Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is a special post debate Verdict with Ted Cruz
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Speaker 2: watch the debate. I watched the debate. What were your
Speaker 2: big takeaways? Well, tonight was a big and consequential debate.
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Speaker 2: Today Center. This was a obviously important debate for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: It was really a rollout and a sens where she
Speaker 2: could be challenged. What we quickly saw though, was a
Speaker 2: three on one debate against Donald Trump and ABC News.
Speaker 1: What an end kind donation they gave.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ABC moderators did not do a good job
Speaker 3: that They clearly were biased towards Kamala Harris. We saw
Speaker 3: that from their live quote fact checking, where repeatedly they'd
Speaker 3: follow up what Trump said by contradicting him, by disputing him.
Speaker 3: Many instances their fact checks were wrong and they never
Speaker 3: never could be bothered a fact check a word that
Speaker 3: came out of Kamala Harris's mouth. It was very one
Speaker 3: sided on that front. But look, ABC News was the
Speaker 3: least consequential part of tonight. What Tonight illustrated is that
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is utterly incapable of defending her own record.
Speaker 3: And what we saw tonight, this was her stump speech,
Speaker 3: and this was her DNC convention speech, cut into sound
Speaker 3: bite and repeated. She memorized a series of vignettes, a
Speaker 3: series of little segments, and just repeated those talking points
Speaker 3: at nauseum. And it really became clear with the very
Speaker 3: first question of the night, and the first question of
Speaker 3: the night that David Muir asked her, is the question
Speaker 3: that you and I and Monday's podcast said is the
Speaker 3: single most important question of the debate and really of
Speaker 3: every election, which is are you better off than you
Speaker 3: were four years ago? And to Mere's credit, he started
Speaker 3: with that question, are people off today than they were
Speaker 3: four years ago? Under Trump? Now? Interestingly enough, Kamala refused
Speaker 3: to answer it at all. She didn't say yes, she
Speaker 3: didn't say people's lives are better, she said nothing at all. Instead,
Speaker 3: she had a little memorized set peace about how I
Speaker 3: was raised in a middle class family. I was raised
Speaker 3: with a mom who loved me and struggled. And she
Speaker 3: just talked about her bio and gave just just empty
Speaker 3: platitudes that continued for the entire night. And so look,
Speaker 3: we saw this evening. Why it is that Kamala's campaign
Speaker 3: team keeps her hidden in Joe Biden's basement. Why they
Speaker 3: just bring her out, have a read from a teleprompter,
Speaker 3: and then they tackle her and throw her back in
Speaker 3: the basement. Because all right, let's take the very simple question.
Speaker 3: She didn't say, yes, you're better off than you were
Speaker 3: four years ago. Why, well, you really can't, Like it's
Speaker 3: impossible to defend on every front. Inflation. All let's just
Speaker 3: take inflation in the economy. Her policies and Joe Biden's
Speaker 3: policies have been disastrous America. The working people of America
Speaker 3: have seen the price of just about everything go up,
Speaker 3: from food to electricity, to rent, to lumber, to healthcare,
Speaker 3: to gasoline, to mortgages, everything go up. And critically, this
Speaker 3: is where her record matters. Kamala Harris was the tie
Speaker 3: breaking vote multiple times on the floor of the Senate
Speaker 3: on trillions of dollars of the out of control spending
Speaker 3: from this administration that has caused this inflation. She was
Speaker 3: literally without her vote the trillions of dollars that we
Speaker 3: borrowed and the trillions of dollars that Joe Biden and
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris ran the printing presses on that drove this
Speaker 3: inflation that doesn't happen, and she can't defend that. She
Speaker 3: doesn't have a good answer. When it comes to energy
Speaker 3: and gas prices. People are hurting because of gas price
Speaker 3: as well. It is her policies, in Joe Biden's policies
Speaker 3: that has waged war systematically on oil and gas production
Speaker 3: and American energy, and she can't defend that either, and
Speaker 3: so instead she simply says, well, we're going to lower
Speaker 3: energy prices, We're going to lower gas prices, and with
Speaker 3: no acknowledgment that Wait a second, she is, in fact
Speaker 3: the sitting vice president, and who knows where the heck
Speaker 3: the actual president is besides pass out to sleep on
Speaker 3: a beach.
Speaker 2: When you see, I think the strategy and and now
Speaker 2: it actually I think makes more sense, right like just
Speaker 2: hide her buy ads, get the media to cover for
Speaker 2: you and protect you at all costs. And maybe that
Speaker 2: is a winning strategy, which comes to the obviously the
Speaker 2: next big question, should there be another debate?
Speaker 1: Do you believe there will be?
Speaker 2: In the other debate, they were obviously in the Harris
Speaker 2: camp implying that there was a big victory tonight, saying
Speaker 2: that was fun, Let's do it again, and threw out
Speaker 2: another date. Uh, signaling from her campaign they want to
Speaker 2: tee it up again and go toe to toe with
Speaker 2: Donald Trump again. Is that the right move for her?
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think Trump should absolutely accept that offer
Speaker 3: for another debate. They should jump on it and say
Speaker 3: let's go. I think the debate is a valuable opportunity
Speaker 3: to calmly litigate her actual record. And let me say
Speaker 3: this though, even if Trump does follow that advice and
Speaker 3: does accept the debate, I think there's very little chance
Speaker 3: it happens. I think Kamala's team will back out on it.
Speaker 3: I think they're mostly just puffing out their chest and
Speaker 3: boasting right now with the offer of another debate, I
Speaker 3: think there is no world in which they let her
Speaker 3: do a second debate. I think it's back to the basement.
Speaker 3: And if I were to predict, we're not going to
Speaker 3: see Kamala emerge from the basement until election day. It's
Speaker 3: like the groundhog until she sees her shadow on election day,
Speaker 3: she doesn't get to come out of the basement other
Speaker 3: than to show up at a rally here and there
Speaker 3: and read from the teleprompter the same speech. But they
Speaker 3: want to keep her absolutely controlled and repeating and listen,
Speaker 3: I will say, the Democrat Party has very good message masters.
Speaker 3: They have very good This is the party of Hollywood,
Speaker 3: this is the party of storytellers. Her memorized set pieces,
Speaker 3: some of them are pretty effective. They're disconnected from reality.
Speaker 3: They don't acknowledge any facts on earth. But if you
Speaker 3: just listen to them, they are calmly, reassuring, they sound nice.
Speaker 3: And it's why. Look, this is the same reaction I
Speaker 3: had with her convention speech. It's dangerous as hell, because
Speaker 3: if you're not paying close attention, what she says sounds
Speaker 3: nice unless she is forced to confront her actual own record.
Speaker 3: And in the entire debate, the ABC moderators never once
Speaker 3: pointed out that her record is exactly the opposite of
Speaker 3: what she said on the debate stage over and over again.
Speaker 2: So when I watched the debate, the question I always
Speaker 2: ask myself is okay, if I was going in a
Speaker 2: night voting for Donald Trump, was I convinced by Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris that I should switch my vote?
Speaker 1: The answer honestly is no.
Speaker 2: And if I'm a Kamala Harris voter and was going
Speaker 2: into the night watching Kamala Harris saying I'm going to
Speaker 2: vote for her. Am I going to switch my vote
Speaker 2: to Donald Trump tonight? Honestly? Probably not? Does that mean
Speaker 2: that this is a draw? And since where Hey, Donald
Speaker 2: Trump's team they walk out of this going okay, maybe
Speaker 2: we could have done a little better on this that
Speaker 2: or the other. Maybe we'll work on that for the
Speaker 2: next subbay, but we didn't do any harm and we
Speaker 2: got out. Are some good points. Kama's team probably says, hey,
Speaker 2: we had it. We survived the night we had you
Speaker 2: in hiding in the basement. Is this one of those
Speaker 2: debates that we both said was one of the most
Speaker 2: important ever? But could in theory be a draw? Because really,
Speaker 2: you're if the if the barometer is I'm trying to
Speaker 2: change hearts and minds. Did anyone's mind change tonight?
Speaker 3: Well, Kamala's team and all of our cheerleaders in the
Speaker 3: corporate media are going to relentlessly hype that she won,
Speaker 3: that she won, that she won. And by the way,
Speaker 3: they were going to say that whatever happened, she could
Speaker 3: literally fall to the ground and start screaming and wailing
Speaker 3: and kicking her feet in the air, and they would
Speaker 3: say she won, so that that was going to be
Speaker 3: the narrative regardless. I will say, what we learned is
Speaker 3: she doesn't have a good answer to her own record.
Speaker 3: The Trump campaign needs to continue to prosecute the case.
Speaker 3: So let's let's take, for example, there was a hole
Speaker 3: back and forth on abortion, and Trump said accurately that
Speaker 3: she supports late term abortions into the eighth and ninth
Speaker 3: months of pregnancy, and she just said, over and over again, no,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't that's false, that's false, and
Speaker 3: the moderators sat there like potted plants. Well, it so
Speaker 3: happens that Kamala actually has a record, and in particular,
Speaker 3: she has voted for legislation on the floor of the
Speaker 3: Senate to strike down every single restriction on abortion in
Speaker 3: the country and to legalize abortion in the eighth and
Speaker 3: ninth months up to the moment of birth. That is
Speaker 3: her actual voting record, what she has voted for. There
Speaker 3: was another exchange where Trump points out that the governor
Speaker 3: of Virginia, the former governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, had
Speaker 3: advocated for post birth abortion, and she flat out lied
Speaker 3: and said no, no, he didn't know.
Speaker 2: He didn't any play that because we have that clip.
Speaker 2: And this is why I love doing this show, is
Speaker 2: we get to play it. This is Northam on the
Speaker 2: radio on WTP saying what she said, and the media said,
Speaker 2: never happened.
Speaker 4: If a mother is in labor, I can tell you
Speaker 4: exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the
Speaker 4: infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated
Speaker 4: if that's what the mother and the family desired, and
Speaker 4: then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mothers.
Speaker 1: I mean, where's the fact check for ABC News on that? Senator?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and understand Ralph Northam, he was a Democrat governor
Speaker 3: of Virginia. He was also someone whose medical school yearbook
Speaker 3: featured a picture of a klansman. That's another part of
Speaker 3: Ralph Northm's background. But he was also an obg y n.
Speaker 3: So he was actually talking about as a doctor who
Speaker 3: presumably has done that. He was describing the approach, and
Speaker 3: that is delivering a baby. The baby is alive, is eathing,
Speaker 3: is outside the mother's womb, and he's talking about just
Speaker 3: letting the baby die. And again, this is where records matter.
Speaker 3: Kamala has a record on this. So when she says
Speaker 3: that's ridiculous, that's no, no, no, no, no, that's not true. Well,
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act,
Speaker 3: and that was a bill that we voted on the
Speaker 3: floor of the Senate that said if during the course
Speaker 3: of an attempted abortion, the child is delivered, the child
Speaker 3: is born, and this happens, and the child is alive
Speaker 3: and breathing and outside the womb, that the doctor cannot
Speaker 3: just let the baby die. And she voted no. Now,
Speaker 3: as you noted, ABC did in fact check her on that,
Speaker 3: her voting record is very clear, and this was a
Speaker 3: pattern over and over and over again on energy. So
Speaker 3: her big trick now on energy is she's run away
Speaker 3: from her long held position opposing fracking. Okay, fine, so
Speaker 3: she he's like, yeah, I just flip flopped on that.
Speaker 3: What ABC didn't point out is, well, wait a second,
Speaker 3: your repeated statements about banning fracking. That's not the only
Speaker 3: thing you've done on energy. First week in office, you
Speaker 3: and Joe Biden shut down the Keystone pipeline. Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: when he was campaigning for president, promised to shut down
Speaker 3: drilling on shore, on federal lands and offshore. You put
Speaker 3: in over ninety different regulations and executive orders attacking oil
Speaker 3: and gas production in the United States that has had
Speaker 3: a very direct effect driving up cost. Your administration banned
Speaker 3: new permits exporting liquid natural gas. Like her record on
Speaker 3: energy is terrible, and she has no answer to that.
Speaker 3: And by the way, Trump did a good job on
Speaker 3: this point of saying, listen, you banned the Keystone pipeline
Speaker 3: and gave a giant gift of Vladimir Putin by allowing
Speaker 3: him to complete the Nordstream two pipeline, which caused the
Speaker 3: war in Ukraine. And that's something you and I have
Speaker 3: talked about on this podcast a lot. It was my
Speaker 3: legislation in the Senate that sanctioned Nordstream two and shut
Speaker 3: it down. Trump signed my legislation and Putin literally stopped
Speaker 3: building the nord Stream two pipeline the day that Trump
Speaker 3: signed my sanctions legislation in the law. Nordstream two was
Speaker 3: a dead hunk of metal at the bottom of the
Speaker 3: ocean until Joe Biden and Kamala Harris came into office.
Speaker 3: And and they demonstrated weakness, and and and they waived
Speaker 3: the sanctions on nord Stream two. And it was a
Speaker 3: multi billion dollar gift to to Russia, and it caused
Speaker 3: the war in Ukraine. None of that does she have
Speaker 3: an answer for.
Speaker 2: We just got in the official number. ABC News fact
Speaker 2: check Donald Trump seven times, not one time the debate.
Speaker 2: Did they fact check Kamala Harris?
Speaker 1: Not once?
Speaker 2: So that's the official caw tally now is seven times
Speaker 2: on Trump. That's three on one, And I do think
Speaker 2: that's going to have a turn off, I would hope
Speaker 2: to some of those voters, maybe in the middle, the undecideds,
Speaker 2: which very much can be the deciding factor in this election.
Speaker 2: Will that play with undecideds? Do you think did they
Speaker 2: see the bias that you and I saw?
Speaker 3: They saw that some, but I think they also go
Speaker 3: in expecting the media to be biased. So I don't
Speaker 3: think anyone is surprised that ABC is a left wing
Speaker 3: mouthpiece for the Democrats. That's been the case sadly for
Speaker 3: a long time for ABCNBCCBSC and AN, MSNBC, all of
Speaker 3: them have been mouthpieces for the Democrats. So yes, they
Speaker 3: saw it, but again they're not surprised. Look, the critical
Speaker 3: thing that we saw tonight is is she doesn't have
Speaker 3: a good answer on the chaos at our southern border.
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris was the borders are. She is directly responsible
Speaker 3: for the worst level of illegal immigration in our nation's history.
Speaker 3: She is directly responsible for the people who have died.
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and fifty three migrants died last year crossing
Speaker 3: Allelian in this country. She is responsible for the people,
Speaker 3: the women who have been brutally raped. She's responsible for
Speaker 3: the children who have been brutalized. She's responsible for the
Speaker 3: little boys and little girls who've been horribly assaulted by
Speaker 3: human traffickers. She's responsible for the one hundred and ten
Speaker 3: thousand Americans who died last year of drug overdoses. She
Speaker 3: is responsible for the murderers that she and Joe Biden
Speaker 3: had in their custody. Murderers like the illegal alien murderer
Speaker 3: of Lake and Riley that she and Joe Biden had
Speaker 3: in custody, and they released murderers like the illegal alien
Speaker 3: murderer of Rachel Morin that illegal alien was in her custody.
Speaker 3: She released them. Murderers like the illegal alien murderers of
Speaker 3: Joscelyn Nungary. Both of them were in her custody and
Speaker 3: she and Joe Biden released them, and so that record.
Speaker 3: She was not forced tonight to answer for any of
Speaker 3: that record and that but it demonstrated that she does
Speaker 3: not have a good response. And and that's what I
Speaker 3: think the next two months the Trump campaign has to
Speaker 3: prosecute systematically based on the facts. Here is her record,
Speaker 3: here is what she has done, and it hasn't worked.
Speaker 3: It has failed, and the American people are worse off
Speaker 3: as a result of the failures of her extreme policies.
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Speaker 2: to bring up some more of this stuff, and I
Speaker 2: think you and I've talked about this, but let's just
Speaker 2: remind people since kamayers took off, as total prices are
Speaker 2: up over twenty percent, car insurance up fifty four percent,
Speaker 2: hotels are up. Say when you rent a hotel fifty
Speaker 2: one point two percent, Gases up fifty point fifty percent,
Speaker 2: fuel oil is up forty nine point one, transportation up
Speaker 2: thirty two point nine Electricity is up thirty one point
Speaker 2: seven percent.
Speaker 1: Baby food's up over thirty fIF.
Speaker 2: Percent, eating out of up twenty five percent, airfare up
Speaker 2: twenty three percent, rent up twenty two percent, and groceries
Speaker 2: are up about twenty two percent as well. That's what
Speaker 2: they've got to focus on, every single one of a
Speaker 2: surrogate's not all this other in the weed stuff. I
Speaker 2: really do believe they've got to keep it simple for
Speaker 2: the American voter, especially if you're trying to go after undecided.
Speaker 3: Sure, and that's what we talk talked about in Monday's pod,
Speaker 3: that that the focus needs to be on harms, harms, harms.
Speaker 3: How are people's lives worthought? Worse off because of the
Speaker 3: horrible policies that Kamala Harris is directly responsible for. And
Speaker 3: and that's true on inflation, she was literally the tie
Speaker 3: breaking vote behind the trillions of spending that that unleash
Speaker 3: this inflation. It's true on energy, she and Joe Biden,
Speaker 3: it has been their executive orders and their regulations that
Speaker 3: have driven up energy prices. And and it's true on
Speaker 3: the border, and and and let me play there that
Speaker 3: there was one of the best exchanges with something Trump
Speaker 3: said on the border where he made the point that
Speaker 3: that that that listen, she she could secure the border today,
Speaker 3: and and and and and listen listen to this what
Speaker 3: what what he said to her? Right now?
Speaker 5: I would say we would both leave this debate right now.
Speaker 5: I'd like to see her go down to Washington, D C.
Speaker 5: During this debate because we're wasting a lot of time.
Speaker 5: Go down to because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Go down to Washington, D C.
Speaker 5: And let her sign a bill to close up the border,
Speaker 5: because they have the right to do it.
Speaker 1: They don't need bills.
Speaker 5: They have the right to do the president of the
Speaker 5: United States, you'll get them out of bed.
Speaker 1: You'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 5: You'll say, come on, come on down to the office,
Speaker 5: let's sign a bill.
Speaker 1: It was a great moment in the debate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, that point is very powerful. And understand this
Speaker 3: invasion at our southern border. It is happening right now today.
Speaker 3: There are hundreds, if not thousands of illegal immigrants crossing
Speaker 3: the border right now today today Joe Biden and Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris are apprehending hundreds, if not thousands of illegal aliens
Speaker 3: and they're going to release them tomorrow. There are criminals
Speaker 3: they're going to release tomorrow. There are murderers they're going
Speaker 3: to release going forward. There are rapists, there are child molestors,
Speaker 3: and they keep on doing it. And the point Trump
Speaker 3: is making, and listen, his campaign needs to follow this
Speaker 3: up by explaining, by by really explaining. Look, when Joe
Speaker 3: Biden and Kamala Harris came into office, they inherited the
Speaker 3: lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years. Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: I worked hand in hand with President Trump to secure
Speaker 3: the border, and we had incredible success. When Trump was president,
Speaker 3: the border was secure. And it was unilateral executive actions
Speaker 3: that caused this crisis. Three decisions that Biden Harris did
Speaker 3: in the very first week. Number one, they immediately halted
Speaker 3: construction of the border wall. Number two, they reinstated the
Speaker 3: disastrous policy of catch and release, and number three, they
Speaker 3: pulled out of the incredibly successful Remain in Mexico agreement.
Speaker 3: All three of those they could reverse tomorrow, and so
Speaker 3: the point like, literally, go down to the White House
Speaker 3: right now and do it. That is absolutely right. It
Speaker 3: is also right that if and I pray when Trump
Speaker 3: is reelected that he will reverse all three of those
Speaker 3: decisions on January twentieth of next year, and we will
Speaker 3: see the border crisis end and it will end quickly.
Speaker 3: And so that point was very effective. Let me say also,
Speaker 3: Ben I thought the foreign policy portion of the debate
Speaker 3: was particularly strong for Trump, and it was very weak
Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris. At one point she looks over at
Speaker 3: Trump and says, well, you know, everyone knows that he
Speaker 3: was weak and ineffective on foreign policy. And I got
Speaker 3: to say to me that that was a laugh line.
Speaker 3: And listen, if you look across the globe, we had
Speaker 3: peace and prosperity when Trump was president. We had no
Speaker 3: foreign wars, and in fact, we saw peace breaking out
Speaker 3: in the Middle East. We saw the Abraham Accords being signed,
Speaker 3: we saw Arabs and Israelis coming together. And I think
Speaker 3: it is absolutely the case that if Trump were still
Speaker 3: in the White House today, the war in Ukraine would
Speaker 3: not have happened, in the war in Israel would not
Speaker 3: have happened. That it was Joe Biden Kamala Harris's weakness
Speaker 3: that caused those wars, and critically, and Trump did a
Speaker 3: good job of this too, laying out that that Listen,
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris has flowed over one hundred billion dollars to Iran.
Speaker 3: Iran provides ninety percent of the funding for Hamas, ninety
Speaker 3: percent of the funding for Hesbela. Kamala Harris, in a
Speaker 3: very real sense paid for the death squads that carried
Speaker 3: out the atrocities on October seventh, and and and Kamala
Speaker 3: has no answer to that, and and and tonight showed
Speaker 3: that powerfully.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I also think, and you go to the end of
Speaker 2: the debate that one of the best parts was actually
Speaker 2: Donald Trump in his closing argument. And it goes back
Speaker 2: to the campaign strategy I think he needs to have
Speaker 2: moving forward, and that is to make sure he makes
Speaker 2: this about what she has done in comparison to what
Speaker 2: she claims she wants to do while she's in charge.
Speaker 1: Like you're in charge, you're in charge, You're in charge?
Speaker 3: Is it? In Trump?
Speaker 5: So she just started by saying she's going to do this,
Speaker 5: She's going to do that, She's going.
Speaker 1: To do all these wonderful things.
Speaker 5: Why hasn't she done it? She's been there for three
Speaker 5: and a half years. They've had three and a half
Speaker 5: years to fix the border, They've had three and a
Speaker 5: half years to create jobs and all the things we
Speaker 5: talked about.
Speaker 1: Why hasn't she done it?
Speaker 5: She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful
Speaker 5: White House, go to the Capitol, get everyone together, and
Speaker 5: do the things you want to do. But you haven't
Speaker 5: done it, and you won't do it because you believe
Speaker 5: in things that the American people don't believe in.
Speaker 2: It's a great line, and I wish it would have
Speaker 2: been used even more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the closing, was Trump's best, best part
Speaker 3: of the entire debate, and that that was exactly the
Speaker 3: right message. It's a message that the Trump campaign should
Speaker 3: amplify every day between now an election day. Listen, you
Speaker 3: and I have talked about how kamalas trying to engage
Speaker 3: in this divorced from reality campaign where she pretends she's
Speaker 3: not in office, that she's not the incumbent, she disavows
Speaker 3: all responsibility for the mess that is happening, and in fact,
Speaker 3: she's behaving as if Donald Trump is the incumbent president
Speaker 3: and she's the change candidate. She is in office right now.
Speaker 3: Joe Biden is in office right now, and on every
Speaker 3: single level on inflation, on crime, on illegal immigration, on
Speaker 3: foreign policy, on safety and security. The world was much
Speaker 3: much better when Trump was president than it is today,
Speaker 3: and that needs to be emphasized every day between now
Speaker 3: an election day.
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Speaker 2: and really for me. When I was watching this tonight
Speaker 2: and it's say, Okay, where do we go from here?
Speaker 2: I'm in favor of another debate. I think you you
Speaker 2: cover that earlier, right, you agree Trump should do another
Speaker 2: one number one, Yes.
Speaker 3: But I don't think she will. I think you don't
Speaker 3: think she will.
Speaker 1: So your prediction is she's done.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Number two.
Speaker 2: If you're Donald Trump, what do you learn for tonight
Speaker 2: and what do you take into your big campaign rallies
Speaker 2: from this? And what is your messaging to your surrogates
Speaker 2: tomorrow on the surrogate.
Speaker 3: Call, I think the message is she cannot defend her record,
Speaker 3: and her record is a failure. The American people are
Speaker 3: worse off. But listen, I think it's important to remember also,
Speaker 3: this is not about Donald Trump, and it's not about
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. It is about the American people. It is
Speaker 3: about It is about you young couples who are going
Speaker 3: out and buying their first home and they're discovering that
Speaker 3: a seven and a half percent mortgage rate is much
Speaker 3: much worse than a two and a half percent mortgage
Speaker 3: rate that you get about half the house. That's happening
Speaker 3: right now today, people are hurting. It's about a single
Speaker 3: mom who's trying to make ends meet and she can't
Speaker 3: afford to buy groceries anymore because the prices have gone
Speaker 3: so high, and when she tries to fill up her
Speaker 3: tank to go to work, it just about breaks her.
Speaker 3: It's about the people who are suffering. Look today, on
Speaker 3: September tenth, there was a ceremony in the Capitol where
Speaker 3: the Congressional Gold Medal was awarded to the thirteen servicemen
Speaker 3: and women who were murdered in Afghanistan from the absolutely
Speaker 3: disastrous and incompetent withdrawal from Abbigate. And I'll tell you
Speaker 3: the families were there and it was a beautiful ceremony,
Speaker 3: and the families I spoke to many of the families.
Speaker 3: I thanked every one of them that I could to
Speaker 3: say thank you for your service and sacrifice. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: But I also to many of them. Had a follow
Speaker 3: up conversation where I said, there needs to be accountability.
Speaker 3: There has been zero accountability. That the focus for the
Speaker 3: campaign every day from now to election day needs to
Speaker 3: be the difference between Trump's record and Kamala's record and
Speaker 3: critically bringing it home to the voters now their lives
Speaker 3: were much better when Trump was president than they have
Speaker 3: been under Kamala, and that her policies are failures and
Speaker 3: they're hurting the American people. That's got to be the
Speaker 3: central message.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you mentioned a second ago, on this anniversary
Speaker 2: of nine to eleven, I think it's important that we
Speaker 2: also take a step back, remember how important it is
Speaker 2: that you have competent leaders that understand how important it
Speaker 2: is to protect and defend the homeland, to protect and
Speaker 2: defend freedom. And also just a moment to say thank
Speaker 2: you to all of those that serve this country, to
Speaker 2: all of those that wear the uniform, to all those
Speaker 2: that have given the ultimate sacrifices and their families. There
Speaker 2: were so many people that died on nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: but there was also the second part, and that was
Speaker 2: so many that died because they wanted to protect and
Speaker 2: defend us after nine to eleven, that gave the ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 2: And I said to everybody listening, say thank you to
Speaker 2: a veteran. Text them. Everybody knows a veteran, tell them
Speaker 2: thank you. I had the privilege of playing golf today
Speaker 2: with some of those that actually took out some of
Speaker 2: the worst terrorists in the world, some special operators.
Speaker 1: And they were amazing.
Speaker 2: Guys, and I say to them, thank you, because without
Speaker 2: you giving up years of your life and risking your
Speaker 2: life and losing your brothers in uniform. We wouldn't have
Speaker 2: the freedoms we have today, and that's what we need
Speaker 2: to remember.
Speaker 1: I think during this election season as well.
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Speaker 1: It's always fun.
Speaker 2: We get to do a joint podcast the Senator and
Speaker 2: I will see you back here in a couple of days,
Speaker 2: and I'll see you back here tomorrow on the Ben
Speaker 2: Ferguson Podcasts as well. And again, God bless America and
Speaker 2: thanks to all of our veterans that are listening to you.
Speaker 1: Guys are the heroes.