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Speaker 2: The World's a Pigeon podcast, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: There's a chance that the Cleveland guys just know how

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Speaker 3: to coach line play. They had great lines in Cleveland

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Speaker 3: for the four years at Alex van Pelt was there,

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Speaker 3: the strike system and all these little things that they.

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Speaker 4: Do, and a tutorial on that way. In fairness, I

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Speaker 4: didn't watch. I haven't seen any of the one on one.

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Speaker 4: You're not You're not I'm watching. You don't have the

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Speaker 4: Sunday ticket with the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: Strike systems, you know different things.

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Speaker 5: You know, you know what my strike system is, strike first,

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Speaker 5: strike hard, no more.

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Speaker 3: My god, I can't wait to hear my jingles.

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Speaker 5: I was still doing that.

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Speaker 4: I have a jingle to Sneaky Territory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if we were close, we'd give Judah

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Speaker 2: the boat with the bag, you know, but maybe a.

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Speaker 4: Boat had another horrific draw near the sideline.

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Speaker 5: Did you get that one? Huh?

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Speaker 6: I thank you for making me a better hurt.

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Speaker 4: That sounded sarcastic.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 2: atche Let's Stadium. The Patriots are back on the field practicing.

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Speaker 2: No pads today, but they were out. From what I saw,

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Speaker 2: it was a pretty good tempoed practice. Very hot. I

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Speaker 2: would say. Temperatures are in the nineties.

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Speaker 4: Down there, definitely the hottest stage camp.

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Speaker 2: Sun's out, no shade, so good day for conditioning. They

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Speaker 2: did do a lot of running even before practice. But uh,

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Speaker 2: I would say, you know, a decent practice from what

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Speaker 2: I saw, but obviously we're going to get into it.

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Speaker 2: Matt Judan was back on the field, so I assume

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Speaker 2: somebody sat down and had to talk with somebody, and.

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Speaker 4: Girod Mayo had to talk with Matthew Judon. He told

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Speaker 4: us before.

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Speaker 2: Practice and it made clear what the expectations were if

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Speaker 2: you're going to be out there, and he was out

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Speaker 2: there participating fully fully, So all's well right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see tomorrow when Pat's come on.

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Speaker 2: Patriota, right, that's a great.

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Speaker 4: Pointcause everything was good the first four days Pats came on.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't so good. I would be surprised to see

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Speaker 4: anything resembling what we saw Monday. Again, I'd be very surprised.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised if we don't

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Speaker 2: see him participating.

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Speaker 4: That to me is something like Monday, not as disrespectful. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm expecting him to participate on on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Devon had his deal announced yesterday, so that's one down,

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Speaker 2: one to go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, jud It's good to see him back out there.

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Speaker 5: But I am interested to see. But it's just it

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Speaker 5: felt to me like maybe things are moving in the

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Speaker 5: to get done hopefully. I mean that's I think next

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Speaker 5: next practice, if he's out there, maybe that's a good sign.

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Speaker 5: But be nice to just resolve this. I think the

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Speaker 5: longer it hangs over the team, the more of a

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Speaker 5: distraction it is. And you know, he was kind of

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Speaker 4: But I will say one change from the first four days.

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Speaker 4: I thought all the positional drills, all the pre practice stuff,

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Speaker 4: I think that is a good sign that like, maybe

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Speaker 4: we'll try to figure out, we'll try to get a resolution.

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Speaker 4: But what you did on Monday was unacceptable. And Gerard

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Speaker 4: did the fact that that Godshaw you know, had sort

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Speaker 4: Mail admitted, yeah, it does. And so I wonder if

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Speaker 5: So big red zone day? I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 5: today we finally got there. There was still some middle

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Speaker 5: you guys can wait. And I just I thought it

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Speaker 5: May made a couple of plays and I thought he

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Speaker 5: you know, one particular play looked like he audibled to

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Speaker 5: nice plays too. Joe Milton, you know, again doesn't get

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Speaker 5: a lot of chances. But yeah, I didn't make in

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Speaker 4: Much from Milton today on platform on time. I thought

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Speaker 4: He moves around and buy his time. May, on the

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Speaker 4: Patriots plays today, you know that we joked around that

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Speaker 4: looks like a play hard play action turned back foot

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Speaker 4: that's all good. I had to remember that.

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Speaker 2: One, you know, one of your guys. So I like

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Speaker 2: that Phil Perry may had more good throws in this

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Speaker 2: that might not be saying much.

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Speaker 4: No, and I don't like I guess I try not

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Speaker 4: I don't chart every play, you know, I write them

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Speaker 4: always successful. As a matter of fact, he threw a

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Speaker 4: nice crosser to Jalen Polk and he'd like to see,

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Speaker 4: everything was perfect and like, oh all that worrying about Drake. No,

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Speaker 2: And then we have Colin Coward who looked into the camera,

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Speaker 2: who looked into the camera and said, don't be surprised

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Speaker 2: if Joe Milton wins this job. He actually said.

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Speaker 4: That, So I don't really even think that deserves conversation.

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Speaker 5: I mean he got like what four reps? I mean,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. It's just like at a certain point, like.

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Speaker 4: You just two of them. We ran around for twenty.

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Speaker 5: Minutes and may and okay, here you go, Joe, here's

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Speaker 4: Then did you notice there weren't a lot of plays

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Speaker 4: period today? I mean most of the practice was that

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Speaker 4: whatever you want to call the extended, like first day

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Speaker 4: And it was like over an hour.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, warm up, Yeah, it was I mean I said

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Speaker 4: Here, three plays here, four plays here, four plays there. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and then you're right then like Zappi would come in,

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Speaker 5: But I think Milton Zappi each got like one one

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, Well, if you look at the

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Speaker 2: they come back in shells today. Probably what we were

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Speaker 2: but they're gonna start ramping it up even more than

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Speaker 4: It'd be great.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I just think Fred, the next two

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Speaker 4: Just take that you're so calling the next two days

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like the Joe Milton conversation is exactly

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Speaker 3: what we talked about in May, which is that he

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Speaker 3: he looks like Captain America in a football field. I mean,

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Speaker 3: of people and this is what we said. There's gonna

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Speaker 3: they're gonna say, one's a really big dude that's mobile

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Speaker 3: just gonna be, uh, you know, which one you feel

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Speaker 3: like completed more passes that day is going to all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden be the better quarterback. And that's exactly

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Speaker 3: how I feel what has happened so far with Drake

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Speaker 3: May and Joe Milton. But I agree with what you know,

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Speaker 3: you guys were saying about Drake May I thought today

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Speaker 4: For him, a better day day.

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Speaker 3: Mentally, it seemed like pre snap, you know, knowing where

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Speaker 3: his eyes were supposed to go, answers things like that.

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Speaker 3: It was a little bit more fluid, and he got

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Speaker 3: him to shine a little bit more. But overall, I

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Speaker 3: just feel like the whole conversation between those two guys is, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, to a layman, you come out here at

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Speaker 3: practice and you watch them both throw a football. Joe

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Speaker 3: Milton's arm is incredible. It's it's incredible. There's no other

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Speaker 3: way to put it.

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Speaker 5: That one throw. I think it was his last rap

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Speaker 4: We have well, we have noise, that's all. No Look,

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Speaker 4: Oh, evidently Colin Coward.

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Speaker 4: I think the bottom line is I do. I agree

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Speaker 4: Comment was an off air conversation. I told you that

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Speaker 5: Off just you thought he's been doing okay.

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Speaker 4: Now you've got raising expectations. I said, you're not allowed

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Speaker 5: Oh I I thought I interpreted that as if he's

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Speaker 4: I think he's I think if he's done well, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think schematically too, it helps because this offense

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Speaker 2: Because you've seen the last two years.

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Speaker 4: I already chastised myself. Yeah, I'm not gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be able to say, no, fair enough, But that's kind

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Speaker 3: It's so rare that position in particular, that all of

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's kind of a unique first two

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Speaker 5: He got hurt.

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Speaker 4: He literally got hurt catching catching a deep ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the physicality in camp versus

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Speaker 4: Of those early, right, Yeah he was, I think he was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it was you know, some of that physicality

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Speaker 2: Any of you doctors in the house want to give

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Speaker 5: Well, we saw you know, Marty Map who continues to

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Speaker 5: I think we mentioned that one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're missing four players out there, obviously bar More

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Speaker 4: He can't, Like I watched him do a lap the

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Speaker 2: And can we get an up update on the strike system?

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Speaker 3: Well, I just quickly on Andrews. He did say it

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Speaker 4: So nothing physical or did I I don't know if

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Speaker 5: So he still it seemed like he didn't really participate

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Speaker 4: He started in the elevens and then he came out

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought still seemed like Maffy was consistently snapping

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw a little bit of that would Jude

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Speaker 2: Are we still looking at Wallace on the left and

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Speaker 3: Well today it was Vederian Lowe on the left, So

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Speaker 4: You really hurt my feelings. Sometimes you just don't listen.

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Speaker 4: Mike just said Veerian low like.

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Speaker 3: Wallace being at left tackle for Drake may might have

440
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,920
Speaker 3: helped a little bit, like not to have a line

441
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,840
Speaker 3: of all backups that are guys that project his backup.

442
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 4: See, I didn't really even think of that, And that's

443
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,400
Speaker 4: the kind of thing that coaches when they bristle at

444
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 4: you just saying, well, you know, it could be a

445
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 4: very logical reason like that, they know the context they wanted,

446
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 4: they wanted to do it like that and make it

447
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 4: maybe a little bit less, you know, obvious that were

448
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 4: just kind of given him a different line. I think

449
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,679
Speaker 4: he struggled in elevens on Tuesday, Kayden Wallace, So I

450
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,360
Speaker 4: think that is probably more more why. But I think

451
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 4: they're going to continue to mix and match. It's kind

452
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Speaker 4: of what Gerard told me back in the summer, in

453
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Speaker 4: the early early part of the summer. I think they're

454
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Speaker 4: gonna keep on looking for guys, but Kyden Wallace is

455
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 4: probably a guy that's gonna be part of the mix.

456
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, just one more thing on Drake. I don't

457
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 3: know if you talked about the throw that you and

458
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 3: I were begging him to throw it. He got outside

459
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 3: the pocket, he was rolling to his right and Juju

460
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 3: looked like he might have had a step on the corner,

461
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,680
Speaker 3: and I thought that that Drake May was gonna throw

462
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Speaker 3: one of those off platform bombs, and he pulled it

463
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Speaker 3: down and just ran with it instead, and I was like,

464
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Speaker 3: you know, in my head, I'm just like throw, like

465
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Speaker 3: why didn't you? You know, he throws that in college, like not,

466
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 3: doesn't even think of it and just throws it. And

467
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: I made note of it that maybe I don't know,

468
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 3: maybe they're they're trying to get him to to not

469
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 3: do that kind of stuff.

470
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Speaker 2: I really love the cross his body, no look past

471
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Speaker 2: the kJ Osborne.

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah that was a pretty one.

473
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Speaker 4: I I didn't like that.

474
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna get used to those because he's gonna

475
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 3: do that. And then they also ran a couple of

476
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 3: read option plays too with him in the run game,

477
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: where I was excited because maybe not in the open field,

478
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: but when you get down to the goal line, he

479
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 3: can do that and he can score on his own untouched,

480
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 3: so you're not worried about him getting hit getting hit

481
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: at that point. And so it seems like they're they're

482
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: starting to put some of those things into Okay.

483
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 2: Well, sounds like a productive practice leading into tomorrow's pads.

484
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was hot.

485
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 4: I think it was a little non padded practice. It

486
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 4: wasn't bad. I would say the ones I lose interest

487
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 4: in ten minutes in.

488
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 5: But I was saying it too that the difference between

489
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 5: practice this year is it felt like you kind of

490
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 5: you'd have a good competitive period that you took a

491
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Speaker 5: lot from and then it would be kickoff for a

492
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Speaker 5: little bit, and you know, and like you'd always have

493
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 5: those interstitial special teams perers that broke it up, and

494
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 5: now it's like sevens, elevens, eleven's in the middle, eleven's

495
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 5: low reds. I mean there was a lot of special

496
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 5: teams today though, Yeah, but I don't know there was more.

497
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 5: But I don't know. I just feel like it's not

498
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 5: as it's not as it's more grouped together.

499
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: Well, I noticed they were voting at times one field

500
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: to special teams, and they would still do whatever they

501
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: had to do in the other field. It wasn't like,

502
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: you know, the whole practice stopped and Okay, now we're

503
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: doing special teams.

504
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: A couple of things on their kickoff and they worked

505
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 4: on it. Again, nothing really out of the ordinary. They

506
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 4: were traditionally kicking the ball. I think the League, I

507
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: think put it in, like we've we've seen them sort

508
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 4: of experiment with ball placement on the tee, you know,

509
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 4: side what you can't do that. Evidently the League has

510
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 4: put something in. It needs to be a certain height

511
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 4: if you're gonna you know, depending on how you situate

512
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 4: the ball. So some of that stuff is so you

513
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 4: think people.

514
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: Were thinking, oh, put a different way, lower trajectory or

515
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: something like that.

516
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 4: Something you know, hit the ball there faster. So the

517
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 4: league is sort of stepped in on that. And then

518
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 4: Florio talked about it yesterday like just I don't think

519
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 4: people remember when it first came out, all of the

520
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 4: different restrictions on on side kicks. Yeah, you basically can't

521
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 4: onside kick anymore, right, You can onside kick ever if

522
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 4: you're leading, you can't on side kick ever in the

523
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 4: first three quarters of the game, and you have to

524
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 4: tell people that you're onside kicking.

525
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

526
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's no more surprise on side kick.

527
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem right, no.

528
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's dynamic, a waste of time.

529
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: That's what they're calling it. They're actually calling it the

530
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: dynamic kickoff.

531
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 4: Rule or whatever, which is so silly. So tonight I

532
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 4: heard you with a voice of reason yesterday. It's the

533
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 4: word in the street. It's the word in the street,

534
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 4: I am.

535
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: But tonight is the Hall of Fame game. So, who's

536
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: playing Chicago and Houston? Chicago and Houston.

537
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 3: Williams the threes for Chicago and Houston. According to So,

538
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: I taught him like a series.

539
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: I talked to somebody upstairs who I won't name. I said,

540
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna watch it? Oh, yeah, I always watch.

541
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: I'm like's really into this?

542
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: Ask your question of all the years that you've watched,

543
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 2: if you hadn't seen any of those games, what would

544
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: you have missed?

545
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 4: You couldn't answer, like, I haven't watched that game since

546
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 4: two thousand.

547
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know why we're in it.

548
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 4: That's two thousand, right, Tom Brady's first ever game.

549
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 5: It's got to be a couple of years though, Patriots

550
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 5: are going to be there, right, Brady's got to.

551
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 4: Be close, Right, it's twenty twenty four. It's been twenty

552
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 4: four years.

553
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: Well, I would think once when it's Brady's er.

554
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, when when he's going in usually they have a

555
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 2: team in that. So who was it again? I'm sorry

556
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: tonight it's Technicgo and Chicago. Either of those teams have

557
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: a player Andre Johnson.

558
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 3: I believe Andre Johnson's in this class, right.

559
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: Or is that last? Hester? Is it Hester?

560
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: No?

561
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 3: Hester?

562
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 4: I think I'll look it up, but I do try

563
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: to do that, Yeah, you know, kind of sync it

564
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 4: up with the class.

565
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 5: I got something else. How about Bill Belichick go and

566
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 5: work for Underdog Fantasy.

567
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. You know, I did a little research

568
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: on Underdog Fantasy and who is behind it. You know

569
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: it started with investors, but Kevin Durant, Jared Goff and

570
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter himself who broke the news. Our investors in

571
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: that company.

572
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: Deucey r Correct, Devin Hester, Andre Johnson.

573
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that makes sense, Yeah, that those two teams

574
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: would be in it, and it'll make.

575
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 3: Sense Julius Peppers, who played had a couple of years

576
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: with Chicago.

577
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but going back to that, it looks intriguing. It's

578
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of X and o's with Bill.

579
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: I think people like Evan will be glued to it.

580
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: I do wonder though, you know, it's gonna be on YouTube,

581
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: by the way, that's how you watch it. I do

582
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: wonder if it's going to have that mass audience that

583
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: I don't think it. You know, you might have people

584
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 2: tuning in at first, but to me, that stuff gets

585
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: boring after a while. I think most fans just want

586
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 2: to watch the games and keep it entertainment rather than homework.

587
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

588
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: I think the problem that I guess is not a

589
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 3: problem necessarily, but the good clips are going to make

590
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: it onto Twitter or X or whatever you want to

591
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: call it. So like, is there any reason to sit

592
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: down and watch thirty minutes of this when the five

593
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: minutes of things that are actually interesting that he says

594
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 3: are going to be clipped out and put on X

595
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: and then that doesn't generate clicks for their site, you know.

596
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: So that's the I probably wouldn't actually sit down and

597
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: watch all thirty minutes of.

598
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: It, but it's interesting, he said. You know, I really

599
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: wanted to work with Underdog because it's a company that's

600
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: run by sports people. And I heard one of your

601
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: one of your people in this morning say that's a

602
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: shot at the Patriots. You know, it's being run by

603
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: sports people.

604
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: It's not No, it's not. It's a shot at non

605
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: sports people because no one knows it. It's like the

606
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: geniuses at the league. Yeah, it's one of those. It's

607
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 4: not a shot.

608
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: And also I think it's a shot at maybe some

609
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: of the job offers that he's had from companies that

610
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: weren't you know, he wants the suit set these networks.

611
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: He doesn't want to do like these cute, little crippy

612
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: you know, twelve second bites in between everybody else talking.

613
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 4: He wants to break down film and talk ball. Right,

614
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: that's what he wants.

615
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 5: Right does he though that's what I can't do.

616
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: That's what he wants. Doesn't want to come out he's

617
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: doing a NFL film. Oh I'm not trying. I mean,

618
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: he would have been the coach they offered him the job.

619
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 5: No is this Like I just feel like this is

620
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 5: him holding his nose and being like, no, this.

621
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: Is what it is. But this is what he's interested in.

622
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: Is this is what I'm trying to do.

623
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 3: We're exactly the same.

624
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 5: I'm just having trouble imagining him being excited about this. Like,

625
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 5: I just think in his heart of hearts, he wants

626
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 5: to coach a team and he wants to do that,

627
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 5: and he doesn't that he would rather be a coach

628
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 5: playing with Fantasy sports.

629
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: But in other words, instead of being like one of

630
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 4: the seven guys on ESPN's pregame show on Sunday or

631
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: pick the Net, Fox or CBS, he'd rather be breaking

632
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 4: down film of a game for NFL film.

633
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be getting into little debates with

634
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: Terry Bradshaw.

635
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 5: You no, and now but now it's like it's a

636
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 5: fantasy sports company too though, so like I gotta imagine

637
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 5: he has no respect for fantasy general. I mean, I

638
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 5: understand why the company did it. It's a great get

639
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 5: for them. They probably phoneyed up as much as they

640
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 5: could possibly grab to make this their thing. But just

641
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 5: watching him do it, and you know, it's like, welcome

642
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 5: to our side, buddy, Like you know, it's like you

643
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 5: did nothing but like tool on what we do and

644
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 5: then you know, all come around.

645
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 8: Yeah.

646
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: I just wonder one doesn't make him more likable. It

647
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 3: can he put out a persona that improves his likability,

648
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 3: which I think was an issue for this past coaching

649
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: cycle was just his personality and people know him from

650
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: his press conferences and not necessarily the stuff that he

651
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: would give the players and the team behind closed doors.

652
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: And does you know he did do some stuff for

653
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: the draft right with ESPN and he came off pretty

654
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: well in those things, so likability. And then the other

655
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: thing is is like these film breakdowns coaching chops, like

656
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: does he show off in the And he probably will

657
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: a little bit, but.

658
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: I don't think he needs that. But it's a good

659
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: point because I heard people this morning say, oh, this

660
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Speaker 2: is he's never coaching again. He's got three media gigs

661
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: right now, he's never touched again.

662
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Speaker 4: I think it's closer five.

663
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Speaker 2: It might be. You know, I I don't think that

664
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Speaker 2: that says he's never coaching again. He's staying relevant, hurt

665
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Speaker 2: the guy that got the Lakers job. No, I think

666
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Speaker 2: you want to be in the you want to be

667
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: still out there.

668
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Speaker 3: I think it's one hundred percent. I think it's exact

669
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Speaker 3: opposite of wanting to do this. You got to keep

670
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Speaker 3: your name in the news. You got to you got

671
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Speaker 3: to keep yourself in the limelight so that next coaching

672
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Speaker 3: cycle you're not a forgotten So.

673
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Speaker 2: I know this shouldn't be the reason why you hire

674
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Speaker 2: a head coach, but part of the reason is what's

675
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: the fan reaction going to be, And if like he's

676
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Speaker 2: having a great year on media and now he's my

677
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: next head coach, fans are excited that exactly.

678
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Speaker 5: Maybe it's smart. I guess I would have thought that

679
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 5: he would kind of do a Rabel did maybe and

680
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 5: just disappear behind the scenes on a team and you know,

681
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 5: get a chance to just be out of the spotlight,

682
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 5: not worry about having to deal with press conferences, and

683
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 5: you know, still be in the mix. And I mean,

684
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Speaker 5: I don't want to make it sound like I'm complaining

685
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 5: about this, like I will enjoy watching it. It's just

686
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 5: it's just striking when and we've been in the position

687
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 5: that we've been in and all of a sudden, now

688
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 5: he's on our side of the street, and it's like, oh,

689
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 5: I'm working.

690
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Speaker 4: With sports inside the NFL. Right, mcava He's got the

691
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Speaker 4: McAfee thing, the Manning cast, this thing, right, and I'm

692
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Speaker 4: told that there's another one coming for NFL films. I

693
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Speaker 4: think he's going to have sort of like an like

694
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Speaker 4: an NFL matchup kind of thing. That's what it's just

695
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: all film.

696
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can I can get with that, guys.

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Speaker 4: Can I just you guys can do that on your

698
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Speaker 4: own time.

699
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Speaker 3: Will I do think this last last coaching cycle, selling

700
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Speaker 3: him to the younger generation, this generation of players, the

701
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: likability factor and all that kind of stuff was an

702
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Speaker 3: issue for a lot of these teams. That's why a

703
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: lot of these teams hired much younger coaches than Bill

704
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Speaker 3: Belichick this time around. If he's this different person on

705
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Speaker 3: TV that maybe these teams haven't seen in the public eye,

706
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Speaker 3: it might help him.

707
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Speaker 2: But do you think the sixteen to thirty five year old,

708
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Speaker 2: you know, mostly males, are going to want to watch

709
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Speaker 2: this kind of stuff? Would they rather play mad and

710
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: watch the games and watch highlights?

711
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking but I'm talking about the owners like

712
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the people doing the actual higher for

713
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: these teas. Oh yeah, because now you can sell it

714
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: as well. You all loved him on McAfee, and you

715
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: all loved him with Peyton mass especially if he.

716
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Speaker 2: Says something about my team that my own coaches didn't

717
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: say right, which very well could happen.

718
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Speaker 5: Well, we all know he can turn it on like

719
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: he I mean, he can easily be charming and funny

720
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 5: and you know, just completely different than you know what

721
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 5: you traditionally think he is, so you know, buyer beware

722
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 5: because that's he's going to put on the good face

723
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 5: for that. But I think when he coaches the team,

724
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 5: it's it's going to be a lot of what he

725
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 5: established here, going back to that stuff. Not Hey, I'm

726
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 5: a happy, go lucky film guy. Now everybody, well everybody

727
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 5: loves me. You know he's got a clown nose on

728
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 5: and doing jokes and stuff.

729
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 8: You know it's not him.

730
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Speaker 3: Well he did put that helmet on.

731
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Speaker 2: I think the whole clown nos thing is why he's

732
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Speaker 2: not doing stuff like Fox and ESPN because he doesn't

733
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Speaker 2: want to be.

734
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Speaker 5: Yeah no, in the NFL films. To me, that makes

735
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 5: all the sense in the world. As you guys have

736
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 5: said it all the time, that he jumped through a

737
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 5: hoop of that place anytime. I mean, that's that's I

738
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 5: think the only outlet that he truly you know, respects

739
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: and enjoys. Yeah, that's the underdog fantasy now too.

740
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Speaker 2: All right. Eight five five Pass five hundred is the

741
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: Ace ticket hotline eight five five Pats five hundred. Web

742
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: radio at Patriots dot com is the email address. Anything

743
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 2: else you want to talk about NFL news, I mean, uh,

744
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: trying to a big contract down in Tampa Bay.

745
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Speaker 4: Yes, well I missed that.

746
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: Tristan Wars five years. Yeah, he's a fantastic player. Was

747
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: five years, what like one over one hundred million, I

748
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: don't know, number, like one, yeah, like eighty eight guaranteed.

749
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Speaker 4: So he's a guy that a lot of Patriots fans

750
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Speaker 4: had sort of pointed to dam as a pending free agent.

751
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 5: Seventh thing, they don't get some free agency anymore.

752
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: Those those types of tackles don't. And they they got

753
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: the fifth year on him. Penny Sewell signed for four

754
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: to try to hit free agency the year earlier in

755
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Speaker 3: the next his next cycle, so the Bucks getting in

756
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: for that fifth year was considered a win.

757
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Speaker 2: We should probably mention some video coming out of Jets camp,

758
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: which one with Aaron Rodgers man one of his receivers

759
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: getting into it and there were I just love it.

760
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Speaker 5: I saw that video too. But me and Paul's Uh,

761
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Speaker 5: Me and Paul talked a little bit about the Jets though,

762
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: because they had a god day of practice the other day,

763
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 5: had a bad day a couple of days ago. I mean,

764
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Speaker 5: I don't want to derail it with your point, but

765
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Speaker 5: like I've been watching a lot of the reports from camp,

766
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 5: and it's just a lot of the same stuff. It's like,

767
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 5: you know, one hand, you see, here's Caleb Willone's making

768
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 5: a great throw up, Here's Caleb Williams making a terrible threat,

769
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 5: you know, across the board, all the rookies, JJ McCarthy,

770
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: same kind of thing, you know. And then the Jets,

771
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Speaker 5: it was I saw they had a terrible day, they

772
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 5: couldn't get anything going. Then they had a good day.

773
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Speaker 5: But then you to Fred's point, they're talking Him and

774
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 5: Garrett Wilson just look like kind of at each other

775
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 5: a little bit. But I don't know, competitive guys. I think, hey,

776
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Speaker 5: I'm hoping that it doesn't work.

777
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Speaker 2: Like we want to make fun of it because you

778
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: know it's the Yets, but I just like to rogers,

779
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: like to be fair. It's probably a whole lot of nothing.

780
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean, I I gotta imagine he's, uh,

781
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 5: he's gonna be looking Garrett Wilson's way a lot this year.

782
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 5: That's that's a that's a dangerous match. They're gonna that's

783
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: gonna be give me about each other's gonna ice them,

784
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 5: I mean, and we all want that to happen. We

785
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 5: all want this year. It's like, no, he stays healthy,

786
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: but he just hates Garret Wilson to throw on the ball.

787
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Speaker 3: I feel like the more that I we cover training camp,

788
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 3: more I cover training camp, the more I realize that

789
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: training camp really is not indicative for the top of

790
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: the roster. Like I don't know if you can necessarily

791
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: tell a team is going to be great or not

792
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: based off of these practices, because the Duce's point, you

793
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: read these other practices and it's it's it is, it's

794
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: a it's a roller coaster for every single thing.

795
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: Even in the heyday of the dynasty here, I think

796
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: we had a very mediocre preseason record when it came

797
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: to the games.

798
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Speaker 4: Oh the games are completely and utterly meaningless. But like

799
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 4: the preseason, like the training camp practices, I think you

800
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 4: can sort of see like and this is this was

801
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 4: the day. Yeah, this is the extreme. It's the extreme.

802
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: But like we all talked about seven, like this looks different.

803
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: We didn't know what it was gonna you.

804
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Know, most of us undefeated.

805
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 4: Most of us admit, we don't know exactly how different,

806
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: but we said this is going to be a much

807
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: more explosive offense, like they had a really good offense

808
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: and O four oh five, oh six. But when you

809
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: watched Oh. Seven's training camp, everybody said the same thing,

810
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 4: like even without moss really because they said, we didn't

811
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 4: get to see a ton of moss. But this just

812
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: looked different.

813
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: Welker.

814
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Speaker 4: You know how fast the ball was kind of on

815
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: the spread, and it was just different like when you

816
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 4: could see Brady and they did have good training camps,

817
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: like the ball like almost never hit the ground, were

818
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: used to so efficient. Yeah, yeah, I.

819
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Speaker 3: Mean that might be the pinnacle. I just think for

820
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: a lot of these teams that are down to earth,

821
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: like not the dynasty Patriots a little different. I always

822
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: I keep going back to to the Green Bay joint

823
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: practices and just that team looked okay, but I you know,

824
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: it didn't look like a team that was going to

825
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: make the playoffs and win a playoff game and go

826
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: on any sort of run or any differently than the Patriots.

827
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: And you know, then you read reports that Brock Purty

828
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: threw like three interceptions in practice two days ago and

829
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 3: then yesterday he lit it up, you know, and that's

830
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 3: a super Bowl favorite in forty nine ers that are

831
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 3: going through the same ups.

832
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 4: And down, and you know what I think is the difference.

833
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: And I know that I always rail against this. I

834
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: don't ever remember anybody ever keeping stats. That's a that's

835
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: a new thing back then. Yeah, I don't. I don't

836
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 4: remember that. The just the litany of numbers that come

837
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: out of training camp practices. And I'm not telling you

838
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: that no one ever did it, because I know every

839
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: time I say no one did it, people said, well,

840
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: I remember interceptions. No one ever kept track of that.

841
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: Someone might have said, oh, Rodney Harrison picked off Tom

842
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: Brady today and you know a fight ensued, you know,

843
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: because they were so competitive. But I don't remember people

844
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 4: charting every single snap, every single play the way that

845
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 4: we do now. When when I say we, I mean them.

846
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: It's just really hard to do because there's so much

847
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: context needed for every single play that doesn't exist in

848
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: practice like there was. I think it was actually Taekwon

849
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: he caught a passing the back of the end zone

850
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: in one of the red zone periods. But Persett must have.

851
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: Held the ball for five or it was a handful

852
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: of plays like that today that would not have been

853
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 4: completed again, right.

854
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: And so in the game you figure sack throwaway something

855
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: like that. Now, is there a chance that he pulls

856
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 3: a Hootini act and extends the play? That happens short

857
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 3: but in reality, but that if you're just tracking stats.

858
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: There's so much to every play. I mean, we talked

859
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 2: about it earlier. Maybe it's not a big deal, but

860
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 2: the fact that oh, Drake may had a better day. Oh,

861
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: Caden Wallace was his left tackle on some of those.

862
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 2: Oh maybe that made a difference.

863
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: I might don't know. And I think Evans throwing that

864
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: out there, I think is purely plausible. They might have

865
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: just wanted to give him a little more time to throw.

866
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Speaker 2: That's what it looks like with the left NFL.

867
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Speaker 4: That's why when they have one well, i mean just

868
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: calling it. Kid seven days into his career, competent.

869
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Speaker 3: Two patted practices, I'm ready to stamp care.

870
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Speaker 5: And that's why I've really enjoyed just the last couple

871
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 5: of days just turning the personnel and you know, the rotation,

872
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: just because it gives you a sense of who they

873
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: want to see the most of. And if a guy

874
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 5: like Juju was just isn't getting out there, it's hard

875
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 5: to say he's really in the mix for one of

876
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 5: those top five six spots.

877
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: Well, he tripped over a rock on Tuesday and he

878
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 4: heard it that.

879
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 5: You had a job today too, didn't he? And then

880
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 5: did Dougar get a pick on that one? We were

881
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 5: I couldn't really see it, Graad.

882
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 4: I do not believe there were any picks now.

883
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Speaker 3: I felt like it was out of bounds.

884
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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900
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Speaker 2: This is Timothy from flag Staff. He says, I just

901
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Speaker 2: wanted to chime in and ask why Ben Volan said

902
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: Joe Milton is out playing Drake May. I listened to

903
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Speaker 2: PU instead of anything else because of the straightforward results

904
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Speaker 2: you give, and I think other people saying these things

905
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: are just insane. That would be insane.

906
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 3: I will say that Joe Milton has had his moments

907
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: in this training camp, especially lately. It's not totally it's

908
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: okay to say that Joe Milton has had some good

909
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: throws in this camp like that. It's not insane. I

910
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: just don't think it's accurate. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah,

911
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: that's probably the best way to put it. And I I,

912
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: you know, talking to people that watch college football religiously

913
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 3: and cover college football. They keep reminding me that this

914
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: is what happens to every single team that sinks their

915
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: teeth into Joe Milton, Michigan, Tennessee. Now the Patriots. In practice,

916
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 3: the guy looks like he's got all the tools and

917
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: all the ability in the world, and then you get

918
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: into the games and he just has never It's never

919
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: all come together for him. It's never all clicked. And

920
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: a lot of these teams, Michigan mostly Michigan, were duped

921
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: by the physical ability.

922
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean, who knows, but like you know,

923
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: I read you were with me Evan and Duce today.

924
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: I read out some stats of a quarterback last year

925
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: in college and I said, are these good quarterback stats?

926
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: And he said yes, And that was Joe Milton and Tennessee. Yeah,

927
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: there's no doubt about it. Now, the year before it.

928
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 5: Was the record.

929
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: No, there's his quarterback stats.

930
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: But what was the record?

931
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: I don't we didn't get into that poll.

932
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 4: But that's that's a big part of my stats.

933
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: But he had twenty interception five, I mean twenty touchdowns,

934
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: five interceptions. He had close to like six sixty percentage.

935
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: You had almost three thousand yards passing.

936
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: In almost three thousand yards, just like twenty eight hundred yard.

937
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 4: It sounds pretty pedestrian. Twenty touchdowns and twenty eight hundred yards. Yeah,

938
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: and like nowadays, they throw the ball every play.

939
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

940
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of offense they run.

941
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 2: I do, yeah, But anyway, they weren't bad stats.

942
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: They want to spread.

943
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they run area, but they he he has all

944
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 3: the ability. That's no one's ever questioned his ability. And

945
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: in a training camp, practice setting, he's going to make

946
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: some throws that are going to make you go wow.

947
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: That's really that's his physical yeah.

948
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: Gift he is, I mean, and that is as advertised. Man,

949
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 4: he's impressive.

950
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 5: Yeah.

951
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 4: The way he throws the ball is different than everybody else.

952
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: It's like Bethel Johnson, whoa, he's fast, but fast just

953
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 2: an okay player.

954
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. His Everybody makes a big deal with Milton about

955
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: the orange, you know, him throwing the orange hundred yards

956
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: and how far he can throw the ball. His drive

957
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: throws are way more impressive to me than the deep ball.

958
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: We haven't seen the deep ball a time, but just

959
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: his ability to throw like an incut on a rope

960
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: in between a couple of zone defenders, like twelve thirteen

961
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: yards down the field. It shrinks the field like his

962
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: His incut is not the same incut as Bailey's Appi's incut,

963
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: and it's it's incredible to watch it. It's probably the

964
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: livest arm I've ever seen.

965
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: I said a couple of times, and people with Gaga

966
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: over that sixty five yard pass, and I think that's

967
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 4: every quarterback in football could do that what he did,

968
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 4: but not everybody could get it there as fast as

969
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: he got it there, right, Like, that's with a separation comes.

970
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: It's a stronger arm maybe than is in the league

971
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 4: right now. I don't know if there is any any guys,

972
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: you know, especially like Stafford's one of those guys that

973
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 4: has a ridiculous arm. But at his age, he probably

974
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: doesn't throw it like that anymore. Maybe Mahomes still can.

975
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it just looks different coming off

976
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: his hands.

977
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Rogers has a strong arm too. Well.

978
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 4: Rogers's arm is ridiculous.

979
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's amazing, let's see. Colleen writes in I feel

980
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: like a big reason Joe Milton might be performing slightly

981
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: better so far is he's bound to be more loose.

982
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: Drake has the expectations of being the savior of a

983
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: storied franchise on his shoulders, and Milton's outside expectations are

984
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: to be a backup. It reminds me of when the

985
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: Celtics would play not to lose against bad teams, and

986
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: the bad teams would end up winning because they had

987
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: nothing to lose. By going all out.

988
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's something to the perception of how

989
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: like I think when May, I mean, when Milton makes

990
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 4: one of those throws that Evan's talking about, like he

991
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 4: fits one between two defenders, and everybody's like, wow, did

992
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 4: you see that throw? But then they, you know, they

993
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 4: kind of don't really talk about the three that didn't

994
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 4: look like NFL plays because he's a six round pick

995
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 4: and he's a rookie, and you know, he has these

996
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: physical skills and no one really talks about, whereas May

997
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 4: doesn't get that luxury. Every play is immensely analyzed and dissected.

998
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: I would also say, I don't think they're asking Milton

999
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: to do what they're asking for sett In May to do.

1000
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always tiptoe around exactly what you just said,

1001
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: but I I zone reads. Yeah, I would bring it.

1002
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 3: I think there is some truth to that, and certainly

1003
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 3: not as much under center work for Joe Milton, whereas

1004
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: Drake May is really running their base offense on early

1005
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: downs and being more pro style in nature like Joe

1006
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: Milton the other day, you know, before the off day

1007
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 3: on Tuesday, through an absolute rocket to Juju Smith Schuster

1008
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 3: on an RPO and I really haven't seen the Patriots

1009
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: run those types of plays as much when Drake has

1010
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: been in there. It's not that Drake can't do it,

1011
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: but that's just that is what Joe Milton is. And

1012
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: I do wonder like he's gonna play a ton in

1013
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 3: the preseason Milton is. I'm sure we'll see of Drake

1014
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: May too, but these are the types of plays that

1015
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: are gonna make Joe Milton look good in preseason games

1016
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: because it's the type of offense he's used to running.

1017
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 3: So I wonder if maybe that's why they're asking him

1018
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 3: to do these things, because on Thursday night next week,

1019
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: you know when he's in there that that's what they're

1020
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: gonna be, the type of offense they're gonna be running.

1021
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Millie Cunningham to an extent, where

1022
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: Millie Cunningham had all these different types of plays that

1023
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: they weren't putting in with Mac Jones and Bailey's Abbey.

1024
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 5: It's just so hard with the volume. I mean, that

1025
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 5: to me is what stands out most. It's like, I mean,

1026
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: how many more snaps is Milton as May taken in

1027
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 5: team periods? It's like four times the amount of snaps

1028
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 5: that Milton has, So you're talking about a sample size

1029
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: and again he's he's had some good throws, but it's

1030
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 5: like you're talking about us like ten reps.

1031
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 4: You know one of those guys that said, you know, drafting,

1032
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: you know, multiple quarterbacks is good business. You sort of

1033
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: you develop and you can never have too much. I

1034
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 4: would think that you are very encouraged by the early returns,

1035
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 4: Like he looks like physically worth. It was worth the

1036
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 4: six round pick and all that stuff, and you know

1037
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: there might be something there. I just would caution to

1038
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 4: if we're going to take it from that too, don't

1039
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: be surprised if he ends up winning a starting job. Yeah,

1040
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 4: Like I think there's an enormous gap between those two mindsets.

1041
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're definitely developing him, asking him to switch positions

1042
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: and all. Like some of the stuff that they people

1043
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: talked about pre draft I think is off the table.

1044
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: Like he should develop as a quarterback. No doubt he's

1045
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: a he's an NFL backup quarterback, I think, just based

1046
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: off of what we've seen. But to Paul's point, is

1047
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: he a starter, Like that's probably pushing it right now,

1048
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: But does he belong on an NFL roster at this

1049
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: time of year as a quarterback.

1050
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just can't. I have no idea what he is.

1051
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 5: Like I need to see him in a game situation

1052
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 5: where he can execute plays and get the play and you.

1053
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: Know, like I have no idea if he plays him

1054
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: in college, so like heacy, Yeah, and decision making.

1055
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 4: It's more the decision making, Okay, that's the stuff in

1056
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 4: games like this, like out here, it's it's a little

1057
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: bit hidden with especially in seven on seven. It's so

1058
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: like there was like there was one play that so

1059
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: this This guy sent me a bunch of stuff. He's

1060
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: obviously a huge Tennessee fan, and he heard our original

1061
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 4: argument about this, and he was like, I, you know,

1062
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: you was so right, blah blah blah. He showed me

1063
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 4: a clip. It was three seconds left in the game,

1064
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 4: from like the twenty three yard line and they were

1065
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: down four and he sort of got flushed out of

1066
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 4: the pocket. He's trying to buy time. He's running to

1067
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: the sideline and he's you know, running like this that,

1068
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: and he's then he started running down the sideline like

1069
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 4: half speed, like not like clearly like and then he

1070
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 4: got to like the fifteen or the twelve and he

1071
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 4: just ducked out of bounce like the clock ran out,

1072
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 4: like you know, like I can understand like a brain cramp,

1073
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 4: like you shouldn't try to run, but like if you

1074
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 4: do try to run, I'm going full speed trying to

1075
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 4: get in the end zone, you know. Like it was

1076
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 4: like he thought of the situational awareness and I and

1077
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 4: game And this guy said, now again, this is where

1078
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 4: we don't all watch every play, every drive of Tennessee Volunteers.

1079
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 3: Football their offense.

1080
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 4: This guy was telling me that was sort of indicative

1081
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 4: of the way he played, like no feel for the game.

1082
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 4: Decisions were would would you know, lacking all the time. Now,

1083
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 4: maybe this guy just didn't like Joe Milton, you know

1084
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 4: who knows.

1085
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: But that those are the to your point, like those

1086
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 3: are the people that watch Tennessee like we I always

1087
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 3: used to argue with the North Carolina football fans about

1088
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 3: Drake May like those people watch it for them to

1089
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 3: win the football game, whereas like when scouts watch these guys,

1090
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 3: they're they're looking for the traits, like, yes, it would

1091
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 3: be great they draft a quarterback that has the trades

1092
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: and won in college, But the most important thing is

1093
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: the traits, so like, from a scouting perspective, Joe Milton

1094
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense to take him, you know,

1095
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: as a draft pick. But to the Tennessee fans, it's like,

1096
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: you know, we had this game, and we had that game.

1097
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 3: We had this game where we had chances to win

1098
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: and he just couldn't get us over the top, or

1099
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 3: he made a mistake like that or whatever. And that's

1100
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: what you hear from the people that actually that watch it,

1101
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: Like we watched the.

1102
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 4: Patriots consistency, Like he would come out and have a

1103
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 4: great drive and then maybe the next drive he'd look

1104
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: like he's never really been the starting quarterback before, you know,

1105
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 4: and it just kind of went in and out of games, cause,

1106
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 4: I let's face it, the secs on all the time,

1107
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 4: you know, it was like that that three thirty CBS

1108
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 4: game all the time, see with SEC games, and you'd

1109
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: see him and you'd be like, this guy is unbelievable.

1110
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: And then you'd look up and it'd be like they'd

1111
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: have ten points in the fourth quarter and you're like,

1112
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: what happened? Like it looks so good at the beginning.

1113
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 5: Kind of connected to this, do you think we've seen less? Uh,

1114
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 5: situational like down in distance kind of like I don't

1115
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 5: really remember a lot of like string try to string

1116
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 5: and drive together st to you know, two minute stuff

1117
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 5: like it's all been very like we're middle of the

1118
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 5: field and play play play.

1119
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: It's not.

1120
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: It's some down in distance, but not the way that

1121
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 4: Bill used to do.

1122
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 5: It, where it was yeah, like there was just throwing

1123
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 5: situations at you or trying to string drives together.

1124
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 4: And that's because the sticks have been out there and

1125
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 4: they've had like whatever on the clock. They really haven't

1126
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 4: done too many And that's where I.

1127
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 5: Think you need to see Milton to really believe that

1128
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 5: he's going to make any kind of a push, Like

1129
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, you need to see him

1130
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 5: get more than just one set of mop up wraps

1131
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 5: every practice, like until he starts to actually look like

1132
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 5: he's involved in even the conversation. Because every practice we've

1133
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 5: seen so far as wins, it's so clear that they

1134
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 5: are looking at Jacoby Brissett and Drake may As getting

1135
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 5: the top reps and and really drilling those guys and

1136
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 5: all right, your turns out be like there's just no

1137
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 5: indication at all from the I know.

1138
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 4: A word that would describe my surprise if Joe Milton

1139
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 4: was the weak one starter. Oh, I don't know if

1140
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: there's a word that would describe that. I mean, based

1141
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 4: on what I've seen.

1142
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 5: Through times running out.

1143
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wonder how much the impact that these

1144
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: West Coast coaches, like West Coast Offense, like, not that

1145
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: they're from California, like West Coast offense coaches have on

1146
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: the script of practice, because those guys just like to

1147
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: run plays like they don't really they're just looking to

1148
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 3: run the perfect play and it's play and then it's

1149
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: re huddle, what did you do wrong?

1150
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 4: What did you do right?

1151
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: Play like? And they're they're not necessarily looking at it

1152
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: like Bill used to structure practice like it was a game.

1153
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care for this style. I don't think

1154
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 4: they've got enough plays.

1155
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: In Yeah, these coaches are are big on how it's

1156
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: drawn up on the whiteboard. We want to get as

1157
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: close to that as we possibly can in practice, and

1158
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 3: we're just going to keep drilling it almost like it

1159
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: doesn't matter where on the field they are, you know,

1160
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: like it really the field position aspect of it does

1161
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 3: doesn't really even matter.

1162
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 4: Example of today, very you know, late in the practice

1163
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 4: when they were finally wrapping up the team, so they

1164
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 4: had they had Brissett go out run one play and

1165
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 4: then they huddled. You know, they rushed to the line

1166
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: and they clearly were designed they wanted to see if

1167
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 4: they could get the defense. You know, maybe it was

1168
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: a third and short and they're deciding whether or not,

1169
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 4: you know, we're going to go for it a fourth down.

1170
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 4: We're going to try to draw the defense outside and

1171
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 4: if we don't, well we'll just take the penalty of

1172
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 4: call time out. Right. Then they did the same thing

1173
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 4: with may He ran one play, did the same thing,

1174
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 4: trying to draw the defense offside. Like I don't think

1175
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 4: they've run enough plays to get to that kind of

1176
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 4: situational stuff yet, you know what I mean. And I'm

1177
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: not saying like you shouldn't work on that. You absolutely

1178
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 4: need to work on that. Build it all the time.

1179
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 4: But it was, you know, in the span of I

1180
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 4: felt like the team periods were like ten plays, not

1181
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: like four or five plays like they were. So like people,

1182
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 4: there's been a lot made of there's more competitive periods

1183
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 4: in these practice. I don't think there's any difference, And.

1184
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 5: Those practices speak more to me and just than my

1185
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 5: like limited football playing, like that's what football is. It's

1186
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 5: just like you don't really have a sense settle down

1187
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 5: now we're all gonna make the play. Like it's like

1188
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 5: oh god, you know, all right, what back back or

1189
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 5: what are you doing? You know, like it's that like

1190
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 5: getting the information, knowing the situation, how much times left,

1191
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 5: where the ball is, what you know?

1192
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 4: All that there yet.

1193
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely hear a lot about these practices though,

1194
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: and that they're kind of a slog you know, like

1195
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 3: a old Mike McCarthy. Green Bay practice is just yeah,

1196
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 3: it just that's how they run. Practice is a little

1197
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: bit different. And their offense is so predicated on window

1198
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: dressing and everything looking the same on early downs, like

1199
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: your run plays should marry up to your play actions

1200
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 3: and the defense shouldn't be able to tell the difference

1201
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: in the first couple of steps of the play. And

1202
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: that takes a lot of repetition. It's all muscle memory

1203
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. And the way that

1204
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: they do that is is the way we've seen practice.

1205
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: Let's see Wand from Monterey does not like the Godshaw contract.

1206
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: He says he doesn't impact the passing game. Plus he's

1207
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: on the older side. I believe that a third or

1208
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: fourth round pick could do eighty percent of the job

1209
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 2: that he does stopping the run.

1210
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: So I feel like I hear what he's saying. But

1211
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 3: I also think that in recent years that mindset has

1212
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 3: gotten them into trouble because they've drafted guys thinking we'll

1213
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: just get eighty percent of this player with our third

1214
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: round pick, and it's Marte Mapu and he can't get

1215
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 3: on the field, and you know that it doesn't work out.

1216
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: So you can sit here and say, yeah, they could

1217
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: have drafted a defensive tackle in the draft and replaced

1218
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: Devon Godshaw that way, But what if he's not as

1219
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: good as von Godshaw and there was a string there

1220
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: where Bill was on fire? It was hit you know,

1221
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: he he would trade Richard Seymour or whatever, Chandler Jones,

1222
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: and he would just draft somebody and get seventy five

1223
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 3: percent of the player. But then when when you stop

1224
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: doing that, all of a sudden, the talent on the

1225
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 3: roster just starts to fade away.

1226
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say that you had decisions to I

1227
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 4: don't think they had anybody. I mean, I'm not a

1228
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 4: huge godscha guy you know, and people know that. Although

1229
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 4: I do like the way he's kind of handled his

1230
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: situation as comparative comparatively to Judon, they don't really have

1231
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 4: a guy that's a run stuffer right now that I

1232
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 4: would say like, oh, well, that's that's the guy like

1233
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 4: maybe Watts like did that in Pittsburgh. I don't know

1234
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 4: enough about him to know. You know, they let Lawrence

1235
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 4: guy go, so I don't think Sam Roberts is that

1236
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 4: kind of guy. I don't think they have like a

1237
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 4: younger guy.

1238
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1239
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: Those guys I don't think are going to give you

1240
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 4: seventy five percent of Godshaw. I also don't think it's

1241
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 4: it's it's it's a really big contract. I think they

1242
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 4: gave him a little bit to wet his beak. I

1243
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 4: don't think the same kind of percentage wise, I don't

1244
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 4: think the same would would satisfy Judon.

1245
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: He got like sixteen million guaranteed.

1246
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 4: Right, but it's also it's a little more this year,

1247
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 4: and then the rest of the guaranteed next year, like

1248
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: the second year or the extension is probably not going

1249
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 4: to come to fruition. It's not guaranteed. So he's got

1250
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: a little guaranteed money for this year and next he

1251
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 4: was gonna make seven and a half. I think it's

1252
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 4: probably going to be closer to like ten, and then

1253
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 4: he gets the rest next year and then that's gonna

1254
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 4: be it. Yeah, and I don't really think they have

1255
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 4: a guy that stops the run like he does. It's good.

1256
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 5: I think you put it really well, Paul. It's like

1257
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 5: they didn't rely have a choice. Like it's just, you know,

1258
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 5: there's nobody really out there the drop off, especially with

1259
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 5: bar Moore Barbore being tested, you know, like that helped him.

1260
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 4: And kind of backed him into a corner. And now

1261
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 4: what are you gonna do?

1262
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 5: You know, I mean teacher wise Is is a solid player,

1263
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 5: but you know, you think you can run at him. Yeah,

1264
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 5: we usually could, and that's kind of been his thing.

1265
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 5: So especially with that guy, I just think they had to.

1266
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 5: I think you've described it perfectly. It's it's not a

1267
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 5: big deal. I think he's a good player in the

1268
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 5: middle of me. He plays sixty percent of the snaps.

1269
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 5: He's been really healthy. I don't think he's missed a

1270
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 5: single game since he's been here. So, you know, though,

1271
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 5: you take those things into consideration, and he's gonna do

1272
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 5: what he does. It's an important piece, but you know,

1273
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 5: I think I just don't think they really had a choice.

1274
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: Bai five to five past five hundred is the ACE

1275
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: ticket hotline. Web radio at page dot com is then

1276
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: email address. Let's hit the phones. Patty's an agalam. What's up?

1277
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 8: Patty?

1278
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 6: What's OK?

1279
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 8: Hey?

1280
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: You hear me better? Yeah? We can hear you, all right.

1281
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 6: I just got a question for Freddie and a question

1282
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 6: for Paul or for the more esteemed gentleman on the show, Freddy,

1283
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 6: who's taken over for the pregame and postgame duties this year.

1284
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: Oh, we got a special surprise for everybody. People are

1285
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: gonna love it. We'll, we'll, We'll keep it under wraps

1286
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: until Thursday. So for what pregame postgame question earlier?

1287
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 6: Since it is still technically the off season, I just

1288
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 6: wanted to get your guys opinion on what your favorite

1289
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 6: eighties song was like, like a typical eighties eighties I

1290
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 6: don't mind mine. I Oh, I think you would like

1291
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 6: my picture because it has Philip Bailey, but Philip Bailey and.

1292
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: Phil Collins Lover, Easy, Lover, good song.

1293
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 6: Just to shout out to Travis in West Virginia. Keeps

1294
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 6: the singers coming. Buddy, I love him.

1295
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: That's all I got got, all right, thanks Patty.

1296
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 4: Favorite eighties song is tough, Yeah, I get tough for me.

1297
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: I don't know like which decade different songs are. I

1298
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: know songs that I like, but I can tell them, Oh,

1299
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: that's a seventies or an eighties song. I get confused.

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Speaker 3: Heart's on Fire, rocky Floor.

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Speaker 5: That's right to the soundtrack for that hour.

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Speaker 4: I just knew it's from the eighties because he had

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00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: that's already.

1304
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: I think that's eighties or.

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00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 4: No idea survivor.

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00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: The eighties was a weird decade for music because you

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00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: were coming off disco, right yeah, and you got into

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: a lot of like punk.

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00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 4: Rock grunk, like weird grund chippy stuff like as in

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 4: the early nineties was like you know, pearl jam all.

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00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: Right, right, So it was kind of a bridge year,

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00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: a bridge decade for music if you ask me.

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Speaker 3: Eighty five Rocky four nailed.

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Speaker 5: Myself. I mean I had the tiger probably in my

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Speaker 5: running just because I mean, as a kid do so

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00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 5: that was It's hard not to get psyched when.

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Speaker 2: That would help to term my volume up.

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Speaker 4: John Cafferty, John Cafferty was hearts on fire. I feel

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Speaker 4: like I I would have lost a lot of money.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I think that's exactly what I was gonna say too.

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Speaker 4: I think I would have lost a lot of money

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 4: on that.

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00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 5: That the here's a good one.

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Speaker 4: I did like John Caffy who was polosed.

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Speaker 5: On the Rocky four album. What's the name of the

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00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,479
Speaker 5: guy who did like the like while they're boxing that music?

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 4: Like all that?

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00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 5: The compositions that Vince da Coola.

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Speaker 2: I had the tape. I know, how do you?

1330
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 4: I had the tape I was waiting for. You know,

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00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 4: we did a project with him.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: I love my student film.

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00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: I love the Tiger student film. I would never did Besmidge.

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Speaker 3: I have the Tiger but ready to fly Now it

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00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 3: might be better?

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00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, I had that too on them on

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00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 5: my workout mixing.

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00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 3: It might be better.

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00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you should have had my fifth grade middle school

1341
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 5: band play hous Let's.

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Speaker 2: Get back to the phones. Noah's in Toronto. What's up, Noah?

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Speaker 9: I guys, I just had a quick question about the

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01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 9: guy shot. Yeah, he's kind, he's uh a PFF.

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01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 10: Really doesn't like him.

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01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 9: He's like one hundred second playing superior defender last year

1347
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 9: and contrast.

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Speaker 6: Like we know Belichick really liked him.

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Speaker 9: I was wondering if you guys have any insights on

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01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 9: like what's the discrepancy there is there's stuff he's doing

1351
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 9: like PFF wouldn't be capturing or something than.

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01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 3: Well I think PFF. You know, you're grading out defensive

1353
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: lineman like in a like in a vacuum of like

1354
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: almost like Madden ratings right where you know pass rush

1355
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: is going to be more important in the fact that

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01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: he doesn't play a lot in the passing game, it

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01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 3: doesn't put a lot of pressure on quarterbacks, is gonna

1358
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: knock him. And you also have to look at production

1359
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 3: and like he plays in a two gapping system where

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01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 3: he's a nose tackle, so like he's not gonna have TFLs,

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01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 3: he's not gonna have stuffs like he's that's not going

1362
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: to be those of volume stats are not going to

1363
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 3: count up.

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01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: So don't count that.

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01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Yeah, they say that they're grading the

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01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 3: film and everything, but they're they signed a lot of

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01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 3: grades to production based stuff.

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 5: I mean, Will was never a favorite.

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01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: As I've argued with them before about this with some

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01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: of my friends over there and I'm just like, but guys, like,

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01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 3: you're saying that so and so, you know, Dante high Tower.

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01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 3: I remember this. You're saying that Dante high Tower is

1373
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 3: having a bad season, and I could not be further

1374
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 3: from the truth, And like, so where's the disconnect here?

1375
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: And a lot of it had to do with, you know,

1376
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: they don't give him a plus for blowing up a

1377
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 3: guard and you know and letting somebody else make the

1378
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: tackle right, you know, whereas when you're watching the film,

1379
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 3: the coaches here are saying Dante high Tower did his

1380
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: job right, you know, So that that's that's the big

1381
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: description to.

1382
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: Sure argued about that. We're not argued, but lamented about

1383
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,479
Speaker 2: that for years. Todd's in North Carolina. What's up, Todd?

1384
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, can you hear me the time?

1385
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1386
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 6: So I got a quick thing. I want one guy

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01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 6: that you've been pleasantly surprised by and one guy's just

1388
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 6: a little bit disappointed in from each of you. Thank

1389
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 6: that's pretty okay.

1390
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: Thanks, one guy pleasantly surprised, one guy a little disappointed.

1391
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 5: Putting some thought into this one, Yeah, I haven't really

1392
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 5: I wish I mean, I mean, it was an opportunity

1393
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 5: to say I wish I was pleasantly surprised by Kean White.

1394
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 5: I know some people have written that he's doing great

1395
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 5: in camp. I haven't seen yet. I'd love to see it,

1396
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 5: so I don't know what that makes him. But I'll

1397
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 5: just use this chance to say I wish I could

1398
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 5: say him right now. Some people probably would say him disappointing.

1399
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 4: I don't want to take the cheese. I talked to

1400
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 4: both thora. Maybe he's a pleasant surprise. I haven't really

1401
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: been overly disappointed. I mean, maybe if you poke me

1402
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,959
Speaker 4: up to a lie detector, I would have to admit

1403
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 4: I'm a little disappoint it in May, but I'm not.

1404
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 4: I'm not really overly surprised. I thought he was twenty one,

1405
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 4: and you know he's gonna need some time to develop. Yeah,

1406
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 4: Mapo's it's just disappointing.

1407
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 5: He's hurt again. I mean, that's a disappointment.

1408
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: Would have liked to see him, a little surprised with.

1409
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 5: Rager done nothing since Pat's Yeah, I'll throw I'll throw

1410
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 5: one out there. Actually that I don't. I just and

1411
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 5: he's on the fringe right now. But I'm just kind

1412
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 5: of intrigued a little bit as Jamichael Hasty of you know,

1413
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 5: just here and there he's going to make the hand.

1414
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know, I just I'm not gonna,

1415
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 5: you know, say he's gonna be the next superstar or anything.

1416
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 5: But you know, just one of those guys that and

1417
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 5: the same thing with Terrell Jenny's kid who just was hurt.

1418
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 5: But just watching him move a little bit, you know,

1419
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 5: I think there's a there's a spot there. Just guys

1420
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 5: I like to see in the preseason, you know, and

1421
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 5: see if they have anty chease. I mean, I know

1422
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 5: Hasty he's played a little bit in the league, so

1423
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 5: you know, he's not a total jump but guys that

1424
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 5: maybe could we get a spot. He's he's had a

1425
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 5: little bit of juice, he's gotten some reps, you know,

1426
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 5: with with some of these groups.

1427
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 4: That you know, maybe the him and his guy looks like, yeah,

1428
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 4: a little it might make a roster. I had someone

1429
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 4: sort of talk to me a little bit about him

1430
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 4: that he's one of those he looks like he's one

1431
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 4: of those guys that's playing a little bit harder than

1432
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 4: everybody else. You know, those guys. It wasn't my observation,

1433
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, but it wasn't it was from the

1434
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 4: Norward all tent.

1435
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, pleasantly surprised. I would just say that the starting

1436
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: offensive line as a whole, Like, I just don't think

1437
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 3: it's been a train wreck. Yeah, I'm not saying that

1438
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: there they've been elite or anything like that, but based

1439
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: off of the last couple camps that we've seen where

1440
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 3: there's guys running through the line all the time, I

1441
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 3: don't feel like it's been that way.

1442
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 2: To me.

1443
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 4: That's health. Yeah, Like these guys have been out there

1444
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 4: every day, you know, we Andrews missed a couple of

1445
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 4: days obviously, but for the most part, they've had their

1446
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 4: top call it eight nine guys minus Cole Strange. Yeah,

1447
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: you know, and they've been out there every you know,

1448
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: every day. Last year when the season started, they had

1449
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 4: to frantically find Tyrone Wheatley in Vederian Lowe off the

1450
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 4: scrap peak because Calvin Anderson and was gone for the

1451
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: entirety of camp. They had no where I mean, they

1452
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 4: didn't even have Connor McDermott, remember, Yeah, like are they

1453
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 4: had nowhere to turn? They had all these guys were hurt.

1454
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 4: This year, Evan's right, it's not been anything like, yeah,

1455
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 4: And I also just.

1456
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: Like shout out to my guy, Scott Peters, like I

1457
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: feel like Scott Peters. I'm he's He's growing on me,

1458
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 3: not that I didn't like him to begin with.

1459
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 5: Every time I look at him, shoulders for day.

1460
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: If you pump him up too much, you'll be a

1461
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: head coach.

1462
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: Next Yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic about him. And I think

1463
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 3: the one thing that really stands out to me is

1464
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 3: you see a little bit of things with each guy

1465
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 3: that has gotten better from either last season in the

1466
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 3: NFL or college. You know, in the case of Cayden Wallace,

1467
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 3: like City Show looks much better in pass protection than

1468
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 3: he did at times last year. And I think Cayden Wallace,

1469
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 3: a lot of his technique, things that people talked about

1470
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: in the draft, are already starting to show some signs

1471
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 3: of improvement. So I give a lot of credit to

1472
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 3: him and Coogler too. You know, I think those guys

1473
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: know what they're doing with the offensive line, which which

1474
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 3: helps a lot.

1475
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 5: To Freddy Cougler, Robert Robert Robbie.

1476
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 4: Speaking of the offensive line, Dan Copen was in the house.

1477
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 3: Down the Davis all right, the strike system works.

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: What betting platform is he working for now?

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01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 4: I just said hello, I didn't like kidding. I didn't

1480
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 4: get into it.

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Speaker 2: There's so many of them, everybody. That's all the all right,

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Speaker 12: It's good to be uh, It's good to be out here.

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Speaker 12: I'm scared to have the players back in the building.

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 12: Yesterday we gave them the day off. I know a

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Speaker 12: and things like that. But just so you guys know,

1513
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 12: my philosophy and our philosophy is to keep as much

1514
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 12: internal as possible. Had a great meeting with Judon and

1515
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 12: we're all moving forward. I remember as a player, it's

1516
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 12: always a difficult time, right, It's always a difficult time

1517
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 12: when you go through contract negotiations and things like that.

1518
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 8: And saying that for the rest of the team, like

1519
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 8: we're pushing forward.

1520
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 12: Fully expect Matthew to be out here today and participate

1521
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 12: in practice, but we're looking forward to getting better out

1522
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 12: here today, and honestly, we're a week away from playing football.

1523
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 12: I'm kind of excited to watch the Hall of Fame

1524
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 12: game tonight, so the guys are ready to come out

1525
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 12: here and compete.

1526
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 5: To look on what happened out here on Monday.

1527
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 12: With I'll tell you this, you know, first time head coaching,

1528
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 12: first time in past. I always remember what happened that

1529
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 12: day and saying that, you know, look, we had a conversation.

1530
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 12: I have a great relationship with Matthew, have a great

1531
01:08:58,800 --> 01:08:59,839
Speaker 12: relationship with the players.

1532
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 8: But we're moving forward and we're trying to look up.

1533
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 10: I know you can't get into specifics, but how would

1534
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 10: you characterize that conversation with met.

1535
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 12: It was good, it was healthy, and I always encourage

1536
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 12: those guys to come in and speak with me or

1537
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 12: speak with Elliott, and that's what it is, and those

1538
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 12: things should happen inside of the walls.

1539
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 8: It also must feel good to be able to get

1540
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 8: some kind of closure with with the Buds.

1541
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 12: Oh absolutely, Look, I mean there was that was a

1542
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 12: long process, but I'm glad we got we got that

1543
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 12: deal finished. And once again it goes to the point of,

1544
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 12: you know, we want to sign players that we know

1545
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 12: that still have good ball.

1546
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 13: Being an ex player and having gone through situations where

1547
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 13: contracts and negotiations it just.

1548
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 8: Helped a lot.

1549
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 12: And in saying that, I will say each each situation

1550
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 12: is unique to itself, and so we can sit here

1551
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 12: and say, you know, you should do this or do that.

1552
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 12: There are all different situations. But like I said earlier,

1553
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 12: I feel good about where we are right now. I

1554
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 12: feel good about the way uh the players are are

1555
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 12: operating out here on the field. I feel good about

1556
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 12: the way Elliott and his staff are going to you know,

1557
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 12: about this stuff because obviously he's very heavily involved.

1558
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 8: So we're in a good place.

1559
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 4: On Tuesday, Matthew wasn't here at practice.

1560
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 6: Find what happened Monday.

1561
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,759
Speaker 4: There was a report also that wasn't at the facility.

1562
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 4: Was that team driven and was he find it all?

1563
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 8: I'm not ready to talk about that right now.

1564
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 12: What I will say is we gave the guys that

1565
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 12: day off yesterday to come out here today and be energized,

1566
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 12: and once again we fully expect every player to come

1567
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 12: out here and participate and get better.

1568
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 8: You keep things in house.

1569
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,799
Speaker 13: It was a report yesterday there have been a contract

1570
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 13: offered and his Twitter account, which says he does or

1571
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 13: does not run immediately disputed that and said they're trying

1572
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 13: to make me look bad again. Is that something that's

1573
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 13: been addressed, because it seems like that keeps pushing things

1574
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 13: into the forefront again.

1575
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, for me and for Elliott as well.

1576
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 12: Look, those are internal conversations, and you know, once again,

1577
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 12: we always think about these as long term relationships. Whether

1578
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 12: we sign a player to an extension, whether we sign

1579
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 12: a player off the street, whether we release a player,

1580
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 12: these are long term relationships and that's something that I've

1581
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 12: always take taken great pride in all of those things aside.

1582
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 12: I mean, look, at some point in time, you'll talk

1583
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 12: to Matthew, but right now, we just want to keep

1584
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 12: that in the house from our perspective.

1585
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 4: What about what Devon got shaw, well, went into the

1586
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 4: team's decision to give him a new contract.

1587
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 8: Well, the thing about Gosha, you's a huge piece of

1588
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 8: what we do.

1589
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 12: I don't look, it's never a well, at least for

1590
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 12: me at least, it has never been just a clean

1591
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 12: process of all right, you want a deal, here's a deal.

1592
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 8: All right, we're done.

1593
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 12: And so this was a little bit more extensive. But

1594
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 12: I'm happy to have him here. I'm happy to have

1595
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 12: h Devon here, happy, right and ready to go.

1596
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 8: So it's good.

1597
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 10: Did the way he's carried himself in training camp have

1598
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 10: to do it all with getting that deal done where

1599
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,839
Speaker 10: he's out here participating every day even though he's unhappy

1600
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 10: with that contract.

1601
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:34,560
Speaker 8: That is our philosophy.

1602
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 12: And once again, this isn't unique to the New England

1603
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 12: Patriots as far as guys wanting a new contract. But

1604
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 12: he handled it like a professional in the classroom. Out

1605
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 12: here on the field, he was out here full pass,

1606
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 12: participating everything. And uh that that definitely helps.

1607
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 8: That's not definitely one what exchange.

1608
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 7: But did Christian situation play into maybe a sense of

1609
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 7: urgency when it came to get intout.

1610
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 12: Honestly, those are two different type of players, you know.

1611
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 12: The one thing about having DG back, he does provide

1612
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 12: some stability up front. Now I'm saying that, you know,

1613
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,839
Speaker 12: my committee will have to try and replace the production

1614
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 12: of Christian And honestly, you know, just talking about Christian,

1615
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 12: I've had a couple of conversations with him.

1616
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 8: He's in good spirits. It's one of those things that

1617
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 8: you really can't control. But you know, when he's ready

1618
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 8: to go, he'll be here. Is there any intestation that

1619
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 8: he will be ready to go this season at all?

1620
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 12: Or honestly, I'm not sure that I'll leave that to

1621
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 12: the medical professionals. I'm really not sure. I'm just happy

1622
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 12: that he's doing the best.

1623
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 2: What have you observed from him?

1624
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 12: Yeah, so I'll tell you this, I've always I've been

1625
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 12: a huge fan of Pope, you know, since scouting, you know,

1626
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 12: scouting all those other players, and you know, he's just

1627
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,560
Speaker 12: one of those guys like when he puts the pads on,

1628
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 12: he's that much better. He does the dirty work. He

1629
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 12: also can run, you know, great, rouse has great hands.

1630
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 12: He's one of those just all around players that you

1631
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 12: want to build your team around. And I would also

1632
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 12: say he does flash some leadership ability, which I definitely

1633
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 12: appreciate it.

1634
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 4: How much do you appreciate guys from your perspective that

1635
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 4: keeps showing up on film every day when you go

1636
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 4: back and look at the practice film.

1637
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 12: Yeah, they're definitely guys that are showing up. And really,

1638
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 12: you know two phases like this counts special teams as well,

1639
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 12: and it's good to see those guys get better.

1640
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 8: And I told you guys.

1641
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 12: This are my press or that I'm in the business

1642
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 12: of developing men, developing good men before good players. But

1643
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 12: if we want to win games, we have to have

1644
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 12: good players. And it's exciting to see guys like Ox

1645
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 12: take that step forward. You know, those guys are doing

1646
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,480
Speaker 12: a good job just getting better and contributing.

1647
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 8: Said earlier in camp about Drake.

1648
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 3: Will be ups and downs, and I feel like the

1649
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: first two days of Pad's the worst.

1650
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 8: Some you know, a little bit of a roller coaster.

1651
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 8: Question is what did you learn about Drake? You know,

1652
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 8: during after those two practices, Let's let's rewind a little bit.

1653
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 12: And you know, I got this feeling when we met

1654
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 12: with Drake and Carolina, just this overall mental toughness and competitiveness,

1655
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 12: and he understands that it's not always going to be

1656
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 12: it's not always going to be clean. I will say this,

1657
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 12: He's handled it very well. Now I know that the

1658
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 12: players will enjoy working with them, and he's a competitor coach.

1659
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 8: It comes to captains, I think decided how you go about.

1660
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 12: Ornan Org just so the same way it's I think

1661
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 12: it's always important to allow their peers to vote on

1662
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 12: captains out you know, I don't want to do with it.

1663
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 12: I know him in my head who I think the

1664
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 12: leaders of the team are. Hopefully that marries up with

1665
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 12: what the players say, but I think the peers should

1666
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 12: have the opportunity to vote on on their captains. One

1667
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 12: thing I will say on that, I've never been a

1668
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 12: huge fan of having you know, ten captains or eight

1669
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 12: captains or anything like that. Uh you know, I don't

1670
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 12: know what that number looks like, but it will be up.

1671
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 8: To the players. Dredge the eposent question. You're now starting

1672
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 8: your second week here training. Do you feel like your

1673
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 8: team is where you want them to be right now?

1674
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 12: Look, we have to realize we have to get better

1675
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 12: each and every day, even when we go through the

1676
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 12: regular season like where we are week one should not

1677
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 12: be where we are and we gain.

1678
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 8: And that's the approach that we're taking.

1679
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 5: Going back to Drake, you know you see us up here,

1680
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,919
Speaker 5: or maybe you don't vote charting every pass.

1681
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 8: Every completion, every incompletion.

1682
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 5: I mean, is it fair to say just that you know,

1683
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 5: he's battling through a little bit here a couple of days,

1684
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 5: that maybe we're tough for him.

1685
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 8: You know, I would say I would say, all the

1686
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 8: rookies are battling through things.

1687
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 12: You know, it's a different scheme, it's a different you know,

1688
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 12: state for you know, there's so much change for these guys.

1689
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 12: But what you want to see as those guys, you know,

1690
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 12: go through adversity, you want to see him handle it

1691
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 12: the right way. Like you don't want to see the

1692
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 12: explosions on the sideline. You don't want to see any

1693
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 12: of that. It's all about the next page and turning

1694
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 12: the page.

1695
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 4: That's right.

1696
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 8: Question. There's been a lot of talk, you know, because

1697
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 8: maybe some of these struggles early on.

1698
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 3: What would be your message to people just about maybe

1699
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 3: those early struggles because he.

1700
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 8: Is a rookie.

1701
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 12: You know, Look, look, people are going to have their opinions.

1702
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 12: I would say the opinions inside of the four walls

1703
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 12: matter most. And I would say the people inside the

1704
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 12: four walls know what they're talking about, and so you.

1705
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 6: Can take that for what it is.

1706
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 8: We all support Drake. We all know what it's like

1707
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 8: to be a rookie in this league.

1708
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 12: Not you guys obviously, but I know what it's like

1709
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 12: to be a rookie and it's not all peaches and cream.

1710
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 12: You probably remember this San Francisco, my rookie year. You know,

1711
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 12: I got benched on third down. I only played early

1712
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 12: downs because I just wasn't ready. And that was like

1713
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 12: week ten, right, it was like week ten, week eleven.

1714
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 12: But it was a wake up call for me to

1715
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 12: get benched. And you know from there on I was

1716
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 12: going and I was Rookie of the year. Still got benched.

1717
01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 12: So whatever we want to talk about with Drake, there

1718
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 12: will be up and downs. Hopefully it ends on up.

1719
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 8: Guys considered giving.

1720
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 11: Great some reps with like the top offensive grouping that

1721
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 11: Jacoby's been with, just to see what he can do

1722
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 11: with those guys.

1723
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 12: Like you guys said, it's a second week of training camp.

1724
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 12: We have a game here a week from now. He'll

1725
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 12: have an opportunity to go out there and participate with

1726
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 12: if you want to call him the ones, the ones,

1727
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 12: but we mix a match.

1728
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Speaker 8: Thanks. I thought you guys are going to be harder

1729
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 8: and that when.

1730
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 7: Someone accidentally threw the school play costumes, no replacements were

1731
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 7: shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, everyone

1732
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 7: could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where now

1733
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 7: it's next for residential delivery.

1734
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 4: Only and now great moments in.

1735
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 2: History, no one was worth a big hit.

1736
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 10: He was.

1737
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 5: He was.

1738
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 4: He had also didn't wait till the break. As soon

1739
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 4: as the food arrived, he would just shut his microphone off,

1740
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 4: move it away, and start eating. But I mean seriously, yea,

1741
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 4: he'd be done before the break started.

1742
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 14: He'd actually sentence in an argument with Fred and and

1743
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 14: if the producer would come in with the food, he

1744
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 14: would stop what he was doing.

1745
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be.

1746
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 14: Arguing, you know, passionately about something and it would just

1747
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 14: like drop everything and Tred be like, you can't.

1748
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 2: Even have like the producer go down because you know

1749
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 2: they'd have the media meal, so you know, just make

1750
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 2: us a plate. So he'd come back with like maybe

1751
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 2: six or seven sandwiches, and the moment he put it

1752
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: down to the table, they like just just jump on high.

1753
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 5: Metabolism.

1754
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 4: Guy just always eating, always eating, but he has always eating.

1755
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 8: But he always work out.

1756
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1757
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he ever slows down in his workout, he's

1758
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 2: gonna balloon. The rest of his body will catch up

1759
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 2: to his head.

1760
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 4: That's another great moment from.

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01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: All right back here and Patri's Unfiltered A five to

1762
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 2: five past five hundred is the A Sticket Hotline Web

1763
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 2: radio at patries dot com is the email address.

1764
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 4: No more food and well you change the studio. It's

1765
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 4: not conduc so for it.

1766
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh stop it. You just eat the food. Eat food.

1767
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: Had my lunch.

1768
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Evan eight, he went over there and you

1769
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 2: stood up. I did a grab and go before I

1770
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 2: came down grabbing. I just ran through the draft kings

1771
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 2: thing and grabbed a couple playing with mini chicken salad sandwiches.

1772
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: I did so fast they didn't even see.

1773
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 4: It pays to be at the executive level. I went

1774
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 4: so fast, Like, would you say, did you wait thirty minutes?

1775
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 4: I figured if I before swimming?

1776
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 2: I figured if I kept moving, no one would catch me.

1777
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 4: It's like it's like swimming. H yeah, you have to

1778
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 4: wait thirty minutes.

1779
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 5: Even watching some swimming. You watch any swim lives, I've

1780
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 5: been watching a lot of it.

1781
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 3: I actually love the swimming. That's I think my I've

1782
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 3: decided is my favorite.

1783
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: Those swimmers against Lea DECI you're still swimming.

1784
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,799
Speaker 4: Can you imagine? Like she has the twenty fastest times

1785
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 4: ever recorded in the fifteen hundred. Yeah, like her twenty

1786
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 4: her twentieth best day is better than anyone's ever done. It.

1787
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 4: Her lungs must be like credible, like she's a big

1788
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 4: smoker cigarettes that the world.

1789
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 5: Record them out.

1790
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 3: Dominance one another gold medal just like literally just now.

1791
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 4: Miles spoiling my stories tonight in the all Around all Around, Yeah,

1792
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 4: he's spoiling my stories.

1793
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 3: Have you watched Gold Zone yet?

1794
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 4: No, I was watching. I've been watching, like I I

1795
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 4: watched every night a little bit. I know, mostly when

1796
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 4: I'm watching what you know, what the results were, but

1797
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 4: there's still fun to watch.

1798
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 3: You watched like the night like.

1799
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: Features certain things.

1800
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 5: I saw North Korea women's won like a like a

1801
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 5: sink diving thing, and it was like the first time.

1802
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 5: I was like, I didn't even realize No Korea was

1803
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 5: in the Olympics, like you know, it was.

1804
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 2: Their first the first time it was North.

1805
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 4: Korea, North Korea.

1806
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 2: I didn't know that either.

1807
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I watched a decent amount yesterday. I watched

1808
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 3: the basketball game. Obviously it's good.

1809
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see Joey from I think Texas right said, yeah,

1810
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: he is, how you doing? He says, Let's hope Drake

1811
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: May isn't a twenty twenty four draft. May stake, oh Brissette,

1812
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: Zappi and Milton are not franchise quarterbacks. And let's hope

1813
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: Drake turns it around soon. He's got soon in capital letters,

1814
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 2: we need to turn football back in New England. Need

1815
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 2: better practices.

1816
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 4: I got one guy saying that the two practices the

1817
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 4: next two days are make or break. Now.

1818
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 5: Now we've got a listener saying we need to turn

1819
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 5: this crap around soon. Sound practice on Saturday, Paul, I'm out.

1820
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 5: I'm out, just going to go do something else.

1821
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 4: I think Evan and I should just spend the whole

1822
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 4: practice on Saturday needling you, like, what do you think

1823
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 4: might in completely pass?

1824
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 5: Then?

1825
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 3: Do you see that?

1826
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 5: I guess I guess like selfishly though for me, like

1827
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 5: this is these are the last couple probably super fun practices,

1828
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 5: the joint practice, but otherwise we don't get to watch

1829
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 5: practice again, like this is kind of it, you.

1830
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: Know, and those.

1831
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 3: Down so we get the whole Eagles week too. Yeah,

1832
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 3: well one practice, No, it's multiple that week.

1833
01:20:58,720 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 4: It's Monday Tuesday.

1834
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's only watching one practice.

1835
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 4: Right Tuesday we get and then we think we might get.

1836
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 4: My guess is after the Eagles game, leading into the

1837
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 4: Washington game, we'll get We'll get practices that we can see.

1838
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, Yeah, that wouldn't be open to the public,

1839
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 3: right because those are so like when we came back

1840
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 3: from Green Bay last year and those Tennessee practices that

1841
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 3: didn't happen, but they happened here. We the media gets

1842
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 3: to go to those, but the they're closed to the public.

1843
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 3: But we still got to watch those practices. So you

1844
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: get to watch all the way through the third preseason game.

1845
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 4: So one thing, you know that and I'm not a

1846
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 4: huge like we got to go to practice, you know,

1847
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 4: you know Capital J journalists, I demand my presence, Like,

1848
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 4: but it is kind of like lousy that you have

1849
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 4: a third overall pick quarterback who probably isn't going to

1850
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 4: start at least right away, and you don't get a

1851
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 4: chance to watch practice once the preseason ends to sort

1852
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 4: of see how he's developing. You know, like do you

1853
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 4: watch him in week eight and say, Wow, he's much

1854
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 4: better than he wasn't training camp? You know you don't

1855
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 4: get to see that, right, Yeah.

1856
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I do. I do wonder and this

1857
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 3: is coming from somebody that this is my bread and

1858
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 3: butter training camp, but I do wonder if it's like

1859
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 3: if we need to be there at every single practice

1860
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 3: this time of year, Like, I just don't know if

1861
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 3: it's necessarily does I don't know if it necessarily is

1862
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 3: a great for the team.

1863
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh listen, I five is the coaches.

1864
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 4: I'd rather have no one at Well, totally understand why

1865
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 4: coaches don't want to.

1866
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 3: See in pockets, But what happens is that you end

1867
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 3: up going on this training camp roller coaster of one

1868
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 3: day's good, one day's bad, one day's good, one day's bad,

1869
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 3: and like none of it really means anything, whereas like

1870
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: in OTAs and stuff, where we just get that the

1871
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 3: one snapshot here, one snapshot there, like you don't necessarily

1872
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 3: see like what Paul is talking about the progress. But

1873
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 3: then you come back a week later and it's like, oh,

1874
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 3: it looks a little better if you look at it.

1875
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: From the league standpoint. Look at all the volume of

1876
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,759
Speaker 2: content that comes out from each team, each rapport throughout

1877
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 2: training camp because they've got the access.

1878
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, it's from a professional standpoint, a sight

1879
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 3: out of mind.

1880
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah you know.

1881
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, and every every sport you know does it. Yeah,

1882
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,440
Speaker 4: you know, every sport allows you to cover the preseason.

1883
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see. That reminds me. You you said the

1884
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: Capital J journalism. It reminded me of a story that

1885
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: came out and we've talked about it before. But I

1886
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: guess the NFL p A is now coming up with

1887
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 2: proposals about no reporters in the locker room. I mean,

1888
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 2: we've talked about that before.

1889
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 4: They're trying to take the reporters out.

1890
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: Of and come up with another way to do those interviews,

1891
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 2: but just not in the locker.

1892
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 5: Room after after games, are you know team drinks. Yeah,

1893
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 5: I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.

1894
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 3: I agree with the privacy aspect of it, but when

1895
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 3: you go into the locker room, you know, don a Wednesday,

1896
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 3: and you just kind of get to bop around and

1897
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: like check in with four or five players, not necessarily

1898
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 3: even like an on the record interview, but that's just

1899
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 3: like how you start to get to know the guy

1900
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 3: so that when it comes to asking questions on the record,

1901
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 3: they're you're not asking a stranger, you know the question,

1902
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 3: And I just I wonder how you recreate that, Yeah,

1903
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 3: without being in the locker I.

1904
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: Think during the week is I think to me, during

1905
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 2: the week is more problematic because that's when like you said,

1906
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 2: you form those relationships after game. Maybe instead of the

1907
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 2: players going right to the locker room, you have you know,

1908
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 2: a fifteen minute period after the game where the players

1909
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 2: have to stay out of the field and you do

1910
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: them right there.

1911
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 4: Well, I will say that one of the things the

1912
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 4: way they do training camp now, like they make you know,

1913
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 4: a half dozen guys available every day and they put

1914
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 4: them at the podiums. It is a tough way to cover,

1915
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 4: you know, thank you COVID. You know, it's a tough

1916
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 4: way to do it. The way like I used to like,

1917
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 4: the old way is they would have you ask them

1918
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 4: right who you want, who you want, and you know

1919
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 4: you would put it. But you also could talk to

1920
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 4: a player coming off the field. You could go up

1921
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 4: to a guy and say, hey, David Andrews, you know

1922
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 4: you got a second, and if he didn't, if he

1923
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 4: didn't want to talk, he would say no, Just like

1924
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 4: in the locker room, if he went up to a

1925
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 4: guy at his locker and ask him if he had

1926
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 4: a minute, he might say no, I'll catch you tomorrow

1927
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 4: or whatever. I like that better because I don't really

1928
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 4: necessarily feel like you get anything out of anybody when

1929
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 4: there's fifty of his closest friends, you know, asking questions

1930
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 4: like if you're going to talk to someone and get

1931
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 4: anything out of them, you got to have a small group.

1932
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 4: You gotta have the ability to do it on your own.

1933
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've often said, like I kind of think

1934
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 2: the locker room should be their sanctuary. And you know

1935
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 2: I I and we have another way.

1936
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be opposed to that,

1937
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 4: But there's got to be some kind of way that

1938
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 4: you have a chance to talk to anybody you want,

1939
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 4: not just the guys they make of available.

1940
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 5: And informally, like you got to force them to hang

1941
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 5: out with you.

1942
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like to Paul's point, and I know most

1943
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 3: people are listening to this like they don't care. I'm

1944
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 3: sorry that your job is not as fun as it

1945
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,080
Speaker 3: used to be. But you know, to Paul's point, like

1946
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 3: when you used to be able to just pull guys

1947
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 3: coming off the field, like it wasn't like you weren't

1948
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 3: walking off to Tom Brady and saying, you know, hey,

1949
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 3: like you know what what did how is practice today?

1950
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 3: But it was you know, some of the guys usually

1951
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 3: that were like fighting for roster spots or on the

1952
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 3: bubble or rookies or whatever, and then you got an

1953
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 3: opportunity to say, hey, what happened on this player that

1954
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 3: play that happened in practice today, Whereas when they get

1955
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: up to the podium, it's like structured, you know, and

1956
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 3: you feel a little bit more limit.

1957
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 5: Everyone writes the same thing now off of you know

1958
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 5: what the right you know, whatever a good SoundBite is.

1959
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:43,600
Speaker 5: Everybody's like and there it is.

1960
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 4: And you know, to your point, Fred, like, you know,

1961
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 4: the NFL probably loves this because you got all this

1962
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 4: glot of coverage, but it's all the same, right, you know,

1963
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,719
Speaker 4: And the NFL doesn't care because it's just the volume

1964
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 4: that they care about. But I just think it's sort

1965
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 4: of unfortunate that there's nothing really there's nothing really different.

1966
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can like put in requests to talk

1967
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 3: to players, but you can put in the request before practice.

1968
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 3: So it's like, well, if so and so has a

1969
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 3: great practice, like that changes now who I would want

1970
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 3: to talk to after practice, Whereas if the guy I

1971
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 3: requested in the morning is doesn't even practice, then that

1972
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 3: doesn't mean no good.

1973
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know. I just thought i'd bring

1974
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: that up because that's interesting. I mean read that a

1975
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: couple of days ago.

1976
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just hard as it feels like no matter

1977
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 5: what whatever, the you know, replacement for that is is

1978
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 5: going to be a waste of the player's time in

1979
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,799
Speaker 5: their mind that they're going to have to go somewhere

1980
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 5: and hang out.

1981
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 4: I don't think they'll do it that way. I think

1982
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 4: that the the result. And I understand Fred, and you

1983
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 4: and I feel the same way about the locker room.

1984
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 4: You and I have never felt really great about being

1985
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 4: in the locker room, right, I agree, But I think

1986
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 4: the result is going to be you're gonna get coverage

1987
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 4: the way training camp is. They're gonna they're going to

1988
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 4: make a half dozen or so players available every day,

1989
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 4: and that's what you get.

1990
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and you know, then there's the other issue.

1991
01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 2: Everything's about equality these days, and you know, as what's say,

1992
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 2: women's hockey and women's soccer pro soccer becomes big, more

1993
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: people will start covering it, and some of them will

1994
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:08,600
Speaker 2: be men. Are you know a lot of men in

1995
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 2: their locker rooms?

1996
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1997
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 2: Probably not so.

1998
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 4: I did cover a women's beam pot one year, one

1999
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 4: hundred years ago, and yeah, no, like they you would

2000
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 4: stand outside the locker room and you you know, you

2001
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 4: have to bring players out to you. You do not

2002
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 4: go in the lot.

2003
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot of athletes, So why is that anything?

2004
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: Why do I have to, you know, make sure that

2005
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 2: I'm dressed or you know, uh after a game like so,

2006
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.

2007
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 5: A lot of people them just don't care, you.

2008
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 2: Know, a lot of them.

2009
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 4: But I would be too.

2010
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: I'd never put my shirt on if I look like that.

2011
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 5: Alex in Somerset was not the shirt I'm worried about,

2012
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 5: Dann Skipper.

2013
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm looking at you, Patriots missiles. Alex in Somerset watching

2014
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: pokes highlights in college, he remind me a lot of

2015
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: Brandon Mafel. Big doesn't create a ton of separation. It's

2016
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 2: seemingly a clutch player. Do you guys see any similarities

2017
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 2: in his game to la Fel? And if he does

2018
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: end up having a career that Mary's Lafel, would you

2019
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 2: be happy with that?

2020
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 4: I see some similarities, and you know, I do see

2021
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 4: someone in the know what all tent actually made that comparison.

2022
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 4: I do see some similarities.

2023
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 3: And then I don't remember with Brandon, you know, this

2024
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 3: was I was a little young and at that point.

2025
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 3: But he was an outside guy, right, He was.

2026
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 4: More of an outside guy than this, but like sort

2027
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 4: of like a good drive starter kind of guy. Right, Yeah,

2028
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 4: we'll go, you know, hard play action on first and

2029
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 4: ten from our twenty and he's gonna he's gonna run

2030
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 4: a quick out or a quick game for eleven.

2031
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 3: Right here we go, drive star, right, Yeah, I remember

2032
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 3: those types of plays and then obviously the playing against Baltimore,

2033
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 3: you know, in the playoffs, but like those were outside,

2034
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 3: like those are perimeter.

2035
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 4: He was more of an outside guy.

2036
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that first touchdown against Seattle in Super Bowl forty nine.

2037
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 3: And that's, oh yeah, that's kind of good one.

2038
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 5: Too, you know, But I see the similarities as you're saying.

2039
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 5: But I think Polk is going to be more of

2040
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 5: an interior guy, and I think the hope is that

2041
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 5: he just has a little bit more wiggle than you know,

2042
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 5: fell kind of tall stiff. I mean, I don't I'm

2043
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 5: not saying that Polk isn't.

2044
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 4: A little stiff too, but yeah, I would be disappointed

2045
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 4: if that's all we ends up being.

2046
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 5: No me too for sure.

2047
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,799
Speaker 2: Ready for some trivia, okay, and it will be wonderful.

2048
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 2: Enrique from Monterey has some and looks like these are

2049
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 2: mostly a lot of them will have to do with

2050
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 2: playoffs with Super Bowl, but not all of them anyway.

2051
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 2: First one, there are don't look, dude, I'm not looking.

2052
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 4: They don't even look at him.

2053
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 2: There are only three teams that have reached the Super

2054
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 2: Bowl three years in a row. Buffalo and New England

2055
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 2: are two of those. Who's the other one?

2056
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 4: Miami correct seventy one, seven.

2057
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 2: Before my time, since nineteen thirty six, the first.

2058
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 4: Ever drafts before my time too. But you just kind

2059
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 4: of know. Yeah, I don't know if you guys know,

2060
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 4: but in seventeen seventy six, before my time, we won

2061
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 4: our independence on hundred years before. Okay, I wasn't there,

2062
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:02,959
Speaker 4: I wasn't born.

2063
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 2: Weren't Hamilton, You weren't in the room, but.

2064
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 4: People told us. You know, people have read about it.

2065
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 2: Since nineteen thirty six, the first ever draft. There are

2066
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 2: only three teams that have never had the worst record

2067
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL, thus never had picked number one overall,

2068
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 2: which are Greenburg.

2069
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh's one of them.

2070
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,440
Speaker 2: I think Green Bay is incorrect.

2071
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:22,839
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh.

2072
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 4: I think Terry. I think Terry Bradshaw is the first correct.

2073
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 2: Damn three teams have never had the worst record in

2074
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 2: the NFL.

2075
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 4: You can just but I have no idea.

2076
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 2: Baltimore, Seattle and Denver.

2077
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 3: Seattle was believable. Okay, Seattle's a little surprising. They haven't

2078
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 3: been around that.

2079
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, they haven't been around it.

2080
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Rick Meyer was two three.

2081
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 2: Who was the last black place kicker in the NFL?

2082
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 5: Who the guy from the Raiders?

2083
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 4: That's a punter, Donald, That is correct?

2084
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I just threw that out.

2085
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 3: Wow, the punter.

2086
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,839
Speaker 2: What is the NFL team in history to the playoffs

2087
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 2: seven consecutive years without reaching the conference championship game?

2088
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 4: Someone made the playoffs seven consecutive years without winning, went

2089
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 4: out reaching the championship.

2090
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 3: I did not know.

2091
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 2: I'll give you a hint.

2092
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need a hint.

2093
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 2: The name of the team no longer exists.

2094
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 4: Oilers.

2095
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 5: That's correct, run sho.

2096
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 2: Finally, time two teams that played each other in the

2097
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl was their first appearance for both teams. So

2098
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 2: two teams and it was their first appearance that played

2099
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 2: each other.

2100
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 5: These are really good questions.

2101
01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 3: These are these are hard?

2102
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 2: It's like, so is this like when was the last time,

2103
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 2: So last time, the last right, okay, because obviously when

2104
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 2: the Super Bowls start right right.

2105
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 4: Right, right right right.

2106
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 5: The lab Baltimore in two thousand.

2107
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 2: I think you've got to go back further, go back further.

2108
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 2: The last time.

2109
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 4: Chicago, New England.

2110
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct.

2111
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,560
Speaker 5: Wow, good questions in ry K.

2112
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, in England.

2113
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 2: There's some trivia, good stuff in Rique. Thank you.

2114
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 4: It was the last time both teams made their first appearance. Wow,

2115
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 4: that's a long time ago. Eighty five.

2116
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Super thirty one, is that what it was?

2117
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it had to be both teams.

2118
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 4: Now, I was twenty, It's my my senior year of

2119
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 4: high school. Bro.

2120
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 3: So you were there for that one.

2121
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 2: I was there.

2122
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 4: I was there for that one.

2123
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 3: That was all ed. I was at the fish the

2124
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,439
Speaker 3: fumble on the first play of the game.

2125
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 4: ZIP and they never scored again. It was so fifty

2126
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 4: six ten right, forty six.

2127
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 5: I'm said, I just still remember the energy. I mean

2128
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 5: even as a kid, I was like ten years old,

2129
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 5: but it was just the whole town was like crazy

2130
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 5: for the Patriots. They made like a music video like

2131
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 5: I don't know how my dad got it might have

2132
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 5: been through Rebok, but it was like a touchy feely

2133
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 5: so that's what friends are for. And it was all

2134
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 5: like all kinds of like slow motion locker room footage

2135
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 5: of like you know, we made the X.

2136
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 4: It was the era of the cheesy video.

2137
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 5: Patriots.

2138
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 4: Then we we're the best in the AFC.

2139
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 3: I'm so glad we've come from I waved rather than

2140
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 3: to do that.

2141
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 5: No, we're we're gonna all sing a song as the

2142
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,679
Speaker 5: media for the team going to the Super Bowl.

2143
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,759
Speaker 3: I'm very glad that we had super.

2144
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 2: That was good. Back back then we thought, now you

2145
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 2: look at.

2146
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 4: It, Oh that was good. There's cheesy video, but the

2147
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 4: song was good.

2148
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 5: It would have gone viral today. That would have been

2149
01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 5: like a TikTok like craze.

2150
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,000
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, you gotta do right.

2151
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 3: You have a little lot of little NFL news. Justin

2152
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 3: Herbert Planter fascia in his foot.

2153
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 4: That's a big injury. Do we mention the defensive lineman

2154
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 4: that we signed on the air, Mike Mike Purcell.

2155
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sign Mike Purcell. Yeah, veteran guy, but according.

2156
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 5: To his agency, big dog. I mean, I just say

2157
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 5: I'm surprised. I thought when you said defensive lineman, I

2158
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 5: anticipated maybe a lighter guy two ninety a kind of upfield,

2159
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 5: you know. Bar Moore asked, now that you've secured uh, gotcha,

2160
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 5: But he's more like a big fatty like gotcha you know.

2161
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's who spent I guess, say twenty seventeen. Yeah,

2162
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 4: on the practice practice squad here.

2163
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 5: It's even kind of kicking around. I think it was

2164
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 5: Denver last year.

2165
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if like in their base front. Yeah, I

2167
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 3: was doing this yesterday when they resigned. God or they

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01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 3: send a gotcha, yeah, gotsha the nose. You have Dietrich

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01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 3: Wise at one of the three four ends, and then

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01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 3: Barmore would have been at the other spot. And now

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01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 3: it's like, is it Keon White He's probably a little

2172
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 3: undersize for that. Is it Jeremiah Farms, like you know,

2173
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 3: Watts a quality? Maybe this is one of those guys

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01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 3: that's like more like a Lawrence guys.

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01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 4: So there it is. There it starts. Patriots play the Chargers. Yeah,

2176
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 4: there's one backup.

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01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 5: Oh shoot, you said Justin Herbert. I heard for some

2178
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 5: reason I went in my head justin Fields for some

2179
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:16,799
Speaker 5: reason now Herbert.

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01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 3: But they're saying that he should be ready for they're

2181
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 3: gonna shut him down obviously, and you should be ready

2182
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 3: for the start of regular season. But that's typically an

2183
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 3: injury that lingers. Yeah, that's a tough one.

2184
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 5: And now, was that like something that kind of develops

2185
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,000
Speaker 5: or is that a sudden traumatic?

2186
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 3: It's a stress it's a stress injury. Yeah, that's what achill. No,

2187
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 3: it's in your foot, like in the inside of your foot,

2188
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 3: usually inside of the foot usually, but I think it

2189
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 3: can be. Yeah, I'm not a doctor.

2190
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 5: When I fell down the steal like that one too.

2191
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the ace ticket outline eight five

2192
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 2: to five past five hundred. Anthony's in Toronto. What's up, Anthony?

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01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 10: Hey, guys a long time listen.

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01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 6: They're like they're time caller.

2195
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,759
Speaker 2: I think, okay, I just wanted to say.

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01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 10: Thank you and appreciate you guys.

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01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:06,560
Speaker 6: You guys absolutely kill it.

2198
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 10: I feel like you don't get enough recognition.

2199
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 4: So well that's true for money.

2200
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 10: Obviously, this show has changed a lot, you know, going

2201
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 10: from Andy and Eric and you know, Kevin and the

2202
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 10: Booth to the team now, which is significantly better. Let's rated,

2203
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 10: are you know one of the accent off and that.

2204
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 2: Kind of thing.

2205
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:23,879
Speaker 6: So I just want to again, want to say, appreciate

2206
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 6: you guys, and quick question.

2207
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 10: Obviously, you know we kind of have like our top

2208
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 10: four receivers, you know, Born, Baker, Polk and Douglass they're

2209
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 10: going to make the roster and then it looks like

2210
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 10: we're probably gonna keep stick.

2211
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 6: So of the other three guys who right.

2212
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 10: Now based off training him, do you guys think we're

2213
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 10: going to keep out of Juju Osbourne and then take

2214
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 10: one man?

2215
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 5: I keep forgetting about it.

2216
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 4: Is probably gonna stay, although I don't think he's had

2217
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 4: a great camp, but I think he I think he'll stay.

2218
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 4: Thornton is the guy that I think has been showing

2219
01:37:55,600 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 4: up more so than Booty Rager Juju. I think Jordon

2220
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 4: has showing up more than those guys. And I think

2221
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 4: I kind of look at that group is maybe fighting

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01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 4: for a spot or two.

2223
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I see those three guys right now. For me,

2224
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:12,200
Speaker 5: it's it's it's Osbourne, Rager and Thornton as like the

2225
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 5: last three for two spots.

2226
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 2: And I just I think I think everything's new. When

2227
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 2: you're making those decisions, do you ask the.

2228
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 5: Quarterback set and may like who do probably kind of

2229
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 5: get inut?

2230
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 3: Maybe? Yeah, I think that you know, with the OZ.

2231
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 3: That's dangerous probably a little bit, especially for Drake because

2232
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 3: like he's probably gonna favor the young guys, you know,

2233
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 3: like you know, I like the rookies, like the guys

2234
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 3: I've been here with me since May. But I think

2235
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 3: that the kJ Osborne to me, is probably gonna make

2236
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 3: the team. And you gotta have some experience in that

2237
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 3: room if you go all young and it's really just

2238
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,560
Speaker 3: Kendrick Bourne, that's the one veteran. And early on in

2239
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 3: the season, as much as we all want to see

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01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 3: Polkin Baker, there's a chance that they might roll you know,

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01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 3: Born if he's healthy, Osborne pop, you know, and ease

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01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 3: the rookies into it a little bit more so, I

2243
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 3: say him and right now Taekwon. I think Taekwan has

2244
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 3: been been better, But it depends on how much they

2245
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 3: put stock into the return game, like if they feel

2246
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 3: like Rager's return ability is more important than than it

2247
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 3: could be.

2248
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 4: Same.

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01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 5: It's just interested in Booty and Rager because I mix

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01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 5: them up a lot, just you know, when you quick

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01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 5: glance and that Booty Rager they look kind of similar

2252
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 5: to me. They play both on the outside. I think

2253
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 5: they both you know, had a couple of moments, but

2254
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 5: they just they seem to be getting a lot of reps.

2255
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 5: That's you know that they're getting a long look at

2256
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 5: both of those guys. I just I think guys like

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01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 5: Booty though, need to make some plays here coming up

2258
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 5: over the next couple of weeks.

2259
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see. Corey writes in he says, do you

2260
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 2: guys see match On signing a multi million dollar contract

2261
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 2: with the team when it's all said and done.

2262
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 5: No, I mean I think I mean one year. I

2263
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:50,560
Speaker 5: mean I think give them a sweetener this year. I

2264
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 5: think that's a great question though. I mean it's did

2265
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 5: they go into next year. I mean, I think we're

2266
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,479
Speaker 5: all in the mind of, like, pay him this year

2267
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 5: and then next year you move on. I don't really

2268
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 5: want to do the void years and all that stuff.

2269
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 5: I don't see a multi million dollar multi year extension

2270
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 5: where it makes Matthew Judah on a Patriot for four

2271
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 5: I don't see that. It's one or two years.

2272
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 4: I think it's yeah, And I don't mind the void

2273
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 4: year stuff. I just don't think they'll do it. I

2274
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 4: don't think they need to do it. I think he

2275
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:16,120
Speaker 4: just needs more money for this year.

2276
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather tack on real years to it. That

2277
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,639
Speaker 3: gives you team control to maybe trade him at some point.

2278
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 2: What if that's the sticking point, What if he wants

2279
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 2: a little longer term security.

2280
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,559
Speaker 3: I'd probably sign him for one more year, like if

2281
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 3: they want to do yeah, just to have that control

2282
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 3: where you know, trade deadline, offseason whatever. If they do

2283
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 3: want to then look to move him, then they have

2284
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 3: some term with him to be able to take right yea, yeah,

2285
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 3: Jasper and Maine.

2286
01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 2: First off, just want to thank Paul for helping me

2287
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 2: become a better person.

2288
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 4: That's starting to get.

2289
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 2: So my silly off season question is who do you

2290
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 2: think of the roster or former player as well? Is

2291
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 2: the best example of nominative determinism? That is, who has

2292
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 2: a name that sounds perfect for the position they play?

2293
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: For example, High Tower had a perfect linebacker name.

2294
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 4: So who's my quick wide receiver, right, Rodney Harrison. I

2295
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 4: don't know if there's an example of that perfect name anybody.

2296
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 2: This guy must be a running.

2297
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 8: Back or what.

2298
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like Vince will fork because like

2299
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 3: a forklift and like he was, you know, this big,

2300
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 3: gigantic guy in the middle of the defense. I always

2301
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 3: felt like Will Fork like was fitting that he was

2302
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 3: a big, strong dude. But I don't have a great

2303
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 3: one for that.

2304
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:45,560
Speaker 2: John Hannah, you know you spell the same way frontwards

2305
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 2: as backwards and just solid player.

2306
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 5: It's a palindrome, Hannah.

2307
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 4: It's a palindrome that made him good.

2308
01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 5: I don't know who else, how many other players in

2309
01:41:58,439 --> 01:41:59,879
Speaker 5: the league of palindromes, Paul.

2310
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 2: If your speed, if you made the Colts like nowadays,

2311
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 2: like if you if you're a quarterback that has a

2312
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 2: lot of swagger and your name is Joe, that makes

2313
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 2: sense name if Joe Burrow, you know that's a that's

2314
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 2: a cool quarterback name.

2315
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 3: Put in Joe Burrow and Joe Montana conversation.

2316
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:23,560
Speaker 4: What the hatred of Joe Burrow is?

2317
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,480
Speaker 5: Just it's the eminem it oozes.

2318
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 3: Like maybe, you know, maybe maybe do something before we crown,

2319
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 3: just saying.

2320
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,679
Speaker 2: But no one else comes to mind.

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01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 4: No for this team.

2322
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, for this team, I don't know.

2323
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 4: We don't have any.

2324
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 3: The coolest name on the roster of still Chambers Steel

2325
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 3: Chambers definitely.

2326
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2327
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 3: I he's gonna make the team.

2328
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 5: Cold Strange, that's pretty name. But do you think col

2329
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 5: Strange has any chance again this job that, yes, but

2330
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 5: it's if he was healthy. Yeah, just coming up like

2331
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 5: he's he's gonna be for a while. He's gonna come

2332
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 5: mid season and you think.

2333
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 4: Like it might be a lost year for him from

2334
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 4: a physical standpoint, But yeah, I think he'd have every opportunity.

2335
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 3: To I think there's a chance that if he came

2336
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 3: back and was that full strength, that on when it

2337
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 3: would go to right tackle and I guess maybe that

2338
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 3: that would create that. But I feel pretty good about

2339
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 3: City David Andrews and on the inside, and I almost

2340
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,560
Speaker 3: don't want to mess with it. And I don't know,

2341
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 3: I don't know where col Strange would fit in. But

2342
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 3: if they just wanted to get him back on the

2343
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:29,720
Speaker 3: field because they used the first round pick on him

2344
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago and that whole thing, I

2345
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 3: would assume that would be the configuration to make it work.

2346
01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 3: You're not going to put any of those guys on

2347
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 3: the bench unless they're not playing. You know, Citi's not

2348
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 3: playing well, which I don't think is going to happen.

2349
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 5: His offensive line like one of the hardest positions to

2350
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 5: decide that in season though, where you don't really have

2351
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 5: like real live competition to evaluate guys, like you don't

2352
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 5: mean to evaluate guard plays solely off of in season practices.

2353
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 3: Just you'd have to be like, this is a guy

2354
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 3: that we're putting him back in, Like it's one of

2355
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 3: the obvious.

2356
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 4: When Logan Mankins held out that year and he missed

2357
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 4: the first nine games, I mean, he didn't miss a

2358
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 4: snap when he was eligible to return. Remember when he

2359
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 4: came back, immediately went in the lineup. Yeah, but that's

2360
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 4: I'm not telling you cold strangers Logan Mankins Like.

2361
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 5: Well, it's just because cold strange doesn't really have great size,

2362
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, he certainly moves like pretty well,

2363
01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 5: and he's an athletic guy, but.

2364
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:21,839
Speaker 4: You know, just he might be a better fit than practice.

2365
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 2: Maybe Rob's in South Carolina, he's on the ace ticket

2366
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 2: hut line. What's up? Rob?

2367
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 8: Me?

2368
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 12: Everybody?

2369
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 8: How what were you doing?

2370
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 2: Good?

2371
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 8: Good?

2372
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 15: Paul, it's just kind of for you, So not trying

2373
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:40,679
Speaker 15: to start an argument. Just want to understand. I don't

2374
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 15: think i've heard you explain why you'd rather address quarterback

2375
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 15: first and then the rest of the roster, Because personally,

2376
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 15: I thought May was a mistake this year. I thought

2377
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 15: they should have gone tackle at receiver and then gone

2378
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 15: for quarterbacks later. Why do you think the opposite is true?

2379
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 4: And I'll I got off here, thank you, Okay, Yeah,

2380
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 4: I mean it's certainly to each his own. It's I

2381
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 4: don't necessarily think like you need to get the quarterback first.

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01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 4: I'm not anti get the quarterback first. A lot of

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01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 4: people are. They don't think, you know, there was an

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01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 4: argument to be made throughout this pre draft process this

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01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:23,600
Speaker 4: year that they don't have the roster to support a

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01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 4: young quarterback. So don't waste your time if you don't

2387
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,439
Speaker 4: think Drake may Is is good enough for the third

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01:45:29,479 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 4: overall pick, by all means take a wide receiver, take

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01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 4: a tackle. If you do think he's good enough for

2390
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 4: the third overall pick, I think you need to take

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01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 4: the quarterback. I felt may was good enough. But if

2392
01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 4: if Elliott Wolf didn't think he was good enough, then

2393
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,559
Speaker 4: he made a mistake, right right, Like, I don't think

2394
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 4: it's because of philosophy.

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01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 2: Like the pick and he's going to be good.

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01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 4: I think quarterback is so hard, and this is why

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01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 4: I don't like the idea of just blanket statement he

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01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 4: needs to sit for a year. Maybe, Like I think

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01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 4: you need to play to find out if you can play,

2400
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 4: find out how you develop, how long it's going to take,

2401
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 4: and figure out what you need to do around him

2402
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 4: and suit his skill set as opposed to we're going

2403
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 4: to take a tackle with a third overall pick. Okay,

2404
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:22,559
Speaker 4: so now we have Joe Thomas in place, and who

2405
01:46:22,640 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 4: knows what we're going to be in position to get.

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01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 4: You know, maybe next year you have another top five pick,

2407
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 4: but there's no quarterback worth taking in the top five, right,

2408
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 4: That's what's going to happen.

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01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 8: You know.

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01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, with three years out

2411
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 4: from this rebuilding process, and we still don't have a quarterback, right,

2412
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 4: And that's sort of why it's to me, it's all

2413
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,719
Speaker 4: dependent on the players available. What was the other Kenny

2414
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 4: Pickett was twenty two?

2415
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 3: Twenty two?

2416
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 4: If there was that year, I would have been right

2417
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 4: on board with the caller. I would have said, take

2418
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,759
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison, take take Joe Walt.

2419
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,640
Speaker 5: Especially Paul like some of the I think you did

2420
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 5: your study there of just the quarterbacks that get taken

2421
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 5: in the top five, and if you have a chance

2422
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,600
Speaker 5: in a year where there are three quarterback worthy of

2423
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 5: the top three picks, that you kind of have to

2424
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 5: take it. And I go back to watching the Giants

2425
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:08,639
Speaker 5: and hard to you could see how much they were like, yeah,

2426
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:10,560
Speaker 5: we're gonna kind of give Daniel Jones another chance, but

2427
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 5: if we could get to Drake May, we'd probably just

2428
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 5: go get him rather than taking neighbors, right.

2429
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 4: And I like, again, if it was a year like

2430
01:47:18,760 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 4: twenty two, when they weren't really first round quarterback values,

2431
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 4: I would never say, like you got to take a

2432
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 4: quarterack because you got get the quarterback first. I would say,

2433
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 4: you know, find the best player and take him, and

2434
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 4: then you got to keep you keep hoping.

2435
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 2: That's the hardest thing.

2436
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they had a guy that was

2437
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:38,479
Speaker 4: worth the pick, but see maybe I'm wrong.

2438
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 5: But then you look at twenty twenty one and it

2439
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 5: feels like that's the hardest possible scenario for you to

2440
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 5: be in terms of making this decision, because you had

2441
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,479
Speaker 5: a guy in mac Jones that was he dynamic and

2442
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 5: like third first round talent dripping all of not really,

2443
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 5: but he was the fifth guy and that was where

2444
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 5: they were and that was who they kind of needed,

2445
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 5: and that's what you know, and so it's it's hard

2446
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:56,640
Speaker 5: to say no.

2447
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,799
Speaker 2: One Paul say you always have to take the quarterback.

2448
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 4: I would rather have the quarterback first.

2449
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,640
Speaker 2: I have said that, Well, if the quarterback's there, you

2450
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 2: take it right, right.

2451
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 4: And that's why I would say it. But like again,

2452
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 4: I wouldn't just say take Jake Locker because you've got

2453
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 4: to have a quarterback first, right, you know. I think

2454
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 4: Drake May was worth that selection. Yeah, And it's about evaluation.

2455
01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,559
Speaker 3: I also think your point about looking into future drafts,

2456
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 3: and I know the argument against it is always like

2457
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 3: Jadeen Daniels, like he comes out of nowhere, But if

2458
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 3: you look at next year's quarterback class, you'd be lucky

2459
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 3: to have one prospect that's as good as Caleb Jaden

2460
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 3: Daniels and Drake May were as prospects in this class.

2461
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 3: And that's one quarterback at the very very tippy top

2462
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 3: that every team that needs a quarterback is.

2463
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 4: Going to want.

2464
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 3: So it's one of those situations where you also have

2465
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 3: to look at the market and sort of what's going

2466
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:51,080
Speaker 3: to be available to you. I guess the only like

2467
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:53,639
Speaker 3: counter to that would be if they had gone into

2468
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five and traded the pick for a veteran

2469
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 3: you know, like I guess you could do it that way,

2470
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:02,080
Speaker 3: but you know, I when the quarterback's there, that's just

2471
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 3: business like you do. You don't mess around and start

2472
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 3: taking tackles or trading down.

2473
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 2: Sweet kid writes in, fred I just wanted to say

2474
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 2: I wanted you to know that I love you. That

2475
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 2: Hannah reference made no sense, but you looked at Paul

2476
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 2: directly with that nonsense come out anyway.

2477
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:19,560
Speaker 4: It was beautiful.

2478
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 5: Palindrome.

2479
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 4: It's a palindrome. It's a good player.

2480
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 5: Remember the first time I heard race Car was a palindrome,

2481
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:28,280
Speaker 5: blew my mind.

2482
01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:29,920
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, race Car.

2483
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 3: Okay, it's good one.

2484
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 2: Let's see. Dorian writes in was watching Colin today, I

2485
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 2: assume he meets Colin Coward and the headline was Patriots

2486
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 2: are worried about quarterback room. Has Drake been that bad

2487
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 2: to me? I'm thinking two practices and the sports media,

2488
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 2: already deeming Patriots an offensive disaster confirms they couldn't wait

2489
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 2: for us to be bad post dynasty. They loved dumping

2490
01:49:56,160 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 2: on us Patriots versus the world.

2491
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 4: Oh it was seven practices, but still the point.

2492
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:04,720
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know if it's all that, But Patriots

2493
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 3: worried about quarterback room. Sounds like it's coming from inside

2494
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 3: the building.

2495
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:10,839
Speaker 4: The call is coming from inside the house.

2496
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:13,559
Speaker 3: And nobody inside the building. There's not been a report

2497
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 3: from anybody saying somebody a source is telling me that

2498
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 3: they're worried about where Drake May is at. It's it's

2499
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 3: us and the know it all ten and Ramp that

2500
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:27,720
Speaker 3: are telling you that he's that he's had some difficult practices.

2501
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 3: And so when he says the Patriots are worried, that's

2502
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 3: very misleading from Colin Coward. It is the Patriots are

2503
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 3: not worried about anything. We might be worried because that's

2504
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 3: what we do, right right, I'm worried.

2505
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 2: All right, Well, maybe he watches the show. All right,

2506
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 2: we're going to wrap up a little early. Thanks for watching.

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01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:50,080
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Speaker 2: and then training camp's over.

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Speaker 3: According to Deuce, well.

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01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:02,559
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