Speaker 1: Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of The Greatest. I am
Speaker 1: Megan Gaily, and I'm joined by my husband and co host. Um.
Speaker 1: We're currently sharing a microphone now because we're doing an
Speaker 1: in person recording with a very special guests who'll bring
Speaker 1: on in just a moment. But when you said welcome
Speaker 1: to the Greatest, I was like, that's not the name
Speaker 1: of the show, because I was thinking you were saying
Speaker 1: welcome to the Bubble, because I watch you record the
Speaker 1: Bubble every week. But um, but yeah, that's all I
Speaker 1: wanted to say. I'm C J Toldano, and this is
Speaker 1: a very fun episode. Oh I don't like this already.
Speaker 1: We're sharing a mic back and forth, even though our
Speaker 1: guest who lives eight minutes away, so I have mikes.
Speaker 1: There we go. I hope you caught C Digo. No. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just really hard not to interrupt, and I know
Speaker 1: that that's something that I need to work on. So
Speaker 1: I guess this episode not only will it be informative,
Speaker 1: it'll also be a chance to watch me not interrupt people. Hope.
Speaker 1: Boy Um, our guest, very dear friend just launched his
Speaker 1: new podcast doing my best. Okay, great, Um, dear friend
Speaker 1: originally from Cleveland, I know that's going to come up
Speaker 1: by way of Chicago and New York. Give it up
Speaker 1: for Mike Joyce. Hello, hello Michael. Also, I don't want
Speaker 1: to miss a credit. You co produce a very fun
Speaker 1: stand up show. When that existed with me, we were
Speaker 1: every Thursday night. Yeah, me, you and Megan go way back.
Speaker 1: We started comedy together in Chicago. What what year was this?
Speaker 1: Two thousand, two thousand and I'm trying. I moved there
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, okay, a little before you.
Speaker 1: I mean such good friends that when you and your
Speaker 1: wife moved from Chicago to New York, you gave me
Speaker 1: your open mic and we threw you going away party
Speaker 1: where we said that you and your wife were ore
Speaker 1: twin Towers and that we would never forget you. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just see you can't say you can't go, Megan, no,
Speaker 1: because I have the mic right now. It's almost like
Speaker 1: we're in I've never been to marriage counseling despite Michael, Michael,
Speaker 1: thank you for being here. You guys are missing so
Speaker 1: many I rolls like. It's too bad this is a
Speaker 1: podcast format because I just love doing rolls. But Michael,
Speaker 1: so you are a father, you are a two very
Speaker 1: beautiful children, a lovely wife, beautiful wife, and I got
Speaker 1: the whole. We got to take offense. So yeah, but
Speaker 1: this is a sports podcast, so I do want to
Speaker 1: just like I want to align the audience with where
Speaker 1: your allegiance stands. That would be all things Cleveland sports. Um,
Speaker 1: I am sort of a psychopath when it comes to that.
Speaker 1: I would I would put myself on Megan Gaily Indiana,
Speaker 1: I put you, Um, I would put you maybe over
Speaker 1: me Wo's that's an honor. But I'm also kind of scared.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think this is a phenomenon that's
Speaker 1: kind of like specific Cleveland in some ways? Though I
Speaker 1: don't know any passive Cleveland fans. No, I don't either.
Speaker 1: We are We're a strange breed. We truly live and
Speaker 1: die by it. And I try to get excited for
Speaker 1: other sports, but but nothing like I can't get in
Speaker 1: the hockey because there's no Cleveland team. It's it's there's
Speaker 1: something that's broken in my brain. But um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, because most of my friends growing up Cleveland,
Speaker 1: like for a lot of our friends a lot of
Speaker 1: Cleveland fans, and it almost is I guess, uh, Stockholm
Speaker 1: syndrome or just like the more they lose, the more
Speaker 1: you guys love them and believe in them. Yeah, it's fatalism.
Speaker 1: You know. The Browns are five and two right now,
Speaker 1: and Cleveland fans don't know how to act. In fact,
Speaker 1: they're upset that because we lost two games kind of badly,
Speaker 1: but they're like they're angry, and I'm just I feel
Speaker 1: like it's the last two years of Lebron. It's like,
Speaker 1: can we just enjoy this, like it's not gonna last forever?
Speaker 1: Remember how terrible it was? So you I mean, and
Speaker 1: and that's sort of like an interesting fan thing where
Speaker 1: like I wonder, like next year, if the Jets are
Speaker 1: five and two at this point, are their fans gonna
Speaker 1: be like, why do we lose those two games? Like
Speaker 1: do you? It's almost as though, like psychologically we're not
Speaker 1: able to be like this is great because you still
Speaker 1: want more. You want to be seven, to know even
Speaker 1: though you've been oh and seven many many times. I
Speaker 1: think nothing matters to us until the Browns win a
Speaker 1: championship and the Indians win a championship. Um for for myself,
Speaker 1: I think Lebron and Seen lifted that weight off my shoulders,
Speaker 1: and I'm no longer in the Cleveland is now the
Speaker 1: city of champions, and that's how I like to approach
Speaker 1: my sports now. Um, but that's not I find I'm
Speaker 1: in the minority. I I text with all my Cleveland
Speaker 1: friends and they're pretty miserable right now. And I just
Speaker 1: don't understand what I mean O b J went down.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask about so od I mean,
Speaker 1: so what I want to first say, I saw that firsthand,
Speaker 1: and we had a text thread with our friends Zack
Speaker 1: also Cleveland guy, and you were a pretty celebratory I
Speaker 1: was like, ce, like I thought, I was, you know,
Speaker 1: you inviting you guys to glow, to celebrate a little bit,
Speaker 1: and you did a little bit. But then our friends
Speaker 1: Zack was just like, no, this is the worst team
Speaker 1: I've ever watched, the worst Brown Sees. It's not. It's
Speaker 1: by far one of the best teams we've ever watched
Speaker 1: since he's he was four years old. So I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear it. Zach, how you're listening? But what
Speaker 1: is that it is? You know? I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: some it's some sort of fatalism. Maybe we enjoy being
Speaker 1: losers more than we enjoy being winners. It is it
Speaker 1: was happening with Lebron. Like at the last year of Lebron,
Speaker 1: there were people on sports radio who would be like,
Speaker 1: let's just trade Lebron and get what? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And I soak up every second
Speaker 1: of this because he's the greatest ever to do it
Speaker 1: and I want to enjoy myself. So would anyone fall
Speaker 1: for that? Would anyone fall for trading for Lebron with
Speaker 1: a one year left? I guess it's Lakers, Yeah, the Lakers.
Speaker 1: But there was intention. Yeah, it just seems like that
Speaker 1: when it was not in cleaning. Yeah, he probably will.
Speaker 1: It seems like all those baby Lakers make their way
Speaker 1: through there. What's what's the like club and Street, sixth Street,
Speaker 1: he'd be at Liquid or whatever. I feel like as
Speaker 1: as the King of Cleveland would be amazing. Um. This
Speaker 1: kind of brings us to our topic today, which is
Speaker 1: greatest sports cities. C J and I were having a
Speaker 1: bit of a discussion about this before you got here,
Speaker 1: and just sort of like what we were using as
Speaker 1: our criteria. My criteria sort of ended up being events
Speaker 1: that that city can offer overall vibe, sensitivity to social issue.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are there are some cities that I
Speaker 1: was like, listen, you're not on the list anymore. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's been no I'm saying for my list. There's been
Speaker 1: enough UH players on home teams and opposing teams that
Speaker 1: have been like I got called this name there so
Speaker 1: many times that it's like, I do think that that
Speaker 1: you don't get to be on the list. Then if
Speaker 1: that's something that's a habitual issue, I mean, um so,
Speaker 1: I mean and you hear that across the board, you
Speaker 1: hear that hockey, I think it's harder to hear. And
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of black NHL players even though
Speaker 1: there I think there's gonna be a lot more. But
Speaker 1: like in when football probably less too. But in in
Speaker 1: basketball and baseball you hear from players that Boston. It's
Speaker 1: just I mean, I think it's part of the reason
Speaker 1: Mookie is not there anymore. And so that does end
Speaker 1: up being an issue for me. If you if you're
Speaker 1: not nice to your own players, then I don't think
Speaker 1: you're a great sports town. I would agree with that criteria.
Speaker 1: I think I took it from more of a like
Speaker 1: who's got the best fans kind of and yeah, because
Speaker 1: if you're looking from sheer championship volume, that's that doesn't
Speaker 1: impress me at all because that just that just means
Speaker 1: you have yeah s Meigan's going to say the joke
Speaker 1: into the micro phone, Shanaia Twain, baby, that don't impress
Speaker 1: you much. Now you don't get it back. I was
Speaker 1: once talking to a Boston guy in the airport in
Speaker 1: and he's like and we're just like talking sports, and
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I'm actually rooting for the Calves. I'm like, oh, yeah, why,
Speaker 1: he's like Kevin Love's He's like a good white players
Speaker 1: hitting me makes sense? Get out mookie well. And I
Speaker 1: would just like to say the reason that fans is
Speaker 1: fans can be something that takes away from you in
Speaker 1: my criteria, but it doesn't really add you. I mean,
Speaker 1: sports fans are bad. We're stupid. Were and I'm saying
Speaker 1: this is me. I'm stupid, I'm emotional. I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not fact based. It's all sort of like how do
Speaker 1: I feel and what did my dad tell me? You know, Like,
Speaker 1: so it's not you can't even like sports fans are
Speaker 1: so bad and so fickle that they don't even get
Speaker 1: a voice in my domin in my nominees. Well we
Speaker 1: can get up. I just put Michael. I know you said,
Speaker 1: that's how you're define define it how you want to
Speaker 1: define it. Don't let you know. We're gonna have different
Speaker 1: several different reasons, whether it's debate events. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: what the show is, a spirited debate where audience members,
Speaker 1: they say, Megan yells at me. Too much spirited debate, spirited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So okay, what are we? How are we on time? Okay?
Speaker 1: So temper so well, yeah, let's just go right into it.
Speaker 1: How it works. We're gonna have three picks each descending orders.
Speaker 1: Still haven't figured out if it's descending or sending, but
Speaker 1: you're gonna do your third pick, and they we're all
Speaker 1: gonna end on our greatest number one pick. So why
Speaker 1: don't you kick us off with your number three pick
Speaker 1: for greatest sports city? Okay? Um, well, clearly like New
Speaker 1: York Boston, they're all out because they're they're terrible. Yeah. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: did you see how many people wore Mets hats who
Speaker 1: were formerly Yankees fans when the Mets went to the
Speaker 1: World Series. I don't respect that. Uh. I actually to
Speaker 1: respect White Sox fans because they've they've they ride hard
Speaker 1: well when they should have been Cubs fans, but they aren't.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Boston racism. Also, they pretend like there's some
Speaker 1: oppressed sports team, but they've won so many in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years. It's like that it's over. You guys
Speaker 1: are just you know, New York Yankees with like worse accents.
Speaker 1: I do like Fever Pitch and The Town, which both
Speaker 1: have iconic scenes at fent so I will say that
Speaker 1: that's true. Was a Fever Pitch, the one with Jimmy Fallon, Yeah,
Speaker 1: where they were like were losers, were losers and then
Speaker 1: they won and then they're like we got to reshoot
Speaker 1: the end of the movie. He's like, yeah, I remember,
Speaker 1: what a what an opportune time. It's almost like, why
Speaker 1: didn't Jimmy have a movie career after the Red Sox
Speaker 1: one while making a Red Sox movie. Well, I think
Speaker 1: Jimmy is okay. I don't know if I think he's okay.
Speaker 1: I think he likes this gig. We love you, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Do you know the family at me oh wow, wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: now give us your number, So number three, I am
Speaker 1: gonna can I go. I kind of want to give
Speaker 1: it to you can do whatever you want. Minnesota. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: well then my apologies, but like Minnesota Vikings, you know, yeah, Minneapolis. Um,
Speaker 1: and I kind of want to lump in Green Bay
Speaker 1: with that because they tailgate very hard when it's cold.
Speaker 1: I'm just very impressed with how much they go out
Speaker 1: in the cold. The shirts are off. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: give like Chicago honorable mentions for the shirts fat men
Speaker 1: in the cold. Um, So I highly respect that. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're Joe Biden right now. You're like, I
Speaker 1: love Minnesota love. It's like bringing home, not home. Um.
Speaker 1: I fully agree and co signed on this. I mean,
Speaker 1: Peckers fans own their teeth and that's really cool, very amazing.
Speaker 1: And the Twins they always have good attendance, no matter
Speaker 1: how bad the team is or how good they are.
Speaker 1: They always sell out even when it's cold. Like no
Speaker 1: one goes to Cleveland games in in the spring because
Speaker 1: it's freezing, but like people show up for Twins games.
Speaker 1: So I have a lot of respect for that fan base.
Speaker 1: They like jump into ice cold water. It's it's a
Speaker 1: lot of weather based things. But but I I do
Speaker 1: believe there aren't any fair weather fans up there, and
Speaker 1: they're just there. There's no fair weather because there's no
Speaker 1: good weather. No. Yeah, Megan and I went to well,
Speaker 1: we went there for the Super Bowl Minneapolis, spent a
Speaker 1: week there and we went to a Timberwolves game where
Speaker 1: a child ran away and Megan, yeah, assaulted. What it
Speaker 1: was like? This was this was a toddler was like
Speaker 1: running around Is it the target center? I knew it was.
Speaker 1: He's like running around the charge. I mean he's too
Speaker 1: he had a diaper on, like this is like a
Speaker 1: baby toddler, okay, still in a diaper, and he's fully
Speaker 1: like I'm like looking around at people being like is
Speaker 1: he and no one is coming for him? And so
Speaker 1: I start he's just running but he got a little
Speaker 1: short baby legs, so I just start following him. And
Speaker 1: now we're like eight sections away from where we started.
Speaker 1: I mean we're a quarter away around the massive stadium.
Speaker 1: So I'm like they're not coming, and so I go up.
Speaker 1: I'm like hi, and he hits me and then I'm
Speaker 1: like are you okay? And then he kicked me, and
Speaker 1: then another you know, white lady do good or she's
Speaker 1: like what's going on over here? And we're both like
Speaker 1: trying to find like get a security guard. At one
Speaker 1: point he pushed open the door to the outside and
Speaker 1: was like leaving, and then some fucking idiot barreled up.
Speaker 1: A man, the massive man came up, where have you been?
Speaker 1: And just took him by the hand and walked away.
Speaker 1: But the man, I'm like, where did you comfret? We were?
Speaker 1: We were sitting behind the backboard, and now we are
Speaker 1: behind the bench like we've we've traveled around the stadium.
Speaker 1: And I think the kid was just so bad. They
Speaker 1: weren't They didn't really want him back. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: like that Bugs Bunny cartoon where it's actually an old
Speaker 1: man dresses a baby who robs banks. Oh yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: was he smoking a cigar? Yeah he was. He almost
Speaker 1: had teeth that looked like they had been ruined by nicotine,
Speaker 1: like his kids looked like he lived hard, alright, That's
Speaker 1: why when he hit me, I was like, the fun
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't know if you have your shots.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna bite me, like you
Speaker 1: seem like they dragged you out of the damn wilderness.
Speaker 1: And this is some sort of make a wish. But
Speaker 1: just for a little billy bob kids to come and
Speaker 1: watching basketball, Oh my god. Not a plus for Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: Megan's doing time and between the picks. Um. No, I
Speaker 1: did want to add to that. Lombardi leap is maybe
Speaker 1: the most like I feel like when people do that
Speaker 1: in other stadiums, they still called the Lombardi leap. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like such, it's so Lambeau lambe leap. Sorry, why
Speaker 1: am I saying why did you let me say that
Speaker 1: for so many times? Lambeau? Yeah, my bad, the Lambo leap? Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like it's so iconic. Um. And then
Speaker 1: snow snow like Brett Farve and he's not a great person,
Speaker 1: but he's Rogers who person. I'm not gonna say anything
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers. I'm just gonna give um Michael more evidence.
Speaker 1: I also think college sports factor into this, and they
Speaker 1: are oh my god, you get a Wisconsin person saying
Speaker 1: go Badgers. They love it. They love the Gophers up there.
Speaker 1: I mean they ride really hard. My brother lives in Madison,
Speaker 1: and it's like that's a great town. They really they
Speaker 1: do sports nice up there. I think that's a good
Speaker 1: and two states we really need to get back. Okay,
Speaker 1: come on, blue baby. Alright. So for my number three pick,
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk what anybody says. I'm picking
Speaker 1: Indianapolis and here we go. They host said a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: For you to even be on the list of cities
Speaker 1: to host a super Bowl is a really really big deal.
Speaker 1: They have the Pacers, the Colts. They also host the
Speaker 1: largest sporting event in the world every single year. I
Speaker 1: don't really care about it that much, but two people
Speaker 1: come to Indianapolis every year to see a race car thingy,
Speaker 1: a race car race. Can you say that? Um? And
Speaker 1: I think that that's a huge deal. And sports college wise,
Speaker 1: we've got Butler in the city. You've got Purdue an
Speaker 1: hour away, You've got i You an hour away. I
Speaker 1: mean the Notre Dame isn't two hours away. You are
Speaker 1: kind of in like Big ten Heaven there. People ride
Speaker 1: really really hard for those teams. The Final Four comes
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis every like third year. It's the n C
Speaker 1: Double A headquarters. It's the home of basketball. I just
Speaker 1: I think any day in in the if you want
Speaker 1: to see a sporting event that's like cool and fun
Speaker 1: and will be in a venue that is unique. You
Speaker 1: have that possibility. Now. I will also say there is
Speaker 1: gonna kind of a time when these small markets are
Speaker 1: going to have to appeal to athletes, and the way
Speaker 1: to do it is not by saying, please shut up,
Speaker 1: we don't care about your political views. And I see
Speaker 1: a lot of those comments, and it's like, if you
Speaker 1: want Victor Ladipot to stay in Indianapolis, you need to
Speaker 1: be nicer to Victor Oladipot. Like that's just kind of
Speaker 1: common sense. And if we want to have any black
Speaker 1: athletes at all in any of these shitty cities, they've
Speaker 1: got to start fucking acting nicer to them. So your
Speaker 1: number three pick, but your number one thing to ask
Speaker 1: them is to not be racist. I'm gonna say that
Speaker 1: to every single city that's on my list, because every
Speaker 1: single city that's on my list has racist people as
Speaker 1: sports fans that are really loud and really annoying and
Speaker 1: really hateful and dragged down the rest of the city. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's a problem in the entire world. Um
Speaker 1: for his sports, it's yeah, and and even in like
Speaker 1: you know, soccer and European soccer. There's some horrible things.
Speaker 1: I have said a single thing, but but I agree.
Speaker 1: Pacers are always good, cults are always good, like they're
Speaker 1: good sports, and you're right people from Indiana. I love
Speaker 1: college sports. I have mad respect they love high school sports.
Speaker 1: Is crazy? What was like, Oh, I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: my other two cities are in blue states, and this
Speaker 1: is my This is a blue city in a red state.
Speaker 1: And I do think, like, as fans, you've got to
Speaker 1: start being more conscious of how the people are just
Speaker 1: being treated. These are these are not entities, these are
Speaker 1: human beings and you have to be good to them
Speaker 1: on a human being level for them to want to
Speaker 1: stay in any of these cities. Yeah, it's no longer
Speaker 1: we own you. And that just started. I mean it
Speaker 1: was probably with with the letter Dan Gilbert wrote yes,
Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, thank God. And I've heard
Speaker 1: rumors that Lebron and his crew want to buy the
Speaker 1: Calves and I pray for that because not only for Lebron,
Speaker 1: but for players to end, like you know, still the
Speaker 1: prime of their career to like be able to buy
Speaker 1: the team, like yes, they made do the money in
Speaker 1: the first place, like like the Calves are as big
Speaker 1: as an organization operating organization because of Lebron, Like, so
Speaker 1: you should have every opportunity to buy that when you
Speaker 1: know when he has the money. When he left, he
Speaker 1: not only like the dollar amount that the franchise, uh
Speaker 1: like was valued at dry I can't remember the exact number,
Speaker 1: but it was, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: And not only that, it was like the income of
Speaker 1: the city, like it is in incalculable because we have
Speaker 1: proof because Lebron left and then came back, Like there
Speaker 1: are numbers that show, like this, Lebron is worth so
Speaker 1: much money to the greater Cleveland area. It was he
Speaker 1: was insane. Yeah, alright, my third pick um, I was
Speaker 1: having trouble where to put this. Uh it might be
Speaker 1: the wrong order, but I'm gonna say, Los Angeles, why
Speaker 1: do you say that way? I'm saying that way because
Speaker 1: I we live here. I love the sports here. L
Speaker 1: A is notoriously a bad sports town. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: my entry point is basketball. I think it's like, it's basketball,
Speaker 1: it's baseball, It's okay, it's the Lakers. And I will
Speaker 1: say nice. I'm not gonna say that many nice things
Speaker 1: with Lakers. We all know why. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: historic franchise, seventeen championships. Um, the best basketball team in
Speaker 1: the city. Uh, but the Dodgers to despite the Someone
Speaker 1: recommended a book and some some reading about how Dodgers
Speaker 1: Stadium is h was bad for the Echo Park community,
Speaker 1: and yeah, absolutely bad. Um. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: there are a lot of transplants come here from you know,
Speaker 1: these these other cities that we're talking about, and they
Speaker 1: are able to experience sports, like coming from Erie, Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: and living here, like, I love that I can go
Speaker 1: to any major sporting event and for the most part,
Speaker 1: they've been pretty good. Football, Like I saw the greatest
Speaker 1: football game NFL game of like the last ten years,
Speaker 1: that Kansas City Rams game, and it was in the Colosseum,
Speaker 1: not a great pro football stadium, but incredible and like
Speaker 1: the vibes of it was kind of like an even split.
Speaker 1: It was like half Rams fans, which maybe every Rams
Speaker 1: fan to ever exist l a Rams fan in the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: which a lot of transplants from Kansas City. It was
Speaker 1: awesome also to a lot of my friends who liked
Speaker 1: the Clippers, who weren't basketball fans came here and are
Speaker 1: now diehard basketball fans because the Clippers games were affordable
Speaker 1: and they have some got season tickets. Some just went
Speaker 1: more often, and that team has had some historic lineups.
Speaker 1: Lob City, this current one, and also the Olympics. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Olympics. We were supposed to have the second it
Speaker 1: was it was it the second Yeah, was supposed to
Speaker 1: be Oh wait, that's yeah, and then the eighties is
Speaker 1: that when the last one was yeah? So yeah. Most
Speaker 1: athletes live here in the off season because it's a
Speaker 1: mixture of like, you know, the weather is nice, the
Speaker 1: top like trainers and doctors are out here. It's just
Speaker 1: it's yeah. I mean I think every player is like,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna live and if I can live in
Speaker 1: any city, I'm gonna pick Los Angeles. Yeah. We now
Speaker 1: have two football teams, and which is wild. It's very
Speaker 1: very strange, and I feel bad for San Diego City.
Speaker 1: I don't like UM, but I do think it's sucked
Speaker 1: up UM. And also the sparks and also the King's
Speaker 1: We went to an l a King's Amos. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: hockey is people say it's the best sport to see
Speaker 1: in person and to be able to see in person
Speaker 1: at Staples Center. It's it's cool, Like I do love
Speaker 1: seeing hockey in the arenas that we get to see
Speaker 1: sort of the Star Sports Center and Staples Center is
Speaker 1: really cool. Like the lighting they do, you can tell like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a Hollywood production. It definitely beats Cleveland's laser
Speaker 1: light show. You know, we got the flames, but that's
Speaker 1: about it, well, they said, And I think it was
Speaker 1: the Forum with the Lakers that they lit that thing
Speaker 1: like a Broadway play. It was, you know, the court
Speaker 1: was the only thing lit and everything else was dim
Speaker 1: like a show. And they do some iteration of it
Speaker 1: a little bit. Again, like the lighting in my opinion,
Speaker 1: is better at the Lakers and the Clippers, but like
Speaker 1: a lot of stadiums are adopting that, and I think
Speaker 1: it really kind of makes it a real cool experience
Speaker 1: for sure. I I would only disagree because there LA
Speaker 1: is kind of a ship football fan town, but I
Speaker 1: really admire I admire any baseball town, and l A
Speaker 1: is a sneaky like I didn't realize how much people
Speaker 1: love the Dodgers. It's not just because they're good. Every
Speaker 1: year you see kids, little kids in their front yard
Speaker 1: playing baseball and don't see that at least. I grew
Speaker 1: up in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana. That was all football, basketball,
Speaker 1: maybe basketball, you know, some baseball, but like they like
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of Major League players who are
Speaker 1: from southern California. So the Murals has the best sports
Speaker 1: murals we've lived in the other cities. It's like, I
Speaker 1: don't never remember seeing a sports mural in Chicago. Biggie
Speaker 1: gets all the good murals in New York. Yeah, Chicago.
Speaker 1: Chris Farley like raw, Yeah, I want to go make
Speaker 1: one of him. Yeah, in a bear like doing the
Speaker 1: Bears on the side of Second City. Yeah. You know
Speaker 1: what's wild? Suit l A just got this incredible probably
Speaker 1: the most beautiful stadium in the world, and we haven't
Speaker 1: even seen it yet. I mean I thought of it
Speaker 1: because they're playing in it right now Monday football. Like,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to go to so Fi. Oh boy,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get crunk at so Fi. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and then we'll be right back. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we are back with our number two picks for
Speaker 1: greatest sports cities. Michael, you start us off this round too, Okay,
Speaker 1: I am gonna go with Philly. Okay, so they are
Speaker 1: terrible people, um, but I admire their passion, right like
Speaker 1: you were here the stories about like how you know,
Speaker 1: some international soccer team would accidentally score goal on themselves
Speaker 1: and then that guy would get murdered. I feel like
Speaker 1: if it happened in America, it would happen in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: And I kind of admire that they throw. They throw,
Speaker 1: they throw really good riots when they win. Um, their psychic.
Speaker 1: Like Charles Barkley is a thick skin, great dude, and
Speaker 1: he were like, yeah, Philly fans are assholes, like like
Speaker 1: it's so hard to get under Charles barkley skin, and
Speaker 1: like so in some you know, and I know I was,
Speaker 1: you know, ragging on Boston and New York earlier, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's I have a respect Philly. They
Speaker 1: are delusional, but he also realistic. I think the seventy
Speaker 1: sixers are iconic. The Eagles are iconic, and um, and
Speaker 1: and even the Phillies you know, yeah, no, they're they're
Speaker 1: the Flyers. They definitely that's a great pick. They deserve
Speaker 1: to be on this list. Are there fans insane? Yes,
Speaker 1: like every truly fan, I know that is their identity,
Speaker 1: that is like what their reason for being is. And
Speaker 1: it's scary. Like I've you come across Philly fans on Twitter,
Speaker 1: it's scary, but like, man, I'm a front runner myself,
Speaker 1: and I like, yeah, they've stuck through their teams through
Speaker 1: some dark times and yeah when they want, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let Megan bring up which he loves to
Speaker 1: bring up. Oh yeah, I mean, my favorite story out
Speaker 1: of Philly is the man who ate over the man
Speaker 1: who ate horsepoop off the ground. When they were celebrating
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I felt the thing is, no one
Speaker 1: else has ever heard this, so then it's like did
Speaker 1: I make it up? But it is my favorite story.
Speaker 1: But Philly fans they really scare me there. It's like
Speaker 1: so two and the super Bowl that we were at
Speaker 1: in Minnesota was Patriots Eagles, and so we were all
Speaker 1: rooting for the Eagles whole stadium except for like the
Speaker 1: actual Patriots fans there just because you want the Patriots
Speaker 1: to lose. But I was like, oh my god, thank
Speaker 1: god among these people's side, because they do they we
Speaker 1: I mean I went to one Eagles tailgate at an
Speaker 1: Eagles game because I was shooting something there and it
Speaker 1: was like two weeks after the election, and they saw
Speaker 1: like the camera go up and the whole parking lot
Speaker 1: started chanting Trump. So it's like, it's not a crew
Speaker 1: that I want to hang with. I'm sorry, guys, it's
Speaker 1: just not I would wear. I would wear an imposing
Speaker 1: team was Jersey pretty much anywhere, but not not not
Speaker 1: to a Philly game because I just would not want that. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I mean we saw what it was a clip last
Speaker 1: week of them fighting a Ravens and it's like during
Speaker 1: COVID they're still fighting people. They're insane where they wearing
Speaker 1: a mask when they thought, yeah, there's no I mean this,
Speaker 1: this goes for a baseball and we'll probably go for
Speaker 1: basketball since that's coming back too early. Now. It's so
Speaker 1: funny that they did everything right and then they're still
Speaker 1: gonna That's how long this thing has been going on
Speaker 1: if they're coming back too early in their second season
Speaker 1: during COVID. But uh yeah, Philly fans are just I
Speaker 1: mean iverson, uh just him being kind of this this
Speaker 1: outsider like breaking all the rules, which was so cool
Speaker 1: to me, like kind of put in like their other
Speaker 1: like Edry Brian Dawkins, all the like the best Philly
Speaker 1: athletes just reinforced how fucking raising and badass all their
Speaker 1: fans have become so so Yeah, I mean Philly is
Speaker 1: a great choice, but I'm scared of them. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're uh, you know, it's better to be feared than
Speaker 1: than loved, you know. Yeah, I think the boxing legacy obviously,
Speaker 1: like they excel at other sports that are outside of
Speaker 1: the major four too. Okay, great pick. My I'm happy
Speaker 1: someone put Philly on the list because it's like, I
Speaker 1: really don't want to be murdered in my sleep, you know.
Speaker 1: Um My second pick is a change from what I
Speaker 1: was going to do. And I'm gonna say the Bay
Speaker 1: just as a whole. They ride hard too. I Mean
Speaker 1: you see forty Niners stuff everywhere we went to Disneyland
Speaker 1: last year. I was like, is Jimmy Garoppolo here, Like
Speaker 1: it's the number one football team that I see on
Speaker 1: like traveling, and obviously they love the Giants so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the Warriors were in Oakland when and they
Speaker 1: were bad and everyone supported them, and then it sucks
Speaker 1: that they would like went back to San Francisco. So like,
Speaker 1: I like Oakland's fans a lot better. I think this
Speaker 1: season of Last Chance, you like, really gave us a
Speaker 1: window into them loving football that I didn't realize. And
Speaker 1: they also seem kind of scary, like I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to fuck up the Giants fans Raiders were still the Raiders,
Speaker 1: I probably would have put the babe right. And and
Speaker 1: them not having it it's horrible. I mean, and you
Speaker 1: still see Raiders stuff up there, like they love that team.
Speaker 1: They were taken from them. I don't like it, and
Speaker 1: Vegas is definitely not gonna make anyone's list. But yeah,
Speaker 1: a Raiders fan is the scariest fan you could ever
Speaker 1: think of. I think, like those guys that and that,
Speaker 1: just the outfits and the change colors, like the silver
Speaker 1: and the black like they I think that was a
Speaker 1: giant San Francisco Giants. Oh yeah, actually there maybe I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of the fight that happened. I believe it was
Speaker 1: Dodgers Giants baseball who knew? I mean, life for death?
Speaker 1: This ship is crazy, but yeah, I just it's so
Speaker 1: beautiful up there and you and maybe it's because I
Speaker 1: was there last week with your wife, but you just
Speaker 1: see forty Niners stuff everywhere, and you see Warriors stuff everywhere,
Speaker 1: and and it's a like a big kind of rich
Speaker 1: city is what we think of it as techy and
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley esque, but it's like, no, this is like
Speaker 1: a gritty, cool ass, badass sports town too. And I
Speaker 1: love when they hit home runs the Giants that goes
Speaker 1: into the bay and the guys go out in the
Speaker 1: canoes to get it. And my uncle, he's a sample,
Speaker 1: he's a forty nine fan and he just has an
Speaker 1: entire room with forty niners and like he doesn't even
Speaker 1: You just like walk in like nothing, no other inclination
Speaker 1: in the house. And you walk in and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, a statue of Jimmy Garoppolo and You're like,
Speaker 1: what the That's what I want my room to be
Speaker 1: with every team Lebron has played for. If you want
Speaker 1: to set you of Jimmy Garoppolo in our house, and
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I find you fucking Jimmy statue
Speaker 1: of Jimmy Garoppolo. I'm not gonna do anything. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go have the chain on it, have fun. Let the
Speaker 1: statue pick up the kids, all right, should do my pick?
Speaker 1: So my pick, my second pick was going to be Philly.
Speaker 1: So and I'm trying to pick one that I don't
Speaker 1: want to steal on your guys, because I know you
Speaker 1: could do real research. That's what I was gonna pick.
Speaker 1: Actually New York. So Megan said she gave up New
Speaker 1: York and is kindly as a is a nice beautiful wife,
Speaker 1: gave me New York City or New York. Um New
Speaker 1: York as a whole. Well, I mean, okay, so I'm
Speaker 1: missa in New York City. But what teams play in
Speaker 1: New York City besides the next The Rangers do play there, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so the Knicks in the Rangers. But yeah, New York.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say New York. I know it's best cities.
Speaker 1: But like in New York they have what the Knicks,
Speaker 1: the Rangers, the Giants, and the Islanders which play at
Speaker 1: Barclays Now they did they moving it back because people
Speaker 1: were not liking it. The Islanders game there in yeah,
Speaker 1: which are in Neutral the Nets are in Brooklyn. But
Speaker 1: like it's it's historic, Like we have so many famous
Speaker 1: athletes now who were born in New York and that
Speaker 1: was their life. They have just on like a recreational level,
Speaker 1: like if you want to play basketball, you walk two
Speaker 1: feet outside your house, there's a court. You come up
Speaker 1: on that court like West fourth Rucker all like basketball,
Speaker 1: football is big. Like the thing is like none of
Speaker 1: these teams have been good. And again it's like filling
Speaker 1: all these other teams even though the equals one, like
Speaker 1: they are right or die for, you know, And for
Speaker 1: the last decade. I apologize that they've had to go
Speaker 1: through a lot of this stuff. But yeah, the fact
Speaker 1: that like uh Next games still almost sell out and
Speaker 1: and I would say MSG is probably when people people
Speaker 1: were like before I ever went there, there like it
Speaker 1: is like church, and when you walk in it, it
Speaker 1: really you just get this feeling. And I was watching
Speaker 1: a Bowls uh next game there, which wasn't a good
Speaker 1: matchup that year, and it was awesome like this, you
Speaker 1: look up at the ceiling, it's beautiful. They have like
Speaker 1: the first couple of rows or celebrities, like that's still
Speaker 1: a thing, celebrity row, and you walk to it, you
Speaker 1: get on the subway. It's a whole experience that like
Speaker 1: any sports fan, uh, I hope that they can experience it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I respect that they still love the Knicks even though
Speaker 1: they have been terrible for a long time. It's the
Speaker 1: Yankees who really spoil it for me, because I do
Speaker 1: not like the Yankees. They do a very loyal fans
Speaker 1: they and their fan base is massive. I mean you'll
Speaker 1: find Yankees fans all over the world. Mets fans are
Speaker 1: extremely loyal, all we know. I feel like I know
Speaker 1: more Mets fans than I know Yankees fans, and they're
Speaker 1: always like, I don't know why to do this to me,
Speaker 1: and then their kids in it, and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: ship um. Also, the US Open is there every single year.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really incredible event. New York throws events,
Speaker 1: probably better and in more of a headache fashion than
Speaker 1: anywhere else. But yeah, definitely for all of those teams
Speaker 1: to exist there and Broadway and music and like every
Speaker 1: single thing you could ever want to do is in
Speaker 1: that city and the next still draw people. That's fucking insane.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel so bad. This is a whole
Speaker 1: another episode, But I was just thinking, in my head,
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest sports hat is the Yankees. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: not that's not even the sports to me, I would go, yeah,
Speaker 1: Yankees in and Dodgers are like the those are the
Speaker 1: most recognized where iconic sports, and people get scared aired
Speaker 1: of the Yankees just because of their uniforms. I know
Speaker 1: that was from Catch Me if you can, but it's
Speaker 1: true because like the Indians always get eliminated those pinstripes. Baby, Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll take one last break and then we'll be right back. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we are back. So now we are up to
Speaker 1: our number one pick. I'm worried we're gonna have the same. Um.
Speaker 1: I guess I was going to have an honorable mention,
Speaker 1: but it was New York, which I was so generously
Speaker 1: gifted to c J. And so my number one is Chicago. Okay, okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: c J. Well we can share it since we share this, Mike, Um,
Speaker 1: I find Chicago sports fans to be totally insufferable. UM
Speaker 1: cannot handle them, don't want to be around them. They
Speaker 1: annoy me. But I do think when you talk about
Speaker 1: the big boys sports, you got the Bears the black Hawks.
Speaker 1: You have two baseball teams that are always like in
Speaker 1: the news. You know, they're not always winning, but they're
Speaker 1: always like kind of important. I wish more people went
Speaker 1: to White Sox games. And then do you have the
Speaker 1: black clocks. They say them, who are who are an original? Six? Iconic?
Speaker 1: The Bears original? I mean Chicago sort of is a
Speaker 1: town that is defined by what's happening in their sports
Speaker 1: and defined by they're just sports identity. The Bears is
Speaker 1: so big. But yeah, I think their fans suck, and
Speaker 1: I think where the United Center is, they gotta get
Speaker 1: better public transportation to it, and where Soldier Field is,
Speaker 1: they gotta get better public transportation to that. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, Michael, are you going to say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Soldier Field is in the middle of nowhere. I know,
Speaker 1: but it's it's huge, and it's beautiful, and it is
Speaker 1: beautiful parks there so gorgeous when nobody goes to them.
Speaker 1: Why does Us' Field face Indiana and not Chicago? That's
Speaker 1: just that's just an architectural thing. I think it's the highway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the highway. And it can't be that close to Wrigley.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about moving the location. I'm saying it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it faces into northwest Indiana, which is truly just take
Speaker 1: to America, turn and look at a beautiful skyline. But
Speaker 1: what do you mean face like a stadium? Can face facing. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was also gonna add to it. I don't think
Speaker 1: that about the fans. The fans are wonderful. I mean spoiled. Yes,
Speaker 1: the nineties Bulls spoiled everyone. But I just think that
Speaker 1: also to like the teams just by again their uniforms.
Speaker 1: This is like another episode, but like Iconic Classic, never changes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they do some weird alternates. But the Bulls, the Cubs,
Speaker 1: the Socks, the Bears, Blackhawks like well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what what the ethics are on that.
Speaker 1: I think it's okay because it's the black Hawks and
Speaker 1: it's like a specific tribe. But I could be very well,
Speaker 1: now people want to I think you're You're probably right.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some issues, but I know the black
Speaker 1: Hawks have come out and said we're not changing yet. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been the black Hawks games and they don't usually
Speaker 1: have protesters, and I've been to Indians games and there's
Speaker 1: usually protesters. Um, but also too, it's just like it's
Speaker 1: smack dab in the middle of this country, and you know,
Speaker 1: everyone always says you've got a cater to the Midwest,
Speaker 1: and I don't know. Yeah, there's something about you know,
Speaker 1: you got your your New York versus l A or
Speaker 1: even your Boston in New York. But like the fact
Speaker 1: that they're in the middle. Like I grew up in
Speaker 1: Iowa and we got w g N, which showed all
Speaker 1: the Chicago sports, and like I talked to people in
Speaker 1: like St. Louis and all this other stuff, and they
Speaker 1: all love a lot of people love in the Midwest
Speaker 1: just love Chicago sports, and so like they almost make
Speaker 1: up for way more of a region than any of
Speaker 1: these other teams. So yeah, they're a great sports city. Um.
Speaker 1: You mentioned St. Louis, and I just want to make
Speaker 1: sure I clarify You're a terrible fucking city St. Louis.
Speaker 1: I respect that they like baseball so much because that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen a lot. But other than that, Um, but no,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are cute. I like the Cardinals. I just
Speaker 1: hate that city. Uh. And I also just Megan made
Speaker 1: fun of me because I was gonna say, Erie, this
Speaker 1: is an honorable mention. Then we get to your at
Speaker 1: number one, Erie, Pennsylvania, because you can root is where
Speaker 1: I grew up and you can root for within two hours.
Speaker 1: Are the Browns, the Steelers, the bills and yeah, and
Speaker 1: then also whatever probably got w g N Chicago is
Speaker 1: like the Cubs are so famous because of the g N,
Speaker 1: because forty States saw their games growing up. I almost
Speaker 1: feel proud of myself that I didn't become a Cubs
Speaker 1: fan as a child. I was like, I see you
Speaker 1: ramming it down my throat and I don't like it. Um.
Speaker 1: One honorable mention that I know that we will want
Speaker 1: to both say is Buffalo. That's I mean, they will
Speaker 1: go out in a blizzard. They love the Sabers. They
Speaker 1: really they invented Buffalo wings. You know, like we we
Speaker 1: wouldn't even that's for every sport, every team. We would
Speaker 1: think about how bad our lives would be if we
Speaker 1: didn't have those start. That's where the Clippers started. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: so Buffalo, we love you, and I don't maybe get
Speaker 1: another team and then and then you can make the list.
Speaker 1: That's it. Nobody can hear you. Okay, Michael, Okay, Michael,
Speaker 1: you bring us on with your number one pick. Now
Speaker 1: I know what it is. I can't believe I thought
Speaker 1: we were going to have oat. Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: do respect Chicago, but I I saw a lot of
Speaker 1: people hop on the side expandwagon, which rubs me the
Speaker 1: wrong way. And I find a lot of them insufferable,
Speaker 1: but I do respect how much they love it. And plus,
Speaker 1: my wife grew up a block away from Wrigley Field,
Speaker 1: and I think it's really cool that there's like the
Speaker 1: stadiums like in the city you like, and like that's
Speaker 1: very unique. Um, but no, my my number one is Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Cleveland everyone. Um, Okay, So I'm just gonna say, we
Speaker 1: have all the major sports teams. We got baseball, we
Speaker 1: got basketball, we got football. Um, We've been long suffering
Speaker 1: and yet we still love our teams. We've had the heartbreak,
Speaker 1: which I think makes us kind of lovable. It also
Speaker 1: gives us perspective. I've read some study that like, people
Speaker 1: who have bad sports teams actually are better at dealing
Speaker 1: with problems when they become adults because they've dealt with
Speaker 1: with heartbreak. And I've spoken with bulls, like kids who
Speaker 1: grew up in the nineties, and well they're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I never, like, I never realized your sports teams loose. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. It's like no,
Speaker 1: you need to cry for five years straight. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: oh god, and then that championship was just like it
Speaker 1: took a lot off my shoulders. Let me just say, okay,
Speaker 1: So there's also I mean the Browns we have, the
Speaker 1: dog Pound, we have, I mean, the Browns fans are.
Speaker 1: I will put them toe to toe with any insane
Speaker 1: fan base, isn't There's something that like there's more Browns
Speaker 1: designated bars around the country than any other. That could
Speaker 1: also mean a lot of people leave Cleifland. That is
Speaker 1: very true, and that it has one thing like the Indians,
Speaker 1: we don't have good attendance anymore. In the nineties, we
Speaker 1: sold out for like four years straight. You had a
Speaker 1: major movie series based on the team. You gotta imagine
Speaker 1: that helps sell some tickets. But now, yeah, people have
Speaker 1: moved away, but we still but our television ratings are
Speaker 1: always like top like five. I'm making that up, but
Speaker 1: it's it's it's up there. It's it's up there much higher.
Speaker 1: Like we're we are the Cleveland diaspora. Our championship parade
Speaker 1: was like insane. Just the sheer amount of people who
Speaker 1: like came back, traveled from all places in the world.
Speaker 1: Like Trump when he says, like, look, how many people
Speaker 1: showed up to Cleveland from my rally. He takes pictures
Speaker 1: of that, and they've used it several times. They were
Speaker 1: saying for the RNC when it was in Cleveland. And
Speaker 1: then everyone's like, why is j R. Smith? Why she
Speaker 1: next to Jericho? Why next to Jered Gush? It's just JR.
Speaker 1: Kevin Love but zoomed in Yeah, I mean wait, wait
Speaker 1: and can I also, I just have to bring up
Speaker 1: ten cent beer Night because I don't know if anyone else,
Speaker 1: So okay, ten ten cent beer Night. We were, um,
Speaker 1: I can't even remember. I think it was the eighties
Speaker 1: and maybe the seventies for ten cent beer. So Cleveland
Speaker 1: was pretty bad. It was that old Municipal Stadium, which
Speaker 1: is was our football stadium and our baseball stadium, so
Speaker 1: we could fit way too many people in there for
Speaker 1: for baseball, Like it was a terrible like all the
Speaker 1: baseball players hated it. And we had actually just gotten
Speaker 1: a fight with the Texas Rangers like a week or
Speaker 1: two and they started like the Rangers players were like
Speaker 1: shifting on Cleveland. So then they had ten cent beer Night.
Speaker 1: Rangers were in town. You could they like put a
Speaker 1: cap on it like six beers in person, but nobody cared.
Speaker 1: We got like ten thousand more fans than typically come
Speaker 1: to games. They just came to drink. So like in
Speaker 1: between innings, people are running on the field and and
Speaker 1: things kind of turned south because, um, we were down
Speaker 1: five one, so fans start throwing stuff on the field.
Speaker 1: Mike har girl who actually went on to be when
Speaker 1: our manager, he was playing first base, he's, he's. He
Speaker 1: said that, like people through must must have been like
Speaker 1: twelve pounds of hot dogs at him. He there, people
Speaker 1: were chucking. He got an empty jug of wine. It
Speaker 1: was like thunderbird wine. They threw that at him, right,
Speaker 1: They still didn't They still in camp to the game
Speaker 1: until the ninth inning, Cleveland actually had tied up five five.
Speaker 1: A fan and like a twenty year old, runs onto
Speaker 1: the field tries to take the hat off of one
Speaker 1: of the Rangers outfielders. But the guy they but the
Speaker 1: from the dug out. The Rangers dug out. They thought
Speaker 1: he was attacking him, So the fucking the Rangers grabbed
Speaker 1: their bats and they run out to like protect this guy.
Speaker 1: And then the fans they started ripping out the seats
Speaker 1: and they jump on the field and they're like starting
Speaker 1: to YouTube videos document it was like worse moments his story.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys also had a river catch on fire. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: listen Cleveland. There was a lot of rivers that caught
Speaker 1: on fire in the in America during that period. But
Speaker 1: but you know, Kyahaga was was a big one. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a great Actually, the Cleveland players went to
Speaker 1: defend them and then they like went back in groups
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse. Anyways, big riot, And the best part
Speaker 1: was the announcers were calling it from the booth. They're like,
Speaker 1: this is horrible. I mean, it's like the Palace. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that wasn't even our only one. We have Bottlegate.
Speaker 1: That's why they don't. They don't do glass bottles at
Speaker 1: stadiums and make someone's going to get it to that
Speaker 1: and that. But you know what, those rests deserved it
Speaker 1: because they cost us a game and the playoffs. There's
Speaker 1: your Cleveland also, I mean, oh god, Ohio State fans,
Speaker 1: and nobody rides harder than those people. All you also
Speaker 1: hate all of the surrounding states because we have like
Speaker 1: rival We're not actually Indiana, I'm sorry, but we yes, um,
Speaker 1: but we hate Michigan. They looked down on us. That's
Speaker 1: why they don't hate us. Yes, Um, Michigan, we hate
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and then thus most of western Pennsylvania we don't well,
Speaker 1: you know, affiliate. But um, but so anyways, that's that's
Speaker 1: manually at Lebron Lebron. Yeah, he's coming back for it's
Speaker 1: gonna be his feral Season's going to be in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask Michael, because I love hearing when
Speaker 1: you when the Cubs and Indians were in the World
Speaker 1: Series and I still can't get a read on how
Speaker 1: real it got. But your wife again grew up block
Speaker 1: and World Series. I mean, two teams that really deserved it. Um,
Speaker 1: what can you describe what that week? That was hard?
Speaker 1: So my dad is um, he's been a season ticket
Speaker 1: holder for you know, a long time. So he gave
Speaker 1: me two tickets to the World Series game. So we
Speaker 1: were living in New York at the time, and we
Speaker 1: had it. We had our very young child. But we're
Speaker 1: just like, all right, Caroline, our friend can you watch
Speaker 1: watch Frances. We're going We're gonna drive watch the game,
Speaker 1: drive home. So I go and yeah, eight to ten
Speaker 1: depending on traffic. Um, outside of New York. So we
Speaker 1: go and you know, people are was all fun. It
Speaker 1: was all fun. You know at the beginning, we were
Speaker 1: having a good time, and like, you know, Cleveland people
Speaker 1: be like, oh this happened, because it would be like
Speaker 1: I was like with my Cubs fan wife and something
Speaker 1: happened that day. Well, first of all, the part that
Speaker 1: really hurt is that a lot of the Cleveland people
Speaker 1: sold their tickets to the Chicago fans because well, Chicago's
Speaker 1: just got a lot of money. My my dad sold
Speaker 1: two of his tickets and unfortunately, I mean they were
Speaker 1: Cleveland guys, but they were like executives. They were looking
Speaker 1: at me for for cheering too loudly during the World Series.
Speaker 1: I drove them away because I was going insane. That's
Speaker 1: on them. It's the World Series. I'm gonna scream until
Speaker 1: I have no more voice. But it was I mean,
Speaker 1: like you know, Bill, I saw Bill Murray and McConaughey
Speaker 1: and like, there's seven games, so it was game it
Speaker 1: was game five. Really, I mean, I've been too cults
Speaker 1: playoff games where the seats surrounding us have been sold
Speaker 1: to Steelers fans and Jets fans, and you're like this
Speaker 1: is one game, and what were you getting for a
Speaker 1: Jets Cults playoff series? Hundred and four dollars Like the
Speaker 1: Cubs people were paying like basically people could pay for
Speaker 1: their entire season tickets with by selling like one game's
Speaker 1: worth of World Series tickets. So I get it. Cleveland's
Speaker 1: not the richest town. So um. And then we lost
Speaker 1: that game and went on to lose that World Series.
Speaker 1: And let's just say, I don't think I said anything
Speaker 1: for that entire eight and a half hour drive back
Speaker 1: to New York. I was just very sad. So when
Speaker 1: the Cubs won, what was what was that? Like? What
Speaker 1: went down? I still don't know if we fully healed
Speaker 1: from that. I just don't talk about it, and I
Speaker 1: mean it, you know, it was in some ways it
Speaker 1: was it was it was fun. I mean like that
Speaker 1: game seven was like, I think, one of one of
Speaker 1: the great baseball games I've ever watched. Um, But to
Speaker 1: be on the losing side of that, and I just
Speaker 1: remember as a child losing seven and then I think
Speaker 1: it was ninety it was seven when we lost in
Speaker 1: the bottom of the ninth, they literally had the champagne
Speaker 1: in our locker room. And then Jose Mason starts giving
Speaker 1: up like two runs and they're like, oh, we gotta
Speaker 1: clean up this year. Like so, so that's the problem
Speaker 1: when things start going bad in Cleveland, people Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then people just remember it's just we don't we don't
Speaker 1: we like to lose in an excruciatingly heartbreaking manner. Even
Speaker 1: when we were like the Browns were bad, we would
Speaker 1: just like some guy would take his helmet off and
Speaker 1: then the other team would get to kick the field
Speaker 1: goal again and they win, and like a raff once
Speaker 1: threw a flag into our our offensive lineman defensive line blind.
Speaker 1: Remember who was I think was it Johnny Manzel who
Speaker 1: went like likeell? I mean, that was a fun time.
Speaker 1: But when I was reading about Baker today because we
Speaker 1: we talked about it earlier, but O'Dell is out torn
Speaker 1: a c L maybe the one of the worst injuries
Speaker 1: you can get in sports. But would you call it
Speaker 1: a bitch ass? As everyone is now making T shirts
Speaker 1: and hats and profiting off of my genius. But but
Speaker 1: the thing is, like people say, like Baker when he
Speaker 1: is he needs to get the peak of the doubt
Speaker 1: against him or like have a chip on his shoulder,
Speaker 1: And that's when he's at his best and so oddly
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, now he's almost like he lost Odell.
Speaker 1: There might be like a little bit of a run here.
Speaker 1: I mean my opinion. He had one of his best
Speaker 1: games last week. It was against the Bengals. He but
Speaker 1: you're right, he he performs the best one his backs
Speaker 1: against the wall and Cleveland fans it just can't be happy,
Speaker 1: especially Browns fans. Um. So yeah, he will always get
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism until he wins a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And he also doesn't like he plays Joe Burrow. He
Speaker 1: doesn't like that like Joe Burrows the new hot kid
Speaker 1: on the street. So he released from Ohio. You know it?
Speaker 1: Burrow is from Yeah, well he he was on Ohio
Speaker 1: State for a year or two but then transfer because
Speaker 1: but he grew up in Ohio. I can't remember where.
Speaker 1: I think they said like an hour and a half
Speaker 1: from since So what's that that's like Kentucky. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know, I think it's like further
Speaker 1: further North Dayton. Yeah, it's a tough divisions. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the only undefeated team of football is in that division.
Speaker 1: So that's tough. That's an uphill battle that you guys
Speaker 1: were five and two and we're and we're clearly not
Speaker 1: as good as the You gotta win. You have to
Speaker 1: get the wild card, and that's tough. But I'll be happy.
Speaker 1: We haven't made the playoffs since two thousand. We're all
Speaker 1: rooting for it is the Browns median for the postseason.
Speaker 1: I I wish the Browns so much success. I would
Speaker 1: love for them to make it to the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: think they have a better chance of making it the
Speaker 1: playoffs if Ohio goes blue. I agree, that's kind of
Speaker 1: the important thing. And I will say that we won
Speaker 1: our championship. Lebron won the championship on my first Father's
Speaker 1: Day ever, so it was like it was just a
Speaker 1: big day. So yeah, I mean, I forget what because
Speaker 1: now I'm like it doesn't make sense. But like the Lakers,
Speaker 1: Lebron winning for some reason is like for me, it's
Speaker 1: the first big logical win, like a win that everyone
Speaker 1: can get behind. And I feel like that's what we're
Speaker 1: looking for right now, is a win we can all
Speaker 1: get behind. But then again, I was like, oh yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: that's sixteen. That was maybe the last good thing that
Speaker 1: happened in the sports. But yeah, we we love we
Speaker 1: love Cleveland. We always for Cleveland. I like again, I
Speaker 1: once the pandemics over, I really want to visit Cleveland.
Speaker 1: That's like in my tops, we really want to go
Speaker 1: to Cedar Point. I just started following the great sports there.
Speaker 1: You know you can throw empty milk carton. I mean
Speaker 1: that's classic sports turkey legs there. Yeah, um yeah, you guys, Michael,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for coming by from Yeah plug the pod.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got I have a podcast called Doing
Speaker 1: My Best with Michael Joyce. Basically, it's it's like a
Speaker 1: fun parenting podcast. I get cool people who have kids
Speaker 1: or just people with kids in their lives. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some some nanny and some maybe some
Speaker 1: fun and episodes coming up. But it's it's really fun.
Speaker 1: And check it out iTunes, Spotify, you know the deal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are your handles? Yeah, I am at not Mike
Speaker 1: Joyce on Twitter and Instagram and the pod is at
Speaker 1: Doing my Best Pod. You can go to Doing my
Speaker 1: Best Pod dot com as well. Hell yeah, check that out.
Speaker 1: Michael is such a good dude, a good friend fellow
Speaker 1: pod member. Um, so you and your family has got
Speaker 1: us through a lot of this pandemic. So shut out
Speaker 1: to you guys. At you guys, um and and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm at CJ toldno, I'm at Megan Gaily. Is that it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That and you guys were one week away from the election,
Speaker 1: very very exciting. All I did yesterday was lay in
Speaker 1: bed and get high and root against the Titans and
Speaker 1: donate money. So if you have any money to donate,
Speaker 1: please act blue. Just you know who I want you
Speaker 1: to give it to. So give it to the good
Speaker 1: guys and not to the bad guys. Listen. You can
Speaker 1: rate this in the review. I don't care, Um, and
Speaker 1: be safe. Wear your masks. She's gonna get crazy out there,
Speaker 1: so be good to yourself, be good to your family. CJ.
Speaker 1: I love you, Michael, I love you. Go Colts, go Browns,
Speaker 1: Go Dodgers. Okay, we'll see you next week. Bye bye.
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