Speaker 1: You're listening to Math and Magic, a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: I think it comes down to truth.
Speaker 3: No matter what we're collectively marketing and or the dirty
Speaker 3: word it's selling, it has to be based in truth
Speaker 3: because even if you pull the wool over someone's eyes once,
Speaker 3: it's not going to resonate the second time.
Speaker 4: I'm Bob Pittman.
Speaker 5: Today is a special episode of Math and Magic, and
Speaker 5: it might sound a little different, not only because our
Speaker 5: guest is one of the biggest rock stars on the planet,
Speaker 5: but because we recorded live on stage at the Possible
Speaker 5: Conference at the Fountain Blue in Miami. And I hope
Speaker 5: you enjoyed my conversation exploring math and magic, which I
Speaker 5: bon Jovi. Today we have a guest who is a
Speaker 5: magician in many obvious ways, which we'll explore today. But
Speaker 5: the math's pretty good too. You've sold one hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty million albums worldwide. He's played twenty eight hundred concerts
Speaker 5: and fifty for thirty.
Speaker 4: Five million fans.
Speaker 5: He had three top ranking tours in six years, matching
Speaker 5: a record held by only the Rolling Stones. He is
Speaker 5: also a successful business person. He and his son started
Speaker 5: the wildly successful Hampton Water Wine company. He's a generous
Speaker 5: and impactful philanthropist. He's an actor, he has strong political
Speaker 5: convictions which make their way into his music. And he's
Speaker 5: a well known family man, great marriage and role model
Speaker 5: for how to do it the right way. But what's
Speaker 5: also interesting is he started his ride at about the
Speaker 5: same time we started MTV, so we were sort of
Speaker 5: locked through this thing.
Speaker 4: And you know, when people start, especially in the music.
Speaker 5: Business, you never know who's going to be there thirty
Speaker 5: years from now, and very few are.
Speaker 4: So we got the guy who is here, John bon Jovi.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you, Mom, thank you. I'm happy
Speaker 2: to be here. Good morning.
Speaker 4: We got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 5: But first I want to do do you in sixty seconds.
Speaker 5: What we're going to do is we're going to lightning
Speaker 5: round style. Give you a couple of choices.
Speaker 2: Lay down right like you're ready to go. Ready to go.
Speaker 4: Prefer cats or dogs, dogs, early.
Speaker 5: Riser, night out, morning guy city or country city, winter
Speaker 5: or summer.
Speaker 2: Summer, salt, your sweet torn.
Speaker 5: Beach, your mountains, beach, off of your tea coffee text
Speaker 5: dark call depends.
Speaker 4: Garden State or Madison Square Garden Garden State.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 4: Here's the Jersey folks, It's about to get harder. All
Speaker 4: time favorite musical artist The Beatles. Childhood hero.
Speaker 2: Bruce had a lot to do with my being here today.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 5: Technology, you can't live without my teenage kids, favorite country
Speaker 5: to visit.
Speaker 4: The final one, What did you want to be when
Speaker 4: you're growing up?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 4: And it happens only in America? So let's jump in.
Speaker 5: You are one of the best and most enduring brands
Speaker 5: in music? How do you stay connected with this audience
Speaker 5: for forty years?
Speaker 3: Nothing would have happened if you didn't have a song.
Speaker 3: So the brand had to be built on a solid foundation,
Speaker 3: which was the song and being true to who and
Speaker 3: what I was.
Speaker 2: In order for the collective we to.
Speaker 3: Then be true to who we were, and so that
Speaker 3: is the basis of all of it. Not to chase
Speaker 3: fads and fascions was also really important to me. Fads
Speaker 3: and fashions come and go, and the truth will always prevail.
Speaker 4: Were you ever tempted with any of the fads or fashions.
Speaker 2: Not really to be? I don't think well, I don't
Speaker 2: think so.
Speaker 3: I may have been a byproduct of the closure wore
Speaker 3: in the a or the haircut you hadn't it. But
Speaker 3: that's who and what you were in real time. And
Speaker 3: if the next fat in fashion came along, ie in
Speaker 3: our business, boy bands and then grunge music and then wrap,
Speaker 3: you know, we were there at the advent of rap,
Speaker 3: and to start doing duets would not have seemed honest,
Speaker 3: you know, to certainly be with a boy band and
Speaker 3: or none of that would have rang true. So I
Speaker 3: was smart enough to know not to get a flannel shirt.
Speaker 3: When Seattle became popular, it was just stay the quarters.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about intergenerational hits, and these are marketers here,
Speaker 5: so they're looking for things that are enduring. My friend's daughter,
Speaker 5: it is twenty two. She was in a college bar,
Speaker 5: living on a prayer comes on. The kids all start
Speaker 5: dancing on the tables. They weren't even born when the
Speaker 5: song came out. What is it about your music that
Speaker 5: connects was such a young generation, even though it was
Speaker 5: made originally for a completely different generation.
Speaker 2: Again, I think it comes down to truth.
Speaker 3: No matter what we're collectively marketing and or you know
Speaker 3: the dirty words selling, it.
Speaker 2: Has to be based in truth.
Speaker 3: Because even if you pull the wool over someone's eyes once,
Speaker 3: it's not going to resonate the second time. So when
Speaker 3: we wrote a song, if I was doing it from
Speaker 3: a place of honesty, that song resonated with me, and
Speaker 3: therefore I was confident it would probably.
Speaker 2: Resonate with that audience.
Speaker 3: Songs like Living on a Prayer, when we wrote them
Speaker 3: to be bluntly honest, I didn't realize what we had,
Speaker 3: but I felt that the character driven storyline was legit,
Speaker 3: and in doing so, you know, obviously that's.
Speaker 2: One of the many that has stood the test of time.
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that, because it's everybody's story.
Speaker 5: So when you create a new song, how often do
Speaker 5: you know that you've got something special?
Speaker 3: Absolutely do not, as you know, as we talk behind
Speaker 3: the stage. I got in around two thirty this morning
Speaker 3: and have been recording some stuff in Los Angeles for
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 2: And I left there thinking I've got it. I'm a genius.
Speaker 3: But I wake up this morning you go, I don't
Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. I just did it again,
Speaker 3: you know, you really, you don't know. There's so many
Speaker 3: times that I've thought I had it and I don't,
Speaker 3: and so many times that I was surprised.
Speaker 4: So by the way, for us old people, let me
Speaker 4: just throw something out.
Speaker 5: Hey, But you've gotten older, have you got more questions
Speaker 5: when you were younger? Did you think this is going
Speaker 5: to be a hit or is this something that as
Speaker 5: you age you go.
Speaker 4: Who knows.
Speaker 2: There's a certain confidence you have when you're a young kid.
Speaker 3: I was much more fearless, and it was probably naivete.
Speaker 3: Now I don't live in fear, but I don't pay
Speaker 3: attention like I used to. There was a story I
Speaker 3: was talking about yesterday and it was during the era
Speaker 3: of Slippery and Wet, and I remember this really well,
Speaker 3: reading a music publication and George Harrison was alive and well,
Speaker 3: and it was asked about the success of the band
Speaker 3: and he said, I don't know who they are. And
Speaker 3: I was initially offended. And I was saying to the
Speaker 3: guy yesterday that I was talking to. He wasn't saying
Speaker 3: something offensive about the band. It was just not where
Speaker 3: he was at in his life then. So as we
Speaker 3: were talking about young, young, young artists yesterday that coming
Speaker 3: out of TikTok, you know the guys with one new song,
Speaker 3: I said, no, I'm sorry, I don't know them. And
Speaker 3: it wasn't meant to be at all offensive. It was
Speaker 3: that I'm not paying attention to that. All I can
Speaker 3: do is beyond my journey and write who I am
Speaker 3: and what I want to talk about, and not to
Speaker 3: look around based on that.
Speaker 2: It has to be based in truth.
Speaker 4: So let's take that one step further.
Speaker 5: You are almost like a rock star by day, family
Speaker 5: man by night, and everyone who knows you comments that's
Speaker 5: sort of your reputation. I don't think you've ever fallen
Speaker 5: victim to the trappings of being a rock star. You
Speaker 5: stay in rooms, not sweets. There are no trails of limos,
Speaker 5: there's no tons of security, no visible hangar ons, and
Speaker 5: you have one of the most six celebrity marriage is
Speaker 5: how does that happen?
Speaker 4: There have to be some lessons in that.
Speaker 5: But the group of everybody here who probably has opportunities
Speaker 5: to get seduced by power and privilege.
Speaker 3: So did I look, I'm those saint, I'm the lead
Speaker 3: singer and a very successful rock band. We've had a
Speaker 3: lot of wonderful memories, but they were what they were,
Speaker 3: and you know, on the family side of things, that's
Speaker 3: my rock and my wife and I went to high.
Speaker 2: School together, and I know that we grew together.
Speaker 3: That was important, you know, we grew up together, so
Speaker 3: she saw every facet of this, and then you know,
Speaker 3: we grew together. That's imperative here. And then you know,
Speaker 3: the kids, I hope they see that work ethics. So again,
Speaker 3: if you can bestow on your kids anything is if
Speaker 3: they could see by example what you've done, maybe they'll
Speaker 3: take the good of it and disregard some of the bad.
Speaker 2: I'm no saint, it's just it's a work in progress.
Speaker 5: You grew up obviously the product of the seventies and
Speaker 5: early eighties. How did your family life influence you? And
Speaker 5: what are those sort of lessons that you learned there
Speaker 5: that show up as you today.
Speaker 3: In the time that I was born, in nineteen sixty two,
Speaker 3: President Kennedy was in office, my parents fully bought into
Speaker 3: the whole camelot. You know, we can go to the moon,
Speaker 3: you could be anything you want. We're going to buy
Speaker 3: a house in middle class New Jersey. I was blessed
Speaker 3: with that. I was born at the right time, in
Speaker 3: the right place, looking a certain way, and so there
Speaker 3: weren't a lot of, you know, obstacles in the way
Speaker 3: of dreaming. And I know the difference, and I know
Speaker 3: the difference especially now, so I was lucky, and then
Speaker 3: hard work and.
Speaker 2: Luck makes for success, you know.
Speaker 3: But a lot of it had to do with the time,
Speaker 3: the place, the color of my skin, the economic advantages
Speaker 3: of you know, two parents that worked, and that work
Speaker 3: ethic was instilled in all of us.
Speaker 5: Got to hope my kids say something like that about
Speaker 5: me at a certain point. Are there any words from
Speaker 5: your parents that echo in your head now? And then
Speaker 5: that advice they gave you or comments they made.
Speaker 3: Other than my mother was smart enough to say the
Speaker 3: band's name should be bon Jovi.
Speaker 2: That was pretty good advice. You know.
Speaker 3: Even then, I knew that if I was going to
Speaker 3: fail or succeed, it was going to be, you know,
Speaker 3: my responsibility.
Speaker 2: So that was actually great advice. That my folks were
Speaker 2: supportive enough.
Speaker 3: And when the drinking age in New Jersey was eighteen
Speaker 3: and you could sneak into a bar at sixteen, you
Speaker 3: could cut your teeth, but you didn't have responsibility yet.
Speaker 3: You didn't have to worry about a paycheck. You know,
Speaker 3: you lived under your folks roof at sixteen, at least
Speaker 3: I did. All they told us was that if you're
Speaker 3: going to be in a bar, at least we know
Speaker 3: where you are, and so if you're going to focus
Speaker 3: on something, keep focusing on it. I didn't go to college,
Speaker 3: you know, but I had a record deal by the
Speaker 3: time I was twenty one. It's the same record deal
Speaker 3: at the same company, and I'm sixty one, and that's
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 5: Give me a little loss of that stability, and the
Speaker 5: music business not allow of it.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 5: Also, we were talking a little bit of a backstage
Speaker 5: where parents, we all have these kids coming into their
Speaker 5: own great temptation to tell your kids what they should do.
Speaker 5: Did you give your parents a vote, you know.
Speaker 3: In retrospect. But I don't want to hear that, Bob.
Speaker 3: I want to hear that I'm right and my kids.
Speaker 2: Should listen to me.
Speaker 3: This is bullshit, because I've come to that phase and
Speaker 3: stage in my children's lives where they don't listen to
Speaker 3: me any longer. And I'm I'm just dad. Oh you
Speaker 3: don't know what you're talking about, and you're like, oh God,
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a continual learning. In the process
Speaker 3: of learning and being a parent, ever evolving a.
Speaker 4: Being a family man. You're actually in business with your sons.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in this great successful watch company.
Speaker 2: Hampton water, Hampton Water.
Speaker 4: How did that dynamic come about?
Speaker 3: My son, Jesse, was a walk on football player at
Speaker 3: Notre Dame and his roommate was a hockey player. And
Speaker 3: I often drank Rose wine, and for many many years,
Speaker 3: under the guise of not telling my kids that I
Speaker 3: was drinking as much, I'd say, Daddy wants.
Speaker 2: Some pink juice.
Speaker 3: And one night the kid came home and he said,
Speaker 3: I've got an idea. It's not pink juice anymore. It's
Speaker 3: Hampton water and you know, and I went, wow, I
Speaker 3: love that. And then we start to jokingly saying we
Speaker 3: should have a wine knowing nothing about the wine business,
Speaker 3: and I said, if you go back to school, use
Speaker 3: that business degree, come back with a power point if
Speaker 3: it makes any sense, I know where to go with it.
Speaker 3: He did six years later, where the number five rose
Speaker 3: in the world, and he's really on the verge of
Speaker 3: something big, which is fabulous. One thing we did from
Speaker 3: day two was we really were confident that we weren't
Speaker 3: going to have a celebrity brand, but we were going
Speaker 3: to have a family business. And so you know, I'm
Speaker 3: Santa Claus, I'm the guy that shows up for the
Speaker 3: photo op he's the one that does all the hard work.
Speaker 3: But we've got a full staff. Were in all fifty states,
Speaker 3: we're in fifty plus countries, and it's a family business.
Speaker 3: It's going great.
Speaker 4: So let me get attle entrepreneurs lesson in here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you had known everything you know now about
Speaker 5: the wine business, would you have started it?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like this.
Speaker 3: I find it sexier than selling you know, socks. You know,
Speaker 3: I get the samples. I like taking the samples home
Speaker 3: at night, so you know, we're having fun with it.
Speaker 3: More importantly, I'm absolutely pay for the privilege of being
Speaker 3: in business with one of my children, who make me
Speaker 3: proud every day.
Speaker 5: More of math and Magic right after this quick break,
Speaker 5: Welcome back to Mathem Magic.
Speaker 4: Let's hear more from my conversation with John bon Jovi.
Speaker 4: Soul Kitchen. You and your wife started it.
Speaker 5: It served over one hundred and sixty thousand meals. I
Speaker 5: think it's the number you've used your power and connections
Speaker 5: to help others.
Speaker 4: That's a hallmark.
Speaker 5: I think you've done on a very small scale, and
Speaker 5: then you're doing on a much larger scale too. Where
Speaker 5: did that strong commitment to help others come from?
Speaker 2: There was probably instilled in me in my years of travel.
Speaker 3: The seeds were probably planted by my parents, but they
Speaker 3: weren't necessarily philanthropic, or certainly weren't political. In my world travels,
Speaker 3: i'd seen a lot of unfair inequality. But on the
Speaker 3: streets of Philadelphia, I was the co owner of an
Speaker 3: arena football team with a buddy of mine named Craig Spencer.
Speaker 2: Whose daughter's here today.
Speaker 3: And I said, we can win in the market if
Speaker 3: we think of this differently than the Big four baseball, basketball, football, hockey.
Speaker 2: And that was to be more philanthropic than anyone.
Speaker 3: One night, I was looking out of the window of
Speaker 3: the hotel and I saw a man sleeping on a
Speaker 3: great dead a winter. And I called a buddy of
Speaker 3: mine who was born and raised in Philly, and I said,
Speaker 3: if you could find me somebody in the homeless area,
Speaker 3: I'd like to talk about housing. And he found me
Speaker 3: the Michael Jordan of the issue, a sister of mercy
Speaker 3: by the name of Mary Scullion. So Sister Mary and
Speaker 3: I meet and she says, maybe you guys can save
Speaker 3: up enough money to refurbish a row home. And I said,
Speaker 3: how much is it to do a block? And I said,
Speaker 3: I'm not being a wise ass, but if we can
Speaker 3: do a block, we could do a neighborhood. If we
Speaker 3: could do a neighborhood, we can impact the city. She said,
Speaker 3: I like you, And one thing led to another. We've
Speaker 3: built a thousand units of affordable housing. We have four
Speaker 3: soon to be five Soul Kitchen restaurants. The restaurant is
Speaker 3: an incredibly unique model. It didn't exist anywhere, but Dorothea
Speaker 3: dreamed it up. It's a pay it forward model. If
Speaker 3: any of you were to come to it, there's no
Speaker 3: prices on the menu. It's a farm to table environment.
Speaker 3: It looks like a beautiful beestro, but you would never
Speaker 3: know that someone next to you is.
Speaker 2: Actually in need.
Speaker 3: And get out of your mind's eye that it's a
Speaker 3: soup kitchen, because it's not those amongst us that are
Speaker 3: making ends meet barely.
Speaker 2: You know the old adage two paychecks away.
Speaker 3: In the economic downturn, this was really prevalent again in COVID.
Speaker 3: People would come to our restaurant. They are greeted by
Speaker 3: a what looks like a hostess, but really a social worker.
Speaker 3: That social worker discusses the concept and if you are willing,
Speaker 3: you participate and that means you're busting a table, you're
Speaker 3: working in the garden, you're doing something that is earning
Speaker 3: that meal. Empowering somebody, having them give the opportunity to
Speaker 3: earn that meal makes someone feel so much better than
Speaker 3: a handout.
Speaker 2: It is a hand up.
Speaker 3: And so we created this model in the restaurant those
Speaker 3: who want to affect change directly. If you and I
Speaker 3: go in there and you put down fifty dollars, it
Speaker 3: pays for your meal and the meal of that guy
Speaker 3: and his wife.
Speaker 2: Daughter sitting next to you.
Speaker 3: Directly, I'm affecting change and that guy's volunteering, or if
Speaker 3: you don't volunteer, you sort of feel like you're missing
Speaker 3: out of the party. So we started the first one
Speaker 3: in a thirty three seat restaurant. It serve over one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand meals. Our second one was after Supers from
Speaker 3: Sandy in New Jersey. We have an all service providing
Speaker 3: in there, which was integral to this too, because people
Speaker 3: who are in need of a meal, they need opportunities
Speaker 3: for service providing, whether it's work credentials or job training, childcare,
Speaker 3: dental doctors. We have access to all that in our
Speaker 3: second location. Then in a genius move. We realize that
Speaker 3: kids on college campuses who are struggling with food insecurity.
Speaker 3: So we went to Rutgers University, and to be honest
Speaker 3: with you, the chancellor didn't realize her own food pantry
Speaker 3: was what and where it was until mister bon Jovi
Speaker 3: showed up and she's walking through the halls of Rutgers
Speaker 3: and sees that food pantry and goes, we can do better,
Speaker 3: and we said we'd like to put a sole kitchen
Speaker 3: on campus.
Speaker 2: The phone rang off the hook.
Speaker 3: From UCLA to Georgia, universities across the nation wanting to
Speaker 3: open soul kitchens and then COVID hit.
Speaker 2: It set us back.
Speaker 3: But Rutgers was the first one to stand up and
Speaker 3: say we want to do this. And now it's doing
Speaker 3: very well there and at a place called Jersey City University,
Speaker 3: and now we're going to expand on the college model because,
Speaker 3: much to many people's surprise, kids on college campus just
Speaker 3: have food insecurity.
Speaker 2: That's great. Great.
Speaker 5: We can't leave today without the hot topic AI music.
Speaker 2: I want AI to do my interviews to travel for me.
Speaker 3: Yesterday was my first opportunity to see that mash up
Speaker 3: with the weekend and.
Speaker 2: It scared the hell out of me.
Speaker 3: What I'm hoping though, is that again the truth prevails,
Speaker 3: and so you know, a real song written by the
Speaker 3: real guy, I hope is always going to win that fight.
Speaker 3: So I guess I'm going to offer the same massage
Speaker 3: I did when I came in. Don't fall for fads
Speaker 3: and fashions, and let's be aware that that one's scary,
Speaker 3: you know, AI really is. It can be used for
Speaker 3: good and it can be used for bad, and we
Speaker 3: should all be very.
Speaker 2: Aware of it.
Speaker 5: We are probably all of us in the advertising business,
Speaker 5: probably overrepresented in New York Silicon Valley, LA. You're out
Speaker 5: on tour, you really see the country. What advice would
Speaker 5: you have for everybody here in terms of trying to
Speaker 5: talk about everybody in America, not just the narrow world
Speaker 5: we'd live in.
Speaker 3: The coasts, as we call it, the flyover. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: fifty states with fifty diverse opinions of who and.
Speaker 2: What we are as an But that's really what we're supposed.
Speaker 3: To have made the nation great, which was that we
Speaker 3: the people, and you know, everybody has their values and
Speaker 3: they should be spoken to without just the use of
Speaker 3: social media. You know that connectivity is what's missing today.
Speaker 3: And you know, brands to me, bon Jovi is Levi's.
Speaker 3: We are Cadillac, we are Coca Cola. We're that thing
Speaker 3: that's been there forever. And those people between the two
Speaker 3: sides are that right and those values are legit and
Speaker 3: should be heard.
Speaker 5: So we always end the episodes of Mathemagic with shout
Speaker 5: outs to the greats for you because of who you are,
Speaker 5: who on the business side of the music business would
Speaker 5: you give a shout out to?
Speaker 3: First name I guess it comes to mind is an
Speaker 3: old friend named Jimmy Iveen. Jimmy, you know, of course,
Speaker 3: was a great record producer, saw that there was a
Speaker 3: change in his own life and making the records that
Speaker 3: he knew how to make.
Speaker 2: It was like what am I going to do next?
Speaker 3: So he was smart enough to become an owner and
Speaker 3: create Innerscope with Ted Field and then go on to
Speaker 3: be in Beats when Interscope had run its course. So
Speaker 3: he really created something magical. If I think about my
Speaker 3: football ties, you think about Jerry Jones, and you know
Speaker 3: he just took another football team and said, no, this
Speaker 3: is America's team, and then he created the Dallas cowboys.
Speaker 2: So there's ways to take something that is.
Speaker 3: Considered to just be bedrock and make magic out of
Speaker 3: it because you know of what it stood for. So
Speaker 3: those would be guys, you know, from different walks of
Speaker 3: my life that I feel that I'd give it the
Speaker 3: quickest shout.
Speaker 5: Let's go on the other side, let's go on the
Speaker 5: magic side, creative side, producer, artist, Who would you give
Speaker 5: a shout out to?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I worked with a guy yesterday named Ryan Tedder from
Speaker 3: a band called One Republic.
Speaker 2: I find that he's the next generation.
Speaker 3: Kind of whiz kid and very very smart, both you know,
Speaker 3: playing the instrument as well as talking about the business
Speaker 3: of music. I used to pride myself on knowing many
Speaker 3: of the aspects of the business of music.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm one of those fortunate guys. I own
Speaker 2: my publishing.
Speaker 3: That's seventeen albums of you know, that's a lot of
Speaker 3: records for.
Speaker 4: You who don't know that. That's like Nirvana.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's I knew all those things when I
Speaker 3: was a kid. It was we created bon Jovie Management.
Speaker 3: I didn't have a manager, the commission stayed in house.
Speaker 3: So we were smart enough that I knew how to
Speaker 3: do all that, But I'd see the next generation that's
Speaker 3: what they do, and.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk.
Speaker 3: To those kind of young guys about it.
Speaker 4: John, thanks for coming.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bob, thank you for having me.
Speaker 5: Here are a few things I picked up from my
Speaker 5: conversation with John bon Jovi. One, stay true to who
Speaker 5: you are. Fads and fashion come and go. For John,
Speaker 5: staying true to himself instead of chasing the hottest new
Speaker 5: trend in music has been the key to longevity.
Speaker 4: Two.
Speaker 5: Luck is no match for discipline. John is the first
Speaker 5: to admit that much of his success has to do
Speaker 5: with being born at the right place the right time. However,
Speaker 5: he wouldn't have achieved his level of success without the
Speaker 5: strong work ethic his parents instilled in him. Three. Family
Speaker 5: and business can be a great mix. When john Son
Speaker 5: came up with the idea of the successful wine brand
Speaker 5: Hampton Water, John knew he didn't want it to be
Speaker 5: just another short lived celebrity brand. Instead, he built it
Speaker 5: together with his son, and it's a true family business
Speaker 5: with staying power. I'm Bob Pittman, Thanks for listening.
Speaker 6: That's it for today's episode. Thanks so much for listening
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Speaker 6: for booking and wrangling our wonderful.
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