1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: My sister plans I legally changed her name to my name, 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: so I confronted her. That's honestly just too confusing. We're gonna, 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: if you're being honest, we're gonna figure out what's going 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: on here. I really need help. If you can think 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: of a better subreddit, let me know. My sister is 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: trans and has been in transition for about two years. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: It's been a law. It's been long and complicated, but 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: we've always been really close to siblings, and I have 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: supported her through it all. By the way, this comes 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: from Walrus with an Eye, and if you want to 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: send in your own stories, go to our slash okay 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: story tem subrette and sentiment. Now. At the beginning, she 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: wanted to be called S, which is the first letter 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: of her given name and is also the first letter 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: of my name. So we all embraced her as S 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: and it was great. Last week I logged onto Facebook 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: and I saw that her name had changed to my name. Interesting, 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: my exact name. I thought was a prank. I got 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: you figuring it out, and you know it's gonna be fun, 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: and we're gonna make it part of it. Okay, shout out, 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: we're just throwing mice around. Yeah, shout out to mice window. 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: That was actually mice window that we just passed over there. 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: So last week I logged into Facebook and I saw 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: that her name had changed to my name. Okay, because 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's just an oversight. Maybe not. 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: Maybe she just woke up and was like, am I 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: my my sibling? 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Dude? Could be I don't know my exact name. I 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: thought it was a prank or something, but I called 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: her immediately and she was basically like, yeah, I really 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: like that name and I think it fits. No asking 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: if it was okay, or saying gosh, I hope you 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: don't mind, just total casual oblivion. 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: Op. 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: He says, Uh, my name is really uncommon. It's not 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Anne or something like that. Shout out to all you 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Anne's out there. Yeah, it's no offense. 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: Shout out to Ann getting dunked on right now. It's 39 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: not some coincidence. 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: And I asked her if there was something to this, 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: and she just sounded like she didn't really get why 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: I was even tall talking to her about it. My 43 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: name is also my brand. I am relatively well known 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: freelanced designer, and my name is my business name. So 45 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm knee deep in my name. That's what I'm saying. 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: Then yesterday I heard from one of her friends and 47 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: she is planning on formally going through with a legal 48 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: name change. I wanted to support her like I always have. 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: We're so close and I've always been a huge advocate 50 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: for her. But I'm having an incredibly hard time accepting this. 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Am I making too big a deal about it? Can 52 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: anyone tell me what's going on? Thank you so much? 53 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: We have an edit. But before we get into that, 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: my good friend, Dakota, I do have to pose something 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: to you. Yes, if I had a sibling also named 56 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: John Fry, if you had a sibling also named Dakota Payne, 57 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: does sound kind of fun? I mean, does sound kind 58 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: of fun? 59 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: It probably would be, you know best if you were 60 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: tight knit with that person. 61 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are kind of a packaged deal, right 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: where you go, they go, where I go? 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 2: You go do twins with maybe you know, like it's 64 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: John and then John but spelled with no H, just Joen. 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: So there's technically distinction. Yeah, garbage, garbage John appreciates his h's. Okay, listen, 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: if you are a job without an AH, I don't 67 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: want to talk to you ever? 68 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: Really quick side tangent. Did you know that H is 69 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: the only letter in the alphabet that has no sound like? 70 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: Try to say H by itself. It's just an exhale. 71 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: Nope, but it's not like a phonetic sound, so edits 72 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: Thank you all so much for the advice so far. 73 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. I 74 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: feel a lot less unreasonable. I'm gonna call her again 75 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: and invite her to dinner tomorrow or Friday. I might 76 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: invite one of our mutual friends who she really respects 77 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: and tends to listen to when she doesn't listen to me, 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: But I haven't decided yet. I don't want her to 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: feel ambushed. We'll see how that goes. I'll keep you 80 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: all posted definitely. Bonus edit. Since a lot of people 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: are saying that using a throwaway doesn't help with my 82 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: situation is so unique, I guess when you're the whole 83 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: story revolves around your name. Not having your name, it 84 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: would help. It would help. Yeah, when my situation is 85 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: so unique and identifiable by people who actually know me. 86 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: Oh well, I just didn't want people I know looking 87 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: at my posting history and seeing it there, but if 88 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: they stumble across this, hey, it happens. And now, ladies 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, the moment you've all been waiting for the updates, 90 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: the update, or should I say updates sister updates, Here's 91 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: what happened, slash is happening. I talked to one of 92 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: our level headed mutual friends, who has been really great 93 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: at getting through to my sister in the past when 94 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to. She told me that the 95 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: subject has been a huge thing in their circle of friends, 96 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: with all of those giant Facebook groups where people were 97 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what was going on. Several thought 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: the same change was some weird prank or something like 99 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: I initially did. So apparently all these Facebook groups and 100 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: all their homies are like, what's what's going on? Who's who? Yeah? 101 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: We literally can't tell the difference. Were they really that 102 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: close to you? If they're like, we no longer know 103 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: which one is which? 104 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, like, come on, we got to figure this out. 105 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: The mutual friend informs that no, it isn't a joke. 106 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: So everyone was trying to decide how best to approach it, 107 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: but so far, no one besides mutual friend, who was 108 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: the one who told me that she was going through 109 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: with the legal name change had actually talked to my 110 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: sister about any of it. So the question then was 111 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: whether it would be better if her friends talk to 112 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: her about it, since they could provide an outsider, non 113 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: family perspective, or if it was better for me to 114 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: do it. After going back and forth, we decided that 115 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: I should do it, So I called my sister and 116 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: we made plans to get dinner together the following day, Saturday. 117 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: But that night, Friday, my sister went out to a 118 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: Halloween party with some of her friends and one of 119 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: them decided it would be a really great time to 120 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: confront my sister about the name change and did so, 121 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: and did so saying completely untrue inflammatory things about me, 122 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: like that I was going to file a restraining order 123 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: if she took my name. Wow, oh my god, this 124 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: is not helping the situation. But but math that I 125 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: was embarrassed about her being trans. All the people who 126 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: were there and witness it tell me it was really 127 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 1: really that. Mind you, I am about eight hundred years 128 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: too old for this kind of crap. That's a lot 129 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: of years too old. Yeah, you know, right around the same. 130 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: So my sister calls me wasted and crying, and she's 131 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: hardly making any sense, and I have no idea what 132 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: is going on. I go pick her up and get 133 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: briefed on what happened by someone, and my sister is 134 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: furious at me, But then she's also too wasted to 135 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: really have a meaningful conversation or direct her fury in 136 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: a constructive way. So I get her in the back 137 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: of my car. She she ks, yorks. 138 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: Ah, what a classic combo, dude, I'm pretty didn't Taylor 139 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 2: Swift make a song about that? 140 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: Oh? 141 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, garfin in the back seat and then sleep that's 142 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: a song. 143 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: Might be. No, it's not a song, I say, dude, 144 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift for a tire right now, dude, get out 145 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: of the get out of the Grammy Award handed cut. 146 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: She was just unreleased, unreleased Willie. So I set her 147 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: up on my couch and spent all night figuring out 148 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: what exactly to say. I read through the responses to 149 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: my original post again and try to compile the best 150 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: advice into a concise, meaningful statement against taking my name. 151 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to go compassionate, reasonable route, and not the 152 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I'll sue you route. 153 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, first of all, I don't think you 154 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: could do that. And then also. 155 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: Has this has anything been done legally yet or is 156 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: this just on Facebook? Well it's not even on Facebook. 157 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: So uh. Literally she was going to like have this 158 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: great sit down talk with him, like hey, this is 159 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: how I'm feeling, but some random a friend at the 160 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: party confronted her and she was like, you're out here 161 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: stealing Opie's name, and so ope, he's gonna strale a 162 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: framing file training gorner gets to you if you do that. 163 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: And then also she's not supportive of turned us in 164 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and Nobi's like, that's literally not 165 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: at all what I'm doing. So there's just misinformation. Dare 166 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: I say yacking around? 167 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: There's Yeah, sometimes people just like if the situation doesn't 168 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: concern you, my your buziness sometimes my Opie literally. 169 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: And also it was the friend group that collectively, the 170 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: friend group even talked together and decided to let her 171 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: he handle it. 172 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is weird. 173 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: I said, basically, I love you, tons and you know that, 174 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: and I've always supported you through everything always. My name 175 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: is my identity, it's important to me. Blah blah blah blah. 176 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: Your identity is important to you. Blah blah blah blah blah. 177 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: She had been listening the whole time, then interrupted me 178 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: and responded with the following direct quote, Wow, but heard much. 179 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: Oh oh well, now she asked you, she gets your name. 180 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: It's too late, you butt her, bro, it's too late. 181 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: She got you, She got you your butt her got 182 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: you got she Now she owns your name. I hope, 183 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: he says, yeah, that's right. Wow but hurt much. Yes, 184 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: all of my ear some support and undying love and advocacy, 185 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: And I get a wow, buttered much. So now I'm 186 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: actually peeved, and I am slightly less nice and more 187 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: realistic about the implications that have that us having the 188 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: same name would have. She says, you're making a big 189 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: deal over nothing, and I say, my identity isn't nothing. 190 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: It was like a Lifetime original movie. I asked her 191 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: to tell me why she doesn't think this is a 192 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: big deal. She says that people have the same name 193 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: all the time, citing some kids that lived on the 194 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: same block growing up that were both named Thomas. So 195 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: one would by Thomas, b one is not like the 196 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: other here, like it's literally your sister, and like. 197 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: Well, This is the context of this argument essentially boils 198 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: down to my feelings matter more from like both sides, 199 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: and it's like, yeah, I think. 200 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: The one with precedent wins. 201 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: If it's been your name your whole life and you 202 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: ow and and you have a business at read surrounding, 203 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: and it's like, you know, it's my name first. 204 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: And also like maybe there's a ulterior motive here. I 205 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: don't know, because it's like, y'all, there's so many other names. 206 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: There's so many yeah, other names. 207 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: Literally you could pick out, Like I had a friend 208 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: growing up, like their family they had like nine siblings, 209 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: and they all there, all their siblings, their mom, and 210 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: their dad. 211 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: All their names started with Jay. That is illegal. Well 212 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: that's my family Riley, Ryan, Richard Ryder, and then my 213 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: dad's names Ryan, and then my grandpa's names were Richard, 214 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: so you get it. She was saying it wasn't a 215 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: big deal. I said that it isn't the same at all, 216 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: because we are directly related Thomas B. And Thomas K. No, 217 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: that's no way I went around. It went around like 218 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: this for a while, and I was growing more frustrated, 219 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: and I was worried I was gonna say something I 220 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: would regret. So I had her call a friend to 221 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: pick her up and got out of there before I 222 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: lost it. I told her I wanted her to really 223 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: really think on this decision and if picking my name 224 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: was really being true to her unique self, and that 225 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: although we clearly don't see eye to eye on this 226 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: right now, please just promise me you won't go through 227 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: with the legal name change. At this point, she rolled 228 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: her eyes but agreed. Pinky promised. So there's that that's 229 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: more important than a legal document. But then she said, 230 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't know why you're making such a big deal 231 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: about this. So that was Saturday morning, Okay, Sunday morning. 232 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: It's just so ridiculous for I don't see where you're 233 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: making such a big deal about this. 234 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: You're also making a big deal about this. Yeah, you're 235 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: making it a big deal. But I won't let you 236 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: have my name. So what do you mean? Why am 237 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,359 Speaker 1: I making a big deal of it? You know why? Yeah? 238 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: It's crazy. I feel like they are doing the same 239 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: thing to each other. And instead of like, OPI came 240 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: to the table, which this is not necessarily the wrongest 241 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: approach ever, but OPI came to the table and was like, 242 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: here's why I like want this, right? What if it 243 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: was like, Hey, I want to hear why you want this. 244 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: I want to like understand where you're coming from and 245 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: like what your feelings are on this, and like I'd 246 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: love to share it to you after, but we can 247 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: kind of share, you know. Just feels like a fixation 248 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: to be like I need your name, Yeah, I simply 249 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: your name. So on Sunday morning, I wrote her and 250 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: reiterated what I had said the same day before, but 251 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: also told her that I need some time to cool 252 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: off from this whole thing. A lot of people in 253 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: my original post responded that they thought that she was 254 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: just playing this off as something mean to do something 255 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: sinister like steal my credit rating and open so and 256 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: so bank accounts in my name, or that she's envious 257 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: and that I was born in a female's body and 258 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: lived the same life she is, from her point of view, 259 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: could have easily had one that was free from painful 260 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: struggles with identity. I definitely do not think that the 261 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: former is true for a multitude of reasons, but I 262 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: do think that the latter holds a lot more weight 263 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: than I previously thought. She does see a counselor, and 264 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm sincerely hoping that she is talking this out with him. 265 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Once I calmed down a little bit. Yep, we heio. 266 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: Once I calmed down a little bit, I may see 267 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: if she would be interested in having a couple of 268 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: sessions together. I am hoping that this passes, even though 269 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: that this is happening in all very uncharacteristic. She isn't 270 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: usually lacking this much in empathy and clueless seemingness. But 271 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: for now she is not going to legally change her name, 272 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: and that is a small victory. And we will see 273 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: what happens next. Thanks again for all the support and 274 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: advice on my original post. If people are interested in 275 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: what happens next, I will keep you posted now about 276 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: my parents' involvement of all this. For those who are asking, 277 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: here's some of my parents when my sister came out 278 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: to them. It was a mess. Actually, before we get 279 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: into this, how are we feeling right now, Dakota? I 280 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: mean victory right like, yeah, yeah, at least for now. 281 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: I mean, let your sister try to steal your name 282 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: in a non legal capacity. Maybe yes, I don't know, 283 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: I guess that, but they will if you stop fixating 284 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: on it. 285 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: I bet they will move on. 286 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: That's my gut check here is that it's like by 287 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: feeding into the like no you can't, then it's gonna 288 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: be like the yes I can. And if you just 289 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: are like fine whatever, you're not doing it in the courts, 290 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: then it's just. 291 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Gonna be like all right, I'll be someone else at 292 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: some point. That's my bet. That's my guess. The whole 293 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: journey of transitioning is that is a journey. So probably 294 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: like in her, in her, like in what's going on 295 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: with her right now, maybe there's there's something going on 296 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: where it's like I I see that my sister got 297 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: to live this life and I want that, and this 298 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: is a way of like it. Maybe it feels comforting 299 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: like things of that nature to her, like oh I 300 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: get to finally like I've like idolize and kind of 301 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: like wanted my sister's life. So this is kind of 302 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: like the crown jewel of me, like completing this journey. 303 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: Which is so funny to me because from my perspective, 304 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: it's like that's a completely hollow, empty thing like to 305 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: act to be like to be like I want the 306 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: experience of my sibling. So I'm just going to make 307 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: my name theirs. That doesn't categorically change anything about your 308 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: experience or your perspective. 309 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Doesn't change it. And really, I think it's like OPI 310 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: was saying, it might just be just a a mental thing, 311 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: that's exactly. But at the same time, it's like, hey, 312 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: like what about stepping into like your shoes, you know, 313 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: or like your your new journey as like becoming your 314 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: own person. 315 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, you can want to emulate your siblings, 316 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: but like emulate their behavior, emulate their decisions if they're 317 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: if they're like having a flourishing career. It's like, maybe 318 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: you want to emulate their work ethic, maybe you want 319 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: to emulate their their drive. 320 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: But we have more to this story about my parents' 321 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: involvement in all of this. And for those asking, here 322 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: is the deal with my parents. When my sister came 323 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: out to them, it was a mess. They were a holes. 324 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: They they bought her a gift card to Men's warehouse 325 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: and books about how to be a real man. Nice. 326 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, that's not abrasive, right, not at all cool? 327 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: I just told you I'm not though they paraos regendered her, 328 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Now this is only two years ago, 329 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: mind you, so it's not really water under the bridge 330 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: still still fresh. My sister was obviously really hurts. I 331 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: don't know all the details, but my parents ended up 332 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: changing their tune pretty quickly. I don't know what caused it, 333 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: but they apologize profusely, and my sister forgave them after 334 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: a while. But since then there is no getting them 335 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: to weigh in on anything or talk to her about anything. 336 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: It's sad and totally unfortunate, but I can't change how 337 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: they are acting. It's best at this point to keep 338 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: them out of it, because I know if I approach 339 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: them with any of this, they would just shrug. But 340 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can't shrug off what one hundred and 341 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: four days, oh, one hundred and four days of content 342 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: that you could be listening to right now. The math 343 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: has been done, folks. You go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, 344 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: any of your favorite podcasts appens, search Okay, Storytime, and 345 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: just click play. We can be hanging out with you 346 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: for one hundred four days straight, NonStop, continuous. Allegedly, that's 347 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: like basically a third of a year. Dude, Wait till 348 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: we get to a year we're we're I mean we're 349 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: at and we're at. A number is on the board 350 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: like like Sophia's just ticket face. I we're we're adding 351 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: numbers every day. It's just spilling out every day everywhere. 352 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: But we're almost done with this story. We don't really 353 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: seem to be coming to a resolution at all. 354 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: I mean, I think, oh, you know, nothing's happening legally. 355 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: It's more just like a weird thing you're gonna have 356 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: to deal with. And I really do think maybe like 357 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: a like a counseling session, like a group thing. I 358 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: don't know, it sounds like there's some unresolved like deeper, yes, 359 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: psychological things going on there. 360 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: The counselor together, Yeah, just to like. 361 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: Get equal with each other, you know, because it just 362 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: feels like there's something being unsaid. 363 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I totally agree. I totally agree. I think that 364 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: a group counseling session will help get to why does 365 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: the sister want Opie's name? Because it's like there's a 366 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: trillion names out there, why specifically hers? I think answering 367 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: that question will help them come to a resolution with this. Dakota, 368 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: I told you he was always right. Now, I told 369 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: you he was always right. It's the ax A lottle. Guys, 370 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: what's the names. 371 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: I think it's like a shuttle a shout out to 372 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: the country of Mexico, where these are mostly found. 373 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: I think, shout out to freaking Mexico. Shout out to Mexican. 374 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: Shout out man. Anyways, we're gonna back to the story. 375 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: The reason I'm being so patient and nice with her 376 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: is because I am patient and nice with the people 377 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: I love. It takes a lot more for me to 378 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: get to that point, but once I do, I don't 379 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: give up easily. I am not. Someone suggested giving her 380 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: a trans pass to go whatever, to to go whatever, 381 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: to go wherever she wants, with no repercussions, to do 382 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: whatever she wants with no repercussions. There it is. I've 383 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: always been real with her, but I am also cautious 384 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: about my words around people I love, because in the 385 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: past my realness has resulted in me saying things that 386 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: I didn't really mean. This might sound contrary to everything 387 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: you know about my sister at this point, so you'll 388 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: know you'll have to trust me. She's not one to 389 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: be overly dramatic or use her identity challenges as a 390 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: means to manipulate people. She's usually calm, cool, collected, freaking 391 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: cool sets. Yeah, okay, the situation, the current situation is 392 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: very unlike her, which just to put a bell on 393 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: this leads me back to what Dakota was saying, go 394 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: to a counseling session together. This is totally out of character, 395 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: which me to me means there's something going on under 396 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: the surface that this isn't just like oh like I 397 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: like the name, like that. I feel like there's something 398 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: more and that you'll get closer as sisters by going 399 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: into counseling. Yeah. 400 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: I think maybe the whole wow but hurt much was 401 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: maybe just her being defensive and just a pro and 402 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: if you cause not everyone can like logistically or feasibly 403 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: make counseling happens. If you can't do that, you try 404 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: to have like a really you have like a heart 405 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: to heart deep talk would be. 406 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: Like I'm not coming to you in like a what's 407 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: it called, like an accusatory or like. 408 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be neutral here. I just want 409 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 2: to know why you need to have my name. Do 410 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: you feel the that that is so non negotiable at 411 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: this point in your life? 412 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: H where's the necessity there? And then if she's still 413 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: like wow, but hurt much, then it's like, I don't know, 414 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. What's tell you? She 415 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: won't open up to you. She won't she won't do 416 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: so maybe you know, encourage her to find someone she 417 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: can't open up to. My boyfriend sister and law gave 418 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: him a personal gift for Christmas and it bothered me. 419 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: How how how how personal we'll be talking here? That's 420 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: the question, my friend, Well, throwaway because I don't want 421 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: this connected to my account. I just wanted to start 422 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: by saying that I realized I might be totally wrong 423 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: and insecure in this situation. I just really want another 424 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: perspective or something, because I just can't help the fact 425 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: that this bothers me and I am admittedly feeling jealousy. 426 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Adder one four or 427 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: five two, And if you want to smit your own stories, 428 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: go to our shash okay story time. That's sentiment. That's right. 429 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: So I've been with my boyfriend for six months at 430 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: this point. He has four siblings, three brothers and one sister, 431 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: and we are the shortest relationship in the family. Three 432 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: of his siblings are married, and the other is in 433 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: a very long term relationship. I think the shortest relationship 434 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: in the bunch is five and a half years. 435 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Well, that's that's that's a lot of that's the shortest one. 436 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: That's the shortest one. That's as short as it gets, Dakota, 437 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: that's a lot of that's that's a lot of top 438 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: down pressure. That's correct. Hey, make it, make it to 439 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: ten or your chop liver. Okay, bad joke. I will 440 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: admit I am a bit intimidated and insecure there. For 441 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: Christmas this year, his sister in law made him a 442 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: homemade plushy of this little blue baby dinosaur looking character 443 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: from his favorite game, Guild Wars. The plushy is amazing 444 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: quality and he absolutely loved it, but she didn't make 445 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: one for any of the other boys who also love 446 00:21:52,880 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: the game just as much, not even her husband also 447 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: loves the game. In fact, she went out of her 448 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: way to give it to him without his other brothers 449 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: around except for her husband. Her husband was just as 450 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: excited for her to give his brother the gift as 451 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: she was, but it just fell off to me and 452 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. Sorry, no, 453 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: I just I wanted to just say that it's crazy 454 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: that they both enjoy the game, and it's also crazy 455 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: that we all just lost the game. I graduated middle school, Takoda, 456 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: I've graduated the worst. Well you did too, and now 457 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: like eight hundred people, So here we go. Why would 458 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: she work so hard on something for my boyfriend and 459 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: no one else? And it just felt like such a 460 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: personal gift that I could never match. And I just 461 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: felt like she totally took away from what I gave him. 462 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: I did try talking to my boyfriend about it and 463 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: how I thought it was weird. He said he didn't 464 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: think it was weird at all because she had always 465 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: been closer to him than the other brothers. Well she 466 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't be, Well, shouldn't she be closer to her own husband? 467 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but yeah, that's to go to Are 468 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: you sure? Are you sure you shouldn't be closer to 469 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: your brother in law than to your husband? 470 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: That does sound really weird out loud, Yeah, and probably 471 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 2: it feels even weirder seeing it in real life. 472 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: Well, he didn't get a plushy. I don't know. I 473 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: asked him if he would give it back to her 474 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: saying he can't accept it, and he refused and said, 475 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: I'm ridiculous. That's maybe a little too far, but we'll 476 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: keep going. I just feel like a woman doesn't make 477 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: such a personal gift for a guy unless they see 478 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: them as something more. It's just how I was raised, 479 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: and I hate feeling this way about something like this. 480 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: I talked to my mom and sister and they both 481 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: agreed that it wasn't right and that this was most 482 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: likely the beginning of her trying to push me out. 483 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: Are we sure about this? This is a lot to 484 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: assume from one gift. 485 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like do these people just. 486 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: Suck at gift gifting and they're like this is yeah, 487 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: I think they're comple I mean, listen, we do some 488 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 2: crazy conspiracy theories. 489 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: This is overly. Let me just say, let's talk about 490 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: it for a little bit. So she basically wants to 491 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: or she is uh putting her own feelings onto the situation, right, 492 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: It is possible that she, I mean, maybe she thinks 493 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: he's like the biggest fan of it over or whatever. 494 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: Do I think it's like a little bit much? Yeah, 495 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: but like maybe truly in her head she's like, oh, hey, 496 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: like let me do this. He he really loves the 497 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: game the most of the brothers. That's what she thinks. 498 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: And uh, I'll make it and he'll love it. It'll 499 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: be great. Also, keep in mind the husband was there 500 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: and was also like just as geeked to see him 501 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: get the gift. So it is it is at least 502 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: totally plausible that she did not have any bad intentions 503 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: with this. 504 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because like you also would want because is it 505 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 2: is it the husband's brother or is it a different 506 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: it's her husband's brother. 507 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: It's yes, it is uh Opie's Are they married? Yeah, yeah, 508 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: it's basically her brother in law. So like why would 509 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: you not want husband and his sister in law Opie's 510 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: man and his sister. 511 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 2: It's like, look, by the title, I was thinking it 512 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: was something that maybe had batteries and that you use 513 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 2: in the dark, but like you know what, I'm like 514 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 2: that would be way more uncomfortable with something like that 515 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: and something like this. 516 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: This just seems like it's kind of mostly I don't know, 517 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: like Christmas for the whole family thoughtful, Like am I 518 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, mind, I could just be thoughtful, a thoughtful, 519 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: platonic like family gift. 520 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like you want to have a good 521 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 2: relationship with your brother in law anyway, Like no, oh, 522 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: you know, you just want that. 523 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: I don't want peace. I want problems always type beat. Yeah, 524 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: that is the quote I've been looking for. That is 525 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: the quote I've been looking for. I want problems, not peace. 526 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: I the one piece. I want problems always. So yeah, 527 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: I feel like they're jumping to a conclusion, but maybe 528 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: they're not. Yeah, maybe this is maybe they have more 529 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: context that we don't. That's right, you know, that's right. Okay, 530 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: so we're gonna keep going. So I just can't help 531 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: feel like she was trying to make him like her 532 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: more than me because he said that she has never 533 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: given him anything before, and this is our first Christmas together. 534 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know what to think or if I'm 535 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: overthinking this completely and we have another update and I'm 536 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: not going to overthink it and dive right in bang. 537 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: So my first post wasn't popular by any means, but 538 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: I got a decent amount of comments, so I figured 539 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: I would update. I went a few weeks without saying 540 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: anything else about the subjects because everyone on here seemed 541 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: to disagree with my side of things. Then last Saturday, 542 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: he told me that he was going to be spending 543 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: the day at his brother's just to hang out. We 544 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: generally make plans on Saturdays, but I hadn't had the 545 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: chance to make official plans with him yet. I just 546 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: figured it was implied at this point, so I asked 547 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: him if I would be allowed to go over there 548 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: with him. That's when he told me that it was 549 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: just going to be a day with him and his brother. 550 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: So I reminded him that since it's his brother's house, 551 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: then most likely his wife will be present too, so 552 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: I didn't really see how it was fair. Ultimately, it 553 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: blew up and I told him everything brought up the 554 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: gift again and just how I feel intimidated by everyone 555 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: and feel like his sister in law is on some 556 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: pedestal or something because she gets to be there and 557 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: I don't. I also mentioned how I just feel like 558 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: I was being pushed out by her and the gift 559 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: made me feel uneasy. And maybe I guess the argument 560 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: is not this is necessarily trying to get with him, 561 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: but is she trying to put her to shame, to 562 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: kick her out of or like shame her out of 563 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: the family, which is at least more plausible. Yeah, but 564 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: like and the shame is coming from like what like you're, oh, 565 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: where's your custom made plushy and custom things and everything in. 566 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: The exactly So it seems like this is coming from Wow, 567 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: she gave such a better gift than me. Now I 568 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: feel like that's a problem. 569 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: Oh right, right right right? 570 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: Yes, And they're sure there could be, but there's not 571 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: enough info so far in this post. Yeah, I guarantee 572 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: you that in the comments for this, one of the 573 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: top ones is gonna be info. Why do you think this? 574 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: Like what other things have happened to make you think 575 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: this is? Like she's she she cares more for the 576 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: brother in law than her husband. Yeah, where where are 577 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: you coming from with that? 578 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: Totally? Yeah? I think someone said that, oh yeah, miss 579 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: jay Bird, Op is hella insecure? Like yeah, I think 580 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: that that she's like kind of projecting a lot of 581 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: stuff on these issues when it's like you you don't 582 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: know that for a fact, we can't. We can't just 583 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: like blanket. 584 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 2: As It's like, Op's like, no one reacted like that 585 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: to my Hallmark candles that I bought? 586 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: What well? They people? They stinky? They stinky candles. It 587 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: doesn't smell like cinnamon. It smells like those mugs. Is 588 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: like Gwyneth Paltrow candles for real, for real? Well they're good. 589 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: What the freak am I doing? I'm gonna get back 590 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: to this story, so here we go. He was frustrated 591 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: and told me that he was going to his brothers 592 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: and that he would to me later. So I spent 593 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: all Saturday morning on edge and he just completely jealous. 594 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: Then around one pm, his sister in law called me. 595 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: I guess he gave her my number and asked me 596 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: if I was free to meet her for some coffee. 597 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: I was confused, but agreed to have coffee with her. 598 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: I expected it to be awkward at the coffee shop. 599 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: She wasted no time to tell me that my boyfriend 600 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: had told her everything. Dude. Also, dude, elle, move on 601 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: boyfriend part Just go like you have a conversation. Yeah, 602 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: maybe she's being insecure, but like, don't go freaking run 603 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: and tell her me. Ye not a cool boyfriend moved. 604 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Cool boyfriend moved not at all. She said she wanted 605 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: to me for dinner because she wanted me to see 606 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: her face and see that she was genuine in everything. 607 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: She has to say she wanted to explain that she 608 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: had no feelings for him in the way I was 609 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: implying to him, and no intention of pushing me out. 610 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: She said her original plan was to make the plushy 611 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: for all the boys since they played the game, but 612 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: it took her way too much time to make one, 613 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: so she gave it to her favorite brother in law. 614 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, I think this is I think I 615 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: could believe this. It's like if she did this and 616 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 2: then gave it to her ex boyfriend, then I'd be 617 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: more like, that's weird. 618 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's her brother and brother law that everyone 619 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: you want to you want to want to make a 620 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: good impression in the family, you want to build a 621 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: good bond, Like Yeah, I don't see anything optically wrong 622 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: with that at all. I question why not her husband, 623 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: and she said that she lives with them, and he 624 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 1: knew she was making it in the first place, and 625 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: that she could make him want any time and just 626 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: wanted to give that one to be a surprise Christmas present. Again, 627 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: facts are checking out. I told her that I still 628 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: kind of thought it was inappropriate since he was in 629 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: a relationship. Now, sorry, I just I just realized where 630 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: all this is coming from. It's it's all the it's 631 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: all the there's got to be this like crazy emphasis 632 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: on the long term relationships and the respect and the 633 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: boundaries and this and that, and it's like the hyperfixation 634 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: on that, and I just feel like this person's like, well, 635 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really this is not that serious where 636 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: it's like this needed to go to your husband. 637 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: It's like wow, and it's like I could live, Hello, 638 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: I live. I could give this to my husband any 639 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: day of the week. 640 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's she's like over analyzing, like oh god, 641 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm like I've only been in for like a year 642 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: and it's like they're like five and a half and like, frick, 643 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: Like you're just trying to like show me off because 644 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: you're like in such a long relationship. 645 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: Is yeah, And it's like, no, come on, it's okay. 646 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: It's just human behavior, normal human behavior. 647 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: So I told her that I was still that I 648 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: still kind of thought I was inappropriate since he was 649 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: in a relationship now, and she just paused it, didn't 650 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: say anything for a few seconds. Then she asked me 651 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: if there was anything else that was bothering me. Dude, 652 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: the more I hear, the more. I'm like, dude, the 653 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: sistern in law is freaking great, like yeah, navigating us. 654 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: I used today as an example and said it bothered 655 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: me that he went to her house and told me 656 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't come because it was a day with his brother, 657 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: even though she would obviously be. 658 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: There still fishing though, because wait, I'm am I confused. 659 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: The other day Opie's Opie's husband was like, oh, hey, 660 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go hang out with brother, you know, and 661 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: she's like, well, can't I come. He's like, well, this 662 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: is kind of like, uh, you know, brother time, you know, 663 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: hanging out. But you said it was a brother time. 664 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: But guess guess what, you're there, sister in law. How 665 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: can it be brother time if you, sister in law, 666 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: are living in the house that you co own with 667 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: your husband. 668 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: It's like right, It's like, but his wife is there. 669 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah she is, But where I'm hanging out 670 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: with him? 671 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what are we talking about? We just like 672 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: freaking watching some soaps or something while they're in the 673 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: in the boys room. Yeah, I mean boy stuff. 674 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: It's literally it's being like suss about like yeah, but 675 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: his wife is there. 676 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. Like, how about you get 677 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: in you why don't you get in the car, get 678 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: get out of the house. That that you that is 679 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: your house, Get out of your house and drive away, 680 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 1: drive away, because you are clearly ruining the sanctity of 681 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: a boys time. Can you imagine saying that to your wife, Hey, 682 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: you gotta get out. It's boys boy's day. Go to 683 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: the go, just go get Like what yeah, Dreadale, Like 684 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: it's like a pet, like you just let her out? 685 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: Like what are you trying about, Opie? So she told 686 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: me that that she told me that it is a 687 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: day with his brother and that just because she lives 688 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: in the house doesn't change that. She said that she 689 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: just kept to herself, doing her own things while the 690 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: boys played video games with each other, and that my 691 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: boyfriend came over to her when she was in the 692 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: kitchen to talk to her about me. Briefly, I didn't 693 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: say anything. I still felt a bit jealous, but I 694 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: just didn't know what to say. She then asked me 695 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: if I had anything else I wanted to get out, 696 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: and I declined. She said that she didn't want to 697 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: part ways without giving me some advice. She went on 698 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: to say that she thinks I'm a very nice girl, 699 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: and that the entire family feels that way, and wanted 700 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: to remind me that all of the spouses and significant 701 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: others were new to the family at one point. She 702 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: then went on about how it takes time to feel 703 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 1: a closeness with everyone and that she went through it too. Again, 704 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: I can't see the error. 705 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like one person has a healthy comprehension 706 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 2: of like relationship dynamics in a family and the other 707 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 2: one might not. Crazy hot take there, stay toxic, stay 708 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: freaking toxic. 709 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: So God, Florida John is here today, Florida John, baby 710 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: Canadian tucks John from Florida to you. As crazy as 711 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: your jean jacket blends into that couch. I am the 712 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: couch one with his environments. You're so right, though. She 713 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: then said that she didn't want to come across the 714 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: wrong way, but that I needed to work hard on 715 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: my insecurities or else I would lose my boyfriend. She 716 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: went on and on saying how I am so nice 717 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: and that I'm ruining a good thing by letting myself 718 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: overthink these things and by being so insecure. She told 719 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: me to really think about how I am acting over 720 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: his own sister in law interacting with him. That's when 721 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: my stupid brain made me so, Well, if you were 722 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: to get a divorce, then you wouldn't be his sister 723 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: in law and you would be just another woman in 724 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: his life. 725 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: Oh what a that's a great hypothetical. Hey, if the 726 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: moon were made out of cheese, would you eat it? 727 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: Because that's yes, that question has about the same weight. 728 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: I love cheese. Oh God, give me the moon cheese. Hi. 729 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: Hey my hi. If the moon might aspire ribs, would 730 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: you ate it? Like? What are we talking about, folks? 731 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: That's not the case. I mean, that'd be fire. Though, 732 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: it would be fire. That was the moment that it 733 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: finally hit me how crazy I was being. She gave 734 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: me a look and said, well, we aren't getting a 735 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: divorced so. 736 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, but that's not happening 737 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: anything else. Yeah, what if the oh my god, the 738 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 2: huns are attacking. Oh the Mongol hoard is Oh wait 739 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: no they're not, They're not here nothing. Well, if the 740 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 2: Mongol Horde came and raided our villages. 741 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: Be different. It ain't happen in jan And I just 742 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: felt completely embarrassed and apologized. She then very nicely told 743 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: me that on second thought, she thinks I might not 744 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: be ready for a relationship at all, and that I 745 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: really need to work on myself. That was pretty much 746 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 1: the end of it, and we parted ways. I spent 747 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: the rest of the weekend crying and hating myself. Oh no, 748 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: my boyfriend didn't call me or text me at all. Finally, 749 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: on Monday, he asked if he could come over. So 750 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: he came over and asked how it went with sister 751 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: in law, and I figured he knew everything, but he 752 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: said that all she said was that he needed to 753 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: talk to me. Turns out that we didn't. It turns 754 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: out that he didn't talk to me all weekend because 755 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: he was angry with how I acted about him going 756 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: to his brother's house and then bringing up the gift again, 757 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: and he just needed some space. I mean, honestly, I 758 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: kind of you know. 759 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 2: I don't like the ghost. If that's the case, just 760 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 2: say that, don't be silent about it, Yes, say it. 761 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: Communicate like I just need some space for me this weekend, 762 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: and we'll talk on money, and it's like, don't don't 763 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: freak out, still care about you. I just need a 764 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 2: little time to process my thoughts solo style, and like 765 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 2: people just need to learn how to respect that and 766 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 2: not freak out about it, because if you freak out 767 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 2: about that, I don't think maybe you're ready for, you know, 768 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 2: the real relationship, or a healthy one at least it's 769 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: bit in hard facts. 770 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: Because sometimes separation is healthy. It's bitten hard facts. Man. 771 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: He told me that he wasn't going to put up 772 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: with this type of behavior and that is putting way 773 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: too much unnecessary drama into his life. As I'm sure 774 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: you're all probably guessing he proceeded to break up with me. 775 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: We weren't guessing that. That's not what were you guessing that? 776 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I was kind thinking it was bleeding there, 777 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: see the you bro. It just seems like. 778 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: It just happened so sudden. I just wasn't ready for it. 779 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: I feel like this isn't the first time something like 780 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 2: this has probably happened. And it's also like, you know, 781 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: it was a it might have been a game time decision, 782 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 2: you know, like it might have been like a all right, 783 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: I'm taking some time to collect myself now, I'm gonna 784 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 2: go meet back up with you and let's talk. And 785 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: like literally it could have been like in the moment, 786 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: like I'm realizing through this conversation now that it's like 787 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna be compatible. If this is 788 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: like your point of view, this is your perspective, I 789 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 2: don't think that going forward. I think we should just 790 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: stop wasting our time and figure something else out. And 791 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: I think OP definitely needs to like, you know, like 792 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 2: like spending the whole weekend like being angry at yourself 793 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: and like hating yourself over this is like not also 794 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 2: not the right way, yeah to go about that, And 795 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 2: it's like you don't need to you know, what are 796 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 2: the ages here, like the early twenties fourteen? Just kidding, 797 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 2: I mean there do be Like I mean, you're never 798 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: too old to be emotionally immature. 799 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: We don't know, but remember I think there's an age 800 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: disparity here too, because everyone else has had five and 801 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: a halfy relationship. Yeah, this one is like it's like 802 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: really new. 803 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: So there's probably that top down pressure too from the 804 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: family of like, oh my god, I need to be 805 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: in this long relationship and it easy to be this 806 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 2: and easy to that and blah blah blah blah, bah blah, 807 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 2: and but self imposed and the boyfriend is just like, hey, 808 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: maybe I'm not about that. 809 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's okay, as I'm sure you're probably guessing. 810 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: He proceeded to break up with me. He told me 811 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: he really cared about me, but just can't imagine how 812 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: bad it will get in the future if I'm already 813 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: acting like this with people who are family. I begged 814 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: him not to leave and that I would do everything 815 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: to change, and he just put bunch, Yeah, no, it's 816 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: just day too, got a tango. Man. I don't think 817 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: you're ready for a relationship like that, OPI. I think 818 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: you need to do some work in the uh. 819 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: I think you need to get cooking in the mental kitchen, 820 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 2: get a little get a little perspective, maybe do a 821 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: little you know, it's so easy to just and I 822 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 2: do realize it's so easy to say you just need 823 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 2: to go get some therapy. 824 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: But there's a lot more that just goes into that. 825 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: It's really easy to say that, yes, but like that 826 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: is the best way I think to approach a situation 827 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 2: like this where you you're kind of like lost in 828 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 2: your own thoughts. You're spending a whole weekend hating yourself. 829 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: The same way cool that when remember when she was like, oh, 830 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: I said this out loud and I realized how crazy 831 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: it was. Guess what happens when you say out loud 832 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: all of your thoughts to someone else, unfiltered and have 833 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: a space for it. 834 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, they they're able to go, hey, maybe let's let's 835 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 2: unpack that a little. Let's let's revisit this sentence. Yeah, 836 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: let's can we analyze that a little more critically? And 837 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 2: then you go, oh my god, you're right. Sister law 838 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 2: wants to my f my boyfriend because she made him 839 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 2: a plushy and it's his favorite game. 840 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: Now, I will say therapy is a good option, but 841 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: there are other things like you know, if you if 842 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: you go to Spotify or Apple podcast or your favorite 843 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: podcast out and look, you do this thing called typing 844 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 1: you search. Okay, storytime, there are one hundred and four 845 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: straight days of content that will give you good goofy advice, 846 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: good advice, goofley, good advice, goofully. You know, so that 847 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: is also hey, hey, listen, guess what guess how expensive 848 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: is that to go to? 849 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 2: Literally like it's well, I guess it varies, you know, 850 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 2: it depends on where it's free. 851 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: It's free. It's Spotify. Yeah, oh yeah, Spotify is free. 852 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: All the podcasts are just free. Yeah that's okay. 853 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it varies from free to also free 854 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 2: and also zero dollars. 855 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. 856 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you just need to have a device that 857 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: you can listen to it on. So how very much 858 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: that costs? 859 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: Is? How how much it costs? Well Dakota gets the 860 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: full Excel spreadsheet of all the god. 861 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 2: It's like figuring out like the like the carbon emissions 862 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 2: cost of like say, all right, well they burned this 863 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 2: much diesel to mix the concrete and then make this 864 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: and then do that and then blah. 865 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. Yeah we're gonna we're gonna get 866 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: back to this story and all that could have said together. 867 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: So I haven't heard from him since, and I feel 868 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: like I had my heart ripped out and stompedn't Oh 869 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: oh my god, And I know that this is all 870 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: my fault. I have my mom and sister telling me 871 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: how it's good riddance. By the way she learned this 872 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: from the mom, I think, there you go, and how 873 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: he broke up with me so that way he wouldn't 874 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: have anything holding him back. 875 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: From his sister in law, and this just broke me. 876 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 2: So there's the top down right there, there's a top 877 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 2: down pressure. 878 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: I am so done with my family and the way 879 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: they put these toxic ideas in my head. Wait a minute, 880 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 1: what this is peas family? But right? So wait, did 881 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: you just be is ope? Self aware? She now is? 882 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: But it's too late. 883 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 2: Okay, that's confusing to me. That's just really through me. Well, 884 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 2: I mean she did so. 885 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: Like earlier in the conversation with Decision Law, she did say, 886 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 1: this is when I realized how crazy I was. Why 887 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: I hope she has some self awareness, but then keeps tripping. 888 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 2: It seems like she immediately became aware that her family 889 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: is the one poisoning her brain. 890 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: Here she I think she knows that, which is great. 891 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: I think that's good. Yes, So yeah, not a happy 892 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: update from here. I am planning on working on myself 893 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: and hope to someday maybe convince him to give me 894 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: another chance. I don't know why I wrote this update. 895 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: It just feels so good to It just feels so 896 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: good to get out, I guess, and further convinces me 897 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: I need to change. There we go, We're left on 898 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: the cliffing, but you know what, he just keep just 899 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: get on that train and just keep going. 900 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, that's not even to me, that's not even 901 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 2: a cliffhanger. That's like you've now become acutely aware that 902 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 2: your family is toxic and you have behaviors you need 903 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 2: to change. And that's like a lot of people have 904 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 2: to spend a lot of time in therapy to even 905 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: get there. So like you're doing great that, don't you know, 906 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 2: try not to focus to I gotta say, they got 907 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 2: to be young if that's how they're thinking about the 908 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 2: the six month boyfriend and like all this stuff, It's 909 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 2: like I get you know, six months is not nothing 910 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 2: relationship for sure, But it's also not like you know 911 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: the it clearly this was not a soulmate or type scenario. 912 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: It's not this is not like the end of your 913 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: romantic life. It's like, you don't need to don't. I 914 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: would not get hung up on this one guy being 915 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 2: like maybe I can get him to take me back. 916 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: It's more just like work on yourself, focus on you, 917 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: and then the right situation will find you. 918 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: And when you're doing all that self work, how well 919 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 1: is that going to prepare you for the next relationship, 920 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, like you who you are going. I feel 921 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: like Opie will look back on this, especially now that 922 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: she's hey, she's being aware, She's like, I want to 923 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: keep going down this path, Like I feel like she'll 924 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: look at this as kind of like a pivotal moment 925 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 1: of like, yeah, so get ready, folks. My sister disrespected 926 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: my boyfriend at a party, but my family wants me 927 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 1: to apologize. You should just be the bigger person, no 928 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: and squash them. Yeah, yes, squash like a bug. Oh hey, guys, 929 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: this is a long one, so buckle up. There's a 930 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: couple of people in my family involved, so bear with me. 931 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: So I female thirty one, was invited by my mom 932 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: to attend my nephew's first birthday celebration for turning one 933 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: years old. Congrats baby, Hey, keep keep in mind my 934 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: mother invited me, not my sister. By the way, this 935 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: comes from Soggy Swing twenty seven o nine and if 936 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: you would to send it your own soggy story got 937 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: all our slashtokey story time freaking send it in now. 938 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: This was in November. I of course am going because 939 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: I love being an aunt and want to be supportive 940 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: at the time. I was seven months pregnant with my 941 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: second child. When I was visiting my mom's house, sister 942 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: female thirty nine was also there, and when discussing plans 943 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: for my nephew's nephew's birthday, she tells me that I 944 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 1: don't have to come, and that my first child, who 945 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: is three years old at the time, can come. How 946 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: are they gonna get there? The baby car there are three? 947 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just like one of the little they just 948 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: like watch Fred Flintstone bro. When I was in I 949 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: was scooting, I could have gotten there. 950 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 2: It's like, sorry, boss, I was late to work as 951 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: I got stuck by in one of those baby cars. 952 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: Maybe I couldn't poop in a toilet, but could I 953 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,280 Speaker 1: drive a baby car? Like ten miles to my auntie 954 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: percent undred percent? Now? I was shocked, but told her no, 955 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: why don't I come to my own nephew's birthday celebration. 956 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: I thought it was weird for her to say that, 957 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: but I brushed it off at first, and it went 958 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,919 Speaker 1: right over my head that my mom fifty six sent 959 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: me the invite, not my sister, via text, in a 960 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: cute invitation flyer. M so just breaking that down, So 961 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: I understand that Opie's mom had sent Ope the invite, 962 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: not her sister, but the sister's now saying that she 963 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: can't come. When I read the details, I saw my 964 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: sister and her child's father wanted to have it this 965 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 1: child's this children's event space, which is forty minutes into 966 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: the city away from my house. This meant getting on 967 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: the expressway and in that direction. I get anxiety. So 968 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: maybe is it like a oh, like, you don't have 969 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: to come if you don't want to, because I don't 970 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: know if you don't want to go there? 971 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't Is this like a tactical They're like, oh, 972 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 2: I definitely know she won't go because she doesn't like 973 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 2: driving on the highway in that direction, which, like, you know, 974 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 2: to each their own, but quite ridiculous to be like, yeah, 975 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 2: just let your three year old go without you? 976 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 1: What is that? What is that? That's a little bit insane? 977 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 1: What does that take? Yeah? Yeah, this is weird. I'm confused. 978 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: So my pregnancy wasn't a smooth sailing and I had 979 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: some difficulty. So I asked my boyfriend of eight years 980 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: forty one if he could take me and it would 981 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,479 Speaker 1: be nice for us to buy a gift as well. 982 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: At first he didn't want to go, but of course, 983 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: seeing as I'm pregnant and he's super supportive of me, 984 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: I didn't have to convince him to go. For context, 985 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: my sister dislikes my boyfriend and he doesn't care much 986 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: for her either. For years, she would walk past him 987 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: and ignore him, rude. She would make him feel bad 988 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: by acting like a total witch towards me. Even at 989 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: other family gatherings. She would ask me why is he 990 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: even a how? Or I had you are coming along 991 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 1: and proceeded to ignore him and me the entire time. 992 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: What is this? He's like, why did you even why 993 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: didn't your baby come here? Out? Lie? Beg baby to 994 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: the bar? Like your baby's sug right, but you guys 995 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: are trash. Let's give that baby a bottle? Yeah? Just 996 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 1: like what like do they do they? Yeah? Let's dude. 997 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 1: I'm stupefied here. 998 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 2: I just got hit with the stupefi Harry Potter SPUPI 999 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 2: fuck nice And I'm like. 1000 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: Oh, hey, what's going on? Guys? I don't know babies 1001 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: can drive cars? You have a husband. No, I don't 1002 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: know how to act in a social setting. That's crazy. 1003 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: That is the wife right now, that's sister. Oh now, 1004 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: she had a nasty attitude. She's known in the family 1005 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: as the one with the bad attitude, tough exterior, the 1006 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: don't went mess with her, and no one has held 1007 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 1: her accountable for all the time. She's made people who 1008 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: come around her uncomfortable, and though we are grown now, 1009 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: my mother doesn't do anything to check on her on 1010 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: how she acts, especially towards me and my partner, like 1011 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 1: this past summer she cussed at me and my boyfriend 1012 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: out through a text over a misunderstanding and made it 1013 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: about my boyfriend as if I was in the wrong. 1014 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 1: She has made me feel horrible for years, ever since 1015 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: I was younger. She wasn't so nice growing up, and 1016 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 1: it has affected my self esteem and not knowing how 1017 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: to stand up to her. But as the youngest of 1018 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 1: three girls, I was always deemed the spoiled one, and 1019 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: I've never disrespected either of my See how they didn't 1020 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: deny that they were spoiled, though I've been considered the 1021 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: spoiled one, but I never disrespected my sisters. But I 1022 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: was spoil The fact is that the youngest effect is 1023 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: very real, very but there was no disrespect, but there 1024 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: was no disrepect, but I was spoiled, allegedly, allegedly and allegedly. 1025 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: So fast forward to the day of the birthday party place, 1026 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: which was further than I expected from our house. Uh 1027 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: and with no parking available. Street parking up north is 1028 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: a nightmare. Come visit la Uh. I was so glad 1029 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: my boyfriend drove. I came into the party happy and 1030 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: all smiles, were ready to have some fun. And if 1031 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: we recalled just quick foreshadowing, sister said, you don't need 1032 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: to come, okay, but she's there. Exactly exactly is this 1033 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: is the rug. I sensed the rug. The hands are 1034 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: on the rug, and the rugg is getting your enemy yanked. 1035 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: I came in with positive vibes, just for my sister 1036 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: to act stand offish with me. The entire time. I 1037 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 1: was oblivious as to why. But for context, remember when 1038 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: I said she cussed me out like I was a 1039 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: random person on the street. She also cussed out my 1040 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: boyfriend in the text, calling him out his name. Yeah, 1041 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: so she gave me a weak apology and I felt 1042 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't genuine. I told her she had no reason 1043 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: to do that to me. Absolutely no reason, and she 1044 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: chose to hurt me with her words, and that I 1045 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,720 Speaker 1: would appreciate if she left my boyfriend out of things 1046 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: and didn't call him out his name. She tells me 1047 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: she doesn't have a problem with him and she'll only 1048 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: speak to him if he speaks to her first. Mind you, 1049 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: him and her haven't had any verbal altercation, and through 1050 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: all the disrespect over the years, he's been calm, cool 1051 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,240 Speaker 1: and collected. But he slowly distanced himself from my family, 1052 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: especially my sisters, who he tried his best to be 1053 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 1: cool with, only keeping contact with my with my mother, 1054 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: but lo and behold. A verbal altercation happened at my 1055 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: nephew's birthday party, Yes, the one turning one years old. 1056 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: Gotta love that. 1057 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 2: In case you forgot, I'll getting into vocal spa at 1058 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 2: the toddler's birthday party. 1059 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: Dude. That that is maturity right there. That's how you 1060 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: you know how to read a room? Yeah, I guarantee 1061 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: you it's They won't even remember when they're older, dude, 1062 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: that's right. It'll just get baked into their frontal love. 1063 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: They won't even know why they are the way they are, 1064 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: and then they'll access and be like that's crazy. I'm 1065 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: a madman, as I was unaware because I was too 1066 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: busy mingling with my mom's friends, who I invited because 1067 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: my sister doesn't even have mom friends. Heck, she doesn't 1068 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: even have any friends period. So the verbal altercation happened 1069 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: because she hit my man with her child's car seat, 1070 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: said excuse me, but didn't give him enough time to 1071 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: move in which he only called her a weirdo, and 1072 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: she hit him with you're a witch. Mmm, I'm guessing 1073 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 1: that you're actually the witch. That's what it sounded like. 1074 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: This is some You're trying to do some sorcery to 1075 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: turn it around, but it is on you. 1076 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 2: You're trying to cast I am rubber and you are glue. 1077 00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 2: But in fact it's you. 1078 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:04,919 Speaker 1: Just do you when Gotti of Leavio saw which how 1079 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: I didn't hear that happening, I don't know, But my 1080 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: boyfriend didn't say a word to me about it. Neither 1081 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: did my mom's coworkers, who were there as well with 1082 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: their grandchildren. Not until we're getting ready to go, I 1083 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: had already said my goodbyes to everyone else and was 1084 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: going to say goodbye to my sister. I almost forgot 1085 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: to tell her about the gift we brought, because she 1086 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: was barely speaking to me, so I came over to 1087 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 1: say goodbye and give her a hug. She had this 1088 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 1: angry look on her face and was stiff when I 1089 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: reached for a hug. I finally asked her what was wrong, 1090 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 1: and she immediately loudly shout out at me, your witch 1091 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: booty baby daddy. Hey, maybe don't say that he can't 1092 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: handle these car seats. I'm chucking on them. Maybe don't. 1093 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 2: Maybe don't be saying that. Hey, hey, your man can't 1094 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 2: handle a car seat. 1095 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 1: That's not my fault. That's not my fault. He's not 1096 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 1: built for it. Man's not built for the car seat. 1097 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: Man's not built for it. Dude. He called me a weirdo. 1098 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: The glote wasn't even over. He called me a weirdo. Well, 1099 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 1: you're acting like a real weird Oh, dude, that is 1100 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: so true. That is wow. I was completely taken aback, 1101 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: and at the same time, in my mind I was like, what, 1102 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: that's it. That's what got you so mad. I almost 1103 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: thought it was a bad joke being played on me. 1104 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 1: I was a little angry with him at first because 1105 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that this has happened. She proceeds to go 1106 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: off on me, shouting like he's a witch. He's lucky. 1107 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't fight him, I said, whoa, whoa, she's pulling 1108 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: up with the You've heard of fisticuffs, but have you 1109 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: heard of baby seated cuffs. Yeah, that's it's like a WWE, 1110 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: but instead of the folding chair, it's just like, oh watch. 1111 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 3: Out, they got the they got the toddlers from one. 1112 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: To two get car seat. There's plastic everywhere, just like 1113 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 1: a little like boxing giant boxing gloves, just like strapped 1114 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: to their arms, or they're a whole like cyborg made 1115 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: out of them, like the hull cans, but they're just Yeah, 1116 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 1: they're like a real car seats, a robot made of 1117 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: baby car seats. You know, Dakota, I think you've transferred 1118 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,919 Speaker 1: your your tangents into me. I think I think that's 1119 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: I think we just our spirits switched places. I think, 1120 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: so wow, because that was a real good way. Thank you. 1121 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: Like I can't get over that, just like the like 1122 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 1: strapping it on, like it's like a like the Captain 1123 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 1: America's shield. Step. Hey, he inspired me, man, that was 1124 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: a Dakota inspired quip right there, I'm just listening to 1125 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: your words hashtag free Jakota. He is listening to our words. 1126 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: Tight tight, tightly real tight. I said, whoa, but I 1127 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 1: couldn't get a word out. She tells me, I'm only 1128 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: going to take a side anyways, and how she was 1129 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: unaware that he was going to be there. I felt 1130 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: embarrassed and walked away from her because she was so angry. 1131 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: After that, we left, but not before my boyfriend apologized 1132 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,240 Speaker 1: to my mom and other sister, who was just standing 1133 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: there the whole time, not saying anything but looking at 1134 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: me as if I deserved it, if he if he 1135 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 1: ever offered them in any way. He told them, if 1136 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 1: they have an issue and it's about him, just come 1137 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: to him about it and they can talk it out 1138 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: instead of taking their frustration out on me. My sister 1139 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: just tells him that he should have just dropped me 1140 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: off and waited outside. Dude, that sister is bugging out 1141 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 1: like it's it's so weird. What a weird move. You 1142 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: are weird? Weird, that's weird. Stop. Yeah, yeah, you are 1143 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 1: a weird though. That was that needed to be said. 1144 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 1: You do not want peace, You want problems. Always a buffet, 1145 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: and that's really weird at a one year old's birthday party. 1146 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: At your one year old's birthday party, you're making somehow, 1147 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: making this about your beef someone you should really not 1148 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: be striving to have beef with. But they can't handle 1149 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: baby seats apparently not, so you gotta throw them at 1150 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 1: the apparently not work. Yeah, so I couldn't believe it. 1151 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: Neither can we. So we go home. Days go past 1152 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 1: and I don't hear from my family. I finally call 1153 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,439 Speaker 1: my mother to let her know that the situation really 1154 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: stressed me out, and I'm already going through some complications 1155 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: with my pregnancy, so for my sake and my unborn 1156 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 1: child safety, I won't be coming to visit for a 1157 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 1: while until after my child is born. And my oldest 1158 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 1: sister is always there and I don't feel like facing 1159 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: her at the moment. But before I could get anything out, 1160 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: my mother cuts me off and tells me I'm wrong 1161 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: for inviting my boyfriend without asking my sister. 1162 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 2: That's that's actually when it's put like that, that's tricky, 1163 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,840 Speaker 2: but also like they do have problems and he wasn't invited, 1164 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 2: so wait, okay, hold on, Yeah, I mean if you're 1165 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 2: not invited, you're not invited. I wonderful, Opie, I wonder 1166 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 2: if you also I have an unreliable narrator here. I 1167 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,439 Speaker 2: think his sister's crazy for joy. 1168 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean, but like maybe maybe we've been off the 1169 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: whole time and the boyfriend sucks? What if everyone sucks? 1170 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, there's got to be a reason, right, 1171 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 2: there's got to be a reason beyond what we've read 1172 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 2: here why he is so not liked And if the 1173 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 2: mom is immediately like, yeah, you shouldn't have, like is 1174 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 2: backing up now? Mom's now backing up the sister because 1175 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 2: it's and it is weird. 1176 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, it's like, why do you now? 1177 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think a little differently. I think you 1178 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: knocked my brain a little loose in the sumo ring. Dude, 1179 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: something's going on here. I don't know info. Boyfriend bad, 1180 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: good question mark? Let us know. We're gonna figure out. 1181 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: So before I could get anything out, mother cuts me 1182 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 1: off and tells me I'm wrong for my viting my 1183 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: boyfriend with asking my sister once again. I was taking 1184 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: my aback and my mother asked me if I thought 1185 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: I was wrong too. I told her, no, I didn't 1186 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: think I was. And my mother gets mad at me 1187 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: and says, if it was her and she didn't like 1188 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 1: my boyfriend, she would be pissed off too. I told 1189 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: her I didn't call. I didn't call it to go 1190 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 1: back and forth with her. She frustrated me to the 1191 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: point of me forgetting what I wanted to tell her 1192 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: in the first place. So I quickly told her that 1193 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: I won't be coming around for a while and I'll 1194 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: let her know when the baby is born. Oh and 1195 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: another layer of this complex lasagnia has revealed itself. And 1196 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 1: if it has already been revealed, I'm sorry for my 1197 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: brain not being I'm also lost. I think I think 1198 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 1: it might be the the simple answer, which is just 1199 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: everyone sucks here. Yeah, it's like maybe don't like ah 1200 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: ah ah ah, you don't know why. Boy, this is 1201 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: like one of those the TikTok videos of like white 1202 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: people lasagna where it's just like three giant slabs of cream, 1203 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: cheese and noodles put around and they just have these 1204 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 1: weird steps and you don't know what's going on. Italians 1205 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: and they're like an Italian told me how to made this. 1206 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: That's not Italians. I'm sorry for what you just had 1207 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: to hear. It's cream cheese. It makes sense. It makes sense. 1208 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: It's creamy and it's cheesy cheese. 1209 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,600 Speaker 3: Is the step nephew of ricotta? 1210 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: You know why? Just that is confusing me? Yes, we're confused. 1211 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 1: We're as confused as the cream cheese repot a casserole. Okay, 1212 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: we are, absolutely our gabbers are flasted. 1213 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 2: But it's like, you gotta know that you're starting stuff 1214 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 2: if you don't invite the baby daddy. 1215 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 1: But also like, is the baby daddy trash? I know 1216 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: people who can get in really who are who have 1217 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 1: been in relationships with trash people? That's right? And they're like, 1218 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I are they trash? And it's like, dude, yes, 1219 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: how do you not see it? So it's like there 1220 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: could be more of that. Yeah, And they're always real 1221 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 1: reluctant to say that they're trash. So I am sensing 1222 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: that the boyfriend sucks. Interesting, that's my spidy sense. Honestly, 1223 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 1: I think it's the sister. I think she's the main 1224 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: culprit here. No mom backed her up. I told her 1225 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 1: I let her know when the baby is born that 1226 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: I love her and goodbye, and I hung up the phone. Afterwhids, 1227 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: she sends me long decked messages saying that I'm ungrateful 1228 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 1: and how I never appreciated what she's done for me 1229 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: and for my son. All false op He says. Things 1230 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 1: escalated when my boyfriend taketed my mom and told her, 1231 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 1: respectfully to stop ganging up on me, and it's stressing 1232 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: me out. Oh I think I was wrong. Uh, Oh 1233 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: I might be wrong. So my mom does not take 1234 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: this well and curses him out and says a load 1235 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: of unnecessary things to him and disrespects his family and says, 1236 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: see who will be there for us, and that he 1237 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: is cut off. We had no contact with him. Thanksgiving 1238 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: went past, then my birthday in December and none of 1239 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 1: my family reached out to wish me a happy birthday, 1240 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: all because my mom assumed I wanted to cut them off. 1241 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Remember she met me. She never let me finish what 1242 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to say in reference to the phone call 1243 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: that was, and then eventually you don't even remember what 1244 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell her, I'll see you when the 1245 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: baby's born, which at face value were like, okay, you're 1246 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: cutting her off and letting her onto the baby. But 1247 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm guessing we're we're imminently going to get the context 1248 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 1: we so doesn't really need. Everyone in this story needs 1249 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: to go to the moon. You had to dude to 1250 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 1: go over there. Man, you gotta do a couple of 1251 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: revolutions and run it back, see tranquility. We need to 1252 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 1: figure it out. But in a text, in a text, 1253 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I told her I wanted space from my sisters, not 1254 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 1: cutting off contact, but she did what she wanted to do. 1255 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Cut to now. I sent my mom and sisters a 1256 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: letter before Christmas stating I missed them and how if 1257 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: bringing my boyfriend to the party seemed disrespectful, and I 1258 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,400 Speaker 1: set boundaries with them about being rude to him. I 1259 01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 1: told them I'm here when they are ready to talk. 1260 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 1: So far, I feel like it was a guys, you're 1261 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna get it, You're gonna see you're gonna see it. 1262 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: And it's like you still told your mother, Hey, i'll 1263 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 1: reach out to you after the baby's born. I'm yeah, 1264 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: where what are the boundaries? And she's like, I didn't 1265 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: cut her off, and I'm like, I mean you literally 1266 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 1: said I won't talk to you till the baby's born. Yeah, 1267 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, is it is that next week or is 1268 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: that like it? It does seem she's just seven months pregnant, 1269 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 1: so but yeah, it does seem like a whatever, shut up, 1270 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 1: don't talk to me. Yeah. Ope. But also I'm way 1271 01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: more on OP side now than I was five minutes ago, 1272 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 1: because it does sound like the mom and the sister suck. 1273 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: Mom and sister suck, and the apple did not fall 1274 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 1: far from the tree unless OP sucks. I think OP 1275 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: might also suck. Moon rocket to the moon, trebu shay 1276 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: to the moon and everyone gets to look at the 1277 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 1: blue marble and go, can't we all just get along? 1278 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,439 Speaker 1: That's what the moon is for. That's what you guys 1279 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: need to think about right now? Can we all just 1280 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 1: get along? Long and hard, ladies and gentlemen. Well, only 1281 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 1: my mother reached out after that letter, and she didn't 1282 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 1: say she was sorry. She didn't even want to get 1283 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: into the details of what happened. But she tells me 1284 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 1: I should apologize to my sister, and she doesn't want 1285 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: to get involved in me and my sister's drama. How ironic. 1286 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: I told her no, I don't think it was wrong, 1287 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 1: but I do see how she feels. But it wasn't 1288 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,120 Speaker 1: my intent to anger her. I told her how they 1289 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: didn't consider me being pregnant, and the distance I didn't 1290 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: want to travel alone, and just how my mom blindly 1291 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 1: took my sister's side without leaving me to speak in November, 1292 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 1: without letting me speak in November. Maybe we're getting more contact. 1293 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: She gave me the excuse I said earlier about her 1294 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 1: assuming that I wanted no contact, even though I have 1295 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 1: messages telling her the opposite. And if you are as 1296 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 1: confused as we are right now, and not just the story, 1297 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 1: but in life, you need a guide. You need six 1298 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 1: people who can tell you what is right from wrong, 1299 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 1: what is good and what is goofy ladies and gentlemen, 1300 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: go to Spotify, Apple podcasts, anywhere you listen to your 1301 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: podcast and type of okay, story time. We have one 1302 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: hundred four days of content. All it dicks, that's all. 1303 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 1: What's that? We just added another episode crazy, it's another 1304 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 1: hour plus of content and we are also we are 1305 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean to step over you are there? 1306 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Step it. You're confused. We are so confused. And if 1307 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: anyone didn't catch that, you saved it because at the end, 1308 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: oh people, it double negative into that sentence that did 1309 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 1: not need to be there. That would have confused us 1310 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 1: even more. I had to correct it. Everyone needs a 1311 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 1: break from each other. It's it's going to the moon, vibes, 1312 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 1: go to the moon, think about it, run around and 1313 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, but are they Are they all going 1314 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: to mutually agree, Hey, we need to break and let's 1315 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: take some time and then come back. I really feel 1316 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: like the mom and the sister are the kind of 1317 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: people who'd be like, oh, so you now you need space. 1318 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 1: You just hate us, You just hate all of us, 1319 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: don't you. You're just the worst. You want some space, Yeah, 1320 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: you want some space. Well, guys, what, here's enough space 1321 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: for a baby. Here's here's space. That's the baby car 1322 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: seat from the top rope. That's right. Well, there's a 1323 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: little bit of the story. Maybe all of our answers 1324 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: will finally be answered in these next three sentences. Let's 1325 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: buckle our seatbelts. Let's see it, baby seat belts. That is, so, 1326 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 1: it's only me and my mother that are speaking now, 1327 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: and she's acting like nothing happened and wants to come 1328 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 1: around me and the kids. But she still hasn't spoken 1329 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: to my boyfriend at all. Me and him aren't comfortable 1330 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 1: with my mom keeping our son anymore, and she mentioned 1331 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,439 Speaker 1: a few times how she wants too soon. I haven't 1332 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: told her yet that I don't want to. I'm still 1333 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,439 Speaker 1: hurt by all of this. Am I the a whole 1334 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 1: for not apology and for not apologizing to my sister. 1335 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 1: My mom keeps trying to pressure me to apologize after 1336 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:30,720 Speaker 1: I sent a letter initially and nothing was clear and 1337 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 1: everything was the same. 1338 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let us know what you think about that. 1339 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: People asking for a TLDR. I couldn't even give you 1340 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: one TLDR. Everyone ever, what everyone sucks TLDR unclear. It's 1341 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,520 Speaker 1: completely true. There was a toddler's birthday party and it 1342 01:05:53,680 --> 01:06:00,080 Speaker 1: escalated from there, and now we're on the moon, and 1343 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,400 Speaker 1: that is going to have to do boom, because that's 1344 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 1: the end of that story. 1345 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 3: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives. 1346 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Time for okop relash. 1347 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 3: I helped my brother in law cheat on his wife, 1348 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 3: but then I did something worse. 1349 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 1: Why this is Game of Thrones level betrayal. Dude. 1350 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 3: It's like siblings stabbing siblings in the back or doing 1351 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 3: other things or yeah, or using something else to stab 1352 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 3: I mean, yoh, you know all right. My sister, Gwen 1353 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 3: thirty eight female, has been married to Jacob thirty nine 1354 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 3: male for ten years. I've had a best friend Ellie 1355 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 3: twenty one female since middle school. She's always been around, 1356 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 3: but in twenty twenty I started inviting her more because 1357 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 3: her mom dot COVID, so she didn't have any family around. 1358 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: Sad damn it's rough. That sucks. 1359 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,960 Speaker 3: So I invited her to holiday parties, family get togethers, 1360 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 3: et cetera. I wanted her to feel part of the family. 1361 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 3: But then last night we found out from text My 1362 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 3: sister found on Jacob's phone that he's been sleeping with 1363 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 3: Ellie and she might I did no pregnant, pregnant? 1364 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god? What is people? 1365 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 3: I feel like that is terrible on like two fronts. Yeah, one, 1366 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 3: the cheating terrible obviously obviously, But to wrap that, bro, like, 1367 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 3: are you kidding me? You're gonna cheat on your wife 1368 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 3: and dog has a freaking decency before you cheat and 1369 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,760 Speaker 3: either get a vasectomy momentarily or you know, you know, 1370 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 3: use use Trojan brand condoms. 1371 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: It's it's the the Sopranos thing. It's like you kiss 1372 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 1: your your mother with that mouth like that to your 1373 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 1: side piece to get a little dome. 1374 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, I'm not saying don't go to your side piece. 1375 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 3: Obviously you are a depraved individual that needs uh that 1376 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 3: kind of thing, but at least at least have the 1377 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 3: common decency and just like peace of mind to just 1378 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 3: wrap that Willie god piece of. 1379 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Trash of honest. 1380 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 3: Garbage rolling around in the wind, grabbing sdds and depositing 1381 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 3: babies wherever you see shit. My sister is devastated, obviously yep, 1382 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 3: and took their kids to come live with our parents. 1383 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 3: I feel so guilty. I'm the one that brought her 1384 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,559 Speaker 3: around and invited her to stuff. I feel like it's 1385 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,599 Speaker 3: all my fault. My sister's life is ruined. The kids 1386 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 3: are really upset, and I have no idea what to do. 1387 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we should put all the blame on. 1388 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 3: OPI I think it is you. You literally set you 1389 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 3: set it all up. You set your brother in law 1390 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 3: up with your super hot, frisky friend. You know now 1391 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 3: she has daddy. 1392 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 1: That was bad. 1393 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,439 Speaker 3: Maybe that's too deep deep, it's too deep too me. 1394 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that it does. It does suck that maybe 1395 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 3: maybe she's you know, maybe like the friend is kind 1396 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 3: of acting out. You know you lose your dad at 1397 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 3: twenty one, literally, And I'm not saying like to excuse 1398 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,719 Speaker 3: her behavior, yeah, by any means, but just to empathize 1399 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,679 Speaker 3: a little like you're in a low emotional place, emotional place, 1400 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 3: and try to get validation from another father figure. So 1401 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 3: tripple screw that guy for like I mean, he's basically 1402 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 3: like taking advantage of this like emotional low point. 1403 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,679 Speaker 1: Almost certainly, almost almost certainly. 1404 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's thirty eight, bro, eight man's oldest, geez man's oldest, 1405 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 3: And here's this girl dad recently died looking for a 1406 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 3: father figure, probably because of that dating older and then decides, Oh, 1407 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 3: these older other I'm assuming a lot these other older 1408 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 3: guys on dating apps aren't doing it for me. I 1409 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,839 Speaker 3: want someone who's married. I want someone who is closer 1410 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 3: to family. There's there's there's some brewin beneath the surface. 1411 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,520 Speaker 1: Not good. 1412 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 3: But John, what's it? I thought that wasn't bad enough. 1413 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's an update. 1414 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: It cannot get worse, Bro, But show me, but show 1415 01:09:58,840 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: me what do you got what? 1416 01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,320 Speaker 3: My sister is still really upset. Get over it. Come on, 1417 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:10,360 Speaker 3: it's been a whole posting cycle since since Jacob cheated 1418 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:10,640 Speaker 3: on you. 1419 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 1420 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,240 Speaker 3: Also, she's not doing well at all. The kids all 1421 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 3: have a really good relationship with Jacob, so that didn't 1422 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 3: make it easier. Seems like he's good with young people. 1423 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 3: They were asking about him constantly and crying for him. 1424 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 3: She went back home two days ago. She's living in 1425 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 3: the main part of the house and he's living in 1426 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 3: the garage apartment. Okay, so they're kind of like living 1427 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,880 Speaker 3: separately a little bit. My sister asked me to talk 1428 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 3: to Ellie, which holy shit, terrible friends, terrible friend. 1429 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 1: Bro. 1430 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,719 Speaker 3: If I found out one of my girlfriends my dad, 1431 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 3: I would be mad. To god. 1432 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 1: You'd be a little peeve. 1433 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be a little I'd be a little peeved. 1434 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,000 Speaker 3: And that goes to all the okop fam, I consider 1435 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 3: you my extended friend group. Oh god, please stop my dad. 1436 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 1: Our live show, our first live show, is just women 1437 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 1: lining to just get at mister dad. 1438 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 3: I've heard the talk around town is my dad is 1439 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 3: a good looking dude. 1440 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 1: Bro, he looks great. 1441 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's fifty seven, still freaking got abs. 1442 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,480 Speaker 1: Bro, gravy. 1443 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's signed me up. 1444 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1445 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 3: Everyone's trying to please mister please please God. No, So 1446 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 3: my sister asked me to talk to Ellie to find 1447 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 3: out as much of her side as we can. She's 1448 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 3: pregnant and apparently her and Jacob have been dating a while. Yikes. 1449 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 3: He told her my sister had a drinking problem and 1450 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 3: it was emotionally abusive to him the kids. I told 1451 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 3: her that was a lie, and if she really thought 1452 01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 3: that was true, why wouldn't she talk to me about it? 1453 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 3: Good point, She said she thought I'd lie for my sister. 1454 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 3: I know you all think I'm crazy because I'm so emotional. 1455 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,880 Speaker 3: I'm not usually, but I'm so sad for my sister. 1456 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 3: But I also feel guilty because I basically set them up. 1457 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,640 Speaker 3: I sat down and sobbed the other day because like, 1458 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 3: she was my best friend for so many years, and 1459 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,559 Speaker 3: she must have just completely lied and misled me and 1460 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 3: made up stories to keep her dating him a secret. 1461 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 3: She wasn't really my friend at all, and I had 1462 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,280 Speaker 3: no idea. And I know this about my sister and 1463 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 3: her kids, and I know that they are good people. 1464 01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 3: Everything just really sucks now. The only one who doesn't 1465 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,919 Speaker 3: seem affected by any of this is Jacob. 1466 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 1: Jacob, who is just playing with his kids, is normal. 1467 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,680 Speaker 3: My sister said, he almost seems cheerful about all of this. 1468 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: Jacob, youde, Bro, what is you know what? Sam, I'm 1469 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 1: not team Jacob. I'm not team Jacob Fricking Edward all 1470 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 1: the way. Yes, dude, Jacob is a sociopath. He's a 1471 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,719 Speaker 1: trifle and piece of trash. 1472 01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:02,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I mean, hey, one redeeming quality and I'm 1473 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 3: serious about this one one redeeming quality at least. It 1474 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,600 Speaker 3: seems like he's a good father to his kid. But 1475 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,160 Speaker 3: he's playing with his kids. He's not letting his personal 1476 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 3: life getting away of time with his children go on. 1477 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 3: It's a professional, bro, he is a value. He is 1478 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:27,519 Speaker 3: a professional god. But wow, so many people suck in 1479 01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,759 Speaker 3: this story, specifically Ellie and Jacob. Specifically Ellie and Jacob. 1480 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,560 Speaker 3: But you know what isn't trash, John. 1481 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:35,719 Speaker 1: What is not trash? 1482 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 3: Them our suburn in our sashal Kop Show. 1483 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,360 Speaker 1: It's the opposite of trash. 1484 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 3: It's the opposite of trash. 1485 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: It's gold. 1486 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 3: And if you want to submit some story gold so 1487 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 3: we can you know, read it and react to it, 1488 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 3: Please go to our Sacik show and read it, and 1489 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,760 Speaker 3: then we'll pick the best stories and read those shit 1490 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 3: out of those things. But you know what else, you 1491 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 3: like this story, you're probably gonna like this other one where, oh, 1492 01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 3: he's children. Seven of them don't look like suspicious suspicious