WEBVTT - Problem 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:20.760 Well, we are the authorities things R and ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:23.880 This is the R B Money Podcast. I'm Tank, this 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.720 is Mr Ja Valentine. Were the authorities on R and 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.200 B music and in the building to day. We got 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:34.880 a friend, we got a brother, a philanthropist, a leader 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.800 in the community. We got problem in the creative visage. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:47.800 Come on to build them. Man, Man, I feel this 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.360 is smooth man. As much of a rapper as you are. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:01:01.840 Your vibe is R and B. Oh totally you are focused. Yeah, totally. 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.600 R and B guy on the prize, Yeah, I think 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.920 you know what. Just to be totally honest with you, 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.000 the blues and the jazz and the R and B 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:14.280 fellers have always been the ones that I finally hung 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.840 the most away during my career, just because yeah, it's 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.720 just more playerism on this side. And the rap guys 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:24.920 they rap about ship and then it don't be all 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.959 the way through, you know. They do songs like the 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.440 police and call the police on you. They do songs 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.520 like bitches and ship but holdes tricks. We're sharing everything 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.320 and then we happen to do the same one. Just 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.560 get the crime. I don't understand. It's like a weird 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.840 place going R and B. It's just like, hey man, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.080 this is what it is. I say, what it is? Now? 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.400 They don't touch this. This is we're doing. It's a toe, 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.280 just a wave. I love I love her, I love 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:52.840 her her, But come on, it's just always been that. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.000 And then you know, it's damn fooling through this ship. 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.520 You know, just always been like, you know what, let 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.640 me just stay where, I'm welcome right to me. Using 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:08.679 since we're there, what is it about? What is it 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:13.600 about wraps? When it comes to it being authentic or 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.600 from a place that guys who are not authentic and 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.440 from a place seem to be able to get away with. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.600 What are the things that they get away? Why are 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.640 they allowed to in a sense, have we allowed it 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.760 to just be entertainment for them? Um? I think? I 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:39.760 mean bullshit? Alwaysselves like being extra, being over over over over. 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.839 So you'll have some guy that will probably think that, 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.000 you know, they may do things like well you know, 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:48.239 I really believe this, but then the labels throwing gasoline 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.639 on it, the managers and then women and the homies 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.520 are throwing no, you gotta turn it up like you 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.679 can shoot. Okay, I shot one person but now making 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.320 it was like a seven, so they take that in 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.400 the times order everything before and then it actually works, 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.640 and then the fame comes and then you have to 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:08.720 be that seven and you forget that, Wait a minute, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.040 I was just doing this to get popping. You actually 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:15.040 started believing the character that's created by the circle around you. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.920 People get lost in the circus and you forget that 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.520 we're coming to look at the clowns, not be the clowns, 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.840 and you're just getting lost. But do you feel like 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:29.120 that's just entertainment altogether? Right? Like if you meet Marilyn Manson, 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:35.400 he gotta be Marilyn Manson, right or not? I'm asking 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:41.000 it depends, It depends. It depends on what what Marilyn 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:47.800 Manson is selling, right Like me, I've understood that that's 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.400 what he was on right, right, But if you see 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.280 him and catch him out, he that's what he looks 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.840 like when he's just doing what he's doing, like regularly. 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.720 Like I saw him coming out of studio with Gucci 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:03.000 man full ready whopped like I was right, I'm like, yeah, 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.880 that's cool. You know what I'm saying. It's like, so 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.840 if you you I think I think they I think 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:10.200 I don't know. I think it's for black people and 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:14.400 white people is different. White people can actually create the 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:19.240 character and becoming Black people are getting the character created, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.440 and then it's like they're fighting with if I'm really 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.160 it or if I'm not, and it's just not it's 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.560 just weird power struggle that come with being famous and 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.400 not doing it the way you wanted to do it, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.120 if that makes any sense, not being a hundred percent 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.320 authentic to what your brand and your mission is and 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:37.000 all the time, Like when I met you, right, it 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:41.839 was around the Molly Wood time, and I left that 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:49.159 studio feeling like this nigga everything rapping about, right, because 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.520 I was off of all kind of ship. Turned out 0:04:53.520 --> 0:05:02.279 a lot of fun at time, but I was just 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:07.839 like and and that's the thing where I believe in 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.000 the entertainment side of it, right, But I personally do 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:16.240 appreciate when I meet somebody that's about their craft, right, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.200 if they kind of live in that space of like 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.840 when when you meet a player, he all about the 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.720 players ship and he's very player in real life, or 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:30.240 if it's a nigg about you know, beating niggers up, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.320 popping his pistol, you meet him like, oh I feel 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:35.320 the worl like I get it, like it makes sense. 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.800 Like when I met fifty cent but I hung out 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.680 with I was like, oh, fifty with all he with 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.520 all of it. I think he got a little knife ony. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:48.359 You don't got me like that. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.479 You got me like that? Huh Okay, I appreciate it. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:58.720 That's the same way all the time. Yeah, I feel 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:03.080 the same. The scary selling point isn't it's scary or 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:07.640 detrimental in a sense to like because music is so 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:13.240 influential and so powerful in terms of people wanting to 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.680 be something or sing a thing that is successful and 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.159 wanting to even if it's whatever it is, emulate the success. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.560 That's the tough part of it because if you're truly 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.240 being yourself, you're not doing it to be emulated, and 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.520 that's where the trouble ares. Like I feel like he's 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:29.360 being himself. Of Course, when I was doing Mollywood stuff, 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.160 I was just being myself. I didn't think I was 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.359 like I'm about to change this and we're gonna have 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:34.760 me to do it. That wasn't the play. I'm just 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.919 talking about my day. So it is like it's a 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.960 their line because me, just me personally, I got lost 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.120 in it because the music was getting hot as fuck, 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.200 but I wasn't that no more. I had stopped doing 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.840 this ship maybe a year or two before anybody even knew. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:54.040 But it was like this character got big, he got big. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.720 I was having people like it was weird things where 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.000 like the crowd is cracking, but I have some young 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:00.520 dagger walk up to my man and I just took 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.120 eight of them trying to get like you. I'm like, whoa, 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.320 what do you mean that's not what no, no, no, no, no, 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.599 we're not doing that's after I handle my man. I 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.080 hand niggas walked up to me, hand me. Hand niggas 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.000 come up to me like, man, I made three million 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.600 dollars that ship dropped nick ship boom, and I'm like, man, yeah, 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.880 that's what's up. But that means it's a gaggas high 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:22.360 out of here tripping, you know what I'm saying. So 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.280 that's where I'm thinking about the effect, right because it's 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.720 like yeah, like okay, yeah, I'm monetizing and I'm having 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.320 and I'm really just telling my truth. So it's a weird, 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.000 a weird line. But it's like Okay, well, what are 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.040 you really here to do this? Mike is a motherfucker. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:42.720 Guess we're using this for good. The people evil yourself. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.440 It's hard to tell people, and that's only a hip hop. Yeah, 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.240 it's hardly hip hop. It's hard to tell guys not 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.760 to tell their story, right, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.840 That's like impossible to tell, you know, to tell in 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.880 our tist how to paint what colors to you is 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:05.040 because that story read is imprinted on his gift. You 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.400 know what I'm saying, Like whatever he went through, um, 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:14.520 that's that's that was nourishing to what he's now projecting, 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.160 you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's hard 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.640 to tell a guy like, man, you shouldn't told the 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.200 gun and you shouldn't sell the be ship when you've 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:23.960 when you've told it the gun and sold the ship. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.680 But so got him there. So it's like so it's 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:32.360 like it's almost like, should guys be looking to grow 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.320 out of it jay Z? But it's very hard to 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:38.680 grow out of it. And it's in my opinion right 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:42.199 and jay Z is a different story because jay Z 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.240 was always a progressive rapper and he also came in 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.360 the game as a grown man. Jay Z didn't catch 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.200 didn't catch his wave until seven years old. He's talking 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.080 about some of these kids who coming in a seventeen 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:58.440 eighteen my house may be still in a mama house, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:03.319 are in the group whatever it is, and they're rapping 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:07.839 about street rap. So and what we do know about 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:11.600 the street is that the streets don't really grow. Right, 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.560 we can all go back to wherever we're from and 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.520 find the same ship going on that was going on 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:22.200 there when we left. Right. So for jay Z, when 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.720 I say being a progressive rapper, he was always rapping 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.840 about business. And if the business at that time was 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:33.520 the dope game, that's still a business. There's no yeah, 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:38.960 there's no real business. And robbed the nigga shot up 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.480 a couple of niggas. Are you know this bitch, and 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:44.840 blah blah blah. There's no real progression in that. Because 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:48.480 now when this nigga starts rapping about being married, he 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.080 actually looks soft. When jay Z says what's better than 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.199 one billion? There two, which is still the same thing 0:09:55.240 --> 0:10:00.560 about being married, it sounds but when you got the 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:04.760 dog gass nigga like, yeah, but I love her. What 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:10.680 are you talking? I can't love nobody, right, That's a 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:16.199 very hard space to live in, especially when your finance 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:21.600 depends on it. That's the pial, right, that's the pial, 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:25.640 you know what I'm saying, And like like, that's when 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.559 it gets tricky. And that's where this lost thing happened, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.400 where you know, I know artists that went through it 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.040 and and just I'm figuring out ship, like just figuring 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.360 it out, like whoa. And I'm watching a lot of 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.000 my my peers, like you know what I'm saying, And 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:44.640 I'm watching like Quo through the growing pains like that 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.000 got lost in the bag chase. Do you get what 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:52.280 I'm saying. You start looking at the let's let's just 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.480 use the word analytics, since it's a good word. You 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.400 look at the analytic and you see what people are 0:10:56.400 --> 0:11:01.400 buying into and sometimes you don't. You can't manage your 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.360 way out of it, because this is what this is 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.439 the cell, this is the you know what I'm saying, 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.520 I got I got eighty nine percent right here. You know, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.319 when I post these other things, I'm you know what 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:15.440 I'm saying, I get two percent over what I'm saying. 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.320 The fall off is real. But when I do this ship, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.440 I'm at eighty nine percent. Yeah, you can become a 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.319 slave to that. You can become a slave to it. Yeah, 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.120 you know what I'm saying. I think you know what 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:25.880 and this is this is funny. I'm having one of 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:31.079 the moments. But that's probably why they always want to 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.480 remember the time, Like you let us handle the books 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.240 and then you do the talent. You're the talent. All 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.079 of us have went through that time. That's problem. That's 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.360 the part is probably why because as an artist, you 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.760 still want to please no matter what nigga say. It's 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.440 about you want your joint to come on in the room, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.280 light up. You want people, you want your ship, and 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.480 it's nothing wrong with that. You shouldn't want to be 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.640 booboo like I don't give a funk with nobody talking 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.240 about you're not gonna ever sell me that. But that's 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.559 the ones that we're the ones that understand both sides. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.320 You have to understand being a consumer and a motherfucking seller, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.520 you know what I'm saying. I feel like as a producer, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.360 you get that, so you can teeter the line. It's 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.839 probably one you do better than the other, but you 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.040 understand both sides as a writer and a producer, which 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.480 most people don't know. Right, you are right, right, right. 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.800 A lot of people didn't know, like your big records 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.880 you produced. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.760 people didn't know that, you know, I mean, people didn't 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.079 know that problem was a producer on like what you 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.400 know what I'm saying, like like these records you like, 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.559 I'm actually win the studio and see you making beats. Yeah, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.600 you know what I'm saying. But but aside from being 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.560 a beat maker a producer, were you really in there? 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:50.600 I mean turning things up, turning the knobs down. Okay, listen, 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.000 this vocal ain't right. We gotta shift this. We need 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.840 to put this on top of here. We need this 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.520 type of you know what I mean, plug in on there, 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.480 like that's full production, you know what I'm saying. So 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.280 being in that space, like it was crazy. Man. When 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.520 I first met you, I was like, Yo, this guy 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.760 really is a Swiss army knife. Like this guy really 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:13.160 a Swiss army knife. But I always wondered, right, and 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.920 I feel like knowing you all these years now, I've 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.080 kind of gotten my answer. I always wondered if it 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.680 was going to be enough for you? What do you mean? 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:26.160 Like right, Oh yeah, I always wanted that from the 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.040 from the day I met you. You know what's crazy. 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.440 The crazy thing is, like you know, y'all know, I 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.040 was in the studio a lot. I'm twelve fourteen hour 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.920 a day studio guy man, and it's like wow to 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.959 stick my head out and say, wait a minute, a 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:46.880 bunch of sig You get what I'm saying. And it 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.720 all works the same way. You know, if you understand production, 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.959 you understand writing, you know how to sell records, and 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.240 you know how to make hits. If I want to 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:56.960 sell it, I know not to send the vocal to 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.280 make it real loud may get sucked up. It probably 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:00.840 not even sound in the ask. I'm not given put 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.040 them all. Make it so they can know what they've done. 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:07.600 It that and then you know the ones like I'm 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.760 on this one because they're gonna hear the difference when 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:14.199 I sent it back. Yeah, yeah, I'm saying something. Learning 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.280 when to do that has what sticking my head out 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:19.920 has done, you know what I'm saying Like, And I 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.160 wouldn't have never known I wanted more than music because 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.200 the thing is that's what shocking to mean that you 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.520 said I never thought about nothing else than like, man, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.120 I just like doing music, Like I just want to 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:30.680 sit in here and do the music. Maybe I'm just 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.680 trying to escape other ship, or maybe I know that 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.760 this can change something. I just I don't know. Whatever 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.400 it was. It was like if I got down time, 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.920 if I'm gonna be sitting somewhere, I'd rather sit think 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.840 where I got all my weapons, unless I'm sitting at 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.360 the house or with the kids. Man ship and I 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.080 can bring them, I can bring them. I can bring 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.400 it here. So you mean I can I can play 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:56.960 here here. Creative ship. Yeah, but it's other ships. You 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.960 gotta learn to control all that because that's like it's 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.760 get dangerous. It's just a bunch of lights going everywhere. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.040 It's like, then I'm not getting personal ship handled. Are 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.200 I might be too when I go outside the personal 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.640 I'm so personal that I'm not getting here. It's just 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:13.160 finding that balance. It's what the nig had to even 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.040 reach to reach that. So it's crazy that you saw that. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.160 I was just like just trying to so fine, you 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.960 know what I'm saying. Whatever they could do, like we 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.040 was always just figuring out something we you know, we 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.400 did we just wrong. We did the wrong, like one 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.440 wrong thing and we just didn't like the car before 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.480 we didn't want wrong, which wasn't even that wrong, but 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:33.400 we did some we did the wrong thing and just 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:34.880 like I didn't like the way it felt like that, 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.400 you know what I'm saying, Like that type of wrong. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:41.240 So like let's just hustle here and there. But yeah, yeah, 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.000 I get it, just start bumping in ship. But you're 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.280 taking that now, putting it to the studio off of 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:52.640 one conversation with the homies and and then like um, 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.480 the first two I was, I did myself. But then 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.320 the one that paid, the homey that paid for the 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.280 first guy to go, he was like, man, I should 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.400 I what you if you want to go out? So 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.280 he started putting it on it. You know, he's trying 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.320 to seeing what I'm doing. And we all were homs anyway, 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.200 Like he actually got a job, you know, doing it 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.840 like that, so it ain't really shipped to him. So 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.360 kept going, bro, We'll just start just learning how to 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:20.120 work that ship. So from that point at twenty, when 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:24.160 does it happen where you like, oh, ship that made 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.520 some money somewhere somebody's offering me some real bread or 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.280 I get that first radios being like when does it happen? 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:36.120 From twenty like, how long until you get that breakthrough? 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:43.120 Looking back now, relatively early, relatively early, within a three 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.600 year span, ship we have figured out a program to 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:51.280 where the like funking the studio, but let's get the equipment. 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.240 You know, I got with ed my boy, we get 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:55.960 to doing it. He had he had a little he 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:57.800 had an idea it was the right entertainment if he 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.800 was a little This was the first situation. He just 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.240 wanted me to come be a producer for his entertainment thing. 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.760 And it was like, well, look I learned ad that's brother. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:12.240 The fact that yeah, I'm like, I actually learned how 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.280 to recourse. I'm recording them and I'm just rapping that 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:15.680 night because they were like, man, you weak. You know 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.359 what I'm saying them like, really was rapping. So I 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.199 would do my ship at night, just practicing. But then 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.600 I'm like, man, let's get pro to. Let's go let's 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.320 just get an MPC. Let's go do this. You know 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.320 that time home girls are put your set ont it was, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.720 you know, the different time. You know, and the other hustle. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.080 We're doing it. It's happening. The girl that's coming through, 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.119 like no, I got this weekend. Let's just go in there. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.000 It's happening. Let's just come in. You love them, you know, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:39.840 like I mean, do you know what? You know what? 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:46.840 Let's let's let's let's go get it, hold on, get it. Listen, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.720 they like they are appreciated, ladies, You are appreciate. That's 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:52.800 how I survived for a minute when I first came 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.960 to l Let's shout out to you know what I mean, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.720 to the to the you feel that, to car Bob, 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.200 don't take care of me. Let's shout out to them. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:09.440 Come on, come on like us. They know women saying 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:14.520 it first. Absolutely, they believe nothing is niggers. They take 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.280 nothing that takes some actual winning for nothing that's built 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:21.920 without a woman. Oh nothing, nobody. I think, how I 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:27.720 go tell yourself that that's going on? And I would 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:29.440 get that ship and it wouldn't know like any of that, 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.399 you couldn't google it. So it's just like I just 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.520 gotta just go through trialing there. Like the first beat 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.440 I made on the NFC, I literally went through other 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:40.439 people's songs and chopped sound and chopped Ship getting them 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:44.080 all right, So we're working at Motherfucker. I'm learning. Once 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:45.760 I learned how to do that, it was like, all right, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:50.520 I can record myself. Um, nobody was doing that at 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.479 that time. It was just like I'm in the closet 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.720 going crazy. Niggas was the word was spreading in the hood, 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.960 like Niggas like nig over there we put together and 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.159 you're not giving it to DJs or nothing yet. Man, 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.880 we're going straight to the streets. We went it stepped, 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.239 they diviudged the skin where it's like, look, we got 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.399 some initial funding. Niggas had all put our money together. 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.480 It was like, let's get the mixtape. Let's go buy 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.520 this mini. We sell this mini. We can all make 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.840 at least we can at least make twelve twelve thousand 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.000 a month or something. We could all piece up and 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:27.399 half that while we're doing this. So Ship make the music. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.359 I would probably engineer for niggas while niggas wasn't recording. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.040 We got it. We got our own studio at this 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:36.280 time doing that. They selling CDs all day. Ship, We're 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.480 so like thirteen thousands of Motherfucker's hand to hand and 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.119 it really got to the radio, like, Yo, are you 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.000 going to where you going by? Problem? Yeah? That's problem 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.320 there because at that time I end up getting better 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.520 than them because I just was in it so much, 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:54.280 not because they weren't good. It was just I'm in 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:59.159 the gym, right. So ship got a call from Yoyo 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.360 I of nowhere. You know what I'm saying, like we're 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:09.560 playing that song person, Yeah, songs called I'm a problem. 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.399 That ship came on and it was like, whoa, that's 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:16.680 all We're running around. We think it's cracking and going nuts. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.120 It's going crazy. I'm like, okay, we did we all 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.720 it's going on. It's like, okay, that ain't enough, though, 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:26.960 we gotta come on to another joint. I think now 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.840 I'm like the only nigger out here that could really 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.480 get them spikes because they seeing my team in the 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:38.000 streets and I'm everywhere were it's like physically in the streets. 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:43.320 So m l A. But then during that time though, 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.359 from that time when we started with the NPC to 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:49.840 that Terris Martin stumbles in my house through a drummer 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.520 that we know, I know terrorist from us me getting 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.000 that MPC and I know how to really work it. 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.520 And so my boy Robert, who was a drummer, it's 0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.359 I mean, I got the snigger man Snigger he played 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:01.600 for Snoop Dogg. This time, Sloop is the only thing, 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.000 you know what I'm saying in the world. He's like 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:06.640 on tour, he for to come on, He's gonna show 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.760 you how to work it. I'm like, all right, man, 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.360 he bring that nick in the walk in I never 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.400 forget this and then walk and said it was kiss 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:21.000 up y'all. So he's being his Snoop, but it's yeah, 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:25.080 he like you got an MPC around going there, nigga. 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:29.199 He always been that, you know, everything made. It was like, men, 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.919 you can have that, my nigger, and then left, they 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.160 can get that you a beat and then left. I said, 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:38.000 this motherfucker thing, no way, I'm about three course. So 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.239 I did the songs that I got the CD. Burn like, man, 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.760 get that back to him. Yeah, he hear me, like 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.159 I didn't you know how hard on the kiss I'm 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.720 on a CD at this time? Nigger? It was like 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.680 it got to him back you hard, and I'm like, 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:54.520 I just never see nothing like that. I don't around 0:21:54.920 --> 0:22:22.240 to show you. I wouldn't play. Yeah, two thousand one. 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:29.119 That's how I know tears. Wow. Uh we have been 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:33.080 locked at the hip every every day sent that shouldn't crazy, 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:35.280 and then here's this fifteen hundred comes from him. So 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:39.760 I mean, laurens, I mean they know, we all just 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.920 we've been through that time. Everybody was just grinding. So 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:46.280