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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric

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Speaker 2: Towards Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Tire

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Speaker 2: Req from the Fox Sports Radio studios. It is eleven

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Speaker 2: oh one Eastern Time. Obviously, first and foremost, we know

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Speaker 2: a lot of the country dealing with extreme weather, whether

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Speaker 2: you're on the road, whether you're at home. One, we

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Speaker 2: appreciate you joining us, but two, please be safe wherever

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Speaker 2: you're coming from or going. And let's start with Jason

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Speaker 2: Martin down in Nashville. J Mart is with us. Obviously

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Speaker 2: you're okay right now, j mart Hope you and your

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Speaker 2: family are safe and stay safe over the next twenty

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Speaker 2: four to thirty six hours as the storm hits.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everything is good for now. At any moment that

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Speaker 3: could change when it comes to the power. Obviously, our

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Speaker 3: It was snow for a good bit of the afternoon,

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Speaker 3: but the freezing rain portion of this event is what's

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Speaker 3: basically taking center stage for the next like twelve to

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Speaker 3: fifteen hours or whatever. And those in the country that

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Speaker 3: have dealt with ice storms before, not only are they unpredictable,

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Speaker 3: but if the power goes out, it can go out

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Speaker 3: for days at a time. And we're gonna be below

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Speaker 3: zero degrees on Monday night going into Tuesday, I think

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Speaker 3: with the wind chails, it's gonna be minus fourteen, which

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Speaker 3: for Nashville is supremely cold. I don't even know if

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Speaker 3: we're gonna get above freezing until the weekend next weekend,

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Speaker 3: so a lot of this is gonna be around for

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Speaker 3: So hopefully I'm gonna get to see the AFC in

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Speaker 3: the NFC Championship Games tomorrow. But of course, more importantly,

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Speaker 3: anybody that's unable to get out of the heat, it's

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Speaker 3: a good reminder of how blessed you are if you're

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Speaker 3: able to go inside, even if it's cold outside. There

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Speaker 3: are people that are not as fortunate as you and me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I uh not to get get too much into

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Speaker 2: story time. By the way, we do have a final

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Speaker 2: in Dallas, the Los Angeles Lakers, as de Seger just

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Speaker 2: told us, rally to beat the Mavericks in in Dallas,

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Speaker 2: excuse me, one sixteen to one ten the.

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Speaker 4: Final score there.

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Speaker 2: Luka doncis with thirty three points in this one. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: J Mart, you know one obviously a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a serious and scary situation across the country with the weather.

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Speaker 2: You know, again, not to get too far into story time,

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Speaker 2: but I think many people know I grew up in

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Speaker 2: We were out of power for about a week, and

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Speaker 2: that was what I decided it was time for me

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Speaker 2: was a big part of the reason why I now

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Speaker 2: live in southern California and for all its h for

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Speaker 2: all its issues. It was about sixty degrees today, But

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Speaker 2: we don't need to get into that. Let's get into

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Speaker 2: exactly what you just said, J Mart. You're hoping that

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Speaker 2: the weather allows you to bundle up with with a

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Speaker 2: Championship games that both both matchups are set. Two games

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Speaker 2: were final when we got off air last week. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the Broncos took care of the bills in overtime. Broncos

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Speaker 2: will be without Bo Nicks on Sunday as they host

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Speaker 2: the As they host the new England Patriots in the

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Speaker 2: early game. Patriots, of course, beat the Houston Texans last

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Speaker 2: Sunday and in the NFC for a third time this season.

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Speaker 2: Rams and Seahawks should mention Dave Softy Mallor, a legend

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Speaker 2: in the Seattle radio community, will join us in about

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes from now to preview that game. But both

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Speaker 2: games set for Sunday. You can take it wherever you want, Jamart.

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Speaker 2: But but your thoughts heading into what should be an

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Speaker 2: interesting Sunday in the NFL, and certainly you know, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look up more Broncos fans. So I'm

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Speaker 3: bummed about the circle ccumstances. As many times as Broncos

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Speaker 3: that Jared Stidham stiddy stating ready for this moment. I'm

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Speaker 3: still giving pretty good respect to Denver's defense. And just look,

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Speaker 3: we have seen backup qbs in the playoffs do this

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Speaker 3: that differences. Nobody's ever started this late. Like Stidham is

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Speaker 3: side who's balling out in Drake May. So the defense

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Speaker 3: certainly intrigued. I want to see what Jared Stidham can do,

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Speaker 3: but my hopes are a little bit dashed obviously for

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Speaker 3: Seahawks have just been special all year and have really

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Speaker 3: playing real close to the sun. They're not gonna be

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Speaker 3: But that's kind of the matchup you want the NFC

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Speaker 3: wasn't going to be their year based on what you

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Speaker 3: think this is what you want. It's two teams from

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Speaker 3: the best division in football this year going head to

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Speaker 4: By the way, we will get to later on in

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Speaker 2: With the NBA Final on ABC, we got inside the

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Speaker 3: So we heard it. Nice to see a change, I

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Speaker 2: We heard Charles Barkley's complaints to Dan LeBatard earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: We will address that, I believe the fifth time this

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Speaker 2: You know to me, listen, obviously, look, we're we're all

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to tear down what the New England

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Speaker 2: and listen, the quarterback struggles the last two weeks are

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Speaker 2: I'm just not sold that because Jared Stidham is playing,

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Speaker 2: because bo Knicks is not playing, that like the Broncos

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if anyone's actually.

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Speaker 2: Saying that, but I do think you know the vibe

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Speaker 4: I think the vibes were just kind of okay.

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Speaker 2: You know, whoever wins that that that game on Sunday

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Speaker 2: I just I don't know that defense is so good.

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Speaker 2: it's not like bow Knicks is Josh Allen or Lamar

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Speaker 4: I just I don't know, I'm just more.

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Speaker 2: Intrigued by I'm certainly intrigued by the late game, but

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Speaker 2: But I'm just not ready to kind of give up

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Speaker 3: Well look, man, I mean I'm trying. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: a there's nothing wrong with what you're saying, and I

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Speaker 3: But that defense against a quarterback that's not been here before,

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Speaker 3: New England is the variable factor, sure, because I just

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Speaker 3: All that's it. Sean Payton is not going to go

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Speaker 3: it's going to be hostile. So I think for any

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Speaker 3: an intrigue factor. The only thing, you know, the Patriots

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Speaker 2: I've been hyping you up a lot here in the

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Speaker 4: Are you ready to deliver or what?

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm sorry to let you down, but let me

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because the amount of time I spend on the

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Speaker 7: We've had We've had Nacho's, We've had a peanut butter

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Speaker 4: Already, that's actually terrifying.

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Speaker 7: I am walking around just stress eating beyond belief. I'm

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Speaker 2: Right, well, let's get into it. I mean, obviously, third matchup,

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Speaker 7: Well, it's not just two games this year, it's the

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Speaker 7: I mean between Mike McDonald and Sean McVay. Ever since

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Speaker 3: All right, softy, stay away from all sharp utensils if

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm very very keyed up right now. Your food okay,

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Speaker 7: please don't take this personally. Okay, but this Sam Donald

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Speaker 7: And I don't mean you guys, I mean just people.

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Speaker 7: I mean, they absolutely upgraded from Geno Smith. Did you

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Speaker 7: You tell me if John Schnider did not make the

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Speaker 7: what Sam Darnald has given the Seahawks versus what Geno

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Speaker 2: But coming in there was the is he even gonna play?

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Speaker 3: But also nobody was buying that though.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just another air and I gotta cut you off

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Speaker 4: I'm just asking. I'm asking, all.

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Speaker 7: Right, please please just do me a favor, all right,

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Speaker 7: the two of you. I'm not I'm not talking about you, guys, Okay,

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Speaker 7: I'm not talking about you, all right. When I when

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Speaker 7: This idea that Sam Darnold was not going to play

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Speaker 7: But there was no way that Sam Darnald was going

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Speaker 7: I'm fifty two, Aaron. I have no idea how old

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Speaker 7: He's got a freaking strain. It is Obleach. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it up tomorrow and get through it. It's the only

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Speaker 7: option for the Seahawks because Drew Locke is not Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 7: Now here's the issue. This is the issue with the obleach,

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Speaker 7: not whether or not he plays. The issue is against

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Speaker 7: the Niners. He only had to throw the balls seventeen times. Okay,

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Speaker 7: If he throws it thirty five times and we get

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Speaker 7: to the fourth quarter, how many bullets is he going

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Speaker 7: to have left in that gun with that'll bleak, how

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Speaker 7: sore will it be, how much juice will he have

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Speaker 7: on the ball in the fourth quarter of that game

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Speaker 7: tomorrow if he's going to throw it thirty plus times,

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Speaker 7: which I think there's a chance he's going to have

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Speaker 7: to tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's all fair softy. What

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Speaker 3: scares you the most about the Rams if you're looking

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Speaker 3: at it from the perspective of what you've seen in

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Speaker 3: the regular season and what you anticipate seeing. Your defense

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Speaker 3: has been awfully good, especially down the stretch. I'd say

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Speaker 3: that the maestro performance was last week against whatever was

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Speaker 3: left to the San Francisco forty nine ers. But the

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Speaker 3: Rams could be a completely different animal. So what do

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Speaker 3: you what do you expect from them? And what where

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Speaker 3: do you think the difficulty is going to arise?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the difficulty is going to be getting

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Speaker 7: Devonte Adams back. He did not play in that game

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Speaker 7: in Seattle, that overtime game. That's the game where Puka

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Speaker 7: went bananas two hundred and twenty five yards. Obviously he

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Speaker 7: was he was on. He was just unguardable, you know,

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Speaker 7: in that game. I mean, this is a guy that

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Speaker 7: played in Seattle here at Washington for a couple of years.

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Speaker 7: So we all know what book and the Coup is

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Speaker 7: all about. But now you've got Devonte Adams back Colby

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Speaker 7: Parkinson has really come on. He's a former Seahawks tight

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Speaker 7: end who's now a legitimate threat I think at tight

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Speaker 7: end for the Rams. And I also wonder, guys, how

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Speaker 7: many chances McVeigh takes if they get into fourth and short,

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Speaker 7: fourth and one, fourth and two inside their own fifty

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Speaker 7: how many chances will they take against the Seahawks defense. Look, guys,

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Speaker 7: I think I don't want to bore you with with

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Speaker 7: any cliches, but I really think tomorrow is going to

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Speaker 7: be a game that's simply put gonna come down to

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Speaker 7: who settles for field goals and who scores touchdowns. And

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Speaker 7: I'm looking at the Rams defense. Guys, going back to

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Speaker 7: Week fifteen, that's the Lion game, and that's a six

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Speaker 7: game stretch. The Rams defense is giving up touchdowns in

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Speaker 7: the red zone at a eight percent clip. That is terrible,

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Speaker 7: absolutely terrible by the Rams defense. The Seahawks defense and

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Speaker 7: their last six games is at thirty six percent. You're

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Speaker 7: talking about an offense in Seattle that's been pretty good

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Speaker 7: about forty seven forty eight percent in the red zone

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Speaker 7: last month and a half against an awful defense and

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Speaker 7: then a good offense on the Rams side sixty percent

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Speaker 7: touchdown percentage in the red zone versus maybe right now,

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Speaker 7: an elite red zone defense in Seattle. So, to me,

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Speaker 7: this game is simple. Who decides to take a risk?

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Speaker 7: Who decides to go forward on fourth and one from

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Speaker 7: the five yard line and keep a drive alive as

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Speaker 7: opposed to settling for a field goal Last week against

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Speaker 7: the Niners, you guys are excuse me. In week eighteen

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Speaker 7: against the Niners, you guys saw first and goal from

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Speaker 7: the one for the Seahawks. Dam Darnold's got Zach Sharper

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Speaker 7: and a wide open on a drag route across the

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Speaker 7: goal line, and he missed him and they ended up

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Speaker 7: getting nothing on a drive like that. So this game tomorrow,

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Speaker 7: who wins the battle inside the ten, who wins the

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Speaker 7: battle inside the twenty, to me, is going to go

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Speaker 7: a long way in deciding who wins this game. And

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Speaker 7: I think you might see Clint Kubiak and Mike McDonald's

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Speaker 7: take some chances in the red zone because the Rams

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Speaker 7: red zone defense has been atrocious.

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Speaker 4: Dave Softie Maller joining us.

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Speaker 2: You can hear him in Seattle ninety three to three,

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Speaker 2: KJR three to seven Pacific time, Sophie, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if Jmart has any more in the game tomorrow. I

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Speaker 2: want to pivot for half a second the demand Williams story,

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Speaker 2: So I want to keep you listen. One, not only

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Speaker 2: were you fired up, you were hours ahead of the

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Speaker 2: national media.

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Speaker 4: You were all over the story.

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Speaker 2: You knew all of the inner workings, and you now

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Speaker 2: know what's going on there as he is obviously now

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Speaker 2: still at Washington.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're two weeks removed.

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Speaker 2: There's certainly bigger things going on in Seattle and the

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Speaker 2: world of sports in general. But was just curious for

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Speaker 2: your take on that now that we're a few weeks

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Speaker 2: remove from it.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, first of all, they're lucky that there's

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Speaker 7: a lot going on besides that in Seattle. Otherwise this

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Speaker 7: is what people would be talking about, right, I mean,

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Speaker 7: we're we're not We're not talking about DeMont Williams anymore

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Speaker 7: because the Seahawks are in the NFC Championship game tomorrow

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Speaker 7: against the Rams. But guys, you got to remember when

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Speaker 7: this story broke, it was the bye week for the Seahawks.

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Speaker 7: They weren't playing that weekend, so we were able to

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Speaker 7: break away from the NFL break away from the Seahawks

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Speaker 7: and discuss the Demon Williams thing looks. There's a couple

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Speaker 7: of different angles on it. First of all, he's surrounded

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Speaker 7: by morons, there's no question about that, including members of

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Speaker 7: his family, complete idiots, adults, ignoramuses that have no idea

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Speaker 7: how this thing works anymore. In college football, you sign

534
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Speaker 7: a contract and then think you can just walk away

535
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Speaker 7: and get out of it without a legal fight from

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Speaker 7: the University of Washington, and they were greatly, greatly mistaken

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Speaker 7: in that regard. I'm proud of you, dub I'm proud

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Speaker 7: of Pat schun and the university for putting their foot

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Speaker 7: down and saying, no, man, you signed a deal and

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Speaker 7: if you want to walk away, there's going to be

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Speaker 7: consequences to that, and DeMont Williams decided it wasn't worth it.

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Speaker 7: Look what I believe. I believe that Demon Williams is

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Speaker 7: in Seattle at Washington because he has to be, not

544
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Speaker 7: because he wants to be. And we have a scenario

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Speaker 7: now on folding in Seattle in Jed Fish's third year

546
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Speaker 7: where Aaron, honestly, you've got a large portion of the

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Speaker 7: Washington football fan base that doesn't want Demon Williams to

548
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Speaker 7: be the quarterback anymore at U doub so he's got

549
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Speaker 7: some fences to repair, there's no doubt about that, including

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Speaker 7: with the women's soccer team. You may have heard he

551
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 7: made his announcement on Instagram that he was going to

552
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Speaker 7: put his name in the portal right during a memorial

553
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Speaker 7: service for a player named Mia Hammond who passed away

554
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Speaker 7: a couple of months ago of cancer. It was so

555
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Speaker 7: tone deaf by him, it was pathetic. He hasn't spoken

556
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Speaker 7: since publicly. He hasn't talked publicly. Eventually he's going to

557
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Speaker 7: have to. But the good news is for him, he's

558
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Speaker 7: got eight months until the season starts to get back

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Speaker 7: in people's good graces, and I hope that he does.

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Speaker 2: Dave Softy Mallory, you can hear him three to seven

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Speaker 2: Pacific time in Seattle, ninety three to three KJR. We'll

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Speaker 2: let you go on this, Softie. I mean, I think

563
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Speaker 2: we're going to know where you're going to go, but

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Speaker 2: we would love a final pick as mashing out of here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just think no, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I think I know where you're going,

568
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Speaker 2: but I assume You've put out a pick on your show,

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Speaker 2: so I don't think we're breaking any news here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I picked the Hawks to win in a

571
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Speaker 7: tight one. I think in Jason Meyer's redemption game for

572
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Speaker 7: that missfield goal that he had down there in LA.

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Speaker 7: Call it a twenty one nineteen twenty one to twenty

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Speaker 7: type win. But guys, this is a coin flip. It

575
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Speaker 7: really is. It's a toss up. I mean, these are

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Speaker 7: the two best teams I believe in the National Football League.

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Speaker 7: Lumenfield is going to be rocking. It's the first conference

578
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Speaker 7: championship game for the Seahawks in eleven years, it's the

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Speaker 7: it's the fourth conference championship game at home since two

580
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Speaker 7: thousand and five, and they're three to zero so far.

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Speaker 7: The Twelves are going to be out in force. Has

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Speaker 7: already people gathered around the stadium tonight waiting to get

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Speaker 7: into the into the gates tomorrow. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 7: the Hawks win a close one. But man, this is

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Speaker 7: an absolute coin flip, and anything can happen. Anything can

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Speaker 7: happen in this game tomorrow. Two teams that respect each other.

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Speaker 2: Big back Dave Softy mallor again three to seven Pacific Time,

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Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, ninety three three KJR.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much food he got left in

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Speaker 2: the fridge, but yeah, do you Okay, sounds like you

592
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Speaker 2: went through a lot already, But.

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Speaker 7: All right, so I'm gonna go dive into these Swedish

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Speaker 7: meat balls and potato chips and pretzel bites to keep

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Speaker 7: me going the rest of the night.

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Speaker 2: Stay safe, and I would say enjoy the game tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: but you will, so all right, Softie, we appreciate the time.

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Speaker 4: Man, we'll talk soon. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That was Dave Softy Mallard ninety three to three KJR,

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Speaker 2: three to seven Pacific. Awesome stuff. We'll come back and

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Speaker 2: react to it before we do, though, first time on

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Speaker 2: our show this evening, Steve de Seger. Let's get to

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Speaker 2: the news desk. What is trending?

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Speaker 7: Sir?

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Speaker 3: Hello, gentlemen.

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Speaker 8: The Steelers do officially I have a new head coach.

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Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy, a Pittsburgh native. Former Steelers assistant Arthur Smith,

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Speaker 8: They'll play against each other again on Monday as scheduled.

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Speaker 8: In college basketball, Number two Connecticut in overtime beat Villanova,

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Saga.

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Speaker 2: Air Tours Jason Martin. We are live here in the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios, Jamart, I want to throw a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a curveball at you. But first of all,

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Speaker 2: any thoughts on Softy. Mallor certainly was not afraid to

655
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Speaker 2: share an opinion or two sounds like a guy who

656
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Speaker 2: does fifteen hours a week of local radio.

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Speaker 4: He was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Loved having him certainly passionate about Sam Donald and the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Anything stand out in specific about what's soft You had

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Speaker 2: to say, Well, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, the Donald answer was interesting. I wasn't really suggesting

662
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Speaker 3: little I don't think he took it this way, but

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Speaker 3: I was not really suggesting that Donald was somebody to

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Speaker 3: be afraid of necessarily. I was more or less trying

665
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Speaker 3: to get to the thought process of Seahawks fans if

666
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Speaker 3: they completely buy in now, because look, it hasn't been

667
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Speaker 3: the easiest road for him. All the points he made

668
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Speaker 3: was right, so he argued it correctly. I just wanted

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Speaker 3: to see exactly what he would say to that, and

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Speaker 3: of course he had a you know, he had a

671
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Speaker 3: pretty bang an answer to it, So I mean good

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Speaker 3: on him for that. I think that we are certainly

673
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Speaker 3: at a spot where if he doesn't win tomorrow, then

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Speaker 3: that narrative ain't going anywhere. Yeah, even like, well, let

675
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Speaker 3: me change that. If he goes out there and throws

676
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Speaker 3: for four hundred yards and four touchdowns they get beaten

677
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Speaker 3: a shootout, then you know that won't be the case.

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Speaker 3: But if he goes out there and lays an egg

679
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Speaker 3: and that rams defense at times can be good, they're

680
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Speaker 3: a bit spotty. But if they can knock him off

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Speaker 3: his platform, knock him off his throwing platform, make him

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Speaker 3: uncomfortable back there, and they'll probably send some guys at

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Speaker 3: him and he's just a little bit loose with the

684
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Speaker 3: football early, then a lot of the feelings about him

685
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: in the past are going to jump right back into

686
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Speaker 3: the four. And I think that's kind of where I

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Speaker 3: am on It is just he needs to have a

688
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Speaker 3: good start in this game so that that narrative just

689
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: never gets off the ground because he has the opportunity

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Speaker 3: tomorrow to kind of turn it all around.

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Speaker 2: No, And I think it's fair, and I actually, you know,

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Speaker 2: I had never really considered it, and maybe it's naivete

693
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Speaker 2: or ignorance or bad radio hosting on my part, but

694
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Speaker 2: had never thought of the fact that Donald has only

695
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Speaker 2: played two playoff games, and on the one hand, there

696
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Speaker 2: really isn't a sample size big enough to say that

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Speaker 2: he can't perform. But on the other hand, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're going up against a guy Matthew Stafford

699
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Speaker 2: that's not only won a Super Bowl, but has certainly

700
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Speaker 2: played in these high leverage games for you know, I

701
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Speaker 2: don't want to say most of his career because a

702
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Speaker 2: lot of it was in Detroit, not his fault whatever,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, no, I thought it was a totally fair conversation.

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Speaker 2: And clearly Sam Darnold had some you know, some people

705
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Speaker 2: in Seattle that are coming to his defense, but enjoyed

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Speaker 2: Softy coming on. And we'll have plenty more on that

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Speaker 2: game here throughout the show. Really quickly, I want to

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Speaker 2: throw a little bit of a curveball at you. It's

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Speaker 2: a it's a nice forty five topic here. When I

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Speaker 2: say forty five, I mean end of the hour shorter segment.

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Speaker 2: De Seger mentioned this in his last update, and I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't normally talk about this, but I think because of

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Speaker 2: your history, it's a it's an interesting conversation now with you.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State named Arthur Smith their offensive coordinator today. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: his time in Tennessee. You know you you are obviously

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Speaker 2: familiar with him because of his time in Tennessee. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you have any super strong opinions one

718
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Speaker 2: way or another. Obviously has spent the last few seasons

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Speaker 2: with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Just curious.

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Speaker 2: He was obviously the OC in Tennessee before he was

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons head coach, now the Ohio State offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: So what he is best at is is utilizing a

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Speaker 3: running back. Like his success in Tennessee was so largely

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Speaker 3: built around having Derrick Henry that maybe it gave him

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Speaker 3: a little more credit than he deserved. But at the

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Speaker 3: same time, he did a lot of good stuff with

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Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill as well. What he was able to do

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Speaker 3: with Tannehill and AJ Brown together was solid. His offenses

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Speaker 3: were good. Is why he got his first opportunity as

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Speaker 3: a head coach, and you know it didn't work out.

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Speaker 3: He maybe wasn't in the perfect spot at the time.

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Speaker 3: But this is an interesting move for Ohio State. I

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Speaker 3: think it kind of says they're gonna put a little

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Speaker 3: bit less. This is just how I read it. I

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Speaker 3: think that this means they're gonna put a little bit

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Speaker 3: less on saying to have to be the guy all

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Speaker 3: the time. I think they're gonna run the ball more

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Speaker 3: next year to try and maybe take some of the

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Speaker 3: pressure off the court. And also like, if you can

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Speaker 3: get the running game going, then nobody's gonna stop Jeremiah Smith.

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Speaker 3: So I see it more from that perspective. I think

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Speaker 3: the run game will be the benefactor next year because

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Speaker 3: of Arthur Smith, which is interesting because it didn't really

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Speaker 3: work when he had b John Robinson. I'm not really

746
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Speaker 3: sure what happened there, but I think that he's going

747
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: to commit to running the ball more than we've seen

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Speaker 3: Ohio State do maybe in the last year or two.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's an interesting play, but it's not

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Speaker 3: really surprising with you when you look at kind of

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Speaker 3: what we're seeing in the Big Ten. Indiana was able

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Speaker 3: to run it and pass it, but a large part

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Speaker 3: of their success was, you know, they could bruise it,

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Speaker 3: fall forward and get five yards and they were like

755
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: the King of having second and six, second and five,

756
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: which is very manageable because the way they'll fit that

757
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: offense was built and I could easily see Arthur Smith

758
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: kind of going with that blueprint Yeah.

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Speaker 2: My only real takeaway is with Matt Patricia on the

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Speaker 2: defense run excuse me running the defense. I kind of

761
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Speaker 2: feel like, is this Ryan Days new? You know, we're

762
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Speaker 2: NFL light and you know we talk about how could be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's just a thought.

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Speaker 2: I you know, Ryan Day, at some point we'll have

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Speaker 2: a press release or a press conference. And I don't

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Speaker 2: have any strong opinions about it one way or the other.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's interesting. You know, the DC basically

768
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: comes to college with an NFL background, virtually no experience

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Speaker 2: in college, and the same with Arthur Smith. And I

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00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: do wonder, you know, we talk about this world of

771
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: you know, there's really no separation between college and the

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Speaker 2: pros anymore. And I do wonder if hey, Ohio State

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Speaker 2: to a degree, recruits itself. Recruiting frankly doesn't matter as

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Speaker 2: much anymore, and I just wonder if that's kind of

775
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: the play of, Hey, come here, we run professional systems,

776
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna be a pro.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was an interesting conversation and interesting,

779
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Speaker 2: you know, interesting with your background having covered him when

780
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 2: he was with the Titans for all those years.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, well, one thing he was very likable here.

782
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: He was super popular here as well, So I mean, like,

783
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: notwithstanding Ship Kelly and what they've had on the offensive

784
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 3: side of the ball over the last couple of years,

785
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: but Arthur Smith should endear himself to that team. And

786
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Speaker 3: clearly what you saw when they faced tough defenses is

787
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: that it was just very, very stagnant and lethargic. And

788
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: he will bring an openness to that offense that I

789
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: think they could certainly use based on, you know, recent

790
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: kind of outcomes for them. So it's an interesting move,

791
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: to say the least. We'll see how it plays out.

792
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: I kinda I think it. I think it's good. But

793
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: if you have Steelers fans, they would say really because

794
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: the offenses there weren't all that great. So again, Derrick

795
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 3: Henry makes you look better in most cases, then you're

796
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: gonna look otherwise. And that may be the case here.

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Speaker 3: We may be talking about that by mid season next year.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, and we're certain to talk about the Steelers

800
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Speaker 2: coming up. Mike McCarthy is a fit the new head coach.

801
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Speaker 2: Busy week across the world of sports. Yeah, oh no, well,

802
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: we got plenty of time. Well maybe we talked Mike

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00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: McCarthy to lead next hour. But Mike McCarthy is, uh,

804
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Speaker 2: the head coach of the Steelers. Jesse Mintor is the

805
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: head coach of the Ravens.

806
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Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills. What are they gonna do? Who knows.

807
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Speaker 2: So it was a fun week across the world of sports. Obviously,

808
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: by the way, at some point we gotta go ahead

809
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: and get to the Indiana National Championship run as well.

810
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Speaker 2: But two hours left. Erin tors Jason Martin. We've covered

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Speaker 2: the two games on Sunday, plenty more coming up. We'll

812
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: talk Steelers have a head coach, Ravens have a head coach.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills do not have a head coach. That's next.

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Speaker 2: Erin Torris, Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hope you're having a great Saturday. Of course, if you're

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Speaker 2: in the East coast, the southeast, the Midwest, hope you're

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Speaker 2: of course surviving the crazy weather. Hope everybody's safe if

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Speaker 2: you're out on the roads, please travel safe. J Mart

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Speaker 2: is in Nashville. I'm not trying to make a lot

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Speaker 2: of your situation, Jmart, but any updates with you.

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Speaker 4: There was a lot of ice coming in.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're still with us, so obviously everything probably

827
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Speaker 2: is okay.

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Speaker 4: But everybody's still holding up strong in Nashville.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing, nothing has changed so far. The freezing ring

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Speaker 3: continues to fall, so fingers continue to be cross, but

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Speaker 3: all is good for now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just for any audience, you know, Jamart is

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Speaker 2: based in Nashville. We hope to have you till two

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Speaker 2: am Eastern.

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Speaker 4: Jason.

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Speaker 2: We hope you and your family are safe. Obviously we

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Speaker 2: have contingency plans. We may lose Jmart at any point tonight.

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00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: We certainly hope not, and of course we hope everything

839
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Speaker 2: stays safe there. But since you're here, J Mart, let's

840
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: go ahead and talk about it was a crazy week,

841
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: not only in the world of the NFL on the field,

842
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: four teams left to go to the Super Bowl, but

843
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: certainly off the field as well. And uh, you know

844
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: I did mention before the break Pittsburgh Steelers do have

845
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: a new head coach, Mike McCarthy, you know the the

846
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: you know, he's apparently NFL royalty, former Packers head coach,

847
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: former Cowboys head coach, now the head coach of the

848
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. Where were you and what were you doing

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Speaker 2: when you found out earlier on Saturday that Mike McCarthy

850
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Speaker 2: would be your new Pittsburgh Steelers head coach.

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Speaker 3: I was standing in my kitchen. I just finished, uh

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00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: making a cup of coffee, and I saw the email

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Speaker 3: from Fox the News Update telling me that it had happened,

854
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Speaker 3: and I said no, And then I went and looked

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Speaker 3: at went looked at a few of the websites I

856
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: usually checked, just to see and sure enough, indeed, and

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Speaker 3: I was just kind of like, really, this is where

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Speaker 3: we're going. It was just kind of kind of amazing,

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00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 3: quite frankly, Like it was just like the most here's

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Speaker 3: the thing, Like I don't think anybody's gonna say that

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy is a bad head coach, but he's just

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00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: so boring, Like it's such an uninspired dole, Like I

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00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: don't I don't know, like are you supposed to get

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Speaker 3: excited about this in some way, shape or form. I

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Speaker 3: don't see how it's just kind of it's the most blah,

866
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: mediocre mid higher that you possibly could have made, at

867
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: least just like when you first think about it. Now,

868
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: I've read some things over the last few hours about

869
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: how this is about, you know, the next quarterback that's

870
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: coming in. Yes, it probably gives you a better chance

871
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: to have Aaron Rodgers next year, but this is about

872
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 3: his history and developing quarterbacks. It's just like, well, okay, yeah,

873
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: he changed Aaron rodgers throwing motion early in his career,

874
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: but he's also been blessed with good quarterbacks everywhere he's been.

875
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: The difference right now is and I don't know what

876
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is going to do, but they don't have

877
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 3: that guy. Like I heard him saying, maybe they're gonna

878
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: do that for Will Howard. I read that from a

879
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: Steelers writer. It's just like, you know, Will Howard might

880
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: be the guy, and maybe it's gonna be McCarthy that

881
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: drags it out of him. I'm like, really, like, who

882
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: are you trying to convince here at that point, Like

883
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: I just again, I just shrugged my shoulders. It just

884
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: felt so uninspirings, like you got rid of Tomlin and

885
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: you're a franchise that is known for hiring very very

886
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: young guys thirty four and thirty seven years old, respectively,

887
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: throughout the history of the franchise. And now you go

888
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: grab a sixty three year old, and yes, you can say,

889
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: so is John Harball. They have similar records and they're

890
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: both sixty three years old. I understand that. But for

891
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: some reason, Harball doesn't have the stink on him that

892
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: McCarthy does.

893
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: In my opinion, Yeah, you know, so.

894
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: Boss certainly has a better reputation. I think there's no

895
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: doubt about that. I'll be honest, I didn't realize Mike

896
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: McCarthy was quite that old. I know he's been around

897
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: for a while and whatever. I just I didn't realize

898
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: he was that old, to be perfectly honest, But as

899
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 2: far as the actual hire is concerned, I'll be honest,

900
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: I actually don't hate it. I really don't. And it's

901
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: only because you know, it's where Pittsburgh is right now,

902
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: and the presumption is that at some point they have

903
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: to go get a young quarterback. I kind of assume

904
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers was definitely out the side door with

905
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy coming in because they things did not end.

906
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: Well there, you know, I you know, I'm sure that

907
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: some people would feel otherwise. I feel like it to

908
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 2: me makes it less likely that Aaron Rodgers is back.

909
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: But I will say, like, listen, listen, two things give

910
00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: me true. Certainly the Dallas run it felt underwhelming because

911
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: of the playoff results. But to me, like the thing

912
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: that got him fired in Dallas is also like the

913
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: thing that I think will make him successful in Pitts

914
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: or not successful. But it's the reason I don't hate

915
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 2: the hire. And he goes back to what we talked

916
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: about last week, j Mart, which is I don't think

917
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: this is a good job. And you have an old

918
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 2: defense that's overpaid, you have whatever you think the quarterback

919
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: situation is, it's not good by the way. I mean

920
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: the something to you and I know, but it's not

921
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: like this is a great quarterback class once you get

922
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: past the first pick with Fernando Mendoza, which is something

923
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers don't have. And so I just bring it

924
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: up because he is a quarterback developer. Dak was excellent

925
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: under his watch, you know, Aaron Rodgers. You referenced what

926
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: he was able to do with Aaron Rodgers early in

927
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 2: his career, even if it fell off late and Aaron

928
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: Rodgers had a resurgence after he left. And so I

929
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: just don't hate it because one, I don't know who

930
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: you think who you thought you were gonna get.

931
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 4: But two, this is kind of a rebuild.

932
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: And so to me, it's about do you have a

933
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: guy that when you eventually get a quarterback, that hypothetically

934
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: might be able to develop them and I think Mike

935
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: McCarthy can't. And is the ceiling, you know, with Mike

936
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: McCarthy all that high. No, the ceiling wasn't that high

937
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: with Mike Tomlin. And so it at least to me,

938
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: feels like a hard reset with a guy that can

939
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: fix the problem that you have had for about seven

940
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: or eight years now, since Big Ben started to fall

941
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: off a cliff late in his career. And to me,

942
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: that's all you could really ask for in the higher

943
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: Now again, the age i'm a little surprised by. I

944
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: assume they'd go younger. But I actually just don't hate

945
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: it for that exact reason.

946
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 3: So I don't even think that I hate it either.

947
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: I don't think that I can get get like interested

948
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 3: enough either. Yeah, it's fair, that's that's kind of where

949
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: I am. Again, it's just such a milk toastteal, like

950
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: all that you just said is not inaccurate. But doesn't

951
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: this just feel like a placeholder, Like it doesn't feel

952
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: like a long term answer. It doesn't even look like

953
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 3: it's designed to be a long term answer. We're not expecting.

954
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: And look, McCarthy's a Pittsburgh native, and you know he's

955
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 3: gonna be excited to come back home and all these

956
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: other kinds of things. But it's like, you didn't hire

957
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy to be there for a decade. I just

958
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: I don't see that being the idea here. And that's

959
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: such an anti Steelers thing to do, because again, you

960
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: usually have young guys and you have this plan that

961
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: you can, you know, keep them for a very very

962
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: long time, and you really believe in them and you're

963
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 3: gonna give them the opportunity to build and give them

964
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: the resources. But this Steelers franchise, the way it's been

965
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 3: run in the last couple of years, last handful of years,

966
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 3: it just hasn't been the same as it was under

967
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: the previous Rooney regime. And so I look at this

968
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: and it's just, let's say, Mike McCarthy's there three to

969
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 3: five years, like of the guys that might only be

970
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: there for five years. Boy, I like Kyle Whittingham at

971
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: at Michigan a whole lot more than I like Mike

972
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 3: McCarthy and Pittsburgh. And here's the thing. They're not going

973
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: to be bad, right, Like, they're not gonna be a

974
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: horrible team because McCarthy usually doesn't do that. But that

975
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 3: actually makes it more difficult to actually get the quarterback

976
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 3: that you actually need unless you're gonna sacrifice a lot

977
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: of draft assets because they need to go. They need

978
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 3: to be bad enough to actually get a dude that

979
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: can be a franchise quarterback again, and that just hasn't

980
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: been the case. And so they play musical chairs with

981
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 3: quarterbacks annually. Let's say Aaron does come back, it's gonna

982
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: be one more year, max, And then what are you

983
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: looking at? Like, I just who is in the building

984
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 3: and what you and if you win eight to ten

985
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 3: games again, you're gonna be right in the middle when

986
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 3: it comes to draft position, which it's going to continue

987
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 3: to be the same problem over and over again. And

988
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 3: that's that's just no.

989
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 2: Good really quick in that division. I don't know what

990
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: I was expecting from the Baltimore Ravens I see mentor

991
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: to me, almost feels like the way that you are

992
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: describing the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like I he was a hot name.

993
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: It's a great job. I don't know how I feel

994
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: about it, and I don't know that I love the fit.

995
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 4: I'll be honest.

996
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: It's just again, I felt like the job of the

997
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: coach was to bring in a guy that was going

998
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: to absolutely get the absolute most out of Lamar Jackson.

999
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: Yep.

1000
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: And it's not say that jesse Minch won't. It's just

1001
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: to say that he's a defensive guy, and a lot

1002
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: of it will be based on the offensive coordinator and

1003
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: quarterbacks coach that he ends up bringing in. Again, I

1004
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: don't know that I hate it. I just don't know

1005
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: that I love it either. Any strong opinions on that one.

1006
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: I kind of I mean, I'm kind of with you.

1007
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 3: He was definitely a hot name. And I do think

1008
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: that Baltimore wants to get back. I feel like their

1009
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: ownership group is a little bit tired of that defense

1010
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: not being talked about more, and they've underperformed in the

1011
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: last couple of years. But if you a Jackson again,

1012
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: and like it has been proven in the last few

1013
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: years that he is willing to just kind of take

1014
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 3: his ball and go home to some degree. And if

1015
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: that's the reason why Harbaugh needed to go as well,

1016
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: is because you wanted to maximize Lamar who is And look,

1017
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: some people are still going to argue he's in his prime.

1018
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm not. I think with the injuries and everything we've seen,

1019
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: he's not quite as dynamic as he was. That doesn't

1020
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: mean that he's not dynamic. It just means that to

1021
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: some level that has diminished. So, yeah, that OC is

1022
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 3: going to be the entire kit and kaboodle. Really, Like,

1023
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 3: I don't think that they are building this team to be,

1024
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: you know, a squad that wins seven to three games.

1025
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 3: I don't. So we're gonna have to see, Like we

1026
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: don't know. Here's the thing. It worked out for Seattle

1027
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: bringing in a defensive guy and they end up getting

1028
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: the offense right, They've got the right OC that looks

1029
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: like maybe they have the right quarterback JSN really shows

1030
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 3: up and then they run the ball well and they

1031
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: build and draft well guess what Baltimore usually builds and

1032
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: drafts well. And if the defense actually can do its thing,

1033
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: and they do have a competent offense considering the weapons

1034
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 3: they still have, and maybe they have some plans in

1035
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 3: free agency or in the off season to do some

1036
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 3: more in that regard. You know, it could work. I'm

1037
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: not skeptical of it. I just when I saw the

1038
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: higher I was just kind of like, I don't know,

1039
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: but you know, maybe in five years we're going to

1040
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 3: be super impressed with it. I just I don't know

1041
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 3: what to make it, jesse mentor because I haven't seen

1042
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: enough yet.

1043
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: Really quickly, let's switch gears. One team that does not

1044
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: have a head coach right now, the Buffalo Bills. So

1045
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: you and I, I think we're kind of aligned in

1046
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: that it felt like if the Bills didn't make a

1047
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: run in the playoffs, they were going to have to

1048
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: make a move. Then you and I were both on

1049
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: last Saturday, obviously in this time slot right after the

1050
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: loss in which there were five total turnovers for by

1051
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. We both you know, there was also the

1052
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: very questionable catch late non catch catch whatever, and we said.

1053
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 4: It was really that it wasn't really on Sean McDermott.

1054
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,479
Speaker 2: Well, apparently Terry Pagoula thought so said after the game.

1055
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: Basically I was in that locker room it felt like

1056
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: we had hit a wall. I just bring it up

1057
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: because Bills don't have a coach. But more than the

1058
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 2: Bills not having a coach, I don't really know if

1059
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: the Bills have a plan as far as the next

1060
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: head coach. And I was texting with you, this kind

1061
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: of reminds me last offseason of the New York Knicks

1062
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: in the NBA, where you know, they fire TIBs and

1063
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: you sit there and say, well, okay, I mean, you know,

1064
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: they did hit a wall. It does feel like the

1065
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: players maybe or checked out on TIBs.

1066
00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 3: What do they have?

1067
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be Jay Wright? Is it gonna be

1068
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: you know, Mike Malone was available at the time.

1069
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 4: Who's it gonna be? And then they kind of dragged.

1070
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: Their feet and then they didn't get who they wanted

1071
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: and then they ended up with Mike Brown. And so

1072
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, you know, again, it remains to

1073
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: be seeing who the Bills hire as their next head coach,

1074
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: But obviously the Buffalo Bill's head coaching job. With Josh

1075
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: Allen entering his year thirty season, you still think he's

1076
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: got a couple of years left in that prime, felt

1077
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: like it would be a very desirable job. But it

1078
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Speaker 2: does not feel like there is really a rhyme or

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00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 2: a reason to who is interviewing at this point for

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00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: that gig.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's I don't I don't understand that. Like,

1082
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: if you make rash decisions that aren't particularly well thought out,

1083
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: or you don't use new information to kind of alter

1084
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 3: your thought processes or at least stop after something that

1085
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 3: feels really bad happens and you get emotional after the fact,

1086
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: you can end up making a mista. And usually good

1087
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 3: franchises avoid doing that. They don't panic, they don't lose

1088
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: their heads in those moments, and as a result, you know,

1089
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 3: they they end up having some form of stability. I

1090
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 3: think the biggest thing is this feels very unstable and volatile,

1091
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: like you've added the wrong chemicals in your chemistry class,

1092
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: and even the teacher is kind of backing towards the door, like, uh,

1093
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure about this. There there have been

1094
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 3: a couple of instances in this coaching cycle of things

1095
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 3: like that happening, Like, you know, I had some people

1096
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 3: reach out to me and we're asking what I thought

1097
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: of Sala getting the Tennessee job. I was like, I

1098
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: like Robert Sala. I thought they'd probably go offense, because

1099
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: you know, cam Warden's development is so important. But they

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Speaker 3: just had an offensive dude and that didn't work. So

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00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: maybe they're gonna go, you know, try to beef up

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Speaker 3: that defense a little bit with a dude, this kind

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Speaker 3: of a raw rock guy who maybe got a raw

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Speaker 3: deal with the Jets. Bring in the right OC and

1105
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens from there. So I actually understood

1106
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 3: that decision, for instance, But there are some of these

1107
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 3: where it's just kind of like, if you're gonna end

1108
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: up in that position, then why even do the thing

1109
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 3: that you did in the first place. The Knicks is

1110
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 3: the perfect example of it, because it's just like, this

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00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: is what you did for that, and here's the thing

1112
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 3: you didn't do this for that. You did it for

1113
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: something that you didn't know was gonna end up being that,

1114
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 3: and that is a huge indictment on your decision making process.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's still without a head coach. We'll see what happens.

1116
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 2: They've certainly done a handful of interviews. No word yet

1117
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: on who is a favorite, or if a favorite exists.

1118
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills need a head coach. Fox Sports Radio er

1119
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, one team that doesn't need a

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Speaker 2: head coach, the Indiana Hoosiers twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Do we call the twenty twenty six national champs?

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Speaker 2: I'm very confused by that twenty twenty five season, twenty

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00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 2: twenty six champs. We talk about what we saw Monday,

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00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: what it means for college football, what.

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 4: It might mean for the SEC. That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

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00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Ertorius Jason Martin broadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios with the new

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Speaker 2: and improved iHeartRadio app.

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1131
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,280
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1132
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: shows live twenty four to seven in that new and

1133
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,400
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1134
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,960
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1135
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,480
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1136
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: your presets in the iHeartRadio app so it will always pop.

1137
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 4: Up at the top of your screen.

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00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: Well, come back, We'll talk some Indiana the end of

1139
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: college football and what's next in that sport. Before we do, though,

1140
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: let's get it over to the news desk second time tonight.

1141
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: Steve de Sager, twelve, twenty five Eastern.

1142
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: What is trending?

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00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: Excert?

1144
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 8: Just about everything is final? The late NHL game has

1145
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 8: about ten minutes minutes to go. Caps tied four to

1146
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 8: four at Edmonton, already Columbus and eight five winner over

1147
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 8: Tampa Bay. In college hoops, we had number two Connecticut

1148
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 8: in overtime beating Villanova. Seventy five sixty seven wins for

1149
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 8: Illinois and Texas Tech. At the Australian Open. Number one

1150
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 8: Carlos Alcarez is close to closing out his fourth round

1151
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 8: match in a sweep against Tommy Paul of the US.

1152
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 8: In the NBA Everything's Final, the Lakers won after blowing

1153
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 8: the lead, had a strong final few minutes to win

1154
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 8: at Dallas Anyway won sixteen to one ten thirty three

1155
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Speaker 8: points for Luca Donzig, victories from Miami and Cleveland. Wins

1156
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Speaker 8: for Charlotte and New York, which won at Philadelphia today

1157
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 8: one twelve, one oh nine despite thirty eight points from

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00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 8: Joel Embiide Chicago on a last second three Pointer beat

1159
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 8: the Boston Celtics one fourteen one eleven. Golden State at

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00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 8: Minnesota postponed to Sunday after another ice related shooting nearby.

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Speaker 8: They'll play against each other again on Monday as scheduled

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00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 8: as well. Steph Curry now questionable for the Sunday game

1163
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 8: with the Sorney Wolves have lost four in a row.

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00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 8: Kawhi Leonard of the Clippers mispracticed today due to illness.

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00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 8: He's questionable for Sunday. Devin Booker of the Suns out

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00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 8: Sunday with an ankle injury. Memphis guard John Morant out

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00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 8: at least three weeks, reportedly with an elbow injury. Scottie

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00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 8: Scheffler is one stroke back in Southern California after a

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00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 8: third round sixty eight Seewoo Kim leads the event. Ludwig

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Speaker 8: Olberg withdrew due to illness. US women's soccer won its

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00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 8: exhibition in La six nothing over Paraguay. The US outshot

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Speaker 8: him nineteen to two in the game. That contest was

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00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 8: scoreless late in the first half. The team's been holding

1174
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Speaker 8: its annual training camp in Southern California.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 8: It'll play an exhibition on Tuesday against Chile. The Steelers'

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Speaker 8: new aad coaches Mike McCarthy and the Cleveland Guardians are

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Speaker 8: reportedly giving All star third baseman Jose ra Mirrors an

1179
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 8: extension through twenty thirty two, while the Mets invited reliever

1180
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Speaker 8: Craig Kimberl to spring training.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve the Saga

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00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio enter towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios to Saga. Will be back

1184
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: in about fIF teen minutes from now with his extended update,

1185
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: which he gives us every Saturday or Sunday late into

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Speaker 2: our show about twelve forty five Eastern time. J mart

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Speaker 2: you know, listen, it's a little bit of a weak

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01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: old story at this point, and you know, there's so

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01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 2: much going on in the world of sports, so much

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Speaker 2: to react to. But we are the show of record

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, on college football on FSR.

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: A lot of people cover it, but we're obviously on

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Speaker 2: this Saturday window after all the late games. So the

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Speaker 2: final game was this week, and it feels like we

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Speaker 2: should at least discuss a thriller in Miami twenty seven

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Speaker 2: to twenty one final score. The Indiana Hoosiers National Champions.

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Speaker 2: We don't need to get into too many details or

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Speaker 2: specifics from the game, but that big Fernando Mendoza run

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Speaker 2: on fourth down gave Indiana a lead. Obviously, Miami was

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Speaker 2: able to cut into it. They scored shortly thereafter, but

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Speaker 2: Indiana wins thrilling game. Hoosier's your National champions. Valiant effort

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Speaker 2: from Miami. I got a lot of takes, but your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on what we saw Monday night in Miami.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the way it should have ended, considering

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01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: the season in Indiana. It's just it almost would have

1206
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,919
Speaker 3: felt inappropriate for them not to finish it off. But yeah,

1207
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 3: Miami definitely showed their worth in the game. It came

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01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: down to back making one throw he shouldn't make, and

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01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he wasn't great during the game, but they

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01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: were able to run it on Indiana more than other

1211
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: teams have. At least they cut a couple of big

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01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 3: time chunk plays. Fletcher was still doing this thing. The

1213
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: defense was bothering Mendoza to the point they were, you know,

1214
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: obviously even hitting him late and doing everything they could

1215
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,959
Speaker 3: to make him uncomfortable and making it feel it Now

1216
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 3: the fourth down run. I don't know what the over

1217
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: under is on how long we will see that highlight,

1218
01:01:54,040 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: but I could bet my daughter's children they'll still be

1219
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 3: running it because it was one of the most just amazing.

1220
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 3: It was perfect too, and it looked it looked like

1221
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: it was made for the camera too. Like everything about it,

1222
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 3: I can I can watch that play forever and not

1223
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 3: get tired of it, And I imagine you're going to

1224
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 3: have to because they are going to run that in

1225
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 3: every highlight package for the College Football Playoff for perpetuity.

1226
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Speaker 3: But I think it's a worthy champion, a worthy champion,

1227
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 3: but also a championship game that delivered on a lot

1228
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 3: of fronts. There was a whole lot of drama and honestly,

1229
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 3: the mistake Beck made, I mean, they didn't have timeouts there,

1230
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 3: but it's still a throw. He probably didn't have to

1231
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 3: make a wish for Miami's sake, he hadn't made it.

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Speaker 3: But that's why I picked Indiana to win is because

1233
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 3: I just didn't trust that Beck wouldn't make a mistake,

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01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 3: and he ended up making that mistake in the game,

1235
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Speaker 3: and really throughout that game he was kind of the again,

1236
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 3: more of a hindrance than he was anything else in

1237
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 3: this game. He wasn't the same running threat that he

1238
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: had been in previous rounds. Indiana had that kind of

1239
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: taken care of, but it was just it was a

1240
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: very entertaining championship game, and I do think that it

1241
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 3: ended the way this college football season should have ended,

1242
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 3: which is Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza in company raising

1243
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: that trophy and pulling one of the greatest turnarounds ever

1244
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: seen in sports history right in front of our eyes.

1245
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Speaker 3: The fact that Indiana just won a national championship is

1246
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 3: something that I don't even know what to say. I

1247
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 3: never thought we would see that, not in my lifetime,

1248
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: not my daughter's lifetime, not in four generations from now.

1249
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Speaker 3: And here we are and they're not going anywhere.

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01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you a question on that, because

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01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: I'm kind of conflicted, and I think one of the

1252
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: stories that came out of Monday night, and I think

1253
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: it's fair to have the conversation of if Indiana can

1254
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 2: win a national championship, every team at least in the

1255
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: Big ten SEC, know, the teams that have money to

1256
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: realistically compete at the top, should feel like, hey, why

1257
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: not us? You know, We're coming off of a season

1258
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 2: where Vanderbilt won ten games. You know, historically that's not

1259
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 2: something that has I don't know if it's ever happened.

1260
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: Actually in the modern era. You know, Kentucky as a

1261
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: new head coach and they've recruited well. So take the

1262
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is there is that narrative,

1263
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 2: and I get it, and I don't think it's wrong.

1264
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 2: And I do think that if you're a Kentucky fan,

1265
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: or a Kansas football fan, or a Kansas State fan

1266
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: or whoever, you should have hoped that if Indiana could

1267
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: do it, why not us. I also do think Signetti

1268
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: is like a one of one, once in a lifetime outlier.

1269
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: And the analogy that I use this week, it reminds

1270
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 2: me a little bit of when Steph Curry and the

1271
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: Warriors first kind of came on the scene and everybody

1272
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: was like, oh, you know, look at how look how

1273
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: many threes they shoot. Well, we need to just shoot

1274
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 2: more threes and get guys that make more threes. And

1275
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: it's like, do you have Steph Curry right, do you

1276
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: have Klay Thompson? Do you have two of the five

1277
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: greatest shooters of all time? No, then you're not the

1278
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: Warriors and you will never be the Warriors. And again,

1279
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that a Vandy fan shouldn't dream big,

1280
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: a Kentucky football fan, a Mississippi State fan, a Purdue fan,

1281
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: teams that have historically not have levels of success. I

1282
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: get the concept. I do sort of think Signetti is

1283
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: like a one of one outlier more than I think

1284
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: it is just this era where anyone can win it

1285
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: in any given time.

1286
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's true until further notice.

1287
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: I think that Indiana winning certainly does kind of open

1288
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Speaker 3: up the hope train for a whole lot of other organizations,

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Speaker 3: but it should not change the standard. Like if you

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01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: are a bottom of the barrel franchise, have all the

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01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 3: hope that you want, but don't just you know, run

1292
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Speaker 3: coaches through a car wash because they aren't Kurt Signetti.

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 3: The reason why so many guys lost their jobs in

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01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: EESEC from two thousand and nine to two thousand and

1295
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: at least twenty twenty is because they couldn't beat Nick Saban,

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01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 3: and then they were replaced by guys who largely couldn't

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Speaker 3: beat Nick Saban. And the reason why that was is

1298
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 3: because there's only one Nick Saban. The reason why he's

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Speaker 3: hard to beat is because of who he is. You

1300
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 3: can't go find somebody on trees that's going to go

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01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 3: beat him. Otherwise it wouldn't matter, and it wouldn't mean

1302
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 3: anything when you did beat him. So now you've got

1303
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 3: a Kirby Smart and you've got some other guys that

1304
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: were in that mix. But Kurt Signetti what he was

1305
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 3: able to do toppling all the giants, utilizing the transfer

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01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 3: portal effectively and then coaching guys up to an insane

1307
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 3: degree that right there, like, there's gonna be a whole

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01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: lot of coaches that can't beat Kurt Signetti going forward,

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01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 3: We've already seen a lot of them. Teams need to

1310
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 3: stay the course with guys that they believe in, whether

1311
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 3: they lose to a Kurt Signetti or not. That's that's

1312
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,439
Speaker 3: probably the biggest thing is take it. You know, if

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01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: you can find the right coach, you've got a shot.

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01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 3: But also you got to have money, and Indiana had money.

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01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 3: They've always hadn't They just haven't you know, been able

1316
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 3: to spend it up until now. So you put them

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01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 3: kind of in a different classification. A lot of those

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01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: kind of like bottom SEC schools don't have anywhere near

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Speaker 3: the money that Indiana does in that case. So there

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01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 3: are other factors that go into this, but the biggest

1321
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 3: thing is and to your point you said one of one,

1322
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 3: like yeah, he's a unicorn. Like there, you could have

1323
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 3: put almost anybody else on the sidelines with the exact

1324
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 3: same roster and they may have been really good, but

1325
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 3: they wouldn't have won the national championship. I am convinced

1326
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 3: that it is the culture that Signetti has brought, and

1327
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 3: I think that it mixed perfectly with like that optimistic

1328
01:07:53,840 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 3: but tenacious manner of Fernando Mendoza that kind of just

1329
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: drew it in. And then you had leadership on both lines,

1330
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 3: especially on the offensive line, So you just had a

1331
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 3: perfect mix, and Signetti and his staff are to credit

1332
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 3: for all of it.

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Speaker 2: Don't disagree there. You know, you mentioned it really quick,

1334
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 2: So let's talk about it. SEC third straight year. Not

1335
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: only do they out win a national championship, they're not

1336
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: even in the title game. Everything is cyclical, and I

1337
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: certainly don't think, you know, we're going to live in

1338
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: a world where the SEC never wins a championship again

1339
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 2: in the next ten years. It does feel like where

1340
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: college football is trending, where I think having money is

1341
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: it the only thing. You still have to spend it correctly,

1342
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 2: but it does matter.

1343
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,959
Speaker 4: And you look.

1344
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 2: At, say, what Michigan did last year with Bryce Underwood.

1345
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: You look at we don't know what Notre Dame's doing,

1346
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 2: but you know, we know that it's a school that

1347
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,839
Speaker 2: probably financially is not a concern. Texas Tech Texas clearly

1348
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 2: has a lot of money, Texas A and M It

1349
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: does like, really frankly outside of the Texas schools that

1350
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: the sport is sort of skewing away from the SEC.

1351
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: What do you make of that part of the conversation

1352
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 2: where thirty year in a row at this point, it's

1353
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 2: more than a coincidence. It's definitely a trend and it

1354
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: doesn't And you know, I think you and I mentioned

1355
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: this the other day, but I think the other thing

1356
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: that's worth noting Dante Moore coming back at Oregon. We

1357
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 2: mentioned Julian saying and Jeremiah Smith back in Ohio State.

1358
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 2: Indiana is certainly not going anywhere. It's not like these

1359
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 2: are these weird one year outlier situations.

1360
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 4: The Big Ten actually could.

1361
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: Be stronger in some ways next year. But just big

1362
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: picture state of the SEC.

1363
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 3: Big picture state of the SEC is it's still an

1364
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 3: excellent conference. But the extra credit on the assignment, you

1365
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 3: don't get that anymore. Like that, that's not something you

1366
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 3: get just by showing up. I think that's the biggest thing.

1367
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 3: We can't grade on the SEC curve anymore. Where because

1368
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 3: you're in the SEC you get some kind of value

1369
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 3: added to your ranking, to your perception and all of

1370
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 3: this because of the schedule that you had to play

1371
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: and all of that. Like that that right there. I

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01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 3: don't think washes anymore. I don't think that there is

1373
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 3: and I don't think most people are going to do that.

1374
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 3: But I am curious to see if finally the rankings

1375
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 3: kind of support that, Like are we going to see

1376
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: it'd be a tougher road for an SEC school. And

1377
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 3: I would say this Alabama, if everything goes identical to

1378
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: the way it went this year, based on the results

1379
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 3: of this year and what we've seen in the last couple,

1380
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 3: I think Alabama is out going forward. I think that

1381
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: we're going to see that changed since they didn't expand

1382
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 3: this playoff. I think that SEC schools are going to

1383
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: have to show a lot more than just we play

1384
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,879
Speaker 3: in the SEC to get there, because at this point

1385
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 3: they're at best on even keel. But really, the Big

1386
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,879
Speaker 3: Ten right now is the premier conference in college football.

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01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's not even in Alabama conversation. It is worth noting.

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01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but Cody Campbell,

1389
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 2: who is basically the booster who is funding Texas Tech

1390
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: right now, he was doing some interviews somewhere this week

1391
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,719
Speaker 2: and he said, quote, you can look at the transfer

1392
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 2: portal rankis right now, schools like Alabama and Auburn are struggling.

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01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: They don't have the booster support. Nothing against Alabama. I

1394
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: have a ton of respect for the program, but they

1395
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: can't raise the money like the University of Texas can.

1396
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 2: They don't have as much money in the institution itself.

1397
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 2: They don't have the donor support. And I don't think

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01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 2: it's a lie. One, It actually just isn't a lie factually.

1399
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 2: But two, you know, Alabama is at an interesting crossroads.

1400
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: I think the SEC is as well. J Mart third

1401
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 2: straight year with no national champion, Indiana your twenty twenty

1402
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 2: six national champion.

1403
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 4: All right, Fox Sports Radio eronor toors.

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01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: with his extended update. We get it every week around

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Speaker 2: this time. Can't wait to hear what he has on

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01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: a busy day in the NBA college basketball. Two NFL

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01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: games on Sunday to Saga. Next, Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody,

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01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Air tors Jason Martin broadcasting live. Yes,

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01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 2: we are live here at twelve forty six Eastern Time,

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01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 2: as we do every week around this time. Let's get

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Speaker 2: it over to the news desk. Steve de Sager with

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01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: your extended update. The floor's yours, sir.

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01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 8: Something on the college football You are talking about it

1422
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 8: in a moment, but just about everything is final for

1423
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 8: this Saturday night. Justin Gage Gee has just gotten a

1424
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 8: UFC victory. Now with the time difference. The Australian Open

1425
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 8: is still going, but Coco go Off for the US

1426
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 8: three seed has dominated her first set of the fourth

1427
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 8: round er on the men's side, Number one Carlos Alcarez Advance. Now,

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 8: the TV ratings that were out this week had the

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01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:15,839
Speaker 8: Miami Indiana National Championship game in college football averaging thirty

1430
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 8: million viewers total across all the ESPN networks. That is

1431
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 8: a massive number for TV in general, but for college football.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question.

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01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: Indiana highest rated ever conference championship game against Ohio State

1434
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl was like best in several years national championship game?

1435
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: Is it the Indiana story? Is it all the coincidence?

1436
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about that. I think my personal opinion,

1437
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: I'll throw to you guys. I do think not having

1438
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: the same four teams and then I do think the

1439
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 2: story built as the season went on. But I'd be

1440
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 2: curious to SAG and j Mark certainly as well. I

1441
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 2: don't know if anyone has any takes on that, but

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01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting.

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01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 3: My just my one quick thing would be, I don't

1444
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 3: think you get the same rating if this were to

1445
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 3: happen again next year. I do think there is something

1446
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 3: to the novelty of this and wanting to watch history.

1447
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 3: I don't know that you get that again.

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01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 8: And Mendoza is very likable and people seem to know him,

1449
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 8: not only from the excitement regular season. You can label

1450
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 8: him Heisman winner all of that. Number one, I will say, yeah,

1451
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 8: and quite possibly poor guy.

1452
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 9: As for the actual TV ratings, you know, the numbers

1453
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 9: are often larger because of the way they do the

1454
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 9: data now and they count out of home viewing, and

1455
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 9: they have streaming now.

1456
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 8: To add to the number. That doesn't explain all what

1457
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 8: you talked about with Indiana, though, I think it's the story.

1458
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 8: We get to the NFL, which is still the NFL.

1459
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 8: People in the TV ratings, it's a gorilla. The divisional

1460
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 8: round last weekend, those games average thirty nine million viewers,

1461
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 8: and that includes the Sunday evening window, which is not

1462
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 8: only a great window for television ratings, it was a

1463
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 8: great aim with the Rams Bears overtime that was forty

1464
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 8: five million viewers last week. In other words, forty million

1465
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 8: on TV Nielsen ratings, plus another five million with the

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 8: streaming audience measured by Adobe Analytics. As for college hoops,

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01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 8: I believe our beloved co host has mentioned that we

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 8: are the what Yukon show of record or some such things.

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01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 8: Connecticut Natives women's show record, Well, they are still undefeated

1470
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 8: at number one Yukon ninety two to fifty two, winners

1471
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 8: at Seaton Hall today, twenty one in er record. Yukon

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 8: will host Tennessee next weekend on Fox TV. Connecticut's last

1473
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 8: ranked opponent on the schedule. Georgia women won at number

1474
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 8: eleven Kentucky, and Sunday's Texas at Arkansas women's game was

1475
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 8: postponed the next month due to bad weather. Tennessee men

1476
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 8: won tonight at number seventeen Alabama seventy nine seventy three

1477
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 8: eighth rank, and Zaga held on to edge San Francisco

1478
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 8: sixty eight sixty six and number thirteen BYU defeated rival

1479
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 8: Utah ninety one seventy eight freshman aj De Bonsa with

1480
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 8: forty three points and six ranked. Houston had a freshman today,

1481
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 8: Kingston Flemings, with forty two points in defeat at number

1482
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 8: twelve Texas Tech ninety to eighty six. So apparently in

1483
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 8: Big twelve history, it's the first day they've had multiple

1484
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 8: forty point scores and it wasn't just that De Bonsa

1485
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 8: with the school freshman record for BYU and Flemings with

1486
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 8: the school freshman record for Houston.

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01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 2: You see, Illinois had a freshman that I think he

1488
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: put up forty two. I believe I saw that. It

1489
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: was the first time in recorded that they can find

1490
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 2: three freshmen in one day had forty plus points in

1491
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 2: a single game.

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01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 8: That is correct since freshman became eligible over fifty years

1493
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 8: ago in Division hoops. And Keaton Wagler of Illinois in

1494
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 8: a win at Purdue eighty eight eighty two, forty six

1495
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 8: points and from three point range he was nine of eleven.

1496
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 8: This isn't that old a acc three point range like

1497
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 8: when they just put the line in back in the

1498
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 8: eighties and it was inside the top of the This

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Speaker 8: is very impressive. Were two Connecticut men in overtime beat Villanova,

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Speaker 8: victories for North Carolina and Arkansas. Texas beat number twenty

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01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 8: one Georgia eighty seven sixty seven, and Auburn got its

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01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 8: first winn in Gainesville in thirty years, a victory at

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01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 8: number sixteen Florida seventy six sixty seven. The feature matchup

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01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 8: in the NBA tonight was the Lakers who blew a

1505
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 8: lead and still came back to win at Dallas one

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01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 8: sixteen to one ten. Luka Doncic thirty three points. He's

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01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 8: now four to zero against his old team, and according

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01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 8: to stat Zinc, this is now six straight road games

1509
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 8: where he's had at least thirty points and eight assists

1510
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 8: and at least one steal, longest such streak in those

1511
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 8: categories by any player in the history of the NBA.

1512
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 8: Miami set Utah to another loss, one forty seven to

1513
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 8: one sixteen. At Chicago. The Bulls retired Derrick Roses Jersey tonight.

1514
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 8: He's a Chicago native, and the Bulls beat Boston on

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01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 8: a last second three pointer one fourteen to one eleven.

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01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 8: Jalen Brown thirty three points. Cleveland's Donovan Mitchell with thirty

1517
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 8: six in a win at Orlando. Charlotte edged Washington today.

1518
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 8: The Wizards have not only lost nine straight, they're now

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01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 8: ten and thirty four this season, and New York won

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 8: at Philadelphia today one twelve, one oh nine, even though

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01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 8: Joel Embiid had thirty eight points Jalen Brunson with thirty one.

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01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 8: The NBA All Star Game reserves are going to be

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01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 8: announced on Sunday, February first, as selected by the league's

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01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 8: head coaches. It'll be a list of fourteen players, seven

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01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 8: from each conference. The starters were announced this past Monday.

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01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 8: The NBA All Star Game is February fifteenth at the

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01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 8: LA Clippers Arena, which will be hosting Olympic basketball in

1528
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 8: a couple of years. There's a new All Star Game format,

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01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 8: two teams of US players, one team of international players,

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01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 8: and it's a round robin tournament, so you still get

1531
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 8: four twelve minute quarters, but really it's four twelve minute games.

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01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 8: This year, the All Stars are selected without regard to

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01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 8: position as well. In the process for assigning players to

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01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 8: the two US teams is still to be determined. Golden

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01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 8: State at Minnesota post post to tomorrow. Already they had

1536
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 8: a Monday game scheduled at the same site, so they'll

1537
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 8: be playing each other Sunday and Monday in Minnesota. And yes,

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01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 8: the Steelers do have a new head coach, and yes

1539
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 8: it's Mike McCarthy. Somebody I believe on this show yawned

1540
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 8: at that news, but Pittsburgh native does have the job.

1541
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 8: The Steelers franchise has lost seven straight playoff games over

1542
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 8: the past decade. Interesting to note this guy won his

1543
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 8: own only Super Bowl in the twenty ten season with

1544
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,959
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers as his quarterback at Green Bay, beating the Steelers.

1545
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 8: So already people are saying, oh, so, maybe Aaron Rodgers

1546
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 8: is not Okay, let's hold off on that. But it

1547
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 8: is an interesting tiet. Arthur Smith, former Steelers assistant, due

1548
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 8: to be Ohio State's new offensive coordinator, and the Dolphins

1549
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 8: are promoting Bobby Sloweck to offensive coordinator for new head

1550
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 8: coach Jeff Hafley. Remember it was two short years ago

1551
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 8: slow the next great young assistant that was going to

1552
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 8: be a head coach when he was at Houston. And

1553
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 8: what has the Houston offense been like the last couple

1554
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 8: of years? Can we just ask that question out loud?

1555
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 8: The Patriots activated wide receiver Mac Collins. The Broncos host

1556
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 8: New England Sunday in the AFC Title Game, then Seattle

1557
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 8: hosts the Rams for the NFC Championship.

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01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Sega to Saga will be

1559
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: with us for our three aeron Torris Jason Martin taking

1560
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: you up till two am Eastern. Yes, we will have

1561
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 2: our full preview and picks of the two games on Sunday,

1562
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 2: we will talk about everything else in the world of sports.

1563
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: But we're gonna next switch gears to the NBA. Inside

1564
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: the NBA, Charles Barkley not happy. He wants more airtime.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: one am Eastern from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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1580
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Speaker 2: Jay mart want to go ahead and switch gears so again,

1583
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: just so everybody's listening.

1584
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 4: One am Eastern. We are on live.

1585
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 2: We will reset the two games on Sunday here in

1586
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: just a few minutes. Should mention off the top as

1587
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: I have every hour wherever you are, especially if you're

1588
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,400
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01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,040
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1590
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01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 2: It's insanity out there. J Martin, of course, is with

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01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 2: us in Nashville where they're getting a lot of freezing

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01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: rain right now, Jay mart we'll get back to football

1594
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: at a minute. But something interesting popped up here over

1595
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: the course of the last couple of days. Came from

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01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: the world to the NBA, and it came actually off

1597
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:16,480
Speaker 2: the court. Okay, so inside the NBA is obviously an institution,

1598
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 2: and I don't even think in some ways, in a

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01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,879
Speaker 2: lot of ways, it is more entertaining than the games themselves.

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01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: And certainly it's a great way for people who maybe

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01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: don't follow the league on a night tonight basis, especially

1602
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 2: this time of year when football is still going on,

1603
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: great way to kind of follow the sport, the storylines,

1604
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: et cetera. Well, we all know that after last season,

1605
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: the contract with Turner and the NBA expired, which meant

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01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 2: that Inside the NBA.

1607
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 4: Would move to ESPN.

1608
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: And I kind of noticed over the last couple of

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01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 2: weeks it just felt like to me that we just

1610
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 2: weren't hearing a lot about Inside the NBA. And I thought, well,

1611
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just not watching the right channel, and I

1612
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: don't watch a ton of you know, there's only so

1613
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: much time, you know, we're all watching football this time

1614
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 2: of year. Maybe I'm just missing Inside the NBA. Apparently

1615
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm not.

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01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 4: Now.

1617
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 2: Inside the NBA was on after tonight's Lakers MAVs game,

1618
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: but it was maybe just the fifth time all season

1619
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 2: that Inside the NBA has appeared on ESPN. One person

1620
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: who is very unhappy with the workload and not enough

1621
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 2: of a workload is Charles Barkley. Here's what he told

1622
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: Dan LeBatard earlier this week.

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01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 10: And we've complained we've only been on ESPN, I think

1624
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 10: four times in three months.

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01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 11: We did like the first two weeks. We were off all.

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01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:39,520
Speaker 10: Of December to Christmas, and we're off into all of January.

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01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 11: Or until the twenty fourth.

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01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 10: I don't like that at all. What I was talking

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01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 10: about working all the time because I man, I love

1630
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:52,440
Speaker 10: watching basketball. I'm not gonna do all these damn shows.

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01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 11: That's the part. I'm not gonna be on ESPN one, two, three.

1632
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 10: Desportes, not Cho Echo, whatever they call it.

1633
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 11: I'm not gonna be doing all that.

1634
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 10: But I wish that we had been on more doing

1635
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 10: the first half of the season.

1636
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 11: But I just checked the schedule.

1637
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 10: I think we're on Saturday, Wednesday, Saturday, so they're gonna

1638
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 10: start and make it up some of the days. But

1639
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 10: I wish in December we only worked one day in

1640
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 10: December day and that was Christmas Day.

1641
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: That was Charles Barkley on Dan LeBatard earlier this week,

1642
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 2: so I was not wrong. They have not been on

1643
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley saying they've worked one day since December one

1644
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 2: up until today or Saturday. I should say, I know

1645
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: it's a Sunday in a good part of the country

1646
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: right now, but I bring it up because I remember

1647
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: talking about this with you in June of last year.

1648
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,799
Speaker 2: J mart As inside the NBA signed off with TNT.

1649
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: I said, I'm worried ESPN is gonna screw this up up.

1650
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 2: It feels like they have and it feels like the

1651
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: inside the NBA guys are unhappy about it.

1652
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is what I think is fascinating about

1653
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 3: this is and I've said this to you many times,

1654
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 3: but I dvard inside the NBA, usually on NBA TV

1655
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 3: because you'd get the replay, so you get the whole show.

1656
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes you didn't know when it was going to end

1657
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,839
Speaker 3: on TNT and so you'd miss ten fifteen minutes whatever.

1658
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 3: I've done it since before Shaq was there, I mean,

1659
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 3: way back when it was really just the three of them,

1660
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 3: or maybe they had Chris Weber in or somebody like that.

1661
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 3: I've done it forever, and this season I've kind of

1662
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 3: forgotten about it, and I think that is the is

1663
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 3: the that is like almost indefensibly bad. If you're ESPN,

1664
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 3: Like if you go to the app or whatever and

1665
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,520
Speaker 3: you scroll down, you'll see like they'll have some highighlights

1666
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 3: from inside the NBA and oh it's hilarious and all

1667
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 3: this other kind of stuff, some kind of cuts. I've

1668
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 3: just never clicked on any of them. And those guys

1669
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 3: are just out of sight, out of mind, And it's

1670
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 3: weird because I didn't think it would be that way.

1671
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 3: But they're still around, like you could still get them.

1672
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,600
Speaker 3: But because they were, they're back. They're backloading their schedule

1673
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,839
Speaker 3: so that they have more shows deep into the season,

1674
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 3: going down the stretch run, going into the playoffs, and

1675
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 3: then in the postseason, right, And I get that, but

1676
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 3: they've been so sparingly used to this point that like

1677
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 3: we've just kind of moved on, and because the NBA

1678
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 3: doesn't have the pull of the NFL, we've all been

1679
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 3: so focused on football that I really think it's kind

1680
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 3: of hurt the NBA generally, because those guys would actually

1681
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 3: make me more interested in the league as a whole.

1682
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 3: And I'm a big time NBA fan, But not having them,

1683
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,839
Speaker 3: I haven't paid attention to Peacock, i haven't paid attention

1684
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,560
Speaker 3: to Amazon Prime. I've just I've been much more football

1685
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 3: focused than anything else. And it really just like without them,

1686
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 3: I've just kind of tuned out in a lot of ways.

1687
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 3: And I wonder if I'm alone in that, because they

1688
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 3: were they were instrumental in getting me interested in various

1689
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 3: you know, races and various divisions and things of that

1690
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,799
Speaker 3: nature between a couple of teams and kind of keeping

1691
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 3: me up to date on some things, kind of enabling

1692
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 3: me not to have to watch every single minute of

1693
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 3: every single game. And it's just not there. And that's

1694
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 3: nothing against the people that have been doing it on

1695
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 3: the other networks, it's just without that as part of

1696
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 3: the diet, I've just kind of skipped a lot of meals.

1697
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 2: So I don't disagree with any of it. One I'm

1698
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: like you in that even like, even when I am

1699
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 2: locked into the NBA, you know, say during the playoffs,

1700
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: I would still go back. And you know, for me,

1701
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily DVR, but a lot of their clips

1702
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: back in the day I don't know about Now we're

1703
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 2: all on YouTube, and so you know, if there's a

1704
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: doubleheader or if it's early in the playoffs when there's

1705
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: three or four games going on at once, I would

1706
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 2: throw on that YouTube synopsis because to me that you know,

1707
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: they are the voices and continue to be the voice

1708
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: of the NBA. And so one I was worried this

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01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 2: was gonna happen, and I remember talking about it at the

1710
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 2: time because just the way ESPN works, it always feels like,

1711
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 2: you know, they're throwing a Scott van Pelt or they're

1712
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 2: doing whatever, and it's just like what made inside the

1713
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: NBA so great on Turner on TNT was that they

1714
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 2: throwed a studio and they just talked till they don't

1715
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,600
Speaker 2: have anything else to say anymore. And we knew that

1716
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be the case of ESPN. But I think

1717
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 2: what's even worse is exactly what you said is the

1718
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: lack of consistency with when they're on, how long they're on.

1719
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: And I think obviously just right now it's just there

1720
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: on again. They were on Saturday night after you know,

1721
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 2: ESPN had a doubleheader including the Lakers traveling to Dallas

1722
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 2: Luca another return. But as Charles Barkley said in that

1723
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 2: clip that we just played a few minutes ago, it

1724
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: was their first appearance in the month of January after

1725
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 2: one appearance in the month of December. So you do

1726
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: the math. Two appearances in essentially sixty days. I mean,

1727
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: that's just an easy way to be out of sight,

1728
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 2: out of mind. And not only do I understand Barkley's frustration,

1729
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 2: but it's what you said, J mart Is. I do

1730
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 2: think it has hurt the NBA, and I'll take it

1731
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: even a step further. I just think listen, and this

1732
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: is an overarching theme for sports in general, I understand, yeah,

1733
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 2: you know where I'm going with this. I understand the

1734
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,719
Speaker 2: notion of you know, you gotta you know, you gotta

1735
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 2: get every dollar that you can out of out of

1736
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 2: the TV contracts and all that, but it does feel

1737
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 2: like to me the NBA maybe more than any other sport.

1738
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 2: I don't even know when the games are on anymore

1739
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: and where they're on now. On a positive, sometimes I'll

1740
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: be flipping channels that I just happen to find a

1741
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 2: game on a city.

1742
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the count.

1743
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 4: I'll tell you two quick side stories.

1744
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 2: So one literally, it must have been Wednesday or Thursday night,

1745
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 2: the wife and I were looking for something to watch,

1746
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 2: you know, on one of the apps, and we put

1747
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 2: on Amazon Prime and the the Clippers Lakers game was on,

1748
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: and we were like, is this live?

1749
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 4: Is this not live? Like we had no idea. So

1750
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 4: there's that. And then also what I would say to

1751
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 4: that is like the you know.

1752
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 2: Friday night, you know, every once in a while, there's

1753
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 2: nothing to do, there's nothing on. And I'm not saying

1754
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm a religious NBA fan, but you know, Friday nights

1755
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 2: sometimes you just be like, oh, there's two NBA games

1756
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 2: on ESPN. Now I don't know where to find them,

1757
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 2: and so I think the inside the NBA story is

1758
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 2: fascinating in its own right, But to take it a

1759
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 2: step further, I think what makes it even more interesting

1760
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 2: is the idea of I don't even know where the

1761
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 2: games are and when they're on, and you know, I

1762
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe Disager has seen something over the last

1763
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: couple weeks to reflect if ratings are up or down

1764
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 2: or if we even know at this point compared to

1765
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 2: last year. I think it's really hurt consumption of the

1766
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 2: NBA where I don't even know where the games are,

1767
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 2: and I just think Inside the NBA is kind of

1768
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 2: a byproduct to that.

1769
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, and we you know, we've talked about this,

1770
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,600
Speaker 3: as have many other shows. But when you see the

1771
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,759
Speaker 3: estimates on you know what it costs now to watch

1772
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 3: the NBA if you want to watch that product, how

1773
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 3: many streaming services you need, and then you maximize that

1774
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 3: by the length of the season, So you're paying X

1775
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 3: amount of dollars for this service and then that service,

1776
01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 3: and all of this. You just don't get what you

1777
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 3: used to get. And it's not simple to your point,

1778
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 3: it's more complicated, which is of course, you know that

1779
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 3: is sort of technology. It's kind of taking some people

1780
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 3: out of it that aren't as technology technologically inclined, or

1781
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 3: certainly ones that don't want to spend on a bunch

1782
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 3: of different streaming services. But I do think that's it.

1783
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 3: Like I'll flip on a service and oh, there's an

1784
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 3: NBA game on it had no real idea that that's

1785
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 3: where it was going to be found or whatever like that.

1786
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 3: You contrast that to some of the more niche sports

1787
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 3: and things like that, where at the very least I

1788
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 3: know now because of Apple my f one TV subscription,

1789
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 3: I can't get it anymore in the US, But Apple

1790
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 3: has everything. It's going to have f one TV built

1791
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 3: into your Apple TV subscription, and so I know where

1792
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to get my f one content. When it

1793
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 3: comes to the NBA, it's like, is it Peacock, is

1794
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 3: it Amazon Prime? Is it the ESPN app? Is it

1795
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 3: NBA TV for this particular game? Is it a regional

1796
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 3: sports network?

1797
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Like?

1798
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:05,839
Speaker 3: Where exactly is it? And these are these are things

1799
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,919
Speaker 3: that should not be questions. Like anything that's a barrier

1800
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 3: to a consumer finding a product is another chance for

1801
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 3: that consumer to say, you know what screw it. I'm

1802
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 3: going to do something else. And that is the death

1803
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 3: now for any product, Making it complicated, making it sort

1804
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 3: of convoluted. And that's what the NBA feels like. Not

1805
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 3: the product, but just to be able to consume, to

1806
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 3: enjoy the product is just not a It's not as

1807
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,759
Speaker 3: simple as it used to be. It's hard to explain

1808
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 3: to somebody who's a new fans, like, all right, let

1809
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 3: me give you this, let me give you this one sheet.

1810
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 3: Let me give you this sheet that explains to you

1811
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 3: kind of where you can find these games now for

1812
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 3: any night. It could be on any one of these services,

1813
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 3: so you may have to click through four or five

1814
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 3: of them to find it, or of course you go online,

1815
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 3: and of course you can get that information there. But

1816
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 3: how many people are doing that? Yep? I just it

1817
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 3: just feels needlessly complex when that league needs to be

1818
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 3: doing everything it can to basically be rolling out the

1819
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 3: red carpet for people to come find that league.

1820
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 4: No doubt about it.

1821
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 2: By the way, Jason, who's listening to us, says, I

1822
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:21,559
Speaker 2: could not agree with Jamark Moore. Haven't watched as much

1823
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 2: NBA until today. Great program that has been ruined by

1824
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse, Aaron Underscore, Torres and Disagre. I did kind

1825
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 2: of reference the idea of you're great with the numbers

1826
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 2: and the details on it.

1827
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 8: I just saw it today. Actually, it's funny bring it up.

1828
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 2: And I was reading your mind. So what have we found?

1829
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:40,679
Speaker 2: Has there been any go ahead?

1830
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 8: It's actually up the NBA ratings so far. Keep in

1831
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,799
Speaker 8: mind the caveat that during football season, the NBA ratings

1832
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 8: are microscopic compared to football. But exactly what Jason was

1833
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 8: just talking about. They go for the money to such

1834
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:58,160
Speaker 8: an extent that they'll sign a contract with any streaming

1835
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 8: over the air or cable service just to get yet

1836
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 8: another revenue stream and Baseball has been doing the same things.

1837
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 8: The good thing is when Baseball just announced its schedule

1838
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 8: for the coming season, it's a very consistent Fox Saturday

1839
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:15,719
Speaker 8: Night game, FS one Saturday Day game, and FS one's

1840
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 8: gonna have a lot of Monday night games. Aside from that,

1841
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 8: there's gonna be some what three games on ABC and

1842
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 8: then throw the I mean, it's just it's all over

1843
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 8: the map like NBA. But anyway, NBA games, which have

1844
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 8: what five different places you can find them so far

1845
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 8: this year it's up almost twenty percent from this point

1846
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 8: last year, but it's still only one point nine million viewers.

1847
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 8: And I would add that when the NBA was touting, hey,

1848
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 8: we got about two million average for our Martin Luther

1849
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 8: King Day games, we could go, well, those were on

1850
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 8: NBC and not TNT. Now, so you're on a regular

1851
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 8: channel and still only averaging about two million.

1852
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna say.

1853
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it is on the main you know, TV,

1854
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 2: the broadcast network. I mean I saw stat I think

1855
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 2: it might been maybe the Indiana game, the Indiana Miami game,

1856
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 2: that like eighty percent of people who watched the game

1857
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 2: watched it on ABC as opposed to ESPN, And maybe

1858
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 2: that was just the default. It might not have been

1859
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 2: that it.

1860
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 8: Was right, which means ESPN should not have been touting

1861
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 8: that football audience of ours was the biggest thing. We know,

1862
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 8: they're not talking about your channel, They're talking about ABC,

1863
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 8: a regular channel that every household has on its television.

1864
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it might not have been that game, but

1865
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 2: the broader point was people are still going to network TV.

1866
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 2: So the fact that we now events, yes, yeah, so

1867
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 2: the fact that we now have more games in theory

1868
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 2: on Network TV with the NBC games, would to me

1869
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 2: explain why the ratings are up. I'm not trying to

1870
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 2: dismiss it. I just again, I don't want to sound like, oh, man,

1871
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 2: get off my lawn. I you know, and maybe it's

1872
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 2: just going to take a year or two. And I'm

1873
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 2: not trying to be like overly critical for the sake

1874
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,719
Speaker 2: of being overly critical. But like I said, my brain

1875
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:58,839
Speaker 2: just always knew Wednesday Night ESPN, Thursday Night, TNT, Friday

1876
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 2: Night ESPN, Saturday ABC, and now it's just I don't know.

1877
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 2: I'm literally I'm not even kidding. I turned on Amazon

1878
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 2: the other night and I had no idea if the

1879
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 2: game was live or not. It was just the first

1880
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 2: thing that popped up on the home age and I

1881
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 2: was like, oh, yeah, the Lakers and Clippers are playing.

1882
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 8: I did not realize that was on Amazon. But the

1883
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 8: good thing is once I went to it, you can

1884
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 8: start from the beginning. Sure, even if you hadn't taped it,

1885
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 8: so to speak. It's unlike a channel. But I will

1886
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 8: say again, context apples to apples. When one of these

1887
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 8: NBA games on the holiday, Hey, NBC got one point

1888
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 8: eight million viewers. If you get eighteen million for an

1889
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 8: NFL Sunday. That's not good. So let's compare who's really

1890
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 8: king on television.

1891
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 4: I'd love to know how many like Packed.

1892
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 2: We don't have PAC twelve after Dark anymore, but I

1893
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 2: was gonna say, like ten PM Eastern college football games outrated.

1894
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 8: You watch on this show. Come September, we're gonna get

1895
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 8: what Boise State, Utah State, and you're Packed twelve after Dark?

1896
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 2: You go Pack Twelve's back, baby, all right, Well to Sega,

1897
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:01,799
Speaker 2: we appreciate that. And yeah, so Charles Barkley not happy

1898
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,600
Speaker 2: with the state of inside the NBA. The good news is,

1899
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 2: as he said, they were on this Saturday, they will

1900
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 2: be on later this week and hopefully it ramps up

1901
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 2: as we get deeper into the season, because I agree

1902
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 2: with you, j mart does feel like just feels like

1903
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 2: they've been kind of out of sight, out of mind,

1904
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 2: and that is not what you want for the best

1905
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,799
Speaker 2: pre and postgame show in all of sports. Fox Sports

1906
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 2: Radio where towards Jason Martin will come back when we

1907
01:38:25,439 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 2: do ton to make some picks on the two games

1908
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 2: coming on Sunday Broncos Patriots, Seahawks Rams. We'll preview him

1909
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 2: next Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

1910
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 2: Is that like a remix of Who Let the Dogs Out?

1911
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 4: Or what was that?

1912
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,839
Speaker 3: It'd been caught stealing? Man, it's Jane's addiction.

1913
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry, I don't know music. Is that like

1914
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 4: a famous song? I'm sorry?

1915
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, pretty famous? Yeah?

1916
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,879
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what else is famous?

1917
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:00,639
Speaker 3: Dude wipes.

1918
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 2: Have you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet

1919
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 2: paper and thought to yourself? Is this as good as

1920
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 2: it gets every day? Well it's not, Jmar. Switch to

1921
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:14,920
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1922
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:20,679
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1923
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 2: Dude wipes best clean pants down. All right, let's switch

1924
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: gears quickly and aggressively. Two NFL games left, well, two

1925
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 2: games Sunday, three games total, two games to determine who

1926
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 2: plays in the Super Bowl a couple weeks from now

1927
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 2: in Santa Clara, Girius. Give us some music in go

1928
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 2: ahead and start us first game in Denver, Flores.

1929
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 12: Yours, sir, no easy way to transition from dude wipes

1930
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 12: to pick an NFL playoff games, but we will do

1931
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 12: our best play if.

1932
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 4: That anyone can do it, the three of us can't.

1933
01:39:57,960 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 4: That's right, all right?

1934
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 12: So three pm Eastern time, got the Patriots going to

1935
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 12: Denver to take on the Broncos. That's the AFC Championship game.

1936
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 12: New England is favored by three and a half in

1937
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 12: that one. On the road, We'll start with you, J Mard.

1938
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:11,879
Speaker 4: Who you got.

1939
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 3: Broncos of My team have been since I was a kid.

1940
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 3: Never gonna change, No Bo Nicks. That feels like a

1941
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 3: problem running the football. That's gonna put more on Harvey

1942
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 3: and company to run the ball better. Guy's gonna have

1943
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 3: to make catches. We saw a couple drops. One thing

1944
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 3: is if Stidham can get the ball out, hopefully they're

1945
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 3: going to remember that Courtland Sutton is a player on

1946
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 3: that team before the fourth quarter. They also have a

1947
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 3: couple of wide receivers they are gonna be out due

1948
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 3: to concussion. On the other side, mc collins has been activated,

1949
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 3: so he's gonna play tomorrow for New England. Drake May

1950
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 3: is he ready for this moment on the road with

1951
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 3: a chance to go to the Super Bowl on the line, Man,

1952
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 3: I'm halfway torn. I'm gonna take New England just because

1953
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 3: I don't how can you feel good about the backup

1954
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 3: quarterback situation? But I am leaving the door open to

1955
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 3: be wrong on this one, specifically because Denver's defense and

1956
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 3: what vance Joseph and company are gonna try and put

1957
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 3: out there to confuse Drake may or to force him

1958
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 3: into some situations where he lets the ball go when

1959
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 3: maybe he shouldn't. It's gonna take one of those kind

1960
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 3: of days. The defense is capable of that. I just

1961
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 3: think they're gonna pick on Riley Moss and that'll probably

1962
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 3: be enough for Vabel. I also feel like Stevenson and

1963
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 3: Henderson might be able to run a little bit on

1964
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 3: this team based on what we saw from James Cook

1965
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 3: a week ago. Hopefully you won't see the fumble if

1966
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 3: you are a New England fan, but I will take

1967
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 3: the Patriots to win and cover, probably to win this

1968
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:57,559
Speaker 3: game by ten. Wow.

1969
01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this real quick before I make

1970
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 2: my pick. You know, sometimes we say, when there's a

1971
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 2: good offense or whatever, maybe even a good defense, you

1972
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 2: need to score this many points to win.

1973
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you the opposite.

1974
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 2: How few points does the Denver defense have to hold

1975
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 2: New England for them to have a realistic shot to

1976
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 2: win this game. Fourteen Max, That's what I was thinking too.

1977
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 2: That's the number that I had in my head.

1978
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 3: Like I just I don't see and look again, you

1979
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 3: never know until you see it play out. But my

1980
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 3: head tells me if New England gets seventeen, that's probably

1981
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 3: gonna be enough to win the game.

1982
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 2: So before before we switch to the other game, I'll

1983
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,639
Speaker 2: give my pick, you know. So, I'm actually really torn

1984
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 2: on this as well. It just we've all watched sports.

1985
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 2: It just feels a little too on the nose to

1986
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 2: just hand things over to the to the New England

1987
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 2: Patriots game is in Denver. Obviously, Drake May's first career

1988
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 2: old playoffs start, it is worth noting he's been a

1989
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:08,759
Speaker 2: little turnover prone this season. Specifically, I saw this stat

1990
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 2: kind of.

1991
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:09,719
Speaker 3: Blew me away.

1992
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: He has had eleven stripsack fumbles this year. Now the

1993
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 2: Patriots have recovered six of them, but that stood out

1994
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:24,320
Speaker 2: to me against this defense that they're gonna face, obviously,

1995
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 2: such good pressure off the edge, Denver leading the league

1996
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 2: in sacks.

1997
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 4: It's just so hard if Jamar.

1998
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 2: The crazy part is if it was even like a

1999
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 2: normal backup quarterback and when I mean normal, I mean,

2000
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 2: like a dude who, like if it was Tyler Huntley,

2001
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:43,719
Speaker 2: who I don't even know if he's in the league.

2002
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:46,799
Speaker 2: Like Jared Didham hasn't thrown a pass in two years.

2003
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 2: He took one snap this year and it.

2004
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 4: Was a you know, to take a lead to end

2005
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 4: a game.

2006
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 2: Like It's just so hard for me, as good as

2007
01:43:57,080 --> 01:44:01,679
Speaker 2: the defense is at home at out to dude, it's

2008
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: just hard for me to see them doing what they

2009
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 2: need to do on offense to win this game. I've

2010
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 2: really wanted to go with Denver, but I am going

2011
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 2: to take the Patriots. I'll say twenty one to ten.

2012
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 2: I just think there's only so much that that team

2013
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 2: can do with not only a backup quarterback, but a

2014
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 2: backup quarterback that just frankly just doesn't have a lot

2015
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 2: of snaps under his belt the last few years.

2016
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm whether you say you're going by eleven,

2017
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 3: I'm going by about ten. So we're right in the

2018
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 3: same ballpark, I guess. Yeah. I mean your point about

2019
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 3: the regular backup quarterbacks certainly true as well. I just

2020
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a really difficult road to hell.

2021
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:44,719
Speaker 3: I will say this, hopefully he's been practicing hard against

2022
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 3: that vaunted defense, and they've been giving him everything possible

2023
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 3: to really kind of provide him sort of baptism by

2024
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 3: fire before you get to the moment. You can't simulate

2025
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 3: game speed and practice. You can't simulate everything that variable

2026
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,559
Speaker 3: in that defense are going to bring to him. But

2027
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 3: at the very least he does have guys on his

2028
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 3: own team that can challenge him and maybe help bring

2029
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 3: his level up a little bit.

2030
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good point. Practicing gets that defense every

2031
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:14,639
Speaker 2: day maybe has helped him. Leading into Sunday, we both

2032
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 2: have the New England Patriots winning. Probably not much of

2033
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 2: a surprise, all.

2034
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 12: Right, NFC Championship guys, six point thirty Eastern time on Fox.

2035
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,759
Speaker 12: Rams are going to Seattle. You guys previewed it earlier

2036
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 12: with Softy. I'm going to Seattle. Seattle is favored by

2037
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 12: two and a half points.

2038
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 3: Here.

2039
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 4: Who you got, Jamrt, We'll start with you.

2040
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 7: Hmm.

2041
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 3: So I don't know if I dare go against Softy,

2042
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 3: especially in that fire he was. I like, the Rams

2043
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 3: have done this a couple of times on the road,

2044
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,640
Speaker 3: and you believe in Stafford. If it comes down to

2045
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 3: one drive, you feel like he can probably make it happen.

2046
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 3: It just kind of feels like the Seahawks to me.

2047
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 3: I think Seattle at home, the way JSN has been

2048
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 3: playing and the way that they can run the football

2049
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 3: walker has never looked better.

2050
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 7: Now.

2051
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 3: They don't have Sharponnay to back them up right now,

2052
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 3: but I just that defense for Seattle. I think it's

2053
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 3: going to make life very difficult on the Rams. I

2054
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 3: don't think Kien Williams is going to be able to

2055
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 3: do much of his damage, and I think it's going

2056
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 3: to come down to Puka, and I mean, how many

2057
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 3: passes can one man catch? I agree, by the way

2058
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,839
Speaker 3: with Softy saying he's a little worried about Devonte Adams.

2059
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 3: I just I continue to underestimate the Seahawks and they

2060
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 3: continue to make me look stupid. So I'm at the

2061
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 3: very least going to pick them in this game and

2062
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 3: give them the opportunity because I've kind of undercut it

2063
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 3: a little bit. I feel like the Darnold narrative has

2064
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 3: been overplayed to some degree. So I will take the

2065
01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 3: Seahawks by a field goal in which should be a

2066
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 3: good game. Yeah.

2067
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 2: So the only thing that does concern me, which is

2068
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 2: maybe pretty obvious, Like we're all just glossing over this

2069
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 2: apparent oblique injury that Sam Darnald has, and it's like, again,

2070
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 2: you know.

2071
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 4: What, what if he actually is.

2072
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 2: Hurt and we just didn't have to see it against

2073
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:24,639
Speaker 2: San Francisco last week because it was such a blowout.

2074
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 2: That's the only That's the biggest thing that concerns me.

2075
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: The other thing I would say is this is one

2076
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 2: I'm with you. It kind of feels like the Seahawks year.

2077
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 2: Sam Donald was awesome all season long. He clicked with JSN.

2078
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 2: To Softy's point earlier, you couldn't have asked for anything

2079
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 2: better than what you got out of a free agent

2080
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 2: quarterback with Sam Darnald. As a matter of fact, now

2081
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm thinking next week, would it would be fun to

2082
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 2: revisit some of our preseason over underpicks because I know

2083
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 2: I had Seattle going way under. Uh, so that would

2084
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 2: be fun to do next week. But I bring it

2085
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:03,639
Speaker 2: up because to me, I do like Seattle at home.

2086
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Softy laid out everything about the history first time they're

2087
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 2: hosting an NFC championship game, and I believe he said

2088
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 2: eleven years. The other thing, too, is the Rams surviving

2089
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:17,680
Speaker 2: two games now, admittedly both were on the road, but

2090
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 2: easily could have lost that Carolina game, easily could have

2091
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 2: lost the Bears game. Now, they easily could have won

2092
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 2: the Bears game in regulation. Obviously Caleb Williams with the

2093
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,560
Speaker 2: miracle at the end, But I am gonna go Seattle.

2094
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 2: I'll say twenty four to seventeen. They just feel like

2095
01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 2: the better team, the more complete team. The Rams have

2096
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 2: been kind of, you know, good but not great all year.

2097
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 2: And you know, again, lucky is not the right word,

2098
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 2: but easily could have lost each of the.

2099
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 4: First two playoff gas.

2100
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 3: Fortunate, Yes, that's the right word. Better word that should

2101
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 3: be a well of a game though, two teams that

2102
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 3: know each other pretty well, probably a razor thin margin.

2103
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 3: The team that makes the fewest mistakes is probably gonna win.

2104
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 3: And so again, think it all comes down to if

2105
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 3: Darnold comes out there and throws two picks in the

2106
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 3: first half, they're gonna lose. As long as he is

2107
01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 3: careful with the football. However, as he's been throughout much

2108
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 3: of this season. I still I still think overall, I

2109
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 3: like their guys better than I like the Rams guys.

2110
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 3: In terms of the guys that are gonna be on

2111
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,639
Speaker 3: the field. H McVeigh is gonna have to have one

2112
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 3: of those games from a play calling perspective to to

2113
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 3: get that win.

2114
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 2: We both have New England over the Broncos. We both

2115
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 2: have Seattle over the Uh over the Rams, both favorites.

2116
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:40,640
Speaker 2: Probably not a surprise, but uh, you know that's what

2117
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,759
Speaker 2: we got. Seattles rematch.

2118
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 3: But Wilson Tom Brady this.

2119
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 2: Time, say no Marshawn Lynch thinking no Malcolm Butler, Yeah, no,

2120
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:49,799
Speaker 2: no Malcolm Butler.

2121
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 4: In the first game either that was part of the problem.

2122
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, Fox Sports Radio or towards Jason

2123
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 2: Martin final time this evening, let's get it over to

2124
01:49:58,040 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 2: the news desk to Sega what.

2125
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 8: Is and a stat for each side. Seattle has won

2126
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 8: eleven home playoff games in a row when fans are there.

2127
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 8: They lost a twenty twenty Wildcard game, but in twenty

2128
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 8: twenty there were no fans in the stadium. And you

2129
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 8: referenced also Matthew Stafford late games. After the overtime win

2130
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 8: at Chicago last weekend, the veteran quarterback now has fifty

2131
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 8: five career game winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime.

2132
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:28,920
Speaker 8: Fifty five, easily the most in the league since he

2133
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 8: became a probe.

2134
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:32,599
Speaker 2: Footing all three the year they won the Super Bowl, right,

2135
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 2: maybe even four?

2136
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, with Cooper Cups touchdown from Stafford.

2137
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 4: In the day they came back.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, they had blown a lead in that one, yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 8: and playing in the weather so well this year, And frankly,

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Speaker 8: they were the only team that played the Eagles well

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Speaker 8: in the postseason a year ago, and that was in

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Speaker 8: the snow. So there's a lot to like there, And

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Speaker 8: I think I would pick automatically Seattle with that great defense.

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01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 8: Look at what the rams Are defense did going up

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Speaker 8: and down the field against.

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Speaker 4: Them a month ago.

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Speaker 8: That part was a shocker as shocking as the Seattle

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Speaker 8: comeback was. And that was especially shocking because it wasn't

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Speaker 8: just three late touchdowns including overtime for the Seahawks. It

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Speaker 8: was three two point conversions. The Seahawks today elevated running

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Speaker 8: backs Cam Akers and Vilas Jones. Running back Zach Sharbone

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Speaker 8: is on ir Seattle host the Rams in the NFC

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01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:26,839
Speaker 8: title Game tomorrow. Denver quarterback Bo Nicks was officially placed

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01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 8: on injured reserve. The Patriots activated wide receiver Mac Hollins.

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01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 8: The Broncos host New England Sunday in the AFC Championship Game.

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01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 8: Former Steelers assistant Arthur Smith is due to be Ohio

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01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,480
Speaker 8: State's new offensive coordinator. The new head coach for Pittsburgh

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Speaker 8: a Pittsburgh native, Mike McCarthy, and the Dolphins are promoting

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Speaker 8: Bobby Slowick to offensive coordinator. The Cleveland Guardians are reportedly

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Speaker 8: giving all star third baseman Jose Ramirez an extension through

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Speaker 8: twenty thirty two. The Mets invited reliever Craig Kimberl to

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01:51:56,360 --> 01:52:00,320
Speaker 8: spring training. With the time difference plenty of Australian Open

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Speaker 8: Tennis action going out, Cocoa Gough has split the first

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Speaker 8: two sets of her fourth round match against Carolina Mohova,

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Speaker 8: GoF up two to one in the third. Men's number

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Speaker 8: one Carlos Alcarez won his fourth rounder at the Aussie Open.

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Speaker 8: US women's soccer in La won its exhibition six nothing

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Speaker 8: against Paraguay. Scottie Scheffler's one stroke back in Southern California

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Speaker 8: after a third round sixty eight Seawoo kim leeds in

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Speaker 8: the NHL Columbus eight to five over Tampa Bay, Florida

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Speaker 8: one in overtime for to three at Minnesota. The Florida

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01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,840
Speaker 8: Gators in college hoops ranked sixteenth, lost at home to

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Speaker 8: Auburn seventy six sixty seven, Auburn's first winning Gainesville in

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Speaker 8: thirty years. Wins for Gonzaga and BYU Tennessee won at Alabama,

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Speaker 8: victories for Texas in Arkansas. North Carolina won at Virginia

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01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:49,719
Speaker 8: eighty five eighty twelfth ranked Texas Tech edge number six

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Speaker 8: Houston ninety to eighty six despite forty two points in

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Speaker 8: defeat from Houston freshman Kingston Flemings. We mentioned last hour

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Speaker 8: how the BYU freshman aj De Bonsa had forty three

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Speaker 8: in his team win and Illinois as a freshman Keaton

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01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 8: Wagler forty six points today and a victory at Purdue

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Speaker 8: eighty eight eighty two Number two Connecticut one in overtime

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01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:12,480
Speaker 8: against Philanova in the NBA Golden State at Minnesota postponed

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Speaker 8: to Sunday. Miami and Cleveland each one. Charlotte as well.

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Speaker 8: New York won at Philadelphia today one twelve, one oh

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Speaker 8: nine despite thirty eight points from Joel Embiid. Chicago on

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01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 8: a last second three beat Boston one fourteen one eleven

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01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 8: and the Lakers got thirty three points from Luca don

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Speaker 8: Sich in a win at Dallas won sixteen one ten.

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Speaker 8: The Mas had one four straight pick to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve the Sega have a great evening.

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Speaker 2: You'd be back tomorrow with the fellas. Arnie Spanier, who

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01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 2: will be back. He was just in with Martin Weiss

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01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 2: alongside Chris Plank in the late window and of course

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Speaker 2: eat from Salam and Mark Willard will come back. One

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Speaker 2: segment left wrap the show erin towards Jason Martin, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio erin tors

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Ready where we get your podcasts,

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Speaker 2: off air. I'll be honest, Jaybart, we covered a lot

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Speaker 2: of ground inside the NBA.

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Speaker 4: Previewing the games.

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Speaker 2: Indiana College Football Dave Softy Mallor from CE joined us

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Speaker 2: to preview the games.

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Speaker 4: A lot of ground covered. What did we miss? H

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Speaker 4: we got?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:11,919
Speaker 2: We got three NFL coaching jobs still open Arizona Cleveland Raiders.

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01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 3: Did we did we bury the Bills owner yet? Because

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01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 3: we need to.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what in if it's not too late.

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01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 2: We have some Darry Terry Pegoula sound whatever.

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01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 3: You don't even have to get his name right.

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01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he knows.

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01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman's name was Shuck throw throw his former second

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01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 2: round pick under the bus. We are efforting some Terry

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01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 2: Pegoula sound. I apologize. Guys in the back heres and

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01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 2: Ian are crushing it all night long. A little bit

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01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 2: of a curveball, but uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Today either way, even if we don't have the audio,

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01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 3: just I mean, had I sent you a message? You

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01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 3: and Ian the message when I saw it, I just

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01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 3: didn't realize the Bill's owner was that dumb, Like I

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01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 3: had no idea what an idiot he was until I

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Speaker 3: heard him try to explain the Sean McDermott firing, like

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Speaker 3: the way, like you couldn't possibly have done more damage

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01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 3: to just the franchise than he did by opening his mouth,

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01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 3: Like don't don't say anything, just stay completely quiet, because

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01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 3: his excuses didn't make any sense. He buried a player

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01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 3: that's actively on the roster.

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Speaker 4: Right quick, we have that sound.

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01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:27,720
Speaker 2: Okay, let's listen to the Bills owner Terry Pikula. Terry Pigoula.

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01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 2: I've said his name seven different ways, really quickly. I

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01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:33,120
Speaker 2: want to set up this sound. So obviously, there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of talk about why the Bills haven't reached

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Speaker 2: their potential. They were asked about Kean Coleman, a former

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01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 2: high second round pick who hasn't really panned out. Here

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01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 2: is Terry Pigoola explaining what has gone wrong with Kean Coleman, who,

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Speaker 2: by the way, is still on the roster. Kiras played

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Speaker 2: the sound.

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Speaker 4: The coaching staff pushed to draft Kean.

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01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Brandon wouldn't have drafted him, but he

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01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:58,839
Speaker 2: wasn't his next choice.

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01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 3: He's taken for some reason.

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01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 4: Heat over it and not saying a word about it.

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01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 2: That was Terry Pagoula talking about a player that is

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01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 2: still very much odd in the Phills roster and a

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01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 2: player that you're probably whoever's the new head coach gonna

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01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 2: need to contribute next year. It was just one of

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01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 2: many j Martin to your point, there was plenty more

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01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,280
Speaker 2: that came out of that sound bite. But I know,

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01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 2: I guess he was trying to protect Brandan being the GM.

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01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 2: But that was a weird thing to say. They're in

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Speaker 2: a live press conference.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he buried he buried keyon Coleman. He basically

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01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 3: was like, no, that was Sean McDermott and the coaches

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01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 3: that wanted him. It wasn't. It wasn't the GM that

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01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 3: I just decided to promote to the team president. He's

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01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:42,360
Speaker 3: not responsible for that awful pick. And he tried to

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01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 3: like clean it up by saying not that he wouldn't

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01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 3: have taken him, but he wasn't the next guy on

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01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 3: his list, Like okay, man, like just stop talking, please,

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01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 3: please stop talking. And then the reasonings for Sean McDermott's firing,

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Speaker 3: And we said this last week after it happened. I

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01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 3: said he still should be fired, but not because of

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01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 3: anything he did in that game, because of things in

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01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:13,320
Speaker 3: the past. But even going back there, he was like,

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01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 3: there was a missfield goal here, there was thirteen seconds here,

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01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 3: there was all these things, like, dude, there's a lot

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01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 3: Like everything that he listed was a bunch of fluke

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01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 3: things that the coach couldn't have done anything about. Like

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01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 3: it was amazing to me say, if you you could

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01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 3: not have made a worse argument if you had tried,

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01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:34,760
Speaker 3: Like I came out of him his comments, thinking that

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01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott shouldn't have been fired because it was so bad,

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01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 3: Like what he said was so poorly just every bit

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01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 3: of it was just terrible. It's like I just didn't

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01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 3: realize that the Bill's ownership was like this. I immediately was

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01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:51,960
Speaker 3: just thinking, man, if I'm Josh Allen to asking for

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01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:54,280
Speaker 3: a trade, like as soon as possible, get me out

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01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 3: of here, because I thought they were a well run organization.

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01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:01,840
Speaker 3: I may have been wrong, Aaron, because I don't understand

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01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 3: what has taken place. Did the Broncos lost just break

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01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 3: this franchise. You got Josh Allen weeping, You got Sean

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01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 3: McDermott fired after cursing the night before, saying he was

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01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 3: standing up for the team like he knew he was

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Speaker 3: about to lose his job. And then you've got the

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01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 3: owner giving the single most bone headed interview I've heard

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01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 3: an owner give. I'm trying to think of another one that.

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01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 3: I mean. We mocked Woody Johnson for going after Justin

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01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 3: Fields earlier this year, and that was bad. I think

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01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 3: this was worse. I think this just indicated a level

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01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 3: of incompetence, that it was Keystone cop stuff. This was

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01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 3: absolutely horrendous. It was bad.

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Speaker 2: It was bad, by the way, Terry Pagoula's first public

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01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 2: press conference in six years. He looked the part, So, yeah,

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01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 2: it was really bad, by the way. Putting a funny

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01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 2: bow on another story, we talked about Arthur Smith, the

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Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator of the Ohio State Buckeyes. A Michigan

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Speaker 2: writer tweeted, quote, his dad is the founder of FedEx

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02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 2: and is worth ten billion. This low key is the

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Speaker 2: best nil funding move we've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, that's a really interesting point. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's why Riot Day did it,

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Speaker 2: but I'll tell you what we gotta get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank the crew, Kirius on the board,

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Speaker 2: Ian producing, Steve de Saga from my partner Jason Martin.

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Speaker 2: I'm are Torres. Make sure to download the podcast. Also

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