Speaker 1: Well, we are the authorities things R and ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: This is the R B Money Podcast. I'm Tank, this
Speaker 1: is Mr Ja Valentine. Were the authorities on R and
Speaker 1: B music and in the building to day. We got
Speaker 1: a friend, we got a brother, a philanthropist, a leader
Speaker 1: in the community. We got problem in the creative visage.
Speaker 1: Come on to build them. Man, Man, I feel this
Speaker 1: is smooth man. As much of a rapper as you are.
Speaker 1: Your vibe is R and B. Oh totally you are focused. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: R and B guy on the prize, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you know what. Just to be totally honest with you,
Speaker 1: the blues and the jazz and the R and B
Speaker 1: fellers have always been the ones that I finally hung
Speaker 1: the most away during my career, just because yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just more playerism on this side. And the rap guys
Speaker 1: they rap about ship and then it don't be all
Speaker 1: the way through, you know. They do songs like the
Speaker 1: police and call the police on you. They do songs
Speaker 1: like bitches and ship but holdes tricks. We're sharing everything
Speaker 1: and then we happen to do the same one. Just
Speaker 1: get the crime. I don't understand. It's like a weird
Speaker 1: place going R and B. It's just like, hey man,
Speaker 1: this is what it is. I say, what it is? Now?
Speaker 1: They don't touch this. This is we're doing. It's a toe,
Speaker 1: just a wave. I love I love her, I love
Speaker 1: her her, But come on, it's just always been that.
Speaker 1: And then you know, it's damn fooling through this ship.
Speaker 1: You know, just always been like, you know what, let
Speaker 1: me just stay where, I'm welcome right to me. Using
Speaker 1: since we're there, what is it about? What is it
Speaker 1: about wraps? When it comes to it being authentic or
Speaker 1: from a place that guys who are not authentic and
Speaker 1: from a place seem to be able to get away with.
Speaker 1: What are the things that they get away? Why are
Speaker 1: they allowed to in a sense, have we allowed it
Speaker 1: to just be entertainment for them? Um? I think? I
Speaker 1: mean bullshit? Alwaysselves like being extra, being over over over over.
Speaker 1: So you'll have some guy that will probably think that,
Speaker 1: you know, they may do things like well you know,
Speaker 1: I really believe this, but then the labels throwing gasoline
Speaker 1: on it, the managers and then women and the homies
Speaker 1: are throwing no, you gotta turn it up like you
Speaker 1: can shoot. Okay, I shot one person but now making
Speaker 1: it was like a seven, so they take that in
Speaker 1: the times order everything before and then it actually works,
Speaker 1: and then the fame comes and then you have to
Speaker 1: be that seven and you forget that, Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I was just doing this to get popping. You actually
Speaker 1: started believing the character that's created by the circle around you.
Speaker 1: People get lost in the circus and you forget that
Speaker 1: we're coming to look at the clowns, not be the clowns,
Speaker 1: and you're just getting lost. But do you feel like
Speaker 1: that's just entertainment altogether? Right? Like if you meet Marilyn Manson,
Speaker 1: he gotta be Marilyn Manson, right or not? I'm asking
Speaker 1: it depends, It depends. It depends on what what Marilyn
Speaker 1: Manson is selling, right Like me, I've understood that that's
Speaker 1: what he was on right, right, But if you see
Speaker 1: him and catch him out, he that's what he looks
Speaker 1: like when he's just doing what he's doing, like regularly.
Speaker 1: Like I saw him coming out of studio with Gucci
Speaker 1: man full ready whopped like I was right, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool. You know what I'm saying. It's like, so
Speaker 1: if you you I think I think they I think
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's for black people and
Speaker 1: white people is different. White people can actually create the
Speaker 1: character and becoming Black people are getting the character created,
Speaker 1: and then it's like they're fighting with if I'm really
Speaker 1: it or if I'm not, and it's just not it's
Speaker 1: just weird power struggle that come with being famous and
Speaker 1: not doing it the way you wanted to do it,
Speaker 1: if that makes any sense, not being a hundred percent
Speaker 1: authentic to what your brand and your mission is and
Speaker 1: all the time, Like when I met you, right, it
Speaker 1: was around the Molly Wood time, and I left that
Speaker 1: studio feeling like this nigga everything rapping about, right, because
Speaker 1: I was off of all kind of ship. Turned out
Speaker 1: a lot of fun at time, but I was just
Speaker 1: like and and that's the thing where I believe in
Speaker 1: the entertainment side of it, right, But I personally do
Speaker 1: appreciate when I meet somebody that's about their craft, right,
Speaker 1: if they kind of live in that space of like
Speaker 1: when when you meet a player, he all about the
Speaker 1: players ship and he's very player in real life, or
Speaker 1: if it's a nigg about you know, beating niggers up,
Speaker 1: popping his pistol, you meet him like, oh I feel
Speaker 1: the worl like I get it, like it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Like when I met fifty cent but I hung out
Speaker 1: with I was like, oh, fifty with all he with
Speaker 1: all of it. I think he got a little knife ony.
Speaker 1: You don't got me like that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got me like that? Huh Okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: That's the same way all the time. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: the same. The scary selling point isn't it's scary or
Speaker 1: detrimental in a sense to like because music is so
Speaker 1: influential and so powerful in terms of people wanting to
Speaker 1: be something or sing a thing that is successful and
Speaker 1: wanting to even if it's whatever it is, emulate the success.
Speaker 1: That's the tough part of it because if you're truly
Speaker 1: being yourself, you're not doing it to be emulated, and
Speaker 1: that's where the trouble ares. Like I feel like he's
Speaker 1: being himself. Of Course, when I was doing Mollywood stuff,
Speaker 1: I was just being myself. I didn't think I was
Speaker 1: like I'm about to change this and we're gonna have
Speaker 1: me to do it. That wasn't the play. I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about my day. So it is like it's a
Speaker 1: their line because me, just me personally, I got lost
Speaker 1: in it because the music was getting hot as fuck,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't that no more. I had stopped doing
Speaker 1: this ship maybe a year or two before anybody even knew.
Speaker 1: But it was like this character got big, he got big.
Speaker 1: I was having people like it was weird things where
Speaker 1: like the crowd is cracking, but I have some young
Speaker 1: dagger walk up to my man and I just took
Speaker 1: eight of them trying to get like you. I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 1: what do you mean that's not what no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're not doing that's after I handle my man. I
Speaker 1: hand niggas walked up to me, hand me. Hand niggas
Speaker 1: come up to me like, man, I made three million
Speaker 1: dollars that ship dropped nick ship boom, and I'm like, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what's up. But that means it's a gaggas high
Speaker 1: out of here tripping, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that's where I'm thinking about the effect, right because it's
Speaker 1: like yeah, like okay, yeah, I'm monetizing and I'm having
Speaker 1: and I'm really just telling my truth. So it's a weird,
Speaker 1: a weird line. But it's like Okay, well, what are
Speaker 1: you really here to do this? Mike is a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Guess we're using this for good. The people evil yourself.
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell people, and that's only a hip hop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hardly hip hop. It's hard to tell guys not
Speaker 1: to tell their story, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's like impossible to tell, you know, to tell in
Speaker 1: our tist how to paint what colors to you is
Speaker 1: because that story read is imprinted on his gift. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like whatever he went through, um,
Speaker 1: that's that's that was nourishing to what he's now projecting,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's hard
Speaker 1: to tell a guy like, man, you shouldn't told the
Speaker 1: gun and you shouldn't sell the be ship when you've
Speaker 1: when you've told it the gun and sold the ship.
Speaker 1: But so got him there. So it's like so it's
Speaker 1: like it's almost like, should guys be looking to grow
Speaker 1: out of it jay Z? But it's very hard to
Speaker 1: grow out of it. And it's in my opinion right
Speaker 1: and jay Z is a different story because jay Z
Speaker 1: was always a progressive rapper and he also came in
Speaker 1: the game as a grown man. Jay Z didn't catch
Speaker 1: didn't catch his wave until seven years old. He's talking
Speaker 1: about some of these kids who coming in a seventeen
Speaker 1: eighteen my house may be still in a mama house,
Speaker 1: are in the group whatever it is, and they're rapping
Speaker 1: about street rap. So and what we do know about
Speaker 1: the street is that the streets don't really grow. Right,
Speaker 1: we can all go back to wherever we're from and
Speaker 1: find the same ship going on that was going on
Speaker 1: there when we left. Right. So for jay Z, when
Speaker 1: I say being a progressive rapper, he was always rapping
Speaker 1: about business. And if the business at that time was
Speaker 1: the dope game, that's still a business. There's no yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no real business. And robbed the nigga shot up
Speaker 1: a couple of niggas. Are you know this bitch, and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. There's no real progression in that. Because
Speaker 1: now when this nigga starts rapping about being married, he
Speaker 1: actually looks soft. When jay Z says what's better than
Speaker 1: one billion? There two, which is still the same thing
Speaker 1: about being married, it sounds but when you got the
Speaker 1: dog gass nigga like, yeah, but I love her. What
Speaker 1: are you talking? I can't love nobody, right, That's a
Speaker 1: very hard space to live in, especially when your finance
Speaker 1: depends on it. That's the pial, right, that's the pial,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And like like, that's when
Speaker 1: it gets tricky. And that's where this lost thing happened,
Speaker 1: where you know, I know artists that went through it
Speaker 1: and and just I'm figuring out ship, like just figuring
Speaker 1: it out, like whoa. And I'm watching a lot of
Speaker 1: my my peers, like you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: I'm watching like Quo through the growing pains like that
Speaker 1: got lost in the bag chase. Do you get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You start looking at the let's let's just
Speaker 1: use the word analytics, since it's a good word. You
Speaker 1: look at the analytic and you see what people are
Speaker 1: buying into and sometimes you don't. You can't manage your
Speaker 1: way out of it, because this is what this is
Speaker 1: the cell, this is the you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I got I got eighty nine percent right here. You know,
Speaker 1: when I post these other things, I'm you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I get two percent over what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The fall off is real. But when I do this ship,
Speaker 1: I'm at eighty nine percent. Yeah, you can become a
Speaker 1: slave to that. You can become a slave to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I think you know what
Speaker 1: and this is this is funny. I'm having one of
Speaker 1: the moments. But that's probably why they always want to
Speaker 1: remember the time, Like you let us handle the books
Speaker 1: and then you do the talent. You're the talent. All
Speaker 1: of us have went through that time. That's problem. That's
Speaker 1: the part is probably why because as an artist, you
Speaker 1: still want to please no matter what nigga say. It's
Speaker 1: about you want your joint to come on in the room,
Speaker 1: light up. You want people, you want your ship, and
Speaker 1: it's nothing wrong with that. You shouldn't want to be
Speaker 1: booboo like I don't give a funk with nobody talking
Speaker 1: about you're not gonna ever sell me that. But that's
Speaker 1: the ones that we're the ones that understand both sides.
Speaker 1: You have to understand being a consumer and a motherfucking seller,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I feel like as a producer,
Speaker 1: you get that, so you can teeter the line. It's
Speaker 1: probably one you do better than the other, but you
Speaker 1: understand both sides as a writer and a producer, which
Speaker 1: most people don't know. Right, you are right, right, right.
Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't know, like your big records
Speaker 1: you produced. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: people didn't know that, you know, I mean, people didn't
Speaker 1: know that problem was a producer on like what you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like like these records you like,
Speaker 1: I'm actually win the studio and see you making beats. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But but aside from being
Speaker 1: a beat maker a producer, were you really in there?
Speaker 1: I mean turning things up, turning the knobs down. Okay, listen,
Speaker 1: this vocal ain't right. We gotta shift this. We need
Speaker 1: to put this on top of here. We need this
Speaker 1: type of you know what I mean, plug in on there,
Speaker 1: like that's full production, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: being in that space, like it was crazy. Man. When
Speaker 1: I first met you, I was like, Yo, this guy
Speaker 1: really is a Swiss army knife. Like this guy really
Speaker 1: a Swiss army knife. But I always wondered, right, and
Speaker 1: I feel like knowing you all these years now, I've
Speaker 1: kind of gotten my answer. I always wondered if it
Speaker 1: was going to be enough for you? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Like right, Oh yeah, I always wanted that from the
Speaker 1: from the day I met you. You know what's crazy.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is, like you know, y'all know, I
Speaker 1: was in the studio a lot. I'm twelve fourteen hour
Speaker 1: a day studio guy man, and it's like wow to
Speaker 1: stick my head out and say, wait a minute, a
Speaker 1: bunch of sig You get what I'm saying. And it
Speaker 1: all works the same way. You know, if you understand production,
Speaker 1: you understand writing, you know how to sell records, and
Speaker 1: you know how to make hits. If I want to
Speaker 1: sell it, I know not to send the vocal to
Speaker 1: make it real loud may get sucked up. It probably
Speaker 1: not even sound in the ask. I'm not given put
Speaker 1: them all. Make it so they can know what they've done.
Speaker 1: It that and then you know the ones like I'm
Speaker 1: on this one because they're gonna hear the difference when
Speaker 1: I sent it back. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying something. Learning
Speaker 1: when to do that has what sticking my head out
Speaker 1: has done, you know what I'm saying Like, And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have never known I wanted more than music because
Speaker 1: the thing is that's what shocking to mean that you
Speaker 1: said I never thought about nothing else than like, man,
Speaker 1: I just like doing music, Like I just want to
Speaker 1: sit in here and do the music. Maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to escape other ship, or maybe I know that
Speaker 1: this can change something. I just I don't know. Whatever
Speaker 1: it was. It was like if I got down time,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be sitting somewhere, I'd rather sit think
Speaker 1: where I got all my weapons, unless I'm sitting at
Speaker 1: the house or with the kids. Man ship and I
Speaker 1: can bring them, I can bring them. I can bring
Speaker 1: it here. So you mean I can I can play
Speaker 1: here here. Creative ship. Yeah, but it's other ships. You
Speaker 1: gotta learn to control all that because that's like it's
Speaker 1: get dangerous. It's just a bunch of lights going everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's like, then I'm not getting personal ship handled. Are
Speaker 1: I might be too when I go outside the personal
Speaker 1: I'm so personal that I'm not getting here. It's just
Speaker 1: finding that balance. It's what the nig had to even
Speaker 1: reach to reach that. So it's crazy that you saw that.
Speaker 1: I was just like just trying to so fine, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Whatever they could do, like we
Speaker 1: was always just figuring out something we you know, we
Speaker 1: did we just wrong. We did the wrong, like one
Speaker 1: wrong thing and we just didn't like the car before
Speaker 1: we didn't want wrong, which wasn't even that wrong, but
Speaker 1: we did some we did the wrong thing and just
Speaker 1: like I didn't like the way it felt like that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that type of wrong.
Speaker 1: So like let's just hustle here and there. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get it, just start bumping in ship. But you're
Speaker 1: taking that now, putting it to the studio off of
Speaker 1: one conversation with the homies and and then like um,
Speaker 1: the first two I was, I did myself. But then
Speaker 1: the one that paid, the homey that paid for the
Speaker 1: first guy to go, he was like, man, I should
Speaker 1: I what you if you want to go out? So
Speaker 1: he started putting it on it. You know, he's trying
Speaker 1: to seeing what I'm doing. And we all were homs anyway,
Speaker 1: Like he actually got a job, you know, doing it
Speaker 1: like that, so it ain't really shipped to him. So
Speaker 1: kept going, bro, We'll just start just learning how to
Speaker 1: work that ship. So from that point at twenty, when
Speaker 1: does it happen where you like, oh, ship that made
Speaker 1: some money somewhere somebody's offering me some real bread or
Speaker 1: I get that first radios being like when does it happen?
Speaker 1: From twenty like, how long until you get that breakthrough?
Speaker 1: Looking back now, relatively early, relatively early, within a three
Speaker 1: year span, ship we have figured out a program to
Speaker 1: where the like funking the studio, but let's get the equipment.
Speaker 1: You know, I got with ed my boy, we get
Speaker 1: to doing it. He had he had a little he
Speaker 1: had an idea it was the right entertainment if he
Speaker 1: was a little This was the first situation. He just
Speaker 1: wanted me to come be a producer for his entertainment thing.
Speaker 1: And it was like, well, look I learned ad that's brother.
Speaker 1: The fact that yeah, I'm like, I actually learned how
Speaker 1: to recourse. I'm recording them and I'm just rapping that
Speaker 1: night because they were like, man, you weak. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying them like, really was rapping. So I
Speaker 1: would do my ship at night, just practicing. But then
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, let's get pro to. Let's go let's
Speaker 1: just get an MPC. Let's go do this. You know
Speaker 1: that time home girls are put your set ont it was,
Speaker 1: you know, the different time. You know, and the other hustle.
Speaker 1: We're doing it. It's happening. The girl that's coming through,
Speaker 1: like no, I got this weekend. Let's just go in there.
Speaker 1: It's happening. Let's just come in. You love them, you know,
Speaker 1: like I mean, do you know what? You know what?
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's go get it, hold on, get it. Listen,
Speaker 1: they like they are appreciated, ladies, You are appreciate. That's
Speaker 1: how I survived for a minute when I first came
Speaker 1: to l Let's shout out to you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: to the to the you feel that, to car Bob,
Speaker 1: don't take care of me. Let's shout out to them.
Speaker 1: Come on, come on like us. They know women saying
Speaker 1: it first. Absolutely, they believe nothing is niggers. They take
Speaker 1: nothing that takes some actual winning for nothing that's built
Speaker 1: without a woman. Oh nothing, nobody. I think, how I
Speaker 1: go tell yourself that that's going on? And I would
Speaker 1: get that ship and it wouldn't know like any of that,
Speaker 1: you couldn't google it. So it's just like I just
Speaker 1: gotta just go through trialing there. Like the first beat
Speaker 1: I made on the NFC, I literally went through other
Speaker 1: people's songs and chopped sound and chopped Ship getting them
Speaker 1: all right, So we're working at Motherfucker. I'm learning. Once
Speaker 1: I learned how to do that, it was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I can record myself. Um, nobody was doing that at
Speaker 1: that time. It was just like I'm in the closet
Speaker 1: going crazy. Niggas was the word was spreading in the hood,
Speaker 1: like Niggas like nig over there we put together and
Speaker 1: you're not giving it to DJs or nothing yet. Man,
Speaker 1: we're going straight to the streets. We went it stepped,
Speaker 1: they diviudged the skin where it's like, look, we got
Speaker 1: some initial funding. Niggas had all put our money together.
Speaker 1: It was like, let's get the mixtape. Let's go buy
Speaker 1: this mini. We sell this mini. We can all make
Speaker 1: at least we can at least make twelve twelve thousand
Speaker 1: a month or something. We could all piece up and
Speaker 1: half that while we're doing this. So Ship make the music.
Speaker 1: I would probably engineer for niggas while niggas wasn't recording.
Speaker 1: We got it. We got our own studio at this
Speaker 1: time doing that. They selling CDs all day. Ship, We're
Speaker 1: so like thirteen thousands of Motherfucker's hand to hand and
Speaker 1: it really got to the radio, like, Yo, are you
Speaker 1: going to where you going by? Problem? Yeah? That's problem
Speaker 1: there because at that time I end up getting better
Speaker 1: than them because I just was in it so much,
Speaker 1: not because they weren't good. It was just I'm in
Speaker 1: the gym, right. So ship got a call from Yoyo
Speaker 1: I of nowhere. You know what I'm saying, like we're
Speaker 1: playing that song person, Yeah, songs called I'm a problem.
Speaker 1: That ship came on and it was like, whoa, that's
Speaker 1: all We're running around. We think it's cracking and going nuts.
Speaker 1: It's going crazy. I'm like, okay, we did we all
Speaker 1: it's going on. It's like, okay, that ain't enough, though,
Speaker 1: we gotta come on to another joint. I think now
Speaker 1: I'm like the only nigger out here that could really
Speaker 1: get them spikes because they seeing my team in the
Speaker 1: streets and I'm everywhere were it's like physically in the streets.
Speaker 1: So m l A. But then during that time though,
Speaker 1: from that time when we started with the NPC to
Speaker 1: that Terris Martin stumbles in my house through a drummer
Speaker 1: that we know, I know terrorist from us me getting
Speaker 1: that MPC and I know how to really work it.
Speaker 1: And so my boy Robert, who was a drummer, it's
Speaker 1: I mean, I got the snigger man Snigger he played
Speaker 1: for Snoop Dogg. This time, Sloop is the only thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying in the world. He's like
Speaker 1: on tour, he for to come on, He's gonna show
Speaker 1: you how to work it. I'm like, all right, man,
Speaker 1: he bring that nick in the walk in I never
Speaker 1: forget this and then walk and said it was kiss
Speaker 1: up y'all. So he's being his Snoop, but it's yeah,
Speaker 1: he like you got an MPC around going there, nigga.
Speaker 1: He always been that, you know, everything made. It was like, men,
Speaker 1: you can have that, my nigger, and then left, they
Speaker 1: can get that you a beat and then left. I said,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker thing, no way, I'm about three course. So
Speaker 1: I did the songs that I got the CD. Burn like, man,
Speaker 1: get that back to him. Yeah, he hear me, like
Speaker 1: I didn't you know how hard on the kiss I'm
Speaker 1: on a CD at this time? Nigger? It was like
Speaker 1: it got to him back you hard, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just never see nothing like that. I don't around
Speaker 1: to show you. I wouldn't play. Yeah, two thousand one.
Speaker 1: That's how I know tears. Wow. Uh we have been
Speaker 1: locked at the hip every every day sent that shouldn't crazy,
Speaker 1: and then here's this fifteen hundred comes from him. So
Speaker 1: I mean, laurens, I mean they know, we all just
Speaker 1: we've been through that time. Everybody was just grinding. So
Speaker 1: you saw the same people and the Tea has started
Speaker 1: becoming who he was. So respond to the other story
Speaker 1: where where in the streets working Now I'm starting to
Speaker 1: Tea like, man, come through, snoop, let me come through.
Speaker 1: I can get I can get. Beats all the corrupt
Speaker 1: grabbed me. He seen me in the sto udio. He like,
Speaker 1: what's up with you? I'm like, I justin't have been
Speaker 1: in the ship like this, just not. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: just because its levels the studio that was the studio.
Speaker 1: That's the other things. A lot a lot of nicks
Speaker 1: to be out here telling their girlfriend's day in the studio.
Speaker 1: Bro ain't quarte studio. But we had the studio studio
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, it's like the studio with the board
Speaker 1: is going like this and ship yeah all that, and
Speaker 1: then bad luck had got signed over there right before that.
Speaker 1: Western Union level is my guy from that seven year thing,
Speaker 1: like that thing, so we all knew each other, so
Speaker 1: it was familiar faces and corrupt to the lightnings to me.
Speaker 1: So we were just He's like throwing me on ship
Speaker 1: and I'll just be rapping. I'm like, I'm I'm just like, damn,
Speaker 1: I get to do this with him, yea. Why I
Speaker 1: started spreading around the thing and ship. I had a
Speaker 1: chance to do some real work and Nigga had one
Speaker 1: shot and they just sent the right joint in and
Speaker 1: then I got the gig. For six months, I'm around
Speaker 1: the whole West coast. That ship just was like boom
Speaker 1: boom boom. Looking back at it during the time, it
Speaker 1: was like, goddamn, I'm trying. I'm sleeping on couches, my
Speaker 1: homelessening what you know, I'm getting a good ship. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. But that's the thing, man, That's that's what
Speaker 1: we love to talk about. To the process. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got to talk about the process. How Nigga slept on
Speaker 1: the floor and Nigga slept on the couch. Bro Like
Speaker 1: Nigga couldn't leave the studio to go because I'm leaving
Speaker 1: out months and gaps on the corrupt hang was a
Speaker 1: six month guy, and he was grooming me because that's
Speaker 1: his big homies. So he ain't just gonna lett nobody around, snoop.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing now looking back at I'm watching what they
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They groom me. I started
Speaker 1: just getting gang. I don't do that, don't do that,
Speaker 1: don't do this. Who whoa. It started early. They started
Speaker 1: sharpening in my nods and then etiquette, give me giving
Speaker 1: me real etiquette. I'm not sitting around like I'm sitting
Speaker 1: around the treue. This is the n w A tree, bro,
Speaker 1: this is where it begins. That's crazy. So I'm in
Speaker 1: college and Dog and Dogs such a real one and
Speaker 1: Tears had its own licens, like right now, you know
Speaker 1: y'all need to pay this time. If you need to eat,
Speaker 1: come up here. It's like, I call it the last
Speaker 1: of the big budget record. Remember now all of that.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about everything budget whatever, everything Dog said. And
Speaker 1: he had five of the motherfucker's roll And I'm like this, Nick,
Speaker 1: five budgets, five studios rolling at once. Looking back at it,
Speaker 1: I'm like that he was doing it right, was able
Speaker 1: to make some money. Ye g ship, that's what I'll
Speaker 1: be on. That's why they get it. The reason why
Speaker 1: Snoop is who he is. Come ontle swig and I
Speaker 1: don't give me all up m a little bit on there.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the reason why guys like Snoop or
Speaker 1: who they are, right man, because he gave and he
Speaker 1: gave so many opportunities. He had. He had me tears
Speaker 1: quick at our Encore and Niger had Teddy Riley at
Speaker 1: fucking uh the joint off one of the motherfucker's he had.
Speaker 1: He had, you know, all his squad and another one
Speaker 1: and he had like some eclectic version where he had like, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: he had like the real big people come through, but
Speaker 1: he had them all going at once because he's working
Speaker 1: on the shoulder and ship like that. Nigga eight months,
Speaker 1: don't nigga straight. Nigga brote everybody. Every contact I have
Speaker 1: now was through that six months, everybody, everybody. I was
Speaker 1: just just a guy in the corner and just remembering.
Speaker 1: All right, So tell me about function. You got to function.
Speaker 1: You go straight to function. That's a big let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go. That's your ship. You know, that's not trying
Speaker 1: to function at all times all the time. Time that's
Speaker 1: why he wanted to talk about this. That's what who
Speaker 1: we knew, like, I see what's going on the radio, bitch,
Speaker 1: why you know what? Do you know what? The funny
Speaker 1: thing all that attitude got developed from that story of
Speaker 1: that one, because it was a lot of start having
Speaker 1: that was just like, man, fuck everything. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say I've been a little too nice and so it's
Speaker 1: not coming out in the music. Was like, nah, because
Speaker 1: this is what this is going down because I'm not
Speaker 1: really gonna be playing like that. I'm not doing no
Speaker 1: plan with no niggas, not doing me and my squad.
Speaker 1: We go like this, this is our way of thinking.
Speaker 1: It may sound wild, it may sound and you might
Speaker 1: not work with it. You do this is how it
Speaker 1: goes into this into this island, and it's cool if
Speaker 1: you don't agree. We're not. We wasn't trying to recruit. Man,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody listen, We're not. It's not nah. I just
Speaker 1: had to get that out what I'm saying, to make
Speaker 1: sure to make sure we got some of that, and
Speaker 1: that was a That was an forty record, but it
Speaker 1: felt very Diamond Lane, right. It felt like it felt
Speaker 1: like in Diamond Lane and I know Forty, that's my
Speaker 1: that's my big dog. I know he did that purposely,
Speaker 1: right because Forty is a guy who appreciates, right. He's
Speaker 1: he appreciates when somebody got a gift and he lets
Speaker 1: his shine like Forty is never a guy that steps
Speaker 1: in front of people try to He's like, oh oh
Speaker 1: he got he got something I need to funk with.
Speaker 1: So he's not going to bring you in and try
Speaker 1: to change who you are. It's amazing he's he's he's
Speaker 1: so underrated and the boss talk that because the real
Speaker 1: fate is let's even just take that record at that time.
Speaker 1: There's no like Big bay l a record at all.
Speaker 1: He is him and his prospects, well he see me
Speaker 1: y g Sue made of this single. That means you
Speaker 1: put the bag behind none of us signing him. You
Speaker 1: know they don't do that at a boss and ever
Speaker 1: do that and then surrounded us like I'm on the hook.
Speaker 1: So I got to stay along for the whole the
Speaker 1: remix and everything surrounded us and put us in the
Speaker 1: spot to get a chance to when we did one
Speaker 1: or six in part like three weeks after it came out,
Speaker 1: and we was what nig we went straight to TV.
Speaker 1: It was no games. It was that ship was like
Speaker 1: now that record the rocket ship that was legal starts right, yep,
Speaker 1: was the up was in the swig House and the up.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'm sorry, I know we skipped some steps
Speaker 1: that I just had to get there. But yeah, Jake,
Speaker 1: because from from from the Snoop days and what you're
Speaker 1: doing there and which is your version of college or
Speaker 1: even getting your masters in a sense, right, because for
Speaker 1: a lot of us who didn't go to college, like
Speaker 1: myself when I came here, this was this was my
Speaker 1: schooling right as an adult. I learned some things as
Speaker 1: a kid in the business, but as an adult you
Speaker 1: deal with a different You deal with it direct. And
Speaker 1: I always use that same analogy right of it being
Speaker 1: college would be in my ba, my master's, my doctorate,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Ship. Right as you
Speaker 1: go from your schooling, you know Snoop corrupt all your
Speaker 1: guys there and move into diamond Lane with birds, bad
Speaker 1: luck all the things that you guys are creating over there.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Where the fuck are When the fuck did
Speaker 1: y'all say we're gonna take this masterpiece? How you do that? There?
Speaker 1: And turn this ship all the way up, because I
Speaker 1: will say this, and I don't know if I told
Speaker 1: you this back then. That was actually my favorite masterpiece
Speaker 1: song of all time. And young Bleep and Young Bleed
Speaker 1: cannot forget Young bleeed um and m hmm. When I
Speaker 1: first heard that record, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: why hasn't someone done this sooner? When you have that
Speaker 1: moment where you're like this nigga, I was like, so
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta explain that process. You gotta. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I know it's a masterpiece story. Come come on, man,
Speaker 1: I got it. I got it here out here on
Speaker 1: that east side man, east side of Loss Angeles. Like
Speaker 1: all the Project Niggas when I was in high school
Speaker 1: was playing master p all they was playing. They all
Speaker 1: they were on that way early. All of the Wasatch
Speaker 1: Niggas was on the Project, all of the nigs. So
Speaker 1: we went to Centennio together, so we were here, I
Speaker 1: would hear that ship they'd be playing it, so so
Speaker 1: I would tell Centennio is a Compton and wat school, No,
Speaker 1: just it's right down the streets from Projects. So like
Speaker 1: at that time, the Gamebank she was a super high.
Speaker 1: So that was the Blood School Centennio, and they were
Speaker 1: actually closer the lot, but that's you know, it's a
Speaker 1: crypt school. So it's more so like I don't know
Speaker 1: if you want to go down. It was just it
Speaker 1: was different then, like you couldn't wear the blue shoes
Speaker 1: string and all that. Like now anybody tripping off the
Speaker 1: colors and nothing. But then it was a little different.
Speaker 1: So you you wanted to go with your FOXX, right.
Speaker 1: So but they put me up on a lot of
Speaker 1: that ship. I swear, I swear to Nicko and the
Speaker 1: boy us so me and you know, bad luck. He's
Speaker 1: from Watson, so he's heavily influenced. First time we ever
Speaker 1: do the Molly is Halloween. We're in the car and
Speaker 1: we're going far ast fun. Y'all decided to do a
Speaker 1: Molly on Halloween. Let me tell you how this whatever
Speaker 1: we do know what it was. We uh, we're going
Speaker 1: to We're going to Bird's Cousins and Shake Cotton and
Speaker 1: James Cotton. Yeah, Cotton man, Let's come on, man, check
Speaker 1: out my boy document dramas all right now to So
Speaker 1: we're headed to one of their parties. But that ship
Speaker 1: far as the motherfucker's so um holie with he coming like,
Speaker 1: hey man, I got the ships moy this ship. It's like, like,
Speaker 1: what it is, Molly, It's called Molly or something, you know.
Speaker 1: So he's like, take put on your tongue. I like,
Speaker 1: what the fund is? We? You know? I done? He
Speaker 1: feels and ship and all that, but I'm like, what
Speaker 1: is it? That's funny time, I'm telling you cool. So
Speaker 1: we take it and even think it's had just got
Speaker 1: some fast like fast cars with health cash it or something.
Speaker 1: So we're actually flying too, like Santa Clarita. We're me
Speaker 1: and look we're shitting there there my fucking hit us,
Speaker 1: Like whoa that? Molly was like, oh, we just started
Speaker 1: talking about ships, like remember that's how you do that thing,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna flip that. Like hell, we'll get back
Speaker 1: to three and ain't gonna flip. That's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1: So we talked about that. We're talking about all these things.
Speaker 1: We get back and so the next day I'm like,
Speaker 1: Nigga flipped out, you do it there ship. He's like, man,
Speaker 1: just keep talking about that one thing, Nigga. We never
Speaker 1: did it. And one day I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: remember that conversation. Start playing that ship and start learning
Speaker 1: how to play. Start playing there. I made me was
Speaker 1: ten in the morning, so you replayed it, Yeah, played it,
Speaker 1: made made the drums for him and then and by
Speaker 1: myself ten in the morning. Nigga, I must have fucking
Speaker 1: did the hook. You know, I don't write, so I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there, I'm just coming up with it. I'm like
Speaker 1: this hard the second vision I call it up. I'm like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: if you don't get up here in thirty minutes, I'm
Speaker 1: about to do this. He was like, what playing it?
Speaker 1: He was like, Nigga, I'm on the way, don't do that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm telling you got thirty minutes because I
Speaker 1: got it off. I'm ready to go get this ship up.
Speaker 1: That niggag walked in and Nigga came from where we
Speaker 1: came from later, so they're I didn't like the lead
Speaker 1: I had, so I went and talk to jay Nor, like, man,
Speaker 1: you got a better version of this, So he went
Speaker 1: and found one that was closer the ship. We swapped
Speaker 1: it out hard. Yeah, nobody. It was just me and
Speaker 1: him playing it though we wouldn't have none of the
Speaker 1: homies here, like none of them, so we had a
Speaker 1: show a solid like one of the little shows. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get some money. Like I'm not really cracking yet,
Speaker 1: but they function. Money's cool. So nobody is like raining
Speaker 1: and nobody comes to the thing. But we're on the molly.
Speaker 1: We all. I'm like, the performed the ship because we
Speaker 1: just like fifty niggas with us. Yeah, I know, yeah
Speaker 1: that time. It's different times me and the tank we
Speaker 1: pull up, you know, but have you issue. I've never
Speaker 1: There's not been never, no, no, whoever noticed. So this
Speaker 1: is a different fifty niggo. We hid nigger. We just
Speaker 1: like turning new ship off and we just start doing
Speaker 1: it for the homies. The niggas was like, what's this mind?
Speaker 1: Was three people in the crap, We're just doing it.
Speaker 1: Those people like what is this song? And we did it.
Speaker 1: We just stopped performing for them and so it's time
Speaker 1: to get off because we didn't even have to really before,
Speaker 1: but were like, oh yeah, this hard. So that's how
Speaker 1: it happened. That was the first time. Yeah, the first
Speaker 1: time we blasted. That's one of the conversations on that
Speaker 1: our draw. Yeah, I would like to say awesome talk
Speaker 1: about it. I'm in that video. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't show up like that. If you look at
Speaker 1: that video, a lot of loving. Yeah, I just came out.
Speaker 1: What I will say is that y'all brought the city
Speaker 1: together of l A right and in the in in
Speaker 1: the bay, like we supported y'all heavily because we never
Speaker 1: felt like and you know, this whole l A and
Speaker 1: they things sometimes get tricky where guys feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: the sound is uh, they took that all the l
Speaker 1: A niggas took that on. Baby niggas took this and this,
Speaker 1: They all niggas on this, and it's like we don't
Speaker 1: never truly come together. I felt like when you came along,
Speaker 1: y'all brought a lot of us together, right because because
Speaker 1: you was working with love, ran Sue Pilo myself, Um,
Speaker 1: you was working with us so heavy and then and
Speaker 1: we showed the love the same way and with EFFORTY
Speaker 1: grabbed you putting it putting on that huge record. I
Speaker 1: really y'all giving him this huge record and being part
Speaker 1: of it like that it created something different. Man. I
Speaker 1: was honestly, man, that was Bird's vision the whole time.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, let's just all be cool. And I
Speaker 1: think it may maybe rub some people the wrong way
Speaker 1: because you know it maybe was against what you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they we wasn't going against normal the way we
Speaker 1: do anything in that business, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And they can't be looked at as they can be
Speaker 1: looked at as what they think they're better than are
Speaker 1: they are. They're gonna try to rewrite this or they're
Speaker 1: gonna make it. Whatever it was. The whole point was
Speaker 1: just like, naw, fuck them's us because when we get together,
Speaker 1: we when not like we. The problem with California is
Speaker 1: this right here. They think it can only be one king.
Speaker 1: That's always been the problem with California. They don't say
Speaker 1: kings out here, and it stops to growth. No, like me,
Speaker 1: when I say I get cracking, like I become the
Speaker 1: guy out here, I don't say Now I'm not doing
Speaker 1: records with niggas. I'm like, send all that ship, let's
Speaker 1: run it up while we got somebody to give a
Speaker 1: funk about, because they'll swap us out in a minute.
Speaker 1: Now you get hot, Now you get hot. You need
Speaker 1: one here, you got one. It's actually a very Southern
Speaker 1: way of thinking, and it's why they've done what they've
Speaker 1: done and yeah, my roots is from Louisiana. I guess
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm around some good guy that
Speaker 1: it may look like it's a different way, but really
Speaker 1: think about it and just go look at what's in
Speaker 1: the paint, the black and white, the numbers is when
Speaker 1: I when I start going with Diamond and start going,
Speaker 1: we said we yeah, we got a club. Now y'all
Speaker 1: pulling up? How many y'all got with y'all? Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: good now when they get him here here because we
Speaker 1: look cool, right, fuck them, I'm saying. So that's that's
Speaker 1: why I think the bay rocks with us so heavy,
Speaker 1: because that's how y'all move to a certain extent, it's
Speaker 1: better than that. Yeah, but I think it's better because
Speaker 1: we don't have back then. We don't have the color.
Speaker 1: I don't have the gag bang ship right, which is
Speaker 1: is to be respected, right. But I need to stop.
Speaker 1: We need I need to stop that ship. Though. Man,
Speaker 1: I've been I've been really like trying to say something
Speaker 1: different to my homies and all of them from all
Speaker 1: levels to executives, the streets, whatever we're doing. Man, that
Speaker 1: ship is for that. Don't give me the rules. I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't subscribe to that, so that don't come here,
Speaker 1: Like I've been really spreading that around the nigga's brod,
Speaker 1: I'm in the music business. I don't deal cracked, so
Speaker 1: don't whisper around me. Well, this is not that deep.
Speaker 1: We're selling intellectual property. Bro, I don't understand why everybody
Speaker 1: is so discreet and and so we're like, bro, no,
Speaker 1: I don't like everything. I got kids and ship that's deep.
Speaker 1: Like I got you know, a village of women that
Speaker 1: I have to like make sure they're okay. That's deep.
Speaker 1: They've tried to make this that. Not that I don't
Speaker 1: respect that, but if I want to get into that,
Speaker 1: let me go over there and get put on. And
Speaker 1: those are the rules. No, nigga, we're not dealing crack here.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be this deep, bro, this should be real deep
Speaker 1: all the time. So I've been kind of trying to
Speaker 1: like and I'm not trying to it's not tougher then
Speaker 1: this is not any of that. This is more so
Speaker 1: like not really want it gets to chill out because
Speaker 1: if we do it, if we do it the way
Speaker 1: that that I'm that I'm talking about, we probably can
Speaker 1: all make money instead of niggas just watching niggas get
Speaker 1: popping and hoping they reached down. Why that's not. I
Speaker 1: don't like shopping by myself. That that's not that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: well that's not. That doesn't make sense. No, I don't
Speaker 1: come from that. So now I think people get it
Speaker 1: now that everybody's went through this year of having to
Speaker 1: really go against their labels and find out how much
Speaker 1: the streams is and have to go really you have
Speaker 1: to get back just back in the in the grarded
Speaker 1: things and really do for yourself. The labels making you
Speaker 1: gonna shoot your own videos that they're they're making you
Speaker 1: figure it away and then if you get it right,
Speaker 1: this it is in that, and I'm watching people struggle
Speaker 1: with it. To me, I don't know no other way.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm like, I don't understand the problem.
Speaker 1: No that I'm comfortable. This is no. This is what
Speaker 1: independent is. This is what really goes like y'all been
Speaker 1: able to have been spoon fed, but it also goes
Speaker 1: to a level of professionalism too and understanding everything that
Speaker 1: you do. Know. I don't even think it's you don't
Speaker 1: you're not, you're not. I think that's kind of like
Speaker 1: because you're not missing on any level of your infrastructure.
Speaker 1: And so when when the guys that can't survive in
Speaker 1: this type of space, they are missing on a certain
Speaker 1: level of their infrastructure that they just don't understand. I wish,
Speaker 1: you know, I can say, hey, man, like try it,
Speaker 1: this wire, this is and that. But just that hasn't
Speaker 1: That's not been the way it's been out here. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just won't. I just want
Speaker 1: people to like, look, don't be nervous, don't be nervous.
Speaker 1: Don't because man, I know, but I told y'all we've
Speaker 1: been saying this for a long you know, rt be money.
Speaker 1: Your life changed when you say hello, nigga, we changed
Speaker 1: it like that. Hey, I don't like you. They don't
Speaker 1: you knowing that they said, Hey, it's funny because because
Speaker 1: because uh me and Jay we had a lawyer at
Speaker 1: the time at the time, and so we because it's
Speaker 1: the O G lawyer O G like Errol Smith representation
Speaker 1: o G type, like he big money. So we like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we tell him, we say, well, look, this
Speaker 1: is the new deal we want to do, and this
Speaker 1: is what we want. And he said, why are they
Speaker 1: gonna give you that sh shoot me the go to gunfight,
Speaker 1: all right, this is the guy that god. He said,
Speaker 1: why are they gonna give you that? Like with this place,
Speaker 1: Why are they gonna give you that? And I said
Speaker 1: he thought JA was a little punky little. I said,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna ask him. He said, all right, whatever, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, you're the one. He called up two days
Speaker 1: later he said, I don't know what you said that
Speaker 1: those people up there, man, but they're gonna give you everything.
Speaker 1: And uh was zone O, motherfucker blesten. Man, it feels
Speaker 1: good more your shoulder. But the benefit of betting on yourself, man,
Speaker 1: on yourself. We are bro, we are blessed. We are
Speaker 1: blessed to be able to create somebody air man. Let's
Speaker 1: let's not let's let's don't even I don't even know
Speaker 1: how it feels. That's just a I hate to not
Speaker 1: be able to grab a gift, right And and we
Speaker 1: really don't take the time to appreciate that that time
Speaker 1: last to literally wake up and be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it is like that know that and that and that's
Speaker 1: there's people go up. There's people out here going through
Speaker 1: some fucked up times. Called me in the morning with
Speaker 1: like the thirty things he didn't picked out of the sky,
Speaker 1: like hey man, and then and then and so just
Speaker 1: so just imagine though, like that's that's your reality, right.
Speaker 1: So to the outside man, they're like, man, well I
Speaker 1: gotta go flip this frod. Yeah, you know, I gotta
Speaker 1: go listen to that guy listen and that. So when
Speaker 1: I like, when I get to like, yeah, man, the
Speaker 1: touring's down, and a man just like, man, this real
Speaker 1: ship happens. So that's another reason why we are not
Speaker 1: selling act. This ain't stop. I don't care what they
Speaker 1: taught us. No, it don't have to go nothing like that.
Speaker 1: If we started company and we say, let thirty thirty
Speaker 1: thirty and we're gonna find t werena five for lawyer,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have five, We're ready to sell. We could
Speaker 1: do that right right. See, it's not that deep. It's
Speaker 1: never gonna be that deep till we started making Indeed,
Speaker 1: So this transition right from producer rapper uh two now
Speaker 1: coffee you know, I mean hold on, got it, got
Speaker 1: the bad and I mean ground coffee breakfast blends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. Hour the originally got a CBD as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this don't got nothing in it because I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna tweak off this. No, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: You're not gonna tweak at all. That's what that is.
Speaker 1: It's just another way to get it from the looking
Speaker 1: for the tweet. Now I gave you that bag, I
Speaker 1: gave you another for the best weed in the town.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, So what puts you in the
Speaker 1: space to say, Man, you know what a new coffee? Uh?
Speaker 1: The music? I right, the music, the music I was doing,
Speaker 1: but I had changed like the whole way out in
Speaker 1: my process. Instead of recording the night, only recorded in
Speaker 1: the morning. So in the morning, this is what I
Speaker 1: noticed I was doing. I was smoking weed, have a
Speaker 1: cup of coffee. I made it where I'm gonna wake
Speaker 1: up and do this and then from this time this time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this because I wanted to do all
Speaker 1: these things, but I knew my I lacked organizations. So
Speaker 1: I said, fucking I'm just gonna really write me out
Speaker 1: of schedule. I'm gonna work on my music this time
Speaker 1: and work on this from this time, and record from
Speaker 1: this time and this time. So during that process, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: what am I gonna call this? Because it was just
Speaker 1: different for me to style of music. I was waking
Speaker 1: up and just talking about the first thing I was
Speaker 1: thinking about as just as opposed to being at night.
Speaker 1: I hadn't been loaded all day, and it just was
Speaker 1: a different thing. But I felt this different balance, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. My life was just changing. I'm like, ship,
Speaker 1: Let's call the ship Coffee because it's gonna be the
Speaker 1: name of the albums. It was more so like, let
Speaker 1: me figure out a way that I can keep a
Speaker 1: three month income coming off an independent sale. It was
Speaker 1: a math play, honestly, and I was like, I know
Speaker 1: what I generate streams, this, this, and that. I know
Speaker 1: this can't go like this boom boom boom. I can
Speaker 1: set up a few of these throughout the year. Really,
Speaker 1: That's how I started. So I started liking the Ship
Speaker 1: and I had I'm like, I'm doing the music and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cushion, orange juice. I'm like, man, what
Speaker 1: what what I wonder? Why is it where it started?
Speaker 1: Orange us coming been cracking. I'm like, well, fuck it,
Speaker 1: let me at a coffee. I want to make sure
Speaker 1: I have some merch, make sure I have some things
Speaker 1: to go with this that you know, just build it out.
Speaker 1: And that's when the brand shout started. It was like,
Speaker 1: well Ship, what kind of coffee could I do? You
Speaker 1: went down the rabbit. I was like, well Ship, I
Speaker 1: don't want to do weed coffee. That could be different.
Speaker 1: There's some homework on that legal Ship was weird. CVD
Speaker 1: coffee was untouched. Nobody was there. So it was like,
Speaker 1: well Ship, I could put to spin on coffee. I'm new,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a new face. Nobody over is even over
Speaker 1: here in this all little artists are doing different kind
Speaker 1: of drinks, like, well Ship, let me just figure out
Speaker 1: how to do it. And then went through the process
Speaker 1: of learning started and Ship got the bags in front
Speaker 1: of us. But that was during the process. It was
Speaker 1: more so just stemming off of trying to build off
Speaker 1: of the music. Yeah, what I'm saying because I think
Speaker 1: that's the that's the biggest thing too with with music, right,
Speaker 1: I tell people at this point, the music is free
Speaker 1: to a certain degree. Right, We're gonna make our money
Speaker 1: off streams. They chopped that Ship off what they chopped off,
Speaker 1: But it's about being able to use the music, which
Speaker 1: is the cool actually sell everything else. And it's always
Speaker 1: been just merched. Right. Everybody's like I'm gonna tell the teacher,
Speaker 1: I'm telling hoodie, which is all good because people want
Speaker 1: to represent that, But what about these other things that
Speaker 1: we can sell, like this coffee right, like this has
Speaker 1: a price point right no matter what. People to drink
Speaker 1: coffee that love coffee. They may not even know who
Speaker 1: problem the rapper is, but they just like somebody else
Speaker 1: who did no problem to rapper was drinking it. It
Speaker 1: was like, men, you should try this. Yeah, we wanted,
Speaker 1: we definitely want the brand to not I wasn't even
Speaker 1: telling people at first. It was more so I just
Speaker 1: wanted to stand along, like I like the name to
Speaker 1: kind of speak for it, but theah man, like I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I really looked back that, like I went through this
Speaker 1: rebrand thing just mentally in my life and I was
Speaker 1: just changing, and I looked at like instead of looking
Speaker 1: at all the wrong ship that we probably did, Like,
Speaker 1: what did I like about the money would run? I
Speaker 1: was like, well, the smart thing a product got created
Speaker 1: may have not been legal. The trap got moment and
Speaker 1: made millions of dollars for somebody, somebody right right right.
Speaker 1: It was something that was already there, but we didn't
Speaker 1: know what it sounded like. Coffee is there, weed is here.
Speaker 1: We don't know what them together sound like. Well, let's
Speaker 1: create the sound of it. Let's create the universe. Illo
Speaker 1: how we did with and you're generally are genuinely part
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah. Yeah, I get up in the morning.
Speaker 1: I was want to start about meeting all these new people,
Speaker 1: like just you know, they noticed that I was smelling
Speaker 1: like weed. Thought, so, you know, my yoke alone the legs,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, ship, see what I'm doing. You know,
Speaker 1: I met so many people just having my I remember
Speaker 1: I don't some high socks that a ween leaf on
Speaker 1: it on all the all the guys came over to
Speaker 1: me like sure love those socks. Man, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, wait a minute. It's like a secret society.
Speaker 1: It's not so secret anymore. But I'm like and then
Speaker 1: I noticed, like I'm seeing the same people every day
Speaker 1: like here. I'm like, but they all look hella comfortable.
Speaker 1: They look comfortable. They look like they just said that
Speaker 1: they want to be here. It's not like I need
Speaker 1: to get here to start my day. You can tell
Speaker 1: them ones, No, they're sitting there you know, Capital conversation.
Speaker 1: It's just and then I start seeing the world and
Speaker 1: I went on tour for the first time and I
Speaker 1: actually really saw Amsterdam. Was like, whoa, this is real.
Speaker 1: That that was last year right around this time. That
Speaker 1: was the first time. I want to aswer that that
Speaker 1: was my first time overseas. What exhibit Yeah yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember that, yeah yeah, right before it closed up. I
Speaker 1: got to see it one good time. Oh man, it
Speaker 1: was great, bro, it was it was he was and
Speaker 1: he was in the space right, he's in He's in
Speaker 1: the space, the CBD cannabis space. Right, he's in the case.
Speaker 1: He's he's in the boy He's Yeah, he's in the cannabis.
Speaker 1: You got a chance to really see it up close
Speaker 1: from a professional and a professional like yeah, we all
Speaker 1: seen at the houses, meaning like even with the show
Speaker 1: m a professional. Yeah, he trying to rock you for
Speaker 1: who you are, little nigga, the big nigga in my show.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sipping yeah. And then just watch it go
Speaker 1: and to just to know that, like oh, breakfast, the
Speaker 1: whole ship I had, you know, I all my tours
Speaker 1: I funded, so it was different. You know, I had
Speaker 1: to pay style as we had to make sure my folks.
Speaker 1: I'm security too. It's like it's just different. I actually
Speaker 1: just got to just come and just experience tour at
Speaker 1: a high level because he's not going nowhere. Were no book,
Speaker 1: We're not doing it, so I got to see it
Speaker 1: fly right, like, oh yeah, fuss with this. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: But I had no idea that the shift I was
Speaker 1: rapping about was sitting over here. I had heard that.
Speaker 1: I didn't see this the people. I got to sit
Speaker 1: out there and turn it on because I had done
Speaker 1: all the music by there and just sit there and
Speaker 1: smoke and the water by ILF. Oh yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: even talking. I'm not even talking to that. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what's going on. This is crazy to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how did I I didn't even It's like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, and I'm like, oh, this is called green door,
Speaker 1: green hours. Oh this is problem already setting U to
Speaker 1: play when I get back, Like, I'm gonna make these coffees.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for him. Who straight like that? So how
Speaker 1: has that business been for you? We are the coffee
Speaker 1: man is fucked up right now? Yeah? Man, that ship
Speaker 1: if we had had so many issues banking issues, bro,
Speaker 1: Like they really try to keep us out of that
Speaker 1: business man. Yeah that like not marijuana. I'm not even
Speaker 1: talking about that. Just that ship making so much money, bro,
Speaker 1: they're trying to no, no, so your banking gotta be
Speaker 1: just right in anytime, and that like they try to
Speaker 1: act treat it like his weeding's not. And then you know,
Speaker 1: black man, you know, I got black people calling and
Speaker 1: just when I send black people in this company, and
Speaker 1: before all of the racial stuff got big, like you know,
Speaker 1: after that, they was trying to fix the ship faster.
Speaker 1: But before that, oh well, we had to took like
Speaker 1: as it took like about eight months to a year
Speaker 1: to even get a bank to pick us up. So
Speaker 1: I was man shout out to Chase inform the man
Speaker 1: he got the shop to role in the merd Park.
Speaker 1: It was really like I gotta busting him out of there.
Speaker 1: But it made it where this is the exclusive black
Speaker 1: coffee shop now out here. So that's the only they
Speaker 1: sold out. But he was like, man, we need some
Speaker 1: more to keep coming, like ship all right, bring some
Speaker 1: more here. So I was able to like really put
Speaker 1: him in cash after it's just like white. It was
Speaker 1: like a mix tape. It's like it's like ship out
Speaker 1: of done. Before the principals, I was right hold and
Speaker 1: then the ship and I'm like, man ship, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot videos that just lets it's running in.
Speaker 1: Let's go. So then we were able to get the
Speaker 1: bang and then was gone. I wasn't ready no more.
Speaker 1: I saved something for the months though, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: them out like twenty four free bags and this first shipment.
Speaker 1: I appreciate being one of the guys. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate.
Speaker 1: You know. You gave me a mug and I know
Speaker 1: you gotta smoke on the mug. You don't even I
Speaker 1: just I just want no, don't know, I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try. So that means I'm gonna leave you and
Speaker 1: need a couple of couple of buds. Yeah, definitely, you
Speaker 1: know what, and I'll make sure you know what. I
Speaker 1: make sure Steve set you up a real nice back
Speaker 1: to Yeah, you know, start a kid and support my guy.
Speaker 1: Put it on the ground. Bro. Let's tell you it's
Speaker 1: kind of like this. You might bump and just some
Speaker 1: real use, some real fly people coming in and out there.
Speaker 1: Because I know I didn't notice many people smoked weed
Speaker 1: and drunk coffee. Man in a different level of places.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, Well we don't want to keep you long. Brother, Um,
Speaker 1: you know your family more than you're welcome, consuc come on,
Speaker 1: but we gotta you know. Valentine has a segment that
Speaker 1: he likes to ye shown that you know something you
Speaker 1: just want before you do this, you got to really
Speaker 1: be a part of this got a great part of
Speaker 1: this show. Man. It's called I ain't saying on that
Speaker 1: no names right and the story can need to be
Speaker 1: funny or funked up? Are both right? And you tell
Speaker 1: your story. You tell your story without saying the names,
Speaker 1: but you give enough information to where people was like,
Speaker 1: okay that such and such from the such and such
Speaker 1: from the such such? Do you feel you feel? Man,
Speaker 1: dude this I know you got a lot of I
Speaker 1: know you got a nah, it's just I need a
Speaker 1: good one though. Now I'm just saying it's like I
Speaker 1: don't know names. Well, okay, that's what I give you
Speaker 1: because I can't give you like nobody naming the way.
Speaker 1: So it's got to be like a on one experience
Speaker 1: there because we could be can I give the other
Speaker 1: people's no I ain't saying no name. You can give
Speaker 1: their gender. You know, you know Becky with the good hair,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, my nigga with the Lord
Speaker 1: Jesus part. Little fun that was gonna go almost dropped it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it fun. I'm gonna take it's gonna fun. Damn.
Speaker 1: Come on, dude, you got me sit there flying down
Speaker 1: this a holiday went that uh okay, before it was on,
Speaker 1: but it was like a little bit on, but it was,
Speaker 1: it was on, but it wasn't on. Uh sure, lady
Speaker 1: m she uh not from out here. She was out here.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm moving around trying to get herself started
Speaker 1: or whatever. And you know, somehow we end up, you know,
Speaker 1: talking or whatever, and then I end up going over
Speaker 1: to our place and she's spoken in the language or whatever,
Speaker 1: but like, why don't you ever talk like that that
Speaker 1: we have different conversations, and then I end up you know,
Speaker 1: we we we can't. We got intimate, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, um, And I didn't know at the
Speaker 1: time that she was probably with one or the other
Speaker 1: one of us, and like a little thing that was
Speaker 1: blowing up out here. And I think that's why me
Speaker 1: and somebody else. I didn't get along, and I'll just
Speaker 1: get stopped. There is I tell anyone is that it did?
Speaker 1: I do it right? I'm trying to y'all want to know.
Speaker 1: It's your story. You get it, I get it. I
Speaker 1: think I'm playing it too safe. You definitely play this.
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't know. You're definitely playing
Speaker 1: it safe. But I know what it is. It goes
Speaker 1: back to our initial conversation about some of the things
Speaker 1: that's different in WRAP than they are in R and B.
Speaker 1: That's why I'll be trying to sing with y'all. Listen
Speaker 1: and you listen. You write that R and B two
Speaker 1: definitely right there are made me come to Lampline people.
Speaker 1: People don't know this. It's a fun fact. The only
Speaker 1: feature on the t G T definitely the fourth member
Speaker 1: of tv T for sure. You're just gonna kick me
Speaker 1: off the group. Okay, cool, bro, I'm actually I'm listening.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there right right like you, I'm I'm lazy bone.
Speaker 1: What's the one that when I was in jail? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like he's the silhouette on the um, crazy wishing, flesh, flesh,
Speaker 1: flash flash boned. T G t he's because we're going,
Speaker 1: because we're going. Uh. Yes, Steve Lobel, he's the glue
Speaker 1: together together. I see Steve every night. What the fuck
Speaker 1: running around trying to find him niggers. He'll be trying
Speaker 1: to find him niggers. Steve was everywhere a good guy,
Speaker 1: good guy. We're working, were working again, I've been you know. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm still I don't care. I still want. I want
Speaker 1: to get the grou back together. But you know, flesh
Speaker 1: wants to put I want to see the five R
Speaker 1: man get back like all that he fights. Don't think
Speaker 1: that fight for for fun. I'm not going to don't
Speaker 1: need to fight for fun to sway his judge. He
Speaker 1: is what he thinks. Okay, is exactly. But listen, it's
Speaker 1: a new way. You know, we can just send the
Speaker 1: vocals and put it together. You know you don't have
Speaker 1: to sing all the same. Listen because you know what, man, Listen,
Speaker 1: you know what man, I was there, Okay, it was
Speaker 1: man great and listen, I get it. Man. I know
Speaker 1: everybody want to swing. They dick and all that. Man,
Speaker 1: put that sh up, everybody, just everybody. I'm like me,
Speaker 1: bro im myself. I'm not talking to you. I'm just
Speaker 1: in general, I have to humble myself in a lot
Speaker 1: of situations. I know I did a lot of things wrong.
Speaker 1: How the types of honors for that, But doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you destroyed nothing. You just grow and learned. As long
Speaker 1: as everybody is willing to own on on their moment
Speaker 1: of ego you know what I'm saying, and and be
Speaker 1: willing to like you said, stop swinging long enough to
Speaker 1: make something historical happiness. I get it. It's a big,
Speaker 1: big business, man, I understand. Man. Let's just listen it. Listen,
Speaker 1: bro were singing song. Niggas got real kids. I know
Speaker 1: nig's got baby mamas and all of that ship. We
Speaker 1: gotta get listening on some man ship. We gotta start, man, Man,
Speaker 1: we gotta start showing better. We gotta do better. Better. Man.
Speaker 1: I saw another reason why that music for me works now,
Speaker 1: because it's like I feel like, let me tell you why,
Speaker 1: instead of like, man, I think you should do this,
Speaker 1: let me let me just fucking I'll hang myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this didn't go right for me. Won't you try it
Speaker 1: this way? I did this this way because damn, and
Speaker 1: I slipped through it like this. Blah blah, blah. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, bro, it's just it's
Speaker 1: not just deep. But we get paid to to be art. Man,
Speaker 1: nigg has better chill out, man, I know Nigga's got
Speaker 1: I'll see this world has shown and this bigger things
Speaker 1: going on. Sure we'll look y'all. Man, this is Jesus.
Speaker 1: This has been the Army Money podcast. Man, we didn't
Speaker 1: this and turned into to a real vibe. Don't spot spot.
Speaker 1: I'm a second hand. You know what I'm saying. On
Speaker 1: that second hand, we get on me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Put it out So I didn't want to
Speaker 1: smoke at all like that. Oh it's cool, you know,
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about myself this ship. Thank you all
Speaker 1: for tuning in. Man, this is the arm By Money podcast.
Speaker 1: And thank this is Mr Valentine. We had the authorities
Speaker 1: on R and B. And this is our brother, this
Speaker 1: is our loved one. Um, this is gifted. This is
Speaker 1: the problem. Man. We thank you man having me Man, Man,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, Man, and let your brother money. M H
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