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Speaker 1: Welcome into the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve, whitch with you?

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Speaker 2: I am Jack Steve.

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Speaker 1: It's not because it's the man, the myth, the legend,

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Speaker 1: Scott Palmer my dad's birthday. No, it is because we

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Speaker 1: have well I'm still excited about that. It's because we

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Speaker 1: have a monster show on a Thursday for you.

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Speaker 2: We have Jason Kelce.

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Speaker 1: I think I've heard that name quite a bit around

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Speaker 1: the NFL and maybe much every single entertainment and pop

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Speaker 1: culture place you can find in the tabloids or on

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Speaker 1: the television. He'll be with us for an entire segment.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Tunsel, the star left tackle for the Texans, with

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Speaker 1: us for an entire segment. In Baldy, if this show

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Speaker 1: was taped on the Moon on a Thursday night at

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Speaker 1: three in the morning, I think Baldy would find a

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Speaker 1: way to be on the show with all the offensive

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Speaker 1: line talk. And also the coach, Leslie Fraser is going

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Speaker 1: to be with us as well. Why is scoring down? Well,

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Speaker 1: coach has an answer, Steve, this is a monster show.

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Speaker 1: We're new, but this.

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Speaker 2: Is the biggest show we've had since we've started this thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. First off, Happy Birthday to

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Speaker 3: your father. That is awesome.

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Speaker 4: Rice is a huge show, and it's the thing that

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Speaker 4: you know, the more we get into our show, and

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Speaker 4: we developed this show, the smart talk that we have,

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Speaker 4: the entertainment factor that we have, and Jason Kelsey and

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Speaker 4: Laramie Tong, so they're only going to help us with this, JP.

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Speaker 3: But Jams, we've got it. We've got a big weekend

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Speaker 3: coming up.

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Speaker 4: Right, we're out nearing the midpoint of the season, and

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Speaker 4: I want to get to these guys as quickly as possible. Beforehand,

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Speaker 4: let's hit on a couple of games that really have

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Speaker 4: our interest, and they may not be the splashes and headlines,

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Speaker 4: but I want to start this out by looking at

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Speaker 4: the Tennessee Titans Atlanta Falcons game.

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Speaker 3: And here's why JP.

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Speaker 4: All Right, Tennessee's gonna be starting rookie will Levis, and

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Speaker 4: I think whether he played, whether they win or not.

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Speaker 4: If he plays well, this may be the time that

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Speaker 4: they turn the page away from Ryan Tannehill, a preseason

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Speaker 3: And here's why I say this.

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Speaker 4: We just saw the Tennessee Titans trade safety Kevin byar Out.

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Speaker 3: We're hearing running back Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 4: We're hearing wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins name in trade rumors

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Speaker 4: out there. This might be time again for them to flip.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why it's important is they're playing the

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Speaker 4: Atlanta Falcons. The Atlanta Falcons may have waited too late

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Speaker 4: to find out what their quarterback, Desmond Ritter is right.

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Speaker 4: They had opportunities to start him last year when Marcus

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Speaker 4: Marioti was talling, and they waited, and maybe Tennessee doesn't

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Speaker 4: want to repeat that. And here is a binding tie

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Speaker 4: to that. The quarterback coach for the Falcons last year

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Speaker 4: was Charles London. Guess who he's the quarterback coach for

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Speaker 4: now the Tennessee Titans, So maybe he has some insight

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Speaker 3: So we'll see. That's why that game's got my attention.

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Speaker 3: What do you got, James?

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Speaker 1: What I got, Steve is a sneaky, sneaky game in

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Speaker 1: western Pennsylvania, one that I will be attending, and that

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Speaker 1: is the Jaguars visiting the Pittsburgh steel Unders. Now, for

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Speaker 1: some reason, this game's getting right. I love this game.

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Speaker 1: This game's getting no love. Remember we had Jeff ga

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Speaker 1: On on Monday had ten teams that he Truss in

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Speaker 1: the NFL moving forward, Neither one of these teams were

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Speaker 1: on that list. Good Morning Football was breaking this game

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Speaker 1: breaking it down. They were giving it no love. It

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Speaker 1: had no juice. I think this game has a lot

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Speaker 1: where they stand right now at five and two. How

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Speaker 1: now they're sitting atop that AFC South steven. If they

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Speaker 1: preached to his team this entire week, play in a

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Speaker 1: come out of that game with a win, and then

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Speaker 1: And if they win in Pittsburgh and then at home

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Speaker 1: Start come around for the Jacksonville Jaguars in the national

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Speaker 1: perspective of where they stand. These are two teams right now,

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Speaker 1: I think Steve, the perception is they're not contenders in

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Speaker 1: And I think both these teams could be in the mix,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a perception changer for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, I love this game because

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Speaker 3: And the way the Jaguars are playing.

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence showed the toughness he played last week coming

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Speaker 4: off of what looked like some type of knee injury.

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Speaker 3: Remember we had that brace on, and he played.

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Speaker 4: Well the way he did I think, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: think this game is fantastic. James, you were talking about

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Speaker 4: a ton of it, and we are to juice, going

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Speaker 4: to delay. We are going to get to our special

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Speaker 4: guest and coming up next, he's starting center for the

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Speaker 4: Eagles and he's a media mogul and pretty famous big

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Speaker 4: brother Jason Kelsey back on the NFL Report after the break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whites.

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Speaker 1: Would you that man in the middle with the best

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Speaker 1: beard in football? Jason Kelsey, the center for the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And I will say this, Jason, we've all known each

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Speaker 1: other for a while.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: You are the host of the number one podcast in

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Speaker 1: terms of sports in the world. This is show is

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Speaker 1: also a podcast. How do we get to number two?

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Speaker 5: Your advice go, Well, trying to think of who else

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Speaker 5: you guys can date, maybe to get your ratings up,

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe really really get crazy out there. I

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Speaker 5: don't know, you got to find I'm trying to think

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Speaker 5: of dua loopa.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't even know who we're where

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Speaker 2: Said it perfect? Lin't help? Yeah, yeah, yeah that.

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Speaker 4: Hey, we're we're both happily married, man, I think I'll well,

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Speaker 4: three of us are happily married, so we're we're good.

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Speaker 1: Good So me and look for I mean, you're out

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Speaker 7: Thirty years in bro I'm not I'm not messing with

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Speaker 7: that one. Hey, Jase, you know, but real quick, you

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Speaker 7: were great. You came out here to the broadcast boot camp.

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Speaker 7: You're absolutely awesome, uh in taking your career off. So

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Speaker 7: we love seeing you you succeed like this. But I

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Speaker 7: got a football question for you.

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Speaker 4: When I saw you a couple of weeks ago, after

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Speaker 4: talking about, Hey, we're we got to get close on

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Speaker 4: our red zone issues. Once we get through that, that's

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Speaker 4: the damn that we have to bring. You are four

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Speaker 4: six scoring touchdowns against Miami. Do you think you guys

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Speaker 4: have turned that corner?

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Speaker 5: Well, it was certainly better, and I think that that's

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Speaker 5: we're going to continue harping on it. That's a number

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Speaker 5: that we want to improve on, uh, each and every week.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, four six we will certainly take. You know,

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Speaker 5: Miami's deep, very stifling, Vic Fangio give you all these

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Speaker 5: I thought we had a really good game plan going

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Speaker 1: James, and I don't want to say I'm stalking you

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Speaker 1: in some of these locker rooms, but I have to

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Speaker 1: bring this up repeatedly. I see, whether it's a visiting

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Speaker 1: and it's you, Jalen and Brian Johnson, the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 6: After the games?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean not necessarily that one in particular, but

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Speaker 3: To that point.

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Speaker 4: Talking about detail, I mean, of course, the big phenomenon

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Speaker 5: fumble the snap in a quarterback sneak. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 5: I think you know it's it's not uncommon in fumble

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Speaker 5: were just saying, Steve, is that you know, when you're moving,

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Speaker 1: Right on, Jason, after you say that I don't know

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Speaker 3: How awesome was that?

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Speaker 8: First and foremost the free agents that Nick sign. Man,

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Speaker 8: did a good job with. I think the previous one

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Speaker 8: he also did a good job with too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think Nick is niggas also a guy, is behind

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Speaker 8: the scenes and does a very good job of what

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Speaker 8: it does.

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Speaker 2: Larre me.

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Speaker 1: So much of this is surrounded by the guy you

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Speaker 1: guys took first in this draft, second overall pick in CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud. What I keep reading about.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we've seen his plan, but I'm curious about the

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Speaker 1: relationships that are getting built behind the scenes. I keep

449
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Speaker 1: hearing about Taco Tuesdays, we're watching you know, zombie Land

450
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Speaker 1: over there.

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Speaker 2: Have you been over to CJ's house.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is a regular thing he's trying

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Speaker 1: to do over there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a regular thing that he does. Man, he

455
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Speaker 8: does a good job at, you know, bringing the whole

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Speaker 8: team together. The first thing I said when CJ walked

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Speaker 8: into the building, I was like, the leadership that he

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Speaker 8: has as a young player is unbelievable. I think that's

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Speaker 8: one of the first things I said when I met him.

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Speaker 8: I was like, Bro, your leader skills is off the charts,

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Speaker 8: you know, and I think that's something that we needed

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Speaker 8: in a franchise quarterback is somebody that's a consistent leader

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Speaker 8: and the damn good player on the field.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, you talk about leadership.

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Speaker 4: One thing CJ has said about you is I can't

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Speaker 4: believe I'm saying this. You're You're like the og in

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Speaker 4: the locker room. He said, it's just your actual presence.

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Speaker 3: You know, we know you're out for a couple of games.

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Speaker 4: When you said, your actual presence is the one thing

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Speaker 4: that's really kept things together and helped you guys win

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Speaker 4: three out of the last four.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, man, I just I think my biggest role is

473
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Speaker 8: to try to, you know, lead guys with my play

474
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Speaker 8: and like I'm not a hoo rah guy, you know,

475
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Speaker 8: a loud guy. I kind of just put guys to

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Speaker 8: the side into chop it over him like that. I

477
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Speaker 8: feel like that's my role in this.

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Speaker 2: Team, Larmie. I'm curious Steve mentions you as the OG.

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Speaker 1: I won't say that you're much bigger than me, but

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Speaker 1: what I will say is, you've been around for a

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Speaker 1: minute in this league, and you've been around for a

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Speaker 1: minute in Houston.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk.

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Speaker 1: About the past and what that building was like, but

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Speaker 1: how different and where is it now.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy how it is now.

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Speaker 8: Just we brought a lot of good players in a

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Speaker 8: lot of good coaches in to change this whole program around.

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Speaker 8: And it all started with Demiko. You know, Demico came

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Speaker 8: in here with unbelievable energy. I think I said that

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Speaker 8: every time when somebody asks about them, how consistent he

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Speaker 8: is as a head coach. I think something that this

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Speaker 8: program needed for a long time.

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Speaker 4: You know, you talk about the way things have gone

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Speaker 4: and just him getting his hands around this organization.

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Speaker 3: But you're winning. You're winning ball games, Laramie. I mean again,

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Speaker 3: you were nick for a while.

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Speaker 4: You come back, Titus Howard comes back. The offensive line

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Speaker 4: has really taken a different shape. Is that one of

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Speaker 4: the biggest things that's being credited for the way this

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Speaker 4: offense is played during this winning I guess you guys

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Speaker 4: won three of the last four.

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Speaker 8: I think it's not just us. I think it's just

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Speaker 8: the whole offense and it starts with CJ. And it

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Speaker 8: triggered down to the whole line, to the receivers, to

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Speaker 8: the tight ends, to the running backs.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody's just.

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Speaker 8: Buying into what the OC Bobby is telling us to do,

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Speaker 8: and everybody's buying into each other. You know, we always

510
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Speaker 8: want to be playing for each other. I think that's

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Speaker 8: the that's the biggest thing with this year's team, Like

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Speaker 8: we don't we want we don't want to see our brothers.

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Speaker 8: We don't want us to feel like we letting our

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Speaker 8: brothers down. So you know, we try to play harders

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Speaker 8: every snap and that's what we've been doing these last weeks.

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Speaker 1: Larimie, I feel like anybody outside of Houston, a casual

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Speaker 1: football fan, says Bobby, who like, I feel like a

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't know who Bobby Slowik is. I

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Speaker 1: had a chance to talk with him during trading camp.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of didn't know where I stood with him,

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Speaker 1: and I was kind of wild in our conversation, could

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Speaker 1: you can you kind of describe your offensive coordinator now

523
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Speaker 1: that you're kind of a quarter away into the season

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Speaker 1: and what he brings to your unit.

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Speaker 8: He's another he's another guy that's behind the scenes, but

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Speaker 8: he's a mastermind. He'd be dollar enough. He really does.

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Speaker 8: He's in my opinion, he really does like he's up in.

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Speaker 8: In my opinion, I think he's one of the top

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Speaker 8: o seeds in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: First year doing this, Hey, larim me you you've played

532
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Speaker 4: on playoff teams and I'm not going to sit here

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Speaker 4: and ask you to say, is this a playoff team?

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Speaker 4: But do you see some of the characteristics as young

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Speaker 4: of a team as you guys are all some of

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Speaker 4: those playoff teams you've been on.

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Speaker 8: I don't I don't like to speak too soon, man.

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Speaker 8: You know that's I'm a superstitious guy and I don't

539
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Speaker 8: like to speak ahead. But you know, as long as

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Speaker 8: we play good ball and stay consistent, you know, buy in,

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Speaker 8: I think we do just fine.

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Speaker 1: Laramie had a chance to talk to Brian Baldinger before

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Speaker 1: we were doing this interview, and Baldi said, I hate

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Speaker 1: watching Laramie's film. I can't stand it because it is

545
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Speaker 1: so consistent. The first step that I watch them is

546
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Speaker 1: exactly the same as the last snap that I watch

547
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Speaker 1: them in each game. What's your take on that consistency

548
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Speaker 1: that Baldy's talking about and that you obviously strive for.

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Speaker 8: And that's actually one of my biggest things that are

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Speaker 8: harpone is stay consistent no matter the circumstances. If we're

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Speaker 8: down up, I just like to stay consisting the whole game.

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Speaker 8: And when I'm taking notes during the week, I always

553
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Speaker 8: put at the top of my papers consistent. You know,

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Speaker 8: I have to stay consistent with everything I do. Run,

555
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Speaker 8: game pass, game screen, it doesn't matter. Like, I like

556
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Speaker 8: to stay consistent and just keep a love ahead throughout

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Speaker 8: the whole game.

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Speaker 6: Larr.

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Speaker 4: But we also have ego center Jason Kelcey on this show,

560
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Speaker 4: and you see them run that brotherly shove play whatever

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Speaker 4: it is.

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Speaker 3: They do it well.

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Speaker 4: Not everybody does it well as an offensive lineman, Like,

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Speaker 4: what is the importance if you guys ever get into

565
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Speaker 4: that turtle shell to execute that perfectly?

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Speaker 3: You're talking about the tests push. Yes, I see teams.

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Speaker 8: I've seen teams around the league trying to do the

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Speaker 8: test push and nobody executed like the Eagles are doing it. Man,

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Speaker 8: I don't know what's the secret with Jalen Hurts and

570
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Speaker 8: Jason Kelsey. I don't know what they're doing, but they

571
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Speaker 8: got a rolling for sure.

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Speaker 2: Is it something Lara mee?

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Speaker 1: You guys look at as an offensive line and you

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Speaker 1: kind of go, what are they doing?

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Speaker 2: Like, because you have a bigger quarterback, CJ's a pretty

576
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Speaker 2: big dude, you know it's something you could do.

577
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Speaker 8: In fact, I think we actually try to dissact that

578
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Speaker 8: play and try to figure out how they're doing, Like

579
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Speaker 8: it's the officer line getting a four point stands, Like

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Speaker 8: we talk about this actually every day and try to

581
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Speaker 8: dissact the play, figure out how we can do it.

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Speaker 8: But I think the biggest thing is try to do

583
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Speaker 8: our own thing, try to execute it the best way

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Speaker 8: we can.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Laramie, right right before we go, I gotta ask you,

586
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Speaker 4: you have twice negotiated your own deal to be the

587
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Speaker 4: highest paid time in the NFL. Why did you, Yeah,

588
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Speaker 4: why did you decide to say I got this, I

589
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Speaker 4: can do this myself.

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Speaker 3: It's not a complicated thing. I just like I'd just

591
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Speaker 3: like to be the pioneer of my own ship. That

592
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Speaker 3: makes sense.

593
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Speaker 8: Try to be the CEO of my of my business,

594
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Speaker 8: and you know I have good guys around me. I

595
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Speaker 8: have La Lucindy to help me with the contracts, and

596
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Speaker 8: I had a whole bunch of lawyers to look over

597
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Speaker 8: the contracts and it made the process easy. But it goes,

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Speaker 8: it goes back to Nick Cassario and Demico making everything

599
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Speaker 8: easy for him too.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: That is Laramie tunsl the left tackle for the Houston Texans.

602
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Speaker 1: Apparently Baldy's least favorite person to watch on the film

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Speaker 1: because of his dominant consistency play in and play out.

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Speaker 2: Laramie, thank you so much for joining the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Jeremie appreciated.

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Speaker 1: And Bald's going to get a chance to react to

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Speaker 1: what Laramie Tunssel had to say, what Jason Kelsey had

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Speaker 1: to say, and he's going to comment on this hard

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Speaker 1: hitting rookie corner and Devin Witherspoon, he brings up the

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Speaker 1: name Ronnie Lot what more on the NFL report coming

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Speaker 1: up with Baldy. Welcome back to my favorite segment, Baldy's

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Speaker 1: favorite films body. This almost seems like a theme. It

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Speaker 1: needs a theme, doesn't it needs some music off the top,

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Speaker 1: you know, something going out there to really get us

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Speaker 1: going on Thursdays when you join us, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so what I appreciate.

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Speaker 2: That segment so much. A lot to talk about listening.

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Speaker 1: There is a ton to talk about because what you

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Speaker 1: do also is you love watching these interviews. They're always

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Speaker 1: on before you on Thursdays. And the tush push was

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Speaker 1: a big discussion. Obviously Jason Kelsey's at the middle of it.

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Speaker 1: But Laramie Tunsel saying they dissect it, but they can't

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Speaker 1: figure it out yet. Are there different ways Philly does this? Baldy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Look.

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Speaker 9: I've talked to Stout about it, and I've talked to

626
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Speaker 9: you know, I'm friends with a bunch of the guys

627
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Speaker 9: up there, and you know, like even when Carson Wentz

628
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Speaker 9: was the quarterback there, they were thirty four thirty six

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Speaker 9: and quarterback sneaks over a period of time, you know,

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Speaker 9: and the one common denominator is Jason Kelcey. The center

631
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Speaker 9: all starts with him, his ability just to get lower

632
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Speaker 9: than everybody else and get the push started. How he

633
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Speaker 9: snaps the ball, where the ball is. They give you

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Speaker 9: different alignments, James. I saw Lane Johnson unbalanced over next

635
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Speaker 9: to Jordan Malatta on the other side of the line

636
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Speaker 9: of scrimmage. The one thing that they really concentrate on,

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Speaker 9: and Carson told me this years ago when he had

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Speaker 9: a quarterback sneak against the Washington Commanders and he almost

639
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Speaker 9: scored a touchdown on it was if they don't get

640
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Speaker 9: your legs, if they don't get Carson's or Jalen hurts

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Speaker 9: his legs, a guy that dead lifts six hundred and

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Speaker 9: fifty pounds like Jalen hurts, he's going to be able

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Speaker 9: to have that push. And so it starts with Kelsey,

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Speaker 9: it leads to Jalen. They don't get to you just

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Speaker 9: watch it like nobody's grabbing his legs, and so the

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Speaker 9: momentum is able to continue and really the push is

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Speaker 9: able to continue.

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Speaker 4: Well, I love you breaking down that because you know

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Speaker 4: some of the changes in alignment. Light going unbalanced with

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Speaker 4: Lane Johnson, that changes defensive alignment and their keys what

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Speaker 4: they have to read at the snap. So that does

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Speaker 4: open up certain things. But I want to flip it

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Speaker 4: to the defensive side of the ball, to a player

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Speaker 4: you are just loving after watching.

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Speaker 3: Film for the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: Justin matdamweek, what is he doing for one of the

657
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Speaker 4: best defenses in the NFL.

658
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Speaker 9: Well, they might be the best defense. See there's a

659
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 9: couple of teams right now, Cleveland, Kansas City, they're all

660
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 9: vying for it. You put it different stats around it.

661
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 9: But they've given up six touchdowns in seven games right now.

662
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 9: That's good on any measure. But you know, they lead

663
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 9: to league in sacks. And look, they've gotten a big

664
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Speaker 9: help I think from Genevian's been good and always been good.

665
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Speaker 9: But the one guy that keeps showing up every week

666
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 9: is matam wee k. He's incredibly powerful and explosive. He

667
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 9: was coming out of college, but now he's in his

668
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 9: third year and he's kind of figuring it out. And

669
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Speaker 9: when you watch what Mike McDonald is doing and how

670
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 9: their blitzes complement their pass rush, the different fronts that

671
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 9: they give you, I just feel like Mettabwueke is a

672
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 9: guy that is right on the verge of exploding into

673
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 9: one of the more dominant interior defensive line Do they

674
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,959
Speaker 9: move them around, They'll line them up over the tackle

675
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 9: inside like in a variety of places, but He's winning

676
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 9: wherever he goes, and it's clear when he gets on

677
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 9: a player's edge right now, like he can push the

678
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 9: pocket like the great ones on the interior Ken.

679
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Speaker 1: I think at one point, Baldy, I think they were

680
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: giving up a point per drive essentially, is what it

681
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: came down to.

682
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: Which has been phenomenal on this runs defense.

683
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: And they've had injuries on that defense too, specifically in

684
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Speaker 1: the secondary, and they've been able to battle through all

685
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: of them. These guys are coming back now, That's the

686
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 1: thing we're getting a chance to see as they continue

687
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: to put this defense together. How about sticking to that

688
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Devin Witherspoon a member of another

689
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: pretty good defense in this league. This is a young player, Baldy.

690
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: That is reminding you of a guy from the olden times.

691
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: For me, I guess I don't want to date age

692
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: for him.

693
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Speaker 9: Look, look, I hesitate to say. We're talking about Devin Witherspoon,

694
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 9: the rookie in Seattle. He's number twenty one. He plays outside,

695
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 9: he plays inside, but honestly, you can't take your eyes

696
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 9: off him. He's just a magnetic player. And I have

697
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 9: not seen a corner hit like this like hit. When

698
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 9: he hits you like he hurts you, like he puts

699
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 9: a thump on you. Now like now this is the

700
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,239
Speaker 9: pick six, of course, but you know, I mean he

701
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 9: cracked a couple receivers. It's still pretty good from the

702
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 9: Arizona Cardinals last week where he felt like, I hope

703
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 9: that player had his mouthpiece in otherwise, teeth are gonna

704
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 9: come like chick lips. They're going to be spitting out

705
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 9: these teeth. The way he's hitting them, he's just rattling bones.

706
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 9: And like, I don't know, he did the same thing

707
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 9: in Illinois, So I made the comparison. I haven't seen

708
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 9: a corner like I know Ronnie Lott was, you know,

709
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 9: the gold standard for how you played physical football in

710
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 9: his business. And you know Ronnie eventually went to safety.

711
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 9: But I haven't seen There's no cop for me about

712
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 9: a way a corner hits the way Devin Witherspoon hits.

713
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 9: And I'm going to Seattle this weekend to the game

714
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 9: up there. I call him, you know, spoon Nato, like

715
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 9: he's he's a tornado, you know.

716
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: Of just fury of power.

717
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Speaker 9: I can't wait to talk to him and meet him

718
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 9: and just see like is He just this calm guy

719
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 9: that's real laid back, and then he transforms into this

720
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 9: player on the fields, which I don't know because I

721
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 9: haven't met him, but I'm looking forward to saying hello

722
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 9: to him.

723
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Speaker 3: And I love it.

724
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 4: And he's doing this some of the rules that were

725
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: taking away from corners. Remember, corners can't come out and

726
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: force on an offensive lineman anymore like they used to,

727
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 4: like some of the big hitters back in the day.

728
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: Let's go to another to an inside linebacker who is

729
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: thumping his way into Baldy's favorite film, Watches down in Atlanta,

730
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 4: Nate Landman, who's also got a great story behind him.

731
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: Baldy, He's got a great story.

732
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Speaker 9: I'm sure, like you know, I mean, you know, born

733
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 9: in Zimbabwe's dad was a rugby player, grew up playing rugby,

734
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 9: all that stuff. Undrafted player out of Colorado, Steve Right

735
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 9: makes the teams a free agent last year, Troy Anderson

736
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 9: get hurt.

737
00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: This year he.

738
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 9: Stepped in and honestly, he's playing great football. He was

739
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 9: great against the Bucks. He forced that fumble last week

740
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 9: in the third quarter. But you know, you look at

741
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 9: some of the impact hits he has ye and you

742
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 9: look at his relationships deep and how Atlanta's playing defense.

743
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 9: And see, if you know, the Falcons as good as

744
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 9: anybody on this side of the of the ledger here.

745
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 9: I can't remember the last time the Falcons were top

746
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 9: ten defense. That's what they are now. They kept the

747
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 9: Bucks out of the end zone, in the red zone.

748
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 9: They're playing good at every level. And so like I'm

749
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 9: studying the defense what they did against Tampa last week,

750
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 9: and Nate Lambon just keeps showing up. He just keeps popping,

751
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 9: and that's you know, that's that's just me sitting back.

752
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 9: I'm not looking for a play. Like he just pops

753
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 9: off the screen and he looks like he's getting guys

754
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 9: lined up and he's working with Ellis as his partner.

755
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 9: And really, this is the best I've seen Atlanta. Like

756
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 9: the additions of Anyamada kalaias Campbell to go with Grady Jarrett,

757
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 9: to go with the good corners, like they're looking pretty

758
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 9: strong right now as they sit the top of the AFC.

759
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: South Baldy, you've been to Zimbabwe, right, I would assume

760
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 2: I had.

761
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 9: A chance to go to Zimbabwe. I went to Madagascar

762
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 9: instead when I was in South Africa. So I actually

763
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 9: have not been there yet, James, it's on the list.

764
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: Wow, I was gonna play here.

765
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 9: I hear that monkeys can't swim, but in Zimbabwe they

766
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 9: show you how monkeys get across the river and it's

767
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 9: just something. I got to see the way they swing

768
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 9: themselves and I just got to see it. Yeah.

769
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got to be an in person type of thing.

770
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: And if you were in person watching Christian Darisol work

771
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: against Bosa this past week, Baldi, that was a work

772
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: of art. I'm not sure if he was like a

773
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: monkey swinging across the river, but he was definitely doing

774
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: his job on an NFL football field.

775
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 9: You know, Christian Darisol is now, he's really coming on.

776
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 9: He's playing great football. He's healthy. His punch and his

777
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 9: hands are marrying his feet and so he plays really

778
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 9: low like he plays low in his dance. He's got

779
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 9: great knee bands and he's shocking people like you know,

780
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 9: he shocked Nick Poe's last week and knocked Bose off

781
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 9: balance and knocked him down to the ground, finished him off.

782
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 9: It's always great test when you're going up against a

783
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 9: guy that's, you know, one of the premier defensive ends

784
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 9: in his whole business. You kind of want to measure

785
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 9: yourself against him, but I don't think it really makes

786
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 9: the difference who he's going against right now. I feel

787
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 9: like Christian Darisol can line up there on the proverbial

788
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 9: island and he can pitch a shutout or really limit

789
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 9: defectiveness of the great edge rushers in his business. Right now,

790
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,479
Speaker 9: he's just playing at that kind of a level.

791
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: Wow.

792
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 4: Well, and I want you to tie I hate hitting

793
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 4: you with double barrel questions, but I want to tie

794
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 4: these together because you talked about Darisol. We saw Cameron

795
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: buying them the safety come up and have two picks

796
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: a rock party to shield that game for the Vikings.

797
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: So if you could talk about buying them, But do

798
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: you also feel.

799
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 4: That maybe Minnesota is poised to write the track because

800
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: they lost a lot of one possession games just because

801
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: they kept fumbling the ball.

802
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 9: Well, you know, Cam buying him openings the game, knocks

803
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 9: the ball right out of McCaffrey's hands, you know, stopped

804
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 9: that possession, you know, and then he finished you know,

805
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 9: the forty nine ers had a chance to go down

806
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 9: the field to win the game twenty two to seventeen

807
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 9: two times in a row, and buying him comes up

808
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 9: to the interceptions and he leads the team in tackles.

809
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 9: But you know, we were talking off the air before

810
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 9: we got started today, Steve, like, if you look at

811
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 9: what Brian Flores is doing. At first, early in the season,

812
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 9: I thought this is just a blitz happy team. You

813
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 9: figure out the blitzcher. You know, they're only blitzing to

814
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 9: cover up the weaknesses. And now I look at them

815
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 9: and I go, Okay, Jordan Hicks, you know Mattellis, You know,

816
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 9: you look at Danielle Hunter. Daniel Hunter, he leads the

817
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 9: league in sacks. You look at different pieces Hunters, Harrison,

818
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 9: Smith and cam bind him on the back end, and

819
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 9: you go, they're really playing good defensively right now. They're

820
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 9: really keeping the score down, they're taking the ball away.

821
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 9: And then you know, John, you look at what Kirk

822
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 9: is doing offensively and you lose justin Jefferson, but Addison

823
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 9: steps up, kg Osborne steps up. Like that team right

824
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 9: now they were a better team. They're the forty nine

825
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 9: ers of Monday Night. You couldn't have said that a

826
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 9: month ago about the Vikings. But you know, it's not

827
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 9: about records. It's about stacking wins, and they've stacked two

828
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 9: and they got a chance to go to Green Bay

829
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 9: this week and get number three and another division win.

830
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 9: And you I've been on a one and five team

831
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 9: that turned things around. We fell short of the playoffs,

832
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 9: but we won eight of our last ten. It's all

833
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 9: about confidence and stacking wins. It's not about records. You

834
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 9: stack enough wins, you'll play in January. In this business, Baldy,

835
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 9: I want to throw this at you at the end.

836
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 9: We wanted to talk to Jason Kelsey about it, but

837
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 9: we had ninety different things we wanted to ask him

838
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 9: and only the limit amount of time. Howie Roseman and

839
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 9: going and getting Kevin Byern and what you've seen from

840
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 9: this Philadelphia Eagles team ability to just get team get players,

841
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 9: specifically veterans at any point in the calendar year, whether

842
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 9: it's Tinamik and Sue or Lynval Joseph for Brad Burry

843
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 9: a couple of years right in camp. What is it

844
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 9: about what Howie Roseman does in terms of just kind

845
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 9: of swiping these players.

846
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: Point in the year.

847
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 9: Well, this goes back. You go back to twenty seventeen

848
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 9: when they wont a Super Bowl. James I had a

849
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 9: personnel director under Howie on that staff. Tell me in

850
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 9: August before the season started count ball, you just count,

851
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 9: we're gonna make ten moves before we get to the postseason.

852
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 9: And they made nine before they got to Super Bowl,

853
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 9: and then I think they made one. Like right before

854
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 9: the Super Bowl they did ten. And so how he's

855
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 9: picking up the phone literally he's doing this, and he's

856
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 9: just who can I shake loose? Like what team is

857
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 9: struggling right now? Like Kevi O Byers, a Philly guy,

858
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 9: a two time All Pro kid. I knew him, he

859
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 9: was at Middle Tennessee State. Like, I can't imagine a

860
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 9: safety in this business right now coming in and helping

861
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 9: the Eagles out more than what Kevin Byrd will do.

862
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 9: You put Bayard and Slay and Bradbury with that pass rush,

863
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 9: I mean, the takeaways are gonna come. They're going to

864
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 9: be coming Philly's way. Congratulations of Howie and the mentality

865
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 9: that they have that they never stopped trying to improve.

866
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 4: The Yeah, look how he's going to continue to do

867
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: it With Jason Kelcey and all the other pieces I have.

868
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: The Eagles are going to be their.

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Speaker 4: Baldy much respect, love the insight that you're bringing now

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Speaker 4: up next, Former head coach and defensive coordinator Leslie Fraser

871
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Speaker 4: on why scoring is down and how defensive fronts are

872
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Speaker 4: combating guys like Laramie Tunzel back on the NFL Report. Right,

873
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Speaker 4: the NFL Report has been loaded with offensive linemen today,

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Speaker 4: so now we bring it former head coach, former NFL

875
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Speaker 4: defensive coordinator, and former starting defensive back Leslie Fraser and

876
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Speaker 4: coach Right off the bat, you Laramie talked for one

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Speaker 4: of the most athletic tackles in the game, Jason Kelcey,

878
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Speaker 4: arguably the most athletic.

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Speaker 3: Center in the game.

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Speaker 4: From what you have seen over your years, how have

881
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Speaker 4: teams and defensive linemen tried to combat the rise in

882
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Speaker 4: at athleticism we're seeing along offensive lines because there are

883
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Speaker 4: no more fat guys in the NFL.

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Speaker 10: No, you don't see the populate offensive lineman that you

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Speaker 10: saw when I was playing. It's completely changed. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: you're right about trying to find the athletic defensive lineman

887
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Speaker 10: to match up with the athletic offensive lineman. I know

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Speaker 10: from a defensive stead we were always trying to find

889
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Speaker 10: the best matchup for us on defense, and after we

890
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Speaker 10: took a look at the quarterback position and try to

891
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Speaker 10: determine where he was and what the skill level was.

892
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Speaker 10: The next thing was how are our matchups on the

893
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Speaker 10: offensive line versus our defensive line? And across the league

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Speaker 10: Steed and James, teams have begun to allocate more money

895
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Speaker 10: to their defensive line. I think over this past year,

896
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Speaker 10: like thirteen percent of team's salary cap went to the

897
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Speaker 10: defensive line. So everyone is beginning to realize if there's

898
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Speaker 10: going to be a mismatch, it's going to be our

899
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 10: defensive line versus that offensive line. So people are putting

900
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Speaker 10: money to pass rush in order to slow down on

901
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Speaker 10: these offenses.

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Speaker 2: You have to be able to.

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Speaker 10: Win with four rushers rather than having to bring five

904
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Speaker 10: or six, which makes you vulnerable in the secondary. So

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Speaker 10: people are allocating money to their defensive front to be

906
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Speaker 10: able to match up with some of these offensive line

907
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Speaker 10: of offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: One more on that coach, I'm curious about it as

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Speaker 1: opposed to trying to bring a fifth rusher or a

910
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Speaker 1: sixth rusher, being able to have athletes that are flexible

911
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: to play inside and outside on your defensive line to

912
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Speaker 1: find those matchups that you mentioned, is that almost more valuable.

913
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Speaker 1: So you don't have to bring somebody extra that you

914
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Speaker 1: have guys like Chris Jones that can go inside and outside,

915
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Speaker 1: they can find those matchups for you.

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Speaker 10: Oh absolutely, you know. I think earlier before we came

917
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Speaker 10: on air, I mentioned that, you know, one of the

918
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Speaker 10: things we were always trying to find out is who's

919
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 10: the weak link on the offensive line so that we

920
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Speaker 10: could put our best rusher up again and you best

921
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Speaker 10: rusher up against him. And you see the Cleveland Brown

922
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Speaker 10: doing that all the time with Miles Garrett, then moving

923
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Speaker 10: him all up and down the offensive line for matchup purposes.

924
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Speaker 10: And we did the same thing with a Von Miller.

925
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Speaker 10: We did the same thing with the Greg Russo and Buffalo.

926
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Speaker 10: So yes, to your point, James, if you have a

927
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Speaker 10: guy that's that's Burke that versatle it gives you an

928
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Speaker 10: advantage when it comes to getting after the quarterback.

929
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Speaker 3: Coach. Scoring in the NFL is lower than it's been

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Speaker 3: in twelve years.

931
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Speaker 4: The average score per game is, you know, twenty one

932
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Speaker 4: point seven points per team.

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Speaker 3: What are you seeing as to why scoring is down.

934
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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's a few different things, Steve, and

935
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Speaker 10: you know in our league, you know, it's all about points.

936
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Speaker 10: I mean that's what ratings can remember sending the owners

937
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Speaker 10: meeting and here the owners talk about the importance of

938
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Speaker 10: scoring points. I remember Bill Pollion doing a whole presentation

939
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Speaker 10: on why points were important when it comes to viewership.

940
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Speaker 10: So the league is really emphasized is scoring, and rightfully,

941
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Speaker 10: so that's what the fans want to see. They want

942
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 10: to see points. And now points are down, and there

943
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Speaker 10: are a few factors. In my mind as I take

944
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 10: a look at it. I think part of it is

945
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Speaker 10: when you look at the explosive play rate that's down

946
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Speaker 10: through week one through seven. In twenty twenty two, there

947
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Speaker 10: were you know, each team had about explosive plays in

948
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Speaker 10: the first seven weeks of one through seven. Well, now

949
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Speaker 10: you fast forward to twenty twenty three, that number is

950
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Speaker 10: down to about fifty five plays per team. So the

951
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Speaker 10: explosive plays, the chunk plays, offenses aren't getting them at

952
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Speaker 10: the same rate that they were. And then you combine

953
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Speaker 10: that with the fact that in our league we're starting

954
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Speaker 10: probably around there are seven quarterbacks in the league that

955
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 10: are in their first or second year starters. That contributes

956
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 10: as well because they're getting their first opportunity to going

957
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 10: against some of the best defenses week in and week out.

958
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Speaker 10: And one of the biggest factors that really sticks out

959
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 10: to me is a number of first year coordinators with

960
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 10: their team. Currently there are sixteen first time coordinators.

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Speaker 2: Wow with their lead.

962
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Speaker 10: So so you think about that, I mean, that's that's

963
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Speaker 10: a lot of news coming in introducing their system to

964
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 10: a new group and trying to get it up and

965
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 10: going in a hurry, and that presents its own challenges

966
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Speaker 10: in itself. So, uh, those are some of the factors

967
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Speaker 10: that I think are contributing to points being down. And

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Speaker 10: to go back to what we talked about with the

969
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Speaker 10: pass rush. You know, the defensive line on paper this

970
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Speaker 10: year and even with the numbers they bear out, it's

971
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Speaker 10: a little bit ahead of the offensive line. When you

972
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 10: look at the sack total across the league, that that

973
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Speaker 10: number is up through one through Selve it as well remarkable.

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Speaker 1: That's the last thing defensive players and defensive coaches want

975
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Speaker 1: to hear. Coaches that scorings down and the league doesn't

976
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Speaker 1: like it. Let's have another couple of penalties or.

977
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Speaker 2: So things are going our way.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of defense, let's close this out coach with

979
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Speaker 1: talking about the Kansas City Chiefs defense. I've done each

980
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Speaker 1: of their last two games, and when I talked to

981
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Speaker 1: coaching on the sideline, it is this is the best

982
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Speaker 1: group we've had in the Patrick Mahomes era in Kansas City.

983
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Speaker 1: Why are you seeing Spags's group so successful this season?

984
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Speaker 10: So I wanted to know that from Spags. You know,

985
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Speaker 10: he and I have a long history going back to

986
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Speaker 10: our days with the Eagles. Sla ax him, I said,

987
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Speaker 10: what do you what do you think it is? Man,

988
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Speaker 10: because or nearly it's been the offense kind of carrying

989
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Speaker 10: the defense, as you know, James in Kansas City, That's

990
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Speaker 10: not the case in twenty twenty three. Is Fags pointed

991
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Speaker 10: to make some interesting points. He pointed to the conuity

992
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Speaker 10: that they have on their defense. They've got a number

993
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Speaker 10: of guys that are turning from a season ago that

994
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 10: have been in their system for multiple years. He felt

995
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 10: like that continuity made a difference in the success that

996
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Speaker 10: they're having here in twenty twenty three. And then he

997
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Speaker 10: pointed to the leadership that they have in each room,

998
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Speaker 10: in their defensive line room, in the linebacker's room, and

999
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Speaker 10: with the secondary as well. He said, they have tremendous leadership.

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00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 10: You know, guys that are really echoing what the coaches

1001
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 10: are saying, and that's making a big difference. Then finally,

1002
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Speaker 10: he said, the last thing is our secondary and our

1003
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Speaker 10: linebackers are really working well together and making us a

1004
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 10: better team because of that, which you know, it helps

1005
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 10: our defensive line because of the way our secondary linebackers

1006
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Speaker 10: have searched great chemistry, So a combination of their secondary

1007
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 10: which enables their defensive line to go to work, and

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00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 10: then vice versa. When the defensive line is working, it

1009
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Speaker 10: makes the linebacks of the secondary of jobs as easy

1010
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Speaker 10: as well. So they've got a lot of good things going.

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Speaker 10: Spans is really excited and I'm excited for him as well.

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Speaker 3: Coach.

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Speaker 4: That's really great you talk about linebackers the secondary, because

1014
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: the communication between those two levels in the passing game

1015
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Speaker 4: today is huge.

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Speaker 3: And JP you pointed this out before the show.

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Speaker 4: The recent addition of defensive end Charles amene who to

1018
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Speaker 4: that group and the way him and Chris Jones are

1019
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Speaker 4: playing off of each other is great.

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Speaker 3: James, you've got ten seconds and we got to get

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Speaker 3: out of here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, you saw one specific play. Joe Cullen, the

1023
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Speaker 1: defensive line coach, told me in the locker room. He said,

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Speaker 1: watch these two playoff of one another. With the length

1025
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Speaker 1: that Charles Mena who has off the edge, the way

1026
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Speaker 1: he can blow people up, and they can play off

1027
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Speaker 1: of Chris Jones and one another. This defense might get

1028
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Speaker 1: even better. And so many guys are drafted into it,

1029
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Speaker 1: Steve Right, that's the big part of it. Most of

1030
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Speaker 1: these guys are draft picks on this defense. They've grown

1031
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Speaker 1: in the system.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Coach Frasier, we want to thank you, Jason kel Awsome,

1034
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Speaker 4: Jeremy Tunsel, Brian Baldinger for.

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Speaker 3: The biggest NFL report ever.

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Speaker 4: Coach will see you soon, JP, everybody else, Happy Weekday

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Speaker 1: Eight,