Speaker 1: fun for him was when you're hosting up the AFC

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Speaker 2: But that's after.

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Speaker 1: All the work, all the stress, all that everything you've

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Speaker 2: Honestly, when you look back on it, that's what made

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Speaker 1: Like that was the whole point of of it being fun,

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Speaker 2: Let's just look at this.

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Speaker 1: You and the point zero zero one percent of people

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Speaker 1: even if you can't find it fun, let's just look

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Speaker 2: You're making almost fifty million year beyond that.

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Speaker 1: Like again, like this is about a competitor, Like you

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Speaker 2: This thing's not over yet. I mean that's how I

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Speaker 1: So I hate to hear these words because people start

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, because I think he's a competitor.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this all along, and Pete Prisco tried

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Speaker 1: to rail against me for sam it and he defends

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Speaker 1: the Bengals organization because a couple people in the organization

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Speaker 2: So he's like, oh, I'm not gonna get them more

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Speaker 2: to him. But the truth is like, and I know

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Speaker 2: Bengals fans gon upset when I say this.

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Speaker 1: It's not just me Sands Boomera size and one of

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Speaker 1: your owners said this, it's a cheaper organization and despite that,

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Speaker 1: they've still been able to put together.

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Speaker 2: Good rosters at times. This year is an example of that.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, with the borough injury, it held back the chance

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Speaker 1: I'm not giving up hope. It's not over till it's over.

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Speaker 1: You know, they still have a chance if things go

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Speaker 1: Like there's still some things there for them.

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Speaker 2: But I hate.

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Speaker 1: Hearing this from Burroughs from a sheer standpoint that it's

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Speaker 1: not relatable. There's so many people out there who are

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Speaker 1: struggling in a variety of ways, and yeah, your adversities

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Speaker 1: are tough because it's your body, or it's you know,

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Speaker 1: what people are saying about you, or maybe frustrations with

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Speaker 1: what the organization's doing. But man, just let's just stay

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Speaker 1: back and look at this from standpoint. Holidays coming up,

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Speaker 1: families who don't have much, you know, kids who aren't

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Speaker 1: going to have anything, Like, you're very blessed to be

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Speaker 1: in the position you are, like fun Like, I just

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Speaker 3: Man, Ain't that's heavy? That's heavy right there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, he also could have just

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Speaker 4: you know, is it you know, is there like personal

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Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Of everything, so like he could have been having a moment,

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Speaker 4: and you know, upon further review, maybe realizes, Yeah, not

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Speaker 3: His Like, nonetheless, he was candid and he was transparent. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean when when guys aren't transparent, we got a

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Speaker 3: But nonetheless, he told us how he was feeling. And

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Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna because that's got to be

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Speaker 4: the like, the mental part of it, knowing that every

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Speaker 4: like every year something comes up with him seemingly like there's.

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Speaker 3: You know, knee injuries. That's got to be frustrated. Going

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Speaker 3: all the way back to all and healthy, that's got

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Speaker 3: to be frustrating, And it just is, it is what

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Speaker 3: you just can't stand there. Have you ever been great

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Speaker 3: at something? And no, you weren't as great as you

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Speaker 3: once were. No, And then you see things like kind

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Speaker 2: As great as you were.

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't know how deeply he's looking into what

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Speaker 3: he's feeling and what that response you know, was based

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I get it. I get the

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Speaker 3: that's very there's very real realities out here, and the

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Speaker 3: reality of it is is wind loser draw, You're You're

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Speaker 3: going to be fine financially, you know, and stable financially speaking.

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Speaker 3: But I also look at it from the standpoint of,

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Speaker 3: again being a competitor. When you have results that go

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Speaker 3: your way for so long, you get you get a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit used to it.

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Speaker 3: Like it it like you get I don't want to

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Speaker 4: He's probably used to. Missing the playoffs. Now say it's

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Speaker 3: Oh well, apparently, regardless of apparently, regardless of what he's

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Speaker 4: It is so sorry, So let me let me back away.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, that's a fine.

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Speaker 3: That's a tap on another ten bucks and kiss my ass.

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Speaker 3: God forbid, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna say here's what the fine is gonna be. Let

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Speaker 1: Jonas knocks on twelve twelve for being a little bitch.

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Speaker 3: Not today, yesterday? Yesterday? One? Though?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're scared of varn giving Jonas a participation trophies.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that he's is this sort of a

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go there because I don't I

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Speaker 1: Lot different when Carson Palmer gets drafted there and you know,

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Speaker 2: That was what our jersey was. I was like, when

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Speaker 3: how intense and how amazing that feeling was. But like

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Speaker 3: I guess when I left the game, You know, I

453
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Speaker 3: left the game with a whole lot on the table.

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Speaker 3: I could have rehabbed and came back and kept playing.

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Speaker 3: I was done. Like I didn't look at it like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I got to stay in football for as long as

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Speaker 3: I possibly can do. I was done. You know, moving on,

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Speaker 3: you're going to change professions, moving on, figure.

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Speaker 2: It out, would you say you live life with no regrets.

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Speaker 2: I have a few.

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Speaker 1: DA I was gonna say, because I feel like from

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Speaker 1: getting to know you, I feel like you live life

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 1: I do many things that are presented in front of you,

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Speaker 1: and you don't turn down. You're like, I'm gonna do this.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: But there are some things that I do regret where

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Speaker 3: made a better decision, stuff like that. But for the

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Speaker 3: You had a count who's a pimp?

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Speaker 4: Slap people like, oh, Oscar, why are you so grouchy?

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Speaker 3: I live in a trash can?

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Speaker 2: Who was that that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: The song is crazy Man, six am, three am. I

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Speaker 3: don't care four am unless you're still going from the

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Speaker 3: day before. If this is your new day song, you

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Speaker 3: got issues man, this is what you want to come

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Speaker 3: in like, this is this is how your line feels.

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Speaker 4: Coop's a big fant little Camara Coop.

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Speaker 2: How long have you been here working.

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Speaker 3: At Fox Sports Radio or tonight tonight?

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Speaker 2: Like four or five hours?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you're at the end of your work day, right,

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Speaker 3: sure so, meaning that if you weren't doing this show,

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Speaker 3: this is the end of your day, not the beginning. Correct, correct, Okay,

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Speaker 3: thank you, I've reached my case. He could get as

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Speaker 3: turned up as he'd liked to get because he's heading

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Speaker 3: home to do whatever it is, you know, get fired up,

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Speaker 3: take a sky high trip into the sky, out to

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Speaker 3: the outer beyond, go go visit the Milky Way.

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Speaker 2: To island, jump into a black hole. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: at the end. He could turn up.

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Speaker 4: We're just getting started. Come on, well, change that song.

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Speaker 4: I mean maybe the Bucks could have used a little

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Speaker 4: bit of that music last night.

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Speaker 3: They didn't have enough fight huh No, that's ah no,

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Speaker 3: it was the cream sickled uniform. I think they look

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Speaker 3: soft as hell, man, Damn do you really? Yeah? Man?

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Speaker 2: Huh with the don't you don't think they look cool? Dude?

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Speaker 9: I think?

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Speaker 1: I mean when I think about how you looked into

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Speaker 1: your Washington uniform. I'm like, do you look good in

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Speaker 1: the Tampa on. I never liked the Washington uniform really no,

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Speaker 1: like too. Let me ask you this, because you you

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Speaker 1: had like an iconic, maybe the greatest uniform there is

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Speaker 1: in college football or all all uniforms. Did you feel

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Speaker 1: like it was just like too much because you guys

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Speaker 1: are so simple at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I just didn't like it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like the way, I will say it when

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Speaker 3: we went to the old school ones with like the

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Speaker 3: mustard type pants and they had the seminal, Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: Indian spear on and it was super super like burnt

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Speaker 3: burgundy type. I love that one. For some read I

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Speaker 3: liked that one, but I didn't like the regular one.

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Speaker 3: I like the old cream sickles good good. I like

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Speaker 3: the old redskins.

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Speaker 2: There you go, I mean, because that's what it was.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. By the way, LaVar gave me permission, So

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Speaker 3: I mean I didn't have to give you permission. That's

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Speaker 3: just the name of the team and what the uniform

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Speaker 3: was for that team. You can't say, oh, that was

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Speaker 3: the commander's uniform during that time because they weren't the commander.

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Speaker 3: So I can point out that Brady grew up an

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Speaker 3: Indians fan.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: You could point out the fact that I was an

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Speaker 3: Indian my entire career up until no kidd in college. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my little league team, my first team, I was a Brave,

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Speaker 3: second team, I was a Redskin. The second team, I

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Speaker 3: was a Chief. Then I went to high school, which

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Speaker 3: was our we had. You know, back in the day

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Speaker 3: before all of this craziness, your youth league actually was

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Speaker 3: supposed to feed into your school district, your high school team.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if people if that even.

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Speaker 3: Still exists these days because all everything that goes on

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Speaker 3: North Iales, Indians, Westview Braves, Redskins, Chiefs. You feed up

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Speaker 3: by the time you finish. You go into high school,

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Speaker 3: and all of us played together, and the teams that

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Speaker 3: played together, we want to stay title. My freshman year

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Speaker 3: of high school, that was it. I never had a

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Speaker 3: quarterback ever again in college, not in the Pro dam Eli,

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Speaker 3: but I wasn't with him long enough to get a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. I missed that that one year Wow, there

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Speaker 3: you go.

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Speaker 2: The quarterback.

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Speaker 3: All right, everybody got it.

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Speaker 2: It's all on the quarterback. Never had I had a

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Speaker 2: quarterback my freshman year.

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Speaker 3: Greatest high football player I've ever seen in my life

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Speaker 3: played both ways and we want stay tighted.

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Speaker 4: Ok.

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Speaker 1: I used to cut hold on, hold on last time

658
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I checked. When you had posted like high school highlights

659
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: of yourself, you were a damn good running back. Yeah,

660
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and so you're blaming your quarterback because you didn't have

661
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: a service of quarterback after your freshman year.

662
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: Well know it was crazy.

663
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: My senior year, we had a great quarterback, Brett Zivich,

664
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: and he ended up going to to an Ivy League school.

665
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: He's like, bro, he's like split a night Adam type, smart,

666
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: like like super brilliant dude. That was a brilliant, brilliant dude,

667
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: Like super brilliant like me, Like we used to play

668
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: chess all the time. He's super smart dude. But he

669
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: hurt his shoulder. He hurt his shoulder mid season and

670
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: he tried, he tried to get us. If he was healthy,

671
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: we would have went undefeated. My my senior year, we

672
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: had two losses. It was against the same team.

673
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: Who was tackling you when you were a running back then.

674
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 3: I mean we played football. Bro, there's some dudes. There

675
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: were some big dudes. I was we were big as

676
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: hell is running back. Yeah, and I was fast and fast.

677
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: I saw it and I was quick, So it was yeah,

678
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: I know.

679
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: I mean.

680
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 2: People tackled me. They tackled me. I think you let them.

681
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Let nobody tackle you. Wouldn't, you would hate to play.

682
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: I would have held you to a higher standard.

683
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: Damn.

684
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: I'd been looking at you in the huddle and be like, hey,

685
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: you got you got to you got a carryus, LeVar.

686
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: It's all you man, I mean carry I did. God dang, hey,

687
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: hey it's still not enough.

688
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: I punt it.

689
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: I can't. You gotta do even more. I drove the bus.

690
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: You gotta do even more. Son. I packed the equipment.

691
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: You were the punter too, Yeah, the equipment. In my eyes,

692
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: I did every hot the equipment I did. Bruh. I

693
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: did everything. I gave my teammates. I gave my You

694
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 2: gave the water. You were the water boy too. I did.

695
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 4: I did.

696
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: I made sure the bug juice was you know what,

697
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 2: that's a ten dollars fine, tar am taking this. You're

698
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: embellishing this and lie and that's all of us. But

699
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: I was an Indian while I was doing it.

700
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: Back to the original point and you know what, that's

701
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: that's that's so it's okay. I picked up the equipment, yeah,

702
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: all of it. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Uh, Atlanta, they they,

703
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what they proved last night.

704
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 2: They proved that Kyle Pitts can work.

705
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about that? He finally showed up. He looked

706
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 3: pretty good, Like, oh my gosh, he's unstoppable. Like just

707
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: get him in space and maybe he could do the

708
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: things that big receivers that are athletic can do.

709
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 4: Did you hear the Jon Robinson post game that he's

710
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: getting heat for though? He was on talking to Amazon

711
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: Prime afterwards and they were just asking him about, you know,

712
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 4: style of play, where'd you learn to play like that

713
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: something along those lines, and he dropped a oh.

714
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, just growing up, we played smear the you know what, yeah,

715
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: the Q smear the air and uh, I mean he

716
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: get in trouble. Like I said, we just had a

717
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 3: whole entire conversation about you could call like if that's

718
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: what your team was, that's what your team was, if

719
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: that's what your game was that's what your game was.

720
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: Look, that was the game.

721
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: I didn't if you asked twenty random people that played

722
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 3: that game when they were growing up, what's the name

723
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: of the game. Did you guys play growing up?

724
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 9: Yes?

725
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 3: I did, Yes, I didn't.

726
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: I had no clue when I was playing it it

727
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: was offensive or that it would be deemed defensive.

728
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: It was called what was it called free for all

729
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: or smear to the smear the air.

730
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was called.

731
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: Nobody had any like ill intentions or or malice or

732
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I can't believe you said that, Like,

733
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: shut up, So what it was called?

734
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

735
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: I had no clue.

736
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: Come on, man, as said, you guys didn't call it

737
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: that or you didn't play that.

738
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 3: No, we played it. I just didn't know that that

739
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: they were playing tether ball out here, Like they didn't

740
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: play smear air.

741
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: They were playing ball that sound like a growing up

742
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: Callie type things to the beach.

743
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: When I first got here, I was like, what in

744
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: the sam hell are these kids? Don't Unfortunately I can

745
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: confirm as a Cali kid about the tether ball.

746
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: That is weird.

747
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 3: Man.

748
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: I was like, my kids were coming home like and

749
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: you gotta and I my I got.

750
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: I got them a mobile tetherball deal, like you put

751
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: the water in the bottom, build put the put the

752
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: pole in it, put the ball in the string on there.

753
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 3: They got good at it because they you know, my

754
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 3: son would break down and cry when he'd lose. My

755
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: daughter was beating the hell out of everybody. Such a

756
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: dumb game.

757
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: It's so dumb.

758
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: Punch the ball around. Another person punched the ball back around,

759
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: like like what place near the air? Now you're gonna

760
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: learn some character people, you know. You know, I think

761
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: tetherball is it's woke. It's a woke speedbag.

762
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 8: Woke.

763
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, like boxers work the speedbag and then well why

764
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: is it woke? Well, just it's very very soft, you know,

765
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: they don't it was.

766
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: It was.

767
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: It was actually considered a British game, tetherball that makes

768
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: sense from from the eighteen eighties.

769
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: It was a transition from uh like volleyball kind of.

770
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: It's so whack, it's so wid.

771
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: I used to watch I walk my kids to school and.

772
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: I stand there and watch them play the game during

773
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: you know the time before you go into the classroom.

774
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: I'd be like, just off to my own thoughts like

775
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: I'd be looking at the parents like you soft mother efforts.

776
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: I think they stopped hanging it up at my school

777
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: because nobody played just this was grade school. Though this

778
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: was grade school. Oh, there was a ton of kids

779
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 3: playing it, a ton of kids. I'm like, get over

780
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: there and throw the football, run the football and do

781
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: things with a football.

782
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: I didn't even see a football. I ain't see no football.

783
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: Well the tether ball.

784
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: Well, b Jean Robinson, you are you're forgiving uh, well,

785
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: he's any You should be a nationally recognized person apologized.

786
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: Just why you gotta apologize for what you do? So

787
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 3: the next thing you're going, he's gonna have to apologize

788
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: for being a good running back. What he's gonna have

789
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 3: to apologize being black?

790
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 8: Like?

791
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: What what else you gotta apologize for?

792
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: It seems like, hey, it seems like a good dude.

793
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: You know it was, you know, very very nice, very humble,

794
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 4: and drop that and then afterwards I had to apologize.

795
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: But that's crazy, Todd Bowles had Tampa Bay should have

796
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 4: to apology, should especially if you had a minus six.

797
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 4: Todd Bowles spoke after the game, and he was not

798
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: very thrilled with his team's performance and basically put it

799
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 4: on the lapse of the players.

800
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 6: It's inexcusable if you don't make excuses. We you got enough,

801
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 6: you got care enough for it, got something to you.

802
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 6: It's more than a job good. How well do you

803
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 6: know your job? How well can you do your job well?

804
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 6: You can't sugarcoat it was incusable and because it's for

805
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 6: no excuse for it.

806
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 3: And that's what you're telling them a lot. I'm really

807
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: not sure at this point.

808
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 6: You've seen everything in the season. You know, the coaches

809
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 6: have done everything they can do. This is a player

810
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 6: driven team. In the last four or five weeks, you

811
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 6: got to execute and they got to hold each other accountable.

812
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 6: As a coach, you're gonna sit there till you blue

813
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 6: in the face until they start holding each other accountable

814
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 6: and doing the little things right. And that's not everybody.

815
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 6: They we're talking about a small select few, but the

816
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 6: small select few is what's getting us beat. And until

817
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 6: that happens, it's not going to get right. So we

818
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 6: got to get up and go to work tomorrow. No

819
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 6: matter how bad today looks. You got to put it

820
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 6: behind you, and we got to win the last three game.

821
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: We know that.

822
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: Now, that's much better.

823
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: For contrast, I comprehended the second message the first one

824
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 3: I would have.

825
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what he said. There's

826
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: too many, too many beats. I know there was I

827
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: know it was in there.

828
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: I know I know Buck was in there. And I

829
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: do know that those were the two main words that

830
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: we're we're getting bleeped out is bucking in an ick.

831
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: I think there's an hang on the end of one

832
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: of them.

833
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well with the buck bucking you now bucking

834
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: you added the eye and get buck.

835
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: Can I give you guys some some stature. So Tampa

836
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: Bay was fourteen in the fourth quarter one point. They

837
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: couldn't get off the field on a third and twenty eight.

838
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: They couldn't get off the field enough fourth and fourteen.

839
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, when you give up the final fifteen points

840
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: of the game, that's that's rough. Like defensively, I mean,

841
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: they look and he's a defensive mind of guy. You

842
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 1: gotta be frustrated. And I'm not saying that the Bucks

843
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: offense and so he did enough too, because you get

844
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: to figure out a way at some point as well.

845
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: But man, and by the way, the penalties too, what

846
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: they have like over one hundred yards and penalties whatever

847
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: it was.

848
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: Nineteen I think they got called for nineteen phenomenaken something

849
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 4: along the lines.

850
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

851
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: It's like, and you still can't find a way of

852
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: winning that game. I get the frustration as a coach.

853
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny.

854
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: I talked to a couple guys are coaching the league earlier.

855
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: And one of them said to me, they go the

856
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: league has and the media around the league, it feels

857
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: like they don't hold players accountable anymore.

858
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: Aid that's interesting. I was like, what makes you kind

859
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: of say that.

860
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, when it comes down to it,

861
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: when anything is happening on the field and it's not

862
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: working out, the coach gets fired or the coach needs

863
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: to be fired. It's to coach. It's this, which I

864
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: kind of thought, Okay, hold on a second, Like that

865
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: is when it comes down to it, really what your

866
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: job is as a coach, Like you're not putting your

867
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: body in harm's way, so it's your job to get

868
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: that player ready. If he's not getting ready yet, it's

869
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: part of your resume, Like you're not out there doing it,

870
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: so it's kind of on you as a coach to

871
00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: take some of that blame.

872
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: But do you guys feel like you know, the media

873
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: doesn't really blame players quite as much anymore. We see

874
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: it a collapse like that, if you will.

875
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: They're fanboys, they're afraid. Yeah, they're afraid because they know.

876
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: But I'm asking you guys, like, do you guys look

877
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: at that on you who do you blame? Do you

878
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: blame top? You're asking me who do?

879
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: I think the blame belongs to everyone to be honest, like, dude,

880
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: does the coach deserve more? Yes?

881
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: The coach, in my estimation, deserves more.

882
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: I believe when a team loses it's because and more

883
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: often than not, all things given the pro level, Yes,

884
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: if you're losing games, it's more so because of coaching

885
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 3: than it is than it is players. But are the

886
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: players to blame?

887
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 7: And in some.

888
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: Regards yes, Now if you're getting if you're talking about

889
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: sometimes in college or sometimes in high school, all things given,

890
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: I can say, for for what it's worth, sometimes the

891
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: joe versus the pros it outweighs it. You're not going

892
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: to out coach a team that has studs at every

893
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 3: level on their team and you don't. That's not gonna happen.

894
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: But all things given in the pros, like we create

895
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: these differences between the players and their levels and their

896
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: values their value. But I think it's the pros. You

897
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: have a draft, you get an opportunity to build your

898
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 3: roster the way you want to build it. You hire

899
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: the coaches you want to hire. All things are created

900
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: equal as it applies to the pro.

901
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 2: So if you're.

902
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 3: Losing, I think it's more on the management that the

903
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: GM on what players they're picking, and the coach on

904
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 3: how the coaching staff is preparing them to play.

905
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 4: I mean, what about in this case in particular, because look,

906
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: their receiving corps finally got healthy.

907
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 3: It was a short week.

908
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: You're against a team that's done, I mean Atlanta's got

909
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 4: I mean nothing going, and you gagged away that game

910
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 4: and Baker Mayfield took accountability for it afterwards. It's like

911
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 4: I like, I look at last night and I go

912
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 4: that that feels like a players type thing. And Todd

913
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 4: Bowles's frustration. I think he's probably just at his wits end, going, look, man,

914
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: we are struggling for some Like if you would have

915
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: told anybody, hey, week fifteen of the season, Carolina is

916
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 4: in first place in that division. They'd be like wait, what,

917
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: like that shouldn't happen And and we talked to Albert

918
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 4: Burn he made the point, I think a couple of

919
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 4: weeks ago where he said, you know, one of the

920
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 4: names to watch when it comes to you know, the

921
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 4: coaching cycle on a potential hot seat is Todd Bowles

922
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: in Tampa. It's like, all right, And I think Todd

923
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: Bowles calling his team out it probably looks at this

924
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: as like, hey, this is the last or like this

925
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 4: is the.

926
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: Wake up call.

927
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: If you can't if you can't wake up from this

928
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 4: and realize we'ren't a bad spot, then then there's going

929
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 4: to have to be some changes here.

930
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 3: Maybe he's going to be the guy. But why is

931
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: it that that's where you get to with your players?

932
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: That's that would be the question I would ask. How

933
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: do you get to that point of where where you

934
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: are blaming your players for what's taking place at you

935
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: Q like.

936
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll answer I'll answer that simply like sometimes

937
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: I feel like the media is the only place where

938
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: you can get a hold of them. It's almost as

939
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a tactic that it's not just

940
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's in college too. You see coaches

941
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: at times call players out to the meeting. It's like funny,

942
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: it's because oftentimes it's the only way for them to

943
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: kind of feel that pressure of them having to see

944
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: it over and over and over again. And then maybe

945
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: there's some other people who kind of start to pile

946
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: on or they start to look at some of that,

947
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, performance, and they they realize, like, oh, the

948
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: player needs to pick his stuff up. The coach behind

949
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: the scenes, when he knows the effort that the player

950
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: is putting in, and that's I think part of the

951
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: hard thing is it sounded like Todd Bowles was trying

952
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: to communicate that to people, like there's some guys who

953
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: need to come along. And Todd Boles is a former player,

954
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: and I would agree with him in that sense, like

955
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: the best teams are always player driven teams.

956
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: The coach can only do so much.

957
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: He's not out there playing, and he's surely not, you know,

958
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: going to be in the players meeting rooms after hours

959
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: when you should be in there watching film where guys

960
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: should be going and getting treatment. And that's and I

961
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: think it's frustrating last night considering, you know, you get

962
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: all your receivers back, you finally get the combination of Evans,

963
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, ameca Abuca, and you had McMillan back, like finally,

964
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: and it ends up still not amounting to enough when

965
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: it's all said and done. And another thing that's odd is,

966
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 1: you know, they had their bye week at a really

967
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: good point in the season. You know, they're at the

968
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: halfway point. They had two losses, They've only had one

969
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: win since their bye week. They are one in five

970
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: in their last six, Like this is a tremendous skit,

971
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: and don't and then spare me, like, hey, they really

972
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: didn't beat anyone in the beginning. Like I know, they

973
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: lost to Philly as a one score game was close.

974
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: They beat Seattle, they beat a San Francisco team it's

975
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: got a winning record, and they got blown out by

976
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Detroit and Detroit. But like, they've got a couple of

977
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: good wins in there, and it seems like as their

978
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: schedules picked up, they've struggled to be able to find.

979
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 2: Ways of closing out some of those games.

980
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: And I just I mean, man, the only the only

981
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: good thing in their favor is they got Carolina twice,

982
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: who's who's you know. I think that's they're kind of

983
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: like a week in week out. Some weeks they're great,

984
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: some weeks they're not so great. And then Miami who's

985
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: been resurgent, but they at least have a shot of

986
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: trying to win out the rest of the way and

987
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: we'll see things where things fall.

988
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: I still think that comes back to coaching because it's

989
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: the culture I really do.

990
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: And you're saying you want to bulls fire. No, it's

991
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: not what I'm saying. That is not what I said.

992
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: It's not what I'm saying.

993
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 3: I think it is when when you're talking about you're

994
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: a choosing who your employees are using them, and you're

995
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: trusting them to go out there and do Like if

996
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 3: you're in the business world and you hire a head

997
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 3: hunting company to go out there and hire you a CEO,

998
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 3: hire you an executives, hire you sales forces and stuff

999
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: like that.

1000
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: They have a job to do.

1001
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: You have the final sign off on the team that

1002
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: you bring on and that you employ. They put together

1003
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 3: the strategies, they put together the plans, and their job

1004
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 3: is to take what it is that your business model

1005
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 3: is and what you're trying to do and sell it

1006
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: and impact the bottom line positively. If you do not

1007
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: do that, the person first of to start with firings

1008
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: with the team within the team, because you're going to

1009
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: try to figure out if you can execute better and

1010
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 3: get better results. But before before long, whoever it is

1011
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 3: that hire the people to hire this team of people,

1012
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 3: they're going to lose their job and ultimately they're going

1013
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 3: to be held the most accountable by the business. It's like,

1014
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 3: why would you unless they're the owner. Unless they're the

1015
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: owner of the business and they they did this. You

1016
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: can't hold yourself. You can, but you're not going to

1017
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: fire yourself anything anybody. But maybe you should. Maybe you should.

1018
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Because that's your that's your decisions that led to the results.

1019
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 3: That's how I feel about the pros whatever it is

1020
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: that that GM has done, and GM and the coaches. Now,

1021
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: if you're saying I didn't sign off on these guys

1022
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 3: being put on our roster, this is not the type

1023
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 3: of guys I want on my team. Like you're talking

1024
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: about you can identify guys. I never identified a guy

1025
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: that was a self driven, a leader.

1026
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: A good dude. Maybe he was a Christian dude, whether

1027
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: he was like just a you know.

1028
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: For why that's mad and as I never saw a

1029
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: dude that was a solid dude that turned into not

1030
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 3: being a solid dude.

1031
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta give a little to to get a

1032
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: little bit more. Sometimes you gotta take less to get

1033
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: it more. Like maybe that that guy.

1034
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: Isn't as good as this guy over here. Maybe he's

1035
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: not quite as talented as this guy, but he's a

1036
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: better guy. He's going to be a leader in your

1037
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: locker room. Now, if you're going to sacrifice that, you

1038
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 3: gotta find what the balance is on that, because if

1039
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: you get too many guys that aren't into being on time,

1040
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: aren't into going and taking care of their bodies and

1041
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 3: being in the training room and being a good resource

1042
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: in the in the meeting rooms and different things like that,

1043
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 3: and making sure guys aren't making bad decisions as they

1044
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: grow into being men.

1045
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: That's your choice. You make that choice.

1046
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 3: You get an opportunity to interview these guys and figure

1047
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 3: out if you want to bring them into your your

1048
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: locker room and into your building.

1049
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: That's your choice.

1050
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, but don't they have to be if they're being

1051
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: Because Todd Bowles is making it seem like some of

1052
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: these guys are cutting corners and maybe being a little lazy, Like.

1053
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: Isn't that in that on you?

1054
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: That's in your resume.

1055
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 3: If you let me tell you something, you don't start

1056
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: being lazy at the pro level, somebody can tell you, yeah.

1057
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: He's a little lazy from time to time. That's that's

1058
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: how it is. That's how it is.

1059
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: Do you understand the amount of scrutiny like that players

1060
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 3: get when they're coming into the league. They look at

1061
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 3: so especially if you're a draft pick. But again, do

1062
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 3: you get lazy as scouts? Are you lazy when you're

1063
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: bringing in free agents?

1064
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: What is important to you? Is it there forty time

1065
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: or is it their character?

1066
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that this is the case here,

1067
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 4: but there are situations where all of a sudden, the

1068
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: guy gets paid and next thing you know, you know,

1069
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 4: you're talking about one person. Well I'm just I'm just

1070
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 4: like that SAIDs one person. But that's not on the

1071
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: organization for paying him. That's on that guy for getting paid.

1072
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden talking you're talking about

1073
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 4: one person. That's like, that's what we're talking about.

1074
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: If if a team effort isn't what it supposed to

1075
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: be and then collectively, you start hearing about a group.

1076
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 3: He said, it's not a large group, but a small group. Well,

1077
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: that group is large enough where they're not winning games,

1078
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: So you can't say how small. You're not going to

1079
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: say one person is the reason why we're not winning. No,

1080
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 3: he said, one person from top from play to play,

1081
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 3: like and this play is this person, and that play

1082
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: is that person.

1083
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 7: Like.

1084
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: Okay, if you put it together, how many guys do

1085
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 3: you have not doing what they're supposed to do. I

1086
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: don't put that on all the Oh he got a

1087
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 3: big concerts, Well maybe it would have to be seven.

1088
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: By the way, Meqita tools in the home depot or

1089
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 4: built with shortcuts designed for the toughest jobs, is the

1090
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: choice for pros when the job calls for the best

1091
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,960
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Speaker 3: By the way, I forgot to mention this to you

1094
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: guys earlier.

1095
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is today?

1096
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: It's a football Friday? Is all right? Come on, Johns

1097
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: get this hips Jonnas yeah right, Jonas, Yeah, Stick Friday.

1098
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: Come that's so lazy.

1099
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: It's late.

1100
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 9: Sticks come off, sticks, Come on, come on, Mark, you

1101
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 9: sing the song Come on, Mark, come on man, I'm

1102
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 9: gonna kill you.

1103
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna kiss your boy.

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Speaker 2: Come on, Mark, come on, come on, come on Friday,

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Speaker 2: Mark Shall Friday Football rock them.

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Speaker 8: Off.

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00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: I can feel it is a football Friday. Here, two

1108
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: pros and a cup of Joe.

1109
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 4: Edition of In case Wadon's wins, we got our picks

1110
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 4: against the spread.

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00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: And gentlemen, this three hours.

1112
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: Up next though, I mean maybe.

1113
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 4: Some he's got more to worry about than just whether

1114
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 4: or not they're gonna be on the field this upcoming

1115
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: week in the NFL.

1116
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 3: We'll get into that for you right here on FSR.

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00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,720
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Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

1135
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 7: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and

1136
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 7: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific

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00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,239
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00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: Your issues, Your issues are so real? Jonas Strov, Oh

1139
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: my gosh, did I just hear you say that?

1140
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: By the way, it is two pros and come Joe

1141
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio.

1142
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: No, it's two pros and one hook.

1143
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: Dang god it.

1144
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: Like wow, what you're just saying?

1145
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Speaker 8: Right?

1146
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: Can we change the Can we change the name of

1147
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: the show to to prosen Ho?

1148
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 8: Ho ho?

1149
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 3: What was a guy on Twitter that one time was

1150
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: like more like two a holes and a cup of sang.

1151
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,800
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Speaker 4: Makda built to be the best available at the home depot,

1156
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: how pros get more done. We are going to talk

1157
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 4: about a a nice little hire in the world of

1158
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 4: football that that's going to pay dividends down the stretch

1159
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 4: for some team in the world of football. We'll get

1160
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 4: into that for you in about twelve minutes from now,

1161
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 4: but right now, models, it is time.

1162
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: What are you looking at? Ai Models?

1163
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: Yes, bruh, Matt bores Man. I look, bro, I just

1164
00:56:55,560 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 3: saw Ai Model. I understand why. It's very close. I mean,

1165
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 3: would you rather have a fake ten or a real three?

1166
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I think he's I think

1167
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 3: he's spinning some knowledge, guys, you know.

1168
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 4: What I mean?

1169
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: Oh bit? All right, right now it's time for this

1170
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: number winner winning.

1171
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: Here's all illnesses it really does. I'm going to win.

1172
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: It's Quinn's wins, that's right.

1173
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, yeah, we uh we We were back

1174
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: at five hundred, folks. We did it five and three

1175
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: last week, got us back and had some winners. Obviously

1176
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: that Mac Championship between Western Michigan and the under that

1177
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: one duke won that one.

1178
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: We had Georgia as well.

1179
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: UH number of winners UH losers though, man, we had

1180
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: the under of the Big Ten Championship.

1181
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: That was a good one.

1182
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: But we're back to five hundred on the season as

1183
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: we enter into Bowl season at fifty five fifty five

1184
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: and three, so we don't have much to pick from

1185
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: this week, although Jonas did me into having to do additional.

1186
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: Picks that I wasn't really prepared for. But here we go.

1187
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: Let's start off with one of the greatest rivalries in

1188
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: all of sport, Army Navy, and this one traditionally is

1189
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: one that you think it's gonna be a more low

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00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: rist scoring game, not so fast over under a set

1191
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 1: at thirty eight and a half, that's very low.

1192
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: These are two teams that are very capable of scoring.

1193
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: In particular Navy that's now kind of I want to

1194
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: call this like an era air raid passing attack. But

1195
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: their quarterback play Corvath averages about twelve throws per game.

1196
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: That's four times.

1197
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: More than Army for you math majors out there, But

1198
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: this is an offense that is a little bit more

1199
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: balance of.

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00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: What we're accustomed to seeing there at Navy.

1201
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 3: Army.

1202
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: On the other hand, kill Helms their quarterback. He's leading

1203
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: rush over thousand yards of this season. It's pretty typical.

1204
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: But I think the over in this game, I think

1205
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: both offenses should be able to score enough points to

1206
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: hit the over. I don't see either team being conservative

1207
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: in this one. In the rivalry game, and also ride

1208
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 1: with Jeff Monkin an Army at plus six and a half,

1209
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: I think they keep it within the number. He's been

1210
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: known for being able to pull off some of these

1211
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: upsets too over the years. So go Army beat Navy

1212
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: straight up, outright. But I'll take plus six and a

1213
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: half in the over of thirty eight and a half.

1214
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: And then let's get to some of the games that

1215
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:21,479
Speaker 1: Jonas had.

1216
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: To bully me into.

1217
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: We got the LA Bowl and so Far Stadium down

1218
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: there in Boise State, taken on Washington. Boise was the

1219
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: Mountain West champs taking on a UDUB team that was

1220
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: eight and four. You know, good season, maybe some higher aspirations,

1221
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: led by their quarterback.

1222
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: Demon Williams Junior.

1223
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal player, although a little concern with the

1224
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: Michigan job opening a lot of ties back to Jedfish.

1225
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: He was a quarterback coach off the coordinator there back

1226
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: about ten years ago, and so maybe some concerns about

1227
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: Fish going to take this job after this Bowl.

1228
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: I wish I could tell you who the hell's playing

1229
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: in it, but we never really know.

1230
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: Opt outs, you know, and of course there's some players

1231
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: to get to warm ups or get into the game

1232
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: then decide to opt out of the exhibition game.

1233
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 2: So here's the play.

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01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: All right, you either don't play it, but if you

1235
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: want to have fun, take the over fifty two and

1236
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: a half. These teams can score some points, all right.

1237
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: Boise a bit more balanced, but Washington they could throw

1238
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: it all over the field. Jodah Coleman's a tremendous running back.

1239
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: He could tote the rock as well. But that's assuming

1240
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: that anyone actually plays in this game. But the over

1241
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 1: of fifty two and a half is probably the best play.

1242
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: And then finally the Cricket Bowl, South Carolina State versus

1243
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: Prairie View. That's right, I can't even find a line

1244
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: on this thing. So we're just gonna go. If you

1245
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: can bet it on Calshie, which I did. I did

1246
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: note that on Calshie South Carolina State it's a slight

1247
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: favorite according to their odds, and it's really the passing

1248
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: attack of South Carolina State taken on the more balanced

1249
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: rush attack of Prairie View. William Atkins, the quarterback for

1250
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: South Carolina State, good player, a good decision maker with

1251
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: the football. His go to targets Jordan Smith has almost

1252
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty yards on the year receiving, and

1253
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: on the flip side of that, you've got previews. Quarterback

1254
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: Cameron Peters also can can throw the football around a

1255
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: little bit, but again more of a balance rushing attack

1256
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: and offense. I like South Carolina State to win this thing.

1257
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: I do think it's going to be close, but I'll

1258
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: take South Carolina State on the money line, whatever wherever

1259
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: you want to bet it.

1260
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: I will say, what's a.

1261
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: Little bit sad about this is looking at Calshie's the

1262
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: volume for this game, only eight thousand dollars.

1263
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 4: Have been bet on this game so far on Calshi, Well,

1264
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 4: I think, I mean probably only about eight thousand dollars

1265
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 4: in tickets that have been sold to this game too.

1266
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't imagine that does it is.

1267
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: Being played at Mercedes Benz Dome in Atlanta, So you've

1268
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: got that going for you as well, noon Eastern time tomorrow.

1269
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: So do the math on that. And do you think

1270
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: it'll be any viewers in the West Coast tuning into

1271
01:01:59,240 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: this one?

1272
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 8: No?

1273
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 3: No, By the way, I don't even think it just

1274
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: sounds racist to me.

1275
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 4: I don't think there's going to be viewers on the

1276
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 4: West Coast watching the LA Bowl either the bucked up

1277
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 4: l A Bowl.

1278
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: Between well, mind you, the LA Bull is I believe

1279
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: one of the bulls going away. I think this might

1280
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: be its last year to rap.

1281
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: Wasn't this the Jimmy Kimmel Ball at one point too?

1282
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: It was also the Rob Gronkowski Bowl. I don't know that.

1283
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: I think the Arizona one was the Barstool Ball at

1284
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: some point, but it's held a bunch of names, so

1285
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: I think the problem with the Jimmy Kimmel Bull is

1286
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: everyone had to.

1287
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: Wear a mask in that work.

1288
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: That well, last bet for the weekend in Quinn's wins Heisman,

1289
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza is like minus two thousand to win it.

1290
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: He's your winner, he had the most moments. He's leading

1291
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: the number one team, in the country statistically can make

1292
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: an argument for it. Two call a bias, but it's not.

1293
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: Jeremih Love's the best player in college football. We just

1294
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: know how this award works. It goes to quarterbacks typically,

1295
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: and in this case, it won't go to Jeremiah Love,

1296
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: even though it probably should go to Jeremi Love. But

1297
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: my bet is that if you can go ahead and

1298
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: box it in, I will trifecta box. It'll most likely finish.

1299
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Mendoza won Diego Paviat two, Jeremiah Love

1300
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 1: at three, Julian saying at four, I think that's how

1301
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: it will probably finish. I'm a Heisman voter. That is

1302
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: not how I voted, but I'm not going to reveal

1303
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: my ballot. But minus two thousand, it's a sure thing

1304
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza will win the Heisman.

1305
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm certain that uh Love will have gotten one vote

1306
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 3: to have won the Heisman. I am certain of that.

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Speaker 4: I think I think there's three Heisman voters that work

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Speaker 4: here at Fox Sports Radio. I think Brady's won, Steve

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Speaker 4: Hartman's another, and I think Andy Furman's.

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Speaker 3: A Heisman voter. Oh nice, if I have that correct,

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Speaker 3: whyren't you a Heisman voter? Var, I don't get involved

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Speaker 3: with that. You Why would I be a Heisman voter.

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Speaker 3: I let guys like you handle that. He will thank you.

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Speaker 1: I could just text you, though, Var, So I'll see

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Speaker 1: what you do with that information. Let me see what

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Speaker 1: you got here. Let me see what you got here.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm not I don't know what to say. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I either let me not touch that. Yeah, I digress.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I was wrong now one I cannot say for sure.

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Speaker 4: One thing of note here, The Army Navy games is

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Speaker 4: six now, so I did see I did see that.

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Speaker 2: Army Okay, I like.

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Speaker 7: That like that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a three four point game

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Speaker 1: like that. That's how I would see these two teams

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Speaker 1: between Army Navy.

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Speaker 3: Yes tomorrow. I love the Army Navy game. So much fun?

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Speaker 2: Can we go?

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Speaker 1: I mean between like, I know, obviously LeVar, you're big

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Speaker 1: with the Vets. We've got a foundation works with vets too.

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Speaker 1: Like it would make sense if we could do a

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Speaker 1: Friday show and go. I talked to the a d

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Speaker 1: from from Army.

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Speaker 2: Why I know, Monk, I'll just reach out to Jeff.

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Speaker 3: He'd godly host US, but I'm also an Anapolitan. I'm

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Speaker 3: a former Anapolitan. So if it plays out one year

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Speaker 3: where we go and it's in Annapolis, we'd have a

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Speaker 3: really good time. I've never where did they play when

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Speaker 3: they play Army?

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Speaker 2: Is that in Philly? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That's in Philly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah the link, I mean, I think I think we

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Speaker 4: would be pretty good to go in Philly too. Anthony

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Speaker 4: Gargano and Lincoln Kennedy used to go every year. They

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Speaker 4: would go host a show from there. My guy aunt, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so I got linked. That'd be a big link, big link.

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Speaker 4: You shake that guy's hand. It's a humbling moment. Lincoln

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Speaker 4: Kennedy is massive? Is massive again?

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Speaker 3: What a good dude? Yeah, great dude. Man.

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Speaker 10: Oh, I think we need to figure that out. We will,

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Speaker 10: We'll figure out. We'll figure out way to get into

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Speaker 10: the games. By the way, speaking of the games, you

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Speaker 10: guys heard about Trainer Games. You got to go check

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Speaker 3: It is too Pros and a Cup of Joe.

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Speaker 4: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas

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Speaker 4: Knox with the up next some movement in the world

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Speaker 4: of football, one guy gone, another one arriving. We'll get

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Speaker 4: into that for you right here on FSR.

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Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of two Pros and

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Speaker 7: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 7: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific

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Speaker 7: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.