1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: Zarin Elizabeth, What's up? How you doing girl? 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 3: I'm good. Hey listen. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: You know it's ridiculous, yes, and not the feather bow 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm wearing. But I wanted to tell you this. In 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: two thousand and four, there was a cookbook by this dude, 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: Brian D. Price, that was published, right, and Price was 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: a former Texas prison inmate, and he was a prison 9 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: chef and he prepared many of the last meals at 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: the prison where he was locked up. So he decided 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: to share his collection of last meal recipes and he 12 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: called his cookbook Meals to Die For. Oh God, right, yeah, right, 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: And I learned apparently this is common. There are a 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: lot of cookbooks and photo essays and academic journals about 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: last meals. Like there was one paper publishing twenty twelve 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: in the journal Appetite. It was all about death row nutrition. 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: And they analyzed two hundred and forty seven last meals 18 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: and they found the average meal came in at about 19 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: twenty seven hundred calories. There were four requests from Texas 20 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: and Oklahoma that all topped seven thousand calories. 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: No surprise, seven twenty seven hundreds more than an. 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: That's like a full day's meal, right, we're eating. Yeah, 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: and then seventy percent of the prisoners they asked for 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: fried foods, Okay, mostly because they're being killed in the South, right. 25 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: Sixteen percent ordered Coca Cola with their last meal. And 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: of the two hundred and forty seven inmates, how many 27 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: wanted diet coke Elizabeth zero three three? 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 29 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: But the most ridiculous part of all this last meals 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: that I looked up to was I found just how 31 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: petty this lone star state can be. In twenty eleven, 32 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: Texas stopped offering condemned inmates a last meal. And why 33 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: would Texas choose to do that? Because of one man, 34 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: just one man, Lauris Russell Brewer. He ordered a huge meal, 35 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: two chicken, fried steaks, a pound of barbecue, and right, 36 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: so he decides not to eat any of it and 37 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: he's just like, throw me in the chair and he 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: let the meal go cold. That pissed off this Texas 39 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: state so much they decided the whole state of Texas like, 40 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: we're not letting good barbecue go to waste again. No 41 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: more last meals? Were anybody ridiculous? 42 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: What that is ridiculous, completely ridiculous Texas. 43 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: Right. 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: I don't know what else is ridiculous. I do an 45 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: eight hundred member heist gang. 46 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: Wait what. 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: This is ridiculous? Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists, 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: one hundred percent ridiculous. Who we I love a good 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: heist there, Yeah, you do who. I've talked about heist 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: teams before, like Hatton Gardens, Cut, Lloyd's of London one. 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: Another good crew. 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: The Great Train. 54 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: Robert the Governor was on both of those, right, Yeah, 55 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: the Great Train Robbie, not the Good. 56 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: Crew at Pierre Hotel. 57 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a lot of cruise. 58 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: Those heist teams were maybe like six to ten people. 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: I think that's a lot because like, the more you have, 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: the more likely it is that someone's going to talk. 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also you don't want that whole clown car 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: effect trying to pile out. 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: And we've talked about the cinematic nature of crimes too. 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: The criminals they like to emulate movies about really spectacular 65 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: heightst I love that heat is a. 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: Huge, one big calling card in the crime world. Apparently, 67 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: point break another good one for me. 68 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: For me, like the stylistic ones, and now the Pink Panther. 69 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: Wait the Clusa. 70 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 3: Path You've seen the pink Have you seen Return of 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: the Pink p I have seen them. 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: All, starting with Shot in the Dark. I love them. 73 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: Just like a recap The Pink Panther. Pink Panther is 74 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: a nineteen sixty four comedy classic about a bumbling French 75 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: detective named Cluso he tries to stop a diamond thief. 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: The pink panther in the film was a gymnast played 77 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: by Julie Christie. She is the jewel thief, right, No, 78 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. The pink panther is the very large 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: pink diamond in the movie. 80 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought David Niven. No wait, oh I thought 81 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: he's known as the pink Panther. No, the panther is 82 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: the gem. You're totally right, and Jullie. 83 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: Christy isn't there. In two thousand and three, I got 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: you so good? 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: You did? 86 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 3: In two thousand and three, thieves pulled off an audacious 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: robbery in London at a store called graph Ah. Okay, 88 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: it's an elite jewelry store. 89 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: I'll take your word for it. 90 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: Yes. Graph says they sell quote the most fabulous jewels 91 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: in the world. Good for you have to say it. 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: Like that, Oprah saying Oprah to each. 93 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: Other Victoria Beckha. They are customers. But also if you 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 3: just say Oprah, you hope that like, you know, cashmere jumpsuit, 95 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: superior your house exactly. 96 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: That's just how I asked for thanks, right, Oprah. 97 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: Oprah. Graph specializes in colored diamonds. They're the ones who 98 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: popularized yellow diamonds, which apparently he used to be considered flawed. 99 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they switched it. 100 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: Now they're like, no, you want like it, We're gonna 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: like we. 102 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: Put a color on it. Yeah for you. This one 103 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: is a chocolate diamond. 104 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that, don't you. At super post jewelry stores, 105 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: they don't make they don't make the security measures overt. 106 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: Everything's really subtle and seamless, or so I'm told, I 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: don't know what I hear. So on that day in 108 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: two thousand and three, a man named Nivoisia Denik. He 109 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: walked into the store, big old serb. 110 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: I was just about to ask. 111 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: So he was wearing a suit, and he was also 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: wearing a big elvis wig as you do, big old 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: pompadoor sitting a skew on the top of his head. 114 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: According to the New Yorker security thought, quote, he was 115 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: a rock star in disguise or a wealthy man suffering 116 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: from a disease. That not the greatest way to be described. 117 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: They're like, what does he look like? Well, I don't know. 118 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: He's either a rockstar in disguise or a rich guy 119 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: with a disease. 120 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 2: Only one of two choices. And this one. 121 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: Scotland yard detective described his wig as quote, it looked 122 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: like a car was lying on his head. It's like, 123 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: what okay, okay, But his suit was immaculate. 124 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: So this explains a lot about British engineering. If you 125 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: take a wig in a car. 126 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, well, and like you realize that he 127 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: looks the part with the with the suit as long 128 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: as it got that. Like I feel like your suit, 129 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: like your clothing or your haircut can convey wealth. Yes, 130 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: like rich people have like really good haircuts. 131 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it always it always looks good, usually shoes and 132 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: haircuts on men, and then for women it's the accessories 133 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: and the hair haircuts. 134 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so this guy he walks in he wants to 135 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: see a twelve carrot diamond ring and the clerk presents 136 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: it to him. 137 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: It's a long daddy. 138 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: It costs four hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, that's 139 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: a big that's a total bigin he's like, you know what, 140 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: this is too glamorous. Show me something smaller, Like, all right, dude. 141 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: So but then he pulls out a gun and he 142 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: orders everyone on the floor. 143 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: No, I said something smaller. 144 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: So another man, Pedrick Vyjosevic, he enters the store and 145 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: he just starts smashing display cases with a hammer. He's 146 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: grabbing jewelry, stuffing it in this bag he has in 147 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: all these two guys they grabbed forty seven pieces worth 148 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: twenty three million pounds. That's a lot. That's in today's money. 149 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: That's forty seven and a half million dollars. I'll take it, yeah, 150 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: right in like five minutes down. So then they run 151 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: off into like the busy Mayfair streets. A security guard 152 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: managed to tackle Nivoisha and pin him down until the 153 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: cops came. Scotland Yard was immediately on the cap. 154 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: Of course. 155 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: They eventually tracked down a man from Montenegro named Milan 156 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: Jovitch as an accomplice to the crime. When they searched 157 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: his flat, one of the detectives saw a jar of 158 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: skin cream in the bathroom. He opened it up, stuck 159 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: his finger in it, took a little taste, stuck his 160 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: finger back. Good stuff, and he felt something and he 161 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: pulled out a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars blue 162 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: diamond ring. Wow, hidden in the cream. 163 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: That's where I had put it. Dude, that's a great call. 164 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Most people wouldn't look there. 165 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: In return of the Pink Panther, thieves hit a diamond 166 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: in a jar of face cream. And that's how the 167 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: Pink Panther Gang got its name. 168 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: Oh, just because of that one because of. 169 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: That one move. Oh so they didn't just find the ring, 170 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: they found blank fake Italian passports, you know, like we 171 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: have blank ones. So apparently Italy was a common pass 172 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: through for criminals from Eastern Europe. Let me give you 173 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: some background, please slowed it on melos of it. 174 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 175 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: Became president of Serbia in nineteen eighty. 176 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: Nine, slow bo big hair. 177 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: Yeah huh. This started an intensely criminal era in all 178 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: ways you can imagine, aside from the ethnic cleansing and murder, 179 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: criminal gangs basically ran the government. 180 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to get my Serbian friend Chris all 181 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 2: the hard time about this. 182 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: Yep, there you go. There were black market cigarettes, gas, electronics, 183 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: anything you could think of. Much of the smuggling went 184 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: by boat via Italy. In January of nineteen ninety four, 185 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: the Bosnian Wars going on. Serbia had been experiencing hyper inflation, 186 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: and that was engineered by Melosovitch. It had been in 187 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: hyperinflation for two years. What was the inflation rate? I 188 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: have no idea three hundred million percent? 189 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: Is that even possible? Just stop counting, right, million? 190 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 3: So this allowed Melosovich to control the Serbian people. They 191 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: had to buy everything on the black market, and that 192 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: was run by the government, which was run by criminals, corruptions, 193 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 3: totally out of control. An entire generation of young men 194 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: had been starved out and exploited by their own government entirely, 195 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: and they had glimpses of what life could be like 196 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: when they see Western Europe. And then they also had 197 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: all this training, either from the government or just from 198 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: life on the street, to be cunning and evasive. So 199 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: when the regime finally collapsed in two thousand and one, 200 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: all these young men and women made their way to 201 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: Italy or France looking for a better life, and they 202 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: were very rarely well received. No one wanted them there. 203 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: So for these people who'd been raised in poverty and 204 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: violence and maybe forced to commit atrocities, they didn't care. 205 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: They didn't care about anything. What were laws? What are rules? Oh? 206 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah care. They're very much existentialists forced into that position. 207 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: Uh huh. And so there's all this wealth for the taking, like, well, 208 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to take you know, that's what they do. 209 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: So back to Scotland Yard and that graph heist, right, 210 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: the police use Milan's phone records to track him down 211 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: to an apartment in Paris that belonged to Pedrick vy Josevic. 212 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: Pedrick was in the wind though, so still the investigation 213 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: pushes on Steve Alexander, a Scotland Yard detective. He met 214 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: up with French detectives who tackled organized crime. These are 215 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: their stories. I don't know if they had juicy booties, 216 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: but they had a really rad name, La Brigade dire 217 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,479 Speaker 3: pasim do bed Detism. 218 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 219 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 3: I didn't say that right, but it's the Brigade for 220 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: the Repression of Bandit Tree. The Brigade for the Repression 221 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: of band Tree. That's the rpb b RB. It's the BRB, yes, okay. 222 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: So they shared their cases and they realized that a 223 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: similar crew seemed to have committed about twenty robberies just 224 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: like the one at graf And when they looked at 225 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: surveillance footage, it looked like Pedrog had been running heists 226 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: in London, Paris, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Geneva, Barcelona. Like they're just 227 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 3: matching him up on all that very much. 228 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: He's the one with the wig, right, the Elvis wig, Yes, Pedrag? 229 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: So no, no, no, that was a different dude. Pedrick 230 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: came in after. Oh, he's the smasher. So police finally 231 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: did capture Pedrig as he was driving to Italy from France. 232 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: He wouldn't talk, obviously, he wouldn't talk about anything. Eighty 233 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: percent of the jewels from that graph heist were never 234 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: recovered eighty percent and Pedrick not cooperating. But it started 235 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: to look like this wasn't the first heist. Back in 236 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: two thousand and one, Pink Panthers robbed a jewelry store 237 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: in the French coastal resort town of beertz Over. Been 238 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: there never been there. I really want to go, though. 239 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: There were so many places that we talk about that 240 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: I want to go. Anyway, they were clever. They coated 241 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: a bench across from the shop in wet paint so 242 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: that people wouldn't see and be witnesses. 243 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: That's really smart. 244 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of like their first big heist. In 245 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 3: December of two thousand and two, a man strolled into 246 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: the Venetian Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. 247 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 248 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: He wore a smart suit and carried himself with confidence. 249 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: Okay. 250 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: He perused the various shops in the Grand Canal shops. 251 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: He stopped at the Bernard K. Passman jewelry store. 252 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: I know what that is, ringing name. 253 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: He went inside and he told the saleswoman that he 254 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: wanted to ask about an item in the window. So 255 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: he guides her by the arm out into the concourse 256 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: to point to a particular piece. As this happens, another 257 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: man entered the star. He's wearing a beret, which isn't 258 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: like particularly inconspicuous in Las Vegas. He asked another sales 259 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: associate in the store to show him some pieces in 260 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 3: the case. Then two more men came in and they 261 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: stood next to this really large display case. They're admiring 262 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: an impressive piece of jewelry. Since the two saleswomen were engaged, 263 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: there was no one to help these two new guys 264 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: and no one to keep an eye on what they 265 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 3: were doing. So just a couple of minutes go by. 266 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: Then the two men left. Then the bray guye splits. Finally, 267 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: suave guy in the suit he leaves stores empty. You 268 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: know what else was empty? The case that contained the 269 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: million dollar millennium necklace. 270 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: Oh how did they get into the case so quickly? 271 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 3: They just fiddled with it? 272 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's impressive. 273 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: This the millennium necklace was called a wearrible sculpture. Oh platinum, 274 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: black coral, two thousand diamonds. Oh wow, right, and it's 275 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: just in there in this case. And so they wiggle 276 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: it opens, putting their pants and walk off thanks to 277 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: this distraction technique that they used, you know, these amorphously 278 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: European accented fellas. It's gone. So meanwhile, after the graft job, 279 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: the robberies continue. In two thousand and four, the Pink 280 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: Panthers took token. You none of the four person crew there. 281 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: There's two Serbian men. One Serbian woman and a Scottish 282 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: woman who'd been pinched for robbery and Italy. Once none 283 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: of them spoke Japanese, one of the men headed into 284 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: lesupa diamont Couture des Machi in the Ginza district district, Yeah, 285 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 3: jewelry store. So he asked to go up to the 286 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: third floor to see a particular famous necklace that they had. 287 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: He even took pictures of it. A couple of days later, 288 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: the same guy came in again, but this time he 289 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: was all loved up with the Serbian lady and they're 290 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: looking around and oh, should we get. 291 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: Something in. 292 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: And they bought a necklace and so that kind of establishes, 293 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: you know, credibility. A few days after that, the two 294 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: men return. This time they're ready. They got their wigs on. 295 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing better than a wig heist. So 296 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: they got the wigs on. They're swanming around the store. 297 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: They're like going upstairs. They even were like taking pictures 298 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: of the staff, like beautiful gray. Oh really, Oh yeah, 299 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: they're just hamming it up. So one of the men 300 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: distracted a salesman and then like socked him in the 301 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: face and pepper sprayed him. Oh and then the thief 302 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: grabbed that same particular necklace that he'd taken a photo 303 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: of before, and he made a break for it. He 304 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: and his accomplice darted out the front doors, right by 305 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 3: the Serbian woman and the inexplicable Scott, who were keeping 306 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: watch from a cafe across the street. The men had 307 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: stolen the Comtesse de vendome necklace. It had one hundred 308 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: and sixteen diamonds in it. 309 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: Who's going to count? 310 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: How much do you think this thing was worth? 311 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm forty million? 312 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty three million dollars. 313 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: I was kidding thirty to throw a darted number. 314 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: This is so much money. I can't get my head around. 315 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 316 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: It was the greatest robbery in the history of Japan. 317 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: It's the Tokyo Police. They conducted an exhaustive and precise investigation. 318 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: They made headway that the European forces hadn't been able 319 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: to accomplish, but it wasn't enough, and in the end 320 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: they they wound up not knowing more than they started with. 321 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: So they got away. 322 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally got away. Let's take a break and we 323 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: come back. I'll tell you more about this incredible crime spree. 324 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: Welcome Zarin Elizabeth, the Pink Panther Gang. 325 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 2: Yes, with the cream and the Diamond game and the 326 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: Pallises can't believe you got me on. 327 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: So the Pink Panther Gang wasn't just one outfit. It 328 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: was a network of cruise. Some law enforcement estimates put 329 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: it as eight hundred strong how is it? And others 330 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: say that there's a core group that's maybe like sixty 331 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: or so people. 332 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: Ye. 333 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: Do I think they're exaggerating the numbers to make them 334 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: sound like we need more fun. 335 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: I don't think so though, when you hear the number 336 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 3: of rests. So there are both men and women who 337 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: are part of this organization. The women have to be gorgeous, 338 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: that's their requirement. 339 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: Look like an Eastern European rule of christ. 340 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: Is And they're the ones who have to stake out 341 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: the targets. They get access and they study the store. 342 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: Okay, these kind of like as a distractionary tactic too. 343 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, because no one's you know, everyone's going to pay 344 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: attention to this beautiful woman, but not in the way 345 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 3: that they want to be. So they work with an 346 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: artist after they've been in a store, and the artist 347 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: makes a rendering of the place based on her description, 348 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 3: so she has to be super precise, has to have 349 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: an excellent memory, and. 350 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: Then I bet their accounting steps and all that stuff. 351 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 3: Everything depends on that drawing. There are some cops who 352 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: liken the pink panthers to an octopus, tentacles everywhere, but 353 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 3: that would imply like a leader ahead, someone calling the shots. 354 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: Opinions differ on this, but no one has had any 355 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: luck figuring out who is controlling this enterprise, if anyone. 356 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: Maybe more of alture than an actual. 357 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: Well know, A lot of law enforcement kind of likens 358 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: it to Al Qaeda of various cells, and that it's 359 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: very loosely kind of organized. 360 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: Reminds me of the old Hashiitians with the original assassins, 361 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: like of the man in the Mountain, Hassani Sabbah. He'd 362 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: like send people out into Europe to do stuff. Yeah, 363 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: and it's like nobody could ever find anything on them 364 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: because they were so they wouldn't talk. 365 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: And that's exactly it. None of these people ever talked. 366 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: Some said there's no top person or group giving orders. 367 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 3: Others say it's like a one particular Eastern European crime family. 368 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 2: But they're connected to andre Get the Italian Southern crime. 369 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly it. A lot of people think they're 370 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 3: connected to the Italian mafia because, after all, top Italian 371 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: mafia figures wanted by the Italian government are living out 372 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: in the open in Montene exactly. So each crew has 373 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: a transporter, someone not there at the heist, and that 374 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: person gets the diamonds across borders, generally headed to Antwerp 375 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: or Israel. 376 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: Uh huh, totally. 377 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: They know where they're taking the goods. The Pink Panthers 378 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: make about fifteen percent value of the jewelry. They're given 379 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: a fifteen percent cut. 380 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's their Essentially their market is fifty percent 381 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: on top of whatever they. 382 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: Okay, the courier takes five percent, and the big dog 383 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: is the fence. That's the guy who quote unquote legalizes 384 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: the gems, he repurposes them, puts them back in the market. 385 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: He gets about thirty to forty percent cut. 386 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: They're most likely a jeweler in either Antwerper. 387 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: Israel, and a lot of times the guys higher up 388 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: in the chain are former paramilitary under Melosovich. Oh of course, yeah, 389 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: they're murderers, yes, But however, the Pink panthers are never violent. 390 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: Most of the time. When they have guns, the guns 391 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: are fake and they've never killed anyone. 392 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 2: They sound more like the crimes of Tito's Partisans when 393 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: yugoslav when Serbia was Yugoslavia and Tito was fighting against 394 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: first the Nazis and then like you know, they would 395 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: do a lot of that type of banditree, right, bandit 396 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: tree is very much in the idea, and it. 397 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: Is in the culture where if you go in all 398 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: these different articles that I read, if you go and 399 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 3: you talk to people there, you know, there's a certain 400 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: amount of pride to it, like, yeah, steal their stuff 401 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: and bring it back here exactly. So these the street thieves, 402 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: though they were often too young to have participated in 403 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: the genocide of the you know, Muslims during the Balkan Wars. 404 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: Rumor is that a lot of them have severe drug 405 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: problems that fuel their need for cash. But they're a 406 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 3: little too organized for that either way. But the pair 407 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: of military types, they all have contacts to other shady 408 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: folks all around the globe of course, Africa where the 409 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: mines are, Belgium where the diamond brokers are. You know 410 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 3: that Kimberly diamond certification. It was you know, created to 411 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 3: prevent the movement of blood diamonds, but it actually provided 412 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: a really easy way to move hot rocks. Of course, 413 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: so these fake certificates of origin, so you just create 414 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: a brand new stone, you have the certificate, and it 415 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: just moves right along. Recutting the stones also allowed them 416 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: to eliminate the microscopic serial numbers some jewelers imprint. 417 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 2: I was wondering because I know they've been doing the 418 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: laser edging and stuff. 419 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: So if you you know, recut it off, it goes. 420 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: Dave Samuels wrote a really fantastic article in The New 421 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: Yorker about the Pink Panthers. His research was beyond extensive, 422 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: and he did a lot of really dangerous works, securing 423 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: interviews with people in Eastern Europe who had intimate knowledge 424 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: the people. Uh oh wow, Yeah, he totally does. A 425 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: Serb contact of his described the Pink Panthers as a 426 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: rather loosely organized gang with support in lots of different 427 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 3: Eastern European countries. From the article quote it's wrong to 428 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 3: speak of panthers as Serbian. He emphasized, they are the 429 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: children of a country that doesn't exist anymore. 430 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 2: Huh. It reminds me of Mere Costa Rica talking about Yugoslavis. 431 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: I'm from the country exactly. So these criminals without a home, 432 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: they just kept criming. And it wouldn't be a good 433 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 3: crime story without a good prison escape. Yeah, so I 434 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: told you about the robbery and beer. It's the one 435 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: where they painted the bench. One of the pink panthers 436 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: involved was Dragon Meekitch. Okay, Dragon d r A g 437 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: A n Dragen Meekich. He skipped out on service in 438 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: the Serbian Army in favor of criming. 439 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: Good call. 440 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: He developed into quite the criminal inclination. 441 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: It was a call he knew who he was. 442 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: He got in really good with all sorts of shady 443 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 3: organizations as he worked his way up. A month after 444 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: the beer Eats job, he drove a range rover through 445 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 3: the front window of Van Kleef and Arpels and Khan 446 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: just smash and grab. 447 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 2: I lost the summers in my eyes. 448 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: Thieves. They shoved the jewelry into golf bags and then fled. 449 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 3: They left the range rover behind, and Dragon left his 450 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: DNA behind range rover. So a few years later he 451 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: and his crew they robbed a jewelry store in the 452 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: French Alps, as you do. They got five hundred thousand 453 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 3: dollars worth of gems and bobbles in that one. The 454 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: next day, Dragon tried to buy a train ticket to 455 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: get out of Dodge. The problem is that he tried 456 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: to pay with a five hundred year old note. That's 457 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: a big bill. It's huge, and no one really carries them. Okay, 458 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: you're buying a train ticket like. 459 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: Just you know, it just makes you stand out. 460 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like if we had five hundred dollars bills 461 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: that you're going around. 462 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: Oh, we still don't ask why we got rid of those, 463 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: like any or whatever? 464 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, AnyWho. So it's suspicious. The cops get called because 465 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 3: it's like, why are you trying to buy this like 466 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: forty euro ticket with a five hundred euro bill? 467 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah okay, and that makes a lot 468 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: more sense. 469 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 3: So the cops come. They catch him. Also with him 470 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 3: a large bag of stolen jewelry, some tear gas okay, 471 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: and a Serbian passport in someone else's name. 472 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: Maybe he was on his honeymoon, you don't know. 473 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 3: Who knows knows. But of course he didn't talk but 474 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: say a thing. He wouldn't talk really anything like how 475 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: you doing? He doesn't answer. November seventeenth, two thousand and three, 476 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 3: he was being brought back to jail after a hearing. 477 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: He pulled away from the cops escorting him, and he 478 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: ran across the road into an elementary school. Okay, one 479 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 3: of the cops responsible for his transport shot him in 480 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: the leg. So he's running that he's bleeding. He's running 481 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 3: across the yard. The kids starts screaming. 482 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: He's still running, and he went and like that's the 483 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: most serbian thing. 484 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 3: He went and hidden, hid in the bush and he 485 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: was Then they caught him because you know, you're bleeding 486 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 3: in a bush at an elementary school. Yeah, trail right, 487 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: and the kids screaming and pointing. So he gets transferred 488 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 3: to a really secure facility after that. 489 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 2: But wait, I'm over here waiting. 490 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 3: Not too long after settling into his new digs at 491 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: this secure facility, a pickup pulled up to the walls 492 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 3: of the prison. The men inside jumped out, and they 493 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: put a ladder against the wall and started climbing up. 494 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: When they got to the top of the wall, they 495 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: raised machine guns and started firing. They fired at the 496 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: watchtower damn. 497 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: So they did like military operation, but just like a ladder. 498 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So the guards are hiding in fear of 499 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: their lives. One of the guys tosses the ladder and 500 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: some wire cutters down into the yard, into the possession 501 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 3: of Dragon. 502 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: Nice. 503 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: Dragon uses the wirecutters to sele through the barbed wire 504 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: and the ladder to make it to the top of 505 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: the wall, slips right down the original ladder scurries to freedom. 506 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: He's never been caught. I'm still out there. 507 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: It keeps saying, one of my best friends is Serbian. 508 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: This is some of the most serbian stuff I've heard. Like, 509 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: this has got. 510 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: Yes. So the crew they just keep striking right, one 511 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: jewel job after another. In two thousand and five, they 512 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 3: showed up in Santrope. They were there with the Band 513 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 3: of Solet for the Santrope pan So they put on 514 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: what sounded like Hawaiian shirts. Okay, every news article so 515 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 3: there's big flowery shirts, so whatever, we'll say Hawaiian. 516 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: Shirts, like Aloha shirts, Hawaiian shirts and not like. 517 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: I just imagine them in like Magnum p I costumes 518 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 3: and just all greased up with bandasole and these Hawaiian 519 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: shirts and short shirts and like deck shoes. That's in 520 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: my mind. 521 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 2: I like that good picture. 522 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 3: And so they barge into this jewelry store right in 523 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 3: the middle of the day. How did they escape? 524 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: They probably had everyone to acted by all that thiemet 525 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: on display. 526 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: They did it in like such a magnum p i way. 527 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: They escaped in a waiting speedboat. Yeah, well it's it's 528 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: the best image. It's also right out of To Catch 529 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: a Thief. Yeah, so it's more cinematic imagery. In two 530 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 3: thousand and seven, they hit Dubai. 531 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's brazen. 532 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 3: They stole two audies. 533 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: I'll shoot you there. 534 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they got to work. They drove to Waffi City, 535 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: which is this really opulent Egyptian themed mall. It has 536 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty high end shops. It's connected to 537 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 3: a five star hotel. 538 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: Wow, it's connected to an airport. 539 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: Lots of columns in stone, and. 540 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: A lot of cheesecake factory. 541 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: It was ten at night when they decided to just 542 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 3: floor it and they rammed the front doors of the mall. 543 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: We just drove into the mall, drove right into the 544 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: mall like the Blues Brothers just completely. 545 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: Yes, they were two audis, a black one and a 546 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: white one. People were still shopping when this happened. 547 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: Amazing. This is like a thirteen year old meek a 548 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: design crime. 549 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: It's totally like a grand theft auto. 550 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, video games like this, Guys. 551 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: The first car backs in like hits it rear ended. 552 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: The second one is following going forward. Yeah. So the 553 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: first car smashes through and then it keeps going and 554 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: it rams the front of a jewelry store. What jewelry store? 555 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: The Graph store again is just getting hit worked once before? 556 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: Why they got good stuff. 557 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 3: So I met a couple once who stopped at every 558 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 3: cracker barrel they'd see, and they were keeping track, hoping 559 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 3: one day to eat at all of them. I had 560 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: a c I've had cracker barrel once and it was 561 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: one too many times. But this is kind of like that. 562 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: With Graph. They're just hitting all the Graphs around the 563 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: world and making at the glove box they have a 564 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: little notepad check do buy check next. So Graph the 565 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: crew jumped out of the Audies ran into Graph. They 566 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: had hammers, fake guns, they weren't packing real weapon choice. 567 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: They smashed the display cases and they shoved all the 568 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: pieces into duffel bags. Just as quickly as they'd arrived. 569 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: They were gone with three point four million dollars in jewelry. 570 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: This is like if Fast and the Furious decided to 571 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: do crime instead of trying to stop crime. Is that 572 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: what happens in those They do crimes to stop crimes. 573 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: It's a whole thing. 574 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 3: Okay, anyway, three point four million dollars in jewelry. There's 575 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 3: security footage of this all over YouTube. 576 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 2: You can watch the whole thing. 577 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: They left, Yeah, yeah, they left. They drove off on 578 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 3: Zaabiel Road, ditch the cars, which they set on fire. 579 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: Good good move always. 580 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: But the fire didn't do the job. They thought it 581 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: was Dubai. Police were able to recover DNA in one 582 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: of the oudies. 583 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: Wow, the fire really didn't do the job. 584 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: They arrested four of the criminals and accomplices. I think 585 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: the reporting is so fuzzy on this. It's not easy 586 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: to track who gets busted where and when. And sometimes 587 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: they identify people, but they can't catch them about. 588 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: Theyre using fake names. Sometimes they're not always the same completely. 589 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got all sorts of crazy passports. We've heard 590 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: about graft getting it. But another luminary of the jewelry 591 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: world they got it hit too. 592 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: Zarin what LVM or whatever? 593 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 3: Zarin? What closure? Oh yes, I want you to picture it. 594 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: It's October six, two thousand and seven. You work as 595 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: a manager at the Harry Winston store in Paris. Harry 596 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: Winston was a jeweler called the King of Diamonds. He 597 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: was the gem broker for the wealthy. He started in 598 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: the nineteen twenties buying up the estates of socialites. He 599 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 3: would redesign the pieces into more modern styles, which showed 600 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: off his skill at jewelry design. He built himself into 601 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: a brand and was known for the finest pieces. He 602 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: actually owned the Hope Diamond for a while, and he 603 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: donated it to the Smithsonian in nineteen fifty eight. Look 604 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: at him, there it goes today. His jewels are particular 605 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: favorites on the red carpet, and the store in Paris 606 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 3: is impressive. Doesn't have display cases on the main floor, 607 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: that would be gosh. They have little lounge areas where 608 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: customers sit while the jewels are brought to them, and 609 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: this allow for tighter security. It's covered with CCTV like 610 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: a Vegas casino. There are microphones everywhere. When sales associates 611 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: hand someone apiece or take it from the case, they 612 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: very subtly state what they're doing. Would monsieur like to 613 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: see this necklace, gigontique? I just took it from the 614 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: display case in the cornell. I like to refer to 615 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: this item as four seven eight fe D, but others 616 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: call it the Star of Pawnee, gifted to the King 617 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 3: of America by Little Sebastian in eighteen seventy two. So 618 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: there you are, Zarin. You're just arriving at work. 619 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: I'm my job. 620 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: The streets of Paris are just waking up. People ride 621 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: by on bikes, probably with bagattes. A man strolls by playing. 622 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: An accordion ah. 623 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: Parisians shuffle along, faces to the sun, cigarettes in hand. 624 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: The security guard opens up the shop and lets you 625 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 3: and your coworkers in. You are ready to sell incredibly 626 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: priced gems to the rich and famous. What you don't 627 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: know was that four members of the Pink Panthers were 628 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 3: already inside. You settle in at your desk, rousing your 629 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: computer screen awake, only to see the solitaire game you'd 630 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: left open the night before. The sales staff wipe down 631 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: the display cases and adjust a necklace or bracelet here 632 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: and there. Suddenly you hear a commotion from upstairs. You 633 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: hear the import export director scream. You leap to your feet. 634 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 3: As you rush up the stairs, you're greeted by four 635 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: large men, all with their faces and heads covered. They 636 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: shove you towards the safe and tell you to open it. 637 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: One has a gun to your head. You can't focus, 638 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: You're a mess. Zarin numbers. 639 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: I don't know numbers. 640 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: So they call your assistant. She opens the safe. 641 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. 642 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: The men clear it out and they head for the 643 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: display cases. With incredible quickness, they scoop up valuable pieces 644 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: shove them into bags. One of the burglars yells to 645 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: the rest that they're out of time, so they snatch 646 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: the security videotapes, douse you and the rest of the staff. 647 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: You tear gas and take off out the back door. 648 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: Tear gas, tear gas. In all, they stole four hundred 649 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: and eighty pieces worth thirty six million dollars. 650 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: They're very good at their job. 651 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: None of it has ever been recovered. Thirty six million. 652 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: Attorney General Pascal Furet was quoted in Vanity Fair as 653 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: saying of the heist quote Harry Winston was what we 654 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: call a coupe des clap, a stunning coup, very rare, 655 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 3: said Fulet, his right eye closing for a few beats, 656 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 3: A high spectrum armed robbery that could only been executed 657 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: by serious individuals that quote the top of the heap, 658 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: as your Sinatra would say of grand banditry. 659 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if I like better? Is the Sinatra 660 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: analogy of like a Sinatra comparison exactly, or like the 661 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: fact he's got one eye blinking with truth. 662 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: So we have this devastating robbery at Harry Winston that 663 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: it could only get worse. Oh yeah, when we come 664 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 3: back from this. 665 00:32:49,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: Break, I'll tell you all about it. 666 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: What's ups Aaron, No, not much as it's sitting here 667 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: during the break. And I had a question though, because 668 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this all during those delicious commercials 669 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: So good. You said they got thirty six million jewelry, 670 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: and you said that they had the fences like in 671 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 2: Antwerp and in Israel. But is that, like, how do 672 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: you get that? What do you do with that thirty 673 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: six million dollar? Julie? Once you've walked out of the store. 674 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: Right. 675 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So they tell I'm not asking this because I 676 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: plan to do anything. I'm just asking theoretically. 677 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 3: I'm assuming I'm curious. They take the gems, they hand 678 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: them off to the courier. The courier gets them across 679 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: the border and gets them, let's say, to Antwerp and Antwerp. 680 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: It's divided up most likely between a couple of these fences. 681 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 3: They recut the gems, they re they melt down the 682 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 3: gold or the platinum and they kind of reconfigure it 683 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: into new pieces. 684 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: So they kind of do it Harry Winston did with 685 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: the old. 686 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: Jewels precisely, precisely, and then off it goes around the world. 687 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 3: There actually there was one stone that was traced around. 688 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: They had like figured out where it was stolen by 689 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 3: the pink panthers and bounced around the globe, and the 690 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: last place that was known to be was on the 691 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 3: finger of Vladimir Putin's galpal. 692 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: That's fun. 693 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's super fun. 694 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: And it landed on the finger of Vladimir PuO. 695 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 3: So October sixth, two thousand and seven, the pink Panthers, 696 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 3: they stole thirty six million in jewels from the Harry 697 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: Winston store in Paris. You remember that you were there. 698 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: Sarin, I'm still shaking. 699 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, December fourth, two thousand and eight. So oh, you know, 700 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: a little more than a year later, they struck again, 701 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: this time also in Paris, this time also at the 702 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 3: Harry Winston store. 703 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 2: Like you guys had good stuff, like. 704 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 3: It worked the first time. So it's after five o'clock. 705 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 3: Four dudes, big old serbs, walking down the street. They're 706 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: pulling a suitcase behind in them like a little roller suitcase, 707 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 3: like they're a flight attendant. They're dresses women, I should 708 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: add that in oh okay, and not convincingly, so like 709 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: they have really long blonde wigs and spike heels on, so. 710 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: Like when like when detectives on TV, or are they 711 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: gonna have to like walk in the park as a 712 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: woman so they can get like attacked by the questions, 713 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: look like. 714 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: It's Jerry in Drag Jerry or back and drag. Okay, 715 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: so they're not convincing. They walk by the Cartier store. 716 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: A salesperson there looks out and is like those are 717 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 3: some suspicious characters, and watches as they go towards Harry Winston. 718 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: Someone at the Louis Vuitton store also saw them and 719 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 3: thought theyir a big body and crazy get ups were 720 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: a little out of place, so they told security and 721 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 3: then everyone's kind of watching as they they go up 722 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 3: to the Harry Winston door and you have to get 723 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 3: buzzed in. They get buzzed in, They're like, well, they 724 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: must must have been vetted, and they go the vetting 725 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: process at Harry Winston was basically glancing at him and 726 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 3: then buzzing him in. 727 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: I was wondering, do you. 728 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: Think they'd be a little more security minded with their 729 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: history like Vitan over there doing the all see something, 730 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 3: say something, not in free wheeling Harry Winston. Maybe they're 731 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: just trying to be more accommodating and non judgmental. 732 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's probably why. 733 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: Well that's probably not. Uh so whatever. Last time the 734 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 3: thieves were hiding inside the store. This time they're coming 735 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 3: in through the front door during business hours. They're welcomed 736 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: in and taking upstairs, but halfway up the stairs they strike. 737 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 3: They whip out guns, they pull out a hand grenade, 738 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 3: and they're yelling in these really thick slavic accents, nobody 739 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 3: move or I will smoke you all. And then like 740 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 3: a seventies cartoon hippie hanging on the corner, says cool man, 741 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 3: Like they have cartoons, they're living cartoons living. You have 742 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: no idea how the rich lives. 743 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: No, I really don't. I hear things. I hear things. 744 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 3: And so they start plundering the store. They popped open 745 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 3: that roller bag and started just filling it with goods. Weirdly, 746 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 3: they knew all the employees' names and home addresses. They're like, 747 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 3: you there a Tienn who lives at three ninety eight 748 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 3: Rue Barney Miller Kill on the floor. And weirdly, they 749 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 3: also knew that there was a secret compartment in the safe. 750 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: That has to be so unnerving for the employees. 751 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: Maybe terrifying. They knew about the secret compartment in the safe, 752 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: and they also knew that the secret compartment held a 753 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 3: piece that was delivered the day before. Wow, it was 754 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 3: a thirty one carrot diamond ring. 755 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 2: So did they mic the place when they went through 756 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: the first day? 757 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: Shall see? So this ring eight million dollars. It was 758 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: called Legros Pierre, the big Stone, the Big Peter, Big Peter, Yes, 759 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: big gross Peter. They grabbed it up, okay, you know, 760 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: just like stuck it. 761 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: They got their hands on the big pan and got the. 762 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 3: Big Peter and I'm shoving it down my pants. In 763 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 3: twenty minutes, they grabbed over four hundred pieces. Wow, worth 764 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 3: seventy three point three million dollars. 765 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: You know what, I'm trying to get their dam in 766 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 2: the wrong business, like stop. 767 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: Seventy three point three million dollars. 768 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 2: That's multiple lifetimes of money for most people I know. 769 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: And they're like, I have a lot of problems here. 770 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: I have a problem with the fact that there's like 771 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 3: seventy three point three million dollars worth of jewels in 772 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: this store. 773 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 2: Store, Like anyway, you need to practice being rich. You're 774 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 2: having a lot of shock at some of the most 775 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: entry level things. And I'm behind you, I admit, But so. 776 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 3: Four hundred pieces then they're gone. This was to be 777 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 3: known as La case des the break In of the Century. 778 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 3: As the French police and Lloyd's of London the underwriter, 779 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 3: they were following all leads. They put ads in everyday 780 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 3: papers in the immigrant suburbs, and they offered a one 781 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 3: million dollar reward. 782 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: So they're just basically fishing for snitches pretty much. 783 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 3: And they started getting tips. Well, they got crazy ones. 784 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, blah blah blah. A lot of them, My brother Steve. 785 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 3: I don't like the looks of them. A lot of 786 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 3: the more garbage, but a couple panned out. Their investigation 787 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 3: highlighted a real problem for Harry Winston. That security guard, 788 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 3: the one who let the guys in Dragon Yeah, Malud jinad. 789 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Malud Malud. 790 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 3: He wasn't in the store for the first robbery, but 791 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: he'd been the one to lock up the night before. 792 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 3: Oh coincidence when the team that's when they came in, right. 793 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 3: They had CCTV footage of him strolling around the store 794 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 3: during the second hit while his coworkers were tied up. 795 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: So he's the only one who's not. 796 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,359 Speaker 3: Only one not tied up. And Malud had been living 797 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 3: it up since the robbery. He and his girlfriend they 798 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: took this expensive seaside vacation. They paid in cash all 799 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 3: my dude, Malud and the police were able to connect 800 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 3: the security guard with another guy, who then connected to 801 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: another guy who connected to the heist team. Okay, members 802 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: of the crew had been taking really pricey vacations themselves, 803 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 3: like twelve thousand euro trips. They were leasing supercars with 804 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 3: cash deposits. 805 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: De Niro and goodfellows would be pissed. 806 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, In all, eight people were arrested and tried 807 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 3: for the robbery. The supposed ring leader did do ya 808 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 3: yawee mm hmm. He claimed that he was just a 809 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 3: good between with the Pink Panther who was the brains 810 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 3: of the operation. But when they raided his place they 811 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 3: found a good number of the pieces from the second 812 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 3: Harry Winston heist. 813 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:08,919 Speaker 2: I'm just lucky that way. 814 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 3: They found eight hundred thousand euros and a Yugoslavian RBM 815 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 3: eighty rocket launcher. 816 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 817 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 3: You know what else? They found the big Peter oh 818 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 3: rest Pierre Where Peter right there? It was hidden in 819 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 3: a jar of face cream. 820 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I like a good callback. 821 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 3: A good callback. Of course. This was in no way 822 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 3: the end for the Pink Panthers. 823 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 2: No rocking. 824 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 825 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 3: August two thousand and nine, they hit the Graft store 826 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 3: in London again. 827 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 2: Gotta go back with your hits play the favorites. 828 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: Forty three pieces worth forty million pounds were taken. This 829 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 3: is the money. 830 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: This just digger around. Yeah, I mean it's like you 831 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 2: can't really comprehend. 832 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 3: And how like how did they get insured? Again? That's 833 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 3: my question. Anyway, everything was eventually recovered and two people 834 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 3: were arrested for that one. In twenty eighteen, they hit 835 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 3: the Doge's Palace in Venice, Italy. 836 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 2: Wow. 837 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 3: Christie's was having an exhibition called Treasures of the Moughles 838 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 3: and Maharages. 839 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of sapphires and rubies. 840 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. They took two million dollars in gems that belonged 841 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 3: to a member of the Katari royal family. Yeah, stones 842 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 3: on them. Yeah, that's high. That same year, they stole 843 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 3: gems belonging to the Swedish monarchy from a cathedral. 844 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: So they're just like hitting up the royalists. 845 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, they took an elaborate tiara from a 846 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 3: British manor house. 847 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 2: Like who has jewels? 848 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. In June of twenty twenty two, 849 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 3: they broke into a Dutch art fair and tried to 850 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 3: steal a diamond and sapphire earring set worth more than 851 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 3: ten million dollars. 852 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: Were they just walking by and sow it and got excited? 853 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 2: I guess what's going on? 854 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 3: Grad They were unsuccessful and they fled the scene, but 855 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 3: they were captured by police. I feel like they're getting 856 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: sloppier over time. 857 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 2: It feels like it's impromptu. I was joking before, but 858 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 2: it does feel like. 859 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: Well, and I think as they get further and further 860 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: away from the horrors of the Balkan Wars, they get softer. 861 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 3: Oh you know, and I don't I think that at 862 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: this point we're twenty years out. 863 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so now you have a different culture. Never exactly. Yeah, 864 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: and they're starting to rest on their laurels. 865 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 3: They're getting successful, right, Well, hundreds have been arrested since 866 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 3: two thousand and one. Hundreds. There are always hundreds more 867 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 3: to take their place. That's why the eight hundred figure. 868 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: Doesn't they hiring? 869 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 3: Can I send Yeah, send them a they want a 870 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 3: head shot, I'll. 871 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: Give them Mercedes to help me with the Serbian come on. 872 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 3: In his article in The New Yorker, David Samuel spoke 873 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 3: with one of the founding members of the Pink Panthers, 874 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 3: Pavel Punch Stana Morovitch. Punch Morovich, Punch Morovich, Oh. 875 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: Punch Stana Morovitch. Okay, but his nickname is Punch. 876 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, because he was a safe breaker, not because he 877 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 3: punched people. But he would like he used that cattle 878 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 3: thing Yeah, him in the head. 879 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 2: And the cattle. 880 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: What's the movie? 881 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 2: Uh, no Country for old Man. 882 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, the friend O Rod, Friend Rod, he used that 883 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 3: to break the safe. So he called himself a gem 884 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 3: heist mastermind, and he said he was tired and willing 885 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: to talk with a friend though, Rod. 886 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 2: Can I bring my friend? 887 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 3: This is what he said quote, there's no head, there's 888 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 3: no end, there's no tail, there's no beginning. You're talking 889 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: to the it. You're talking to the highest of the highest. 890 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 3: You're talking to Oz, the man behind the mirror. It's me, 891 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 3: he says. What I did, I was the best. 892 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, Punch, Punch. 893 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 3: So there is a quote for him that really stood 894 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 3: out to me though, all right, hit me with it. 895 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 3: The truth is, says Punch, some Pink Panther members don't 896 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 3: even know they're in the Pink Panthers. Isn't that incredible? 897 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 3: You think I'm on this local team. Oh guess who 898 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 3: you're working for? 899 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 2: I got someday for your son. 900 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 3: If there's a serb on your team, Yeah, you're working 901 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 3: for So what's your ridiculous takeaway? 902 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 2: Apparently I've been working for the Pink Panthers because I 903 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 2: was working work with this I did, and he was 904 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 2: very successful. We were very successful. I'm thinking I might 905 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: have been helping them. 906 00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 3: It could be. 907 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 2: So I'm really stokedn't even know I was a member 908 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: of organized crime. Put them look at me. You learn 909 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 2: something new every day? What about you? 910 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 3: Organized painting crime? 911 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 2: Exactly? 912 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 3: That's it. My takeaway is, I can't get my head 913 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 3: around these numbers. 914 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right there with you. 915 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 3: Thirty million, seventy four million, Like this is ridiculous. 916 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 2: I mean, like one of my Bobby Benia's agent, like 917 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 2: working on a contract, who comes up with these numbers. 918 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 3: Ah. I want that money, but I don't want to 919 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 3: do the crime. That's it. That's all I have. 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